<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>kiklion</author><text>Uh what?&lt;p&gt;Quick google shows that a Hyundai Ioniq gets around 4 miles per kWh. An average US household uses 886 kWh per month. You’d have to drive 3,500 miles a month to have the electric car use more energy than the entire household.&lt;p&gt;Yes, there is an energy cost in building the car, but there’s also an energy cost in building the refrigerator and dryer and washing machine etc in the house.&lt;p&gt;I’m sure some electric cars are worse than the Ioniq, but they’d have to be considerably worse to equal the energy used by a household.</text><parent_chain><item><author>_kulang</author><text>How about not driving a car absolutely everywhere? Even electric cars use many times more energy than an entire household. I already eat less meat than I used to but I cannot look past the obscenely high energy use of a car</text></item><item><author>myshpa</author><text>&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theguardian.com&amp;#x2F;environment&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;may&amp;#x2F;31&amp;#x2F;avoiding-meat-and-dairy-is-single-biggest-way-to-reduce-your-impact-on-earth&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theguardian.com&amp;#x2F;environment&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;may&amp;#x2F;31&amp;#x2F;avoiding...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Avoiding meat and dairy is ‘single biggest way’ to reduce your impact on Earth&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;journals.plos.org&amp;#x2F;climate&amp;#x2F;article?id=10.1371&amp;#x2F;journal.pclm.0000010&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;journals.plos.org&amp;#x2F;climate&amp;#x2F;article?id=10.1371&amp;#x2F;journal...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rapid global phaseout of animal agriculture has the potential to stabilize greenhouse gas levels for 30 years and offset 68 percent of CO2 emissions this century&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.colorado.edu&amp;#x2F;ecenter&amp;#x2F;2022&amp;#x2F;03&amp;#x2F;15&amp;#x2F;it-may-be-uncomfortable-we-need-talk-about-it-animal-agriculture-industry-and-zero-waste&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.colorado.edu&amp;#x2F;ecenter&amp;#x2F;2022&amp;#x2F;03&amp;#x2F;15&amp;#x2F;it-may-be-uncomf...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;The animal agriculture industry is the leading cause of most environmental degradation that is currently occurring.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;plantbasednews.org&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;plant-based-lifestyles-imperative-survival-climate-expert&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;plantbasednews.org&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;plant-based-lifestyles-imper...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Plant-Based Lifestyles Now ‘Imperative’ For Survival, IPCC Climate Expert Says&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.researchgate.net&amp;#x2F;publication&amp;#x2F;320356605_Agriculture_production_as_a_major_driver_of_the_Earth_system_exceeding_planetary_boundaries&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.researchgate.net&amp;#x2F;publication&amp;#x2F;320356605_Agricultu...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Agriculture production as a major driver of the Earth system exceeding planetary boundaries&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.commondreams.org&amp;#x2F;opinion&amp;#x2F;abandon-industrial-agriculture&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.commondreams.org&amp;#x2F;opinion&amp;#x2F;abandon-industrial-agri...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;We are in the middle of the sixth extinction with as many as 274 species going extinct every day—we have lost an average of 68% of all bird, fish, mammal, amphibian, and reptile species in the past 50 years—and the decline is continuing at more than one percentage point per year. Agriculture is the largest cause of these declines—86% of those species threatened—with animal agriculture (60%) the salient perpetrator.&amp;quot;</text></item><item><author>karles</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s hard not to feel a little apathetic about news like this.&lt;p&gt;I love my children, but I&amp;#x27;m not sure how I will be able to explain the world&amp;#x2F;my involvement in the world to them once they grow old (both are below 2 years as of today).&lt;p&gt;As an individual, I feel like I have no way of leaving the &amp;quot;rat race&amp;quot; while still being able to sustain our lives financially...</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>That’s a huge amount of energy being transferred to the atmosphere</title><url>https://twitter.com/drtels/status/1650562388377174020</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>OGWhales</author><text>Where I live currently, that’s simply infeasible. It’s a city, just very poor public transit and the city was designed without pedestrians or bikers in mind.&lt;p&gt;I hope to move soon, and being able to walk&amp;#x2F;bike&amp;#x2F;take public transit is a priority for where I choose, but it makes me think there are so many places in the US where going anywhere without a car is not a realistic option. Car dependency is a big issue in the US.</text><parent_chain><item><author>_kulang</author><text>How about not driving a car absolutely everywhere? Even electric cars use many times more energy than an entire household. I already eat less meat than I used to but I cannot look past the obscenely high energy use of a car</text></item><item><author>myshpa</author><text>&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theguardian.com&amp;#x2F;environment&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;may&amp;#x2F;31&amp;#x2F;avoiding-meat-and-dairy-is-single-biggest-way-to-reduce-your-impact-on-earth&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theguardian.com&amp;#x2F;environment&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;may&amp;#x2F;31&amp;#x2F;avoiding...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Avoiding meat and dairy is ‘single biggest way’ to reduce your impact on Earth&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;journals.plos.org&amp;#x2F;climate&amp;#x2F;article?id=10.1371&amp;#x2F;journal.pclm.0000010&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;journals.plos.org&amp;#x2F;climate&amp;#x2F;article?id=10.1371&amp;#x2F;journal...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rapid global phaseout of animal agriculture has the potential to stabilize greenhouse gas levels for 30 years and offset 68 percent of CO2 emissions this century&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.colorado.edu&amp;#x2F;ecenter&amp;#x2F;2022&amp;#x2F;03&amp;#x2F;15&amp;#x2F;it-may-be-uncomfortable-we-need-talk-about-it-animal-agriculture-industry-and-zero-waste&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.colorado.edu&amp;#x2F;ecenter&amp;#x2F;2022&amp;#x2F;03&amp;#x2F;15&amp;#x2F;it-may-be-uncomf...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;The animal agriculture industry is the leading cause of most environmental degradation that is currently occurring.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;plantbasednews.org&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;plant-based-lifestyles-imperative-survival-climate-expert&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;plantbasednews.org&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;plant-based-lifestyles-imper...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Plant-Based Lifestyles Now ‘Imperative’ For Survival, IPCC Climate Expert Says&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.researchgate.net&amp;#x2F;publication&amp;#x2F;320356605_Agriculture_production_as_a_major_driver_of_the_Earth_system_exceeding_planetary_boundaries&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.researchgate.net&amp;#x2F;publication&amp;#x2F;320356605_Agricultu...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Agriculture production as a major driver of the Earth system exceeding planetary boundaries&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.commondreams.org&amp;#x2F;opinion&amp;#x2F;abandon-industrial-agriculture&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.commondreams.org&amp;#x2F;opinion&amp;#x2F;abandon-industrial-agri...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;We are in the middle of the sixth extinction with as many as 274 species going extinct every day—we have lost an average of 68% of all bird, fish, mammal, amphibian, and reptile species in the past 50 years—and the decline is continuing at more than one percentage point per year. Agriculture is the largest cause of these declines—86% of those species threatened—with animal agriculture (60%) the salient perpetrator.&amp;quot;</text></item><item><author>karles</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s hard not to feel a little apathetic about news like this.&lt;p&gt;I love my children, but I&amp;#x27;m not sure how I will be able to explain the world&amp;#x2F;my involvement in the world to them once they grow old (both are below 2 years as of today).&lt;p&gt;As an individual, I feel like I have no way of leaving the &amp;quot;rat race&amp;quot; while still being able to sustain our lives financially...</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>That’s a huge amount of energy being transferred to the atmosphere</title><url>https://twitter.com/drtels/status/1650562388377174020</url></story>