<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>rospaya</author><text>&amp;gt; Not to mention the Microsoft Zune was definitely a dud.&lt;p&gt;Can&amp;#x27;t comment on the ecosystem since back then my only option was piracy, but the second and third generation players were very good. The HD is still one of the sleekest pieces of hardware that I used. But Apple couldn&amp;#x27;t be beat at that point.</text><parent_chain><item><author>rawgabbit</author><text>Steve Jobs and Apple can put together a music store and iPod prototype that was sexy, easy to use, and wowed the music executives who knew Napster and iPods were the future. Meanwhile Microsoft still manages to infuriate their own users with things like Windows 11 start menu. Not to mention the Microsoft Zune was definitely a dud.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.rollingstone.com&amp;#x2F;culture&amp;#x2F;culture-news&amp;#x2F;itunes-10th-anniversary-how-steve-jobs-turned-the-industry-upside-down-68985&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.rollingstone.com&amp;#x2F;culture&amp;#x2F;culture-news&amp;#x2F;itunes-10t...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>chasing</author><text>I really don’t think MS had the consumer product vision at the time to pull anything like a music store off. Apple had the vision to get from point A to point B and have huge swaths of consumers hop on board for the ride.&lt;p&gt;Wild oversimplification, but I always felt that MS suffered from their monopoly during the 90s in that simply never had to make products people really cared about. Apple did. And when the consumer market exploded — especially after touchscreen phones hit — MS just didn’t have any good muscles to use in the fight. They’d been sort of cheating it for so long that the stuff they kept bringing to market was just a total mess.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Microsoft execs on Apple&apos;s music store (2003)</title><url>https://twitter.com/TechEmails/status/1647317806697050112</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>junon</author><text>This. It&amp;#x27;s always been wild to me how tone deaf Microsoft has always been. I always read these internal emails thinking how wildly out of touch with their own users they are.</text><parent_chain><item><author>rawgabbit</author><text>Steve Jobs and Apple can put together a music store and iPod prototype that was sexy, easy to use, and wowed the music executives who knew Napster and iPods were the future. Meanwhile Microsoft still manages to infuriate their own users with things like Windows 11 start menu. Not to mention the Microsoft Zune was definitely a dud.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.rollingstone.com&amp;#x2F;culture&amp;#x2F;culture-news&amp;#x2F;itunes-10th-anniversary-how-steve-jobs-turned-the-industry-upside-down-68985&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.rollingstone.com&amp;#x2F;culture&amp;#x2F;culture-news&amp;#x2F;itunes-10t...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>chasing</author><text>I really don’t think MS had the consumer product vision at the time to pull anything like a music store off. Apple had the vision to get from point A to point B and have huge swaths of consumers hop on board for the ride.&lt;p&gt;Wild oversimplification, but I always felt that MS suffered from their monopoly during the 90s in that simply never had to make products people really cared about. Apple did. And when the consumer market exploded — especially after touchscreen phones hit — MS just didn’t have any good muscles to use in the fight. They’d been sort of cheating it for so long that the stuff they kept bringing to market was just a total mess.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Microsoft execs on Apple&apos;s music store (2003)</title><url>https://twitter.com/TechEmails/status/1647317806697050112</url></story>