<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>chaxor</author><text>Google has far better models than llama based models. They just simply don&amp;#x27;t put them facing the public.&lt;p&gt;It is pretty ridiculous that they essentially just set a marketing team with no programming experience to write Bard, but that shouldn&amp;#x27;t fool anyone into believing they don&amp;#x27;t have capable models in Google.&lt;p&gt;If Deepmind were to actually provide what they have in some usable form, it would likely be quite good.  Despite being the first to publish on RLHF (just right before OpenAI) and bring the idea to the academic sphere, they mostly work in areas tangential to &amp;#x27;just chatbots&amp;#x27; (e.g. how to improve science with novel GNNs, etc).  However, they&amp;#x27;re mostly academics, so they aren&amp;#x27;t set on making products, doing the janitorial work of fancy UIs and web marketing, and making things easy to use, like much of the rest of the field.</text><parent_chain><item><author>whimsicalism</author><text>Google&amp;#x27;s model is not as capable as llama-derived models, so I think they would actually benefit from this.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; I wouldn&amp;#x27;t be surprised if Amazon does as well.&lt;p&gt;I would - they are not a very major player in this space.&lt;p&gt;TikTok also meets this definition and probably doesn&amp;#x27;t have LLM.</text></item><item><author>stu2b50</author><text>I think more Apple. It&amp;#x27;s not like Google or Microsoft would &lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt; to use LLaMA when they have fully capable models themselves. I wouldn&amp;#x27;t be surprised if Amazon does as well.&lt;p&gt;Apple is the big laggard in terms of big tech and complex neural network models.</text></item><item><author>minimaxir</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s an oddly high number for blocking competition. OpenAI&amp;#x27;s ChatGPT hit 100 million MAUs in January, and has gone down since.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s essentially a &amp;quot;Amazon and Google don&amp;#x27;t use this k thx.&amp;quot;</text></item><item><author>whimsicalism</author><text>Key detail from release:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; If, on the Llama 2 version release date, the monthly active users of the products or services made available by or for Licensee, or Licensee’s affiliates, is greater than 700 million monthly active users in the preceding calendar month, you must request a license from Meta, which Meta may grant to you in its sole discretion, and you are not authorized to exercise any of the rights under this Agreement unless or until Meta otherwise expressly grants you such rights.&lt;p&gt;Looks like they are trying to block out competitors, it&amp;#x27;s the perfect commoditize your complement but don&amp;#x27;t let your actual competitors try to eke out any benefit from it.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Llama 2</title><url>https://ai.meta.com/llama/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>galaxyLogic</author><text>I just googled &amp;quot;What is the order of object-fields in JavaScript&amp;quot; and the bard-answer said nothing about the differences between ES5 and ES6 and ES2020 how by now the order of object-fields in fact is deterministic.&lt;p&gt;It seems it is not aware of the notion of historic development, perhaps its world-model is &amp;quot;static&amp;quot;?&lt;p&gt;Temporal reasoning is interesting , if you google for &amp;quot;news&amp;quot; do you get what was news last year because a website updated last year had a page claiming to contain &amp;quot;Latest News&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;REF: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.stefanjudis.com&amp;#x2F;today-i-learned&amp;#x2F;property-order-is-predictable-in-javascript-objects-since-es2015&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.stefanjudis.com&amp;#x2F;today-i-learned&amp;#x2F;property-order-i...&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain><item><author>whimsicalism</author><text>Google&amp;#x27;s model is not as capable as llama-derived models, so I think they would actually benefit from this.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; I wouldn&amp;#x27;t be surprised if Amazon does as well.&lt;p&gt;I would - they are not a very major player in this space.&lt;p&gt;TikTok also meets this definition and probably doesn&amp;#x27;t have LLM.</text></item><item><author>stu2b50</author><text>I think more Apple. It&amp;#x27;s not like Google or Microsoft would &lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt; to use LLaMA when they have fully capable models themselves. I wouldn&amp;#x27;t be surprised if Amazon does as well.&lt;p&gt;Apple is the big laggard in terms of big tech and complex neural network models.</text></item><item><author>minimaxir</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s an oddly high number for blocking competition. OpenAI&amp;#x27;s ChatGPT hit 100 million MAUs in January, and has gone down since.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s essentially a &amp;quot;Amazon and Google don&amp;#x27;t use this k thx.&amp;quot;</text></item><item><author>whimsicalism</author><text>Key detail from release:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; If, on the Llama 2 version release date, the monthly active users of the products or services made available by or for Licensee, or Licensee’s affiliates, is greater than 700 million monthly active users in the preceding calendar month, you must request a license from Meta, which Meta may grant to you in its sole discretion, and you are not authorized to exercise any of the rights under this Agreement unless or until Meta otherwise expressly grants you such rights.&lt;p&gt;Looks like they are trying to block out competitors, it&amp;#x27;s the perfect commoditize your complement but don&amp;#x27;t let your actual competitors try to eke out any benefit from it.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Llama 2</title><url>https://ai.meta.com/llama/</url></story>