<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>pvnick</author><text>When protests don&amp;#x27;t work in democratic nations it&amp;#x27;s because defeatist attitudes keep people home. You know what they say, if you don&amp;#x27;t try then you&amp;#x27;ve already lost.&lt;p&gt;As it stands right now this may be our best shot. Y&amp;#x27;know... that and sitting around bitching about it on the internet.</text><parent_chain><item><author>ck2</author><text>Yeah protests - just like with civil rights, it only took 50 years to end Jim Crow laws which were incredibly outrageous and it looks like it&amp;#x27;s going to be 50 years since Stonewall before gay people can finally be treated like human beings and marry across (most) states.&lt;p&gt;So in 50 years they will suddenly agree that maybe the TSA and the NSA are a step too far.</text></item><item><author>pvnick</author><text>Join us on July 4th for a nationwide demonstration! &lt;a href=&quot;http://restorethe4th.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;restorethe4th.net&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>ck2</author><text>Has anyone else become seriously depressed over all this?&lt;p&gt;I mean the TSA was one thing, they are still horrible but I never fly or take a bus or train, I just hate the idea of them existing.&lt;p&gt;But since the NSA exposure, I just feel seriously depressed about the state of who is running this country and the &amp;quot;just try to stop us&amp;quot; thug mentality. It&amp;#x27;s a weight on my mind constantly this past month.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>The NSA Can&apos;t Tell the Difference Between an American and a Foreigner</title><url>http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/06/27/the_nsa_cant_tell_the_difference_between_an_american_and_a_foreigner?page=0,0</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>shaggyfrog</author><text>This sounds like a red herring to me. Why did you just stop at 50 years? Why not go all the way back to the first recorded instance of slavery? That would make your argument even stronger.&lt;p&gt;Fact is that the reversal of anti-GBLT laws accelerated immensely in the last few years -- maybe even just the last decade. We&amp;#x27;re not talking 50-year scales for major societal changes anymore.</text><parent_chain><item><author>ck2</author><text>Yeah protests - just like with civil rights, it only took 50 years to end Jim Crow laws which were incredibly outrageous and it looks like it&amp;#x27;s going to be 50 years since Stonewall before gay people can finally be treated like human beings and marry across (most) states.&lt;p&gt;So in 50 years they will suddenly agree that maybe the TSA and the NSA are a step too far.</text></item><item><author>pvnick</author><text>Join us on July 4th for a nationwide demonstration! &lt;a href=&quot;http://restorethe4th.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;restorethe4th.net&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>ck2</author><text>Has anyone else become seriously depressed over all this?&lt;p&gt;I mean the TSA was one thing, they are still horrible but I never fly or take a bus or train, I just hate the idea of them existing.&lt;p&gt;But since the NSA exposure, I just feel seriously depressed about the state of who is running this country and the &amp;quot;just try to stop us&amp;quot; thug mentality. It&amp;#x27;s a weight on my mind constantly this past month.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>The NSA Can&apos;t Tell the Difference Between an American and a Foreigner</title><url>http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/06/27/the_nsa_cant_tell_the_difference_between_an_american_and_a_foreigner?page=0,0</url></story>