<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>jayliew</author><text>I don&apos;t get why so many people are attacking Vivek. Step back from trying to eval() every single tiny detail to death. The &lt;i&gt;bigger&lt;/i&gt; point here is that he is helping shine a light on a huuuuuge pain for immigrant founders in the US that hasn&apos;t gotten much attention (or a solution), all this while. Why is that a bad thing?&lt;p&gt;The DEA has been cracking down on druggies since forever, and it&apos;s been beating the same drum ever since. Such a boring agency, find a new pet theme already. People already know drugs are bad, right? If it&apos;s not for people like Vivek, who else is going to get the attention of someone who has the political power to change the laws? All you naysayers?&lt;p&gt;The old adage holds: It doesn&apos;t matter what you good do on this planet, there will always be small % of people who attack you no matter what.&lt;p&gt;Disclosure: I went through the painful F-1, then H-1B route, and now that I have my (conditional) green card, now life begins: I&apos;m burning my savings building a startup in Silicon Valley (hello Hacker Dojo!)&lt;p&gt;p.s. apologies for the slightly inflammatory comment, I generally don&apos;t get myself into frickin&apos; drama on the internets, but this is a topic that hits a very very very sore spot for me, and I couldn&apos;t just not say anything.</text><parent_chain><item><author>tokenadult</author><text>Yet another Vivek Wadhwa story with his same pet theme. Here is my question: is there any Vivek Wadhwa story on this issue in which he shows detailed figures for NET immigration flows into and out of the United States in comparison to countries like China and India? Or does he consistently do as I have seen him do here and in other stories, relating individual anecdotes and asserting the existence of a problem (too few high-skill immigrants to the United States from India or from China) that may not actually exist? What do other authors have to say about this subject?&lt;p&gt;And, by the way, what countries offer better opportunities for immigration to found start-up businesses for young people from India and China than the United States offers? What are those countries&apos; rules about immigration? Do young people from African countries also find it easy to emigrate to those other countries? Can anyone from anywhere in the world settle in any European Union country to found a start-up high-tech business? Is it possible for foreigners to settle in China or in India to found start-up businesses? What visa rules apply to cases like that?</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Why Silicon Valley Immigrant Entrepreneurs Are Returning Home</title><url>http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/06/why-silicon-valley-immigrant-entrepreneurs-are-returning-home/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>jseliger</author><text>&lt;i&gt;in which he shows detailed figures for NET immigration flows into and out of the United States in comparison to countries like China and India?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Funny, I was just coming to the comments page to say exactly this. The linked post is conspicuous for its lack of words like &quot;study&quot; or &quot;statistics.&quot; Talking to a couple of random people does not qualify a trend that stretches to millions of people.&lt;p&gt;It&apos;s pretty obvious that the U.S. immigration system is fucked up and should be much improved. But you can&apos;t jump from that to the conclusion that so many immigrants are going home as to affect Silicon Valley.</text><parent_chain><item><author>tokenadult</author><text>Yet another Vivek Wadhwa story with his same pet theme. Here is my question: is there any Vivek Wadhwa story on this issue in which he shows detailed figures for NET immigration flows into and out of the United States in comparison to countries like China and India? Or does he consistently do as I have seen him do here and in other stories, relating individual anecdotes and asserting the existence of a problem (too few high-skill immigrants to the United States from India or from China) that may not actually exist? What do other authors have to say about this subject?&lt;p&gt;And, by the way, what countries offer better opportunities for immigration to found start-up businesses for young people from India and China than the United States offers? What are those countries&apos; rules about immigration? Do young people from African countries also find it easy to emigrate to those other countries? Can anyone from anywhere in the world settle in any European Union country to found a start-up high-tech business? Is it possible for foreigners to settle in China or in India to found start-up businesses? What visa rules apply to cases like that?</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Why Silicon Valley Immigrant Entrepreneurs Are Returning Home</title><url>http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/06/why-silicon-valley-immigrant-entrepreneurs-are-returning-home/</url></story>