<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>bradleyjg</author><text>Reading down below, it sounds like your crime didn’t really have individual victims. It cost all of us a little something in higher prices or fees or similar. In a case like that, I think it’s a lot easier to say that we as a society should forgive and forget.&lt;p&gt;There is another side of the coin. Having worked with some crime victims, there are a lot of crimes out there where it’s not just some diffuse, whole society damage. Everyone thinks of the big ones—homicides and rape—and yes, of course, those are the worst. But even “just” home burglary can leave people never feeling safe in their homes for the rest of their lives.&lt;p&gt;In cases where the victim never gets to move on with his or her life how much should we work towards making sure the victimizer can?</text><parent_chain><item><author>joshmn</author><text>As a former felon, I&amp;#x27;ve learned first-hand the fallout from being named in crime stories. The AP has it right in that a lot of it isn&amp;#x27;t realized by readers or society.&lt;p&gt;Upon being charged with crimes, I had to make my way through the court system. As a consequence of my actions, the courts punished me. Once I had showed that I was not a serial offender but instead someone who had moments of weakness, lost identity, and subsequently poor judgement, the courts let me go.&lt;p&gt;Once I paid my debts to the court — figuratively and literally — I was free to live my life without the government watching over my shoulder or further being a burden to my future. My dealings with them had a fixed amount of time attached to it. Once that time limit expired, I was free.&lt;p&gt;Society was far less kind, and hardly as forgiving.&lt;p&gt;No, I&amp;#x27;m not talking about employment — I am and always have been very gainfully employed. No, I&amp;#x27;m not talking about renting an apartment, or getting a loan, or opening a bank account.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m talking about new acquaintances.&lt;p&gt;As we have seen over the past 5 years, in the minds of many a website is a single source of truth. To a large number of people, simply having a website is enough to give confidence to the reader that what&amp;#x27;s written is an absolute and authoritative source. It is only correct, completely unbiased, and contains 100% factual sourcing.&lt;p&gt;When there&amp;#x27;s a webpage with dirty laundry on it, it rarely gets updated to say &amp;quot;later, Judge Judy found suspect to be of good character, and they&amp;#x27;ve since paid their debts to the court.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;No, it just has absolute worst moment on repeat, leaving out all the context and any depth that goes into a legal proceeding. It&amp;#x27;s entirely the worst part of a nightmare.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve personally had a number of articles written in addition to a 15-second segment on the local evening news. Getting a call from a partner who is sobbing, &amp;quot;my parents Googled you.&amp;quot; is absolutely stomach-turning. Knowing my little sister had to go to school the day after the clip played next day was something I am more ashamed about than I can put into words. Thankfully she was too young for a cell phone and social media was still in its infancy.&lt;p&gt;My partner very privy to my dirty laundry. When they first learned of it they were actually surprised. It didn&amp;#x27;t bother them though as they knew who I was as a person and that my days of making mistakes were behind me.&lt;p&gt;Their parents were less understanding. They didn&amp;#x27;t know me like my partner did. They just saw a series of mugshots and some local news articles from mistakes I made as a young adult.&lt;p&gt;It wasn&amp;#x27;t the first and it wasn&amp;#x27;t the last time it happened, either.&lt;p&gt;I have always been transparent and forthcoming with mistakes I&amp;#x27;ve made. I&amp;#x27;m just as candid with friends as I am here on HN. Hell, my profile even says I&amp;#x27;m a former felon!&lt;p&gt;One point does not make a pattern. Many minor crime stories are just a point. That point, on the internet, is a scar, and those who come across them out of curiosity, suspicion, or nosiness re-open the wound.&lt;p&gt;Since my bad decisions, I&amp;#x27;ve had success in contacting the authors of the articles highlighting my worst-moment-kept-in-a-non-governmental-database asking if they&amp;#x27;d consider removing their article. I mentioned I had completed probation and was doing something with my life, and that the article was hurting me and my relationships with people. They obliged.&lt;p&gt;Edit: This isn&amp;#x27;t the first time I&amp;#x27;ve mentioned I&amp;#x27;m a felon in a comment. I&amp;#x27;ve received a surprising number of emails over the years from other felons (or felons-to-be) asking &amp;quot;how did you reintegrate into society?&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;do you have any advice?&amp;quot;. If you&amp;#x27;re one of them and reading this, you&amp;#x27;re more than welcome drop me an email.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>We’re no longer naming suspects in minor crime stories</title><url>https://blog.ap.org/behind-the-news/why-were-no-longer-naming-suspects-in-minor-crime-stories</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>abrookewood</author><text>Thanks for the insight, that was very well written and you&amp;#x27;ve actually changed my opinion on this. Previously I would have been all in favour of long-lasting public criminal records, but it&amp;#x27;s quite clear how they fail to adequately capture the larger story, or account for redemption of any kind.</text><parent_chain><item><author>joshmn</author><text>As a former felon, I&amp;#x27;ve learned first-hand the fallout from being named in crime stories. The AP has it right in that a lot of it isn&amp;#x27;t realized by readers or society.&lt;p&gt;Upon being charged with crimes, I had to make my way through the court system. As a consequence of my actions, the courts punished me. Once I had showed that I was not a serial offender but instead someone who had moments of weakness, lost identity, and subsequently poor judgement, the courts let me go.&lt;p&gt;Once I paid my debts to the court — figuratively and literally — I was free to live my life without the government watching over my shoulder or further being a burden to my future. My dealings with them had a fixed amount of time attached to it. Once that time limit expired, I was free.&lt;p&gt;Society was far less kind, and hardly as forgiving.&lt;p&gt;No, I&amp;#x27;m not talking about employment — I am and always have been very gainfully employed. No, I&amp;#x27;m not talking about renting an apartment, or getting a loan, or opening a bank account.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m talking about new acquaintances.&lt;p&gt;As we have seen over the past 5 years, in the minds of many a website is a single source of truth. To a large number of people, simply having a website is enough to give confidence to the reader that what&amp;#x27;s written is an absolute and authoritative source. It is only correct, completely unbiased, and contains 100% factual sourcing.&lt;p&gt;When there&amp;#x27;s a webpage with dirty laundry on it, it rarely gets updated to say &amp;quot;later, Judge Judy found suspect to be of good character, and they&amp;#x27;ve since paid their debts to the court.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;No, it just has absolute worst moment on repeat, leaving out all the context and any depth that goes into a legal proceeding. It&amp;#x27;s entirely the worst part of a nightmare.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve personally had a number of articles written in addition to a 15-second segment on the local evening news. Getting a call from a partner who is sobbing, &amp;quot;my parents Googled you.&amp;quot; is absolutely stomach-turning. Knowing my little sister had to go to school the day after the clip played next day was something I am more ashamed about than I can put into words. Thankfully she was too young for a cell phone and social media was still in its infancy.&lt;p&gt;My partner very privy to my dirty laundry. When they first learned of it they were actually surprised. It didn&amp;#x27;t bother them though as they knew who I was as a person and that my days of making mistakes were behind me.&lt;p&gt;Their parents were less understanding. They didn&amp;#x27;t know me like my partner did. They just saw a series of mugshots and some local news articles from mistakes I made as a young adult.&lt;p&gt;It wasn&amp;#x27;t the first and it wasn&amp;#x27;t the last time it happened, either.&lt;p&gt;I have always been transparent and forthcoming with mistakes I&amp;#x27;ve made. I&amp;#x27;m just as candid with friends as I am here on HN. Hell, my profile even says I&amp;#x27;m a former felon!&lt;p&gt;One point does not make a pattern. Many minor crime stories are just a point. That point, on the internet, is a scar, and those who come across them out of curiosity, suspicion, or nosiness re-open the wound.&lt;p&gt;Since my bad decisions, I&amp;#x27;ve had success in contacting the authors of the articles highlighting my worst-moment-kept-in-a-non-governmental-database asking if they&amp;#x27;d consider removing their article. I mentioned I had completed probation and was doing something with my life, and that the article was hurting me and my relationships with people. They obliged.&lt;p&gt;Edit: This isn&amp;#x27;t the first time I&amp;#x27;ve mentioned I&amp;#x27;m a felon in a comment. I&amp;#x27;ve received a surprising number of emails over the years from other felons (or felons-to-be) asking &amp;quot;how did you reintegrate into society?&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;do you have any advice?&amp;quot;. If you&amp;#x27;re one of them and reading this, you&amp;#x27;re more than welcome drop me an email.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>We’re no longer naming suspects in minor crime stories</title><url>https://blog.ap.org/behind-the-news/why-were-no-longer-naming-suspects-in-minor-crime-stories</url></story>