<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>cogman10</author><text>The reason is $$$&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately, USB has more features than USB manufactures want to support.  So, the end result is a bunch of those features are optional.  That complicates everything.  Is this a USB-C cable that can support PD 3.1?  Who knows!  Because, not all USB-C cables NEED to support PD 3.1, some of them just need to transmit data at USB 2.0 speeds.  Those can be made super cheap.&lt;p&gt;This is especially bad when talking about things like devices.  Sure, every device now-a-days has the USB-C connector, but does your phone really need to be capable of doing 80gbps on that port?  Nope, so it&amp;#x27;s optional. (and would be sold, rightly so, as a power saving measure).&lt;p&gt;Every USB feature has a fast, cheap, low power tradeoff going on and the standard allows for you to mix and match features to your heart&amp;#x27;s content.</text><parent_chain><item><author>bastawhiz</author><text>Is there a reason (other than design by committee) that USB is so complicated? You need to have the right kinds of connectors, cables, and device support. The speeds you get vary for any number of reasons. Why didn&amp;#x27;t someone just say &amp;quot;all the cables are fast and charge good and if you want slow or bad, use old USB&amp;quot;? It seems we&amp;#x27;ve found the worst possible situation, where consumers don&amp;#x27;t understand what they need or can use or why, and instead of making it easier, we get the second version of the fourth version which has multiple versions that all do different things under different circumstances.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>USB4 v2 is also 120 Gbps</title><url>https://www.angstronomics.com/p/usb4-v2</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>sharikous</author><text>Certified Thunderbolt 4 called are available and the fastest and most compatible you can get.&lt;p&gt;Expensive but reliable.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t understand all this hate for USB. Sure the labeling could be better but having a standard that is basically back compatible all the way to the nineties and now a single multipurpose port for charging&amp;#x2F;storage&amp;#x2F;displays&amp;#x2F;devices is a nice feat.</text><parent_chain><item><author>bastawhiz</author><text>Is there a reason (other than design by committee) that USB is so complicated? You need to have the right kinds of connectors, cables, and device support. The speeds you get vary for any number of reasons. Why didn&amp;#x27;t someone just say &amp;quot;all the cables are fast and charge good and if you want slow or bad, use old USB&amp;quot;? It seems we&amp;#x27;ve found the worst possible situation, where consumers don&amp;#x27;t understand what they need or can use or why, and instead of making it easier, we get the second version of the fourth version which has multiple versions that all do different things under different circumstances.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>USB4 v2 is also 120 Gbps</title><url>https://www.angstronomics.com/p/usb4-v2</url></story>