<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>ralfn</author><text>&amp;gt;&amp;quot;enterprisify&amp;quot; docker into something very different. That&amp;#x27;s probably not fair though.&lt;p&gt;But that&amp;#x27;s actually the industry containers are good for. Enterprise. Predictability trumps costs. The flaws of docker may over time get fixed. It&amp;#x27;s the small companies and startups that are making a fool of themselves by pretending they extract any kind of value out of docker.&lt;p&gt;Imagine a large 100+ man software project that spans two years and involves four different organisations collaborating. There are at least 100+ non-technical &amp;#x27;knowledge workers&amp;#x27; interacting with this process. The people have the intent of &amp;#x27;not being responsible for anything&amp;#x27;, but establishing their position&amp;#x2F;role so their cost&amp;#x2F;budget is validated. You know, the typical large-scale Oracle&amp;#x2F;Cap-Gemini&amp;#x2F;IBM clusterfuck of incompetence.&lt;p&gt;But that&amp;#x27;s the secret! They aren&amp;#x27;t incompetent at all (as organisations). They sell something no-one else sells. They sell predictability.&lt;p&gt;Because for all what it&amp;#x27;s worth: they don&amp;#x27;t make huge architectural fuck ups. They make their deadline. And they are able to deliver something, even with this many stakeholders pissing all over the project from any direction.&lt;p&gt;For them, docker is brilliant. It standardizes something. It doesn&amp;#x27;t do it very well, but that doesn&amp;#x27;t matter. They aren&amp;#x27;t in a low-margin world. &amp;quot;Docker isn&amp;#x27;t really secure, you really should run every docker image in a separate VM&amp;quot;. Sure. These sort of people are paying 500-1000 per instance anyway. No one cares. Coordinating devops with this many stakeholders, now _thats_ expensive.&lt;p&gt;The quality of the actual technology (much like on the web itself) is initially irrelevant. The value is in the fact there&amp;#x27;s a contract. A standard. Docker is a bad implementation of reasonable idea. The question isn&amp;#x27;t if it&amp;#x27;s a good technical choice. No, it&amp;#x27;s not. But it&amp;#x27;s organisational and economically more compatible with the rest of world.&lt;p&gt;And you know what? At least those enterprise idiots will run JVM instances on their docker images, so if they need more than three servers it&amp;#x27;s not because they are incompetent (like every startup wasting their time on cloud orchestration stuff). At least when they pay the price in complexity for building something scalable it&amp;#x27;s because they actually need something scalable.</text><parent_chain><item><author>tyingq</author><text>My kneejerk reaction is that a senior leader from Concur, then SAP, is going to buzzword bingo and &amp;quot;enterprisify&amp;quot; docker into something very different.  That&amp;#x27;s probably not fair though. Concur is a pretty big success story, sold for $8B, and it appears some good decisions drove that.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO</title><url>https://blog.docker.com/2017/05/introducing-docker-new-ceo/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>vertex-four</author><text>Docker has been targeting enterprise use cases for a good while now. Frankly, aside from in development, it&amp;#x27;s not terribly useful until you get to a certain scale which requires a certain development model (complete separation of application and storage, different teams managing different components, etc).</text><parent_chain><item><author>tyingq</author><text>My kneejerk reaction is that a senior leader from Concur, then SAP, is going to buzzword bingo and &amp;quot;enterprisify&amp;quot; docker into something very different.  That&amp;#x27;s probably not fair though. Concur is a pretty big success story, sold for $8B, and it appears some good decisions drove that.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO</title><url>https://blog.docker.com/2017/05/introducing-docker-new-ceo/</url></story>