<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>flexie</author><text>Whereas we in the EU have our own dubious surveillance programmes, at least they are made by governments we can overthrow ourselves.&lt;p&gt;Also, European governments mostly grant us basic human rights, have no secret overseas prisons, no death penalty for &amp;quot;treason&amp;quot;, no decade long imprisonments for whistle blowing or hacking, no secret military tribunals, no recent record of torture, almost no drones, small military, tiny intelligence budgets etc.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>US surveillance revelations deepen European fears</title><url>http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/07/europe-surveillance-prism-idUSL5N0EJ31S20130607</url><text></text></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>BjoernKW</author><text>While I appreciate this statement I doubt that Germany and the EU is fundamentally different from the US in that matter.&lt;p&gt;Sure, in Germany recently we&amp;#x27;ve been quite successful in fending off planned legislation that would&amp;#x27;ve allowed massive privacy intrusions but in general the political establishment over here isn&amp;#x27;t exactly a champion of civil liberties either.&lt;p&gt;Besides, I&amp;#x27;m certain both German and EU administrative bodies closely cooperate with the US on intelligence matters and would more than gladly accept sharing those findings.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>US surveillance revelations deepen European fears</title><url>http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/07/europe-surveillance-prism-idUSL5N0EJ31S20130607</url><text></text></story>