<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>ugh</author><text>If Carrier IQ on iOS only collects information about calls and location data during those calls and if it is turned off by default and if Apple is explicit about the data they collect† then there is no problem.&lt;p&gt;It seems obvious to me that carriers or manufacturers can collect that data if the user explicitly agrees to it (by actually flipping a switch without being forced or tricked into doing so).&lt;p&gt;Carrier IQ is only a problem if it is turned on by default and if it collects more data than is explicitly said∆.&lt;p&gt;—&lt;p&gt;† If the Diagnostics &amp;#38; Usage switch indeed controls Carrier IQ then we already know that the last two conditions are met.&lt;p&gt;∆ This is only the minimum viable evilness. Worse kinds of evil are imaginable, like not telling users anywhere that data is being or collected or making it hard for users to turn the collection of data off.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Apple: We Don’t Use Carrier IQ… In Most Of Our Products… Anymore.</title><url>http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/01/apple-we-dont-use-carrier-iq-in-most-of-our-products-anymore/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>franksalim</author><text>I&apos;m surprised the author didn&apos;t jump on this sentence:&lt;p&gt;&quot;With any diagnostic data sent to Apple, customers must actively opt-in to share this information...&quot;&lt;p&gt;As I understand it, Carrier IQ is about sending data to carriers. Apple only denied that data was silently sent to Apple. That&apos;s completely different than saying no data has been transmitted at all.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Apple: We Don’t Use Carrier IQ… In Most Of Our Products… Anymore.</title><url>http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/01/apple-we-dont-use-carrier-iq-in-most-of-our-products-anymore/</url></story>