<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>simula67</author><text>I have been a Linux user for a long time ( ArchLinux with Xfce ). Recently, I switched jobs and my employer issued me with a Mac. I am having the same problem : &lt;i&gt;the fucking OS&lt;/i&gt;.  Why do I need to press multiple buttons to see how many applications I have open ? Why does command + tab cycle through every open application ? Why does it not limit itself to the applications in the current space ? What are spaces &lt;i&gt;for&lt;/i&gt; anyway ? Why does clicking on an already open application&amp;#x27;s icon in the dock take me to a random window for the application ? Is there some logic to it ? Is it random ? I think I understand why so many people wax on about tiling window managers now, they have never seen proper window managers. Also why do I have to press Command + whatever when there is a perfectly functional control key on the keyboard ? If I am remoted into a Windows machine now I have to remember to press Control + whatever and revert back to Command + Whatever when I am back on my Mac. Also don&amp;#x27;t even get me started on the docker networking issues.&lt;p&gt;But it would be unfair for me to blame Apple&amp;#x27;s OS for most of these faults.</text><parent_chain><item><author>veidr</author><text>My own burning hatred towards Apple runs a little hotter than most, and I have been seriously googling (and trying) alternatives since 2012.&lt;p&gt;That was when my $9000 Mac Pro — which had been a great machine, and still was, except for the little detail about not having been updated since 2009 and thus being stuck with USB 2 (!!!) to say nothing of Thunderbolt and any kind of modern accoutrements — started to feel like a personal affront, a sneering &lt;i&gt;fuck you&lt;/i&gt; directed at not just me, but everybody remotely like me. (Wow!!! &lt;i&gt;Déjà vu&lt;/i&gt; bro!!)&lt;p&gt;Nevertheless, I didn&amp;#x27;t switch then, and all of us complainers won&amp;#x27;t switch now either.&lt;p&gt;Because &lt;i&gt;the fucking OS&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve tried every iteration of Ubuttnu, CentOS, and FreeBSD since. Even OpenWhatever, before the goblins bought it. I have Thinkpads and Dell XPS &amp;quot;Developer Editions&amp;quot; and a drawer full of other crap like that.&lt;p&gt;Executive summary: it&amp;#x27;s all garbage time. It&amp;#x27;s like going back 10+ years. Nothing works right, on any of them. Copy&amp;#x2F;paste, batteries, wireless networking, drag and drop, high-res displays, multilingual input, even like fucking word processing and email and image editors and terminal programs... it&amp;#x27;s all like Mac OS X Jaguar level.&lt;p&gt;We can&amp;#x27;t give Apple the finger, even though we want to (and definitely after last week, we &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; want to) because there literally isn&amp;#x27;t an OS in the world that can touch Mac OS for general-purpose workstation&amp;#x2F;laptop use. (For niche and limited-purpose, yes, there are options.)&lt;p&gt;Elementary OS is a fucking joke. Every OS mentioned disparagingly above is a better choice for almost any purpose. But those are still horrible.&lt;p&gt;Apple&amp;#x27;s OS advantage is what lets them say &amp;quot;Fuck you peons, here&amp;#x27;s some 3 year old technology and a bag of dongles, that&amp;#x27;ll be $4000.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;But we&amp;#x27;re mostly all gonna buy the new shitty MacBook Hipster, or gut it out with our old ones, until a better fucking &lt;i&gt;OS&lt;/i&gt; happens. And that won&amp;#x27;t be soon — it&amp;#x27;s not even remotely on the horizon.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Switching from macOS: The Basics</title><url>http://blog.elementary.io/post/152626170946/switching-from-macos-the-basics</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>vamur</author><text>Speak for yourself. Linux is a perfectly viable option for non-lazy people, who don&amp;#x27;t complain about everything. And Windows 10 is excellent too if you don&amp;#x27;t care about privacy. And it&amp;#x27;s Ubuntu not Ubuttnu.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; a sneering fuck you directed at not just me, but everybody remotely like me.&lt;p&gt;You overpaid 8k for a machine so why should Apple care? You are clearly going to buy their next product.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;But we&amp;#x27;re mostly all gonna buy the new shitty MacBook Hipster, or gut it out with our old ones&lt;p&gt;According to Netmarketshare stats at least 2% have abandoned OSX since May 2016.</text><parent_chain><item><author>veidr</author><text>My own burning hatred towards Apple runs a little hotter than most, and I have been seriously googling (and trying) alternatives since 2012.&lt;p&gt;That was when my $9000 Mac Pro — which had been a great machine, and still was, except for the little detail about not having been updated since 2009 and thus being stuck with USB 2 (!!!) to say nothing of Thunderbolt and any kind of modern accoutrements — started to feel like a personal affront, a sneering &lt;i&gt;fuck you&lt;/i&gt; directed at not just me, but everybody remotely like me. (Wow!!! &lt;i&gt;Déjà vu&lt;/i&gt; bro!!)&lt;p&gt;Nevertheless, I didn&amp;#x27;t switch then, and all of us complainers won&amp;#x27;t switch now either.&lt;p&gt;Because &lt;i&gt;the fucking OS&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve tried every iteration of Ubuttnu, CentOS, and FreeBSD since. Even OpenWhatever, before the goblins bought it. I have Thinkpads and Dell XPS &amp;quot;Developer Editions&amp;quot; and a drawer full of other crap like that.&lt;p&gt;Executive summary: it&amp;#x27;s all garbage time. It&amp;#x27;s like going back 10+ years. Nothing works right, on any of them. Copy&amp;#x2F;paste, batteries, wireless networking, drag and drop, high-res displays, multilingual input, even like fucking word processing and email and image editors and terminal programs... it&amp;#x27;s all like Mac OS X Jaguar level.&lt;p&gt;We can&amp;#x27;t give Apple the finger, even though we want to (and definitely after last week, we &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; want to) because there literally isn&amp;#x27;t an OS in the world that can touch Mac OS for general-purpose workstation&amp;#x2F;laptop use. (For niche and limited-purpose, yes, there are options.)&lt;p&gt;Elementary OS is a fucking joke. Every OS mentioned disparagingly above is a better choice for almost any purpose. But those are still horrible.&lt;p&gt;Apple&amp;#x27;s OS advantage is what lets them say &amp;quot;Fuck you peons, here&amp;#x27;s some 3 year old technology and a bag of dongles, that&amp;#x27;ll be $4000.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;But we&amp;#x27;re mostly all gonna buy the new shitty MacBook Hipster, or gut it out with our old ones, until a better fucking &lt;i&gt;OS&lt;/i&gt; happens. And that won&amp;#x27;t be soon — it&amp;#x27;s not even remotely on the horizon.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Switching from macOS: The Basics</title><url>http://blog.elementary.io/post/152626170946/switching-from-macos-the-basics</url></story>