<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>larsberg</author><text>&amp;#62; Sitting in classes listening to an instructor spend a whole week explaining how a &quot;for&quot; loop works to students who for the most part won&apos;t be able to successfully write their own &quot;for&quot; loop by the time they graduate (with a 3.5 GPA in CS).&lt;p&gt;That may be true at some places, but certainly not in the intro curriculum at the UofC. The intro course for majors with no background uses the Scheme-based How to Design Programs curriculum, which doesn&apos;t even _have_ a for loop :-)&lt;p&gt;The honors intro, which I assume this student would enroll in, is a quite challenging curriculum, expecting students to learn scheme, haskell, perl, bash, and some basic parsing tools over the course of a quarter. And do reasonable things with them.&lt;p&gt;So, while I&apos;m certainly biased as a grad student here at the UofC, I could promise the student they won&apos;t be getting slowly spoon-fed language features. Even if they took the intro CS curriculum for non-majors in the sciences.</text><parent_chain><item><author>jasonkester</author><text>Awesome.  And I feel for this guy, knowing what the next four years is going to be like for him.  Sitting in classes listening to an instructor spend a whole week explaining how a &quot;for&quot; loop works to students who for the most part won&apos;t be able to successfully write their own &quot;for&quot; loop by the time they graduate (with a 3.5 GPA in CS).&lt;p&gt;I wish there was a degree path in &quot;software&quot; rather than &quot;computer science&quot;, since that&apos;s what a kid like this needs.  Turning algorithms into code is clearly solved for him.  But I bet a few years of turning &quot;nothing&quot; into &quot;shipping software&quot; would be a lot more useful (or at least a lot less of a waste of time).</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Show HN: UChicago admissions asked me to find Waldo. I did.</title><url>https://github.com/jacobsevart/waldo_uchicago</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>borplk</author><text>It is difficult to say this without sounding arrogant but my god did I suffer during my college years because of this.&lt;p&gt;Every class, every project, every assignment I felt damn I already know all this.&lt;p&gt;It also makes team work a torture. I didn&apos;t want to ruin other people&apos;s experience by being the know it all guy.
So I just avoided teamwork as much as I could because pretending that I&apos;m challenged by the question/project
got even more depressing.&lt;p&gt;Having to pay thousands of dollars for it makes it even harder (I simply &lt;i&gt;had&lt;/i&gt; to do it as I&apos;m not a citizen).
I&apos;d think man there&apos;s so much more that I could do with this money I&apos;m paying for something I already know.&lt;p&gt;That&apos;s not to say I think I know a lot, in fact I think I know very little but just that the college wasn&apos;t providing anything new for me (and yes it was one of the top ones).&lt;p&gt;I&apos;m learning more by reading books and posts on the internet, hacker news, etc... and by doing actual work in the industry.</text><parent_chain><item><author>jasonkester</author><text>Awesome.  And I feel for this guy, knowing what the next four years is going to be like for him.  Sitting in classes listening to an instructor spend a whole week explaining how a &quot;for&quot; loop works to students who for the most part won&apos;t be able to successfully write their own &quot;for&quot; loop by the time they graduate (with a 3.5 GPA in CS).&lt;p&gt;I wish there was a degree path in &quot;software&quot; rather than &quot;computer science&quot;, since that&apos;s what a kid like this needs.  Turning algorithms into code is clearly solved for him.  But I bet a few years of turning &quot;nothing&quot; into &quot;shipping software&quot; would be a lot more useful (or at least a lot less of a waste of time).</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Show HN: UChicago admissions asked me to find Waldo. I did.</title><url>https://github.com/jacobsevart/waldo_uchicago</url></story>