<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>michaelteter</author><text>I moved a Gsuite client to Zoho because once or twice a week, an email from one person at the custom domain to another person in the same custom domain (company) would have their direct email get put into spam in Gmail.&lt;p&gt;You would really think that Google would whitelist emails within the same custom domain which is paying for Gsuite service.  Maybe that has changed, but it was definitely a problem 5 years ago.&lt;p&gt;And we&amp;#x27;re not talking about an email which had some copy&amp;#x2F;paste of spam, we&amp;#x27;re talking about a one or two line sentence giving an instruction or asking a question to a colleague.</text><parent_chain><item><author>user3939382</author><text>&amp;gt; The _real_ problem is reliably getting your 100% legit mail into your consenting recipients&amp;#x27; inboxes&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s amazing that having someone in your address book isn&amp;#x27;t enough in many cases. Like, why?</text></item><item><author>c0l0</author><text>Having been a part-time postmaster for more than a decade by now, I fully agree, and would even go further: Ingress spam is pretty much a solved problem if you play your cards right. ChatGPT et al. might change that again - but the mechanisms you can deploy today are very effective against the current UBE landscape.&lt;p&gt;The _real_ problem is reliably getting your 100% legit mail into your consenting recipients&amp;#x27; inboxes.</text></item><item><author>that_courtney</author><text>I feel like this solution is optimizing the wrong problem.&lt;p&gt;The bulk of work with managing a mail server (these days) isn&amp;#x27;t software setup and admin. On the receiving side, it&amp;#x27;s all the work dealing with abuse and attacks. On the sending side -- and this is the tough one -- it&amp;#x27;s getting sites to accept your email. When I finally gave up managing my own mail server (about two years ago), I found that about every six months I was involved in some panic where some large mail provider (Microsoft and Google most frequently) decided they didn&amp;#x27;t want to accept email from my server. Solving these issues is neither easy nor quick.&lt;p&gt;These days I&amp;#x27;m very happy to pay somebody else to run email services using my provided domains.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Poste.io – Complete Mail Server</title><url>https://poste.io/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>makeitdouble</author><text>I’d guess the main issue is, the big guys don’t care about you. Like, at all.&lt;p&gt;If they pass their log through a scanner, come up with a few dozen small servers that look fishy (e.g your IP is contiguous to some other spammer’s IP), and yours is rope in as false positive, you’re banned.&lt;p&gt;And from there you’ll have to convince Google that you’ve done nothing wrong.</text><parent_chain><item><author>user3939382</author><text>&amp;gt; The _real_ problem is reliably getting your 100% legit mail into your consenting recipients&amp;#x27; inboxes&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s amazing that having someone in your address book isn&amp;#x27;t enough in many cases. Like, why?</text></item><item><author>c0l0</author><text>Having been a part-time postmaster for more than a decade by now, I fully agree, and would even go further: Ingress spam is pretty much a solved problem if you play your cards right. ChatGPT et al. might change that again - but the mechanisms you can deploy today are very effective against the current UBE landscape.&lt;p&gt;The _real_ problem is reliably getting your 100% legit mail into your consenting recipients&amp;#x27; inboxes.</text></item><item><author>that_courtney</author><text>I feel like this solution is optimizing the wrong problem.&lt;p&gt;The bulk of work with managing a mail server (these days) isn&amp;#x27;t software setup and admin. On the receiving side, it&amp;#x27;s all the work dealing with abuse and attacks. On the sending side -- and this is the tough one -- it&amp;#x27;s getting sites to accept your email. When I finally gave up managing my own mail server (about two years ago), I found that about every six months I was involved in some panic where some large mail provider (Microsoft and Google most frequently) decided they didn&amp;#x27;t want to accept email from my server. Solving these issues is neither easy nor quick.&lt;p&gt;These days I&amp;#x27;m very happy to pay somebody else to run email services using my provided domains.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Poste.io – Complete Mail Server</title><url>https://poste.io/</url></story>