<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>freyir</author><text>&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;why there are such a few percentage of older folks in engineering&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;No, there&amp;#x27;s a small percentage of older folks in &lt;i&gt;software engineering&lt;/i&gt;. In almost any other engineering discipline, you&amp;#x27;ll find many older engineers who enjoy long careers, and whose perceived value often grows with age. That&amp;#x27;s because actual engineering principles change very slowly.&lt;p&gt;Most software jobs do not involve much engineering in the traditional sense; most of the effort is keeping up with the constant churn of flavor-of-the-week libraries and frameworks, information that will be often be outdated and useless in a few years.</text><parent_chain><item><author>throwaway6497</author><text>Age discrimination for older software engineers is real. It gets enforced in subtle ways. It is up or out culture at the end.&lt;p&gt;Age discrimination doesn&amp;#x27;t get the same coverage as gender, race or sexual orientation discrimination. I wish companies also added age in the diversity reports, and if they did talk about why there are such a few percentage of older folks in engineering. If we wish to make engineering career to span several decades, we should all actively try to get o address this.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>IBM purged ‘gray hairs’ and ‘old heads’ as it launched Millennial Corps: lawsuit</title><url>https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/03/27/ibm-purged-gray-hairs-and-old-heads-as-it-launched-millennial-corps-lawsuit/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>jpindar</author><text>We could start right here on HN by calling out those who use &amp;quot;grandma&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;person who can hardly even use a computer&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;People who are now old enough to be grandparents INVENTED computers and the internet.</text><parent_chain><item><author>throwaway6497</author><text>Age discrimination for older software engineers is real. It gets enforced in subtle ways. It is up or out culture at the end.&lt;p&gt;Age discrimination doesn&amp;#x27;t get the same coverage as gender, race or sexual orientation discrimination. I wish companies also added age in the diversity reports, and if they did talk about why there are such a few percentage of older folks in engineering. If we wish to make engineering career to span several decades, we should all actively try to get o address this.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>IBM purged ‘gray hairs’ and ‘old heads’ as it launched Millennial Corps: lawsuit</title><url>https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/03/27/ibm-purged-gray-hairs-and-old-heads-as-it-launched-millennial-corps-lawsuit/</url></story>