<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>kstenerud</author><text>Definitely NOT Apple. Despite their open source site, the most important bits of the OS are closed, and so developers can&apos;t dig into the OS to figure out if the bizarre behavior they&apos;re seeing is a bug in the OS or not. Worse, they can&apos;t submit patches for things they do find. Instead, they have to go submit a radar report, which can&apos;t be seen by anyone but themselves. It&apos;s so bad that it has become common behavior to copy/paste the report to openradar and then have other developers submit duplicate reports as a way to &quot;upvote&quot; a bug. That is most definitely NOT developer friendly.&lt;p&gt;And then we have Xcode, the program that has inspired a twitter account dedicated to its severe brokenness.&lt;p&gt;And let&apos;s not forget their terrible provisioning process that always breaks in continuous integration systems, and the asinine limit of 100 test devices. Oh, and their train wreck of a command line tool suite.&lt;p&gt;And then there&apos;s their absolutely bizarre behavior of replacing every internal function name with &amp;#60;redacted&amp;#62;, and disabling stdout on iOS 6.&lt;p&gt;And then we have the &quot;eat all memory&quot; pager system in OSX that can chew through 8 gigs like candy and bring your system to its knees should you ever try to run more than 5 programs + Xcode.&lt;p&gt;If there were an iOS development environment + simulator for Ubuntu, I&apos;d wipe this laptop and switch over.</text><parent_chain><item><author>biturd</author><text>I think there is a company that does what you suggest. I will probably get down voted for saying it, but Apple. They put in the time to make a pretty darned good user experience for first impressions.&lt;p&gt;There&apos;s no junk, no spyware, nothing to remove. Occasionally you might get a software bundle, like Office, or Quicken, but literally just drop it in the trash and you are done with it. Rarely would you have to find an uninstaller or dig deep to remove something, and if you do, you generally brought it on yourself and should know what you are doing.&lt;p&gt;But you pay extra for this, most of which people apparently don&apos;t want to do, as I always hear &quot;I could have bought computer xyz for 25% cheaper&quot;, as they are finishing their 15 hours of cleanup.</text></item><item><author>ChuckMcM</author><text>I enjoyed this rant. The bottom line is that this &apos;experience&apos; isn&apos;t about you, its about who you can be sold too. That is because &quot;you&quot; are too cheap to pay what &quot;we&quot; think should be paid for them. It is like a hotel which sells you room for $100 a night if you agree to let them leave a web cam on 24/7 and sell any useful &apos;snippets&apos; it catches while you are there.&lt;p&gt;The bulk of the market doesn&apos;t buy &quot;computers&quot; they buy &quot;televisions.&quot; Think about that for a minute.&lt;p&gt;The bulk of the market are entertainment &apos;consumers&apos; for which you can sell access to their eyeballs for real money. Just like TV did before people got digital recorders and started skipping all the ads. Not so with these new fangled TVs, they don&apos;t care if you don&apos;t &lt;i&gt;look&lt;/i&gt; at their advertising they want to know what you did look at, and when, and after what, and then what did you do? Because all of that is much more valuable than putting up a tasty picture of a cheeseburger in front of you, no, they can phone ahead to your local market and tell them to stock up on cheeseburgers because you&apos;ve been researching them all day and are now at the point where you want to make a purchase.&lt;p&gt;But the cool thing? It means that the current &apos;big&apos; players are leaving the market for computers behind. You can tell that by the fact that the computer company no longer sells a product that a &lt;i&gt;developer&lt;/i&gt; would care to use. And that means that there is room again at the bottom.&lt;p&gt;Time to start a &apos;developers&apos; company that works very much on the same model that Sun Microsystems started on, hardware designed from the ground up to be developed on, open systems so that folks can easily work with it, and a team dedicated to making sure integration and support is there so that folks like you and I can say &quot;Hey this audio doesn&apos;t work when you set the sampling rate to 40Khz&quot; and they can fix it and release that fix.&lt;p&gt;But for that company to exist, you have to pay for the products you use, and to get to that point you have to not be able to get something &apos;good enough&apos; by hacking and slashing something else into shape.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>The amount of crap Windows users have to put up with is incredible</title><url>http://dendory.net/blog.php?id=509ec629</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>viraptor</author><text>I see you never needed quicktime on windows? Their download page asks you for the email to &quot;Keep me up to date with Apple news, software updates, and the latest information on products and services.&quot; Their privacy policy starts with:&lt;p&gt;&quot;You may be asked to provide your personal information anytime you are in contact with Apple or an Apple affiliated company. Apple and its affiliates may share this personal information with each other and use it consistent with this Privacy Policy. They may also combine it with other information to provide and improve our products, services, content, and advertising.&quot;&lt;p&gt;I don&apos;t think they&apos;re different from other companies at all.</text><parent_chain><item><author>biturd</author><text>I think there is a company that does what you suggest. I will probably get down voted for saying it, but Apple. They put in the time to make a pretty darned good user experience for first impressions.&lt;p&gt;There&apos;s no junk, no spyware, nothing to remove. Occasionally you might get a software bundle, like Office, or Quicken, but literally just drop it in the trash and you are done with it. Rarely would you have to find an uninstaller or dig deep to remove something, and if you do, you generally brought it on yourself and should know what you are doing.&lt;p&gt;But you pay extra for this, most of which people apparently don&apos;t want to do, as I always hear &quot;I could have bought computer xyz for 25% cheaper&quot;, as they are finishing their 15 hours of cleanup.</text></item><item><author>ChuckMcM</author><text>I enjoyed this rant. The bottom line is that this &apos;experience&apos; isn&apos;t about you, its about who you can be sold too. That is because &quot;you&quot; are too cheap to pay what &quot;we&quot; think should be paid for them. It is like a hotel which sells you room for $100 a night if you agree to let them leave a web cam on 24/7 and sell any useful &apos;snippets&apos; it catches while you are there.&lt;p&gt;The bulk of the market doesn&apos;t buy &quot;computers&quot; they buy &quot;televisions.&quot; Think about that for a minute.&lt;p&gt;The bulk of the market are entertainment &apos;consumers&apos; for which you can sell access to their eyeballs for real money. Just like TV did before people got digital recorders and started skipping all the ads. Not so with these new fangled TVs, they don&apos;t care if you don&apos;t &lt;i&gt;look&lt;/i&gt; at their advertising they want to know what you did look at, and when, and after what, and then what did you do? Because all of that is much more valuable than putting up a tasty picture of a cheeseburger in front of you, no, they can phone ahead to your local market and tell them to stock up on cheeseburgers because you&apos;ve been researching them all day and are now at the point where you want to make a purchase.&lt;p&gt;But the cool thing? It means that the current &apos;big&apos; players are leaving the market for computers behind. You can tell that by the fact that the computer company no longer sells a product that a &lt;i&gt;developer&lt;/i&gt; would care to use. And that means that there is room again at the bottom.&lt;p&gt;Time to start a &apos;developers&apos; company that works very much on the same model that Sun Microsystems started on, hardware designed from the ground up to be developed on, open systems so that folks can easily work with it, and a team dedicated to making sure integration and support is there so that folks like you and I can say &quot;Hey this audio doesn&apos;t work when you set the sampling rate to 40Khz&quot; and they can fix it and release that fix.&lt;p&gt;But for that company to exist, you have to pay for the products you use, and to get to that point you have to not be able to get something &apos;good enough&apos; by hacking and slashing something else into shape.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>The amount of crap Windows users have to put up with is incredible</title><url>http://dendory.net/blog.php?id=509ec629</url></story>