<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>freediver</author><text>Company founded in 2009 with $8bn in funding is called a startup!&lt;p&gt;So, is Google still a startup? When does a startup end being one?&lt;p&gt;What should I call my actual startup these days? A nano-startup? ;)</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>EV startup Rivian announces $2.5B funding round led by Amazon, Ford</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ev-startup-rivian-announces-25-bln-funding-round-led-by-amazon-ford-2021-07-23/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>cavisne</author><text>All without delivering a single retail car.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>EV startup Rivian announces $2.5B funding round led by Amazon, Ford</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ev-startup-rivian-announces-25-bln-funding-round-led-by-amazon-ford-2021-07-23/</url></story>