<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>mlyle</author><text>Sure!  If you&amp;#x27;re dumping a bunch of capital into something, you want to see that capital put to work immediately growing something to scale-- not for founders to be worried about stretching the capital by picking up nickels off the street.&lt;p&gt;That is, being capital efficient is good, but being distracted by other non-core things excessively to try and conserve capital is bad.&lt;p&gt;But that doesn&amp;#x27;t mean that bootstrapping with a consultancy isn&amp;#x27;t a viable path.  It&amp;#x27;s only when you do it when you have capital sitting around that&amp;#x27;s not put to good use that it&amp;#x27;s a problem.</text><parent_chain><item><author>Msw242</author><text>VCs actively dissuade founders from doing professional services.</text></item><item><author>PragmaticPulp</author><text>This is an underrated path, IMO.&lt;p&gt;Consulting is an excellent way to hone the non-coding skills necessary for bootstrapping a company: Scoping projects, timeline estimation, choosing tradeoffs, &lt;i&gt;finishing&lt;/i&gt; things, selling things, presenting products to others.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s also helpful to be able to get out and talk to other businesses and people on a regular basis. Bootstrapping can be extremely lonely in a way that is hard to understand if you&amp;#x27;ve only ever worked inside of companies with people to talk to.</text></item><item><author>nhance</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m 16 years in and have followed a similar path. I graduated college in 2004, started my business in 2005 and never took a job.&lt;p&gt;Consulting has gotten me here and I&amp;#x27;ve had up to 4 direct hires with me, but my dream has always been to run a product business. I must have attempted 3 dozen different ideas by this point.&lt;p&gt;But on Friday last week, we reached our 100th subscriber. Combined with other free products, we now have over 130k daily active users which sounds more impressive than it is. The MRR is still tiny and we still rely heavily on consulting projects that have been more and more difficult to line up.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s been difficult, sometimes extraordinarily so, but we have such happy customers with huge amounts of positive feedback. It feels like this could really go somewhere. The fire still burns brightly within me though I don&amp;#x27;t know how. I&amp;#x27;m determined not to let opportunities pass me by again.&lt;p&gt;I have never shared this anywhere.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Failed for the past 12 years as an tech entrepreneur</title><text>Back when I was 24, I pretty much hated my 9-5 job because of lack of control over my destiny, the limit of earnings and growth and the idea of going to the office every single day. I realized I could start something of my own.&lt;p&gt;So I started to look for something easy to do work on that would not consume a lot of my time. Blogs were a rage back then and multi-million dollar exits were quite common. I bought a domain and installed WordPress and started blogging after my working hours. I started a technology blog in the hope to replicate the success of Mashable and Techcrunch. I spent about 4 hours every night covering tech news about companies and social media in general.&lt;p&gt;2 years passed and I burned out myself. Traffic to the blog was flat and I was not making any meaningful money. I shut it down.&lt;p&gt;A few months later, I started a website that pulled information from Amazon and displayed dresses in a fancy and intuitive website. I opened a Facebook page, spent a lot of time marketing it and eventually made a grand total of 2 sales in a span of 3 months.&lt;p&gt;I decided to give up.&lt;p&gt;The very next year, I decided to build a note-taking web app that was a mash of Google calendar and a to-do list app. The idea was that people would see today&amp;#x27;s schedule by default and they would easily add and manage tasks.&lt;p&gt;I hosted it for a few months and lost interest due to a lack of customers.&lt;p&gt;After taking a break for a year or so, I decided to do something ground-breaking. I built my version of Facebook Groups&amp;#x2F;Slack that would allow people to share something interesting with others. You could create groups and add&amp;#x2F;remove people from them. The UI was fancy and a few of my friends and family loved it.&lt;p&gt;A few months after running it, I shut it down. I found it hard to justify its existence since everybody else was using Facebook groups and with the rise of mobile apps that allowed seamless sharing, my application made no sense.&lt;p&gt;Sensing an opportunity in media space again, I then started a news aggregator website that aggregated news titles from hundreds of outlets storing thousands of news articles per day. The website was smart enough to cluster the news articles based on topics which, Google news does well. People loved it and it got great reviews, but it was not growing fast enough.&lt;p&gt;And like earlier, I ran out of patience after 6 months and I shut it down.&lt;p&gt;After multiple failures, I decided to take a longer break. I had pretty much given up my entrepreneurship journey knowing there was no way I could build a reasonably successful business.&lt;p&gt;A year passed and I started to feel uneasy with myself and my day job.&lt;p&gt;So, I built a stupid web app that cleaned new articles by stripping them off of ads and showing only the relevant content. I shared it and got no real feedback from others. Nobody cared.&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s where it hit me, why not pivot to and a link management platform? I thought it&amp;#x27;s so easy to build and manage it. I could feel the tingling in my body. I built https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blanq.io&amp;#x2F; with the excitement of a toddler.&lt;p&gt;I was so wrong.&lt;p&gt;I spent the next 1 year building the landing page, the entire web app plus some extra features in a hope that it will take off.&lt;p&gt;For the first 18 months, I had no paying customers. I put everything into this. All my previous experiences of failures and learning went into building this platform. &amp;quot;How could I fail?&amp;quot; I thought.&lt;p&gt;I then decided to stick to it and give myself 3 years to decide its fate.&lt;p&gt;On the 19th month, my efforts started to pay off. I landed my first customers then 2nd and then 3rd.... and so on. It&amp;#x27;s been 8 months since then and I now have 10 paying customers using my platform almost every day and growing every month.&lt;p&gt;My learning:&lt;p&gt;1.Don&amp;#x27;t quit too soon and don&amp;#x27;t be too hard on yourself.&lt;p&gt;2.With each failure, you do get better at not failing.&lt;p&gt;3.You improve at everything as time passes - marketing, programming, sales, operations.</text></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>richardw</author><text>VC’s don’t want you distracted from their one shot at your next 18 months. They’d rather you go for broke and flame out rather than building a 5-year runway that allows you to slowly tune your ideas.&lt;p&gt;Neither is better than the other, but one might be better for a given situation.</text><parent_chain><item><author>Msw242</author><text>VCs actively dissuade founders from doing professional services.</text></item><item><author>PragmaticPulp</author><text>This is an underrated path, IMO.&lt;p&gt;Consulting is an excellent way to hone the non-coding skills necessary for bootstrapping a company: Scoping projects, timeline estimation, choosing tradeoffs, &lt;i&gt;finishing&lt;/i&gt; things, selling things, presenting products to others.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s also helpful to be able to get out and talk to other businesses and people on a regular basis. Bootstrapping can be extremely lonely in a way that is hard to understand if you&amp;#x27;ve only ever worked inside of companies with people to talk to.</text></item><item><author>nhance</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m 16 years in and have followed a similar path. I graduated college in 2004, started my business in 2005 and never took a job.&lt;p&gt;Consulting has gotten me here and I&amp;#x27;ve had up to 4 direct hires with me, but my dream has always been to run a product business. I must have attempted 3 dozen different ideas by this point.&lt;p&gt;But on Friday last week, we reached our 100th subscriber. Combined with other free products, we now have over 130k daily active users which sounds more impressive than it is. The MRR is still tiny and we still rely heavily on consulting projects that have been more and more difficult to line up.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s been difficult, sometimes extraordinarily so, but we have such happy customers with huge amounts of positive feedback. It feels like this could really go somewhere. The fire still burns brightly within me though I don&amp;#x27;t know how. I&amp;#x27;m determined not to let opportunities pass me by again.&lt;p&gt;I have never shared this anywhere.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Failed for the past 12 years as an tech entrepreneur</title><text>Back when I was 24, I pretty much hated my 9-5 job because of lack of control over my destiny, the limit of earnings and growth and the idea of going to the office every single day. I realized I could start something of my own.&lt;p&gt;So I started to look for something easy to do work on that would not consume a lot of my time. Blogs were a rage back then and multi-million dollar exits were quite common. I bought a domain and installed WordPress and started blogging after my working hours. I started a technology blog in the hope to replicate the success of Mashable and Techcrunch. I spent about 4 hours every night covering tech news about companies and social media in general.&lt;p&gt;2 years passed and I burned out myself. Traffic to the blog was flat and I was not making any meaningful money. I shut it down.&lt;p&gt;A few months later, I started a website that pulled information from Amazon and displayed dresses in a fancy and intuitive website. I opened a Facebook page, spent a lot of time marketing it and eventually made a grand total of 2 sales in a span of 3 months.&lt;p&gt;I decided to give up.&lt;p&gt;The very next year, I decided to build a note-taking web app that was a mash of Google calendar and a to-do list app. The idea was that people would see today&amp;#x27;s schedule by default and they would easily add and manage tasks.&lt;p&gt;I hosted it for a few months and lost interest due to a lack of customers.&lt;p&gt;After taking a break for a year or so, I decided to do something ground-breaking. I built my version of Facebook Groups&amp;#x2F;Slack that would allow people to share something interesting with others. You could create groups and add&amp;#x2F;remove people from them. The UI was fancy and a few of my friends and family loved it.&lt;p&gt;A few months after running it, I shut it down. I found it hard to justify its existence since everybody else was using Facebook groups and with the rise of mobile apps that allowed seamless sharing, my application made no sense.&lt;p&gt;Sensing an opportunity in media space again, I then started a news aggregator website that aggregated news titles from hundreds of outlets storing thousands of news articles per day. The website was smart enough to cluster the news articles based on topics which, Google news does well. People loved it and it got great reviews, but it was not growing fast enough.&lt;p&gt;And like earlier, I ran out of patience after 6 months and I shut it down.&lt;p&gt;After multiple failures, I decided to take a longer break. I had pretty much given up my entrepreneurship journey knowing there was no way I could build a reasonably successful business.&lt;p&gt;A year passed and I started to feel uneasy with myself and my day job.&lt;p&gt;So, I built a stupid web app that cleaned new articles by stripping them off of ads and showing only the relevant content. I shared it and got no real feedback from others. Nobody cared.&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s where it hit me, why not pivot to and a link management platform? I thought it&amp;#x27;s so easy to build and manage it. I could feel the tingling in my body. I built https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blanq.io&amp;#x2F; with the excitement of a toddler.&lt;p&gt;I was so wrong.&lt;p&gt;I spent the next 1 year building the landing page, the entire web app plus some extra features in a hope that it will take off.&lt;p&gt;For the first 18 months, I had no paying customers. I put everything into this. All my previous experiences of failures and learning went into building this platform. &amp;quot;How could I fail?&amp;quot; I thought.&lt;p&gt;I then decided to stick to it and give myself 3 years to decide its fate.&lt;p&gt;On the 19th month, my efforts started to pay off. I landed my first customers then 2nd and then 3rd.... and so on. It&amp;#x27;s been 8 months since then and I now have 10 paying customers using my platform almost every day and growing every month.&lt;p&gt;My learning:&lt;p&gt;1.Don&amp;#x27;t quit too soon and don&amp;#x27;t be too hard on yourself.&lt;p&gt;2.With each failure, you do get better at not failing.&lt;p&gt;3.You improve at everything as time passes - marketing, programming, sales, operations.</text></story>