<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>andrey_utkin</author><text>We need to follow Richard Stallman in his obsession with ehtics. &amp;quot;Sorry mate, I find FB&amp;#x2F;Google&amp;#x2F;Skype&amp;#x2F;etc. unethical, so I won&amp;#x27;t get in touch with you using this, let&amp;#x27;s better stick with email, phone call or meeting in person&amp;quot;.</text><parent_chain><item><author>leonroy</author><text>Fully agree with your comments, but I fear we&amp;#x27;re going in the wrong direction with the silo-ization of the web and the decline in open standards being ratified and used by large companies.&lt;p&gt;Just look at Google&amp;#x27;s hostility towards maintaining standardized IMAP&amp;#x2F;SMTP support for third party mail clients. Google Apps and Office 365 would drop IMAP access to their services in a heartbeat if they could.&lt;p&gt;Furthermore a lot of our online interactions are moving from open formats like Usenet, IRC, XMPP and SMTP&amp;#x2F;IMAP to closed off walled gardens like Twitter, Instagram and Facebook.&lt;p&gt;This artist&amp;#x27;s online presence could have been entirely based on Instagram and Twitter for example and I bet many (younger than I) folks nowadays do eschew email for other forms of communication.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t think self sufficiency in communication is a problem the end user can be realistically expected to solve. It&amp;#x27;s up to engineers and technology stake holders to try and push us back to a more open way of using these apps and provide standards based communication.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t know how the heck we&amp;#x27;ll do that - I don&amp;#x27;t see any user pressure for companies to even try, but news like this troubles me and I think it&amp;#x27;s going to get much worse before people realize their data isn&amp;#x27;t their own and push for it to get better.</text></item><item><author>a3n</author><text>The hindsight-prescriptive comments here focus on backing up, and that&amp;#x27;s a sensible practice.&lt;p&gt;But there was another kind of damage done here, to the man&amp;#x27;s identity, location and voice. His blog and his email address were his public persona. He used his blog and his address as identity, and as his channel of communication with followers, other artists, and I assume most of his general online communication.&lt;p&gt;That persona no longer exists. He&amp;#x27;s been all but disappeared, and it&amp;#x27;s going to take a long time for him to reconnect.&lt;p&gt;The technical lesson that should be learned here, beyond backups, is to have your own domain. You can still use services with your own domain. I&amp;#x27;ve used many ISPs and email services, and I&amp;#x27;ve had the same domain since about 2000. I used to use gmail (with me@mydomain.com). I use fastmail now. I&amp;#x27;ve never since 2000 had to tell anyone to change my email address, because it&amp;#x27;s never changed, even though providers changed. The subject of this article would have a much easier time of reconnecting, had he used his own domain.&lt;p&gt;(Added to that, in the &amp;quot;backup&amp;quot; theme, download all your email as it happens. I use thunderbird, and it does that for me. I once resolved a dispute with a former employer because I had email that they had no incentive to find.)&lt;p&gt;Using your own domain is not absolute protection, because you don&amp;#x27;t really own your domain, you rent it. Your registrar can decide to sell your domain to someone else, and if your consumer rights were violated it&amp;#x27;s going to be difficult to reclaim your domain. In the future I think we&amp;#x27;re going to need meta-domains that can&amp;#x27;t be transferred, that &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; our identity, but I don&amp;#x27;t know how that would be implemented.&lt;p&gt;I said this person has been disappeared, which was a provocative use of the word (this isn&amp;#x27;t Argentina or Chile in the seventies). But thinking more broadly, consider that as our lives are lived more and more online, any government could compel a provider to remove you. Even if it was unjust removal, it could be so expensive to restore your presence that you just can&amp;#x27;t do it. Harder to fight a government than it is to fight Google, if the government decides it won&amp;#x27;t be moved. We have a no-fly list now that has no associated due process. I can imagine a no-communicate list.&lt;p&gt;Which is all to say, try to be as self-sufficient as is practical, and as is warranted by the importance of your communication.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work</title><url>http://fusion.net/story/325231/google-deletes-dennis-cooper-blog/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>a3n</author><text>I have wished from the beginning that Twitter was a protocol, and not a business. (I wonder if Twitter investors wish that? :)&lt;p&gt;Fastmail et al. show that you can run a business on a protocol, even if it won&amp;#x27;t necessarily make you a unicorn.</text><parent_chain><item><author>leonroy</author><text>Fully agree with your comments, but I fear we&amp;#x27;re going in the wrong direction with the silo-ization of the web and the decline in open standards being ratified and used by large companies.&lt;p&gt;Just look at Google&amp;#x27;s hostility towards maintaining standardized IMAP&amp;#x2F;SMTP support for third party mail clients. Google Apps and Office 365 would drop IMAP access to their services in a heartbeat if they could.&lt;p&gt;Furthermore a lot of our online interactions are moving from open formats like Usenet, IRC, XMPP and SMTP&amp;#x2F;IMAP to closed off walled gardens like Twitter, Instagram and Facebook.&lt;p&gt;This artist&amp;#x27;s online presence could have been entirely based on Instagram and Twitter for example and I bet many (younger than I) folks nowadays do eschew email for other forms of communication.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t think self sufficiency in communication is a problem the end user can be realistically expected to solve. It&amp;#x27;s up to engineers and technology stake holders to try and push us back to a more open way of using these apps and provide standards based communication.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t know how the heck we&amp;#x27;ll do that - I don&amp;#x27;t see any user pressure for companies to even try, but news like this troubles me and I think it&amp;#x27;s going to get much worse before people realize their data isn&amp;#x27;t their own and push for it to get better.</text></item><item><author>a3n</author><text>The hindsight-prescriptive comments here focus on backing up, and that&amp;#x27;s a sensible practice.&lt;p&gt;But there was another kind of damage done here, to the man&amp;#x27;s identity, location and voice. His blog and his email address were his public persona. He used his blog and his address as identity, and as his channel of communication with followers, other artists, and I assume most of his general online communication.&lt;p&gt;That persona no longer exists. He&amp;#x27;s been all but disappeared, and it&amp;#x27;s going to take a long time for him to reconnect.&lt;p&gt;The technical lesson that should be learned here, beyond backups, is to have your own domain. You can still use services with your own domain. I&amp;#x27;ve used many ISPs and email services, and I&amp;#x27;ve had the same domain since about 2000. I used to use gmail (with me@mydomain.com). I use fastmail now. I&amp;#x27;ve never since 2000 had to tell anyone to change my email address, because it&amp;#x27;s never changed, even though providers changed. The subject of this article would have a much easier time of reconnecting, had he used his own domain.&lt;p&gt;(Added to that, in the &amp;quot;backup&amp;quot; theme, download all your email as it happens. I use thunderbird, and it does that for me. I once resolved a dispute with a former employer because I had email that they had no incentive to find.)&lt;p&gt;Using your own domain is not absolute protection, because you don&amp;#x27;t really own your domain, you rent it. Your registrar can decide to sell your domain to someone else, and if your consumer rights were violated it&amp;#x27;s going to be difficult to reclaim your domain. In the future I think we&amp;#x27;re going to need meta-domains that can&amp;#x27;t be transferred, that &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; our identity, but I don&amp;#x27;t know how that would be implemented.&lt;p&gt;I said this person has been disappeared, which was a provocative use of the word (this isn&amp;#x27;t Argentina or Chile in the seventies). But thinking more broadly, consider that as our lives are lived more and more online, any government could compel a provider to remove you. Even if it was unjust removal, it could be so expensive to restore your presence that you just can&amp;#x27;t do it. Harder to fight a government than it is to fight Google, if the government decides it won&amp;#x27;t be moved. We have a no-fly list now that has no associated due process. I can imagine a no-communicate list.&lt;p&gt;Which is all to say, try to be as self-sufficient as is practical, and as is warranted by the importance of your communication.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work</title><url>http://fusion.net/story/325231/google-deletes-dennis-cooper-blog/</url></story>