<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>endorphone</author><text>&amp;quot;It&amp;#x27;s a trope that Nuclear is failing because of fearmongering.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I think it&amp;#x27;s a large scale astroturfing effort by the nuclear industry (which is huge, with a very small number of players) and the useful rubes who play along.&lt;p&gt;Nuclear may be a necessary part of the grid mix, but the panacea presented has never remotely been close to reality -- every build takes much longer than promised, and always, with 100% certainty, costs billions more than planned. Every build has maintenance that costs multiples of the claims, operation that is far more expensive, and with waste products that there is still no viable solution for, with an eternity of costs dragging them down. And nuclear only exists because the public subsidizes it by eschewing the need for real insurance (which would be prohibitively expensive otherwise).&lt;p&gt;In every economic sense nuclear has been an enormous boondoggle, and they stopped making them because every energy provider got wise. This has nothing to do with fearmongering or some sort of ignorant public -- quite the contrary, the overwhelming public sentiment had no problem with nuclear -- though that claim frequently appears. It&amp;#x27;s bizarre.</text><parent_chain><item><author>dv_dt</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s a trope that Nuclear is failing because of fearmongering. Nuclear is uneconomical, especially with renewable energy dropping in cost consistently. Is France, the long time operator of one of the largest fleets, afraid of nuclear - I think it is very experienced at managing nuclear, both old gen and the very newest gen reactors. And yet this article:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;articles&amp;#x2F;2018-12-10&amp;#x2F;french-power-costs-will-rise-if-renewables-are-sidestepped&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;articles&amp;#x2F;2018-12-10&amp;#x2F;french-po...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;France will save 39 billion euros ($44.5 billion) if it refrains from building 15 new nuclear plants by 2060, and bets instead on renewable energy sources to replace its all its aging atomic facilities, a government agency said.&lt;p&gt;France should spend 1.28 trillion euros over the next four decades, mostly on clean power production and storage capacities, networks, and imports, according to a report from the country’s environment ministry. If it does this, France would progressively shut down its 58 atomic plants and renewable energy would comprise 95 percent of its electricity output by 2060, up from 17 percent last year</text></item><item><author>Alupis</author><text>&amp;gt; I’ll admire it when the fuel is loaded and the generators spin up&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile, the United States continues to shut down Nuclear Reactors and prevent modern constructions out of irrational fearmongering.&lt;p&gt;At least India recognizes the benefits of Nuclear Power...</text></item><item><author>toomuchtodo</author><text>I’ll admire it when the fuel is loaded and the generators spin up. Until then, it’s PR, not energy policy.&lt;p&gt;Aspiration alone is no different than failure.</text></item><item><author>elsonrodriguez</author><text>&amp;gt; India plans to triple its nuclear capacity by 2024 to wean Asia&amp;#x27;s third-largest economy off polluting fossil fuels.&lt;p&gt;One has to admire the no-nonsense problem solving happening here.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>US to build six nuclear power plants in India</title><url>https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/03/build-nuclear-power-plants-india-190314072408714.html</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>roenxi</author><text>I have issues using French costings because I can&amp;#x27;t read the primary sources, and there are a lot of stupid environmentalists out there who misrepresent the costs. I&amp;#x27;m going to commit the same sin and point out that people are willing to claim &amp;#x27;renewables in Germany are pulling down wholesale prices!&amp;#x27; and ignore the fact that their retail prices are amongst the highest in Europe because they are charging a massive renewable-support tariff.&lt;p&gt;The experience in Australia is nobody has considered nuclear because one political party (labour) has historically had a policy of banning the technology. The economics of the costs have never been tested because of the hysterical response to radiation risk. I suspect if it was regulated to the same safety standards as solar it would be very cost-competitive indeed.</text><parent_chain><item><author>dv_dt</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s a trope that Nuclear is failing because of fearmongering. Nuclear is uneconomical, especially with renewable energy dropping in cost consistently. Is France, the long time operator of one of the largest fleets, afraid of nuclear - I think it is very experienced at managing nuclear, both old gen and the very newest gen reactors. And yet this article:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;articles&amp;#x2F;2018-12-10&amp;#x2F;french-power-costs-will-rise-if-renewables-are-sidestepped&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;articles&amp;#x2F;2018-12-10&amp;#x2F;french-po...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;France will save 39 billion euros ($44.5 billion) if it refrains from building 15 new nuclear plants by 2060, and bets instead on renewable energy sources to replace its all its aging atomic facilities, a government agency said.&lt;p&gt;France should spend 1.28 trillion euros over the next four decades, mostly on clean power production and storage capacities, networks, and imports, according to a report from the country’s environment ministry. If it does this, France would progressively shut down its 58 atomic plants and renewable energy would comprise 95 percent of its electricity output by 2060, up from 17 percent last year</text></item><item><author>Alupis</author><text>&amp;gt; I’ll admire it when the fuel is loaded and the generators spin up&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile, the United States continues to shut down Nuclear Reactors and prevent modern constructions out of irrational fearmongering.&lt;p&gt;At least India recognizes the benefits of Nuclear Power...</text></item><item><author>toomuchtodo</author><text>I’ll admire it when the fuel is loaded and the generators spin up. Until then, it’s PR, not energy policy.&lt;p&gt;Aspiration alone is no different than failure.</text></item><item><author>elsonrodriguez</author><text>&amp;gt; India plans to triple its nuclear capacity by 2024 to wean Asia&amp;#x27;s third-largest economy off polluting fossil fuels.&lt;p&gt;One has to admire the no-nonsense problem solving happening here.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>US to build six nuclear power plants in India</title><url>https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/03/build-nuclear-power-plants-india-190314072408714.html</url></story>