<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>ZoFreX</author><text>&amp;gt; Worse yet, they first lured people in by releasing an awesome app (gtalk) killing most of the competition and then changed it to &amp;quot;Google way of doing web&amp;quot; without asking anybody and with competition already (almost) dead.&lt;p&gt;I believe you could call this &amp;quot;Embrace, extend, extinguish&amp;quot;?</text><parent_chain><item><author>bluecalm</author><text>Also synchronization sucks. I often use it from my desktop only to get &amp;quot;new message&amp;quot; notification on my phone somewhere around 10 minutes in the conversation with some messages from the beginning. It also loses message regularly so I am now used to ask for copy pasting if it&amp;#x27;s obvious something got lost.
Blatant disregard of things like sorting via status (or displaying that at all) or introducing more of them is another thing.
It looks like some crazy manager designed his evil plan and convinced all his bosses that it&amp;#x27;s the way to go. The app sucks, everyone I know hates it, they forced feeded it to users with Android update with no way to go back to gtalk.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s amazing how they completely ignore what people want in the name of some lucid vision of how web talk should be done.
Worse yet, they first lured people in by releasing an awesome app (gtalk) killing most of the competition and then changed it to &amp;quot;Google way of doing web&amp;quot; without asking anybody and with competition already (almost) dead.
&amp;#x2F;rant</text></item><item><author>sssparkkk</author><text>Besides the fact that this is a pretty serious bug, I&amp;#x27;m rather underwhelmed by the care Google has been taking of their hangouts product after releasing it last May.&lt;p&gt;And I&amp;#x27;m not even talking about things like online-status &amp;#x27;missing&amp;#x27; (it&amp;#x27;s a design decision on their end), but more the general experience of using hangouts.&lt;p&gt;As far as I can tell you&amp;#x27;re still not able to mute the new message sound, without turning off notifications all together (hangouts in Gmail). Chatter picking up in a hangout and you want to mute it for a while? Again, not possible. Turn off all notifications for that hangout and chances are you&amp;#x27;ll completely forget you were ever part of that conversation (snoozing notifications hangouts-wide makes sure you miss all other personal messages sent to you as well).&lt;p&gt;Uploading a photo on a slow network is a pretty terrible experience: it&amp;#x27;ll start telling you the upload has failed and it&amp;#x27;s retrying (no progress to be seen anywhere). If you delete the message and try again, you&amp;#x27;ll probably end up with two of the same messages in your conversation, because often it doesn&amp;#x27;t appear to correctly &amp;#x27;receive&amp;#x27; your deletion request either.&lt;p&gt;When you&amp;#x27;ve received a photo that you need to save to your gallery (maybe you want to zoom-in a little, or share it with someone else?), be prepared to hit that save button for a while until you finally get a confirmation that the photo has actually been saved.&lt;p&gt;Stuff like this is not a problem when it&amp;#x27;s your first release, but 4 months on you&amp;#x27;d expect a company like Google to be able to iron out quirks like these. But no, we get extra emoji as one of the few updates to the hangouts platform.&lt;p&gt;[edit: spelling]</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Google Hangouts/GTalk glitch sends chats to wrong recipients</title><url>http://www.zdnet.com/google-hangoutsgtalk-glitch-sends-chats-to-wrong-recipients-7000021195/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>rryan</author><text>Killing the competition? There is lots of healthy competition in the messaging&amp;#x2F;chat space:&lt;p&gt;Facebook Chat, WhatsApp, iMessage, SnapChat, Instagram, Skype, etc.&lt;p&gt;If anything gChat is a struggling platform that didn&amp;#x27;t make the transition to the mobile era -- that&amp;#x27;s the &lt;i&gt;entire reason Hangouts exists&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;p&gt;Edited: to use more polite tone.</text><parent_chain><item><author>bluecalm</author><text>Also synchronization sucks. I often use it from my desktop only to get &amp;quot;new message&amp;quot; notification on my phone somewhere around 10 minutes in the conversation with some messages from the beginning. It also loses message regularly so I am now used to ask for copy pasting if it&amp;#x27;s obvious something got lost.
Blatant disregard of things like sorting via status (or displaying that at all) or introducing more of them is another thing.
It looks like some crazy manager designed his evil plan and convinced all his bosses that it&amp;#x27;s the way to go. The app sucks, everyone I know hates it, they forced feeded it to users with Android update with no way to go back to gtalk.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s amazing how they completely ignore what people want in the name of some lucid vision of how web talk should be done.
Worse yet, they first lured people in by releasing an awesome app (gtalk) killing most of the competition and then changed it to &amp;quot;Google way of doing web&amp;quot; without asking anybody and with competition already (almost) dead.
&amp;#x2F;rant</text></item><item><author>sssparkkk</author><text>Besides the fact that this is a pretty serious bug, I&amp;#x27;m rather underwhelmed by the care Google has been taking of their hangouts product after releasing it last May.&lt;p&gt;And I&amp;#x27;m not even talking about things like online-status &amp;#x27;missing&amp;#x27; (it&amp;#x27;s a design decision on their end), but more the general experience of using hangouts.&lt;p&gt;As far as I can tell you&amp;#x27;re still not able to mute the new message sound, without turning off notifications all together (hangouts in Gmail). Chatter picking up in a hangout and you want to mute it for a while? Again, not possible. Turn off all notifications for that hangout and chances are you&amp;#x27;ll completely forget you were ever part of that conversation (snoozing notifications hangouts-wide makes sure you miss all other personal messages sent to you as well).&lt;p&gt;Uploading a photo on a slow network is a pretty terrible experience: it&amp;#x27;ll start telling you the upload has failed and it&amp;#x27;s retrying (no progress to be seen anywhere). If you delete the message and try again, you&amp;#x27;ll probably end up with two of the same messages in your conversation, because often it doesn&amp;#x27;t appear to correctly &amp;#x27;receive&amp;#x27; your deletion request either.&lt;p&gt;When you&amp;#x27;ve received a photo that you need to save to your gallery (maybe you want to zoom-in a little, or share it with someone else?), be prepared to hit that save button for a while until you finally get a confirmation that the photo has actually been saved.&lt;p&gt;Stuff like this is not a problem when it&amp;#x27;s your first release, but 4 months on you&amp;#x27;d expect a company like Google to be able to iron out quirks like these. But no, we get extra emoji as one of the few updates to the hangouts platform.&lt;p&gt;[edit: spelling]</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Google Hangouts/GTalk glitch sends chats to wrong recipients</title><url>http://www.zdnet.com/google-hangoutsgtalk-glitch-sends-chats-to-wrong-recipients-7000021195/</url></story>