<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>atoav</author><text>Law enforcement doesn’t seem to work then. On my German phone I received one (!) Spam call in 10 years, and that was a human who didn’t knew about the law and excused himself when I told him about it.&lt;p&gt;Sometimes I have the feeling that people in the US just accept a lot of what happens in their nation as unchangeable in a quite fatalistic way. Problems that are literally solved in nearly every other nation are frequently painted as unsolvable. Does this have to do with the role of the state?</text><parent_chain><item><author>Zarel</author><text>The worst phone spam is already illegal in the US. The problem is, in the current system, it&amp;#x27;s impossible to figure out who&amp;#x27;s doing it. That&amp;#x27;s one of the things STIR&amp;#x2F;SHAKEN is supposed to fix.</text></item><item><author>Barrin92</author><text>Instead of all these fancy technical counter-measures I think this really ought to be a matter of the law. Why not ban cold calls, like in Germany? Is there anyone on this planet who actually enjoys constant advertisement and harassment on their phone?&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;According to Sec. 7 (2) UWG; telephone calls to consumers for sales purposes are illegal if the calling company is not in possession of an explicit and effective declaration of consent by the consumer. If the call is made to another business, it is sufficient to prove presumptive consent.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Understanding STIR/SHAKEN – New Anti-Robocalling Protocol</title><url>https://transnexus.com/whitepapers/understanding-stir-shaken/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>tinus_hn</author><text>You can be 100% sure the billing system knows who’s paying for the call.</text><parent_chain><item><author>Zarel</author><text>The worst phone spam is already illegal in the US. The problem is, in the current system, it&amp;#x27;s impossible to figure out who&amp;#x27;s doing it. That&amp;#x27;s one of the things STIR&amp;#x2F;SHAKEN is supposed to fix.</text></item><item><author>Barrin92</author><text>Instead of all these fancy technical counter-measures I think this really ought to be a matter of the law. Why not ban cold calls, like in Germany? Is there anyone on this planet who actually enjoys constant advertisement and harassment on their phone?&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;According to Sec. 7 (2) UWG; telephone calls to consumers for sales purposes are illegal if the calling company is not in possession of an explicit and effective declaration of consent by the consumer. If the call is made to another business, it is sufficient to prove presumptive consent.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Understanding STIR/SHAKEN – New Anti-Robocalling Protocol</title><url>https://transnexus.com/whitepapers/understanding-stir-shaken/</url></story>