<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>junto</author><text>Do you really believe that we didn&amp;#x27;t torture or enemies during WWII. History is written by the victors.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Allied_war_crimes_during_World_War_II&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Allied_war_crimes_during_Wor...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Similarly, we often believe that it was only the Soviets that took part in the rape of German women after the third Reich fell in 1945, but there are lots of evidence to suggest that all the allied forces participated.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Rape_during_the_occupation_o...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m not trying to take away the fact that the Axis forces were vicious and committed war crimes, but we have to remember that war is horrendous and has unforeseeable and negative long-term human outcomes. I wish our countries thought a bit more about this before they rush us all into such decisions using lies and deceit.</text><parent_chain><item><author>LordKano</author><text>The idea that you cede the moral high ground when you use torture seems to have been forgotten.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t care if it works. I grew up believing that we were &amp;quot;The Good Guys&amp;quot; and under no circumstance is it ever acceptable for the good guys to torture people.&lt;p&gt;What made the Viet Cong so bad? They tortured people.
What made the Japanese so bad? They tortured people.
What made the Germans so bad? They tortured people.&lt;p&gt;We should never torture anyone.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Why Torture Doesn&apos;t Work: The Neuroscience of Interrogation</title><url>http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v527/n7576/full/527035a.html</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>cm2187</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s not a matter of moral high ground. Carpet bombing cities to weaken the morale of the ennemy would have been treated as a war crime should the allies have lost WW2. It was deleberately killing civilians. The Good Guys is usually defined as &amp;quot;our own side&amp;quot;. Even today, if you place a bomb under a car it is terrorism, but if the bomb is delivered by a drone, then it&amp;#x27;s all OK...</text><parent_chain><item><author>LordKano</author><text>The idea that you cede the moral high ground when you use torture seems to have been forgotten.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t care if it works. I grew up believing that we were &amp;quot;The Good Guys&amp;quot; and under no circumstance is it ever acceptable for the good guys to torture people.&lt;p&gt;What made the Viet Cong so bad? They tortured people.
What made the Japanese so bad? They tortured people.
What made the Germans so bad? They tortured people.&lt;p&gt;We should never torture anyone.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Why Torture Doesn&apos;t Work: The Neuroscience of Interrogation</title><url>http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v527/n7576/full/527035a.html</url></story>