<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>kingkawn</author><text>The same way that all social norms get changed applies here; publicly challenge them and then withstand the viciousness of the backlash without losing your conviction. Then other people will get the courage to agree and it will spread. Not being cowed by the initial furious attacks on you but also not getting dragged into a vengeful battle are the means of social transformation.</text><parent_chain><item><author>komali2</author><text>&amp;gt;In addition to cultural attitudes about the value of hard work, she said, some employers reduce costs by relying on overtime, and employees work the longer hours for the extra pay and to please the boss — promotions often depend more on time spent at a desk than actual productivity.&lt;p&gt;Agggh hits to home. Arrogant American me rolled into a Taiwanese job expecting to skyrocket up the ladder on results alone. Nope, because I left at 5 sharp to enjoy the beautiful mountains, I was a lazy shit. Never mind my 10x increase in sales. Well, also I was an arrogant prick.&lt;p&gt;I chew on this issue a lot - it&amp;#x27;s bad to work so much. But, it&amp;#x27;s culturally ingrained. Some people are trying to change it... but it&amp;#x27;s happening so slowly. We have our own culturally ingrained things in America that I&amp;#x27;d like to change as well, and that are changing, but so slowly. How do you implement change?&lt;p&gt;I guess that&amp;#x27;s the plot of any good fantasy or political drama, how do leaders convince people that change can be good?</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>In Japan, It’s a Riveting TV Plot: Can a Worker Go Home on Time?</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/18/business/japan-work-overtime-tv-show.html</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>m463</author><text>&amp;gt; how do leaders convince people that change can be good?&lt;p&gt;Showing the idea to a broad audience on tv is actually one way to do this.&lt;p&gt;(although there are ways this can backfire)</text><parent_chain><item><author>komali2</author><text>&amp;gt;In addition to cultural attitudes about the value of hard work, she said, some employers reduce costs by relying on overtime, and employees work the longer hours for the extra pay and to please the boss — promotions often depend more on time spent at a desk than actual productivity.&lt;p&gt;Agggh hits to home. Arrogant American me rolled into a Taiwanese job expecting to skyrocket up the ladder on results alone. Nope, because I left at 5 sharp to enjoy the beautiful mountains, I was a lazy shit. Never mind my 10x increase in sales. Well, also I was an arrogant prick.&lt;p&gt;I chew on this issue a lot - it&amp;#x27;s bad to work so much. But, it&amp;#x27;s culturally ingrained. Some people are trying to change it... but it&amp;#x27;s happening so slowly. We have our own culturally ingrained things in America that I&amp;#x27;d like to change as well, and that are changing, but so slowly. How do you implement change?&lt;p&gt;I guess that&amp;#x27;s the plot of any good fantasy or political drama, how do leaders convince people that change can be good?</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>In Japan, It’s a Riveting TV Plot: Can a Worker Go Home on Time?</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/18/business/japan-work-overtime-tv-show.html</url></story>