<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>Sohcahtoa82</author><text>American SWE salaries can be insane, but I&amp;#x27;m shocked at how &lt;i&gt;low&lt;/i&gt; SWE salaries are in Europe.&lt;p&gt;I was expecting salaries to cool off a bit with the massive wave of layoffs across the industry, but from what I&amp;#x27;ve seen, that hasn&amp;#x27;t happened.</text><parent_chain><item><author>pluijzer</author><text>As a side, I am a bit shocked by these numbers. Is this an American thing? I understand myself to be good software engineer with good well rounded experience of 14+ years. Yet my income, in Europe, is really above 100k.&lt;p&gt;What I am wondering, for those earning 500k, how big is your work load&amp;#x2F;stress. Would this be a 9-5 job you leave at the office when going home. Or does a job that earns so much consume your life?</text></item><item><author>pdksam</author><text>200k is too small, strong sde1s at Amazon get paid that much in hcol areas. Closer to 500k.</text></item><item><author>Dave3of5</author><text>Interesting numbers. That roughly equates to about $250 million per year plus I don&amp;#x27;t know how much training is costing them to keep the model up to date and suchlike.&lt;p&gt;The company also has about 375 employees. I&amp;#x27;ve no idea how much they get paid but I used $200k as a yearly cost and that comes to $75 million.&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s about 3:1 cost of operating the services to paying employees. That seems quite high as I&amp;#x27;ve never been at a company that had 1:1 costs for running servers vs employee costs but I could entirely be off base here.&lt;p&gt;Given Sam Altman&amp;#x27;s recent comments on the days of these LLM being over I think maybe Microsoft or whomever is basically saying that they can&amp;#x27;t spend that much money and they need to control costs much more heavily.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>ChatGPT could cost over $700k per day to operate</title><url>https://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-chatgpt-costs-openai-to-run-estimate-report-2023-4</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>lightbendover</author><text>I’ve been through both horror (endless 100 hour weeks) and bliss (just attending meetings and not really stressing about much of anything) in that range.  It’s highly variable.</text><parent_chain><item><author>pluijzer</author><text>As a side, I am a bit shocked by these numbers. Is this an American thing? I understand myself to be good software engineer with good well rounded experience of 14+ years. Yet my income, in Europe, is really above 100k.&lt;p&gt;What I am wondering, for those earning 500k, how big is your work load&amp;#x2F;stress. Would this be a 9-5 job you leave at the office when going home. Or does a job that earns so much consume your life?</text></item><item><author>pdksam</author><text>200k is too small, strong sde1s at Amazon get paid that much in hcol areas. Closer to 500k.</text></item><item><author>Dave3of5</author><text>Interesting numbers. That roughly equates to about $250 million per year plus I don&amp;#x27;t know how much training is costing them to keep the model up to date and suchlike.&lt;p&gt;The company also has about 375 employees. I&amp;#x27;ve no idea how much they get paid but I used $200k as a yearly cost and that comes to $75 million.&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s about 3:1 cost of operating the services to paying employees. That seems quite high as I&amp;#x27;ve never been at a company that had 1:1 costs for running servers vs employee costs but I could entirely be off base here.&lt;p&gt;Given Sam Altman&amp;#x27;s recent comments on the days of these LLM being over I think maybe Microsoft or whomever is basically saying that they can&amp;#x27;t spend that much money and they need to control costs much more heavily.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>ChatGPT could cost over $700k per day to operate</title><url>https://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-chatgpt-costs-openai-to-run-estimate-report-2023-4</url></story>