<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>Brian_K_White</author><text>I do not recommend this. Use Kicad.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s not an on-ramp, it&amp;#x27;s a time-wasting distraction detour from your actual on-ramp.&lt;p&gt;Every minute you spend figuring out how to do something in fritzing is a minute you could have spent figuring out the same thing in kicad, which you will end up doing eventually &lt;i&gt;anyway&lt;/i&gt;, I promise you, garanteed. All this gets you is some badly designed boards and wasted time.&lt;p&gt;There are gobs of youtube videos for the absolute beginner which takes care of taking you from zero to simple pcb in a few minutes. Then you figure out a lot of other details as you encounter needs for them over time.&lt;p&gt;It doesn&amp;#x27;t have to be kicad either. If you don&amp;#x27;t mind a commercial proprietary product, Eagle is fine too. It&amp;#x27;s workflow is a little different but not bad. In fact it&amp;#x27;s an industry standard at a low level.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Fritzing is an open-source electronic design tool</title><url>https://fritzing.org/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>helsinkiandrew</author><text>There was an interesting discussion on their &amp;quot;download&amp;quot; button a few years ago.
&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=21530891&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=21530891&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Original article has disappeared but is on archive.org: 
&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;web.archive.org&amp;#x2F;web&amp;#x2F;20210615211240&amp;#x2F;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;bowero.nl&amp;#x2F;blog&amp;#x2F;2019&amp;#x2F;11&amp;#x2F;13&amp;#x2F;how-fritzing-is-killing-itself&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;web.archive.org&amp;#x2F;web&amp;#x2F;20210615211240&amp;#x2F;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;bowero.nl...&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Fritzing is an open-source electronic design tool</title><url>https://fritzing.org/</url></story>