<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>kortilla</author><text>The realities of regions don’t go away. It’s a primitive to save you money. If a new entrant doesn’t have it they are either just operating in one region or you’re paying cross-region prices for everything.</text><parent_chain><item><author>kkielhofner</author><text>People forget AWS is 20 years old. When I routinely remind people of that fact they often remark (incredulously) with &amp;quot;WHAT? Really?&amp;quot; When I think about it the entire paradigm of &amp;quot;regions&amp;quot; itself seems completely antiquated in the grand scheme of things. AWS has made a few moves on this but in the end you&amp;#x27;re largely still tied to this fundamental regional concept in terms of control planes, etc and you incur the ridiculousness that is VPCs, wild billing and availability issues, all kinds of hacks, stacks, and effort all over the place to have multiple regions&amp;#x2F;AZs, etc.&lt;p&gt;I suspect that later starters like Fly, Cloudflare, etc with their approaches of (more or less) compute at edge with no concept of region etc will grow more and more to dominate the cloud space with AWS region-based approaches primarily relegated to &amp;quot;legacy applications&amp;quot; that are stuck there. It may take a generation or so to get there but more and more the next crop of startups, etc are building on things like Fly instead of AWS and friends.&lt;p&gt;When I think about it the region based approaches are more akin to &amp;quot;hosted elastic datacenter&amp;quot; than they are what could be described as a &amp;quot;true cloud&amp;quot; - where it&amp;#x27;s just everywhere and not even a consideration.</text></item><item><author>geraldwhen</author><text>“ The result of this is an Internet where all of the world&amp;#x27;s CRUD apps are hosted in Loudoun County, VA (motto: &amp;quot;where tradition meets innovation&amp;quot;), at Amazon&amp;#x27;s us-east-1 in Ashburn, a city with so many Rails apps that one of them was elected to the county Board of Supervisors.”&lt;p&gt;So true it hurts</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>We raised a bunch of money</title><url>https://fly.io/blog/we-raised-a-bunch-of-money/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>bfung</author><text>Stateless compute is relatively simple to be region-less, but even fly’s homepage has a map of regions.&lt;p&gt;When state is introduced, then CAP&amp;#x2F;PACELC distributed systems issues arise, and figuring out approaches to deal with them are a must. Read fly’s Postgres docs, and regions come right back in.</text><parent_chain><item><author>kkielhofner</author><text>People forget AWS is 20 years old. When I routinely remind people of that fact they often remark (incredulously) with &amp;quot;WHAT? Really?&amp;quot; When I think about it the entire paradigm of &amp;quot;regions&amp;quot; itself seems completely antiquated in the grand scheme of things. AWS has made a few moves on this but in the end you&amp;#x27;re largely still tied to this fundamental regional concept in terms of control planes, etc and you incur the ridiculousness that is VPCs, wild billing and availability issues, all kinds of hacks, stacks, and effort all over the place to have multiple regions&amp;#x2F;AZs, etc.&lt;p&gt;I suspect that later starters like Fly, Cloudflare, etc with their approaches of (more or less) compute at edge with no concept of region etc will grow more and more to dominate the cloud space with AWS region-based approaches primarily relegated to &amp;quot;legacy applications&amp;quot; that are stuck there. It may take a generation or so to get there but more and more the next crop of startups, etc are building on things like Fly instead of AWS and friends.&lt;p&gt;When I think about it the region based approaches are more akin to &amp;quot;hosted elastic datacenter&amp;quot; than they are what could be described as a &amp;quot;true cloud&amp;quot; - where it&amp;#x27;s just everywhere and not even a consideration.</text></item><item><author>geraldwhen</author><text>“ The result of this is an Internet where all of the world&amp;#x27;s CRUD apps are hosted in Loudoun County, VA (motto: &amp;quot;where tradition meets innovation&amp;quot;), at Amazon&amp;#x27;s us-east-1 in Ashburn, a city with so many Rails apps that one of them was elected to the county Board of Supervisors.”&lt;p&gt;So true it hurts</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>We raised a bunch of money</title><url>https://fly.io/blog/we-raised-a-bunch-of-money/</url></story>