<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>yourapostasy</author><text>There are a slew of developers who tangled with XMPP and came away with very negative, well-founded reasons to dislike the protocol. Do you want XMPP because it is a standard, or you also have a contrary experience to these developers?&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;about.psyc.eu&amp;#x2F;Jabber#Technical_Issues_in_Jabber&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;about.psyc.eu&amp;#x2F;Jabber#Technical_Issues_in_Jabber&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[2] &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;josephg.com&amp;#x2F;blog&amp;#x2F;xmpp-in-wave-in-a-box&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;josephg.com&amp;#x2F;blog&amp;#x2F;xmpp-in-wave-in-a-box&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[3] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=2069810&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=2069810&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[4] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.reddit.com&amp;#x2F;comments&amp;#x2F;rvzdp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.reddit.com&amp;#x2F;comments&amp;#x2F;rvzdp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[5] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=10040302&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=10040302&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;For some balance, there are contrary opinions. This one seems to revolve around project governance.&lt;p&gt;[6] &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;about.psyc.eu&amp;#x2F;Jabber#Technical_Issues_in_Jabber&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;about.psyc.eu&amp;#x2F;Jabber#Technical_Issues_in_Jabber&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;And links [4] and [5] have a lot of people piping up saying they like XMPP just fine.&lt;p&gt;To be fair to XMPP, I strongly suspect it is a protocol trying to solve a very large, very messy problem space, and too many developers are trying to wrestle with it &amp;quot;raw&amp;quot; in its totality, unaware that for their specific problem domain, they only need a subset, and a specialized protocol&amp;#x2F;library that exposes only that subset to them. It&amp;#x27;s almost as if too few understand that XMPP is kind of the assembly language (or microcode?) of its problem domain, and most people need a $High_Level_Language_of_Choice instead.</text><parent_chain><item><author>finnn</author><text>&lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;getkaiwa.com&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;getkaiwa.com&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt; is another Slack alternative that uses an XMPP backend, which IMO is much better than a custom backend. So far the only open source Slack clone I&amp;#x27;ve seen that uses an existing standard for the backend</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Mattermost 1.0 released – open-source Slack alternative</title><url>http://www.mattermost.org/open-source-slack-alternative-reaches-1-0/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>joeyspn</author><text>&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;rocket.chat&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;rocket.chat&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt; built with Meteor and with WebRTC videocalls, is another great open source alternative... The list of current and upcoming features is quite impressive:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;RocketChat&amp;#x2F;Rocket.Chat#features&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;RocketChat&amp;#x2F;Rocket.Chat#features&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain><item><author>finnn</author><text>&lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;getkaiwa.com&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;getkaiwa.com&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt; is another Slack alternative that uses an XMPP backend, which IMO is much better than a custom backend. So far the only open source Slack clone I&amp;#x27;ve seen that uses an existing standard for the backend</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Mattermost 1.0 released – open-source Slack alternative</title><url>http://www.mattermost.org/open-source-slack-alternative-reaches-1-0/</url></story>