<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>ACow_Adonis</author><text>Honestly, as a data scientist, most of the time when people move to the browser&amp;#x2F;cloud, I feel more like a michellin chef who&amp;#x27;s now been told that they now have to cook everything on a george foreman grill.&lt;p&gt;That I lease from someone else.&lt;p&gt;Any by the way, it&amp;#x27;s in their kitchen, not yours.&lt;p&gt;And the power cord is administrated by someone else.&lt;p&gt;In all seriousness, there&amp;#x27;s no fundamental reason why an IDE CAN&amp;#x27;T work in a browser.  Its just that I feel like we&amp;#x27;re constantly regressing and this is all just a subtle way for an external corporate to capture me so that I can&amp;#x27;t opt out.  The amount of time i have to spend at work negotiating with other parties&amp;#x2F;budgets&amp;#x2F;silos&amp;#x2F;corps dealing with remote environments and software, when I could have done the whole thing in half the time with a 5k budget on a local machine...&lt;p&gt;It doesn&amp;#x27;t feel like we&amp;#x27;re moving forward...maybe moving back to medieval guild craftsman, because control is being taken out of my hands and I&amp;#x27;m forced to sign up to respective software&amp;#x2F;environment guilds to do my work?</text><parent_chain><item><author>pampa</author><text>I just thought that i feel like a medieval guild craftsman must have felt during the industrial revolution. We did have all this sharp and complicated tools we installed and configured on our laptops ourselves, spent years in apprenticeship just to learn now to awk or exit vim. Passed the secret knowledge to our own padawans.&lt;p&gt;And now they are replacing it with what? An IDE in a browser??? that you can just point to and start writing code? just like that??? 8-)</text></item><item><author>jameslk</author><text>The end goal is to move the IDE and all development tooling to the cloud (similar to what GitHub Codespaces is trying to do). All editor defaults, build tools, linting, environment best practices, etc will be provided for you without all the ceremony of setting it up. This will make it easier for new team members to be productive from day 1 and it will allow you to have multiple development environments for each branch of work.&lt;p&gt;The realization is that if you control the development environment, by introducing seamless integrations with your hosting through things like easy-to-use databases (i.e. vendor lock-in), you also have control over the hosting of applications. That&amp;#x27;s a pretty lucrative business as we&amp;#x27;ve seen with AWS, GCP, Azure, etc.&lt;p&gt;Also, there&amp;#x27;s a trend towards low code&amp;#x2F;no code, so everything is becoming tiny microservices integrated with other SaaS solutions. Something like Repl.it can help you with the &amp;quot;last mile&amp;quot; of development work when you need build something lightweight and quick.</text></item><item><author>jamestimmins</author><text>Whenever I see Repl product announcements, I&amp;#x27;m reminded of this quote from Paul Graham.&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;   If you want to take on a problem as big as the ones I&amp;#x27;ve discussed, 
   don&amp;#x27;t make a direct frontal attack on it. Don&amp;#x27;t say, for example, 
   that you&amp;#x27;re going to replace email. If you do that you raise too 
   many expectations. Your employees and investors will constantly be 
   asking &amp;quot;are we there yet?&amp;quot; and you&amp;#x27;ll have an army of haters waiting 
   to see you fail. Just say you&amp;#x27;re building todo-list software. That 
   sounds harmless. People can notice you&amp;#x27;ve replaced email when it&amp;#x27;s a 
   fait accompli.

&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
I wonder if there&amp;#x27;s something similar going on with Repl, and if so, what their end goal is.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Repl.it Database</title><url>https://blog.repl.it/database</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>Barrin92</author><text>At least at this point I don&amp;#x27;t think the craftsmen need to despair because I don&amp;#x27;t think the online IDE experience is even close to a good personal setup. It feels more like a solution for devices&amp;#x2F;locations where you quickly need to get an environment up, which has it&amp;#x27;s place obviously.</text><parent_chain><item><author>pampa</author><text>I just thought that i feel like a medieval guild craftsman must have felt during the industrial revolution. We did have all this sharp and complicated tools we installed and configured on our laptops ourselves, spent years in apprenticeship just to learn now to awk or exit vim. Passed the secret knowledge to our own padawans.&lt;p&gt;And now they are replacing it with what? An IDE in a browser??? that you can just point to and start writing code? just like that??? 8-)</text></item><item><author>jameslk</author><text>The end goal is to move the IDE and all development tooling to the cloud (similar to what GitHub Codespaces is trying to do). All editor defaults, build tools, linting, environment best practices, etc will be provided for you without all the ceremony of setting it up. This will make it easier for new team members to be productive from day 1 and it will allow you to have multiple development environments for each branch of work.&lt;p&gt;The realization is that if you control the development environment, by introducing seamless integrations with your hosting through things like easy-to-use databases (i.e. vendor lock-in), you also have control over the hosting of applications. That&amp;#x27;s a pretty lucrative business as we&amp;#x27;ve seen with AWS, GCP, Azure, etc.&lt;p&gt;Also, there&amp;#x27;s a trend towards low code&amp;#x2F;no code, so everything is becoming tiny microservices integrated with other SaaS solutions. Something like Repl.it can help you with the &amp;quot;last mile&amp;quot; of development work when you need build something lightweight and quick.</text></item><item><author>jamestimmins</author><text>Whenever I see Repl product announcements, I&amp;#x27;m reminded of this quote from Paul Graham.&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;   If you want to take on a problem as big as the ones I&amp;#x27;ve discussed, 
   don&amp;#x27;t make a direct frontal attack on it. Don&amp;#x27;t say, for example, 
   that you&amp;#x27;re going to replace email. If you do that you raise too 
   many expectations. Your employees and investors will constantly be 
   asking &amp;quot;are we there yet?&amp;quot; and you&amp;#x27;ll have an army of haters waiting 
   to see you fail. Just say you&amp;#x27;re building todo-list software. That 
   sounds harmless. People can notice you&amp;#x27;ve replaced email when it&amp;#x27;s a 
   fait accompli.

&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
I wonder if there&amp;#x27;s something similar going on with Repl, and if so, what their end goal is.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Repl.it Database</title><url>https://blog.repl.it/database</url></story>