<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>beauHD</author><text>&amp;gt; However, the worst case situation is that they lie about not tracking users and then they get hit with a LEO request they bow down to.&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s within reason though. A VPN is another ISP afterall, so they have to &amp;#x27;bow down&amp;#x27; to law enforcement requests. What LEAs can get depends on how zero knowledge the VPN setup is. OVPN[0] for example has been &amp;#x27;court tested&amp;#x27; and Mullvad had nothing to give to authorities[1] since they don&amp;#x27;t collect it in the first place (apart from payment metadata).&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m not affiliated with OVPN or Mullvad, just a happy paying customer.&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ovpn.com&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;blog&amp;#x2F;ovpn-wins-court-order&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ovpn.com&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;blog&amp;#x2F;ovpn-wins-court-order&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;mullvad.net&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;blog&amp;#x2F;2023&amp;#x2F;4&amp;#x2F;20&amp;#x2F;mullvad-vpn-was-subject-to-a-search-warrant-customer-data-not-compromised&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;mullvad.net&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;blog&amp;#x2F;2023&amp;#x2F;4&amp;#x2F;20&amp;#x2F;mullvad-vpn-was-subjec...&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>2023 Paid VPN Relationship and Corporate VPN Ownership Map</title><url>https://windscribe.com/vpnmap</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>askura</author><text>An update to the 2022 VPN affiliate relationship map. A handy reference for who is owned by who - including their status or whether they&amp;#x27;re actually part of a bigger corporation.&lt;p&gt;The reference article for the map itself with key updates &amp;amp; findings: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blog.windscribe.com&amp;#x2F;the-vpn-relationship-map-2023&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blog.windscribe.com&amp;#x2F;the-vpn-relationship-map-2023&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>2023 Paid VPN Relationship and Corporate VPN Ownership Map</title><url>https://windscribe.com/vpnmap</url></story>