<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>mrguyorama</author><text>&amp;gt;I doubt any company would ignore that risk and produce a product that put people at a direct and unknown risk&lt;p&gt;Those companies did exactly that! Asbestos companies knew the dangers internally. It&amp;#x27;s no different than cigarette companies suppressing the science of how smoking is dangerous</text><parent_chain><item><author>dmix</author><text>It does say it&amp;#x27;s only being approved in special cases. I wouldn&amp;#x27;t expect the building industry to suddenly start using it again.&lt;p&gt;How many of those 3000 are a legacy of the previous eras misunderstanding of the chemical? I doubt any company would ignore that risk and produce a product that put people at a direct and unknown risk, especially given the legal liability since we now know the full risks of the chemical and the alternatives the market has long ago developed in every category.</text></item><item><author>nemacol</author><text>Having just lost a father-in-law to mesothelioma (June 2018), this makes me incredibly sad.&lt;p&gt;I understand this is not an actual rule change and blah blah blah. 3,000 people are diagnosed with mesothelioma each year.&lt;p&gt;What a slow and horrific way to go. Slowly losing your breath. Lungs filling with fluid and being rushed off to ER to drain. Endless breathing treatments. Never sleeping more than an hour without waking up coughing. I am sure many of you are aware the treatments can be just as painful as the illness itself.&lt;p&gt;The man I knew when through all of this and more spread over a decade. 2 lung lobectomy surgeries. Chemo. Radiation. Misc corrective surgeries. Not to mention the hassles of the American healthcare system, doctors, lawyers, bills, and enough paperwork to fill a small office building.&lt;p&gt;3000 people a year.&lt;p&gt;I can only understand new deployments of asbestos if they are...
&amp;quot;perfectly safe&amp;quot;
Saving thousands of lives
There is no alternative.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing</title><url>https://archpaper.com/2018/08/epa-asbestos-manufacturing/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>nemacol</author><text>The cases per year are going down and the average age of diagnosis is 69.  So you are right in that most of this is legacy.&lt;p&gt;But we know now and knew then that it was dangerous.&lt;p&gt;Much like the radium girls in the early 1900&amp;#x27;s - where the people delivering the paint would wear leaded protective equipment and then management would watch (and encourage) the girls lick the paint brushes to keep the tip pointed.  They knew it was bad. They just didn&amp;#x27;t give a fuck.</text><parent_chain><item><author>dmix</author><text>It does say it&amp;#x27;s only being approved in special cases. I wouldn&amp;#x27;t expect the building industry to suddenly start using it again.&lt;p&gt;How many of those 3000 are a legacy of the previous eras misunderstanding of the chemical? I doubt any company would ignore that risk and produce a product that put people at a direct and unknown risk, especially given the legal liability since we now know the full risks of the chemical and the alternatives the market has long ago developed in every category.</text></item><item><author>nemacol</author><text>Having just lost a father-in-law to mesothelioma (June 2018), this makes me incredibly sad.&lt;p&gt;I understand this is not an actual rule change and blah blah blah. 3,000 people are diagnosed with mesothelioma each year.&lt;p&gt;What a slow and horrific way to go. Slowly losing your breath. Lungs filling with fluid and being rushed off to ER to drain. Endless breathing treatments. Never sleeping more than an hour without waking up coughing. I am sure many of you are aware the treatments can be just as painful as the illness itself.&lt;p&gt;The man I knew when through all of this and more spread over a decade. 2 lung lobectomy surgeries. Chemo. Radiation. Misc corrective surgeries. Not to mention the hassles of the American healthcare system, doctors, lawyers, bills, and enough paperwork to fill a small office building.&lt;p&gt;3000 people a year.&lt;p&gt;I can only understand new deployments of asbestos if they are...
&amp;quot;perfectly safe&amp;quot;
Saving thousands of lives
There is no alternative.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing</title><url>https://archpaper.com/2018/08/epa-asbestos-manufacturing/</url></story>