<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>moolriaz</author><text>Shocked by how misinformed people are about Mandela&amp;#x2F;Apartheid, or by the amount of trolling going on here.&lt;p&gt;Thousands of white people have not died in SA thanks to Mandela. Mandela was not a &amp;#x27;terrorist&amp;#x27;. Apartheid was BAD, and still affects the country significantly today. Here&amp;#x27;s some context for you. This all applied pre 1994&amp;#x2F;2:&lt;p&gt;I am a non white South African. The only reason I got a good education was because with the release of Nelson Mandela, my parents were one of few to study at a previously white only university, and qualify for positions previously reserved for whites only. They went on to run companies that they COULD NOT have run during Apartheid, have offices in places they could not have had before, have clients they could not have before etc. I live in a neighbourhood my parents could not have lived in prior to 1994, and study at a university my parents were not allowed to. These were white only areas only, because they are good.&lt;p&gt;My father was a lawyer during Apartheid. Black people were only allowed to represent black people. Almost all of the people he defended in court were put to death, in many cases before their trials were even heard by courts! Post apartheid, the death penalty was dropped.&lt;p&gt;My family had family friends that were white. They were never allowed to mix. My aunt wanted to marry a white (American) man but was forbidden to. They got married illegally. She was not entitled to live in the property he owned, as black people could not legally own property. She came close to being arrested many times.&lt;p&gt;Post apartheid my aunt and her white husband were married. She was allowed to legally own the property after he died.&lt;p&gt;My birth certificate does not have my parents names on it, due to Apartheid. Families were not formally recognised. I need to get an amended birth certificate to prove who my parents are, and I can now do this post apartheid.&lt;p&gt;My parents were also forcefully removed from their legally owned properties that were taken from them during Apartheid. Their property was seized by the government and never returned. My parents could barely even travel out of South Africa as flying over&amp;#x2F;travelling other African countries were restricted. They were even not allowed to enter many countries abroad.&lt;p&gt;And I&amp;#x27;m not even &amp;#x27;Black&amp;#x27;. My ethnicity is Indian. I am an Indian South Africa (of which there are millions). Everyone who wasn&amp;#x27;t white was counted as &amp;#x27;Black&amp;#x27;. This accounts for over 85% of South Africa&amp;#x27;s population.&lt;p&gt;It is well known in SA that the US government actively supported Apartheid, and many people have a poor opinion of the US because of this.&lt;p&gt;If it wasn&amp;#x27;t for Nelson Mandela, I probably wouldn&amp;#x27;t even be able to post this. My family, and millions others, now live lives they simply could not have lived before.&lt;p&gt;Please explain to me how this is the work of a terrorist, or how in any way the work of the armed wing of the ANC was not justified by the Apartheid regimes massacre of innocent children and women , and torture of prisoners (&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soweto_uprising&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Soweto_uprising&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharpeville_massacre&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Sharpeville_massacre&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Biko&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Steve_Biko&lt;/a&gt;) and their numerous policies and their effects as explained above.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>The Day Mandela Was Arrested, With A Little Help From the CIA</title><url>http://www.newsweek.com/day-mandela-was-arrested-little-help-cia-223935</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>CraigJPerry</author><text>I only found out today how Nelson Mandella place in Glasgow city centre  got its name.&lt;p&gt;To piss off SA, the street their embassy was on was renamed while he was still being held.&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s more the story: &lt;a href=&quot;http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-22976781&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;m.bbc.co.uk&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;uk-scotland-22976781&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>The Day Mandela Was Arrested, With A Little Help From the CIA</title><url>http://www.newsweek.com/day-mandela-was-arrested-little-help-cia-223935</url></story>