<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>sct202</author><text>In Illinois and Chicago, the government has been playing games like declaring pension holidays where the contributions shift to the future.  The unions control a large base of voters and haven&amp;#x27;t objected, even though this basically endangers their retirements.  There&amp;#x27;s going to be a point where the funds will literally run out of money, and I doubt that there will be enough things to tax in a year to make up the difference that should have been paid in over decades.</text><parent_chain><item><author>rrrrreeeee</author><text>Do the employees and employers not pay into a separate fund that cannot be touched? I fail to see how it&amp;#x27;s the fault of the pensioners. It&amp;#x27;s absolutely archaic if the future taxpayers have to pay for a retirees pension. In Canada we have pension funds that are separately funded entities that are payed into over an employee&amp;#x27;s career.</text></item><item><author>Shivetya</author><text>Chicago is in the hole for nearly thirty billion dollars. They have been floating the idea of a ten billion dollar bond with the debt structured in a way which lets current politicians escape the fallout from its payment and not having to raise property taxes. The state of Illinois is not well off either with debts estimated at the low of one hundred thirty billion to two hundred fifty billion. An Illinois proposal just to fix state pensions would result in a forty four percent property tax increase for thirty years.&lt;p&gt;Chicago has a narrower group of people to draw from so besides tourist and sin taxes they have to go after any product consumed by residents of the city and that includes digital.&lt;p&gt;Why is this all happening, because there is a well hidden largess in government employee payroll and worse in their pension system. Illinois alone is estimated to have over twenty three thousand retirees pulling down one hundred thousand dollars a year or more. A lot of this is from the higher end positions in city and county governments but you can find police and fire there too.&lt;p&gt;People complain about the disparity in corporate executive level pay to employee should also take a look at the disparity between the same in state and city governments let alone the disparity in retirement to even every day workers in the state. A 100k retirement not counting full benefits is equivalent to nearly forty eight dollars an hour.&lt;p&gt;So expect more digital taxes in your future.&lt;p&gt;PS: the Chicago debt is only for pensions, they are down tens of billions more in deferred maintenance and similar debts.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Chicago successfully taxes streaming services</title><url>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/netflix-tax-chicago-becomes-first-municipality-to-collect-netflix-tax/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>cljs-js-eval</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s archaic and should be changed, but the way the system works in the U.S. is pretty well known to its citizens, which makes it at least partially the fault of the pensioners.  I live in Chicago and every retired schoolteacher and police officer I meet knows full well that they&amp;#x27;re making an exceptional amount of money in retirement.  It&amp;#x27;s usually part of why they took the job.</text><parent_chain><item><author>rrrrreeeee</author><text>Do the employees and employers not pay into a separate fund that cannot be touched? I fail to see how it&amp;#x27;s the fault of the pensioners. It&amp;#x27;s absolutely archaic if the future taxpayers have to pay for a retirees pension. In Canada we have pension funds that are separately funded entities that are payed into over an employee&amp;#x27;s career.</text></item><item><author>Shivetya</author><text>Chicago is in the hole for nearly thirty billion dollars. They have been floating the idea of a ten billion dollar bond with the debt structured in a way which lets current politicians escape the fallout from its payment and not having to raise property taxes. The state of Illinois is not well off either with debts estimated at the low of one hundred thirty billion to two hundred fifty billion. An Illinois proposal just to fix state pensions would result in a forty four percent property tax increase for thirty years.&lt;p&gt;Chicago has a narrower group of people to draw from so besides tourist and sin taxes they have to go after any product consumed by residents of the city and that includes digital.&lt;p&gt;Why is this all happening, because there is a well hidden largess in government employee payroll and worse in their pension system. Illinois alone is estimated to have over twenty three thousand retirees pulling down one hundred thousand dollars a year or more. A lot of this is from the higher end positions in city and county governments but you can find police and fire there too.&lt;p&gt;People complain about the disparity in corporate executive level pay to employee should also take a look at the disparity between the same in state and city governments let alone the disparity in retirement to even every day workers in the state. A 100k retirement not counting full benefits is equivalent to nearly forty eight dollars an hour.&lt;p&gt;So expect more digital taxes in your future.&lt;p&gt;PS: the Chicago debt is only for pensions, they are down tens of billions more in deferred maintenance and similar debts.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Chicago successfully taxes streaming services</title><url>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/netflix-tax-chicago-becomes-first-municipality-to-collect-netflix-tax/</url></story>