<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>PragmaticPulp</author><text>&amp;gt; To guard against false positives, the Mandatory Guidelines for Federal Workplace Drug Testing Programs, published in 2017, require a codeine cutoff of 2,000 nanograms per milliliter of urine. But the Hackensack University Medical Center&amp;#x27;s lab, according to Kate&amp;#x27;s complaint, used a cutoff of 300 ng&amp;#x2F;ml, less than one-sixth the federal standard. Virtua Voorhees Hospital&amp;#x27;s lab, according to Kaitlin&amp;#x27;s complaint, used a cutoff of just 10 ng&amp;#x2F;ml, 99.5 percent lower than the recommended level.&lt;p&gt;Using a cutoff that is 200 times more strict than standard drug testing practices without giving the patient any warning that they’ll be tested (and guidance to avoid poppy seed foods) is asking for false positives.&lt;p&gt;Given that the other cases resulted in six-figure settlements, it’s surprising that this practice continues.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Hospitals are reporting new mothers for neglect from poppyseed false positives</title><url>https://reason.com/2023/03/23/hospitals-are-still-reporting-new-mothers-for-neglect-based-on-drug-tests-triggered-by-poppy-seeds/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>tristor</author><text>There are at least 5 separate issues at play here, but the one most front-and-center in my mind is that under no circumstance should any medical procedure be done on any person in the US without informed consent of the person, their guardian, or their medical PoA.&lt;p&gt;Even if a procedure is &amp;quot;medically necessary&amp;quot;, that does not give doctors the permission to do that procedure without your informed consent.  When a procedure is not &amp;quot;medically necessary&amp;quot;, it&amp;#x27;s even worse.  There are people who refuse &amp;quot;medically necessary&amp;quot; procedures every day in this country on numerous different grounds, including religious grounds, and this is deeply legally protected and well upheld in case law.&lt;p&gt;There is no valid justification for the behavior of these hospitals.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Hospitals are reporting new mothers for neglect from poppyseed false positives</title><url>https://reason.com/2023/03/23/hospitals-are-still-reporting-new-mothers-for-neglect-based-on-drug-tests-triggered-by-poppy-seeds/</url></story>