<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>jrochkind1</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t know that it has to be ugly. I think the good brutalist architecture is quite beautiful, as well as very pleasant to use (it&amp;#x27;s a misconception that brutalist design is meant to be _brutal_ towards it&amp;#x27;s users, although the bad stuff is -- and I think, maybe heretically, much of Le Corbusier is pretty bad).&lt;p&gt;When I think of brutalist, I think no frills, and putting the infrastructural elements forward, not covering them up with any surface-level aesthetics.  Exposing the infrastructural bones, hiding nothing.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t think it&amp;#x27;s at all obvious what this means for a website. The very very abstract nature of all software makes it perhaps impossible to put the &amp;#x27;concrete&amp;#x27; forward (double meaning intended, but primarily here as the opposite of &amp;#x27;abstract&amp;#x27;), there&amp;#x27;s no there there. But I think it&amp;#x27;s interesting to think about, and the candidates listed there are contenders worth considering.&lt;p&gt;But there&amp;#x27;s a link to submit more, you should submit a JavaDoc page, I&amp;#x27;m sure they&amp;#x27;ll list it too.</text><parent_chain><item><author>gradstudent</author><text>IMO, the cited examples are minimalist but not brutalist. When I think of a brutalist website I think of the design elements being exposed as part of the presentation. Frames and tables with exposed borders and ugly html buttons -- not, as suggested by the OP, clean layouts driven by an invisible style sheet.&lt;p&gt;A typical JavaDoc page for example, rather than Hacker News.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Brutalist Websites</title><url>http://brutalistwebsites.com/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>minikomi</author><text>Agreed. I think more along the lines of &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;thin.npr.org&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;thin.npr.org&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;.. which is great &amp;amp; I wish more sites had a &amp;quot;thin&amp;quot; version.</text><parent_chain><item><author>gradstudent</author><text>IMO, the cited examples are minimalist but not brutalist. When I think of a brutalist website I think of the design elements being exposed as part of the presentation. Frames and tables with exposed borders and ugly html buttons -- not, as suggested by the OP, clean layouts driven by an invisible style sheet.&lt;p&gt;A typical JavaDoc page for example, rather than Hacker News.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Brutalist Websites</title><url>http://brutalistwebsites.com/</url></story>