<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>CalRobert</author><text>The market is profoundly distorted by single use zoning, parking minimums, density maximums, wide (and high speed) stroads, and other urban design choices that force long journeys. It&amp;#x27;s also not safe to be on an ebike surrounded by electric Hummers, F-350 super duties, and your normal &amp;quot;whole kindergarten class in the blind spot&amp;quot; Escalades.&lt;p&gt;Having just spent a week in Utrecht it&amp;#x27;s very clear that &amp;quot;the market&amp;quot; can certainly show a preference for ebikes over cars.</text><parent_chain><item><author>jgilias</author><text>In theory.&lt;p&gt;In practice the market has spoken as to what kind of a form-factor people find the most useful for personal transportation in different climates and economic development scenarios. There’s no reason why ICEs couldn’t have supported the kind of vehicles some people imagine other people need.&lt;p&gt;The market has spoken, EVs only started gaining traction when they started resembling actual cars in form and function. Think of it as parallel evolution. Dolphins and fish.</text></item><item><author>bertil</author><text>This article and the IEA sources that they rely on assumes that an EV is a car. That’s not a good assumption: electric bicycles and trikes like the Aptera are much better direction for the vast majority of individual transport.&lt;p&gt;At that size, you can rely on smaller batteries and solar panels for many journeys (it isn’t fully sufficient for an Aptera but an e-bicycle with a small roof can ride as long as the Sun shines).&lt;p&gt;Using three tons vehicles for long-distance journeys or for the transport of goods isn’t efficient: trains (and last-mile delivery on cargo bikes) are a lot more economical in both energy, accident risk and individual time (or vehicle investment if you assume an autonomous future).&lt;p&gt;If we don’t use the energy transition to shift away from the domination of heavy, polluting, deadly cars, we would have lost an opportunity.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Does the world have enough lithium to move to electric vehicles?</title><url>https://hannahritchie.substack.com/p/lithium-electric-vehicles</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>hannob</author><text>&amp;quot;Let&amp;#x27;s build bike lanes that are so scary only the bavest will dare to use them - and also subsidise cars in any way we can.&amp;quot; - &amp;quot;The market has spoken, people want cars!&amp;quot;</text><parent_chain><item><author>jgilias</author><text>In theory.&lt;p&gt;In practice the market has spoken as to what kind of a form-factor people find the most useful for personal transportation in different climates and economic development scenarios. There’s no reason why ICEs couldn’t have supported the kind of vehicles some people imagine other people need.&lt;p&gt;The market has spoken, EVs only started gaining traction when they started resembling actual cars in form and function. Think of it as parallel evolution. Dolphins and fish.</text></item><item><author>bertil</author><text>This article and the IEA sources that they rely on assumes that an EV is a car. That’s not a good assumption: electric bicycles and trikes like the Aptera are much better direction for the vast majority of individual transport.&lt;p&gt;At that size, you can rely on smaller batteries and solar panels for many journeys (it isn’t fully sufficient for an Aptera but an e-bicycle with a small roof can ride as long as the Sun shines).&lt;p&gt;Using three tons vehicles for long-distance journeys or for the transport of goods isn’t efficient: trains (and last-mile delivery on cargo bikes) are a lot more economical in both energy, accident risk and individual time (or vehicle investment if you assume an autonomous future).&lt;p&gt;If we don’t use the energy transition to shift away from the domination of heavy, polluting, deadly cars, we would have lost an opportunity.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Does the world have enough lithium to move to electric vehicles?</title><url>https://hannahritchie.substack.com/p/lithium-electric-vehicles</url></story>