<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>conductr</author><text>We pay CNA&amp;#x27;s $12&amp;#x2F;hr in some markets. Their job is like daycare but geriatrics instead of toddlers. It&amp;#x27;s a lot of hands on service on both ends of the gastrointestinal tract. There are RN&amp;#x27;s around in fewer numbers that earn more and do the actual clinical parts.</text><parent_chain><item><author>ac29</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m curious where in the US are healthcare workers getting less than $15&amp;#x2F;hr and what kind of work it is. Even the sort of jobs that require no certification, no degree, and no experience seem to pay quite a bit more than that.</text></item><item><author>conductr</author><text>&amp;gt; The employers aren’t raising their wages either&lt;p&gt;They are. It takes time but they are. I work in a business that is having a hard time hiring entry level healthcare workers because Walmart and Amazon warehoueses is now paying $15-20&amp;#x2F;hr when it was only $12 pre-covid. Walmart and Amazon would only raise wages if they truly had a labor supply issue, which they do, we all do.</text></item><item><author>yepthatsreality</author><text>Sure but this goes beyond restaurants in my opinion. Look at these states that had mass migration of people during the pandemic. You will find the (big) sky-rocketing cost of living where those who are moving in on a whim are also not seeking jobs in the state. However all these businesses need employees to handle the new increase in customers. The employers aren’t raising their wages either, which is also not attracting people to work. When the lower classes are forced to move elsewhere (Outside the cities) then this problem will get worse.&lt;p&gt;Return to office might have some reverse effect but online remote employees can be one of the biggest generators of this problem.</text></item><item><author>namdnay</author><text>Honestly, as necessary as that is, it’s not a magic solution. People are quitting the restaurant industry in France too, despite having none of the tip silliness.&lt;p&gt;It’s just that people are realizing that there are easier minimum wage jobs than working in a kitchen</text></item><item><author>yepthatsreality</author><text>The restaurant industry has known the solution for a long time but everyone wants to pretend it would be too difficult.&lt;p&gt;Stop the tipping guilt trip placed on the public, raise your prices 20%, and pay your employees a livable wage. The public will still show up to eat in your restaurant.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Restaurant workers quit at record rate</title><url>https://www.npr.org/2021/07/20/1016081936/low-pay-no-benefits-rude-customers-restaurant-workers-quit-at-record-rate</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>FireBeyond</author><text>EMTs and paramedics.&lt;p&gt;Often working 24, 36 or even 48 hour shifts.&lt;p&gt;Often for $15&amp;#x2F;hr or less (many places will pay EMTs literally minimum wage, and tell their employees, &amp;quot;you can have as much OT as you want&amp;quot;).&lt;p&gt;Part of it is supply and demand. Private EMS is often an in-road or holding pattern to a more &amp;quot;cushy&amp;quot; unionized fire department EMS position (where firefighter paramedics can make into the six digits). So private EMS has little motivation to be competitive - &amp;quot;there&amp;#x27;s a line of 21 year olds who will happily take your job&amp;quot;.</text><parent_chain><item><author>ac29</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m curious where in the US are healthcare workers getting less than $15&amp;#x2F;hr and what kind of work it is. Even the sort of jobs that require no certification, no degree, and no experience seem to pay quite a bit more than that.</text></item><item><author>conductr</author><text>&amp;gt; The employers aren’t raising their wages either&lt;p&gt;They are. It takes time but they are. I work in a business that is having a hard time hiring entry level healthcare workers because Walmart and Amazon warehoueses is now paying $15-20&amp;#x2F;hr when it was only $12 pre-covid. Walmart and Amazon would only raise wages if they truly had a labor supply issue, which they do, we all do.</text></item><item><author>yepthatsreality</author><text>Sure but this goes beyond restaurants in my opinion. Look at these states that had mass migration of people during the pandemic. You will find the (big) sky-rocketing cost of living where those who are moving in on a whim are also not seeking jobs in the state. However all these businesses need employees to handle the new increase in customers. The employers aren’t raising their wages either, which is also not attracting people to work. When the lower classes are forced to move elsewhere (Outside the cities) then this problem will get worse.&lt;p&gt;Return to office might have some reverse effect but online remote employees can be one of the biggest generators of this problem.</text></item><item><author>namdnay</author><text>Honestly, as necessary as that is, it’s not a magic solution. People are quitting the restaurant industry in France too, despite having none of the tip silliness.&lt;p&gt;It’s just that people are realizing that there are easier minimum wage jobs than working in a kitchen</text></item><item><author>yepthatsreality</author><text>The restaurant industry has known the solution for a long time but everyone wants to pretend it would be too difficult.&lt;p&gt;Stop the tipping guilt trip placed on the public, raise your prices 20%, and pay your employees a livable wage. The public will still show up to eat in your restaurant.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Restaurant workers quit at record rate</title><url>https://www.npr.org/2021/07/20/1016081936/low-pay-no-benefits-rude-customers-restaurant-workers-quit-at-record-rate</url></story>