<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>23david</author><text>Interesting! Wonder if it&amp;#x27;s a quality control issue with the code handling the graphics switching. Afaik, Apple engineers write custom video drivers for every supported hardware device. Wonder if Intel is now contributing more to the graphics driver updates and maintenance.</text><parent_chain><item><author>wortendyke</author><text>I was also experiencing something like this. I would open lots of tabs, and at some point the machine would freeze and I would need to do a hard reboot. This got worse after installing Yosemite, where I could rarely go a day without having to reboot my system.&lt;p&gt;I was about to take my laptop in to see if it was a hardware issue when a coworker pointed me to a forum where someone suggested turning off automatic graphics switching. I did that about two weeks ago, and since then I haven&amp;#x27;t had a single occurrence of the issue. You may want to try the same thing to see if it helps.</text></item><item><author>SkyMarshal</author><text>Fwiw I can crash the entire OS by abusing tabs in Chrome.  Too many tabs open =&amp;gt; System freeze, hard reboot required.  OS X Mavericks on MBPr 15&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;That shouldn&amp;#x27;t be possible.  Crash the browser yes, not the whole OS.</text></item><item><author>23david</author><text>would be interesting to hear what the distinction is between useless and core features.&lt;p&gt;Maybe I&amp;#x27;m just not hitting core features with OSX 10.10, but the features I&amp;#x27;m using seem fine. And not seeing stability issues with third-party software.</text></item><item><author>throwawayosx</author><text>current apple engineer... the sprint (milestone) development system is still in place... it&amp;#x27;s not the problem though, it&amp;#x27;s the problem is the focus on new useless [imo] features at the expense of core functionality and quality&lt;p&gt;hope marco, geoff and others keep writing these articles so that eventually tim or someone sees one and shakes things up.  pressure from the bottom has not worked so far</text></item><item><author>CoolGuySteve</author><text>Former OS X developer here.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;d say the biggest change in the development methodology happened when Bertrand Serlet was replaced with Craig Federighi.&lt;p&gt;With Bertrand, we would move in giant monolithic releases where every group would just dump in whatever they had ready and the whole thing would get released with nightly builds.  With SnowLeopard in particular, I remember three dozen releases in a row where Xcode was unusable due to obj-c garbage collection issues.  Random stuff you didn&amp;#x27;t expect like CoreGraphics would have showstopper issues and then we&amp;#x27;d report it and it would get fixed by the next week.&lt;p&gt;This resulted in extremely late releases that had a ton of bugs that we piled patches onto as time went on.&lt;p&gt;Craig moved the organization onto a sprint system, where we would develop new features for 2 weeks and then spend a week fixing bugs.  After 10 or 12 or 16 of these cycles, we would deem it ready and ship it out.&lt;p&gt;I felt this produced more stable but more conservative software.  It seemed like giant rewrites and massive features would be very difficult to introduce and if they did get done, wouldn&amp;#x27;t happen until two thirds or so into the release cycle.&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, Craig has consistently been able to release on time with most of the features promised.&lt;p&gt;I was only there up to the release of Lion (the first Craig release), so I don&amp;#x27;t know how updates and patches worked from then on.  Maybe they&amp;#x27;re worse now.&lt;p&gt;But I&amp;#x27;ve been using OS X all this time, and honestly I don&amp;#x27;t think it&amp;#x27;s any worse than before.&lt;p&gt;What has changed is that releases and features happen more often.  Tiger and Leopard had a good 2 years to mature and get patches while their delayed successors missed target dates.  In the meantime they stagnated with ancient unix tools, safari build, QuickTime frameworks, graphics drivers etc.&lt;p&gt;They felt stable because they were just old, sort of like Debian stable.  Meanwhile, the development versions of Leopard and Snow Leopard (the two I spent most of my career at Apple developing) were downright horrible and unreleasable.  Each of those releases went gold and had an almost immediate .1 release to fix glaring issues.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s just that you remember them better because they had a longer history as a stable legacy OS than the modern versions.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Apple has lost the functional high ground</title><url>http://www.marco.org/2015/01/04/apple-lost-functional-high-ground</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>23david</author><text>Interesting! Wonder if it&amp;#x27;s a quality control issue with the code handling the graphics switching. Afaik, Apple engineers write custom video drivers for every supported hardware device. Wonder if Intel is now contributing more to the graphics device efforts.</text><parent_chain><item><author>wortendyke</author><text>I was also experiencing something like this. I would open lots of tabs, and at some point the machine would freeze and I would need to do a hard reboot. This got worse after installing Yosemite, where I could rarely go a day without having to reboot my system.&lt;p&gt;I was about to take my laptop in to see if it was a hardware issue when a coworker pointed me to a forum where someone suggested turning off automatic graphics switching. I did that about two weeks ago, and since then I haven&amp;#x27;t had a single occurrence of the issue. You may want to try the same thing to see if it helps.</text></item><item><author>SkyMarshal</author><text>Fwiw I can crash the entire OS by abusing tabs in Chrome.  Too many tabs open =&amp;gt; System freeze, hard reboot required.  OS X Mavericks on MBPr 15&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;That shouldn&amp;#x27;t be possible.  Crash the browser yes, not the whole OS.</text></item><item><author>23david</author><text>would be interesting to hear what the distinction is between useless and core features.&lt;p&gt;Maybe I&amp;#x27;m just not hitting core features with OSX 10.10, but the features I&amp;#x27;m using seem fine. And not seeing stability issues with third-party software.</text></item><item><author>throwawayosx</author><text>current apple engineer... the sprint (milestone) development system is still in place... it&amp;#x27;s not the problem though, it&amp;#x27;s the problem is the focus on new useless [imo] features at the expense of core functionality and quality&lt;p&gt;hope marco, geoff and others keep writing these articles so that eventually tim or someone sees one and shakes things up.  pressure from the bottom has not worked so far</text></item><item><author>CoolGuySteve</author><text>Former OS X developer here.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;d say the biggest change in the development methodology happened when Bertrand Serlet was replaced with Craig Federighi.&lt;p&gt;With Bertrand, we would move in giant monolithic releases where every group would just dump in whatever they had ready and the whole thing would get released with nightly builds.  With SnowLeopard in particular, I remember three dozen releases in a row where Xcode was unusable due to obj-c garbage collection issues.  Random stuff you didn&amp;#x27;t expect like CoreGraphics would have showstopper issues and then we&amp;#x27;d report it and it would get fixed by the next week.&lt;p&gt;This resulted in extremely late releases that had a ton of bugs that we piled patches onto as time went on.&lt;p&gt;Craig moved the organization onto a sprint system, where we would develop new features for 2 weeks and then spend a week fixing bugs.  After 10 or 12 or 16 of these cycles, we would deem it ready and ship it out.&lt;p&gt;I felt this produced more stable but more conservative software.  It seemed like giant rewrites and massive features would be very difficult to introduce and if they did get done, wouldn&amp;#x27;t happen until two thirds or so into the release cycle.&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, Craig has consistently been able to release on time with most of the features promised.&lt;p&gt;I was only there up to the release of Lion (the first Craig release), so I don&amp;#x27;t know how updates and patches worked from then on.  Maybe they&amp;#x27;re worse now.&lt;p&gt;But I&amp;#x27;ve been using OS X all this time, and honestly I don&amp;#x27;t think it&amp;#x27;s any worse than before.&lt;p&gt;What has changed is that releases and features happen more often.  Tiger and Leopard had a good 2 years to mature and get patches while their delayed successors missed target dates.  In the meantime they stagnated with ancient unix tools, safari build, QuickTime frameworks, graphics drivers etc.&lt;p&gt;They felt stable because they were just old, sort of like Debian stable.  Meanwhile, the development versions of Leopard and Snow Leopard (the two I spent most of my career at Apple developing) were downright horrible and unreleasable.  Each of those releases went gold and had an almost immediate .1 release to fix glaring issues.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s just that you remember them better because they had a longer history as a stable legacy OS than the modern versions.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Apple has lost the functional high ground</title><url>http://www.marco.org/2015/01/04/apple-lost-functional-high-ground</url></story>