<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>kbuck</author><text>In California (and most places I&amp;#x27;ve lived), this is actually legal. To complete the turn, you first enter the intersection while the light is green, then wait for traffic to clear. If it only clears after the light turns red, you&amp;#x27;re still in the right - because only when you fully entered the intersection (on the green light) is considered. See here: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;patch.com&amp;#x2F;california&amp;#x2F;sanbruno&amp;#x2F;ask-a-cop-should-i-pull-halfway-into-an-intersection-while-waiting-for-oncoming-traffic-to-pass_2c7b8d8a&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;patch.com&amp;#x2F;california&amp;#x2F;sanbruno&amp;#x2F;ask-a-cop-should-i-pul...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Of course, this only allows one car (or maybe two, if the intersection is particularly large) per light cycle, which isn&amp;#x27;t much. People who enter the intersection on the yellow or red light (tailing the person who was in the intersection waiting to turn left) are turning illegally.</text><parent_chain><item><author>kosmet</author><text>I&amp;#x27;d be impressed if I see a self-driving car making a left turn in a crowded junction without a specific left-turn signal at LA. The only way to turn left in such roads is to make an illegal turn after the signal just becomes red. I wonder how the self-driving car would do in such a situation.</text></item><item><author>walrus01</author><text>Canadian perspective: This is very clear. Much more challenging is something like a multi-lane highway where the road markings have completely disappeared under snow. I&amp;#x27;ll be impressed when it can drive from Hope into the BC interior in winter in conditions that a human driver can handle with winter tires and possibly studs, but no need for chains.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;search?client=ubuntu&amp;amp;channel=fs&amp;amp;q=coquihalla+highway&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;search?client=ubuntu&amp;amp;channel=fs&amp;amp;q=coq...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>ocdtrekkie</author><text>If anyone was going to focus on making sure their self-driving car could drive in snow, it&amp;#x27;d be the Russians.&lt;p&gt;Mind you, self-driving when snow has coated all your landmarks is definitely impressive, but the title made me think it&amp;#x27;d be driving &lt;i&gt;in snow&lt;/i&gt;. Which it isn&amp;#x27;t. The roads are, what we&amp;#x27;d call in Chicago, &amp;quot;clear&amp;quot;. The car is not driving in&amp;#x2F;on snow or ice in this scenario, which is something I do regularly every winter.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Self-driving car on Moscow streets after snowfall [video]</title><url>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx08yRsR9ow</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>sidyom</author><text>Ideally, isn&amp;#x27;t the point to have only autonomous vehicles and these situations become obsolete?</text><parent_chain><item><author>kosmet</author><text>I&amp;#x27;d be impressed if I see a self-driving car making a left turn in a crowded junction without a specific left-turn signal at LA. The only way to turn left in such roads is to make an illegal turn after the signal just becomes red. I wonder how the self-driving car would do in such a situation.</text></item><item><author>walrus01</author><text>Canadian perspective: This is very clear. Much more challenging is something like a multi-lane highway where the road markings have completely disappeared under snow. I&amp;#x27;ll be impressed when it can drive from Hope into the BC interior in winter in conditions that a human driver can handle with winter tires and possibly studs, but no need for chains.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;search?client=ubuntu&amp;amp;channel=fs&amp;amp;q=coquihalla+highway&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;search?client=ubuntu&amp;amp;channel=fs&amp;amp;q=coq...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>ocdtrekkie</author><text>If anyone was going to focus on making sure their self-driving car could drive in snow, it&amp;#x27;d be the Russians.&lt;p&gt;Mind you, self-driving when snow has coated all your landmarks is definitely impressive, but the title made me think it&amp;#x27;d be driving &lt;i&gt;in snow&lt;/i&gt;. Which it isn&amp;#x27;t. The roads are, what we&amp;#x27;d call in Chicago, &amp;quot;clear&amp;quot;. The car is not driving in&amp;#x2F;on snow or ice in this scenario, which is something I do regularly every winter.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Self-driving car on Moscow streets after snowfall [video]</title><url>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx08yRsR9ow</url></story>