<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>cannonedhamster</author><text>&lt;i&gt;you don&amp;#x27;t un-people people.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;But without trying to devolve into the actual politics of it, a large portion of Americans (I&amp;#x27;d wager it&amp;#x27;s the majority) believe that it&amp;#x27;s okay to exclude people for one reason or another. Americans have voted since Pres. GW Bush on protectionist principles, even President Obama was barely for extending rights until he was forced into it by VP Biden. America is in the middle of a massive demographic shift from the Baby Boomers who have ruined the economy, created massive public debt, destroyed worker protections, and shifted the political power from those in the middle to those at the very top. They did this by unpeopling people. This was an intentional thing done by the religious right starting in the late 70s and really gaining steam in the 80s. Their brand of us vs them found a receptive audience in America, because the Baby Boomers are afraid that what they&amp;#x27;ve created will change, and for the moment there&amp;#x27;s more of them than other voting populations. Of course this is the natural outcome. Look at how many centrist politicians have left. So yes I personally disagree with what this guy said, but in a public sphere he has every right to say it. Inside of Google however they have the right to fire him for any reason, because there are no worker protections for free speech.</text><parent_chain><item><author>fennecfoxen</author><text>Google is substantially located in the Bay Area. Of course they hate ideological diversity, in practice if not in principle. It is an attitude common in their workforce.&lt;p&gt;This is a tendentious statement, so I will relate my own experience. Once upon a time I was working in California, at a tiny startup, and was reading some election results from &amp;quot;back home&amp;quot; in North Carolina, which had just passed Amendment One by about a 3:2 margin. Observing the results thoughtfully, my coworker casually remarked &amp;quot;wow, 60% of North Carolina is literally horrible, terrible people.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I just quietly sat back and thought &amp;quot;why, how nice of you, sir, to refer to some unknown fraction of my family and the friends I had growing up in such a lovely manner.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;At one point my girlfriend (now an ex-girlfriend) attended a party that he was hosting. She had just left Missouri out of disgust for its Missouri-ness, and was very much in love with San Francisco and its people – yet left the party modestly offended – not for saying anyone in particular was bad this time, but just &lt;i&gt;with all the best of intentions&lt;/i&gt; saying it was inevitable that they&amp;#x27;d all come around to the modern views on things like gay marriage (and, in the process, utterly trivializing their religion, values, and world-views).&lt;p&gt;I do not seek to cast him as a bad person for this remark. This is a man who, if anything, is one of the nicest people I know, easily far above the average, and a quitessential San Franciscan (well above and beyond your typical tech hipster). But he is immersed in a culture which specifically and explicitly denies human dignity of people who are not alike and do not think alike.&lt;p&gt;This is very sad. You would think if there is one lesson we could take from the history of the US, religious tolerance in the colonies, slavery, the Civil War, the Civil Rights Movement, our wars with Native Americans, the likes of the Japanese Internment, women&amp;#x27;s suffrage, &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt; ... if there&amp;#x27;s one resounding strain here, it&amp;#x27;s that you &lt;i&gt;don&amp;#x27;t un-people people&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;(but it&amp;#x27;s okay to un-people these people, because they&amp;#x27;re bad people!)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;In conclusion:&lt;p&gt;I sympathize with this guy who wrote this manifesto. It is also unfortunate that, from what I hear and understand of the matter, this guy is factually in error, probably sexist, and almost certainly undermining his cause.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Google Employee&apos;s Anti-Diversity Manifesto Goes &apos;Internally Viral&apos;</title><url>https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/kzbm4a/employees-anti-diversity-manifesto-goes-internally-viral-at-google</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>throwaway2812</author><text>&amp;gt;from what I hear and understand of the matter, this guy is factually in error, probably sexist, and almost certainly undermining his cause.&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s my take too, having read the doc. Reminds me of The_Donald -- sometimes correctly identifies an issue, but misses the point entirely on so many levels and does more harm than good to whatever the author&amp;#x27;s goal was.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;you don&amp;#x27;t un-people people&lt;p&gt;And that&amp;#x27;s exactly how the doc started from the get-go. It decried anyone who dared disagree with it as shunning communication. That&amp;#x27;s really not the case -- people discussed it, and disagreed with it. It reminds me of those religious freedom laws, that guarantee people&amp;#x27;s freedom to discriminate to protect their own beliefs. The more layers you follow down, the more of a contradiction the laws become.</text><parent_chain><item><author>fennecfoxen</author><text>Google is substantially located in the Bay Area. Of course they hate ideological diversity, in practice if not in principle. It is an attitude common in their workforce.&lt;p&gt;This is a tendentious statement, so I will relate my own experience. Once upon a time I was working in California, at a tiny startup, and was reading some election results from &amp;quot;back home&amp;quot; in North Carolina, which had just passed Amendment One by about a 3:2 margin. Observing the results thoughtfully, my coworker casually remarked &amp;quot;wow, 60% of North Carolina is literally horrible, terrible people.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I just quietly sat back and thought &amp;quot;why, how nice of you, sir, to refer to some unknown fraction of my family and the friends I had growing up in such a lovely manner.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;At one point my girlfriend (now an ex-girlfriend) attended a party that he was hosting. She had just left Missouri out of disgust for its Missouri-ness, and was very much in love with San Francisco and its people – yet left the party modestly offended – not for saying anyone in particular was bad this time, but just &lt;i&gt;with all the best of intentions&lt;/i&gt; saying it was inevitable that they&amp;#x27;d all come around to the modern views on things like gay marriage (and, in the process, utterly trivializing their religion, values, and world-views).&lt;p&gt;I do not seek to cast him as a bad person for this remark. This is a man who, if anything, is one of the nicest people I know, easily far above the average, and a quitessential San Franciscan (well above and beyond your typical tech hipster). But he is immersed in a culture which specifically and explicitly denies human dignity of people who are not alike and do not think alike.&lt;p&gt;This is very sad. You would think if there is one lesson we could take from the history of the US, religious tolerance in the colonies, slavery, the Civil War, the Civil Rights Movement, our wars with Native Americans, the likes of the Japanese Internment, women&amp;#x27;s suffrage, &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt; ... if there&amp;#x27;s one resounding strain here, it&amp;#x27;s that you &lt;i&gt;don&amp;#x27;t un-people people&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;(but it&amp;#x27;s okay to un-people these people, because they&amp;#x27;re bad people!)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;In conclusion:&lt;p&gt;I sympathize with this guy who wrote this manifesto. It is also unfortunate that, from what I hear and understand of the matter, this guy is factually in error, probably sexist, and almost certainly undermining his cause.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Google Employee&apos;s Anti-Diversity Manifesto Goes &apos;Internally Viral&apos;</title><url>https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/kzbm4a/employees-anti-diversity-manifesto-goes-internally-viral-at-google</url></story>