<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>burritas</author><text>I really wish we could buy a new car these days without some insane infotainment system. I don&amp;#x27;t even want a screen or backup cam. I know DOT requires a backup cam, but they cause more trouble than they&amp;#x27;re worth and are there largely to compensate for the beefier pylons they also require now (less likely to get crushed if you roll, but more likely to get in an accident from reduced visibility).&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve owned or rented about four cars of different make and different software bases that would occasionally freeze up when you switch out of reverse into forward, but the cam would still be up, preventing you from accessing important car functions (and distracting the driver).&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve had to look up how to reset infotainment systems on youtube because it just wouldn&amp;#x27;t turn on at all.&lt;p&gt;There was also a report of an infotainment system which would glitch out if a radio broadcasted certain characters in their station or track info, causing it to stay stuck on that radio station, even across reboots (IIRC this was traced to an ancient js lib, I may be wrong though). How much help do you think the car manufacturer offered? It was likely asymptotic with 0.&lt;p&gt;But even if infotainment systems didn&amp;#x27;t suck for all these reasons, I still wouldn&amp;#x27;t want one. They seriously just suck ass by their very nature. Just give me a vehicle.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Cops can extract data from 10k different car models’ infotainment systems</title><url>https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2022/12/01/10000-cars-can-be-data-raided-by-police-ice-cbp-love-it/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>squarefoot</author><text>So let me the one asking the inevitable question: short of buying a 1987 van with the environmental impact of a refinery, what are new or reasonably recent brand&amp;#x2F;models whose electronics can be hacked to the point every non essential system can be turned off, when not physically removed, without any hindrance for normal driving operations?</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Cops can extract data from 10k different car models’ infotainment systems</title><url>https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2022/12/01/10000-cars-can-be-data-raided-by-police-ice-cbp-love-it/</url></story>