<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>austincheney</author><text>I try to look for primary intent. If somebody is advocating awareness of something worthy of their passion I can empathize with that advocacy even during times I may disagree with the subject advocated. I find it harder to empathize with people who are stealing designer handbags and claiming it’s a form of protest. I just see self enrichment (theft) as the primary motive and then a lie as a qualifier. To me that results in a difference compared to the prior described advocacy group that I cannot shake.</text><parent_chain><item><author>snowwrestler</author><text>I think there are two ways to approach thinking about dramatic acts like self-immolation, rioting, looting, stealing, etc.&lt;p&gt;One way is to think &amp;quot;wow, those people have had very different experiences from me, to drive them to do that.&amp;quot; I&amp;#x27;d put your reply in that category and I prefer this. It recognizes shared commonality among people, which is a good place to start for constructive change.&lt;p&gt;The other way is to think &amp;quot;wow, those people are nothing like me, to want to do something like that.&amp;quot; This treats differences as inherent and implies there are different &amp;quot;types&amp;quot; of people. It creates a sense of &amp;quot;us vs them,&amp;quot; which makes it harder to build the empathy necessary for constructive change.</text></item><item><author>Aloha</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve always looked at it this way &amp;quot;things must be pretty bad if lighting yourself on fire sounds like a better alternative then living&amp;quot; I dont need to understand the particulars beyond that.</text></item><item><author>austincheney</author><text>Having lived for some time in a third world country that has real poverty and real day to day security worries, situations like this spring to mind when people completely without optics compare their situations to those in developing nations. Yes, as insanely ignorant as that sounds it happens. People here on HN last week, as one example, were trying to compare their experiences recently protesting to the Arab Spring. People in the Arab Spring were lighting themselves on fire and protesting everyday longer than most of us have been locked down from COVID. Not the same, not even in the same universe.&lt;p&gt;The same absurd comparisons also come up when entitled people people try to talk about poverty when it’s clear they have never seen poverty in the US, much less in an economy where people earn less than $5 per day working 5x harder.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Pepsi’s $32B Typo Caused Deadly Riots</title><url>https://medium.com/better-marketing/pepsis-40-billion-typo-caused-deadly-riots-3d671295d1bd</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>nate_meurer</author><text>I really agree with you here, except for your inclusion of looters in that group.  You&amp;#x27;re goddamn right opportunistic looters are nothing like me.  Those fuckers care nothing about the fight of the protests, and are willing to tarnish the whole movement for some free shit.  Fuck them.&lt;p&gt;Otherwise, right on.  I can&amp;#x27;t tell you how often I come to dead ends in arguments regarding poverty and crime, where folks who&amp;#x27;ve never been poor or desperate give themselves 100% of the credit for their good fortune.  Like they picked their fucking parents before birth.</text><parent_chain><item><author>snowwrestler</author><text>I think there are two ways to approach thinking about dramatic acts like self-immolation, rioting, looting, stealing, etc.&lt;p&gt;One way is to think &amp;quot;wow, those people have had very different experiences from me, to drive them to do that.&amp;quot; I&amp;#x27;d put your reply in that category and I prefer this. It recognizes shared commonality among people, which is a good place to start for constructive change.&lt;p&gt;The other way is to think &amp;quot;wow, those people are nothing like me, to want to do something like that.&amp;quot; This treats differences as inherent and implies there are different &amp;quot;types&amp;quot; of people. It creates a sense of &amp;quot;us vs them,&amp;quot; which makes it harder to build the empathy necessary for constructive change.</text></item><item><author>Aloha</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve always looked at it this way &amp;quot;things must be pretty bad if lighting yourself on fire sounds like a better alternative then living&amp;quot; I dont need to understand the particulars beyond that.</text></item><item><author>austincheney</author><text>Having lived for some time in a third world country that has real poverty and real day to day security worries, situations like this spring to mind when people completely without optics compare their situations to those in developing nations. Yes, as insanely ignorant as that sounds it happens. People here on HN last week, as one example, were trying to compare their experiences recently protesting to the Arab Spring. People in the Arab Spring were lighting themselves on fire and protesting everyday longer than most of us have been locked down from COVID. Not the same, not even in the same universe.&lt;p&gt;The same absurd comparisons also come up when entitled people people try to talk about poverty when it’s clear they have never seen poverty in the US, much less in an economy where people earn less than $5 per day working 5x harder.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Pepsi’s $32B Typo Caused Deadly Riots</title><url>https://medium.com/better-marketing/pepsis-40-billion-typo-caused-deadly-riots-3d671295d1bd</url></story>