<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>alwillis</author><text>&lt;i&gt;I expect buyers of the first ARM-based Macs to end up like the buyers of the first Intel-based Macs who were saddled with Core Solo processors and 32-bit EFI.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;That’s not going to be the case this time around.&lt;p&gt;Apple has obviously been planning this transition for several years. Apple has been designing 64-bit ARM-based SoC since at least 2013—over 7 years.&lt;p&gt;Single-threaded speed surpassed Intel years ago; it&amp;#x27;s probably been a matter of getting the supporting silicon up to snuff.&lt;p&gt;I wouldn&amp;#x27;t be surprised if what we see this fall will be the 2nd or 3rd iteration of ARM-based Macs Apple has designed internally but the first to be revealed to the public.&lt;p&gt;I expect these first Apple Silicon Macs will be ridiculously fast, particularly on a performance per watt basis and even perhaps compared to similarly priced Intel hardware from brand name PC manufacturers.&lt;p&gt;Apple knows they only have one chance to make a first impression; I expect they will put a stake in the ground around that for these first consumer oriented Macs, with the promise of what&amp;#x27;s to come for Macs for pro users over the course of the two-year transition of the entire product line.</text><parent_chain><item><author>Lammy</author><text>Buy a used Intel Mac today and it will give you several more years of service while the ecosystem handles the ARM transition. You should never buy a first-gen Apple product, especially the first gen of such a radical change. I expect buyers of the first ARM-based Macs to end up like the buyers of the first Intel-based Macs who were saddled with Core Solo processors and 32-bit EFI.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Should I buy an Intel Mac today or wait to buy an Arm-based Mac?</title><url>https://www.macrumors.com/guide/buy-or-wait-intel-apple-silicon-mac/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>jurmous</author><text>But this chip will be the 14th iteration of the CPU and is already quite mature. The Apple GPU is already some years further after first release. The chip is also already 64bit. The main new thing is the Arm compilation of the OS and Rosetta layer and that can be updated with patch releases.</text><parent_chain><item><author>Lammy</author><text>Buy a used Intel Mac today and it will give you several more years of service while the ecosystem handles the ARM transition. You should never buy a first-gen Apple product, especially the first gen of such a radical change. I expect buyers of the first ARM-based Macs to end up like the buyers of the first Intel-based Macs who were saddled with Core Solo processors and 32-bit EFI.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Should I buy an Intel Mac today or wait to buy an Arm-based Mac?</title><url>https://www.macrumors.com/guide/buy-or-wait-intel-apple-silicon-mac/</url></story>