<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>deogeo</author><text>According to this quora answer [1] that quotes a whole bunch of court cases, the whole &amp;#x27;privilege, not a right&amp;#x27; thing is bullshit.&lt;p&gt;Try taking it to the logical conclusion - what else is a privilege, and can therefore be arbitrarily denied? A bank account? Traveling by plane or train? Connecting your house to the power&amp;#x2F;water&amp;#x2F;sewage grid? Having a post address? Buying or renting a house? Sending your children to school? If you buy this logic, there&amp;#x27;s a whole bunch of &amp;#x27;privileges&amp;#x27; that the state can deny you using some excuse, that would make living utterly impossible.&lt;p&gt;That the state takes away this right doesn&amp;#x27;t mean you should call it a privilege, just as you wouldn&amp;#x27;t call freedom a privilege because an innocent man was jailed.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.quora.com&amp;#x2F;Who-determined-that-driving-is-a-privilege-not-a-right-and-from-whom-does-that-privilege-originate#&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.quora.com&amp;#x2F;Who-determined-that-driving-is-a-privi...&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain><item><author>massivecali</author><text>As I&amp;#x27;ve been reminded countless times, &amp;quot;driving is a privilege not a right&amp;quot;. You can lose your license for all kinds of &amp;#x27;unfair&amp;#x27; reasons that do not make sense, and I agree it&amp;#x27;s heavy handed to include student loan debt, but until it is Federally acknowledged that all citizens have a right to drive (after passing proper license tests), then this downward progression will continue.&lt;p&gt;In California you can&amp;#x27;t even register your vehicle if you&amp;#x27;re behind on your child support payments. (I need my job to make payments. I can&amp;#x27;t get to my job without my car.)</text></item><item><author>AmVess</author><text>USA is heading down this road, too. 21 states will suspend your driver&amp;#x27;s license if you fall behind on student debt. This is ass backwards and destructive thinking. I am certain this is just the start of greater restrictions on the unfortunate.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Life on the wrong side of China’s social credit system</title><url>https://www.inkstonenews.com/china/chinas-13-million-discredited-individuals-face-discrimination-thanks-social-credit-system/article/3003319</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>ordu</author><text>&lt;i&gt;&amp;gt; As I&amp;#x27;ve been reminded countless times, &amp;quot;driving is a privilege not a right&amp;quot;.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;In a country made for a car drivers it seems like a kind of an essential privilege.</text><parent_chain><item><author>massivecali</author><text>As I&amp;#x27;ve been reminded countless times, &amp;quot;driving is a privilege not a right&amp;quot;. You can lose your license for all kinds of &amp;#x27;unfair&amp;#x27; reasons that do not make sense, and I agree it&amp;#x27;s heavy handed to include student loan debt, but until it is Federally acknowledged that all citizens have a right to drive (after passing proper license tests), then this downward progression will continue.&lt;p&gt;In California you can&amp;#x27;t even register your vehicle if you&amp;#x27;re behind on your child support payments. (I need my job to make payments. I can&amp;#x27;t get to my job without my car.)</text></item><item><author>AmVess</author><text>USA is heading down this road, too. 21 states will suspend your driver&amp;#x27;s license if you fall behind on student debt. This is ass backwards and destructive thinking. I am certain this is just the start of greater restrictions on the unfortunate.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Life on the wrong side of China’s social credit system</title><url>https://www.inkstonenews.com/china/chinas-13-million-discredited-individuals-face-discrimination-thanks-social-credit-system/article/3003319</url></story>