<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>Houshalter</author><text>To be fair there are a lot of possible systems from which you could derive infinite complexity. There are an infinite number of true statements that can be discovered after all. Most are not particularly interesting or useful. You could come up with proofs for more and more specific behaviors that occur in turing machines under specific conditions. Or cellular automata. Or any number of arbitrary systems. But most wouldn&apos;t be relevant to the real world. The cool thing about numbers is that there are a lot of possible applications to the real world. But there are also an infinite number of trails you could follow with mathematics that lead nowhere useful at all.&lt;p&gt;Automated Mathematician tried to explore mathematics and find interesting concepts the same way mathematicians do and using similar heuristics. And it got fairly far, discovering numbers and primes and Goldbach&apos;s conjecture. But eventually it just started discovering useless concepts which had no apparent relevance to anything and were pointlessly complex or specific.</text><parent_chain><item><author>danbruc</author><text>It is absolutely mind-blowing how much time and passion humans have invested in understanding the consequences of nine simple statements...and how hard they resist against unveiling their secrets.&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;  0∈ℕ
  ∀x∈ℕ:S(x)∈ℕ
  ∀x∈ℕ:S(x)≠0
  ∀x,y∈ℕ:S(x)=S(y) ⇒ x=y
  0∈X∧∀x∈ℕ:(x∈X ⇒ S(x)∈X) ⇒ ℕ⊆X
  x + 0 := x
  x + S(y) := S(x + y)
  x · 0 := 0
  x · S(y) := x · y + x

&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
These are the Peano axioms [1] defining the natural numbers with addition and multiplication. And for at least 3000 years humans are tying to figure out properties of these natural numbers, all consequences of these definition, and the end is not in sight.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peano_axioms&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peano_axioms&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Every odd number greater than five is the sum of three primes</title><url>https://plus.google.com/114134834346472219368/posts/8qpSYNZFbzC</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>dmvaldman</author><text>It&apos;s not so surprising. This could also be summarized as &quot;God created the integers.&quot;&lt;p&gt;But really the process is reversed: given arithmetic, what is the smallest axiom set to give us the power to prove our theorems.&lt;p&gt;It&apos;s like, given all code, what is the smallest language we can use to express it. Which is sequences of 0s and 1s.</text><parent_chain><item><author>danbruc</author><text>It is absolutely mind-blowing how much time and passion humans have invested in understanding the consequences of nine simple statements...and how hard they resist against unveiling their secrets.&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;  0∈ℕ
  ∀x∈ℕ:S(x)∈ℕ
  ∀x∈ℕ:S(x)≠0
  ∀x,y∈ℕ:S(x)=S(y) ⇒ x=y
  0∈X∧∀x∈ℕ:(x∈X ⇒ S(x)∈X) ⇒ ℕ⊆X
  x + 0 := x
  x + S(y) := S(x + y)
  x · 0 := 0
  x · S(y) := x · y + x

&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
These are the Peano axioms [1] defining the natural numbers with addition and multiplication. And for at least 3000 years humans are tying to figure out properties of these natural numbers, all consequences of these definition, and the end is not in sight.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peano_axioms&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peano_axioms&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Every odd number greater than five is the sum of three primes</title><url>https://plus.google.com/114134834346472219368/posts/8qpSYNZFbzC</url></story>