<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>cube13</author><text>Here&apos;s the Dell Streak&apos;s pin configuration:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.streaksmart.com/2010/07/dell-streak-doesnt-use-same-30pin-connector-as-iphone.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.streaksmart.com/2010/07/dell-streak-doesnt-use-sa...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;That&apos;s not the same as either Apple&apos;s or Samsung&apos;s.  Samsung&apos;s connection is a mirrored version of Apple&apos;s.  Here&apos;s a comparison of the 3 device connectors:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://android.modaco.com/topic/324387-docking-port-is-it-pdmi/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://android.modaco.com/topic/324387-docking-port-is-it-pd...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;It&apos;s pretty hard to say that Samsung is &quot;just following the standard&quot; if it&apos;s different than Dell&apos;s connector.</text><parent_chain><item><author>ljf</author><text>The cable is a PDMI cable, an industry standard developed by ANSI/CEA (&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Electronics_Association&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Electronics_Associatio...&lt;/a&gt; ), my Dell Streak comes with an identical one too, as do certain Android media players (Slacker G2).&lt;p&gt;Info on PDMI: &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI&lt;/a&gt;
Image of Dell Streak PDMI: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.images.technologyking.co.uk/25032011/hgggg.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.images.technologyking.co.uk/25032011/hgggg.jpg&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>danilocampos</author><text>I want these people who are running around saying there&apos;s no other way to design Samsung&apos;s stuff to explain to me one thing.&lt;p&gt;Why, of all the devices on earth, does Samsung&apos;s tablet exactly mimic Apple&apos;s USB connector?&lt;p&gt;I&apos;ve got a Galaxy Tab sitting right next to me, here. The design isn&apos;t just similar, the dimensions are nearly identical.&lt;p&gt;Explain it to me. Please. If you can offer a compelling case for why Samsung isn&apos;t a shameless industrial design thief that can also account for their USB connector, I will be very impressed. It is, to me, the smoking gun. Don&apos;t tell me it&apos;s the &lt;i&gt;only way to design a low-profile USB connector.&lt;/i&gt; It&apos;s the only way when Apple does it – everyone else has been doing fine with USB mini and micro.&lt;p&gt;Samsung: &lt;a href=&quot;http://i.imgur.com/eyqGw.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://i.imgur.com/eyqGw.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Apple: &lt;a href=&quot;http://i.imgur.com/nh0eI.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://i.imgur.com/nh0eI.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Everyone else&lt;/i&gt;: &lt;a href=&quot;http://i.imgur.com/vpPhZ.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://i.imgur.com/vpPhZ.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh, and for thoroughness, how Amazon designed a beautiful USB micro cable that looked nothing at all like Apple&apos;s: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Replacement-Display-Generation-Kindles/dp/B003M5IQLU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Replacement-Display-Generation-...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Maybe Apple had a time machine and traveled into the future, stealing Samsung&apos;s wholly original USB cable design?</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it</title><url>http://www.baekdal.com/opinion/apple-never-designed-the-ipad-they-undesigned-it/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>sliverstorm</author><text>It occurs to me there is a strong incentive to use a PDMI interface- many cars, devices and accessories that interface with the iPod use that interface. Is it IP theft to hook into devices that normally hook into the iPod?</text><parent_chain><item><author>ljf</author><text>The cable is a PDMI cable, an industry standard developed by ANSI/CEA (&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Electronics_Association&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Electronics_Associatio...&lt;/a&gt; ), my Dell Streak comes with an identical one too, as do certain Android media players (Slacker G2).&lt;p&gt;Info on PDMI: &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI&lt;/a&gt;
Image of Dell Streak PDMI: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.images.technologyking.co.uk/25032011/hgggg.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.images.technologyking.co.uk/25032011/hgggg.jpg&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>danilocampos</author><text>I want these people who are running around saying there&apos;s no other way to design Samsung&apos;s stuff to explain to me one thing.&lt;p&gt;Why, of all the devices on earth, does Samsung&apos;s tablet exactly mimic Apple&apos;s USB connector?&lt;p&gt;I&apos;ve got a Galaxy Tab sitting right next to me, here. The design isn&apos;t just similar, the dimensions are nearly identical.&lt;p&gt;Explain it to me. Please. If you can offer a compelling case for why Samsung isn&apos;t a shameless industrial design thief that can also account for their USB connector, I will be very impressed. It is, to me, the smoking gun. Don&apos;t tell me it&apos;s the &lt;i&gt;only way to design a low-profile USB connector.&lt;/i&gt; It&apos;s the only way when Apple does it – everyone else has been doing fine with USB mini and micro.&lt;p&gt;Samsung: &lt;a href=&quot;http://i.imgur.com/eyqGw.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://i.imgur.com/eyqGw.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Apple: &lt;a href=&quot;http://i.imgur.com/nh0eI.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://i.imgur.com/nh0eI.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Everyone else&lt;/i&gt;: &lt;a href=&quot;http://i.imgur.com/vpPhZ.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://i.imgur.com/vpPhZ.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh, and for thoroughness, how Amazon designed a beautiful USB micro cable that looked nothing at all like Apple&apos;s: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Replacement-Display-Generation-Kindles/dp/B003M5IQLU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Replacement-Display-Generation-...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Maybe Apple had a time machine and traveled into the future, stealing Samsung&apos;s wholly original USB cable design?</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it</title><url>http://www.baekdal.com/opinion/apple-never-designed-the-ipad-they-undesigned-it/</url></story>