<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>coldtea</author><text>&amp;gt;&lt;i&gt;It&amp;#x27;s absolutely ridiculous that Macs don&amp;#x27;t come with a 3 year warranty by default.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Government should mandate that, as in does in other countries.&lt;p&gt;But many american consumers don&amp;#x27;t believe in government rules about consumer protection, lest some of this &amp;quot;innovation&amp;quot; we&amp;#x27;ve witnessed is discouraged...</text><parent_chain><item><author>pier25</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s absolutely ridiculous that Macs don&amp;#x27;t come with a 3 year warranty by default.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve bought maybe a dozen macs in the last 15 years (for myself and the family) and while some have lasted many years without issues, some have died on me on the second or third year.&lt;p&gt;Because the initial investment is so high you&amp;#x27;re practically forced to add extra Apple Care to protect it because there&amp;#x27;s a 20-30% chance you will have problems during those first years.&lt;p&gt;And don&amp;#x27;t get me started on design issues and recalls which take years. When my 2011 MBP died because of Radeongate it took Apple 2 years to start a recall and replace the GPU. The honest thing to do would have been to take the machine and offer 60% of its value in credit towards a new Mac. Instead, Apple replaced the GPU on a machine that was already a couple of gens behind and I couldn&amp;#x27;t sell without practically giving it away because (rightfully) nobody wanted the 15&amp;#x27;&amp;#x27; 2011 models. That MBP was probably the worst investment of my life.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs</title><url>https://pqvst.com/2021/08/24/my-macbook-pro/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>Macha</author><text>In the EU, there&amp;#x27;s a _seller_ obligation for 2 years for items in the same class as laptop to ensure they are free from defects and fit for purpose. It won&amp;#x27;t help you if _you_ break your laptop, and after 6 months the burden of proof in the event of a dispute switches from the seller to the buyer, but I feel like pretty much all the issues the OP encountered would be covered under this.&lt;p&gt;A lot of add on warranties don&amp;#x27;t cover much more than this anyway, which makes them much harder to justify here.</text><parent_chain><item><author>pier25</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s absolutely ridiculous that Macs don&amp;#x27;t come with a 3 year warranty by default.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve bought maybe a dozen macs in the last 15 years (for myself and the family) and while some have lasted many years without issues, some have died on me on the second or third year.&lt;p&gt;Because the initial investment is so high you&amp;#x27;re practically forced to add extra Apple Care to protect it because there&amp;#x27;s a 20-30% chance you will have problems during those first years.&lt;p&gt;And don&amp;#x27;t get me started on design issues and recalls which take years. When my 2011 MBP died because of Radeongate it took Apple 2 years to start a recall and replace the GPU. The honest thing to do would have been to take the machine and offer 60% of its value in credit towards a new Mac. Instead, Apple replaced the GPU on a machine that was already a couple of gens behind and I couldn&amp;#x27;t sell without practically giving it away because (rightfully) nobody wanted the 15&amp;#x27;&amp;#x27; 2011 models. That MBP was probably the worst investment of my life.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs</title><url>https://pqvst.com/2021/08/24/my-macbook-pro/</url></story>