<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>ollien</author><text>Both of the companies I&amp;#x27;ve worked at have given me an offer prior to a background check, and included a clause that the offer could be terminated if I failed it.</text><parent_chain><item><author>htrp</author><text>In most companies with apparently functioning HR, you don&amp;#x27;t get a written offer until after the reference&amp;#x2F;bg check clears. Your verbal is what gets you to provide those reference&amp;#x2F;bg check authorizations.&lt;p&gt;This is like HR 101</text></item><item><author>hyperpape</author><text>Some people are getting side-tracked asking if this is a common problem. I think that&amp;#x27;s a distraction: the right number of rescinded offers to engineers and other individual contributors is 0.[0]&lt;p&gt;If the actual number of candidates affected is small, then it would be cheap to make it right for them. You could find a team that can take the engineer (we&amp;#x27;re not interchangeable parts, but Stripe is a big company), and&amp;#x2F;or offer monetary compensation for the opportunity cost.&lt;p&gt;[0] I&amp;#x27;ll reserve judgment about higher level management. I don&amp;#x27;t know if the norms and circumstances are different. Obviously this also excludes failed background checks, candidates being dishonest, etc, etc.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers</title><url>https://www.protocol.com/workplace/stripe-hiring-issues-rescinded-jobs</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>the_jeremy</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t agree. All of my written offers have been before bg check clears. I&amp;#x27;ve always signed the offer and background check paperwork in the same set of paperwork.</text><parent_chain><item><author>htrp</author><text>In most companies with apparently functioning HR, you don&amp;#x27;t get a written offer until after the reference&amp;#x2F;bg check clears. Your verbal is what gets you to provide those reference&amp;#x2F;bg check authorizations.&lt;p&gt;This is like HR 101</text></item><item><author>hyperpape</author><text>Some people are getting side-tracked asking if this is a common problem. I think that&amp;#x27;s a distraction: the right number of rescinded offers to engineers and other individual contributors is 0.[0]&lt;p&gt;If the actual number of candidates affected is small, then it would be cheap to make it right for them. You could find a team that can take the engineer (we&amp;#x27;re not interchangeable parts, but Stripe is a big company), and&amp;#x2F;or offer monetary compensation for the opportunity cost.&lt;p&gt;[0] I&amp;#x27;ll reserve judgment about higher level management. I don&amp;#x27;t know if the norms and circumstances are different. Obviously this also excludes failed background checks, candidates being dishonest, etc, etc.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers</title><url>https://www.protocol.com/workplace/stripe-hiring-issues-rescinded-jobs</url></story>