<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>debacle</author><text>A few people are making money from it, but they&amp;#x27;re content to make money. The majority of people doing homesteading are:&lt;p&gt;1. At-home farmers who are eating healthier, but paying for the privilege.&lt;p&gt;2. People who are quiet because they&amp;#x27;re actually making very good money doing what they&amp;#x27;re doing.&lt;p&gt;3. People who haven&amp;#x27;t quite grasped that permaculture and&amp;#x2F;or homesteading are still farming, and farming is still hard work despite how blog-friendly you make it.&lt;p&gt;4. People trying to sell their &amp;quot;next best thing&amp;quot; marketing to hopeful mommmy bloggers.&lt;p&gt;I am currently a #1 hoping to become a #2 eventually. Online, I predominantly follow #2s and they never try and sell me classes, PDFs, etc, because they&amp;#x27;re busy making money farming.</text><parent_chain><item><author>roboben</author><text>Most fun thing about permaculture is the fact that no one is making money from actually applying it but rather just selling courses, books and other media. It’s funny since the first thing you learn about it, is that you don’t need to spend a lot of money doing it.&lt;p&gt;Beside that, permaculture is nothing more than a framework for systems design. Can be applied to much more than your garden.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>What is permaculture? (2015)</title><url>https://www.permaculturedesignmagazine.com/what-is-permaculture</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>11235813213455</author><text>&amp;gt; no one is making money&lt;p&gt;your comment makes me think of &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=35847327&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=35847327&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Permaculture is mostly about growing food for yourself and local friends</text><parent_chain><item><author>roboben</author><text>Most fun thing about permaculture is the fact that no one is making money from actually applying it but rather just selling courses, books and other media. It’s funny since the first thing you learn about it, is that you don’t need to spend a lot of money doing it.&lt;p&gt;Beside that, permaculture is nothing more than a framework for systems design. Can be applied to much more than your garden.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>What is permaculture? (2015)</title><url>https://www.permaculturedesignmagazine.com/what-is-permaculture</url></story>