<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>908B64B197</author><text>The serious ones do.&lt;p&gt;There are a lot of recruiters on the market. But it&amp;#x27;s really no different than the market for lawyers; the median lawyer is a very poor man but the average lawyer is rich.&lt;p&gt;If they can&amp;#x27;t put a number on the table, they are probably one of those that tries to run a volume game, which I think is a bad approach for engineering. Basically spamming and not giving any info until they get their quotas.&lt;p&gt;The good ones want you to get hired at a good price because they are often paid a commission on your salary. And the great ones want to keep in touch so they can cash out again once you get bored with your current job. But the spammy one will have moved on to selling used cars at this point.</text><parent_chain><item><author>rkachowski</author><text>Do you find that recruiters will typically give you a salary range beyond &amp;quot;competitive&amp;quot; before you&amp;#x27;ve started the interview process?</text></item><item><author>klenwell</author><text>One additional tip on recruiters: have a cheat sheet ready (web page or public Google doc) that answers the basic questions they&amp;#x27;ll have for you and makes clear your expectations.&lt;p&gt;Here&amp;#x27;s the info I ask them to provide:&lt;p&gt;- Job Title and Salary&lt;p&gt;- Job Description&lt;p&gt;- Company Overview and Location&lt;p&gt;- Steps in Hiring Process&lt;p&gt;Whenever I&amp;#x27;m emailed by a recruiter, I politely thank them for reaching out, paste the link to the cheat sheet, and invite them to review it and write back if they still think I&amp;#x27;m a good match. It quickly separates the professionals from the wannabes. (You usually don&amp;#x27;t hear back from the wannabes.) The ones who do write back often thank me for it.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m pretty cynical when it comes to recruiters. So I find it interesting that 3 of my last 4 jobs have come through one.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Interview advice that got me offers</title><url>https://www.zainrizvi.io/blog/the-interviewing-advice-no-one-shares/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>klenwell</author><text>Yes. My cheat sheet includes a &amp;quot;Minimum base salary&amp;quot; bullet point that is much higher than my walk-away number. This anchors the discussion.&lt;p&gt;I find the recruiters who get back to me are pretty open and transparent. If not, that&amp;#x27;s a sign they&amp;#x27;re probably not well connected with the company and may even simply be front-running a listing they found on a job site.&lt;p&gt;On preview: what @kortilla said. I don&amp;#x27;t find it limiting since it&amp;#x27;s a number I would be happy accepting (all other things being acceptable). I&amp;#x27;m not out to maximize my salary. I want to maximize my well-being.</text><parent_chain><item><author>rkachowski</author><text>Do you find that recruiters will typically give you a salary range beyond &amp;quot;competitive&amp;quot; before you&amp;#x27;ve started the interview process?</text></item><item><author>klenwell</author><text>One additional tip on recruiters: have a cheat sheet ready (web page or public Google doc) that answers the basic questions they&amp;#x27;ll have for you and makes clear your expectations.&lt;p&gt;Here&amp;#x27;s the info I ask them to provide:&lt;p&gt;- Job Title and Salary&lt;p&gt;- Job Description&lt;p&gt;- Company Overview and Location&lt;p&gt;- Steps in Hiring Process&lt;p&gt;Whenever I&amp;#x27;m emailed by a recruiter, I politely thank them for reaching out, paste the link to the cheat sheet, and invite them to review it and write back if they still think I&amp;#x27;m a good match. It quickly separates the professionals from the wannabes. (You usually don&amp;#x27;t hear back from the wannabes.) The ones who do write back often thank me for it.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m pretty cynical when it comes to recruiters. So I find it interesting that 3 of my last 4 jobs have come through one.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Interview advice that got me offers</title><url>https://www.zainrizvi.io/blog/the-interviewing-advice-no-one-shares/</url></story>