<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>cletus</author><text>IME Apple has always been the most honest when it makes performance claims. LIke when they said an Macbook Air would last 10+ hours and third-party reviewers would get 8-9+ hours. All the while, Dell or HP would claim 19 hours and you&amp;#x27;d be lucky to get 2 eg [1].&lt;p&gt;As for CPU power use, of course that doesn&amp;#x27;t translate into doubling battery life because there are other components. And yes, it seems the OLED display uses more power so, all in all, battery life seems to be about the same.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m interested to see an M3 vs M4 performance comparison in the real world. IIRC the M3 was a questionable upgrade. Some things were better but some weren&amp;#x27;t.&lt;p&gt;Overall the M-series SoCs have been an excellent product however.&lt;p&gt;[1]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.laptopmag.com&amp;#x2F;features&amp;#x2F;laptop-battery-life-claims-debunked&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.laptopmag.com&amp;#x2F;features&amp;#x2F;laptop-battery-life-claim...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;EDIT: added link</text><parent_chain><item><author>izacus</author><text>Apple usually massively exaggerates their tech spec comparison - is it REALLY half the power use of all times (so we&amp;#x27;ll get double the battery life) or is it half the power use in some scenarios (so we&amp;#x27;ll get like... 15% more battery life total) ?</text></item><item><author>praseodym</author><text>&amp;quot;With these improvements to the CPU and GPU, M4 maintains Apple silicon’s industry-leading performance per watt. M4 can deliver the same performance as M2 using just half the power. And compared with the latest PC chip in a thin and light laptop, M4 can deliver the same performance using just a fourth of the power.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s an incredible improvement in just a few years. I wonder how much of that is Apple engineering and how much is TSMC improving their 3nm process.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Apple introduces M4 chip</title><url>https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/05/apple-introduces-m4-chip/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>philistine</author><text>Quickly looking at the press release, it seems to have the same comparisons as in the video. None of Apple&amp;#x27;s comparisons today are between the M3 and M4. They are ALL comparing the M2 and M4. Why? It&amp;#x27;s frustrating, but today Apple replaced a product with an M2 with a product with an M4. Apple always compares product to product, never component to component when it comes to processors. So those specs are far more impressive than if we could have numbers between the M3 and M4.</text><parent_chain><item><author>izacus</author><text>Apple usually massively exaggerates their tech spec comparison - is it REALLY half the power use of all times (so we&amp;#x27;ll get double the battery life) or is it half the power use in some scenarios (so we&amp;#x27;ll get like... 15% more battery life total) ?</text></item><item><author>praseodym</author><text>&amp;quot;With these improvements to the CPU and GPU, M4 maintains Apple silicon’s industry-leading performance per watt. M4 can deliver the same performance as M2 using just half the power. And compared with the latest PC chip in a thin and light laptop, M4 can deliver the same performance using just a fourth of the power.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s an incredible improvement in just a few years. I wonder how much of that is Apple engineering and how much is TSMC improving their 3nm process.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Apple introduces M4 chip</title><url>https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/05/apple-introduces-m4-chip/</url></story>