<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>cromwellian</author><text>This is pretty sad, I had the pleasure of meeting Mark a few times when I was part of the Lemonade working group, he seemed like a very nice guy, energetic, unfazed by commercial interests, someone who stuck to his guns.&lt;p&gt;It reminds me of Jon Postel, in the sense that many of the core IETF people, those responsible for building the world as we know it, are getting old now, and some of them have already passed away.  Everyone remembers Steve Jobs, but the greater public at large is oblivious to people who have built even more important infrastructure.&lt;p&gt;I hope the history books of the future won&apos;t just jump from Edison and Westinghouse directly to Steve Jobs, but also remember those who did the massively important work done in between.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>News about Mark Crispin (author of the original IMAP specification)</title><url>https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/imap5/current/msg00571.html</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>ChuckMcM</author><text>This makes me sad. I&apos;m glad I got a chance to send him the PDP8 programming manuals while he could still enjoy them (about 10 years ago). I only met Mark at a conference on DEC hardware but engaged in several discussions on the INFO-MICRO mailing list. He was the only person I knew of who had a DEC2020 system in his garage.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>News about Mark Crispin (author of the original IMAP specification)</title><url>https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/imap5/current/msg00571.html</url></story>