<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>mattnewton</author><text>As someone who left Apple for Google, I can say that Apple was even more stingy for all but the most senior levels, where they were competitive. Their TC could come close to matching Google because the stock appreciation was greater with AAPL than GOOG, but the offer letters had lower salary and usually no performance based cash bonuses when I was there.</text><parent_chain><item><author>birdyrooster</author><text>Can confirm, Google was really stingy with their RSUs compared to Apple, but the perks really aren&amp;#x27;t that good with the exception of the food, which, when speaking to current Googlers, they say the food quality has fallen precipitously. Google at the time I worked there seemed to lean heavily on its reputation to reduce total comp.</text></item><item><author>paxys</author><text>I suspect we are going to see some turmoil in the tech hiring space with stock prices taking a beating in recent months. Large companies have gotten away with paying under market price for talent because employees have seen massive gains from stock appreciation over the last decade. If total comp starts going down year over year, suddenly the more traditional, no-frills system at places like Apple, Microsoft and Amazon isn&amp;#x27;t going to look nearly as attractive, especially compared to companies one tier below that are already offering higher comp and more flexible work options.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/4/22961592/apple-april-11-return-office-corporate-pandemic-tim-cook</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>ericd</author><text>Apple’s cafe charges for food, and gives its interns very outdated machines. They’re much stingier than Google, or at least they were.</text><parent_chain><item><author>birdyrooster</author><text>Can confirm, Google was really stingy with their RSUs compared to Apple, but the perks really aren&amp;#x27;t that good with the exception of the food, which, when speaking to current Googlers, they say the food quality has fallen precipitously. Google at the time I worked there seemed to lean heavily on its reputation to reduce total comp.</text></item><item><author>paxys</author><text>I suspect we are going to see some turmoil in the tech hiring space with stock prices taking a beating in recent months. Large companies have gotten away with paying under market price for talent because employees have seen massive gains from stock appreciation over the last decade. If total comp starts going down year over year, suddenly the more traditional, no-frills system at places like Apple, Microsoft and Amazon isn&amp;#x27;t going to look nearly as attractive, especially compared to companies one tier below that are already offering higher comp and more flexible work options.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/4/22961592/apple-april-11-return-office-corporate-pandemic-tim-cook</url></story>