<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>furyofantares</author><text>Probably none, they were both massive hits immediately, nobody was calling them failed products months after release.&lt;p&gt;edit: That said I&amp;#x27;m reading now that the early reports that Apple downgraded their expectations for year 1 from 800k units to 400k units after launch were wrong, and instead they were always projecting 400k units.</text><parent_chain><item><author>guerrilla</author><text>I wonder how many comments there were like this about the iPod and iPhone.</text></item><item><author>behnamoh</author><text>Vision Pro must be the worst failed product Apple has ever made, and they made Newton.&lt;p&gt;I remember all the hype about it on Twitter, and then it all went away when people started to realize just how pointless this device is, with all the Apple restrictions that limit its applications.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Apple Debuts VisionOS 2</title><url>https://techcrunch.com/2024/06/10/apple-debuts-visionos-2/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>scarface_74</author><text>&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;m.slashdot.org&amp;#x2F;story&amp;#x2F;21026&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;m.slashdot.org&amp;#x2F;story&amp;#x2F;21026&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;“No wireless. Less space than the Nomad. Lame”&lt;p&gt;Palm CEO on the iPhone&lt;p&gt;“ We’ve learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent phone, PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They’re not going to just walk in.”&lt;p&gt;People seem to forget that it took two years to sell the first 1 million iPods and Apple only sold 10 million iPhones the first year - 1% of the total market.</text><parent_chain><item><author>guerrilla</author><text>I wonder how many comments there were like this about the iPod and iPhone.</text></item><item><author>behnamoh</author><text>Vision Pro must be the worst failed product Apple has ever made, and they made Newton.&lt;p&gt;I remember all the hype about it on Twitter, and then it all went away when people started to realize just how pointless this device is, with all the Apple restrictions that limit its applications.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Apple Debuts VisionOS 2</title><url>https://techcrunch.com/2024/06/10/apple-debuts-visionos-2/</url></story>