<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>FrozenVoid</author><text>It makes sense for youtube, but not content creators.
Patreon is third-party service generally insulated from content.
Patreon wouldn&amp;#x27;t ban you if Youtube bans you.
If youtube controls your finances, they can dictate their terms to you, and if you refuse both your financial revenue channel and content channel are gone.</text><parent_chain><item><author>billdybas</author><text>Strategy-wise, it makes sense that they&amp;#x27;re cloning Patreon &amp;amp; Twitch features to keep people on the platform, but I think YouTube is going to need to innovate further if they want creators to trust them with their entire monetization strategy (i.e. ads, subscriptions, merch).&lt;p&gt;Patreon is significantly investing in creators and building tools to help them grow their online businesses. [1] It feels like YouTube wants to be too many things and has lost focus on empowering creators.&lt;p&gt;Also, $4.99 feels too steep – many people only give $1-2 on Patreon. And we&amp;#x27;ll have to see if the subscription recurs the same day of the month you subscribed or if it&amp;#x27;s aggregated to the start of the month like Patreon.&lt;p&gt;[1]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blog.patreon.com&amp;#x2F;manage-and-track-what-you-deliver-to-patrons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blog.patreon.com&amp;#x2F;manage-and-track-what-you-deliver-t...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>YouTube introduces channel memberships, merchandise and premieres</title><url>https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/21/youtube-introduces-channel-memberships-merchandise-and-premieres/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>dannyw</author><text>Patreon&amp;#x27;s fee is about 5% plus 2-3% for payment processing (7-8% total). This is a fraction of YouTube&amp;#x27;s 30% cut.&lt;p&gt;Plenty of people spend $20 or even $50 a month on Patreon channels. Some also have $200 tiers for custom videos, etc.</text><parent_chain><item><author>billdybas</author><text>Strategy-wise, it makes sense that they&amp;#x27;re cloning Patreon &amp;amp; Twitch features to keep people on the platform, but I think YouTube is going to need to innovate further if they want creators to trust them with their entire monetization strategy (i.e. ads, subscriptions, merch).&lt;p&gt;Patreon is significantly investing in creators and building tools to help them grow their online businesses. [1] It feels like YouTube wants to be too many things and has lost focus on empowering creators.&lt;p&gt;Also, $4.99 feels too steep – many people only give $1-2 on Patreon. And we&amp;#x27;ll have to see if the subscription recurs the same day of the month you subscribed or if it&amp;#x27;s aggregated to the start of the month like Patreon.&lt;p&gt;[1]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blog.patreon.com&amp;#x2F;manage-and-track-what-you-deliver-to-patrons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blog.patreon.com&amp;#x2F;manage-and-track-what-you-deliver-t...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>YouTube introduces channel memberships, merchandise and premieres</title><url>https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/21/youtube-introduces-channel-memberships-merchandise-and-premieres/</url></story>