<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>arianvanp</author><text>How? you make claims that seem to have no substance. What extra vector does Passkeys add for tracking? I don&amp;#x27;t see any.&lt;p&gt;Passkeys are an origin-bound login mechanism. Worst case is that somebody places a first-party cookie to keep you logged in after you authenticated with a passkey. which they and will already do today without your consent or without logging in.   (First-party session cookies don&amp;#x27;t even need a cookie wall. They&amp;#x27;re considered &amp;quot;necessary&amp;quot; processing)</text><parent_chain><item><author>vouaobrasil</author><text>So far, no one has commented on this large downside of passkeys: that it will promote the ease of sites to require login since it&amp;#x27;s much easier to generate a passkey than to remember a new password or even store it.&lt;p&gt;Thus, passkeys lubricate the path towards an ever-increasing login-based society where it becomes much easier to track and monitor your online behaviour. Although it has the benefit of making our existing lives easier by removing the need to remember our banking passwords, it also will bring us further into the realm of technology by making more and more services log-in based.&lt;p&gt;A greater ease of making a log-in based service means more revenue, more profit for Apple, and a greater integration of technology into our lives. Few people realize this because we have been conditioned to believe that new technology is solely for our benefit.&lt;p&gt;In reality, Apple is not concerned with our benefit. They are concerned with profit and making technology more efficient to accomplish that end. So although passkeys might seem nice, there is a serious downside to this technology.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Passkeys now support external providers</title><url>https://developer.apple.com/passkeys/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>RcouF1uZ4gsC</author><text>&amp;gt; So far, no one has commented on this large downside of passkeys: that it will promote the ease of sites to require login since it&amp;#x27;s much easier to generate a passkey than to remember a new password or even store it.&lt;p&gt;Actually, this ease of use may be beneficial to privacy. Sites don’t need user generated&amp;#x2F;remembered passwords to require a login, they can just use the sign in with Google&amp;#x2F;Facebook&amp;#x2F;Apple buttons. Because it is easier than remembering another password, users will typically use those options. Passkeys is more private than signing in with Google&amp;#x2F;Facebook&amp;#x2F;Apple, while also providing more privacy than those options.</text><parent_chain><item><author>vouaobrasil</author><text>So far, no one has commented on this large downside of passkeys: that it will promote the ease of sites to require login since it&amp;#x27;s much easier to generate a passkey than to remember a new password or even store it.&lt;p&gt;Thus, passkeys lubricate the path towards an ever-increasing login-based society where it becomes much easier to track and monitor your online behaviour. Although it has the benefit of making our existing lives easier by removing the need to remember our banking passwords, it also will bring us further into the realm of technology by making more and more services log-in based.&lt;p&gt;A greater ease of making a log-in based service means more revenue, more profit for Apple, and a greater integration of technology into our lives. Few people realize this because we have been conditioned to believe that new technology is solely for our benefit.&lt;p&gt;In reality, Apple is not concerned with our benefit. They are concerned with profit and making technology more efficient to accomplish that end. So although passkeys might seem nice, there is a serious downside to this technology.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Passkeys now support external providers</title><url>https://developer.apple.com/passkeys/</url></story>