<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>KingMob</author><text>When I became a monk in Burma, sayalays (sort of like female novitiates) in the monastery were expected to show respect to me, even when they had been there for 30 years, and I had only been a monk for two weeks.&lt;p&gt;A western monk friend and I discussed it a lot, and we concluded that the rules of the sangha (the monastic community) ensured it would be roughly as sexist as the society around it.&lt;p&gt;See, one of the rules of the vinaya (the ancient monastic code) is that monks are forbidden to grow their own food; all food is a gift from someone. This is an interesting rule, with both good and bad consequences.&lt;p&gt;The beneficial aspect is that it keeps the sangha tied to the lay community; it prevents Theravadan monks from disappearing into the forest with no ties, and is probably crucial to maintaining the existence of a religious order for over two millennia.&lt;p&gt;The detrimental aspect is that it punishes sanghas that are too progressive for their community. Every morning, we would walk out at 6:00 for alms. If the townfolk were pissed at us, we&amp;#x27;d have starved.&lt;p&gt;One of the things western buddhist communities have done better is gender-inclusion. In fact, most of my teachers in both zen and theravada have been women.</text><parent_chain><item><author>tombh</author><text>Glad to see this article getting some attention. My university training is in Religious Studies and it became clear pretty quickly that Buddhism suffers just as much as any other religion from the pathologies of global institutions of power.&lt;p&gt;The one that always gets me, as it&amp;#x27;s so glaringly obvious, is that Buddhism is so audaciously and unapologetically male-dominated. It just seems embarrassing to me that on the one hand the teachings place so much emphasis on kindness to all living beings, yet none of the major lineages (until recently under Western influence) have female lineage holders - therefore those that are considered worthy enough to pass the teachings on to the next generation.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Not your Tibetan Buddhism</title><url>https://aeon.co/essays/what-lies-behind-the-simplistic-image-of-the-happy-buddhist</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>gtirloni</author><text>Religion is not detached from the cultural aspects of where it exists. Such was&amp;#x2F;is the situation in Tibet, male-oriented.&lt;p&gt;The Catholic Church says priests can only be male too. Women weren&amp;#x27;t given much freedom in society when these policies were defined.&lt;p&gt;Western-adapted Buddhism lineages are much more open to women in general.</text><parent_chain><item><author>tombh</author><text>Glad to see this article getting some attention. My university training is in Religious Studies and it became clear pretty quickly that Buddhism suffers just as much as any other religion from the pathologies of global institutions of power.&lt;p&gt;The one that always gets me, as it&amp;#x27;s so glaringly obvious, is that Buddhism is so audaciously and unapologetically male-dominated. It just seems embarrassing to me that on the one hand the teachings place so much emphasis on kindness to all living beings, yet none of the major lineages (until recently under Western influence) have female lineage holders - therefore those that are considered worthy enough to pass the teachings on to the next generation.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Not your Tibetan Buddhism</title><url>https://aeon.co/essays/what-lies-behind-the-simplistic-image-of-the-happy-buddhist</url></story>