<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>mlinhares</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s 100% NOT how to enter an Ivy League college, there&amp;#x27;s a lot of preparation, planning and &amp;quot;tips and tricks&amp;quot; you get by hiring people specialized in &amp;quot;college applications&amp;quot; to get there. The odds you&amp;#x27;ll get to an Ivy League college without help from college admission consultants and careful planning is pretty close to 0.</text><parent_chain><item><author>throwawayadvsec</author><text>The US are a younger country and it&amp;#x27;s full of immigrants&amp;#x2F;children of immigrants.&lt;p&gt;Most of the money here is old money. There are dozens of implicit rules. In France having a teacher as a parent is a better indicator of whether you&amp;#x27;ll get into a top school than being rich. Because you have to know all the tricks in the book to get anywhere. From my POV getting into Ivy League seems as simple as getting a high SAT, applying, getting approved for a loan. In France, most immigrants kids don&amp;#x27;t even know the possible paths to get into a top school.&lt;p&gt;Also yes, salary plays a big role, if you&amp;#x27;re part of the top 1% of your country intellectual elite, I&amp;#x27;d bet you&amp;#x27;d rather cross an ocean for 6 figures than for 2000 euros a month and free healthcare.</text></item><item><author>FirmwareBurner</author><text>The wiki does a bad job of clarifying what the relationship is (wth does &amp;quot;first cousin once removed&amp;quot; even mean?). Here&amp;#x27;s a family tree:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.tomshardware.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;jensen-huang-and-lisa-su-family-tree-shows-how-closely-they-are-related&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.tomshardware.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;jensen-huang-and-lisa-su-f...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Still, I always loved how immigrants to the US always ended up in high level positions, starting or leading top US companies, something that never&amp;#x2F;rarely happens here in Europe where maintaining the status quo and the &amp;quot;natural order&amp;quot; gets priority at all cost.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO</title><url>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Su</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>dragonwriter</author><text>&amp;gt; From my POV getting into Ivy League seems as simple as getting a high SAT, applying, getting approved for a loan.&lt;p&gt;Your POV is simply, factually, wrong; more people get high SATs and apply to the Ivy League schools than they can admit by a wide margin, and there are a lot of tricks (many of which leverage accidents of birth, wealth, and social circle) beyond that which go to getting to the top of the list.&lt;p&gt;The bigger ones involve the hyper rich buying buildings, and the merely very rich engaging in bribery which is higher risk when discovered, but legacies, padding applications with extracurrriculars for which opportunities are very much not equal, etc., all play a role.</text><parent_chain><item><author>throwawayadvsec</author><text>The US are a younger country and it&amp;#x27;s full of immigrants&amp;#x2F;children of immigrants.&lt;p&gt;Most of the money here is old money. There are dozens of implicit rules. In France having a teacher as a parent is a better indicator of whether you&amp;#x27;ll get into a top school than being rich. Because you have to know all the tricks in the book to get anywhere. From my POV getting into Ivy League seems as simple as getting a high SAT, applying, getting approved for a loan. In France, most immigrants kids don&amp;#x27;t even know the possible paths to get into a top school.&lt;p&gt;Also yes, salary plays a big role, if you&amp;#x27;re part of the top 1% of your country intellectual elite, I&amp;#x27;d bet you&amp;#x27;d rather cross an ocean for 6 figures than for 2000 euros a month and free healthcare.</text></item><item><author>FirmwareBurner</author><text>The wiki does a bad job of clarifying what the relationship is (wth does &amp;quot;first cousin once removed&amp;quot; even mean?). Here&amp;#x27;s a family tree:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.tomshardware.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;jensen-huang-and-lisa-su-family-tree-shows-how-closely-they-are-related&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.tomshardware.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;jensen-huang-and-lisa-su-f...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Still, I always loved how immigrants to the US always ended up in high level positions, starting or leading top US companies, something that never&amp;#x2F;rarely happens here in Europe where maintaining the status quo and the &amp;quot;natural order&amp;quot; gets priority at all cost.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO</title><url>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Su</url></story>