<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>aeternum</author><text>&amp;gt; the marketplace failed to provide both affordable milk and the ability for dairy farmers to make a living.&lt;p&gt;So the price is both two low and too high?  This is not a failure of the marketplace (aka price discovery), this is the U.S. deciding that cheap milk and overproduction is in the nation&amp;#x27;s best interest and we should socialize some of the production costs.&lt;p&gt;There are logical (milk as a staple product and avoidance of shortages), and illogical (milk lobby takes too much effort to oppose) reasons for it, but it is not a marketplace failure.  Remove the subsidies and the market would quickly find the higher price at which dairy farmers could produce milk profitably and consumers would purchase it.</text><parent_chain><item><author>claudiulodro</author><text>&amp;gt; You want to pay $2 dollars for milk, instead of $20? That&amp;#x27;s thanks to competition between companies.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s not though. &amp;quot;The support granted to U.S dairy producers represented approximately [...] 73% of the farmers&amp;#x27; marketplace revenue.  USDA data also reveals that US dairy farmers operate at a loss, and have a cost of production that is higher than what they earn from the marketplace.&amp;quot;[1]&lt;p&gt;We&amp;#x27;re subsidizing the low cost of milk via taxes because the marketplace failed to provide both affordable milk and the ability for dairy farmers to make a living.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;markets.businessinsider.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;stocks&amp;#x2F;american-dairy-farmers-depend-on-government-subsidies-1015126442&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;markets.businessinsider.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;stocks&amp;#x2F;american-dai...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>simonebrunozzi</author><text>&amp;gt; You should expect &amp;quot;equal pay for equal work&amp;quot; at your new remote job&lt;p&gt;So naive.&lt;p&gt;In an ideal, utopian world? Maybe it would work this way. Maybe.&lt;p&gt;In reality, your compensation is a function of your negotiating power. Some people, in fact, manage to get the same pay even when working remote, because they&amp;#x27;re &amp;quot;highly employable&amp;quot;. Others don&amp;#x27;t.&lt;p&gt;And let me add: I almost agree that remote work shouldn&amp;#x27;t necessarily command the same pay. A company&amp;#x27;s goal is to &amp;quot;extract&amp;quot; from each employee more value than his&amp;#x2F;her&amp;#x2F;their salary. If a company manages to save on a salary because the employee doesn&amp;#x27;t have much negotiating power, good for the company.&lt;p&gt;This is not to say that a company should do anything it wants, far from it. It simply means that if you accept that you live in a market-enabled society, your salary is at stake, too. You want to pay $2 dollars for milk, instead of $20? That&amp;#x27;s thanks to competition between companies. That&amp;#x27;s market forces at play. You want it there? Accept it on salary negotiation too.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>&quot;Equal pay for equal work&quot; in remote jobs</title><url>https://www.nityesh.com/equal-pay-for-equal-work-at-a-remote-company/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>cmrdporcupine</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s sort of the opposite here in Canada, where dairy production is managed on a quota system (you need quota to produce and sell) and the quota is regulated such that the price remains stable (and more expensive than in the US) for the benefit of the farmers who have quota and in theory the public, who has a reliable &amp;quot;reasonable&amp;quot; price.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s dubious on many levels, but has its defenders.</text><parent_chain><item><author>claudiulodro</author><text>&amp;gt; You want to pay $2 dollars for milk, instead of $20? That&amp;#x27;s thanks to competition between companies.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s not though. &amp;quot;The support granted to U.S dairy producers represented approximately [...] 73% of the farmers&amp;#x27; marketplace revenue.  USDA data also reveals that US dairy farmers operate at a loss, and have a cost of production that is higher than what they earn from the marketplace.&amp;quot;[1]&lt;p&gt;We&amp;#x27;re subsidizing the low cost of milk via taxes because the marketplace failed to provide both affordable milk and the ability for dairy farmers to make a living.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;markets.businessinsider.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;stocks&amp;#x2F;american-dairy-farmers-depend-on-government-subsidies-1015126442&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;markets.businessinsider.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;stocks&amp;#x2F;american-dai...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>simonebrunozzi</author><text>&amp;gt; You should expect &amp;quot;equal pay for equal work&amp;quot; at your new remote job&lt;p&gt;So naive.&lt;p&gt;In an ideal, utopian world? Maybe it would work this way. Maybe.&lt;p&gt;In reality, your compensation is a function of your negotiating power. Some people, in fact, manage to get the same pay even when working remote, because they&amp;#x27;re &amp;quot;highly employable&amp;quot;. Others don&amp;#x27;t.&lt;p&gt;And let me add: I almost agree that remote work shouldn&amp;#x27;t necessarily command the same pay. A company&amp;#x27;s goal is to &amp;quot;extract&amp;quot; from each employee more value than his&amp;#x2F;her&amp;#x2F;their salary. If a company manages to save on a salary because the employee doesn&amp;#x27;t have much negotiating power, good for the company.&lt;p&gt;This is not to say that a company should do anything it wants, far from it. It simply means that if you accept that you live in a market-enabled society, your salary is at stake, too. You want to pay $2 dollars for milk, instead of $20? That&amp;#x27;s thanks to competition between companies. That&amp;#x27;s market forces at play. You want it there? Accept it on salary negotiation too.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>&quot;Equal pay for equal work&quot; in remote jobs</title><url>https://www.nityesh.com/equal-pay-for-equal-work-at-a-remote-company/</url></story>