<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>samwillis</author><text>I find the negativity in this thread depressing.&lt;p&gt;The web stack (html&amp;#x2F;css&amp;#x2F;js&amp;#x2F;http) is one of the most impressive feats of invention by humanity. We have this one stack and toolkit that run on everything from a desktop computer down to a cheap (as little as 100$) mobile phone. It&amp;#x27;s free with no payments for access or deployment, and at the bottom end basic enough that a child can pick it up. But capable of building incredible professional experiences (see Figma or onShape, seriously they are incredible).&lt;p&gt;As a sole developer I can build something with a single code base for mobile (both web and installable), and desktop (again both web and installable). The breadth of tooling available is incredible.&lt;p&gt;The OP is about PWAbuilder, there are alternatives. I like the combination of Capacitor (from the Ionic Framework team) and Native Script. It lets you extent your installable version of the app with additional native capability, all while staying mostly in a JS environment.&lt;p&gt;The complaints about PWA being poor are, in my view, two fold. One, the support for them on iOS has be atrocious until recently, but also there are a lot of poorly written webapps. That is actually a testament to the accessibility of the platform.  Look past that and you see what it is truly capable of.&lt;p&gt;We need to stop this silly gate keeping, it&amp;#x27;s frankly ridiculous.&lt;p&gt;Edit: since I started writing the negative posts have them voted down the page. Looking more positive now.&lt;p&gt;Edit 2: While I have your attention, if you care about PWAs and consumer choice of web engines on mobile, go support the OWA (Open Web Advocacy - &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;open-web-advocacy.org&amp;#x2F;donate&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;open-web-advocacy.org&amp;#x2F;donate&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;). They are there to represent us and push for move choice and support. They are turning up and presenting the evidence needed to ensure the large players open up their platforms.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>PWAs in App Stores</title><url>https://web.dev/pwas-in-app-stores/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>yanis_t</author><text>While this is nice, to me the whole promise of PWA is that developers can escape confusing App Store rules, long approval process, and the absurd 30% commissions.&lt;p&gt;So no, thank you. I don’t want back into the App Store.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>PWAs in App Stores</title><url>https://web.dev/pwas-in-app-stores/</url></story>