<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>klabb3</author><text>&amp;gt; Admins of &amp;lt;service&amp;gt; can read data on &amp;lt;service&amp;gt;&amp;quot; is just a tautology.&lt;p&gt;Huh? This is certainly not true for Signal and Matrix, heck even whatsapp and telegram sounds better than some random instance operator.&lt;p&gt;That said, truly private messages aren&amp;#x27;t always necessary, as long as the platform is &lt;i&gt;crystal clear&lt;/i&gt; about this.</text><parent_chain><item><author>stormbrew</author><text>&amp;gt; Instance owners can read DMs.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Admins of &amp;lt;website&amp;gt; can read data on &amp;lt;website&amp;gt;&amp;quot; is just a tautology. It&amp;#x27;s true of everything you use on the internet where you don&amp;#x27;t own the server, and even then it&amp;#x27;s dubious.&lt;p&gt;If people don&amp;#x27;t get that about mastodon they probably don&amp;#x27;t get it about everything else they use either, so this recurring argument just seems like FUD...&lt;p&gt;[note: Edited &amp;lt;service&amp;gt; to &amp;lt;website&amp;gt; above because people keep coming at this from the angle of chat clients that run on your phone, and we&amp;#x27;re talking about websites here - a website can&amp;#x27;t have &amp;quot;e2e&amp;quot; encryption because it is both ends. That said, some of y&amp;#x27;all believe way too hard in the perfectness of e2e in general and I addressed that in some of my replies]</text></item><item><author>artificial</author><text>Glad to see more people dip toes into federated networks. Instance owners can read DMs. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;mastodon&amp;#x2F;mastodon&amp;#x2F;issues&amp;#x2F;18079&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;mastodon&amp;#x2F;mastodon&amp;#x2F;issues&amp;#x2F;18079&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Mastodon Explained</title><url>https://mastodon.ie/@Ciaraioch/109287818715515862</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>palata</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s wrong. If it is end-to-end encrypted, then the server admins still cannot read it.&lt;p&gt;Use e2ee messengers (like Signal) for DMs, use Mastodon (or whatever you want) for public posts.</text><parent_chain><item><author>stormbrew</author><text>&amp;gt; Instance owners can read DMs.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Admins of &amp;lt;website&amp;gt; can read data on &amp;lt;website&amp;gt;&amp;quot; is just a tautology. It&amp;#x27;s true of everything you use on the internet where you don&amp;#x27;t own the server, and even then it&amp;#x27;s dubious.&lt;p&gt;If people don&amp;#x27;t get that about mastodon they probably don&amp;#x27;t get it about everything else they use either, so this recurring argument just seems like FUD...&lt;p&gt;[note: Edited &amp;lt;service&amp;gt; to &amp;lt;website&amp;gt; above because people keep coming at this from the angle of chat clients that run on your phone, and we&amp;#x27;re talking about websites here - a website can&amp;#x27;t have &amp;quot;e2e&amp;quot; encryption because it is both ends. That said, some of y&amp;#x27;all believe way too hard in the perfectness of e2e in general and I addressed that in some of my replies]</text></item><item><author>artificial</author><text>Glad to see more people dip toes into federated networks. Instance owners can read DMs. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;mastodon&amp;#x2F;mastodon&amp;#x2F;issues&amp;#x2F;18079&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;mastodon&amp;#x2F;mastodon&amp;#x2F;issues&amp;#x2F;18079&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Mastodon Explained</title><url>https://mastodon.ie/@Ciaraioch/109287818715515862</url></story>