<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>tooltalk</author><text>There is one important aspect of this re-trial many of you are missing. The case was already decided years ago against Samsung -- there is nothing more to debate on that end, however absurd the decision.&lt;p&gt;Now the new jury decided that those frivolous infringements amount to most of Samsung&amp;#x27;s entire profit. In another word, Apple&amp;#x27;s hometown jury decided that Apple&amp;#x27;s patents rounded corners drove market demand for Samsung&amp;#x27;s infringed device almost single-handedly - not their brilliants displays, battery, or even wireless radio functionality.&lt;p&gt;Needlessly to say, not only is it ridiculous to say that those frivolous few design components amounts to almost all of Samsung&amp;#x27;s profit, this also sets extremely dangerous legal precedence. I could only imagine what future patent trolls with absurd design patents are going to look like now -- and, of course, Apple won&amp;#x27;t be immune to this either. I can&amp;#x27;t imagine any sane mind wanting this outcome (and yes that includes Apple&amp;#x27;s own counsel).</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Apple Wins $539M from Samsung in Damages Retrial</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-24/apple-wins-539-million-from-samsung-in-damages-retrial</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>zik</author><text>They patented &amp;quot;a grid of icons&amp;quot; when it&amp;#x27;s literally the first way you&amp;#x27;d think of doing the UI - basically the definition of an &amp;quot;obvious patent&amp;quot;. Not to mention that it&amp;#x27;d already been done that way many times before and was the standard thing on smartphones by that point. So both obvious and massive prior art.&lt;p&gt;For instance here&amp;#x27;s a Nokia phone from 2005:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;phys.org&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;2005-03-nokia-3g-imaging-smartphone-shipping.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;phys.org&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;2005-03-nokia-3g-imaging-smartphone-sh...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;And a Cingular branded HTC Windows phone from 2006:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.flobee.net&amp;#x2F;wp-content&amp;#x2F;uploads&amp;#x2F;cingular2125.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.flobee.net&amp;#x2F;wp-content&amp;#x2F;uploads&amp;#x2F;cingular2125.jpg&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Apple Wins $539M from Samsung in Damages Retrial</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-24/apple-wins-539-million-from-samsung-in-damages-retrial</url></story>