<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>jdietrich</author><text>It still wouldn&amp;#x27;t help. It&amp;#x27;s cheaper to manufacture electronics in China &lt;i&gt;even if the labor costs are the same&lt;/i&gt;. The logistics are vastly better over there. If you need PCBs or components, you can have them direct from the factory on the same day. If you have a production problem, you can get a specialist engineer the same day. If you need a new production line with 200 extra staff, you can have it up and running in two weeks.&lt;p&gt;An established EMS company like Jabil has huge economies of scale and tremendous in-house resources. They have long relationships with suppliers and consultants. A startup can&amp;#x27;t possibly compete with that.</text><parent_chain><item><author>talmand</author><text>I often wonder if costs could be lowered for many of these companies if they would stop locating in some of the country&amp;#x27;s most expensive places to operate and for their employees to live. I know the arguments about workforce availability and all that, but I&amp;#x27;ve never seen a proper look into it.</text></item><item><author>legitster</author><text>A lot of people wonder why large companies can&amp;#x27;t just stay in the US and compete on quality, and here is a great case for why. It doesn&amp;#x27;t matter how great your workers are, you can&amp;#x27;t sell a product for $3,000 when others are selling it for $600. Especially when it&amp;#x27;s a technology still in development.&lt;p&gt;And I know we pay extra for the warm and fuzzies knowing that something is made in the states, but I&amp;#x27;m sure the home tinkerer in Indianapolis doesn&amp;#x27;t get super warm and fuzzy thinking of paying an extra $2000 just to support some exorbitant Brooklyn rent.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>MakerBot Is Outsourcing Its Brooklyn Manufacturing Jobs to China</title><url>http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2016/04/25/makerbot-partners-with-contract-manufacturer-to-increase-production-flexibility</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>bardworx</author><text>Makerbot Studio is in Industry City, where rent isn&amp;#x27;t exactly &amp;quot;expensive&amp;quot;.[0]&lt;p&gt;Rent (for employees) is also very accessible in the nearby area, nothing close to Manhattan or some swanky neighborhood in BK. (I live nearby)&lt;p&gt;In my opinion, especially in technology, its just hard to operate at scale and not produce products in China. Not only is their labor force less expensive but the parts that you require are manufactured there as well.&lt;p&gt;[0] : &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;commercialobserver.com&amp;#x2F;2015&amp;#x2F;09&amp;#x2F;brooklyns-sunset-park-is-about-much-more-than-just-industry-city&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;commercialobserver.com&amp;#x2F;2015&amp;#x2F;09&amp;#x2F;brooklyns-sunset-park...&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain><item><author>talmand</author><text>I often wonder if costs could be lowered for many of these companies if they would stop locating in some of the country&amp;#x27;s most expensive places to operate and for their employees to live. I know the arguments about workforce availability and all that, but I&amp;#x27;ve never seen a proper look into it.</text></item><item><author>legitster</author><text>A lot of people wonder why large companies can&amp;#x27;t just stay in the US and compete on quality, and here is a great case for why. It doesn&amp;#x27;t matter how great your workers are, you can&amp;#x27;t sell a product for $3,000 when others are selling it for $600. Especially when it&amp;#x27;s a technology still in development.&lt;p&gt;And I know we pay extra for the warm and fuzzies knowing that something is made in the states, but I&amp;#x27;m sure the home tinkerer in Indianapolis doesn&amp;#x27;t get super warm and fuzzy thinking of paying an extra $2000 just to support some exorbitant Brooklyn rent.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>MakerBot Is Outsourcing Its Brooklyn Manufacturing Jobs to China</title><url>http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2016/04/25/makerbot-partners-with-contract-manufacturer-to-increase-production-flexibility</url></story>