<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>Cd00d</author><text>I think the current WFH and restrictions are especially hard on the sales teams. No more client dinners, golf, or travel for a demo, and it&amp;#x27;s much harder to make the relationship over phone or zoom. Plus, the handshake is missing.</text><parent_chain><item><author>formercoder</author><text>That’s not the only factor. I have a home office and can’t wait to get back. I work in an industry that’s all about relationships and those are hard to build remotely. I just started a new role and there’s no way I could ever progress upward in this state.</text></item><item><author>syshum</author><text>While everything you listed is a factor, My experience it normally comes down to if you have a actual home office or not.&lt;p&gt;People that have the luxury of a dedicated office at home, an actual room that is just used as an office, not a corner of the kitchen or living room that has the &amp;quot;family desk&amp;quot; that everyone shares, is more apt for WFH&lt;p&gt;I know many people that do not have this space, and do not have the ability to create this space in their home. For them WFH is a challenge.&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, people like myself that do have a dedicated office space that is in many ways better than the office space at the commercial office find WFH to be great and prefer it, even when factoring in your list.&lt;p&gt;In my office I would say it was about 60-70% of people that preferred working in the office and did not want to work from home primarily because they did not have a dedicated working space nor could easily create one.</text></item><item><author>mancerayder</author><text>This is a complicated problem with different perspectives that no doubt will get muddled at some point.  I&amp;#x27;m confident at least the following is true:&lt;p&gt;Some people have long commutes and wfh is great&lt;p&gt;Others have small, expensive apartments they paid for shorter commutes and it&amp;#x27;s suffocating 40-50 hours a week&lt;p&gt;Some people live in palaces and offices are a step down in comfort&lt;p&gt;Some people are happy with the online interactions&lt;p&gt;Some people are dissatisfied with the online interactions and prefer to talk to humans and not text strings from humans they can&amp;#x27;t see or hear&lt;p&gt;Some people want to work from home some of the time, and go to the office some of the time, and they&amp;#x27;ve wanted that before the apocalypse occurred (puts hand up)&lt;p&gt;Cities are nervous that business districts are devastated since no one buys coffee, lunches or walks home and steps into a shoe store or tailor, or to a bar for drinks with colleagues.&lt;p&gt;But like much else in our present world, things are presented in black and white, emotive ways.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Why do so many people want us back in the office?</title><url>https://paulitaylor.com/2020/09/12/why-do-so-many-people-want-us-back-in-the-office/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>mdoms</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t know why you&amp;#x27;re being downvoted. It&amp;#x27;s a valid opinion that I happen to share. I have a great home office but I still want to be around other humans.</text><parent_chain><item><author>formercoder</author><text>That’s not the only factor. I have a home office and can’t wait to get back. I work in an industry that’s all about relationships and those are hard to build remotely. I just started a new role and there’s no way I could ever progress upward in this state.</text></item><item><author>syshum</author><text>While everything you listed is a factor, My experience it normally comes down to if you have a actual home office or not.&lt;p&gt;People that have the luxury of a dedicated office at home, an actual room that is just used as an office, not a corner of the kitchen or living room that has the &amp;quot;family desk&amp;quot; that everyone shares, is more apt for WFH&lt;p&gt;I know many people that do not have this space, and do not have the ability to create this space in their home. For them WFH is a challenge.&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, people like myself that do have a dedicated office space that is in many ways better than the office space at the commercial office find WFH to be great and prefer it, even when factoring in your list.&lt;p&gt;In my office I would say it was about 60-70% of people that preferred working in the office and did not want to work from home primarily because they did not have a dedicated working space nor could easily create one.</text></item><item><author>mancerayder</author><text>This is a complicated problem with different perspectives that no doubt will get muddled at some point.  I&amp;#x27;m confident at least the following is true:&lt;p&gt;Some people have long commutes and wfh is great&lt;p&gt;Others have small, expensive apartments they paid for shorter commutes and it&amp;#x27;s suffocating 40-50 hours a week&lt;p&gt;Some people live in palaces and offices are a step down in comfort&lt;p&gt;Some people are happy with the online interactions&lt;p&gt;Some people are dissatisfied with the online interactions and prefer to talk to humans and not text strings from humans they can&amp;#x27;t see or hear&lt;p&gt;Some people want to work from home some of the time, and go to the office some of the time, and they&amp;#x27;ve wanted that before the apocalypse occurred (puts hand up)&lt;p&gt;Cities are nervous that business districts are devastated since no one buys coffee, lunches or walks home and steps into a shoe store or tailor, or to a bar for drinks with colleagues.&lt;p&gt;But like much else in our present world, things are presented in black and white, emotive ways.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Why do so many people want us back in the office?</title><url>https://paulitaylor.com/2020/09/12/why-do-so-many-people-want-us-back-in-the-office/</url></story>