<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>atourgates</author><text>&amp;gt; The Ugly: Really expensive, even in the context of past MacBook Pros.&lt;p&gt;I find this conclusion, and the article&amp;#x27;s discussion of Apple&amp;#x27;s current laptop lineup, to be the most interesting part of the article.&lt;p&gt;In comparison to the 2015 13&amp;quot; MacBook pro, you get some minor hardware updates, a bit of increased thinness, some changes to ports, and the honor of paying an extra $200.&lt;p&gt;It doesn&amp;#x27;t seem like a very good value, especially when it&amp;#x27;s the bottom of the lineup distinguished more by what&amp;#x27;s missing (touch bar, touchID and extra ports) than what it adds to last year&amp;#x27;s model.&lt;p&gt;I was hoping that the marketplace would punish them, but if Schiller&amp;#x27;s comments about the new MacBook Pro getting more orders than any previous pro model are accurate, it looks like I&amp;#x27;m in the minority.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Review: The MacBook Pro is an expensive MacBook Air on the inside</title><url>http://m.arstechnica.com/apple/2016/11/review-cheapest-2016-macbook-pro-is-good-but-its-missing-all-the-cool-stuff/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>gnicholas</author><text>It is amazing that a review in Ars recommends—even for a subset of users—getting a refurb last-gen model. But I give them credit for making this honest assessment.&lt;p&gt;Just yesterday I was thinking that when I upgrade from my current laptop (the recently-discontinued 11&amp;quot; MBA), it will likely be to a used 13&amp;quot; MBP. If money and dongles were no object, I&amp;#x27;d take the plunge on a new one. (But cost is a consideration for me, and dongles is a consideration for everyone!)</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Review: The MacBook Pro is an expensive MacBook Air on the inside</title><url>http://m.arstechnica.com/apple/2016/11/review-cheapest-2016-macbook-pro-is-good-but-its-missing-all-the-cool-stuff/</url></story>