<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>highwaylights</author><text>I had something very similar happen a lot of years ago when I was consulting and a client in a bank I&amp;#x27;d worked with had asked me what it would take for me to consider joining them full-time.&lt;p&gt;When I told them they stared dumb-founded at me and said &amp;quot;but that&amp;#x27;s more than &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; make&amp;quot;.  We didn&amp;#x27;t talk about it again, as I don&amp;#x27;t know where you&amp;#x27;d start explaining how capitalism works to a manager &lt;i&gt;in a bank&lt;/i&gt;.</text><parent_chain><item><author>withinboredom</author><text>I remember this one time as a dev, I went through this entire interview process and they offered me 30k a year. I was literally laughing so hard I fell on the floor -- I thought it was a joke. Turns out this was the first dev position the company ever had that wasn&amp;#x27;t contractors.&lt;p&gt;I ended up working with them as a part-time consultant to actually find their first few devs. Everyone else they had interviewed had stormed out, pissed off that they had wasted their time; they didn&amp;#x27;t even realize what they did until I started asking questions after I got off the floor.</text></item><item><author>shrubble</author><text>You see this in other trades also. The company complaining is not offering a market wage.&lt;p&gt;I remember a story about how in Denver a CNC company was having trouble hiring journeyman machinists.  Well Denver is almost as expensive to live in as California and the offer was for 50 to 60k...</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>The perpetual truck driver shortage is not real</title><url>https://www.freightwaves.com/news/the-perpetual-truck-driver-shortage-is-not-real</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>gwbas1c</author><text>When I was in a similar situation I declined. (I was going to offer to contract, but then an absurdly low offer came in via email.)&lt;p&gt;It turned into a series of email flames from an &amp;quot;entrepreneur&amp;quot; that involved references to Frodo and the Ring.&lt;p&gt;Needless to say, the company burned out super-fast. The guy running the company didn&amp;#x27;t realize that he has to pay market rate in order to attract talent; and if he can&amp;#x27;t pay market rate, he has to reset what he&amp;#x27;s trying to do in order to meet his budget.</text><parent_chain><item><author>withinboredom</author><text>I remember this one time as a dev, I went through this entire interview process and they offered me 30k a year. I was literally laughing so hard I fell on the floor -- I thought it was a joke. Turns out this was the first dev position the company ever had that wasn&amp;#x27;t contractors.&lt;p&gt;I ended up working with them as a part-time consultant to actually find their first few devs. Everyone else they had interviewed had stormed out, pissed off that they had wasted their time; they didn&amp;#x27;t even realize what they did until I started asking questions after I got off the floor.</text></item><item><author>shrubble</author><text>You see this in other trades also. The company complaining is not offering a market wage.&lt;p&gt;I remember a story about how in Denver a CNC company was having trouble hiring journeyman machinists.  Well Denver is almost as expensive to live in as California and the offer was for 50 to 60k...</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>The perpetual truck driver shortage is not real</title><url>https://www.freightwaves.com/news/the-perpetual-truck-driver-shortage-is-not-real</url></story>