<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>CPLX</author><text>&amp;gt;  My plan was to refund attendees if we canceled the BBQ but that would have been thousands of dollars out of my pocket and lots of disappointed people. Fortunately, it didn&amp;#x27;t rain in either years.&lt;p&gt;You can buy special event rain-out insurance for situations like these. Definitely recommend it.</text><parent_chain><item><author>bquinlan</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve been a co-convener for two Python conferences in Vancouver.&lt;p&gt;The conferences were small (&amp;lt;200 people) but I don&amp;#x27;t remember the organization being as stressful as the article describes.&lt;p&gt;For me, the key sources of stress were:&lt;p&gt;1. hoping that tickets and sponsorship would cover our costs (at some point you have to pay for your venue, flights for your keynotes, etc. and this happens &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; ticket sales open). I think that we lost a few hundred dollars on the first conference and donated a few hundred dollars to the Python Software Foundation on the second one.&lt;p&gt;2. the BBQ. For both years, I arranged a beach BBQ but didn&amp;#x27;t have enough budget to deal with contingencies in the event of rain (remember this is Vancouver so the chance definitely exists). My plan was to refund attendees if we canceled the BBQ but that would have been thousands of dollars out of my pocket and lots of disappointed people. Fortunately, it didn&amp;#x27;t rain in either years.&lt;p&gt;I would say that convening a conference in a city where you have lots of connections really helps. For example, I was able to buy salmon direct from the docks for the BBQ because I knew someone who was willing to help me. I also used my family as the chefs (&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;photos.app.goo.gl&amp;#x2F;C6yNzqMnBG98GxE36&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;photos.app.goo.gl&amp;#x2F;C6yNzqMnBG98GxE36&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;p&gt;What I do remember being hard was not the planning but going without sleep during the conference itself. As a convener, I had to be at the venue before any attendees arrived, had to leave after the last attendee left and then still had to deal with issues, etc. for the next day.&lt;p&gt;Still it was tonnes of fun!</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference</title><url>https://notamonadtutorial.com/the-bullshit-i-had-to-go-through-while-organizing-a-software-conference-4de1225d0acb</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>Ragnarork</author><text>&amp;gt; but I don&amp;#x27;t remember the organization being as stressful as the article describes&lt;p&gt;Well the article describes a very shitty and problematic situation that sure doesn&amp;#x27;t look like the norm anyway (but is good to keep in mind just in case it could happen).</text><parent_chain><item><author>bquinlan</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve been a co-convener for two Python conferences in Vancouver.&lt;p&gt;The conferences were small (&amp;lt;200 people) but I don&amp;#x27;t remember the organization being as stressful as the article describes.&lt;p&gt;For me, the key sources of stress were:&lt;p&gt;1. hoping that tickets and sponsorship would cover our costs (at some point you have to pay for your venue, flights for your keynotes, etc. and this happens &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; ticket sales open). I think that we lost a few hundred dollars on the first conference and donated a few hundred dollars to the Python Software Foundation on the second one.&lt;p&gt;2. the BBQ. For both years, I arranged a beach BBQ but didn&amp;#x27;t have enough budget to deal with contingencies in the event of rain (remember this is Vancouver so the chance definitely exists). My plan was to refund attendees if we canceled the BBQ but that would have been thousands of dollars out of my pocket and lots of disappointed people. Fortunately, it didn&amp;#x27;t rain in either years.&lt;p&gt;I would say that convening a conference in a city where you have lots of connections really helps. For example, I was able to buy salmon direct from the docks for the BBQ because I knew someone who was willing to help me. I also used my family as the chefs (&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;photos.app.goo.gl&amp;#x2F;C6yNzqMnBG98GxE36&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;photos.app.goo.gl&amp;#x2F;C6yNzqMnBG98GxE36&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;p&gt;What I do remember being hard was not the planning but going without sleep during the conference itself. As a convener, I had to be at the venue before any attendees arrived, had to leave after the last attendee left and then still had to deal with issues, etc. for the next day.&lt;p&gt;Still it was tonnes of fun!</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference</title><url>https://notamonadtutorial.com/the-bullshit-i-had-to-go-through-while-organizing-a-software-conference-4de1225d0acb</url></story>