<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>grahamlee</author><text>I co-host a GNUstep developer stream at &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitch.tv&amp;#x2F;objcretain&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitch.tv&amp;#x2F;objcretain&lt;/a&gt; (replays at &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;replay.objc-retain.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;replay.objc-retain.com&lt;/a&gt;). The motivation my co-host and I have for using GNUstep in 2021 and beyond is to provide a familiar environment for macOS developers and users who are not happy with Apple’s direction and would benefit from a free software alternative. To that end we mostly work on the basic desktop tools like calendar, mail, and addresses, and fix framework&amp;#x2F;dev tools bugs and missing parts as we find them.</text><parent_chain><item><author>inDigiNeous</author><text>Yeah this was a really interesting project when it got started, like in the late 90s ? Now, realistically, even though I like the idea, who is going to use this ?&lt;p&gt;Maybe like a compatibility setup for old NeXTStep applications ? Or porting some old macOS applications to Linux environments ?&lt;p&gt;Working on top of the X11 implementation also doesn&amp;#x27;t really provoke trust to look into the project.</text></item><item><author>pjmlp</author><text>It was nice endevour to port NeXTSTEP development stack.&lt;p&gt;Nowadays with it being several releases behind macOS tooling, and the whole issue of what from Objective-C v-latest is actually supported, it is more of a curiosity and nostalgic experience.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>GNUstep: Open-source, Object-oriented, Cross-platform Development Environment</title><url>http://gnustep.org</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>donatj</author><text>&amp;gt; Working on top of the X11 implementation also doesn&amp;#x27;t really provoke trust to look into the project.&lt;p&gt;Vs Wayland? I&amp;#x27;d have way more doubts about anything that ran exclusively on Wayland than on X11.&lt;p&gt;Wayland isn&amp;#x27;t ready, I have serious doubts it&amp;#x27;s ever going to be ready.&lt;p&gt;X11 is old, but so is vim, emacs, grep, everything I want to actually rely on.</text><parent_chain><item><author>inDigiNeous</author><text>Yeah this was a really interesting project when it got started, like in the late 90s ? Now, realistically, even though I like the idea, who is going to use this ?&lt;p&gt;Maybe like a compatibility setup for old NeXTStep applications ? Or porting some old macOS applications to Linux environments ?&lt;p&gt;Working on top of the X11 implementation also doesn&amp;#x27;t really provoke trust to look into the project.</text></item><item><author>pjmlp</author><text>It was nice endevour to port NeXTSTEP development stack.&lt;p&gt;Nowadays with it being several releases behind macOS tooling, and the whole issue of what from Objective-C v-latest is actually supported, it is more of a curiosity and nostalgic experience.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>GNUstep: Open-source, Object-oriented, Cross-platform Development Environment</title><url>http://gnustep.org</url></story>