<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>yurisagalov</author><text>I actually don&apos;t think that&apos;s strictly true. Although there might be a stigma associated with calling yourself an Engineer if you didn&apos;t go through an Engineering program, it is only illegal to call yourself a &lt;i&gt;Professional Engineer&lt;/i&gt; if you&apos;re not properly licensed.&lt;p&gt;Graduating from an Engineering degree (and/or receiving an Iron Ring) has no real legal protection or obligation. The licensing requirements to become a Professional Engineer (or P. Eng) are as follows:&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;  * Graduate with a degree from an accredited program in engineering or applied science, accredited by the Canadian Engineering Accreditation Board (CEAB).
  * Complete an Engineer in Training or &quot;Engineering Internship&quot; program under the direction of a P.Eng. (This is a minimum four-year program with the exception of Quebec)
  * Review of work experience by the Association,
  * Pass a Professional Practice Exam(content and format of which differs by province).
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
source: &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_and_licensure_in_engineering#Canada&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_and_licensure_in_en...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;edit: based on the &quot;Title Usage: Canada&quot; section in the same article, it does look like there were lawsuits and attempts to try and restrict the usage of the word Engineer, but it seems results were mixed at best, and vary widely from province to province, so I&apos;ll stand by my point that the only actual protected term is &lt;i&gt;Professional Engineer&lt;/i&gt;</text><parent_chain><item><author>johlindenbaum</author><text>Sort of relevant: In Canada the word &quot;Engineer&quot; is protected. While I am a Computer Scientist, I can not call myself a Software Engineer (or any form of Engineer), unlike in the US. In Canada you must have graduated from an Engineering College of a University to use the title.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Iron Ring</title><url>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Ring</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>binarymax</author><text>I was at a networking event once, and handed a gentleman my business card.  My title listed on the card was &apos;Software Architect&apos;.  He himself was an actual Architect (who designs physical structures), and he became upset and claimed I had absolutely no right to that title.  I had never given it much thought until that point, but some folks are very protective over that sort of thing.</text><parent_chain><item><author>johlindenbaum</author><text>Sort of relevant: In Canada the word &quot;Engineer&quot; is protected. While I am a Computer Scientist, I can not call myself a Software Engineer (or any form of Engineer), unlike in the US. In Canada you must have graduated from an Engineering College of a University to use the title.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Iron Ring</title><url>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Ring</url></story>