<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>bityard</author><text>My experience with drivers on Linux and Windows has been just about the exact opposite from yours somehow.&lt;p&gt;On Windows, you sometimes cannot even install the OS without hunting down the right drivers for some piece of hardware like the RAID controller, if you can even find them. Most drivers are authored by the hardware vendors whose main competency may not be writing kernel code, so driver quality tends to be extremely variable. The result is often drivers that just don&amp;#x27;t work well (which can look like a hardware issue, e.g. lack of performance) or crash the whole system.&lt;p&gt;Not all Linux drivers are bug-free or feature-complete of course, but they tend to be reasonable or high quality due to the fact that they are written by and&amp;#x2F;or reviewed by the kernel community. Since all the drivers come with the kernel, the user generally has to do nothing to make their hardware work, it just does right out of the box.&lt;p&gt;(Notable exceptions here are vendors of certain video cards and wifi chips who refuse to either write Linux drivers or supply the information needed to write them. So you do have to be somewhat careful to avoid those vendors when purchasing hardware.)&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m not a heavy gamer but my understanding is that a surprising number of popular games run just fine on Linux, thanks in part to the WINE community and the efforts of Valve.</text><parent_chain><item><author>GuB-42</author><text>As a mostly Linux user, I disagree. You simply can&amp;#x27;t replace Windows with Linux, at least not in the near future. Here is a page which summarize Linux shortcomings on the desktop: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;itvision.altervista.org&amp;#x2F;why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;itvision.altervista.org&amp;#x2F;why.linux.is.not.ready.for.t...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;One reason I think Linux (the kernel) would be a poor fit as a Windows replacement is the lack of a stable driver ABI. Linux is a monolithic kernel and all the drivers are expected to be part of it. It is a model that works because it fully embraces open source and community driven development. But not all manufacturers want that, first because they may not want to, open their code, or maybe they can&amp;#x27;t due to licensing arguments. It also means they need to invest significant resources into getting their code accepted by the community. The Windows driver model drove its rich hardware ecosystem. And if you think switching to a Linux driver model is going to be better, more free, think again, because we already have that with Android. Manufacturers fork the kernel and don&amp;#x27;t give much back to the community, just having them comply with the GPL is a struggle, and hardware support besides what is built into the phone is extremely limited, and because they don&amp;#x27;t work with the community, support for what&amp;#x27;s in the phone isn&amp;#x27;t carried on for more than a couple of years.&lt;p&gt;And Windows really strong point is backwards compatibility. For example, I still use the &amp;quot;free&amp;quot; Photoshop CS2, 20 years later, works perfectly fine as a binary, I can run stuff that dates back from the 3.11 era, though as I understand it, it is mostly emulation at this point. This is part of the reason people use Windows. Microsoft tried to start clean with Windows RT, it was a failure. Apple can get away with it because they have complete control over their ecosystem, not Microsoft.&lt;p&gt;Also, games.</text></item><item><author>sircastor</author><text>I’ve wondered for a bit if there’s a future where Windows turns into A Linux distribution with some extra tools and runtimes for legacy executables. Microsoft has some really expensive software it has to maintain. Office is also maintained on multiple platforms, but it feels like Windows is starting to be a drag on the company - lots of resources for not a lot of income. As wild as it would be, offloading a lot of dev to the OSS community would free up resources to differentiate their product.</text></item><item><author>jgaa</author><text>&amp;gt; I don&amp;#x27;t want anything, any type of news being pushed by my OS.&lt;p&gt;Then, how is Microsoft supposed to properly track your interests and sell that information to their &amp;quot;partners&amp;quot;?&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s been a long time since Microsoft made an operating system. What they make today is basically a spyware-platform where you can run applications if you are really disciplined and persistent. I don&amp;#x27;t understand how people keep up with it.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve used Linux on my desktops and laptops for decades now.</text></item><item><author>PrimeMcFly</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t want &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt;, any type of news being pushed by my OS. It simply isn&amp;#x27;t it&amp;#x27;s job. Maybe, as an option or optional add-on, but not the way MS does it.&lt;p&gt;I use 10 now, as locked down and &amp;#x27;fixed&amp;#x27; as I was able to make it (custom ISO via NTLite with a bunch of crap removed and some fixes steamrolled in), but really I look forward to ditching it altogether - which is a shame. For all the MS hate in the OSS community, I always thought Windows did a lot of stuff well (when it was good at least).&lt;p&gt;The telemetry, changing things for the sake of changing things and forced crap constantly being added is enough. I&amp;#x27;m so in love with awesomewm at this point, and the fact that I can customize and program &lt;i&gt;every&lt;/i&gt; part of my UI, allowing me to have something absolutely perfect and tailor made.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Windows needs to stop showing tabloid news</title><url>https://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-keeps-feeding-tabloid-news</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>headsoup</author><text>Games are minor issue now, to the point I buy new games on Steam without even checking compatibility, because they just work (or have the same problems Windows does anyway).&lt;p&gt;Windows&amp;#x27; strong point is basically some large software vendors just don&amp;#x27;t support Linux (Photoshop, finance software, etc).    And of course corporate.  For the day to day &amp;#x27;casual&amp;#x27; user Linux is every bit as good.  But, much as we all had to &amp;#x27;learn&amp;#x27; Windows when we started using it, so there will be at least a little learning required for Linux.</text><parent_chain><item><author>GuB-42</author><text>As a mostly Linux user, I disagree. You simply can&amp;#x27;t replace Windows with Linux, at least not in the near future. Here is a page which summarize Linux shortcomings on the desktop: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;itvision.altervista.org&amp;#x2F;why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;itvision.altervista.org&amp;#x2F;why.linux.is.not.ready.for.t...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;One reason I think Linux (the kernel) would be a poor fit as a Windows replacement is the lack of a stable driver ABI. Linux is a monolithic kernel and all the drivers are expected to be part of it. It is a model that works because it fully embraces open source and community driven development. But not all manufacturers want that, first because they may not want to, open their code, or maybe they can&amp;#x27;t due to licensing arguments. It also means they need to invest significant resources into getting their code accepted by the community. The Windows driver model drove its rich hardware ecosystem. And if you think switching to a Linux driver model is going to be better, more free, think again, because we already have that with Android. Manufacturers fork the kernel and don&amp;#x27;t give much back to the community, just having them comply with the GPL is a struggle, and hardware support besides what is built into the phone is extremely limited, and because they don&amp;#x27;t work with the community, support for what&amp;#x27;s in the phone isn&amp;#x27;t carried on for more than a couple of years.&lt;p&gt;And Windows really strong point is backwards compatibility. For example, I still use the &amp;quot;free&amp;quot; Photoshop CS2, 20 years later, works perfectly fine as a binary, I can run stuff that dates back from the 3.11 era, though as I understand it, it is mostly emulation at this point. This is part of the reason people use Windows. Microsoft tried to start clean with Windows RT, it was a failure. Apple can get away with it because they have complete control over their ecosystem, not Microsoft.&lt;p&gt;Also, games.</text></item><item><author>sircastor</author><text>I’ve wondered for a bit if there’s a future where Windows turns into A Linux distribution with some extra tools and runtimes for legacy executables. Microsoft has some really expensive software it has to maintain. Office is also maintained on multiple platforms, but it feels like Windows is starting to be a drag on the company - lots of resources for not a lot of income. As wild as it would be, offloading a lot of dev to the OSS community would free up resources to differentiate their product.</text></item><item><author>jgaa</author><text>&amp;gt; I don&amp;#x27;t want anything, any type of news being pushed by my OS.&lt;p&gt;Then, how is Microsoft supposed to properly track your interests and sell that information to their &amp;quot;partners&amp;quot;?&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s been a long time since Microsoft made an operating system. What they make today is basically a spyware-platform where you can run applications if you are really disciplined and persistent. I don&amp;#x27;t understand how people keep up with it.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve used Linux on my desktops and laptops for decades now.</text></item><item><author>PrimeMcFly</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t want &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt;, any type of news being pushed by my OS. It simply isn&amp;#x27;t it&amp;#x27;s job. Maybe, as an option or optional add-on, but not the way MS does it.&lt;p&gt;I use 10 now, as locked down and &amp;#x27;fixed&amp;#x27; as I was able to make it (custom ISO via NTLite with a bunch of crap removed and some fixes steamrolled in), but really I look forward to ditching it altogether - which is a shame. For all the MS hate in the OSS community, I always thought Windows did a lot of stuff well (when it was good at least).&lt;p&gt;The telemetry, changing things for the sake of changing things and forced crap constantly being added is enough. I&amp;#x27;m so in love with awesomewm at this point, and the fact that I can customize and program &lt;i&gt;every&lt;/i&gt; part of my UI, allowing me to have something absolutely perfect and tailor made.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Windows needs to stop showing tabloid news</title><url>https://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-keeps-feeding-tabloid-news</url></story>