<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>Kamq</author><text>&amp;gt; It says a lot about how confused political discourse gets that the author considers these things &amp;quot;not politics&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Politics&amp;quot;, used in this context is used to mean: the set of topics that professional politicians and certain media figures are arguing about, that are liable to cause big arguments that leave everyone involved feeling bitter and not change anyone&amp;#x27;s mind.&lt;p&gt;Interpreting the term in a literal manner is not useful.</text><parent_chain><item><author>roenxi</author><text>It says a lot about how confused political discourse gets that the author considers these things &amp;quot;not politics&amp;quot;. Politics is all about value judgements and arguing about where we are going.&lt;p&gt;If things like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5... don&amp;#x27;t immediately become intensely political then somebody is being very ineffective at politics. There seems to be a weird assumption here that politics is fundamentally in bad faith and people aren&amp;#x27;t acting from value judgements and reason.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Things to argue about over the holidays instead of politics</title><url>https://dynomight.net/arguments/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>throw827474737</author><text>&amp;gt; It says a lot about how confused political discourse gets that the author considers these things &amp;quot;not politics&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;Another pro tip for argues over the holidays: don&amp;#x27;t be that nit-picky... even if you are right on some level, I&amp;#x27;m not sure who would call such topics current political discourse topics (:&lt;p&gt;Best tip though: keep the discussions away, delve in the happy shared past, dream about a better future, or just enjoy the moment! Merry christmas!</text><parent_chain><item><author>roenxi</author><text>It says a lot about how confused political discourse gets that the author considers these things &amp;quot;not politics&amp;quot;. Politics is all about value judgements and arguing about where we are going.&lt;p&gt;If things like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5... don&amp;#x27;t immediately become intensely political then somebody is being very ineffective at politics. There seems to be a weird assumption here that politics is fundamentally in bad faith and people aren&amp;#x27;t acting from value judgements and reason.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Things to argue about over the holidays instead of politics</title><url>https://dynomight.net/arguments/</url></story>