<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>jillesvangurp</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s because web developers are not great at sticking to conventions and standards for this stuff. Product owners and UX designers seem to ignore aligning their signup and signin UX with obvious requirements for enabling people to use a password manager. If they&amp;#x27;d make this a hard requirement, it would happen.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s not that hard even; we did that for our login form. Works great with Bitwarden. And on mobile too. But you have to know how to name things so that password managers can do their magic.&lt;p&gt;Frequent mistakes caused by essentially ignorance on this front:&lt;p&gt;- Splitting the email and password form across two screens. That somehow became fashionable. There are ways to do this and not break password managers. But why do this at all? Having to click the fill button twice is ugly and should be flagged as a bug if you ever see that. There&amp;#x27;s no need for that regardless of the UX.&lt;p&gt;- Having a login form but then not using field names like &amp;quot;email&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;password&amp;quot; that a password manager would recognize as such. There are a few more things you need to think about: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;hiddedevries.nl&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;blog&amp;#x2F;2018-01-13-making-password-managers-play-ball-with-your-login-form&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;hiddedevries.nl&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;blog&amp;#x2F;2018-01-13-making-password-m...&lt;/a&gt;. Just do it right.&lt;p&gt;- Not having password managers on the radar as a thing that the UX MUST support (not optional). Non technical people like designers and product owners tend to be a bit sloppy with their own security and they won&amp;#x27;t necessarily even be aware this is a thing that they need to worry about. So, they don&amp;#x27;t notice when it doesn&amp;#x27;t work. They probably don&amp;#x27;t even use a password manager themselves. And they certainly won&amp;#x27;t test it.&lt;p&gt;- Developers not caring enough to do anything about this unprompted; by e.g. just raising the topic with their PMs or just implementing things correctly to begin with. I&amp;#x27;ve actually brought up this topic and usually this is not controversial at all and simple to resolve.</text><parent_chain><item><author>skrebbel</author><text>I just switched to it from LastPass which, well, has &lt;i&gt;even worse&lt;/i&gt; UX in my opinion. It&amp;#x27;s an extremely low bar to clear and I agree Bitwarden is quirky too, but for me it&amp;#x27;s still firmly been an upgrade.&lt;p&gt;The only thing I miss is an &amp;quot;add to bitwarden?&amp;quot; dialog when I sign up somewhere. Their docs say it exists but I&amp;#x27;ve never managed to get it to appear :-)</text></item><item><author>neon_me</author><text>Love Bitwarden, I personally onboarded dozen … but they must heavily invest in UI&amp;#x2F;UX and fix their apps (+ extensions) It’s not easy and intuitive for non-techies.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager</title><url>https://bitwarden.com/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>NoboruWataya</author><text>&amp;gt; The only thing I miss is an &amp;quot;add to bitwarden?&amp;quot; dialog when I sign up somewhere. Their docs say it exists but I&amp;#x27;ve never managed to get it to appear :-)&lt;p&gt;I have seen this occasionally but it is fairly random and unreliable. And then sometimes it pops up for stuff I clearly don&amp;#x27;t want to save, like OTP.</text><parent_chain><item><author>skrebbel</author><text>I just switched to it from LastPass which, well, has &lt;i&gt;even worse&lt;/i&gt; UX in my opinion. It&amp;#x27;s an extremely low bar to clear and I agree Bitwarden is quirky too, but for me it&amp;#x27;s still firmly been an upgrade.&lt;p&gt;The only thing I miss is an &amp;quot;add to bitwarden?&amp;quot; dialog when I sign up somewhere. Their docs say it exists but I&amp;#x27;ve never managed to get it to appear :-)</text></item><item><author>neon_me</author><text>Love Bitwarden, I personally onboarded dozen … but they must heavily invest in UI&amp;#x2F;UX and fix their apps (+ extensions) It’s not easy and intuitive for non-techies.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager</title><url>https://bitwarden.com/</url></story>