<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>shortformblog</author><text>First: I run a popular newsletter that uses custom HTML theming and CMS customization. I don’t work in marketing. I just genuinely think HTML in email is actually a value add. Not everyone you disagree with works in marketing.&lt;p&gt;Secondly: The problem you’re pointing at is bad implementation of standards, which is entirely on Microsoft and Google. (Mostly Microsoft.) The reason HTML doesn’t work well in email is because of bad prioritization, which has led to kludge upon kludge.</text><parent_chain><item><author>dylan604</author><text>[flagged]</text></item><item><author>shortformblog</author><text>As someone who works very regularly in email, it really bugs me that every time I see a thread about this topic in Hacker News there seems to be this confirmation bias that this is how the average person uses email in the wild, and I’m just trying to make the point that “Hey, this is a strong minority viewpoint.”&lt;p&gt;I get that y’all don’t like HTML email, but the fact of the matter is, that was a battle lost 25 years ago, and we need to figure out how to keep what we have working for people who don’t even know how to set plaintext email.&lt;p&gt;That’s what this particular tool is for.</text></item><item><author>dylan604</author><text>I disagree. I wish I had more people that fit that filter. Email is broken and just a platform for spam. Even if it might be from someone that I purchased something from once or even regularly, if I did not select a check box to opt-in to receiving your email, it is spam.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s 2024. Emailing large file attachments is about as old and busted as FTP. There are so many other services to &amp;quot;share&amp;quot; large files. Attachment to email was such a kludgy hack in the first place just shows it was only the best worst idea waiting for better solutions. We have them now.</text></item><item><author>shortformblog</author><text>Expand your group of people, because you clearly don’t know enough people.</text></item><item><author>userbinator</author><text>The lower the score, the better. I know many who have a policy of &amp;quot;emails must be in plaintext only, with no attachments unless agreed to in advance; everything else gets deleted automatically.&amp;quot;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content</title><url>https://www.caniemail.com/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>ceejayoz</author><text>There&amp;#x27;s a vast spectrum of HTML email.&lt;p&gt;Most people use it in the &amp;quot;bold a few things and make a few words into a link&amp;quot; side of things; more like the old .RTF format. The caniemail.com stuff is for the more complex stuff that might be better left to websites.</text><parent_chain><item><author>dylan604</author><text>[flagged]</text></item><item><author>shortformblog</author><text>As someone who works very regularly in email, it really bugs me that every time I see a thread about this topic in Hacker News there seems to be this confirmation bias that this is how the average person uses email in the wild, and I’m just trying to make the point that “Hey, this is a strong minority viewpoint.”&lt;p&gt;I get that y’all don’t like HTML email, but the fact of the matter is, that was a battle lost 25 years ago, and we need to figure out how to keep what we have working for people who don’t even know how to set plaintext email.&lt;p&gt;That’s what this particular tool is for.</text></item><item><author>dylan604</author><text>I disagree. I wish I had more people that fit that filter. Email is broken and just a platform for spam. Even if it might be from someone that I purchased something from once or even regularly, if I did not select a check box to opt-in to receiving your email, it is spam.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s 2024. Emailing large file attachments is about as old and busted as FTP. There are so many other services to &amp;quot;share&amp;quot; large files. Attachment to email was such a kludgy hack in the first place just shows it was only the best worst idea waiting for better solutions. We have them now.</text></item><item><author>shortformblog</author><text>Expand your group of people, because you clearly don’t know enough people.</text></item><item><author>userbinator</author><text>The lower the score, the better. I know many who have a policy of &amp;quot;emails must be in plaintext only, with no attachments unless agreed to in advance; everything else gets deleted automatically.&amp;quot;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content</title><url>https://www.caniemail.com/</url></story>