<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>nobleach</author><text>This is a cycle we can expect for any platform that has the bills. Hosting is not free. Storage is not free. Bandwidth is not free. Labor to fix bugs and develop features is not free. So this constant expectation that it should all be free (or even cheap) is not a realistic world view. We joke about the fact that &amp;quot;the cloud&amp;quot; isn&amp;#x27;t real, it&amp;#x27;s just someone else&amp;#x27;s computer. But isn&amp;#x27;t that kinda the basis of the current delusion? &amp;quot;We want to have complete freedom, be completely safe, get the features we want, have it for free and... don&amp;#x27;t bother me with any advertisement&amp;quot;.</text><parent_chain><item><author>ornornor</author><text>&amp;gt; Discord, for its faults, does not have the same issues.&lt;p&gt;Yet. Reddit was a friend when Digg died. Any closed platform can do whatever they want whenever they want and as soon as they decide to start making money. I wouldn’t trust discord to not pull a Reddit in a few years.&lt;p&gt;Not. Your. Platform. Not. Your. Content.</text></item><item><author>CamelCaseName</author><text>This whole thing has been about:&lt;p&gt;[1] Reddit not building the needed tools for its free labor and relying on third parties to do it for them, then taking those tools away without providing another option&lt;p&gt;[2] Disrespecting moderators and powerusers by insulting them (&amp;quot;landed gentry&amp;quot;), creating incentives for them to scab on each other, and being threatening and doublehanded at every turn, if not outright lying.&lt;p&gt;[3] A decade of broken promises on feature development, trust n safety failures, half baked features that no one asked for that end up shut down.&lt;p&gt;[4] Breaking the illusion that users ever owned their data (posts, comments) and communities.&lt;p&gt;Not all these reasons apply to everyone, but at least one of them applies to most people protesting.&lt;p&gt;Reddit has built up so much bad will. They could have been a great steward of the internet (and made money doing it!), but instead they decided to attack their community of moderators (the same insult they hurl at moderators, saying they are attacking their community of users!)&lt;p&gt;Discord, for its faults, does not have the same issues.</text></item><item><author>c-fe</author><text>Its beyond me why one would move away from Reddit due to changes in the API pricing making it hard (but not impossible) for 3rd party apps  ... to discord, which is completely closed off and allows no 3rd party apps? Even worse, content on discord wont be visible on search engines.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Sub.Rehab – See where Reddit communities have relocated</title><url>https://sub.rehab/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>mistermann</author><text>&amp;gt; Reddit was a friend when Digg died. Any closed platform can do whatever they want whenever they want and as soon as they decide to start making money.&lt;p&gt;Who was running Reddit back then?&lt;p&gt;Leadership matters.  Take climate change for example, or anything really.</text><parent_chain><item><author>ornornor</author><text>&amp;gt; Discord, for its faults, does not have the same issues.&lt;p&gt;Yet. Reddit was a friend when Digg died. Any closed platform can do whatever they want whenever they want and as soon as they decide to start making money. I wouldn’t trust discord to not pull a Reddit in a few years.&lt;p&gt;Not. Your. Platform. Not. Your. Content.</text></item><item><author>CamelCaseName</author><text>This whole thing has been about:&lt;p&gt;[1] Reddit not building the needed tools for its free labor and relying on third parties to do it for them, then taking those tools away without providing another option&lt;p&gt;[2] Disrespecting moderators and powerusers by insulting them (&amp;quot;landed gentry&amp;quot;), creating incentives for them to scab on each other, and being threatening and doublehanded at every turn, if not outright lying.&lt;p&gt;[3] A decade of broken promises on feature development, trust n safety failures, half baked features that no one asked for that end up shut down.&lt;p&gt;[4] Breaking the illusion that users ever owned their data (posts, comments) and communities.&lt;p&gt;Not all these reasons apply to everyone, but at least one of them applies to most people protesting.&lt;p&gt;Reddit has built up so much bad will. They could have been a great steward of the internet (and made money doing it!), but instead they decided to attack their community of moderators (the same insult they hurl at moderators, saying they are attacking their community of users!)&lt;p&gt;Discord, for its faults, does not have the same issues.</text></item><item><author>c-fe</author><text>Its beyond me why one would move away from Reddit due to changes in the API pricing making it hard (but not impossible) for 3rd party apps  ... to discord, which is completely closed off and allows no 3rd party apps? Even worse, content on discord wont be visible on search engines.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Sub.Rehab – See where Reddit communities have relocated</title><url>https://sub.rehab/</url></story>