<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>mrkurt</author><text>I think the most interesting part of this is the PaaS disaggregation. Heroku built an exceptionally good Postgres service. They could not have done that with multiple DBs. Even their redis is pretty meh.&lt;p&gt;People like us (Fly.io) will end up either building very mediocre DB offerings or collaborating with DB companies (like yours: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.crunchydata.com&amp;#x2F;products&amp;#x2F;crunchy-bridge&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.crunchydata.com&amp;#x2F;products&amp;#x2F;crunchy-bridge&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;) to ship stuff that&amp;#x27;s substantially better than RDS. I&amp;#x27;m looking forward to it. Down with mediocre DB services.</text><parent_chain><item><author>craigkerstiens</author><text>As someone that was there at Heroku after the acquisition, I don&amp;#x27;t think you can state that since the acquisition it&amp;#x27;s been consistently downhill. There isn&amp;#x27;t much debate that things have stagnated in the last 5-7 years which is a longer story on why probably.&lt;p&gt;Some examples of innovation that happened and were launched after the acquisition: buildpacks (at the time of acquisition Heroku was still Ruby only), Heroku Postgres launched forks&amp;#x2F;followers&amp;#x2F;dataclips all after the acquisition, review apps came several years after. Salesforce may have had an eventual hand in it, but there was still a lot of innovation happening due to the folks there in the near to mid-term after the acquisition for several years.&lt;p&gt;All that said, very excited for the new crop of players in the space. There are a number of companies trying to be a cheaper or more stable Heroku. Personally I&amp;#x27;m excited about the ones that are taking their own unique approach. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.fly.io&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.fly.io&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.railway.app&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.railway.app&lt;/a&gt; are two that to me seem to bring their own perspective vs. just trying to recreate Heroku as a carbon copy clone. There are a number more in the jamstack space that have become staples such as Netlify and Vercel which are also doing great things.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)</title><url>https://blog.porter.run/why-companies-move-off-heroku/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>simonw</author><text>The first few years after the Salesforce acquisition were incredible - for quite a while I thought of Heroku as one of the best examples of an acquisiton where the product improved after the release.&lt;p&gt;Sad to see that momentum eventually fade away.</text><parent_chain><item><author>craigkerstiens</author><text>As someone that was there at Heroku after the acquisition, I don&amp;#x27;t think you can state that since the acquisition it&amp;#x27;s been consistently downhill. There isn&amp;#x27;t much debate that things have stagnated in the last 5-7 years which is a longer story on why probably.&lt;p&gt;Some examples of innovation that happened and were launched after the acquisition: buildpacks (at the time of acquisition Heroku was still Ruby only), Heroku Postgres launched forks&amp;#x2F;followers&amp;#x2F;dataclips all after the acquisition, review apps came several years after. Salesforce may have had an eventual hand in it, but there was still a lot of innovation happening due to the folks there in the near to mid-term after the acquisition for several years.&lt;p&gt;All that said, very excited for the new crop of players in the space. There are a number of companies trying to be a cheaper or more stable Heroku. Personally I&amp;#x27;m excited about the ones that are taking their own unique approach. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.fly.io&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.fly.io&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.railway.app&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.railway.app&lt;/a&gt; are two that to me seem to bring their own perspective vs. just trying to recreate Heroku as a carbon copy clone. There are a number more in the jamstack space that have become staples such as Netlify and Vercel which are also doing great things.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)</title><url>https://blog.porter.run/why-companies-move-off-heroku/</url></story>