<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>paulgb</author><text>If you really want to be pedantic, if he &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a cofounder, he &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; a cofounder too. As Mitch Hedberg said, &quot;I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to too&quot;</text><parent_chain><item><author>swombat</author><text>There&apos;s no such thing as &quot;was a cofounder&quot;. Once you&apos;re a cofounder, you always are, even if you&apos;re kicked out of your company or leave for any reason. Steve Jobs was still cofounder of Apple when he was kicked out of it.</text></item><item><author>spydertennis</author><text>Oops, the information on that page is outdated. Greg is a co-founder of WakeMate.&lt;p&gt;Edit: as per swombat&apos;s comment below changed &quot;was&quot; to &quot;is&quot;</text></item><item><author>csmeder</author><text>Interesting Greg Nemeth is listed as on WakeMate&apos;s about page &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wakemate.com/about/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.wakemate.com/about/&lt;/a&gt; as a cofounder of the company that produces WakeMate.&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;   &quot;Greg Nemeth is Co-Founder and President of Perfect 
   Third, Inc. He manages WakeMate’s finances, 
   communications, and marketing strategy. Greg 
   studied business at Boston College until he left 
   to pursue WakeMate full-time.&quot;
   
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According to this blog post he seems to have secretly started a competing company and used WakeMates email list? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.indiegogo.com/MiLifePlus&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.indiegogo.com/MiLifePlus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Its a shame WakeMate didn&apos;t end up succeeding, it was one of my favorite YC startup ideas.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>WakeMate Update</title><url>http://blog.wakemate.com/2012/06/27/wakemate-update/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>alanh</author><text>What about the reverse? If one co-founder leaves, does that make you “founder” and not co-founder?</text><parent_chain><item><author>swombat</author><text>There&apos;s no such thing as &quot;was a cofounder&quot;. Once you&apos;re a cofounder, you always are, even if you&apos;re kicked out of your company or leave for any reason. Steve Jobs was still cofounder of Apple when he was kicked out of it.</text></item><item><author>spydertennis</author><text>Oops, the information on that page is outdated. Greg is a co-founder of WakeMate.&lt;p&gt;Edit: as per swombat&apos;s comment below changed &quot;was&quot; to &quot;is&quot;</text></item><item><author>csmeder</author><text>Interesting Greg Nemeth is listed as on WakeMate&apos;s about page &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wakemate.com/about/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.wakemate.com/about/&lt;/a&gt; as a cofounder of the company that produces WakeMate.&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;   &quot;Greg Nemeth is Co-Founder and President of Perfect 
   Third, Inc. He manages WakeMate’s finances, 
   communications, and marketing strategy. Greg 
   studied business at Boston College until he left 
   to pursue WakeMate full-time.&quot;
   
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According to this blog post he seems to have secretly started a competing company and used WakeMates email list? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.indiegogo.com/MiLifePlus&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.indiegogo.com/MiLifePlus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Its a shame WakeMate didn&apos;t end up succeeding, it was one of my favorite YC startup ideas.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>WakeMate Update</title><url>http://blog.wakemate.com/2012/06/27/wakemate-update/</url></story>