<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>retromario</author><text>What about the 4 examples of other electric semis shared at the end of the original thread?&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;TOrynski&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1600970796159336449&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;TOrynski&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1600970796159336449&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain><item><author>themagician</author><text>In an ideal environment the operating cost of a Tesla Semi is about 1&amp;#x2F;3rd (conservative estimate) that of a diesel.&lt;p&gt;That environment is, again, very specific. But if your routes are short and predictable, you have massive warehouse space for solar, and you can get your average electricity cost as low as Tesla can then it pays off. 1 million miles in a diesel is going to cost well over $1 million dollars (including the price of the cab). With a Tesla Semi that cost is at least half… IF you can get the electricity cost low enough.</text></item><item><author>another_devy</author><text>Even in this case what advantage it has over existing electric trucks which don’t have these design flaws?</text></item><item><author>themagician</author><text>Most of the criticism assumes people will be in these cabs for 8 hours at a time.  They won&amp;#x27;t. This is for very short trips. We are talking 80-100 mi each way. 2-3 hrs in each direction, max. It&amp;#x27;s not for independent truckers.</text></item><item><author>elijaht</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t see how that is relevant. Nearly all of the criticisms posed (maybe not the snow one?) would still be relevant to a driver in the situation you describe. This has nothing to do with range or even the fact that it&amp;#x27;s electric</text></item><item><author>themagician</author><text>Tesla knows all this.&lt;p&gt;This truck is for a very specific niche: owned fleets near two warehouses or within a 500 mile round trip from a major port. Basically: all the warehouses in the Inland Empire near LAX and Long Beach and the warehouses in the Newark area that service the NYC metro area. It has the potential to dramatically reduce costs for some routes&amp;#x2F;corridors.&lt;p&gt;It will be a big hit in these areas. It will have a large impact on a very specific niche. There&amp;#x27;s nothing wrong with that. These aren&amp;#x27;t going to be used by independent truckers. It&amp;#x27;s not for them. It&amp;#x27;s for drivers making the same 80-100 mile or so trip from port to warehouse every day.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>The Tesla Semi cab from the practical POV of someone who drives trucks</title><url>https://twitter.com/torynski/status/1600968583055826944</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>Chirono</author><text>Yes there are:
&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.volvotrucks.com&amp;#x2F;en-en&amp;#x2F;trucks&amp;#x2F;alternative-fuels&amp;#x2F;electric-trucks.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.volvotrucks.com&amp;#x2F;en-en&amp;#x2F;trucks&amp;#x2F;alternative-fuels&amp;#x2F;e...&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain><item><author>themagician</author><text>In an ideal environment the operating cost of a Tesla Semi is about 1&amp;#x2F;3rd (conservative estimate) that of a diesel.&lt;p&gt;That environment is, again, very specific. But if your routes are short and predictable, you have massive warehouse space for solar, and you can get your average electricity cost as low as Tesla can then it pays off. 1 million miles in a diesel is going to cost well over $1 million dollars (including the price of the cab). With a Tesla Semi that cost is at least half… IF you can get the electricity cost low enough.</text></item><item><author>another_devy</author><text>Even in this case what advantage it has over existing electric trucks which don’t have these design flaws?</text></item><item><author>themagician</author><text>Most of the criticism assumes people will be in these cabs for 8 hours at a time.  They won&amp;#x27;t. This is for very short trips. We are talking 80-100 mi each way. 2-3 hrs in each direction, max. It&amp;#x27;s not for independent truckers.</text></item><item><author>elijaht</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t see how that is relevant. Nearly all of the criticisms posed (maybe not the snow one?) would still be relevant to a driver in the situation you describe. This has nothing to do with range or even the fact that it&amp;#x27;s electric</text></item><item><author>themagician</author><text>Tesla knows all this.&lt;p&gt;This truck is for a very specific niche: owned fleets near two warehouses or within a 500 mile round trip from a major port. Basically: all the warehouses in the Inland Empire near LAX and Long Beach and the warehouses in the Newark area that service the NYC metro area. It has the potential to dramatically reduce costs for some routes&amp;#x2F;corridors.&lt;p&gt;It will be a big hit in these areas. It will have a large impact on a very specific niche. There&amp;#x27;s nothing wrong with that. These aren&amp;#x27;t going to be used by independent truckers. It&amp;#x27;s not for them. It&amp;#x27;s for drivers making the same 80-100 mile or so trip from port to warehouse every day.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>The Tesla Semi cab from the practical POV of someone who drives trucks</title><url>https://twitter.com/torynski/status/1600968583055826944</url></story>