<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>itsspring</author><text>Ya, I found the answer on Apple&amp;#x27;s site:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;support.apple.com&amp;#x2F;en-us&amp;#x2F;HT208368&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;support.apple.com&amp;#x2F;en-us&amp;#x2F;HT208368&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Compared with Apple USB-C Charge Cable
The Apple USB-C Charge Cable is longer (2m) and also supports charging, but data-transfer speed is limited to 480Mbps (USB 2.0) and it doesn&amp;#x27;t support video. The Apple Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) cable has Thunderbolt  logo on the sleeve of each connector. Either cable can be used with the Apple USB-C Power Adapter.</text><parent_chain><item><author>sackofmugs</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s strange, I&amp;#x27;ve never encountered a usb-c cable that did not support data at all. My understanding (and the article suggests) that charging and data are fine in general, but just not as fast as the device can support. Basically they will charge or transfer data at regular usb or micro-usb speeds.</text></item><item><author>itsspring</author><text>Heh, just this week I was struggling to get a device to work with my laptop, until after 90+ minutes I realized there were different types of USB-C, and the one I had (the Apple charger cable) only did charging.&lt;p&gt;I needed one that transmitted video, so I then went to order a $10 USB-C, only to realize those also only did charging. Finally found what I needed, but I thought USB-C was finally &amp;quot;universal&amp;quot;, but turns out much of that is just marketing...&lt;p&gt;Edit: Turns out the one I just bought ($40 USB-C Apple thunderbolt cable) doesn&amp;#x27;t even fit into the device because the edges are too thick. Ridiculous</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>USB-C is still a mess</title><url>https://www.androidauthority.com/state-of-usb-c-870996/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>trav4225</author><text>I definitely have encountered this. One was even a device intended for development via USB. For some strange reason, the USB-C cable shipped with the product only supported power, requiring the customer to buy another cable for data transfer.</text><parent_chain><item><author>sackofmugs</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s strange, I&amp;#x27;ve never encountered a usb-c cable that did not support data at all. My understanding (and the article suggests) that charging and data are fine in general, but just not as fast as the device can support. Basically they will charge or transfer data at regular usb or micro-usb speeds.</text></item><item><author>itsspring</author><text>Heh, just this week I was struggling to get a device to work with my laptop, until after 90+ minutes I realized there were different types of USB-C, and the one I had (the Apple charger cable) only did charging.&lt;p&gt;I needed one that transmitted video, so I then went to order a $10 USB-C, only to realize those also only did charging. Finally found what I needed, but I thought USB-C was finally &amp;quot;universal&amp;quot;, but turns out much of that is just marketing...&lt;p&gt;Edit: Turns out the one I just bought ($40 USB-C Apple thunderbolt cable) doesn&amp;#x27;t even fit into the device because the edges are too thick. Ridiculous</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>USB-C is still a mess</title><url>https://www.androidauthority.com/state-of-usb-c-870996/</url></story>