<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>veidr</author><text>Two guys that IBM was paying to work on server-side Swift are stepping down from the server working group (presumably because IBM decided not to pay them to do that anymore).&lt;p&gt;I think these guys were best known for Kitura, the (previously) IBM-backed web app framework.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t do web apps in Swift &amp;quot;for realz&amp;quot; (I use TypeScript and tools like Angular and Koa.js for that kind of thing), but I do use Swift on Linux and have built some toy ones using both Kitura and Vapor.&lt;p&gt;My impression is that Vapor gained a lot more traction than Kitura did, so in some ways this might just be &amp;quot;the market choosing&amp;quot; and Kitura heading for the sunset.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>IBM Stops Server Side Swift Framework Development</title><url>https://forums.swift.org/t/december-12th-2019/31735</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>tannernelson</author><text>While it&amp;#x27;s sad to see IBM go, Vapor and the Swift Server working group are alive and more active than ever&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;vapor&amp;#x2F;vapor&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;vapor&amp;#x2F;vapor&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;swift.org&amp;#x2F;server&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;swift.org&amp;#x2F;server&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Amazon has also created a Swift web framework:
&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;amzn&amp;#x2F;smoke-framework&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;amzn&amp;#x2F;smoke-framework&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>IBM Stops Server Side Swift Framework Development</title><url>https://forums.swift.org/t/december-12th-2019/31735</url></story>