<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>dfxm12</author><text>&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;the real harm here will not be to Uber,&amp;quot; Uber said. &amp;quot;It is the drivers who cannot work...&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The city&amp;#x27;s researchers found that drivers made an average of about $9.73 per hour.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;For reference, Seattle minimum wage is $16.39&amp;#x2F;hr. This appeal to employment is disconcerting, as ride sharing apps are doing their workers no favors by paying them so poorly (including the lack of benefits).&lt;p&gt;When talking about jobs, especially in the US where so many benefits are tied to employment, a job with pay so low and no benefits should not be considered a good thing.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Seattle approves minimum wage for Uber and Lyft drivers</title><url>https://www.cnet.com/news/seattle-approves-minimum-wage-for-uber-and-lyft-drivers/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>rattray</author><text>Some questions here about whether this means drivers will get paid for idle time. This Seattle Times article has clearer wording on this:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; The legislation will set new per-mile and per-minute rates for drivers while they’re transporting passengers, meant to be high enough to also account for expenses and downtime.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; To guarantee the minimum wage, the new rules will use a combination of per-minute and per-mile pay rates, divided by what’s known as a “utilization rate.” That figure is based on the share of drivers’ time spent with passengers in the car, rather than waiting for a ride.&lt;p&gt;Other specifics include $29.90&amp;#x2F;hr gross hourly pay while driving (to target $16.39&amp;#x2F;hr total), $5 per-trip minimum.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.seattletimes.com&amp;#x2F;seattle-news&amp;#x2F;transportation&amp;#x2F;seattle-to-require-minimum-wage-for-uber-and-lyft-drivers&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.seattletimes.com&amp;#x2F;seattle-news&amp;#x2F;transportation&amp;#x2F;sea...&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Seattle approves minimum wage for Uber and Lyft drivers</title><url>https://www.cnet.com/news/seattle-approves-minimum-wage-for-uber-and-lyft-drivers/</url></story>