<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>hippee-lee</author><text>Can you point to some example that are a bit more complex in nature? My issue (that I identified with the backbone tutorials and re affirmed with the Angular tutorials) is that simple apps are easy to do with x, y or z. But if the new one or that one is going to replace the old one there should be 37 signals level complexity type apps out there. While I can&amp;#x27;t speak for Meteor, I don&amp;#x27;t see anything running on angular that&amp;#x27;s at that level.&lt;p&gt;Caveats: I glossed over the fact that angular is not a full stack, I have seen a few angular videos where teams have demoed and presented on complex angular apps.</text><parent_chain><item><author>joshowens</author><text>Sure:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shinglecentral.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.shinglecentral.com&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://assistant.io/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;assistant.io&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://lister.io/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;lister.io&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Are just a few from the last 1.5 months.</text></item><item><author>jarsbe</author><text>I&amp;#x27;d love to see some examples of these apps, are you able to please share?</text></item><item><author>joshowens</author><text>This isn&amp;#x27;t just fashion.  We launch client apps in 6 weeks, time isn&amp;#x27;t negligible for us.</text></item><item><author>bowlofpetunias</author><text>Why do people put so much effort in comparing tool A to tool B when either of those tools only cover 5% of all the work that goes into any serious application, and the time saved by any advantage tool A has over tool B is pretty much negligible?&lt;p&gt;I mean cool, so Meteor is maybe better for prototyping. Because that&amp;#x27;s all we&amp;#x27;re talking about here, prototypes and ultra-simple websites.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s always the same story, a shiny new tools that make the first weeks a little smoother, and after that it&amp;#x27;s business as usually for entire life cycle of the application.&lt;p&gt;Except of course you now have to deal with a tool that still has years to go before it&amp;#x27;s really mature and stable, and any advantage you gained in the first few weeks is completely lost.&lt;p&gt;This has nothing to do with software development, this is just about fashion.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails</title><url>http://differential.io/blog/meteor-killin-rails</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>general_failure</author><text>I fail to see how meteor helps build these sites. These can be built by normal CMS can&amp;#x27;t they?</text><parent_chain><item><author>joshowens</author><text>Sure:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shinglecentral.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.shinglecentral.com&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://assistant.io/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;assistant.io&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://lister.io/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;lister.io&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Are just a few from the last 1.5 months.</text></item><item><author>jarsbe</author><text>I&amp;#x27;d love to see some examples of these apps, are you able to please share?</text></item><item><author>joshowens</author><text>This isn&amp;#x27;t just fashion.  We launch client apps in 6 weeks, time isn&amp;#x27;t negligible for us.</text></item><item><author>bowlofpetunias</author><text>Why do people put so much effort in comparing tool A to tool B when either of those tools only cover 5% of all the work that goes into any serious application, and the time saved by any advantage tool A has over tool B is pretty much negligible?&lt;p&gt;I mean cool, so Meteor is maybe better for prototyping. Because that&amp;#x27;s all we&amp;#x27;re talking about here, prototypes and ultra-simple websites.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s always the same story, a shiny new tools that make the first weeks a little smoother, and after that it&amp;#x27;s business as usually for entire life cycle of the application.&lt;p&gt;Except of course you now have to deal with a tool that still has years to go before it&amp;#x27;s really mature and stable, and any advantage you gained in the first few weeks is completely lost.&lt;p&gt;This has nothing to do with software development, this is just about fashion.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails</title><url>http://differential.io/blog/meteor-killin-rails</url></story>