<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>gkoberger</author><text>This is a genuine question... isn&amp;#x27;t that his job?&lt;p&gt;For a public company, the CEO has to be a public CEO. Everyone takes on a different persona (some sell themselves as business geniuses, others as creative geniuses, and others as someone you wanna grab a beer with). Some really like it, and some do it begrudgingly. But at the end of the day, you can&amp;#x27;t be the same CEO of a public company as you were when you were private.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve never known Jeff to hobnob with celebrities, travel in luxury or abandon his company. I&amp;#x27;m not sure he&amp;#x27;s a &amp;quot;celebrity CEO&amp;quot; as much as he just became a public one, although I don&amp;#x27;t know him personally.&lt;p&gt;(FWIW, this is the reason I&amp;#x27;d never want to go public. I personally don&amp;#x27;t like the system, but that doesn&amp;#x27;t mean it&amp;#x27;s not how the system works.)</text><parent_chain><item><author>throwaway_108</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s also why George Hu left Twilio.&lt;p&gt;Because Jeff wanted to be a celebrity CEO, and it was to the detriment of the company.&lt;p&gt;All of Twilio&amp;#x27;s growth (as a public company) happened on George&amp;#x27;s watch.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t think it&amp;#x27;s a coincidence that well after George left, on Jeff&amp;#x27;s watch - they had to do 3 different layoff for a total of ~24% of their entire public company being let go.&lt;p&gt;Note: former senior level Twilio employee, posted anonymous for obvious reasons.</text></item><item><author>shakes</author><text>I worked at Twilio for nearly 10 years and it&amp;#x27;s hard to overstate what a gift it was to work there and see Jeff operate as CEO up-close.&lt;p&gt;He created an environment where (at our best) we could have fun doing work that had a real impact, and we could it with people we enjoyed doing the work with. He pushed us to be creative to authentically empower and inspire developers. Wanna build a video game that teaches developers how to code and use Twilio? Let&amp;#x27;s try it! Wanna build an AI application with Tony Hawk and have Tony Hawk debug the code live on stage? Sure!&lt;p&gt;And Jeff would always be spending time with developer tools and Twilio&amp;#x27;s products himself, to the point that he could live code at the drop of a hat to show off what we&amp;#x27;d been working on. This meant his own understanding of developers and their problems never ceased to amaze me.&lt;p&gt;But more than all of that, he was a rare CEO that led with empathy, humility and care.&lt;p&gt;Thank you, jeffiel. We can&amp;#x27;t wait to see what you build next.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Jeff Lawson steps down as CEO of Twilio</title><url>https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/08/twilio-ceo-lawson-steps-down-after-bruising-activist-battles.html</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>jmacd</author><text>George Hu cut his teeth under Benioff during the most meteoric rise of both Salesforce and Benioff&amp;#x27;s celebrity. I would be very surprised if Jeff&amp;#x27;s desire to be a public facing CEO would even cause George to notice, let alone bristle at.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s more likely that someone as smart as George might have just looked at the fundamentals of the business and decided it could not keep this up over the long term.&lt;p&gt;or... it might have just been epic timing too. Probably.</text><parent_chain><item><author>throwaway_108</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s also why George Hu left Twilio.&lt;p&gt;Because Jeff wanted to be a celebrity CEO, and it was to the detriment of the company.&lt;p&gt;All of Twilio&amp;#x27;s growth (as a public company) happened on George&amp;#x27;s watch.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t think it&amp;#x27;s a coincidence that well after George left, on Jeff&amp;#x27;s watch - they had to do 3 different layoff for a total of ~24% of their entire public company being let go.&lt;p&gt;Note: former senior level Twilio employee, posted anonymous for obvious reasons.</text></item><item><author>shakes</author><text>I worked at Twilio for nearly 10 years and it&amp;#x27;s hard to overstate what a gift it was to work there and see Jeff operate as CEO up-close.&lt;p&gt;He created an environment where (at our best) we could have fun doing work that had a real impact, and we could it with people we enjoyed doing the work with. He pushed us to be creative to authentically empower and inspire developers. Wanna build a video game that teaches developers how to code and use Twilio? Let&amp;#x27;s try it! Wanna build an AI application with Tony Hawk and have Tony Hawk debug the code live on stage? Sure!&lt;p&gt;And Jeff would always be spending time with developer tools and Twilio&amp;#x27;s products himself, to the point that he could live code at the drop of a hat to show off what we&amp;#x27;d been working on. This meant his own understanding of developers and their problems never ceased to amaze me.&lt;p&gt;But more than all of that, he was a rare CEO that led with empathy, humility and care.&lt;p&gt;Thank you, jeffiel. We can&amp;#x27;t wait to see what you build next.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Jeff Lawson steps down as CEO of Twilio</title><url>https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/08/twilio-ceo-lawson-steps-down-after-bruising-activist-battles.html</url></story>