<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>doublerebel</author><text>Joyent and Distelli make this about as painless as possible with any current workflow.  Docker containers can be launched directly in any number or size to Joyent, and Distelli will app-ify and&amp;#x2F;or dockerize your app as part of the CI&amp;#x2F;CD workflow and watch the processes.&lt;p&gt;Any custom script is just bash, and I can deploy to any OS.&lt;p&gt;I have a cluster of 5 or 6 instances running 20-30 services in this setup and it&amp;#x27;s been a dream.  I tried to do something similar before, but Cloud66 dropped Joyent.  It makes perfect sense because apps can be anywhere between traditionally deployed to fully containerized and still are managed with the same interface and config.&lt;p&gt;Since it&amp;#x27;s all open-source my deploy process is portable.  But I&amp;#x27;ve evaluated other vendors and processes and all seem more manual and less transparent.</text><parent_chain><item><author>avitzurel</author><text>I had a very interesting discussion about this subject a couple of weeks ago with a CTO of a big company.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve commented before that Kube absolutely takes over the bigger more complex cloud installations out there, you can see how many companies are betting their infrastructure on it.&lt;p&gt;The only thing that I don&amp;#x27;t see is standardization of the cloud, just like what Amazon did. You see too many companies doing too many of the same things and reinventing the wheel.&lt;p&gt;Personally, I would love to see smaller installation as a standard of how to take things into the cloud as a cluster. Imagine what Heroku did to deployments. You can&amp;#x27;t beat this ease of use. Deis and Convox are both trying but not really &amp;quot;hitting it&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;As for Walmart, absolutely stoked seeing it from them. This move and what the white-house did with the digital shows a lot of promise and hope. I wonder how much of this is on top of &amp;quot;older&amp;quot; management and how much is just complete restructuring.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Walmart Will Manage Distribution Centers with OneOps, Jenkins, and Kubernetes</title><url>http://www.techbetter.com/walmart-will-manage-200-distribution-centers-oneops-jenkins-nexus-kubernetes/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>hueving</author><text>Kubernetes != virtualization&lt;p&gt;Some virtualization use cases can be solved with kubernetes, but many things an enterprise runs do not work at all in the kube paradigm. The majority of applications are pets (i.e. stateful) and many applications run on Windows or have some other kernel requirements that mismatch the baremetal kubelet.&lt;p&gt;If you think Kubernetes &amp;#x27;absolutely takes over the more complex cloud installations&amp;#x27;, you&amp;#x27;re living in an echo chamber of 12 factor apps that doesn&amp;#x27;t line up with the majority of what I&amp;#x27;ve seen in big enterprise cloud workloads.&lt;p&gt;Case in point: Walmart has one of the largest openstack deployments in the world.</text><parent_chain><item><author>avitzurel</author><text>I had a very interesting discussion about this subject a couple of weeks ago with a CTO of a big company.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve commented before that Kube absolutely takes over the bigger more complex cloud installations out there, you can see how many companies are betting their infrastructure on it.&lt;p&gt;The only thing that I don&amp;#x27;t see is standardization of the cloud, just like what Amazon did. You see too many companies doing too many of the same things and reinventing the wheel.&lt;p&gt;Personally, I would love to see smaller installation as a standard of how to take things into the cloud as a cluster. Imagine what Heroku did to deployments. You can&amp;#x27;t beat this ease of use. Deis and Convox are both trying but not really &amp;quot;hitting it&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;As for Walmart, absolutely stoked seeing it from them. This move and what the white-house did with the digital shows a lot of promise and hope. I wonder how much of this is on top of &amp;quot;older&amp;quot; management and how much is just complete restructuring.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Walmart Will Manage Distribution Centers with OneOps, Jenkins, and Kubernetes</title><url>http://www.techbetter.com/walmart-will-manage-200-distribution-centers-oneops-jenkins-nexus-kubernetes/</url></story>