<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>tzs</author><text>&amp;gt; I am Chinese and I would respectfully disagree that cheating is some part of Chinese culture.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m not sure what it takes for something to be considered part of a culture, but academic cheating is very widespread in China to the point that there can be strong resistance to local or regional efforts to curb it on the grounds that this will put those who are prevented from cheating at an unfair disadvantage due to the widespread cheating by those outside their region [1].&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s also a plagiarism problem in China, and cultural factors are a major reason for this [2]. More on the scientific plagiarism and fraud problems in China: [3] [4] [5] [6]&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&amp;#x2F;china&amp;#x2F;archive&amp;#x2F;2013&amp;#x2F;06&amp;#x2F;heres-the-quote-that-sums-up-chinas-huge-problem-of-cheating-in-schools&amp;#x2F;277108&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&amp;#x2F;china&amp;#x2F;archive&amp;#x2F;2013&amp;#x2F;06&amp;#x2F;heres-the-q...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[2] &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.npr.org&amp;#x2F;2011&amp;#x2F;08&amp;#x2F;03&amp;#x2F;138937778&amp;#x2F;plagiarism-plague-hinders-chinas-scientific-ambition&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.npr.org&amp;#x2F;2011&amp;#x2F;08&amp;#x2F;03&amp;#x2F;138937778&amp;#x2F;plagiarism-plague-hi...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[3] &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ibtimes.com&amp;#x2F;chinas-scientific-credibility-marred-wrongdoing-top-medical-journal-says-1877209&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ibtimes.com&amp;#x2F;chinas-scientific-credibility-marred-...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[4] &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.economist.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;china&amp;#x2F;21586845-flawed-system-judging-research-leading-academic-fraud-looks-good-paper&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.economist.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;china&amp;#x2F;21586845-flawed-system-j...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[5] &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.sciencemag.org&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;2014&amp;#x2F;10&amp;#x2F;copycat-papers-flag-continuing-headache-china&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.sciencemag.org&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;2014&amp;#x2F;10&amp;#x2F;copycat-papers-flag-c...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[6] &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.nytimes.com&amp;#x2F;2010&amp;#x2F;10&amp;#x2F;07&amp;#x2F;world&amp;#x2F;asia&amp;#x2F;07fraud.html?pagewanted=all&amp;amp;_r=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.nytimes.com&amp;#x2F;2010&amp;#x2F;10&amp;#x2F;07&amp;#x2F;world&amp;#x2F;asia&amp;#x2F;07fraud.html?pa...&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain><item><author>SolaceQuantum</author><text>&amp;gt; Chinese students cheat because cheating is part of Chinese culture. Go to China and you&amp;#x27;ll be shocked at how little people care about others in public, or society at large.&lt;p&gt;I am Chinese and I would respectfully disagree that cheating is some part of Chinese culture. The only  example you gave was basically the bystander effect in action, which you then ascribe to... cheating somehow? Moral depravity of millions of people?&lt;p&gt;Chinese callousness towards strangers is  shocking. Wait till you see what some us politicians have to say about foreigners!</text></item><item><author>Snargorf</author><text>Non-Chinese students also have those same problems, but they don&amp;#x27;t cheat like the Chinese.&lt;p&gt;Chinese students cheat because cheating is part of Chinese culture. Go to China and you&amp;#x27;ll be shocked at how little people care about others in public, or society at large.&lt;p&gt;This is a place where bystanders will watch cars swerve wildly around an open manhole cover over and over, nearly getting in accidents, doing nothing to help. When the Westerner comes by and closes the manhole cover, the Chinese are surprised. They&amp;#x27;d never consider doing anything like that, because - what&amp;#x27;s in it for them?&lt;p&gt;This is a country where people pay others to go to prison for them. If they clip a child with their car, they&amp;#x27;ll deliberately run over the child again and again to make sure he dies and doesn&amp;#x27;t create hospital bills.&lt;p&gt;I was never more staggered by rampant, blatant cheating, plagiarism or dishonesty than when I spent a semester studying in a university there. For someone raised in the West, Chinese callousness and dishonesty towards strangers is unbelievable until you experience it.</text></item><item><author>kirrent</author><text>Australia is also a popular destination for Chinese students and sees high rates of cheating for many of the same reasons as those given in the article. Poor language skills allowed by lax student visa requirements, isolation, and the high penalties for failing a course when your family is paying full price creates desperation.&lt;p&gt;4 corners did a pretty good story on it and the smh investigation into MyMaster was also pretty good. Even if you can&amp;#x27;t get the video on 4 corners, the transcript is available.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.abc.net.au&amp;#x2F;4corners&amp;#x2F;stories&amp;#x2F;2015&amp;#x2F;04&amp;#x2F;20&amp;#x2F;4217741.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.abc.net.au&amp;#x2F;4corners&amp;#x2F;stories&amp;#x2F;2015&amp;#x2F;04&amp;#x2F;20&amp;#x2F;4217741.ht...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.smh.com.au&amp;#x2F;nsw&amp;#x2F;mymaster-essay-cheating-scandal-more-than-70-university-students-face-suspension-20150312-1425oe.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.smh.com.au&amp;#x2F;nsw&amp;#x2F;mymaster-essay-cheating-scandal-mo...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>An industry that helps Chinese cheat their way into and through US colleges</title><url>http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/college-cheating-iowa/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>corv</author><text>Having also spent time at a Chinese university and seen rampant cheating of Chinese students in my home country I must respectfully disagree with you.&lt;p&gt;Currently there is a major lack of ethical behavior in mainland China. Hong Kong and Singapore are nothing like this.&lt;p&gt;I sincerely hope that China will become aware of the issue and be able to improve.</text><parent_chain><item><author>SolaceQuantum</author><text>&amp;gt; Chinese students cheat because cheating is part of Chinese culture. Go to China and you&amp;#x27;ll be shocked at how little people care about others in public, or society at large.&lt;p&gt;I am Chinese and I would respectfully disagree that cheating is some part of Chinese culture. The only  example you gave was basically the bystander effect in action, which you then ascribe to... cheating somehow? Moral depravity of millions of people?&lt;p&gt;Chinese callousness towards strangers is  shocking. Wait till you see what some us politicians have to say about foreigners!</text></item><item><author>Snargorf</author><text>Non-Chinese students also have those same problems, but they don&amp;#x27;t cheat like the Chinese.&lt;p&gt;Chinese students cheat because cheating is part of Chinese culture. Go to China and you&amp;#x27;ll be shocked at how little people care about others in public, or society at large.&lt;p&gt;This is a place where bystanders will watch cars swerve wildly around an open manhole cover over and over, nearly getting in accidents, doing nothing to help. When the Westerner comes by and closes the manhole cover, the Chinese are surprised. They&amp;#x27;d never consider doing anything like that, because - what&amp;#x27;s in it for them?&lt;p&gt;This is a country where people pay others to go to prison for them. If they clip a child with their car, they&amp;#x27;ll deliberately run over the child again and again to make sure he dies and doesn&amp;#x27;t create hospital bills.&lt;p&gt;I was never more staggered by rampant, blatant cheating, plagiarism or dishonesty than when I spent a semester studying in a university there. For someone raised in the West, Chinese callousness and dishonesty towards strangers is unbelievable until you experience it.</text></item><item><author>kirrent</author><text>Australia is also a popular destination for Chinese students and sees high rates of cheating for many of the same reasons as those given in the article. Poor language skills allowed by lax student visa requirements, isolation, and the high penalties for failing a course when your family is paying full price creates desperation.&lt;p&gt;4 corners did a pretty good story on it and the smh investigation into MyMaster was also pretty good. Even if you can&amp;#x27;t get the video on 4 corners, the transcript is available.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.abc.net.au&amp;#x2F;4corners&amp;#x2F;stories&amp;#x2F;2015&amp;#x2F;04&amp;#x2F;20&amp;#x2F;4217741.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.abc.net.au&amp;#x2F;4corners&amp;#x2F;stories&amp;#x2F;2015&amp;#x2F;04&amp;#x2F;20&amp;#x2F;4217741.ht...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.smh.com.au&amp;#x2F;nsw&amp;#x2F;mymaster-essay-cheating-scandal-more-than-70-university-students-face-suspension-20150312-1425oe.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.smh.com.au&amp;#x2F;nsw&amp;#x2F;mymaster-essay-cheating-scandal-mo...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>An industry that helps Chinese cheat their way into and through US colleges</title><url>http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/college-cheating-iowa/</url></story>