<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>ch4s3</author><text>You could make a compelling argument that no one with any real power would care about the reefs if they weren&amp;#x27;t regularly visited by relatively wealthy tourists that have at least some connection to those in power and the broader public. Yellowstone wouldn&amp;#x27;t exist without people like John Muir. Travel helps people connect with the physical world and the people who inhabit physically and culturally remote places.</text><parent_chain><item><author>RRL</author><text>Ref final note:&lt;p&gt;Exactly.  I have quite a few friends who regularly fly&amp;#x2F;travel to these scenic ocean&amp;#x2F;river systems, but will absolve themselves of concern because they&amp;#x27;re using some &amp;#x27;reef safe&amp;#x27; sunscreen when they dip in to the water.  Greenhouse gas emissions are always someone else&amp;#x27;s fault.  Industry, diesel trucks, etc etc.&lt;p&gt;They&amp;#x27;re also the same folks that attack Airbnb and gentrification at home,  but are the first to jump on to the Airbnb moneyed expat lifestyle when traveling.&lt;p&gt;At this point, it&amp;#x27;s not even worth the time to debate.</text></item><item><author>belval</author><text>The comments here seems to be missing the point, yes the article is not technically clickbait, but it also explicitly mentions that while oxybenzone causes bleaching, it is not responsible for THE coral bleaching that we are seeing in most reefs around the world.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; The study lacks “ecological realism”, agrees Terry Hughes, a marine biologist at James Cook University in Townsville, Australia. Coral-bleaching events on Australia’s Great Barrier Reef, for example, have been linked more closely to trends in water temperature than to shifts in tourist activity. “Mass bleaching happens regardless of where the tourists are,” Hughes says. “Even the most remote, most pristine reefs are bleaching because water temperatures are killing them.”&lt;p&gt;And this gem as a final note:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Hughes emphasizes that the greatest threats to reefs remain rising temperatures, coastal pollution and overfishing. Changing sunscreens might not do much to protect coral reefs, Hughes says. “It’s ironic that people will change their sunscreens and fly from New York to Miami to go to the beach,” he says. “Most tourists are happy to use a different brand of sunscreen, but not to fly less and reduce carbon emissions.”</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>A common sunscreen ingredient turns toxic in the sea – anemones suggest why</title><url>https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01271-4</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>jstanley</author><text>&amp;gt; the same folks that attack Airbnb and gentrification at home, but are the first to jump on to the Airbnb moneyed expat lifestyle when traveling.&lt;p&gt;Are you sure they&amp;#x27;re the same people?&lt;p&gt;It is a classic mistake to lump everyone you&amp;#x27;ve ever disagreed with into a single group and then lampoon the group for its contradictions.</text><parent_chain><item><author>RRL</author><text>Ref final note:&lt;p&gt;Exactly.  I have quite a few friends who regularly fly&amp;#x2F;travel to these scenic ocean&amp;#x2F;river systems, but will absolve themselves of concern because they&amp;#x27;re using some &amp;#x27;reef safe&amp;#x27; sunscreen when they dip in to the water.  Greenhouse gas emissions are always someone else&amp;#x27;s fault.  Industry, diesel trucks, etc etc.&lt;p&gt;They&amp;#x27;re also the same folks that attack Airbnb and gentrification at home,  but are the first to jump on to the Airbnb moneyed expat lifestyle when traveling.&lt;p&gt;At this point, it&amp;#x27;s not even worth the time to debate.</text></item><item><author>belval</author><text>The comments here seems to be missing the point, yes the article is not technically clickbait, but it also explicitly mentions that while oxybenzone causes bleaching, it is not responsible for THE coral bleaching that we are seeing in most reefs around the world.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; The study lacks “ecological realism”, agrees Terry Hughes, a marine biologist at James Cook University in Townsville, Australia. Coral-bleaching events on Australia’s Great Barrier Reef, for example, have been linked more closely to trends in water temperature than to shifts in tourist activity. “Mass bleaching happens regardless of where the tourists are,” Hughes says. “Even the most remote, most pristine reefs are bleaching because water temperatures are killing them.”&lt;p&gt;And this gem as a final note:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Hughes emphasizes that the greatest threats to reefs remain rising temperatures, coastal pollution and overfishing. Changing sunscreens might not do much to protect coral reefs, Hughes says. “It’s ironic that people will change their sunscreens and fly from New York to Miami to go to the beach,” he says. “Most tourists are happy to use a different brand of sunscreen, but not to fly less and reduce carbon emissions.”</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>A common sunscreen ingredient turns toxic in the sea – anemones suggest why</title><url>https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01271-4</url></story>