<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>jiggy2011</author><text>How is that a cop out? You get your money back so whatever use you got from it was effectively free apart from the minor inconvenience of moving over to another service (which they are kind enough to make suggestions for).</text><parent_chain><item><author>MartinMond</author><text>Wasn&apos;t Breeze sold as &quot;Pay once - use forever&quot;? It&apos;s a joke that they now just cop out via &quot;yeah we&apos;ll refund your money&quot;.&lt;p&gt;Compare this to Backpack that was also discontinued but since it&apos;s paid for monthly, 37signals decided to let existing customers continue to pay and receive their service.&lt;p&gt;So Backpack stays alive (albeit without new signups) since it continues to make them money, but Breeze gets closed and all customers get shafted. Even thought Breeze was sold as &quot;forever&quot; while Backpack was sold as &quot;monthly&quot;.&lt;p&gt;And let&apos;s not forget that Backpack needs a lot more (security) updates and maintenance than a simple mail server for mailing lists.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Breeze is closing on August 1</title><url>http://basecamp.com/breeze/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>andyhmltn</author><text>Yes, you could take the wording literally, but it&apos;s physically impossible to continue a service forever. When I pay $5 or whatever to use it forever, I don&apos;t expect to be sitting at my computer at 95 doing so.</text><parent_chain><item><author>MartinMond</author><text>Wasn&apos;t Breeze sold as &quot;Pay once - use forever&quot;? It&apos;s a joke that they now just cop out via &quot;yeah we&apos;ll refund your money&quot;.&lt;p&gt;Compare this to Backpack that was also discontinued but since it&apos;s paid for monthly, 37signals decided to let existing customers continue to pay and receive their service.&lt;p&gt;So Backpack stays alive (albeit without new signups) since it continues to make them money, but Breeze gets closed and all customers get shafted. Even thought Breeze was sold as &quot;forever&quot; while Backpack was sold as &quot;monthly&quot;.&lt;p&gt;And let&apos;s not forget that Backpack needs a lot more (security) updates and maintenance than a simple mail server for mailing lists.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Breeze is closing on August 1</title><url>http://basecamp.com/breeze/</url></story>