<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>_huayra_</author><text>Mandatory gratuity and the &amp;quot;operating cost&amp;quot; charges can be declined unless it is clearly listed and displayed before ordering (and even then it can arguably be declined). This is why you see &amp;quot;mandatory X% gratuity for Y reasons&amp;quot; on menus (e.g. for large groups). If you knew this terrible gratuity beforehand, then you&amp;#x27;re basically stuck (or can walk away before ordering). However, if they sprung this on you without clear notice, &lt;i&gt;you don&amp;#x27;t have to pay it&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;p&gt;This comes down to the same reason why when you click &amp;quot;buy&amp;quot; on some website, they can&amp;#x27;t say &amp;quot;oh look we added a secret X% f** you fee!&amp;quot;. Similarly, this is the reason why when you negotiate a rate with a lawyer, accountant, gardener, or other professional, they can&amp;#x27;t add random fees that weren&amp;#x27;t discussed. My climbing gym has had big signs up and has sent myriad emails over the past few months leading up to a new credit card processing fee for this very reason.&lt;p&gt;If you had great service, I would still recommend fighting this and then tipping the server directly with cash. These &amp;quot;mandatory tips&amp;quot; don&amp;#x27;t go to the server, but are usually pooled and mostly taken by management. If the restaurant is one of the few ones that is equitable between the staff members (e.g. if the tip gets automatically split between front and back of house), then that might be the one exception where paying a surprise mandatory fee would be okay.</text><parent_chain><item><author>xrd</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m in a hotel in Clearwater Florida right now.&lt;p&gt;The coffee shop added an automatic and mandatory 19% gratuity. I always thought I was only forced to pay 18%!&lt;p&gt;The buffet this morning did the same thing. The receipt says &amp;quot;18% is gratuity, 1% is for operating costs.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I thought paying for a meal included the operating costs. I&amp;#x27;m shocked to find out those were provided for free up to this point, I feel so grateful that the restaurants didn&amp;#x27;t need to pass these on to me.&lt;p&gt;And, I&amp;#x27;m a little surprised that neither of these two experiences required anything from the servers other than handing me or my kids a drink.&lt;p&gt;I assume this is because this hotel probably has a lot of tourists from countries where they don&amp;#x27;t tip. And, I always tip my barista at least 20% but that&amp;#x27;s because I go to the same place and know them beyond just as a server, and a hotel in Clearwater will never foster that relationship between anyone.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>From airlines to ticket sellers, companies fight U.S. to keep junk fees</title><url>https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/11/19/companies-lobbyists-fight-junk-fees/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>toomuchtodo</author><text>Please file a complaint with the FTC. They need every data point possible. I’ll Venmo you for your time (a coffee ;) if needed (currently sitting in a bar on St Pete Beach).&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;reportfraud.ftc.gov&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;reportfraud.ftc.gov&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain><item><author>xrd</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m in a hotel in Clearwater Florida right now.&lt;p&gt;The coffee shop added an automatic and mandatory 19% gratuity. I always thought I was only forced to pay 18%!&lt;p&gt;The buffet this morning did the same thing. The receipt says &amp;quot;18% is gratuity, 1% is for operating costs.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I thought paying for a meal included the operating costs. I&amp;#x27;m shocked to find out those were provided for free up to this point, I feel so grateful that the restaurants didn&amp;#x27;t need to pass these on to me.&lt;p&gt;And, I&amp;#x27;m a little surprised that neither of these two experiences required anything from the servers other than handing me or my kids a drink.&lt;p&gt;I assume this is because this hotel probably has a lot of tourists from countries where they don&amp;#x27;t tip. And, I always tip my barista at least 20% but that&amp;#x27;s because I go to the same place and know them beyond just as a server, and a hotel in Clearwater will never foster that relationship between anyone.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>From airlines to ticket sellers, companies fight U.S. to keep junk fees</title><url>https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/11/19/companies-lobbyists-fight-junk-fees/</url></story>