<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>StanislavPetrov</author><text>&amp;gt;But I keep hearing employment is great, productivity is great, stock market is great&lt;p&gt;The question you have to ask is, who are you hearing this from?  The answer is: people with a vested interest in making you believe the economy is doing great, or people fooled into believing this by those with a vested interest.&lt;p&gt;I suggest you closely examine the metrics used by those who claim the &amp;quot;economy is great&amp;quot;.  First these metrics are usually comparing year-over-year changes to point to &amp;quot;positive changes&amp;quot; in the economy.  What they fail to announce is that the formulas they use to calculate these metrics are &amp;quot;adjusted&amp;quot; regularly to ensure that the numbers they seek are reflected.  CPI is a perfect example.  The FED claims that inflation has been very low, if not non-existent for years (good for workers, since their wages have fallen or remained stagnant for decades).  Some have noted, however, that prices for most of the things people need to survive (food, rent, education, healthcare, insurance) continue to rise dramatically.  How can this be?  Well one way the FED lies with their numbers is through a mechanism called the &amp;quot;hedonic adjustment&amp;quot;.  If you paid $2 for a roll 60-sheet roll of toilet paper last year.  This year you paid $3 for a 60-sheet roll this year, that&amp;#x27;s some serious inflation, right?  Not according to the FED.  The FED claims that the quality of the toilet paper is better now.  Even though you are paying 50% more, the FED says the toilet paper is 50% better, so there is no inflation.  How are these &amp;quot;hedonic adjustments&amp;quot; calculated?  Arbitrarily by FED functionaries, in a black-box.&lt;p&gt;Rising debt, falling and stagnant wages, higher prices, consolidation of wealth - these are the real conditions we face and why our economy is lagging.  Many will look at you as if you are wearing a tinfoil hat if you question the &amp;quot;official numbers&amp;quot;, but even casual scrutiny of the methods and metrics used (the ones they do release) will raise substantial doubts about their worth.</text><parent_chain><item><author>1_2__4</author><text>I hate sounding both old and weird but I cannot shake the feeling that much of the claims of economic health and growth in the US is... if not fake (I’m not totally nuts) but not accurate. My most charitable interpretation if I’m right is that we’re using the wrong metrics (possibly intentionally) that give a distorted view of the economy. But I keep hearing employment is great, productivity is great, stock market is great, and yet it seems like most anecdotal evidence I see and read about suggest this is all hollow, and things are actually really bad for the average American.&lt;p&gt;I don’t know. I know how it sounds. But I can’t stop thinking that stuff isn’t adding up. And this article is one more to add to the pile of “how can this be happening if the economy is actually healthy, at least in a way that means people’s financial lives are healthy and prosperous?”</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>More Americans Are Falling Behind on Student Loans, and Nobody Quite Knows Why</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-28/more-americans-are-falling-behind-on-student-loans-and-nobody-quite-knows-why</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>CaptSpify</author><text>Sure it&amp;#x27;s fake. Our economic models are so out of touch with reality, it&amp;#x27;s a wonder the system works at all. We treat digital goods the same as physical goods, we spend tons of money to prop up giant failing structures instead of letting them fall apart, we let those that make the most walk away without paying their fair share, we subsidize stuff that nobody wants and is harmful to us, and aren&amp;#x27;t even close to making anyone pay for externalities accurately.&lt;p&gt;I feel like we&amp;#x27;re headed into a really deep economic downturn, but hey, at least we have plenty of golden parachutes for the rich!</text><parent_chain><item><author>1_2__4</author><text>I hate sounding both old and weird but I cannot shake the feeling that much of the claims of economic health and growth in the US is... if not fake (I’m not totally nuts) but not accurate. My most charitable interpretation if I’m right is that we’re using the wrong metrics (possibly intentionally) that give a distorted view of the economy. But I keep hearing employment is great, productivity is great, stock market is great, and yet it seems like most anecdotal evidence I see and read about suggest this is all hollow, and things are actually really bad for the average American.&lt;p&gt;I don’t know. I know how it sounds. But I can’t stop thinking that stuff isn’t adding up. And this article is one more to add to the pile of “how can this be happening if the economy is actually healthy, at least in a way that means people’s financial lives are healthy and prosperous?”</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>More Americans Are Falling Behind on Student Loans, and Nobody Quite Knows Why</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-28/more-americans-are-falling-behind-on-student-loans-and-nobody-quite-knows-why</url></story>