<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>Dave_Rosenthal</author><text>I wonder how good they can make the feel without a direct connection to the road?&lt;p&gt;For example, as you stand on a bike stopped at an intersection you have your foot resting on the petal, ready to take off. As you launch, you put a lot of force on that petal and rely on the feeling of connection to the ground to get going.&lt;p&gt;This motor is going to have to hold that force statically and have a control system with sufficient power and bandwidth to emulate the familiar feeling of the ground. Not impossible I guess, but I wonder how well it works.&lt;p&gt;Regarding efficiency, I think this is a smaller issue than it seems. Let&amp;#x27;s say a chain is 95% efficient and their system is 85% efficient (they claim 5% less efficient than a chain, apparently, but I&amp;#x27;m sure that&amp;#x27;s a stretch). Most energy cycling, if not grinding up a steep hill, is dumped into air resistance. But speed only goes up with the cube root of power with regard to air resistance. This means (given the hypothetical numbers above) that you&amp;#x27;d go 3.8% faster with a physical chain (or 1.7% if you believe their loss numbers). That difference is not perceptible on a bike and not an issue for &amp;#x27;getting around&amp;#x27; use cases.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Chainless electric drive system “Free Drive” for bicycles (2021)</title><url>https://www.schaeffler.de/en/news_media/press_releases/press_releases_detail.jsp?id=87716736</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>sandgiant</author><text>&amp;gt; The Free Drive system works by converting the rider’s pedaling power into electrical energy via a small generator housed between the pedals. It then delivers this energy to the rear wheel (or wheels) via cables strung inside or outside the frame of the bike, rather than sending it mechanically through a chain or belt. Excess energy created by pedaling is fed back into the battery. The end result is a power system with fewer moving parts to complicate construction.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theverge.com&amp;#x2F;2021&amp;#x2F;9&amp;#x2F;2&amp;#x2F;22653697&amp;#x2F;schaeffler-free-drive-e-bike-system-chainless&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theverge.com&amp;#x2F;2021&amp;#x2F;9&amp;#x2F;2&amp;#x2F;22653697&amp;#x2F;schaeffler-free-d...&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Chainless electric drive system “Free Drive” for bicycles (2021)</title><url>https://www.schaeffler.de/en/news_media/press_releases/press_releases_detail.jsp?id=87716736</url></story>