<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>Nav_Panel</author><text>Buddy of mine has a $20k pair of monitors in a soundproofed room, and I was able to A&amp;#x2F;B 320 vs lossless on that system only, and only on certain types of material. The difference was only evident in the very high frequencies, and I really had to focus to tell.</text><parent_chain><item><author>brianmcc</author><text>You certainly aren&amp;#x27;t alone! I find 128kbps unlistenable but I A&amp;#x2F;B tested 320 vs lossless and - nope, couldn&amp;#x27;t tell the difference, even trying hard to do so.&lt;p&gt;I consider myself an enthusiast&amp;#x2F;hobbyist, not an audiophile, and hold a pretty high level of scepticism about the truly devoted tbh.&lt;p&gt;That said I&amp;#x27;ve never had the pleasure of listening to anything north of around the £10k mark, so I would love to be convinced of a genuine move-the-dial listening benefit of the really high end gear!</text></item><item><author>UniverseHacker</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve always felt totally alone falling somewhere between hardcore audiophiles and the &amp;#x27;norm,&amp;#x27; which seems to feel a cell phone or cheap laptop speaker is as good as anything else for music. I really notice the difference between cheap crap, and say an older used brand name receiver with freestanding floor speakers, the kind of system you can find on craigslist for about $100. But I cannot notice a major difference between the $100 system, and say a $100k system (or whatever audiophiles spend). I also do notice a big difference between a 96Kbps MP3 and 320Kbps, but not between 320Kbps and lossless.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Improved audio rendering with an optimised version of memcpy (2013)</title><url>https://www.audioasylum.com/messages/pcaudio/119979/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>alfalfasprout</author><text>10-15k (mostly in speakers) is around when you start experiencing strongly diminishing returns.&lt;p&gt;Some really nice floorstanding speakers though offer a jaw dropping improvement that’s measurable.</text><parent_chain><item><author>brianmcc</author><text>You certainly aren&amp;#x27;t alone! I find 128kbps unlistenable but I A&amp;#x2F;B tested 320 vs lossless and - nope, couldn&amp;#x27;t tell the difference, even trying hard to do so.&lt;p&gt;I consider myself an enthusiast&amp;#x2F;hobbyist, not an audiophile, and hold a pretty high level of scepticism about the truly devoted tbh.&lt;p&gt;That said I&amp;#x27;ve never had the pleasure of listening to anything north of around the £10k mark, so I would love to be convinced of a genuine move-the-dial listening benefit of the really high end gear!</text></item><item><author>UniverseHacker</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve always felt totally alone falling somewhere between hardcore audiophiles and the &amp;#x27;norm,&amp;#x27; which seems to feel a cell phone or cheap laptop speaker is as good as anything else for music. I really notice the difference between cheap crap, and say an older used brand name receiver with freestanding floor speakers, the kind of system you can find on craigslist for about $100. But I cannot notice a major difference between the $100 system, and say a $100k system (or whatever audiophiles spend). I also do notice a big difference between a 96Kbps MP3 and 320Kbps, but not between 320Kbps and lossless.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Improved audio rendering with an optimised version of memcpy (2013)</title><url>https://www.audioasylum.com/messages/pcaudio/119979/</url></story>