<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>tptacek</author><text>Counterpoint:&lt;p&gt;In the history of the industry no mass-market computing platform has been safer than the flagship hardware&amp;#x2F;software platforms from Apple and Google --- on no platform does an exploitable vulnerability cost more to obtain, and no platforms have ever been more capable of establishing secure channels between themselves.&lt;p&gt;SS7 is insecure. But operational practices at both the carriers and inside governments rely on those insecurities to get jobs done, and some of those jobs are important and enjoy wide support. Anything we do to shore up the security of SS7 will, almost necessarily, include compromises most of us here will find hateful, and we&amp;#x27;ll be stuck with those compromises for another generation.&lt;p&gt;Rather than &amp;quot;fixing the potholes&amp;quot; in GSM and SS7, we could instead accept that the cell signaling layer is insecure, and route around those weaknesses with application code that can establish end-to-end secure channels accountable only to their users. That&amp;#x27;s pretty close to what Apple has already done with SMS text messaging, which opportunistically upgrades to Apple&amp;#x27;s secure iMessage protocol. We can do even better than that!&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s what we&amp;#x27;ve done with the Internet, where this approach is called &amp;quot;the end to end argument in system design&amp;quot;. It worked there and will work just as well for telephony.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Our Cellphones Aren&apos;t Safe</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/26/opinion/cellphones-security-spying.html</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>lwansbrough</author><text>Imagine a service where you type in a phone number, and it used the GPS location data sold by cellular providers to obtain the physical location of the phone number. It would then autonomously fly a drone near the GPS location of that device and use an onboard cell-site spoofer to intercept data from that device.&lt;p&gt;That’s all possible today.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Our Cellphones Aren&apos;t Safe</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/26/opinion/cellphones-security-spying.html</url></story>