<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>asituop</author><text>Not that Huawei is the only and surely some other brands are even worse, but still Huawei phones are full of spyware, just open NetGuard or another example here : &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;mobile.twitter.com&amp;#x2F;fs0c131y&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1051568180748013569&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;mobile.twitter.com&amp;#x2F;fs0c131y&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;10515681807480135...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;But once again surely other brands, Western companies included, are also spying, but it doesn&amp;#x27;t change the fact that Huawei does it too.</text><parent_chain><item><author>freeflight</author><text>Nothing, just like nothing will happen to the outlets who are currently pushing this &amp;quot;Huwai is spying on everybody&amp;quot; narrative with not an ounce of evidence for it except for unfounded and unsourced claims by FiveEyes intelligence services [0].&lt;p&gt;Afaik that whole Bloomberg&amp;#x2F;Super Micro thing was similarly set up, referring to &amp;quot;anonymous intelligence&amp;#x2F;industry services&amp;quot;, not even naming the company that supposedly did the security audit.&lt;p&gt;People have to realize that these kinds of narratives are often pushed by parties in the West, with a vested interest, just as much as it happens in the supposedly &amp;quot;propaganda riddled&amp;quot; East.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s for those same reasons that the amendments to the Smith-Mundson act, which happened back in 2013, haven&amp;#x27;t seen any widespread attention or even mention anywhere in the mainstream [1] because the good guys don&amp;#x27;t do &amp;quot;propaganda&amp;quot;, they do &amp;quot;interventions&amp;quot; [2] and &amp;quot;information campaigns&amp;quot; [3].&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ft.com&amp;#x2F;content&amp;#x2F;afa7fd54-79b1-11e8-bc55-50daf11b720d&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ft.com&amp;#x2F;content&amp;#x2F;afa7fd54-79b1-11e8-bc55-50daf11b7...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;foreignpolicy.com&amp;#x2F;2013&amp;#x2F;07&amp;#x2F;14&amp;#x2F;u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;foreignpolicy.com&amp;#x2F;2013&amp;#x2F;07&amp;#x2F;14&amp;#x2F;u-s-repeals-propaganda-...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theguardian.com&amp;#x2F;technology&amp;#x2F;2011&amp;#x2F;mar&amp;#x2F;17&amp;#x2F;us-spy-operation-social-networks&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theguardian.com&amp;#x2F;technology&amp;#x2F;2011&amp;#x2F;mar&amp;#x2F;17&amp;#x2F;us-spy-op...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[3] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;vimeo.com&amp;#x2F;67739294&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;vimeo.com&amp;#x2F;67739294&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>neya</author><text>Let&amp;#x27;s say Super Micro is right and there were no malicious hardware at all for sure. What are the consequences for Bloomberg for this incompetence? I mean, there needs to be something..&lt;p&gt;Just because you&amp;#x27;re a news organization, you can&amp;#x27;t simply escape with &amp;quot;Oh, my bad&amp;quot;. This had real implications on stock prices of so many companies and wiped off shareholder value on many of them, including Super Micro.&lt;p&gt;If Bloomberg&amp;#x27;s story was false, they shouldn&amp;#x27;t just walk away like that because &amp;quot;it&amp;#x27;s the free press&amp;quot;.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Super Micro says review found no malicious chips in motherboards</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-supermicro-chips/super-micro-says-review-found-no-malicious-chips-in-motherboards-idUSKBN1OA12R</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>narrator</author><text>Seems like anonymous sources inside the intelligence agencies is how a lot of the news gets generated these days.  Anonymous figures don&amp;#x27;t have to worry about their reputation or credibility and can just leak occasionally true information to keep getting published.</text><parent_chain><item><author>freeflight</author><text>Nothing, just like nothing will happen to the outlets who are currently pushing this &amp;quot;Huwai is spying on everybody&amp;quot; narrative with not an ounce of evidence for it except for unfounded and unsourced claims by FiveEyes intelligence services [0].&lt;p&gt;Afaik that whole Bloomberg&amp;#x2F;Super Micro thing was similarly set up, referring to &amp;quot;anonymous intelligence&amp;#x2F;industry services&amp;quot;, not even naming the company that supposedly did the security audit.&lt;p&gt;People have to realize that these kinds of narratives are often pushed by parties in the West, with a vested interest, just as much as it happens in the supposedly &amp;quot;propaganda riddled&amp;quot; East.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s for those same reasons that the amendments to the Smith-Mundson act, which happened back in 2013, haven&amp;#x27;t seen any widespread attention or even mention anywhere in the mainstream [1] because the good guys don&amp;#x27;t do &amp;quot;propaganda&amp;quot;, they do &amp;quot;interventions&amp;quot; [2] and &amp;quot;information campaigns&amp;quot; [3].&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ft.com&amp;#x2F;content&amp;#x2F;afa7fd54-79b1-11e8-bc55-50daf11b720d&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ft.com&amp;#x2F;content&amp;#x2F;afa7fd54-79b1-11e8-bc55-50daf11b7...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;foreignpolicy.com&amp;#x2F;2013&amp;#x2F;07&amp;#x2F;14&amp;#x2F;u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;foreignpolicy.com&amp;#x2F;2013&amp;#x2F;07&amp;#x2F;14&amp;#x2F;u-s-repeals-propaganda-...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theguardian.com&amp;#x2F;technology&amp;#x2F;2011&amp;#x2F;mar&amp;#x2F;17&amp;#x2F;us-spy-operation-social-networks&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theguardian.com&amp;#x2F;technology&amp;#x2F;2011&amp;#x2F;mar&amp;#x2F;17&amp;#x2F;us-spy-op...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[3] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;vimeo.com&amp;#x2F;67739294&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;vimeo.com&amp;#x2F;67739294&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>neya</author><text>Let&amp;#x27;s say Super Micro is right and there were no malicious hardware at all for sure. What are the consequences for Bloomberg for this incompetence? I mean, there needs to be something..&lt;p&gt;Just because you&amp;#x27;re a news organization, you can&amp;#x27;t simply escape with &amp;quot;Oh, my bad&amp;quot;. This had real implications on stock prices of so many companies and wiped off shareholder value on many of them, including Super Micro.&lt;p&gt;If Bloomberg&amp;#x27;s story was false, they shouldn&amp;#x27;t just walk away like that because &amp;quot;it&amp;#x27;s the free press&amp;quot;.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Super Micro says review found no malicious chips in motherboards</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-supermicro-chips/super-micro-says-review-found-no-malicious-chips-in-motherboards-idUSKBN1OA12R</url></story>