<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>lxgr</author><text>Is it not an option to use one of the many free OTT messengers such as Signal or WhatsApp that offer the same user experience as iMessage, but work for both major mobile OSes, and as an additional bonus don&amp;#x27;t depend on 30 year old brittle protocols (looking at MMS here) and don&amp;#x27;t hand over your entire conversation history to your carrier?</text><parent_chain><item><author>buildbot</author><text>It really degrades the experience and often does really wonky things, like delivery 3&amp;#x2F;4 the messages to 3&amp;#x2F;4 of the people. Happens nearly every time in a decently sized group text for my friend group.&lt;p&gt;I don’t know if that’s Google’s, Apple’s, RCS’s, or SMS’s fault.</text></item><item><author>JohnFen</author><text>&amp;gt; it&amp;#x27;s always a pain to figure out why a group chat is showing up green all of a sudden; you can&amp;#x27;t tell who brought the Android to the party.&lt;p&gt;Genuinely curious -- why do you feel it&amp;#x27;s necessary to figure that out at all?</text></item><item><author>andrewla</author><text>&amp;gt; Messages from Android phones show up as green bubbles in iMessage chats, and chaos ensues.&lt;p&gt;This is not true -- messages from Android users show up as grey, the same as messages from iMessage. Messages from you *TO* Android users show up as green. I don&amp;#x27;t know why people keep getting this wrong.&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s why it&amp;#x27;s always a pain to figure out why a group chat is showing up green all of a sudden; you can&amp;#x27;t tell who brought the Android to the party.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Apple is finally bringing RCS messaging to the iPhone</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/10/24171315/apple-messages-rcs-ios-18-imessage-green-bubble</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>jandrewrogers</author><text>That is mostly SMS fault. It doesn&amp;#x27;t guarantee reliable delivery either in theory or practice, and the carrier will happily drop messages if a resource limit is exceeded. Essentially all of the IP-based chat protocols are reliable, whether that is WhatsApp or iMessage.</text><parent_chain><item><author>buildbot</author><text>It really degrades the experience and often does really wonky things, like delivery 3&amp;#x2F;4 the messages to 3&amp;#x2F;4 of the people. Happens nearly every time in a decently sized group text for my friend group.&lt;p&gt;I don’t know if that’s Google’s, Apple’s, RCS’s, or SMS’s fault.</text></item><item><author>JohnFen</author><text>&amp;gt; it&amp;#x27;s always a pain to figure out why a group chat is showing up green all of a sudden; you can&amp;#x27;t tell who brought the Android to the party.&lt;p&gt;Genuinely curious -- why do you feel it&amp;#x27;s necessary to figure that out at all?</text></item><item><author>andrewla</author><text>&amp;gt; Messages from Android phones show up as green bubbles in iMessage chats, and chaos ensues.&lt;p&gt;This is not true -- messages from Android users show up as grey, the same as messages from iMessage. Messages from you *TO* Android users show up as green. I don&amp;#x27;t know why people keep getting this wrong.&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s why it&amp;#x27;s always a pain to figure out why a group chat is showing up green all of a sudden; you can&amp;#x27;t tell who brought the Android to the party.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Apple is finally bringing RCS messaging to the iPhone</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/10/24171315/apple-messages-rcs-ios-18-imessage-green-bubble</url></story>