<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>dilap</author><text>Not saying it&amp;#x27;s true for you, but everyone I knew at college that was working full-time was in my opinion getting far less out of college than they would have. You need time to ponder, to explore, to be curious.&lt;p&gt;Having to grind insane hours just to get in the game might be workable for the very dedicated and tough, but it&amp;#x27;s certainly not an optimal experience, and something we should strive to make not necessary.</text><parent_chain><item><author>mkirklions</author><text>People hate when I talk about working fulltime in the factory on the midnight shift and going to school fulltime.&lt;p&gt;I didnt get &amp;#x27;the college experience&amp;#x27;. But I didnt have any college debt, I became a hardened adult that didnt cry when plant people got pissed. I dont complain. If something needs to get done, I do it.&lt;p&gt;Graduated in 3 years with my chem engineering degree at age 21.&lt;p&gt;People will always complain about something. &amp;quot;You should pay for a dorm, food, education from top individuals, books, knowledge, all for spending 200 hours in the summer at a clothing store&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;I did a factory full time midnight shift job, all year, lived off campus + commuted. Ate at home too.&lt;p&gt;This comes at the cost of the &amp;#x27;College Experience&amp;quot;</text></item><item><author>anoncoward111</author><text>it&amp;#x27;s already a shame that the answer isn&amp;#x27;t 100% yes, 100% of the time.&lt;p&gt;back in the 70s, tuition was payable with a summer job and job prospects were decent enough despite geopolitical and economic headwinds&lt;p&gt;these days, the same problems plague the job market, but every year of college costs 1 year of salary, unless you qualify for stackable forms of financial aid</text></item><item><author>paulpauper</author><text>The NYTimes republishes a variant of this articles almost every month&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;search?q=site:nytimes.com+college+worth+it&amp;amp;rlz=1C1CHBF_enTR752TR752&amp;amp;ei=h6j9WuawLeba6ASAvKu4DA&amp;amp;start=10&amp;amp;sa=N&amp;amp;biw=1745&amp;amp;bih=818&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;search?q=site:nytimes.com+college+wor...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;The usual answer is &amp;quot;it depends&amp;quot;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>College May Not Be Worth It Anymore</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/opinion/college-useful-cost-jobs.html</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>mtberatwork</author><text>The point is that there was a time when you could have worked that factory job during the summer to pay for the next year&amp;#x27;s tuition. I&amp;#x27;m sure you would concede that this is much more reasonable than working a full time job on top of a full time university load.</text><parent_chain><item><author>mkirklions</author><text>People hate when I talk about working fulltime in the factory on the midnight shift and going to school fulltime.&lt;p&gt;I didnt get &amp;#x27;the college experience&amp;#x27;. But I didnt have any college debt, I became a hardened adult that didnt cry when plant people got pissed. I dont complain. If something needs to get done, I do it.&lt;p&gt;Graduated in 3 years with my chem engineering degree at age 21.&lt;p&gt;People will always complain about something. &amp;quot;You should pay for a dorm, food, education from top individuals, books, knowledge, all for spending 200 hours in the summer at a clothing store&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;I did a factory full time midnight shift job, all year, lived off campus + commuted. Ate at home too.&lt;p&gt;This comes at the cost of the &amp;#x27;College Experience&amp;quot;</text></item><item><author>anoncoward111</author><text>it&amp;#x27;s already a shame that the answer isn&amp;#x27;t 100% yes, 100% of the time.&lt;p&gt;back in the 70s, tuition was payable with a summer job and job prospects were decent enough despite geopolitical and economic headwinds&lt;p&gt;these days, the same problems plague the job market, but every year of college costs 1 year of salary, unless you qualify for stackable forms of financial aid</text></item><item><author>paulpauper</author><text>The NYTimes republishes a variant of this articles almost every month&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;search?q=site:nytimes.com+college+worth+it&amp;amp;rlz=1C1CHBF_enTR752TR752&amp;amp;ei=h6j9WuawLeba6ASAvKu4DA&amp;amp;start=10&amp;amp;sa=N&amp;amp;biw=1745&amp;amp;bih=818&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;search?q=site:nytimes.com+college+wor...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;The usual answer is &amp;quot;it depends&amp;quot;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>College May Not Be Worth It Anymore</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/opinion/college-useful-cost-jobs.html</url></story>