<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>rtkwe</author><text>I find people have wildly differing opinions on what normal wear and tear on phone is so it&amp;#x27;s hard to judge from anecdotes if it&amp;#x27;s a build quality issue or if they&amp;#x27;re rough on their phones or on the other side if I&amp;#x27;m personally very delicate with my phones.&lt;p&gt;For my contribution to this anecdata the only Pixel phone I&amp;#x27;ve had die is my Pixel 3 XL that started having weird charging issues and refuses to turn on and charge unless I let it completely passively drain then recharge it after that it only works for a bit, that happened after about 2 years maybe. Tried having it looked at by uBreakIFix and they had nothing. Other than that my Pixel 6 is doing great but I keep it in a case 99% of the time and don&amp;#x27;t abuse it.</text><parent_chain><item><author>kelnos</author><text>Would you still be with it, though?  Someone upthread claims the phones just don&amp;#x27;t last.  Maybe if you hadn&amp;#x27;t broken your phones, they still wouldn&amp;#x27;t&amp;#x27;ve lasted much longer anyway.&lt;p&gt;Having said that, I&amp;#x27;m still using my 4-year-old Pixel 4, and it&amp;#x27;s in great shape.  I&amp;#x27;ll probably get a new phone this year since it&amp;#x27;s no longer receiving security updates.  Which is stupid, because I&amp;#x27;m otherwise perfectly happy with the phone.  And hate that they get physically larger every year.</text></item><item><author>thefz</author><text>&amp;gt; Don&amp;#x27;t you think that three phones in six years is the issue?&lt;p&gt;One (P3) ended with me having it in the back pocket of my jeans and literally jumping in the backseat... yeah, not smart.&lt;p&gt;Another (P4a), I tried to open to swap a new battery in and it did not end well. I&amp;#x27;d still happily be with the 4a if it was not for my dumb self. It&amp;#x27;s perfectly working and I use it to listen to some music while biking or at the gym. I just did not reattach the speaker cable.</text></item><item><author>vetinari</author><text>&amp;gt; I am at my third Pixel phone in six years and I never had an issue.&lt;p&gt;Don&amp;#x27;t you think that three phones in six years &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; the issue?&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m still on 2019 Galaxy S10, i.e. fourth year, single phone. The hardware is still in great condition, no malfunction of anything.</text></item><item><author>thefz</author><text>&amp;gt; My experience with my own pixel 7 pro and a pixel 5 has been that these devices are an order of magnitude lower in build quality than Samsung or iPhones.&lt;p&gt;Subjective, I am at my third Pixel phone in six years and I never had an issue.</text></item><item><author>Alacart</author><text>My experience with my own pixel 7 pro and a pixel 5 has been that these devices are an order of magnitude lower in build quality than Samsung or iPhones. I really, really wanted to be happy with them but they&amp;#x27;ve been a never ending source of frustration.&lt;p&gt;My pixel 5 just stopped turning on one day about 2 years in, and my pixel 7 pro had the volume and power buttons fall out about 3 weeks in (not due to a drop, after googling it&amp;#x27;s apparently a very widely seen issue).&lt;p&gt;The service with iFixit was unhelpful, they told me &amp;quot;We keep seeing this and Google says this is wear and tear. We can&amp;#x27;t submit it for a warranty repair, and if we try we end up eating the cost&amp;quot;. After finally complaining on twitter I was contacted by some support person who said to give iFixit this email and they would fix it. They still refused, and after a few more rounds of interactions like that I eventually bought some replacement buttons on Amazon, popped them in, and put a case that covers them on it. I&amp;#x27;m fully expecting this to randomly die some time before 2 years is up.&lt;p&gt;Combine that with Google&amp;#x27;s extremely strong tendency to abandon everything, promises like these seem well, worthless.&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile my daughter is using my wife&amp;#x27;s old iPhone from 8 years ago. My Samsung note 3 and my s8 still boot up and work just fine (though I cracked the screen on one about 5 years ago). It&amp;#x27;s just so obvious that these phones are very low priority to Google, while other companies base their business around their phones.</text></item><item><author>andrewstuart2</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m really glad to see both the partnership with iFixit and the 7 years of support. Because everything else seems mostly meh to me, and while I&amp;#x27;m upgrading this year from a Pixel 6 Pro, the continued diminished returns make it seem likely that 2-3 years from now I won&amp;#x27;t have as much reason to.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Pixel 8 Pro</title><url>https://store.google.com/product/pixel_8_pro?hl=en-US</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>rezonant</author><text>For fun today I booted up my Pixel 3 XL and it works just fine. It was slow at first, probably as it synced a bunch of stuff, but after that it was about as snappy and useful as I remember it. Everything still works. I used that for 3 years before the Pixel 6 Pro. Before that I had a Pixel XL for 3 years. I still have that phone too in my device collection.&lt;p&gt;But the lack of security updates makes the XL and the 3XL, though still functioning as expected, not acceptable. This thing has far too much access to my life to actively use it on the Internet every day.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m getting the Pixel 8 not because the 6 Pro has any problems (personally I&amp;#x27;ve had none), but rather because I have a bit more disposable income to spend on my tech enthusiasm and I&amp;#x27;m excited about a phone with a 7 year software support window (with incidental coverage to support 5 years of accidental damage). If all goes well, I hope to take advantage of more than 3 years of that, assuming some insane new development doesn&amp;#x27;t happen in the interim.</text><parent_chain><item><author>kelnos</author><text>Would you still be with it, though?  Someone upthread claims the phones just don&amp;#x27;t last.  Maybe if you hadn&amp;#x27;t broken your phones, they still wouldn&amp;#x27;t&amp;#x27;ve lasted much longer anyway.&lt;p&gt;Having said that, I&amp;#x27;m still using my 4-year-old Pixel 4, and it&amp;#x27;s in great shape.  I&amp;#x27;ll probably get a new phone this year since it&amp;#x27;s no longer receiving security updates.  Which is stupid, because I&amp;#x27;m otherwise perfectly happy with the phone.  And hate that they get physically larger every year.</text></item><item><author>thefz</author><text>&amp;gt; Don&amp;#x27;t you think that three phones in six years is the issue?&lt;p&gt;One (P3) ended with me having it in the back pocket of my jeans and literally jumping in the backseat... yeah, not smart.&lt;p&gt;Another (P4a), I tried to open to swap a new battery in and it did not end well. I&amp;#x27;d still happily be with the 4a if it was not for my dumb self. It&amp;#x27;s perfectly working and I use it to listen to some music while biking or at the gym. I just did not reattach the speaker cable.</text></item><item><author>vetinari</author><text>&amp;gt; I am at my third Pixel phone in six years and I never had an issue.&lt;p&gt;Don&amp;#x27;t you think that three phones in six years &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; the issue?&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m still on 2019 Galaxy S10, i.e. fourth year, single phone. The hardware is still in great condition, no malfunction of anything.</text></item><item><author>thefz</author><text>&amp;gt; My experience with my own pixel 7 pro and a pixel 5 has been that these devices are an order of magnitude lower in build quality than Samsung or iPhones.&lt;p&gt;Subjective, I am at my third Pixel phone in six years and I never had an issue.</text></item><item><author>Alacart</author><text>My experience with my own pixel 7 pro and a pixel 5 has been that these devices are an order of magnitude lower in build quality than Samsung or iPhones. I really, really wanted to be happy with them but they&amp;#x27;ve been a never ending source of frustration.&lt;p&gt;My pixel 5 just stopped turning on one day about 2 years in, and my pixel 7 pro had the volume and power buttons fall out about 3 weeks in (not due to a drop, after googling it&amp;#x27;s apparently a very widely seen issue).&lt;p&gt;The service with iFixit was unhelpful, they told me &amp;quot;We keep seeing this and Google says this is wear and tear. We can&amp;#x27;t submit it for a warranty repair, and if we try we end up eating the cost&amp;quot;. After finally complaining on twitter I was contacted by some support person who said to give iFixit this email and they would fix it. They still refused, and after a few more rounds of interactions like that I eventually bought some replacement buttons on Amazon, popped them in, and put a case that covers them on it. I&amp;#x27;m fully expecting this to randomly die some time before 2 years is up.&lt;p&gt;Combine that with Google&amp;#x27;s extremely strong tendency to abandon everything, promises like these seem well, worthless.&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile my daughter is using my wife&amp;#x27;s old iPhone from 8 years ago. My Samsung note 3 and my s8 still boot up and work just fine (though I cracked the screen on one about 5 years ago). It&amp;#x27;s just so obvious that these phones are very low priority to Google, while other companies base their business around their phones.</text></item><item><author>andrewstuart2</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m really glad to see both the partnership with iFixit and the 7 years of support. Because everything else seems mostly meh to me, and while I&amp;#x27;m upgrading this year from a Pixel 6 Pro, the continued diminished returns make it seem likely that 2-3 years from now I won&amp;#x27;t have as much reason to.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Pixel 8 Pro</title><url>https://store.google.com/product/pixel_8_pro?hl=en-US</url></story>