<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>caymanjim</author><text>Kubernetes is so much more than most people should want or need. It&amp;#x27;s far too complicated and heavyweight for smaller or simpler deployments. In AWS, most people should use ECS&amp;#x2F;Fargate instead. There are other competing container environments as well. Your point still stands; Docker popularized containerization and are in danger of becoming irrelevant because they ceded the container execution environment to others.</text><parent_chain><item><author>filleokus</author><text>It feels like Docker (Inc) is becoming less and less &amp;quot;relevant&amp;quot; for each year that passes. At least from my perspective, they led the popularisation of containerisation and the whole cattle-not-pets approach of deploying apps. They created big and long lasting change in the industry.&lt;p&gt;But they seem to have lost the production environment race to Kubernetes, at least for now. They are the biggest player in the dev-machine market, but more alternatives are popping up making it even harder to monetise. And containerd isn&amp;#x27;t a part of Docker (Inc) any more.&lt;p&gt;They do have Docker Hub, and its privileged position as the default registry of all Docker installs. But I don&amp;#x27;t really see why paying (i.e enterprise) customers would pick Docker Hub over their friendly neighbourhood cloud provider registry where they already have contracts.&lt;p&gt;Will Docker start rate limiting the public free repos even harder? Maybe making big orgs pay for the privilege of being hosted in the default docker registry? Charging to have the images &amp;quot;verified&amp;quot;?&lt;p&gt;Anyways, I hope Docker find some viable business model, it would be sad to see them fail commercially after arguably succeeding in changing the (devops) world.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Docker Raises $23M</title><url>https://www.docker.com/press-release/Docker-Series-B</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>anandrm</author><text>IMO docker did an amazing paradigm shift of many apps from heavy weight VMs to Micro Services,lot in CI&amp;#x2F;CD  etc .. But all of them dnt make sense without an orchestration platform . Just like how a standalone VM does not make any commercial sense. This has been a question for long time about their revenue model. I guess they did try with compose , swarm , etc but the space was already taken by Kubernetes . I dnt know docker as company would be profitable ..</text><parent_chain><item><author>filleokus</author><text>It feels like Docker (Inc) is becoming less and less &amp;quot;relevant&amp;quot; for each year that passes. At least from my perspective, they led the popularisation of containerisation and the whole cattle-not-pets approach of deploying apps. They created big and long lasting change in the industry.&lt;p&gt;But they seem to have lost the production environment race to Kubernetes, at least for now. They are the biggest player in the dev-machine market, but more alternatives are popping up making it even harder to monetise. And containerd isn&amp;#x27;t a part of Docker (Inc) any more.&lt;p&gt;They do have Docker Hub, and its privileged position as the default registry of all Docker installs. But I don&amp;#x27;t really see why paying (i.e enterprise) customers would pick Docker Hub over their friendly neighbourhood cloud provider registry where they already have contracts.&lt;p&gt;Will Docker start rate limiting the public free repos even harder? Maybe making big orgs pay for the privilege of being hosted in the default docker registry? Charging to have the images &amp;quot;verified&amp;quot;?&lt;p&gt;Anyways, I hope Docker find some viable business model, it would be sad to see them fail commercially after arguably succeeding in changing the (devops) world.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Docker Raises $23M</title><url>https://www.docker.com/press-release/Docker-Series-B</url></story>