<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>tom_mellior</author><text>&amp;gt; Or do vegans often ponder the &amp;quot;ingredients&amp;quot; in everyday objects?&lt;p&gt;Yes.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Is vaccinating your kids vegan? Are all vegans anti-vax?&lt;p&gt;There is certainly a lunatic anti-vax fringe. But no, not all vegans are like that, even though many vaccines contain animal derived products. I find this interesting: &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;rvgn.org&amp;#x2F;2015&amp;#x2F;05&amp;#x2F;09&amp;#x2F;anti-vax-and-veganism&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;rvgn.org&amp;#x2F;2015&amp;#x2F;05&amp;#x2F;09&amp;#x2F;anti-vax-and-veganism&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Are soaps, cosmetics, detergents, plastics, tires, and lubricants made with stearic acid and other beef products vegan?&lt;p&gt;No.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Vegans for ethical reasons seem to only not want to consume a single part of the animal, but consume the rest, which is a pretty large portion, by weight.&lt;p&gt;No vegan I ever interacted with fit this description.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; And if you&amp;#x27;re eating organic food, isn&amp;#x27;t it more likely that your spinach was grown in a bath of bone meal, blood meal, fish meal?&lt;p&gt;Possible, but if everyone stopped eating those animals, the prices of these products would presumably make their use uneconomical, so promoting veganism would change this.&lt;p&gt;Though I admit I haven&amp;#x27;t heard vegans I know ever discuss this particular point. They are probably not aware of how the plants they eat are fertilized.</text><parent_chain><item><author>simonsarris</author><text>There has to be a word for this kind of... comprehensive incompleteness. Being so particular about a vegan diet (for ethical reasons) strikes me as very odd when animal products are in use every day around us by vegans. Do people know we use every part of the proverbial buffalo? Or do vegans often ponder the &amp;quot;ingredients&amp;quot; in everyday objects?&lt;p&gt;Is vaccinating your kids vegan? Are all vegans anti-vax?&lt;p&gt;Are soaps, cosmetics, detergents, plastics, tires, and lubricants made with stearic acid and other beef products vegan?&lt;p&gt;Vegans for ethical reasons seem to only not want to consume a single part of the animal, but consume the rest, which is a pretty large portion, by weight.&lt;p&gt;And if you&amp;#x27;re eating organic food, isn&amp;#x27;t it more likely that your spinach was grown in a bath of bone meal, blood meal, fish meal? Do vegans know how we produce organic fertilizers?</text></item><item><author>toomanybeersies</author><text>Doesn&amp;#x27;t this fall prey to the fact that there isn&amp;#x27;t a black and what distinction for exactly what&amp;#x27;s vegan?&lt;p&gt;There are people that will argue that honey is suitable for vegans: &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;veganbros.com&amp;#x2F;1-reason-honey-vegan&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;veganbros.com&amp;#x2F;1-reason-honey-vegan&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are even people that will argue that shellfish are suitable for vegans to eat: &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.slate.com&amp;#x2F;articles&amp;#x2F;life&amp;#x2F;food&amp;#x2F;2010&amp;#x2F;04&amp;#x2F;consider_the_oyster.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.slate.com&amp;#x2F;articles&amp;#x2F;life&amp;#x2F;food&amp;#x2F;2010&amp;#x2F;04&amp;#x2F;consider_the...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Is-Vegan – Helps you to find out which food ingredients are vegan</title><url>https://github.com/hmontazeri/is-vegan</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>mikk14</author><text>Note: I am not vegan, nor I necessarily endorse the thinking behind this answer, but I&amp;#x27;m trying to do a service to the discussion by reporting what I heard from a conversation with a vegan friend.&lt;p&gt;I think the argument here is that most of most animals&amp;#x27; worth come from eating them or their products. If everybody were to stop eating animals then it would not be economically feasible any more to use the &amp;quot;waste&amp;quot; parts of the animal for all the other products. We would find other more economically feasible ways to produce the same products (via plant matter or synthetics). Thus, by refusing to eat meat and animal products, all the other uses of animal suffering would cease to exist.</text><parent_chain><item><author>simonsarris</author><text>There has to be a word for this kind of... comprehensive incompleteness. Being so particular about a vegan diet (for ethical reasons) strikes me as very odd when animal products are in use every day around us by vegans. Do people know we use every part of the proverbial buffalo? Or do vegans often ponder the &amp;quot;ingredients&amp;quot; in everyday objects?&lt;p&gt;Is vaccinating your kids vegan? Are all vegans anti-vax?&lt;p&gt;Are soaps, cosmetics, detergents, plastics, tires, and lubricants made with stearic acid and other beef products vegan?&lt;p&gt;Vegans for ethical reasons seem to only not want to consume a single part of the animal, but consume the rest, which is a pretty large portion, by weight.&lt;p&gt;And if you&amp;#x27;re eating organic food, isn&amp;#x27;t it more likely that your spinach was grown in a bath of bone meal, blood meal, fish meal? Do vegans know how we produce organic fertilizers?</text></item><item><author>toomanybeersies</author><text>Doesn&amp;#x27;t this fall prey to the fact that there isn&amp;#x27;t a black and what distinction for exactly what&amp;#x27;s vegan?&lt;p&gt;There are people that will argue that honey is suitable for vegans: &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;veganbros.com&amp;#x2F;1-reason-honey-vegan&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;veganbros.com&amp;#x2F;1-reason-honey-vegan&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are even people that will argue that shellfish are suitable for vegans to eat: &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.slate.com&amp;#x2F;articles&amp;#x2F;life&amp;#x2F;food&amp;#x2F;2010&amp;#x2F;04&amp;#x2F;consider_the_oyster.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.slate.com&amp;#x2F;articles&amp;#x2F;life&amp;#x2F;food&amp;#x2F;2010&amp;#x2F;04&amp;#x2F;consider_the...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Is-Vegan – Helps you to find out which food ingredients are vegan</title><url>https://github.com/hmontazeri/is-vegan</url></story>