<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>ivanzhao</author><text>Notion&amp;#x27;s founder here. Thank you for the kind words - we are honored :-)&lt;p&gt;To be honest, nothing we are doing is that new. Most of the ideas came from the 70s-80s (Alan Kay, Doug Engelbart, Ted Nelson...) We are just applying a fresh coat of paint.&lt;p&gt;Of course, there&amp;#x27;s still a lot more to be done to fully realize these pioneers&amp;#x27; dreams of computing as a medium for everyone – not just programmers like us. If you are interested to learn more or work with us, feel free to message me directly at ivan at makenotion.com, or link below. We are happy to host you for lunch:
&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.notion.so&amp;#x2F;notion&amp;#x2F;Join-Us-e7aeb157238a4603a2964b28c646f07f&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.notion.so&amp;#x2F;notion&amp;#x2F;Join-Us-e7aeb157238a4603a2964b2...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Have a good one!
Ivan</text><parent_chain><item><author>louis-paul</author><text>There is something about Notion that makes it feel very well-made and coherent. It’s one of the few apps I use with this inherent feeling of quality (off the top of my head Sublime Text&amp;#x2F;Merge, Beyond Compare, Things fall into this category of intangible greatness). Every interaction is delightful, and the app scales really well from basic note-taking to decently complex databases with grouping, filters, relations, templates and permissions. It comes with really good real-time collaboration.&lt;p&gt;On the flip side the software a bit slow to start and uses a lot of resources—it’s based on Electron, but I encourage everyone to try it (the demo on their website is cool!).&lt;p&gt;This is as close to “painting the back of the fence” as it gets.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases</title><url>https://www.notion.so</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>abalone</author><text>Say what you will about Electron apps that use excessive resources and lack native touches, but they are definitely not “as close to painting the back of the fence as it gets.”&lt;p&gt;That Jobs-ism was specifically about caring about the internals of a product that nobody looks at, but you know are there.</text><parent_chain><item><author>louis-paul</author><text>There is something about Notion that makes it feel very well-made and coherent. It’s one of the few apps I use with this inherent feeling of quality (off the top of my head Sublime Text&amp;#x2F;Merge, Beyond Compare, Things fall into this category of intangible greatness). Every interaction is delightful, and the app scales really well from basic note-taking to decently complex databases with grouping, filters, relations, templates and permissions. It comes with really good real-time collaboration.&lt;p&gt;On the flip side the software a bit slow to start and uses a lot of resources—it’s based on Electron, but I encourage everyone to try it (the demo on their website is cool!).&lt;p&gt;This is as close to “painting the back of the fence” as it gets.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases</title><url>https://www.notion.so</url></story>