<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>markkanof</author><text>Those things are already illegal and SOPA doesn&apos;t address them anyway.  I think the important point is that the internet should not be restricted in an attempt to preempt any criminal activity (because it won&apos;t work).  Instead, the internet should be left alone, and those who choose to do illegal things on the internet should be prosecuted.</text><parent_chain><item><author>maximusprime</author><text>So if a company starts infringing trademarks, polluting search engines en masse, tricking people into buying their rubbish, phishing their details, getting credit card details etc, you&apos;d be fine with that?&lt;p&gt;What about people who DDoS attack you? Is that fine? No need to have any recourse there?&lt;p&gt;How about those that hack DNS to dupe people into visiting their site etc&lt;p&gt;Those are all &quot;Open Internet&quot;, but they&apos;re also not very nice.&lt;p&gt;I don&apos;t think it&apos;s as clear cut as some make it.&lt;p&gt;I don&apos;t know if SOPA gets it right or wrong, or if the current laws are sufficient, but I&apos;m glad we have some of those laws in place to make the internet a slightly nicer place.</text></item><item><author>praptak</author><text>&amp;#62; you can&apos;t reasonably support an &quot;open internet&quot; in all instances. There have to be some exceptions.&lt;p&gt;Why? I am fine with the internet not blocking anything at all, even though I accept limits on free speech.&lt;p&gt;To drag the &quot;speech&quot; analogy further, I can shout whatever I want and I&apos;m ok with the fact that in some cases this can bring consequences.</text></item><item><author>maximusprime</author><text>What does &quot;Open Internet&quot; mean though?&lt;p&gt;You can&apos;t reasonably support free speech in all instances, just like you can&apos;t reasonably support an &quot;open internet&quot; in all instances. There have to be some exceptions.&lt;p&gt;It&apos;s the listing of those exceptions and how you deal with them that&apos;s the tricky bit. So saying &quot;I support an open internet&quot; is just ignoring the issue.</text></item><item><author>freejack</author><text>This blog post from their lead lobbyist defending their support is absolutely grating.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudysyndrome.com/2011/10/28/online-copyright-laws-wont-prevent-a-flourishing-internet.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://rudysyndrome.com/2011/10/28/online-copyright-laws-won...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;Most of what we are seeing is either 1) rhetoric, 2) regurgitated lobbying spin, 3) criticism of language we have already fixed, or 4) retweets by people who like to steal music and buy fake, but cheap, goods.&quot;&lt;p&gt;Ugh.&lt;p&gt;(oBDisclaimer: I work for a registrar that unequivocally supports the Open Internet.&quot;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes &quot;Move your Domain Day&quot;</title><url>http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/nmnie/godaddy_supports_sopa_im_transferring_51_domains/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>Ein2015</author><text>&quot;So if a company starts infringing trademarks, polluting search engines en masse, tricking people into buying their rubbish&quot;&lt;p&gt;eBay? also, already illegal based on trademarks, copyright, etc etc.&lt;p&gt;&quot;What about people who DDoS attack you? Is that fine? No need to have any recourse there?&quot; &quot;How about those that hack DNS to dupe people into visiting their site etc&quot;&lt;p&gt;already illegal&lt;p&gt;--------------&lt;p&gt;from my understanding, SOPA is more about removing due process than making bad things illegal</text><parent_chain><item><author>maximusprime</author><text>So if a company starts infringing trademarks, polluting search engines en masse, tricking people into buying their rubbish, phishing their details, getting credit card details etc, you&apos;d be fine with that?&lt;p&gt;What about people who DDoS attack you? Is that fine? No need to have any recourse there?&lt;p&gt;How about those that hack DNS to dupe people into visiting their site etc&lt;p&gt;Those are all &quot;Open Internet&quot;, but they&apos;re also not very nice.&lt;p&gt;I don&apos;t think it&apos;s as clear cut as some make it.&lt;p&gt;I don&apos;t know if SOPA gets it right or wrong, or if the current laws are sufficient, but I&apos;m glad we have some of those laws in place to make the internet a slightly nicer place.</text></item><item><author>praptak</author><text>&amp;#62; you can&apos;t reasonably support an &quot;open internet&quot; in all instances. There have to be some exceptions.&lt;p&gt;Why? I am fine with the internet not blocking anything at all, even though I accept limits on free speech.&lt;p&gt;To drag the &quot;speech&quot; analogy further, I can shout whatever I want and I&apos;m ok with the fact that in some cases this can bring consequences.</text></item><item><author>maximusprime</author><text>What does &quot;Open Internet&quot; mean though?&lt;p&gt;You can&apos;t reasonably support free speech in all instances, just like you can&apos;t reasonably support an &quot;open internet&quot; in all instances. There have to be some exceptions.&lt;p&gt;It&apos;s the listing of those exceptions and how you deal with them that&apos;s the tricky bit. So saying &quot;I support an open internet&quot; is just ignoring the issue.</text></item><item><author>freejack</author><text>This blog post from their lead lobbyist defending their support is absolutely grating.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudysyndrome.com/2011/10/28/online-copyright-laws-wont-prevent-a-flourishing-internet.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://rudysyndrome.com/2011/10/28/online-copyright-laws-won...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;Most of what we are seeing is either 1) rhetoric, 2) regurgitated lobbying spin, 3) criticism of language we have already fixed, or 4) retweets by people who like to steal music and buy fake, but cheap, goods.&quot;&lt;p&gt;Ugh.&lt;p&gt;(oBDisclaimer: I work for a registrar that unequivocally supports the Open Internet.&quot;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes &quot;Move your Domain Day&quot;</title><url>http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/nmnie/godaddy_supports_sopa_im_transferring_51_domains/</url></story>