<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>fitzroy</author><text>No surprise since Edmunds makes money off of everyone &lt;i&gt;except&lt;/i&gt; Tesla (no advertising, no dealers, no comparison shopping that converts to lead gen).&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;How does Edmunds make money?
Edmunds sells advertising to marketers who have contextually relevant messages for site visitors. Also, car-shoppers who visit Edmunds have the opportunity to request price quotes from dealers and providers of insurance, financing and extended warranties. Edmunds is paid by the automakers, dealers and other service providers for the lead referrals.&amp;quot;
&lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.edmunds.com&amp;#x2F;about&amp;#x2F;faqs.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.edmunds.com&amp;#x2F;about&amp;#x2F;faqs.html&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain><item><author>aerovistae</author><text>I laughed out loud when I googled &amp;quot;tsla&amp;quot; after watching the video and the top headline in the news section of the google results was &amp;quot;Analyst doubts the new move by Tesla Motors.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Clicking on the article for humor&amp;#x27;s value, I continued to read:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; However, Edmunds.com, Inc. analyst Jessica Caldwell questions the value of purchasing a self-driving car before regulations catch up. Caldwell said that, meanwhile, competitors could introduce better solutions, potentially making Tesla’s hardware “obsolete almost as soon as it’s activated for prime time.”&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s just hilarious the contortions of logic people will go to in order to put Musk down.&lt;p&gt;Having the equipment ready and in action first is somehow a &lt;i&gt;disadvantage&lt;/i&gt; by this argument, and now you&amp;#x27;re better off being &lt;i&gt;later&lt;/i&gt; to market.&lt;p&gt;These same people have written that Tesla will be left in the dust as its competitors beat it to the market because it can&amp;#x27;t keep up with their manufacturing, and thus being first to market is only an advantage if you&amp;#x27;re not Tesla.&lt;p&gt;You can&amp;#x27;t win.</text></item><item><author>hipshaker</author><text>Isn&amp;#x27;t this hackernews??&lt;p&gt;So many &amp;quot;but what if this and that and this...&amp;quot; &amp;amp; &amp;quot;and yeah let&amp;#x27;s see if it can handle X &amp;amp; Y&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;This is the iPhone 1 of self-driving cars!
That&amp;#x27;s akin to saying Apple should have waited to release their phone until iPhone 7 &amp;quot;because of this &amp;amp; that &amp;amp; this...&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Don&amp;#x27;t we have to start &lt;i&gt;somewhere&lt;/i&gt;??
Aren&amp;#x27;t there supposed to be a big user base here who understands that it&amp;#x27;s an evolutionary process - we build the plane before we build the rocket before we shoot people into space?&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Oviously&lt;/i&gt; the perfect self-driving car is still some way off, but I for one am thrilled this race is on!</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware</title><url>https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-tesla-cars-being-produced-now-have-full-self-driving-hardware</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>woodpanel</author><text>&amp;gt; It&amp;#x27;s just hilarious the contortions of logic people will go to in order to put Musk down.&lt;p&gt;As much as I anticipate more cool stuff from Tesla, one could say the same about akin-ness of people to find everything that Tesla does &amp;quot;super innovative&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;revolutionary&amp;quot; while the same features already existed in other cars for quite some time.&lt;p&gt;I actually laughed out loud when I saw the Headline of this submission &amp;quot;Tesla released a video of a car driving itself&amp;quot; being the number one entry on HN - sorry but this speaks volumes about the &amp;quot;neutrality&amp;quot; of HN regarding Tesla.</text><parent_chain><item><author>aerovistae</author><text>I laughed out loud when I googled &amp;quot;tsla&amp;quot; after watching the video and the top headline in the news section of the google results was &amp;quot;Analyst doubts the new move by Tesla Motors.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Clicking on the article for humor&amp;#x27;s value, I continued to read:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; However, Edmunds.com, Inc. analyst Jessica Caldwell questions the value of purchasing a self-driving car before regulations catch up. Caldwell said that, meanwhile, competitors could introduce better solutions, potentially making Tesla’s hardware “obsolete almost as soon as it’s activated for prime time.”&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s just hilarious the contortions of logic people will go to in order to put Musk down.&lt;p&gt;Having the equipment ready and in action first is somehow a &lt;i&gt;disadvantage&lt;/i&gt; by this argument, and now you&amp;#x27;re better off being &lt;i&gt;later&lt;/i&gt; to market.&lt;p&gt;These same people have written that Tesla will be left in the dust as its competitors beat it to the market because it can&amp;#x27;t keep up with their manufacturing, and thus being first to market is only an advantage if you&amp;#x27;re not Tesla.&lt;p&gt;You can&amp;#x27;t win.</text></item><item><author>hipshaker</author><text>Isn&amp;#x27;t this hackernews??&lt;p&gt;So many &amp;quot;but what if this and that and this...&amp;quot; &amp;amp; &amp;quot;and yeah let&amp;#x27;s see if it can handle X &amp;amp; Y&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;This is the iPhone 1 of self-driving cars!
That&amp;#x27;s akin to saying Apple should have waited to release their phone until iPhone 7 &amp;quot;because of this &amp;amp; that &amp;amp; this...&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Don&amp;#x27;t we have to start &lt;i&gt;somewhere&lt;/i&gt;??
Aren&amp;#x27;t there supposed to be a big user base here who understands that it&amp;#x27;s an evolutionary process - we build the plane before we build the rocket before we shoot people into space?&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Oviously&lt;/i&gt; the perfect self-driving car is still some way off, but I for one am thrilled this race is on!</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware</title><url>https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-tesla-cars-being-produced-now-have-full-self-driving-hardware</url></story>