<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>smartbit</author><text>Pros&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;  - free open source
  - group management can be delegated
  - works fine with mac, linux &amp;amp; windows browsers
  - maintenance free self hosted on k8s for 2 years
  - lack of mobile apps has not been issue
  - UX is ok, no complaints
  - requires little end-user support&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
Cons&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;  - only password field is encrypted
  - no warning that Notes are not encrypted 
  - promises ‘Secure files &amp;amp; notes (Coming soon)’
    for more than year
  - password generator has no complexity options
  - requires browser plugin
  - user passwords have no minimum entropy requirements
  - no helm chart, used our own
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
Experience based on free version with ~75 users. Plan to switch to paid version when &lt;i&gt;Secure files &amp;amp; notes&lt;/i&gt; become available.&lt;p&gt;Noticed that former lead developer &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;markstory&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;markstory&lt;/a&gt; now works on Sentry. Sentry has same list of &lt;i&gt;Pros&lt;/i&gt; as above: it ’&lt;i&gt;just works&lt;/i&gt;’ without maintenance or support, running self hosted on k8s for free.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Passbolt: Self hostable, open source, password manager for teams</title><url>https://www.passbolt.com</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>verandaguy</author><text>I like this a lot. I&amp;#x27;ve been a Bitwarden user for the past few months and I&amp;#x27;m not looking back, but I&amp;#x27;m so happy there&amp;#x27;s reasonable competition:&lt;p&gt;- It&amp;#x27;s still OSS, so you can self-host, which is a big selling point for me&lt;p&gt;- There&amp;#x27;s a managed&amp;#x2F;hosted option, which is a big selling point for probably &lt;i&gt;most&lt;/i&gt; users&lt;p&gt;- It&amp;#x27;s got a browser plugin à la BitWarden&amp;#x2F;1Password, which is a crucial feature for any well-polished password manager (and hopefully it also comes with Android autofill integration)&lt;p&gt;Hopefully Passbolt, BitWarden and others can keep eachother on their toes and help this be an innovative and widely accessible space!&lt;p&gt;Expanding on that last point: I&amp;#x27;m a &lt;i&gt;huge&lt;/i&gt; fan of the general idea of having the option of self-hosting with a business model revolving around a paid, managed option, for password managers or otherwise.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Passbolt: Self hostable, open source, password manager for teams</title><url>https://www.passbolt.com</url></story>