<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>sulam</author><text>Sorry, this is totally not true. It&amp;#x27;s harder to DRIVE to the East Bay than to arbitrary points south (not Palo Alto), but public transit is generally much better to the East Bay. And most of the driving congestion is simply getting onto the bridge, which I admit is non-trivial (especially with Giants day games thrown into the mix), but once you&amp;#x27;re on the bridge it&amp;#x27;s markedly better than 101 and roughly the same as 280. 280 is still a prettier drive, though!</text><parent_chain><item><author>scythe</author><text>Bridge traffic + BART congestion means that it&amp;#x27;s easier for me as a resident of San Francisco to visit Palo Alto than Oakland.&lt;p&gt;Maybe not how it should be, but certainly how it is; with a new Bay crossing slated for 2040 at the earliest it&amp;#x27;ll be like that for a while.</text></item><item><author>JumpCrisscross</author><text>Same thing happens in New York with the Bronx and New Jersey. I think there&amp;#x27;s a psychological stopping power to water that makes Palo Alto and San Francisco seem closer than Oakland (or the Upper West Side feel closer to Flatiron than New Jersey).</text></item><item><author>santaclaus</author><text>I have friends who have lived in a San Francisco (and Berkeley!) for years who are too sketched out to visit Oakland, weirdly.</text></item><item><author>austenallred</author><text>And Oakland is nonexistent entirely!</text></item><item><author>rdl</author><text>Hard not to LOL at SF and Silicon Valley being treated as separate markets for funding.  For extremely local services, sure (like dry cleaning or a coffeeshop), they&amp;#x27;re different markets. Maybe even for a daily-commute job (although that&amp;#x27;s debatable).  For fund raising, I don&amp;#x27;t think there&amp;#x27;s anyone unwilling to Uber&amp;#x2F;drive&amp;#x2F;BART&amp;#x2F;caltrain an extra 20 miles for $1mm to $1b in funding.  You meet investors monthly at most, and more likely quarterly or annually.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>San Francisco&apos;s VC Boom Is Over</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-07-16/san-francisco-s-vc-boom-is-over?utm_source=yahoo&amp;utm_medium=bd&amp;utm_campaign=headline&amp;trackingId=yhoo.headline&amp;yptr=yahoo</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>russell_h</author><text>At what time of day? Currently Google maps shows a 20 minute drive from SOMA to downtown Oakland vs 40 minutes to PA. If you&amp;#x27;re trying to use public transit obviously the difference will be even greater.</text><parent_chain><item><author>scythe</author><text>Bridge traffic + BART congestion means that it&amp;#x27;s easier for me as a resident of San Francisco to visit Palo Alto than Oakland.&lt;p&gt;Maybe not how it should be, but certainly how it is; with a new Bay crossing slated for 2040 at the earliest it&amp;#x27;ll be like that for a while.</text></item><item><author>JumpCrisscross</author><text>Same thing happens in New York with the Bronx and New Jersey. I think there&amp;#x27;s a psychological stopping power to water that makes Palo Alto and San Francisco seem closer than Oakland (or the Upper West Side feel closer to Flatiron than New Jersey).</text></item><item><author>santaclaus</author><text>I have friends who have lived in a San Francisco (and Berkeley!) for years who are too sketched out to visit Oakland, weirdly.</text></item><item><author>austenallred</author><text>And Oakland is nonexistent entirely!</text></item><item><author>rdl</author><text>Hard not to LOL at SF and Silicon Valley being treated as separate markets for funding.  For extremely local services, sure (like dry cleaning or a coffeeshop), they&amp;#x27;re different markets. Maybe even for a daily-commute job (although that&amp;#x27;s debatable).  For fund raising, I don&amp;#x27;t think there&amp;#x27;s anyone unwilling to Uber&amp;#x2F;drive&amp;#x2F;BART&amp;#x2F;caltrain an extra 20 miles for $1mm to $1b in funding.  You meet investors monthly at most, and more likely quarterly or annually.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>San Francisco&apos;s VC Boom Is Over</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-07-16/san-francisco-s-vc-boom-is-over?utm_source=yahoo&amp;utm_medium=bd&amp;utm_campaign=headline&amp;trackingId=yhoo.headline&amp;yptr=yahoo</url></story>