<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>rsynnott</author><text>The likes of Comsumer Report have tended to find that modern front-loading machines are almost universally more effective than the old low-efficiency top loaders popular in the US, and can also attain much higher temperatures (fairly basic models can do a &amp;gt;90 degree C wash, say). So that’s probably not it.&lt;p&gt;Though there might be an element of misuse. My machine warns in the manual to do a 60or 90 degree wash with no clothes every couple of months to clean the machine. I suspect most people don’t do this.</text><parent_chain><item><author>bbitmaster</author><text>The issue I suspect caused this is all of the newer energy efficient washers&amp;#x2F; dryers. The author tested a Samsung dryer. I recently lived in apartment with a similar model, and it was terrible. When visiting parents I was stunned at how well their older washer&amp;#x2F;dryer worked. The clothes came out much more clean too.&lt;p&gt;In my experience the newer energy efficent washers&amp;#x2F;dryers are almost total garbage compared to the older ones. I would love to see this experiment repeated with an older 90&amp;#x27;s kenmore or whirlpool or really any brand from the 90&amp;#x27;s or before.&lt;p&gt;I love the idea of saving energy, and energy efficient laundry sounds like a great idea on the surface, but what I think happened was the government put regulations in place without really considering the actual impact this would have on the quality of the washers&amp;#x2F;dryers.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Does Clean Laundry Have Germs?</title><url>http://www.stopthestomachflu.com/does-clean-laundry-have-germs-1</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>yongjik</author><text>Growing up in Korea, and living in the US for 5+ years now, what I&amp;#x27;ve heard is that American washer models are so forceful that they wear clothes out.  If you are accustomed to such washers (and clothes made with such expectation) I can see how you think the newer models are not as good.  But I would choose a Samsung&amp;#x2F;LG washer over Whirlpool any day, if the prices were the same.</text><parent_chain><item><author>bbitmaster</author><text>The issue I suspect caused this is all of the newer energy efficient washers&amp;#x2F; dryers. The author tested a Samsung dryer. I recently lived in apartment with a similar model, and it was terrible. When visiting parents I was stunned at how well their older washer&amp;#x2F;dryer worked. The clothes came out much more clean too.&lt;p&gt;In my experience the newer energy efficent washers&amp;#x2F;dryers are almost total garbage compared to the older ones. I would love to see this experiment repeated with an older 90&amp;#x27;s kenmore or whirlpool or really any brand from the 90&amp;#x27;s or before.&lt;p&gt;I love the idea of saving energy, and energy efficient laundry sounds like a great idea on the surface, but what I think happened was the government put regulations in place without really considering the actual impact this would have on the quality of the washers&amp;#x2F;dryers.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Does Clean Laundry Have Germs?</title><url>http://www.stopthestomachflu.com/does-clean-laundry-have-germs-1</url></story>