<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>jtode</author><text>The spam is the biggest issue. We never solved it there, and it&amp;#x27;s only being controlled on usenet&amp;#x27;s imitators through tight control, which is not a feature of usenet.&lt;p&gt;One setup I could see working is a pubkey setup where anyone who posts, always encrypts with their private key, and anyone you want to hear from, you add their public key to your list of keys you decrypt to read.&lt;p&gt;Aggregators can occupy public keys as their &amp;quot;address&amp;quot; and any aggregator that gets obnoxious, you just trim it from your list, which only contains things you&amp;#x27;ve either let in or accepted via slates or whitelists.&lt;p&gt;Then the spammers can do whatever they like, really.&lt;p&gt;I believe the main reason usenet faded so thoroughly was that it became a piracy distribution platform very early on (not sure which came first, the pirate booty or the porn booty, but I&amp;#x27;m guessing porn), and very quickly there came a kind of unspoken &amp;quot;don&amp;#x27;t talk about usenet&amp;quot; code among those who already knew about it. At the time, Napster and bittorrent were the main targets of the authorities and IP trolls and usenet was just doing a Jim-From-The-Office-smirking-through-the-blinds.</text><parent_chain><item><author>mindcrime</author><text>I was in an AI conference yesterday, and there was a bunch of discussion in the chat about Slack channels, Discord servers, etc. So I was literally just lamenting the state of shared discussion forums, and commented that we all need to go back to Usenet and drop all these lame &amp;quot;walled garden&amp;quot; proprietary forums.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;d like to tell people &amp;quot;install Thunderbird, sign up for a free Usenet provider, and join comp.ai, comp.misc, etc and have fun.&amp;quot; But I&amp;#x27;m a bit leery of encouraging people to do that since I&amp;#x27;m not sure what the state of spam being sent to the various Usenet groups is, or how providers are handling spam filtering (if at all).&lt;p&gt;That said, there&amp;#x27;s definitely a place for NNTP &amp;#x2F; Usenet. It might take some work to fix up some issues, but it would be great to see vibrant &amp;#x2F; fruitful discussions via Usenet again.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>USENET rises again?</title><url>https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/30/usenet_revival/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>reidrac</author><text>&amp;gt; sign up for a free Usenet provider&lt;p&gt;Sorry, but you make it sound like there are many. That allow posting, and free, I think I only know one.</text><parent_chain><item><author>mindcrime</author><text>I was in an AI conference yesterday, and there was a bunch of discussion in the chat about Slack channels, Discord servers, etc. So I was literally just lamenting the state of shared discussion forums, and commented that we all need to go back to Usenet and drop all these lame &amp;quot;walled garden&amp;quot; proprietary forums.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;d like to tell people &amp;quot;install Thunderbird, sign up for a free Usenet provider, and join comp.ai, comp.misc, etc and have fun.&amp;quot; But I&amp;#x27;m a bit leery of encouraging people to do that since I&amp;#x27;m not sure what the state of spam being sent to the various Usenet groups is, or how providers are handling spam filtering (if at all).&lt;p&gt;That said, there&amp;#x27;s definitely a place for NNTP &amp;#x2F; Usenet. It might take some work to fix up some issues, but it would be great to see vibrant &amp;#x2F; fruitful discussions via Usenet again.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>USENET rises again?</title><url>https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/30/usenet_revival/</url></story>