<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>KirinDave</author><text>The knock against this this is that it&amp;#x27;s a very clickbaity title. If it&amp;#x27;s true, it&amp;#x27;s a big deal, but the title made it to be a BIGGER deal by implying it&amp;#x27;s all sales. Which would be huge, but also absurd.&lt;p&gt;The idea that Surface is selling well should be taken away even if the article is clickbaity. By all accounts, MS is hitting supply walls with Skylake before they meet demand or cross some sort of arbitrary sales goal they want to maintain [0]. They&amp;#x27;re sold out everywhere and backordered on the SP4 and SB. I&amp;#x27;m glad I pre-ordered!&lt;p&gt;And the MS devkit? It&amp;#x27;s.. um.. I mean I know that people will be shocked to hear it but it&amp;#x27;s not only really damn good these days, but it&amp;#x27;s open source. Look at how you do Async programming on Windows Phone with C# or JavaScript, and what kinda performance gains you get. Check out the MS GitHub and see how much of themselves they&amp;#x27;ve put out there and opened to the community.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s a big deal. I&amp;#x27;m actually enthusiastic to join their dev community.&lt;p&gt;[0]: &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;wccftech.com&amp;#x2F;intel-skylake-core-i5-i7-processors-global-shortage&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;wccftech.com&amp;#x2F;intel-skylake-core-i5-i7-processors-glob...&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.pcr-online.biz&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;read&amp;#x2F;there-will-be-a-major-shortage-of-skylake-cpus-until-end-of-november&amp;#x2F;036847&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.pcr-online.biz&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;read&amp;#x2F;there-will-be-a-major-sh...&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.winbeta.org&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;rumor-surface-book-surface-pro-4-shipments-delayed-due-intel-skylake-shortages&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.winbeta.org&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;rumor-surface-book-surface-pro-4...&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain><item><author>dangoor</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve seen others knock down this report already, but I&amp;#x27;m having trouble finding a link. What those other articles noted is that this is US-only, online-only sales (and I believe from people who opted in to provide this data). Apple sells a lot of iPads at their own stores, and certainly outside of the US.&lt;p&gt;Ahh, here&amp;#x27;s one of the sites that did a take down of this report:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.thurrott.com&amp;#x2F;mobile&amp;#x2F;ios&amp;#x2F;62854&amp;#x2F;so-did-surface-really-outsell-ipad-in-october&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.thurrott.com&amp;#x2F;mobile&amp;#x2F;ios&amp;#x2F;62854&amp;#x2F;so-did-surface-rea...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Report: Microsoft the top-selling tablet maker based on online sales in October</title><url>http://www.techtimes.com/articles/114316/20151209/microsoft-surface-overtakes-apple-s-ipad-as-top-selling-tablet-online.htm</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>sergers</author><text>i wouldnt really call that a take down&amp;#x2F;knock down in your terms.&lt;p&gt;-noone else claims to have seen this early release of this report to be able to refute the data.+&lt;p&gt;-yes this is US online shopping only data anyalysis, this outlined in the original article giving background on 1010data that this article references[0]&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.winbeta.org&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;microsoft-beats-apple-online-tablet-sales&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.winbeta.org&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;microsoft-beats-apple-online-tab...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;it is based on data provided to 1010data from consumers as well as data analysis from the &amp;quot;top 100&amp;quot; online sellers.&lt;p&gt;the biggest online seller for ipads i assume is the Apple store, which probably isnt aggregating data to 3rd parties.&lt;p&gt;i wouldnt be suprised though if Surface+Windows 10 tablets (xiaomi mi pad 2) start to dominate the market.&lt;p&gt;most people i know who own a ipad, nearly everyone owns one, isnt looking to replace their ipads with the newer versions.
if its working, no major features&amp;#x2F;changes requiring an upgrade to a newer ipad.&lt;p&gt;everyone looking to get a new device is looking at the surface&amp;#x2F;windows 10 as a new tablet and even a laptop replacement.</text><parent_chain><item><author>dangoor</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve seen others knock down this report already, but I&amp;#x27;m having trouble finding a link. What those other articles noted is that this is US-only, online-only sales (and I believe from people who opted in to provide this data). Apple sells a lot of iPads at their own stores, and certainly outside of the US.&lt;p&gt;Ahh, here&amp;#x27;s one of the sites that did a take down of this report:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.thurrott.com&amp;#x2F;mobile&amp;#x2F;ios&amp;#x2F;62854&amp;#x2F;so-did-surface-really-outsell-ipad-in-october&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.thurrott.com&amp;#x2F;mobile&amp;#x2F;ios&amp;#x2F;62854&amp;#x2F;so-did-surface-rea...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Report: Microsoft the top-selling tablet maker based on online sales in October</title><url>http://www.techtimes.com/articles/114316/20151209/microsoft-surface-overtakes-apple-s-ipad-as-top-selling-tablet-online.htm</url></story>