<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>Spooky23</author><text>In a closed shop, you’re not obliged the join the union, but you’re subject to (and benefit from) the bargaining terms and may need to pay “agency shop fees” to pay for the overheads associated with that negotiation.&lt;p&gt;There are differences in how this works between public and private employers — the changes your mom is concerned about are specific to public employers.&lt;p&gt;For folks like your mom, teachers, and other public employees, that case may fundamentally change the nature of the profession. The folks finding and pushing the case have a pretty transparent agenda to break public unions.&lt;p&gt;It is a nuanced issue that tends to draw lots of fire. There are certainly lots of problems with public sector costs (mostly driven by stratospheric healthcare cost increases) that unions have been able to protect members from. If you work as a rank and file, non-political public employee, not unionizing is an incredibly stupid thing to do, but people will do anyway to make their extra 2% a week.</text><parent_chain><item><author>dopamean</author><text>Good for them. I hope that this works out well for both parties (labor and management).&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m curious about the details. I believe that in New York if a union negotiates your contract you are legally obliged to be a member of that union and incur whatever costs are associated (dues). My mother is a labor relations specialist for NYSUT (New York State United Teachers) and she is very concerned about a coming SCOTUS ruling that would remove that legal obligation. How does The New Yorker&amp;#x27;s new union plan to deal with that if&amp;#x2F;when it comes?</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>The New Yorker has formed a union</title><url>https://www.newyorkerunion.com/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>jaas</author><text>I am not a lawyer or particularly well informed on the subject, but I believe the SCOTUS case you&amp;#x27;re referencing only applies to public sector unions (i.e. government employees).</text><parent_chain><item><author>dopamean</author><text>Good for them. I hope that this works out well for both parties (labor and management).&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m curious about the details. I believe that in New York if a union negotiates your contract you are legally obliged to be a member of that union and incur whatever costs are associated (dues). My mother is a labor relations specialist for NYSUT (New York State United Teachers) and she is very concerned about a coming SCOTUS ruling that would remove that legal obligation. How does The New Yorker&amp;#x27;s new union plan to deal with that if&amp;#x2F;when it comes?</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>The New Yorker has formed a union</title><url>https://www.newyorkerunion.com/</url></story>