<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>fc373745</author><text>&amp;gt;So what happened? Were listening devices found at the Nortel Campus or not?&lt;p&gt;The Department of National Defence keeps changing its story on that issue.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;But after the Citizen article was published, Julie Di Mambro, spokeswoman for then Conservative Defence Minister Rob Nicholson, noted in a statement that, “security officials have assured us that they have not discovered any bugs or listening devices.”&lt;p&gt;The first article seems to heavily imply that there is no definite conclusion to this matter.</text><parent_chain><item><author>walrus01</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s well known in the telecom&amp;#x2F;internet infrastructure business that Huawei:&lt;p&gt;a) bugged the hell out of Nortel&amp;#x27;s ottawa area offices, both physically, by rootkit, and by getting their own people hired to physically smuggle out documents and design data&lt;p&gt;b) Copied the entire DWDM &amp;#x2F; optical transport product line&lt;p&gt;c) Released a nearly identical product a few years later, and sold it at a ridiculously low price, effectively killing Nortel.&lt;p&gt;Many years later the vacant ex-Nortel office buildings came up for lease. One of the candidate tenants for that large of an office space were parts of the Canadian federal government, ministry of defence, etc. Every serious tenant passed on the space because it&amp;#x27;s so riddled with bugs.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ottawacitizen.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;national&amp;#x2F;defence-watch&amp;#x2F;the-mystery-of-the-listening-devices-at-dnds-nortel-campus&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ottawacitizen.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;national&amp;#x2F;defence-watch&amp;#x2F;the-my...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ctvnews.ca&amp;#x2F;canada&amp;#x2F;dnd-may-abandon-1b-move-to-former-nortel-site-because-of-surveillance-bugs-1.1477766&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ctvnews.ca&amp;#x2F;canada&amp;#x2F;dnd-may-abandon-1b-move-to-for...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theglobeandmail.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;politics&amp;#x2F;department-of-national-defences-new-1-billion-facility-falls-short-on-security&amp;#x2F;article31685234&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theglobeandmail.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;politics&amp;#x2F;department-of-...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Huawei Accused of Technology Theft</title><url>https://www.npr.org/2019/06/08/730898429/huawei-accused-of-technology-theft</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>codedokode</author><text>&amp;gt; Released a nearly identical product a few years later, and sold it at a ridiculously low price,&lt;p&gt;If it violates the patents, then why did the company not sue Huawei and get a compensation? If it doesn&amp;#x27;t violate the patents then what&amp;#x27;s the problem?</text><parent_chain><item><author>walrus01</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s well known in the telecom&amp;#x2F;internet infrastructure business that Huawei:&lt;p&gt;a) bugged the hell out of Nortel&amp;#x27;s ottawa area offices, both physically, by rootkit, and by getting their own people hired to physically smuggle out documents and design data&lt;p&gt;b) Copied the entire DWDM &amp;#x2F; optical transport product line&lt;p&gt;c) Released a nearly identical product a few years later, and sold it at a ridiculously low price, effectively killing Nortel.&lt;p&gt;Many years later the vacant ex-Nortel office buildings came up for lease. One of the candidate tenants for that large of an office space were parts of the Canadian federal government, ministry of defence, etc. Every serious tenant passed on the space because it&amp;#x27;s so riddled with bugs.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ottawacitizen.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;national&amp;#x2F;defence-watch&amp;#x2F;the-mystery-of-the-listening-devices-at-dnds-nortel-campus&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ottawacitizen.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;national&amp;#x2F;defence-watch&amp;#x2F;the-my...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ctvnews.ca&amp;#x2F;canada&amp;#x2F;dnd-may-abandon-1b-move-to-former-nortel-site-because-of-surveillance-bugs-1.1477766&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ctvnews.ca&amp;#x2F;canada&amp;#x2F;dnd-may-abandon-1b-move-to-for...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theglobeandmail.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;politics&amp;#x2F;department-of-national-defences-new-1-billion-facility-falls-short-on-security&amp;#x2F;article31685234&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theglobeandmail.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;politics&amp;#x2F;department-of-...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Huawei Accused of Technology Theft</title><url>https://www.npr.org/2019/06/08/730898429/huawei-accused-of-technology-theft</url></story>