<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>zerkten</author><text>&amp;gt; I don&amp;#x27;t know. ...it&amp;#x27;s a bit sci-fi to add ethical instruction to AI dev. We are still way way distant from that.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t know what you mean. Can you elaborate?&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Are there ethical classes for Organic Chemistry majors? Industrial engineers? Physics?&lt;p&gt;Good question. We do have these, although the application varies. Engineering disciplines probably have this more explicitly embedded from direct ethics-type classes through to insertion of failure case studies and the like. These degrees tend to align with specific professional organisations for mechanical engineering, construction, etc. Membership of these organisations may require specific courses, but most often this is pushed down to the educational institutes. Computer Science and related areas have tended to follow this direction.&lt;p&gt;For someone studying chemistry or physics, there is less of a direct link, but it&amp;#x27;s somewhat unusual for an ethics requirement to be missing from a syllabus. Someone studying these might move into medicine, finance, or go to a startup. There is quite a spread of requirements there, and the destination generally governs the these in a more organic way. If you took this at the purest level and the chemist moved into a chemistry job at a pharma company, then membership of something like the American Chemistry Society might be expected. This bring a specific set of requirements.&lt;p&gt;In any case, it is only a certain segment of the computing world which eschews ethics and professionalism. A large segment interacts with all of these other professions which do place higher value ethics and enforce to a higher degree. Even working internationally, you&amp;#x27;ll find that yourself bound by a code of ethics in your country, but limited by law in others.</text><parent_chain><item><author>koheripbal</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t know. ...it&amp;#x27;s a bit sci-fi to add ethical instruction to AI dev.  We are still way way distant from that.&lt;p&gt;Are there ethical classes for Organic Chemistry majors?  Industrial engineers?  Physics?</text></item><item><author>zerkten</author><text>For comparison, another poster mentioned a real AI course over at &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=23322449&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=23322449&lt;/a&gt; which does include this.&lt;p&gt;There is a tendency for articles by extremely talented, highly educated, yet relatively immature people to completely over-optimize for technical depth. It&amp;#x27;s a failure with many articles that get posted here. I wonder how the author might change their article after 10 more years of experience.</text></item><item><author>numbsafari</author><text>No surprise that this doesn’t include any consideration for the profound moral, ethical, or social implications of AI and AI solutions.&lt;p&gt;Nothing about bias in models. Nothing about communication. Nothing about privacy. Nothing about security. Nothing about resiliency. Nothing about the responsibility of the individual practitioner. Nothing about the economic or ecological impact of the work.&lt;p&gt;Every undergraduate degree should include both general, and subject specific courses on ethics, morals, social, economic and ecological impacts.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>A complete 4-year course plan for an AI undergraduate degree</title><url>https://www.mihaileric.com/posts/complete-artificial-intelligence-undergraduate-course-plan/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>n_o_u</author><text>&amp;gt; Are there ethical classes for Organic Chemistry majors? Industrial engineers? Physics?&lt;p&gt;Yes, yes there are.</text><parent_chain><item><author>koheripbal</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t know. ...it&amp;#x27;s a bit sci-fi to add ethical instruction to AI dev.  We are still way way distant from that.&lt;p&gt;Are there ethical classes for Organic Chemistry majors?  Industrial engineers?  Physics?</text></item><item><author>zerkten</author><text>For comparison, another poster mentioned a real AI course over at &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=23322449&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=23322449&lt;/a&gt; which does include this.&lt;p&gt;There is a tendency for articles by extremely talented, highly educated, yet relatively immature people to completely over-optimize for technical depth. It&amp;#x27;s a failure with many articles that get posted here. I wonder how the author might change their article after 10 more years of experience.</text></item><item><author>numbsafari</author><text>No surprise that this doesn’t include any consideration for the profound moral, ethical, or social implications of AI and AI solutions.&lt;p&gt;Nothing about bias in models. Nothing about communication. Nothing about privacy. Nothing about security. Nothing about resiliency. Nothing about the responsibility of the individual practitioner. Nothing about the economic or ecological impact of the work.&lt;p&gt;Every undergraduate degree should include both general, and subject specific courses on ethics, morals, social, economic and ecological impacts.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>A complete 4-year course plan for an AI undergraduate degree</title><url>https://www.mihaileric.com/posts/complete-artificial-intelligence-undergraduate-course-plan/</url></story>