<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>jmillikin</author><text>Is anyone else dismayed by the implicit view of these sorts of articles, that browsers should be complicated and full of all these insecure features?&lt;p&gt;It reminds me strongly of PDF and Acrobat. PDF is great for mailing around print-ready documents, which are more-or-less guaranteed to look the same for every viewer. Writing a PDF renderer is not easy, but it is straightforward, and there are multiple stable implementations without significant security problems.&lt;p&gt;Then Adobe comes along and they add forms, and 3D charts, or Javascript, or multimedia, and Acrobat grows from a document viewer into what is essentially a backdoor on every Windows computer.&lt;p&gt;A similar thing is happening with browsers. The core purpose of a web browser is the ability to render HTML+CSS into a human-readable document. Then browser vendors added forms and Javascript, so XSS was invented. They added persistent data storage, so looking at cat pictures can compromise my bank account. And now, Chrome+Firefox are /competing/ to see who can add more features, security be damned.&lt;p&gt;WebGL exposes your graphics drivers (never security-audited before) to the internet. &amp;#60;audio&amp;#62; and &amp;#60;video&amp;#62; expose multimedia codecs, which in the past have caused numerous security problems. Flash is, essentially, a cross-platform way to let arbitrary people run exploits on your machine.&lt;p&gt;When will it stop? When will browser vendors take a collective breath, look around, and realize the insanity they&apos;ve been perpetrating?</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Chromium Blog: A Tale Of Two Pwnies (Part 2)</title><url>http://blog.chromium.org/2012/06/tale-of-two-pwnies-part-2.html</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>tptacek</author><text>Once again, there&apos;s two ways of reading this story. One way is from the attacker&apos;s perspective, baffling yourself as to how Glazunov could have found all these bugs and assembled them in the right order. The other is from the defender&apos;s perspective, gaining an appreciation for how well the security model is working that it takes an exploit this intricate to break it.&lt;p&gt;Either way, you&apos;re doing something right when your documentation of a security vulnerability in your product actually serves to market the security of that product. The Chrome security team is doing a lot of stuff right.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Chromium Blog: A Tale Of Two Pwnies (Part 2)</title><url>http://blog.chromium.org/2012/06/tale-of-two-pwnies-part-2.html</url></story>