<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>ProAm</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s thrown into an account that the creator can retrieve at anytime.  A hole incorrectly insinuates it&amp;#x27;s never retrievable.  This is a good way to get away from Googles monetization handcuffs.</text><parent_chain><item><author>joshuamorton</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s thrown into a hole in exactly the same way that my $30 I tipped btc is not mine, because I never got it out of the system.&lt;p&gt;Edit: I said it better in response to a sibling of yours: I think it&amp;#x27;s unethical for a platform to accept payment on my behalf without my permission.</text></item><item><author>Ajedi32</author><text>The money doesn&amp;#x27;t go &amp;quot;into a hole&amp;quot;. The funds are saved and a creator can retrieve them at any time once they sign up for an account: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;brave.com&amp;#x2F;publishers&amp;#x2F;#getverified&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;brave.com&amp;#x2F;publishers&amp;#x2F;#getverified&lt;/a&gt; Basically, it&amp;#x27;s their money, and whether they decide to withdraw it or not is entirely up to them.&lt;p&gt;IMO this is the right way to do it because it solves the chicken and egg problem that would normally exist with a universal funding method like this. Users don&amp;#x27;t have to worry about what payment platforms their favorite creators support; they can just browse the web like normal and the platform takes care of the rest.</text></item><item><author>joshuamorton</author><text>(disclosure, I work at google, and previously at YouTube)&lt;p&gt;This allows a user to donate to a content creator even if that creator doesn&amp;#x27;t have any way to get access the donations. That is, until youtubers start registering themselves in the payment tool, this is essentially watching someone&amp;#x27;s video, and then throwing money into a hole.&lt;p&gt;With other patronage systems, like patreon, you cannot donate money until the creator has an account. To me, that feels super sketch.&lt;p&gt;Edit: It reminded me to go and check my old bitcointip and altcointip accounts on reddit, on which I apparently had combined closed to $30 in BTC at today&amp;#x27;s prices, but which have both been shuttered and are now inaccessible. That&amp;#x27;s not promising.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube</title><url>https://basicattentiontoken.org/brave-expands-basic-attention-token-platform-to-youtube/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>33W</author><text>&amp;gt; I think it&amp;#x27;s unethical for a platform to accept payment on my behalf without my permission.&lt;p&gt;Would it be similarly unethical to accept donations to {charity} without first getting their approval?</text><parent_chain><item><author>joshuamorton</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s thrown into a hole in exactly the same way that my $30 I tipped btc is not mine, because I never got it out of the system.&lt;p&gt;Edit: I said it better in response to a sibling of yours: I think it&amp;#x27;s unethical for a platform to accept payment on my behalf without my permission.</text></item><item><author>Ajedi32</author><text>The money doesn&amp;#x27;t go &amp;quot;into a hole&amp;quot;. The funds are saved and a creator can retrieve them at any time once they sign up for an account: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;brave.com&amp;#x2F;publishers&amp;#x2F;#getverified&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;brave.com&amp;#x2F;publishers&amp;#x2F;#getverified&lt;/a&gt; Basically, it&amp;#x27;s their money, and whether they decide to withdraw it or not is entirely up to them.&lt;p&gt;IMO this is the right way to do it because it solves the chicken and egg problem that would normally exist with a universal funding method like this. Users don&amp;#x27;t have to worry about what payment platforms their favorite creators support; they can just browse the web like normal and the platform takes care of the rest.</text></item><item><author>joshuamorton</author><text>(disclosure, I work at google, and previously at YouTube)&lt;p&gt;This allows a user to donate to a content creator even if that creator doesn&amp;#x27;t have any way to get access the donations. That is, until youtubers start registering themselves in the payment tool, this is essentially watching someone&amp;#x27;s video, and then throwing money into a hole.&lt;p&gt;With other patronage systems, like patreon, you cannot donate money until the creator has an account. To me, that feels super sketch.&lt;p&gt;Edit: It reminded me to go and check my old bitcointip and altcointip accounts on reddit, on which I apparently had combined closed to $30 in BTC at today&amp;#x27;s prices, but which have both been shuttered and are now inaccessible. That&amp;#x27;s not promising.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube</title><url>https://basicattentiontoken.org/brave-expands-basic-attention-token-platform-to-youtube/</url></story>