<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>a-dub</author><text>&amp;gt; In the end it was just toxic and people were turned off. You don&amp;#x27;t want to end up in a long conversation every time there&amp;#x27;s something to negotiate. It also makes everyone think you&amp;#x27;re going to be difficult.&lt;p&gt;this. i&amp;#x27;ve been turned off by people when i&amp;#x27;ve seen them push crazy contracts and generally have always believed that mutually beneficial relationships are based on both parties looking out for each other&amp;#x27;s best interests.&lt;p&gt;you should never have to haggle over money in any serious deal, having to do so is what they call a &amp;quot;big giant glowing red flag.&amp;quot;</text><parent_chain><item><author>lordnacho</author><text>A hundred times this.&lt;p&gt;A guy I worked with figured out that you can negotiate everything, and did. He&amp;#x27;d get pissed off at the bank charging him an overdraft fee and sit in the telephone queue to get his £20 back.&lt;p&gt;He took a cab on a business trip to Dubai, and the cabbie kept the meter going while filling up. He argued it and got the equivalent of 50p off.&lt;p&gt;He&amp;#x27;d negotiate agreements with brokers and negotiate absolutely everything.&lt;p&gt;He pushed really hard on the partnership agreement.&lt;p&gt;In the end it was just toxic and people were turned off. You don&amp;#x27;t want to end up in a long conversation every time there&amp;#x27;s something to negotiate. It also makes everyone think you&amp;#x27;re going to be difficult.</text></item><item><author>muzani</author><text>Be warned that people are reciprocal. I had a business partner who would negotiate &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt;. We found that luck would turn against us. There would suddenly be added processes and bureaucracy. Partners backed out on verbal promises. People were turning down job offers or sleeping on the job. A banner we bought didn&amp;#x27;t include the banner stand because it wasn&amp;#x27;t &amp;quot;included in the price&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;If you&amp;#x27;re generous to others, they may be generous to you. If you&amp;#x27;re cheap with others, they will definitely be cheap with you.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Tell HN: Did you know you can negotiate price on many things?</title><text>I learned this late in life, but I came to realize that for anything you buy from a small business or from someone on commission, you can negotiate.&lt;p&gt;After reading about it on Reddit, I‘ve shown up to hotels and gotten 40% off initial price.&lt;p&gt;At Guitar Center, you can negotiate the price of guitars.&lt;p&gt;I’ve seen people negotiate a round of shots in NYC.&lt;p&gt;The world exists out there at a discount if you’re willing to ask for it.</text></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>giantg2</author><text>Well, the cabbie leaving the meter running while filling up is more standing up for yourself and not being taken advantage of. That&amp;#x27;s a task that should have taken place before picking up a fare (that they wouldn&amp;#x27;t normally be compensated for that time).</text><parent_chain><item><author>lordnacho</author><text>A hundred times this.&lt;p&gt;A guy I worked with figured out that you can negotiate everything, and did. He&amp;#x27;d get pissed off at the bank charging him an overdraft fee and sit in the telephone queue to get his £20 back.&lt;p&gt;He took a cab on a business trip to Dubai, and the cabbie kept the meter going while filling up. He argued it and got the equivalent of 50p off.&lt;p&gt;He&amp;#x27;d negotiate agreements with brokers and negotiate absolutely everything.&lt;p&gt;He pushed really hard on the partnership agreement.&lt;p&gt;In the end it was just toxic and people were turned off. You don&amp;#x27;t want to end up in a long conversation every time there&amp;#x27;s something to negotiate. It also makes everyone think you&amp;#x27;re going to be difficult.</text></item><item><author>muzani</author><text>Be warned that people are reciprocal. I had a business partner who would negotiate &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt;. We found that luck would turn against us. There would suddenly be added processes and bureaucracy. Partners backed out on verbal promises. People were turning down job offers or sleeping on the job. A banner we bought didn&amp;#x27;t include the banner stand because it wasn&amp;#x27;t &amp;quot;included in the price&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;If you&amp;#x27;re generous to others, they may be generous to you. If you&amp;#x27;re cheap with others, they will definitely be cheap with you.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Tell HN: Did you know you can negotiate price on many things?</title><text>I learned this late in life, but I came to realize that for anything you buy from a small business or from someone on commission, you can negotiate.&lt;p&gt;After reading about it on Reddit, I‘ve shown up to hotels and gotten 40% off initial price.&lt;p&gt;At Guitar Center, you can negotiate the price of guitars.&lt;p&gt;I’ve seen people negotiate a round of shots in NYC.&lt;p&gt;The world exists out there at a discount if you’re willing to ask for it.</text></story>