<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>analyte123</author><text>Child protection is like a loaded gun sitting on a table waiting for someone to pick it up. Anyone who doesn&amp;#x27;t like you or the way you raise your kids can phone in a trumped-up complaint and send investigators in your home to see if your child needs to be taken away and put into a lowest-bidder archipelago of foster homes and group facilities. Disgusting all around to me.</text><parent_chain><item><author>candiodari</author><text>The whole thing there can be reduced to the observation: why does society let foster care and youth protective services exist?&lt;p&gt;You might say &amp;quot;well to protect kids&amp;quot;. Except, there&amp;#x27;s a massive body of research proving that they make things worse, certainly on average:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;sci-hub.se&amp;#x2F;10.1257&amp;#x2F;aer.97.5.1583&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;sci-hub.se&amp;#x2F;10.1257&amp;#x2F;aer.97.5.1583&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Massive negative effects, from reading scores, to later earnings, to subjective happiness (yes, really, kids report more happiness &lt;i&gt;while being abused&lt;/i&gt; than in youth services), to later crimes.&lt;p&gt;So no youth protection is better for everyone. This is obvious in the case of scandals and the many &amp;quot;accidents&amp;quot;. But it is true in general. And it is true for everyone. No child protection is better for the kid, for families (obviously I guess), &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; due to the increase in crime if we destroyed youth protection causes, it is better for society itself. If you start checking, you will find that youth protection is involved in the raising of many of the worst criminals we&amp;#x27;ve ever known.&lt;p&gt;Even child psychiatry and &amp;quot;special needs schools&amp;quot; ... well. Comparing symptoms upon entry and symptoms upon exit paints a very clear picture that really questions why they&amp;#x27;re allowed to exist.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;sci-hub.se&amp;#x2F;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;link.springer.com&amp;#x2F;article&amp;#x2F;10.1007&amp;#x2F;s00787-017-1048-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;sci-hub.se&amp;#x2F;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;link.springer.com&amp;#x2F;article&amp;#x2F;10.1007...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;And then of course there&amp;#x27;s the many scandals that these people keep and keep and keep producing. Abuse within foster families is &lt;i&gt;higher&lt;/i&gt; than in families in youth protection services. In institutions it is a &lt;i&gt;lot&lt;/i&gt; higher.&lt;p&gt;So they don&amp;#x27;t protect kids.&lt;p&gt;And crimes are astronomically higher in both foster care and institutional care (and youth psychiatry).&lt;p&gt;So they don&amp;#x27;t protect society against those kids either.</text></item><item><author>ipython</author><text>Don’t forget the 2008 kids for cash scandal: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Kids_for_cash_scandal&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Kids_for_cash_scandal&lt;/a&gt;. At least those judges were eventually tried and are serving time.</text></item><item><author>chidog12</author><text>&amp;gt; Judge Les Hayes once sentenced a single mother to 496 days behind bars for failing to pay traffic tickets. The sentence was so stiff it exceeded the jail time Alabama allows for negligent homicide.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Johnson’s three children were cast into foster care while she was incarcerated. One daughter was molested, state records show. Another was physically abused.&lt;p&gt;Speechless... Makes my blood boil</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Thousands of U.S. judges who broke laws, oaths remained on the bench</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-judges-misconduct-specialreport/special-report-thousands-of-us-judges-who-broke-laws-oaths-remained-on-the-bench-idUSKBN2411WG</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>remmargorp64</author><text>So where is a child supposed to go when their parents have died or been imprisoned? Should they just be homeless? What alternative do you envision?</text><parent_chain><item><author>candiodari</author><text>The whole thing there can be reduced to the observation: why does society let foster care and youth protective services exist?&lt;p&gt;You might say &amp;quot;well to protect kids&amp;quot;. Except, there&amp;#x27;s a massive body of research proving that they make things worse, certainly on average:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;sci-hub.se&amp;#x2F;10.1257&amp;#x2F;aer.97.5.1583&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;sci-hub.se&amp;#x2F;10.1257&amp;#x2F;aer.97.5.1583&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Massive negative effects, from reading scores, to later earnings, to subjective happiness (yes, really, kids report more happiness &lt;i&gt;while being abused&lt;/i&gt; than in youth services), to later crimes.&lt;p&gt;So no youth protection is better for everyone. This is obvious in the case of scandals and the many &amp;quot;accidents&amp;quot;. But it is true in general. And it is true for everyone. No child protection is better for the kid, for families (obviously I guess), &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; due to the increase in crime if we destroyed youth protection causes, it is better for society itself. If you start checking, you will find that youth protection is involved in the raising of many of the worst criminals we&amp;#x27;ve ever known.&lt;p&gt;Even child psychiatry and &amp;quot;special needs schools&amp;quot; ... well. Comparing symptoms upon entry and symptoms upon exit paints a very clear picture that really questions why they&amp;#x27;re allowed to exist.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;sci-hub.se&amp;#x2F;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;link.springer.com&amp;#x2F;article&amp;#x2F;10.1007&amp;#x2F;s00787-017-1048-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;sci-hub.se&amp;#x2F;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;link.springer.com&amp;#x2F;article&amp;#x2F;10.1007...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;And then of course there&amp;#x27;s the many scandals that these people keep and keep and keep producing. Abuse within foster families is &lt;i&gt;higher&lt;/i&gt; than in families in youth protection services. In institutions it is a &lt;i&gt;lot&lt;/i&gt; higher.&lt;p&gt;So they don&amp;#x27;t protect kids.&lt;p&gt;And crimes are astronomically higher in both foster care and institutional care (and youth psychiatry).&lt;p&gt;So they don&amp;#x27;t protect society against those kids either.</text></item><item><author>ipython</author><text>Don’t forget the 2008 kids for cash scandal: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Kids_for_cash_scandal&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Kids_for_cash_scandal&lt;/a&gt;. At least those judges were eventually tried and are serving time.</text></item><item><author>chidog12</author><text>&amp;gt; Judge Les Hayes once sentenced a single mother to 496 days behind bars for failing to pay traffic tickets. The sentence was so stiff it exceeded the jail time Alabama allows for negligent homicide.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Johnson’s three children were cast into foster care while she was incarcerated. One daughter was molested, state records show. Another was physically abused.&lt;p&gt;Speechless... Makes my blood boil</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Thousands of U.S. judges who broke laws, oaths remained on the bench</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-judges-misconduct-specialreport/special-report-thousands-of-us-judges-who-broke-laws-oaths-remained-on-the-bench-idUSKBN2411WG</url></story>