<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>oneplane</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t think anyone living in a country with reasonable public transport and uses it actually thinks that that is how it works.&lt;p&gt;I get the feeling that there might be a whole lot of &amp;quot;it sucks in my country so you probably have a bad experience too&amp;quot; replies here (not yours as it&amp;#x27;s quite a clear illustration of details people might miss), and I would almost immediately assume it&amp;#x27;ll be mostly people from the US who are car-bound for their transport needs.&lt;p&gt;The idea that you can life a nice and productive life and go places as you please without dring a car is very foreign to some people. Even the idea of switching it up and having some work commute by bike or bus seems like a &amp;#x27;poor people thing&amp;#x27; to some people. It&amp;#x27;s weird.</text><parent_chain><item><author>IMTDb</author><text>This is assuming that your trip starts and stops exactly next to the train station and that there is a non-delayed train available precisely at the right time. In practice that&amp;#x27;s not the case and those time add up &lt;i&gt;quickly&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;p&gt;Car trip will look like:&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;  1. Travel from start to location (3:20)
  2. Find parking (0:5)
  3. Walk from parking to location (0:10)
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
Total time of 3:35&lt;p&gt;Your train trip will look like:&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;  1. Go from start to train station (0:20)
  2. Wait for train (0:10)
  3. Train to Berlin (1:50)
  4. Train station to location (0:20)
  5. Wait at location because there was no better train (1:00)
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
Total time of 3:40.&lt;p&gt;It stil might be worth it to use the train, as you can work&amp;#x2F;read in the train which you can&amp;#x27;t do in a car.&lt;p&gt;But for the train to be working it needs planets to be aligned: start location must be within reasonable distance to train station; end location must be within reasonable distance to train station; train travel speed is significantly faster than cars; train schedule is aligned with desired arrival time. If &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; of these conditions are not met, the train option does not work</text></item><item><author>jstummbillig</author><text>&amp;gt; If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every village along the way.&lt;p&gt;Well, that is not exactly true now, is it. REs do actually skip the vast majority of &amp;quot;villages&amp;quot; and are far from being the slow ones, comparatively.&lt;p&gt;Anyway, for comparisons sake here is some Hamburg -&amp;gt; Berlin options:&lt;p&gt;- By car (with low traffic, according to GMaps): 3h20&lt;p&gt;- Regional Trains (the ones you can use with 9-eur-ticket): 4h10, including 1-3 train changes depending on connection&lt;p&gt;- All trains: 1h50 with no change&lt;p&gt;Given that going by car will be considerably more expensive than a regional ticket (even the none-9-eur version) I would say that +1h might be a reasonable trade-off for a lot of people.</text></item><item><author>MandieD</author><text>Very important caveat for all of you who are thinking, “woo hoo, no need to buy that EuRail pass! Or to buy an expensive ICE ticket!”&lt;p&gt;These tickets are good for all “Nah- und Regionalverkehr,” explicitly excluding ICE, IC, EC (international) and long-distance busses (like the one between Munich and Zürich)&lt;p&gt;If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every village along the way.&lt;p&gt;This is for the benefit of people who live here and are struggling with 2 EUR&amp;#x2F;liter fuel, not the kind of people who blithely paid 60 EUR to take the ICE. There does not appear to be any residency requirement, but remember, you’re not the target market for this (unless you live here and are struggling with fuel prices…)</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>9-Euro-Ticket</title><url>https://www.bahn.com/en/offers/regional/9-euro-ticket-en</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>smlacy</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m not sure what &amp;quot;Wait at location because there was no better train&amp;quot; means?&lt;p&gt;Are you massuming a 3h40m trip for a specific time-based appointment?  I think the use case of this kind of train is more similar to a flight with one or more nights at destination, so that the specific arrival time is not that important.</text><parent_chain><item><author>IMTDb</author><text>This is assuming that your trip starts and stops exactly next to the train station and that there is a non-delayed train available precisely at the right time. In practice that&amp;#x27;s not the case and those time add up &lt;i&gt;quickly&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;p&gt;Car trip will look like:&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;  1. Travel from start to location (3:20)
  2. Find parking (0:5)
  3. Walk from parking to location (0:10)
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
Total time of 3:35&lt;p&gt;Your train trip will look like:&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;  1. Go from start to train station (0:20)
  2. Wait for train (0:10)
  3. Train to Berlin (1:50)
  4. Train station to location (0:20)
  5. Wait at location because there was no better train (1:00)
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
Total time of 3:40.&lt;p&gt;It stil might be worth it to use the train, as you can work&amp;#x2F;read in the train which you can&amp;#x27;t do in a car.&lt;p&gt;But for the train to be working it needs planets to be aligned: start location must be within reasonable distance to train station; end location must be within reasonable distance to train station; train travel speed is significantly faster than cars; train schedule is aligned with desired arrival time. If &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; of these conditions are not met, the train option does not work</text></item><item><author>jstummbillig</author><text>&amp;gt; If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every village along the way.&lt;p&gt;Well, that is not exactly true now, is it. REs do actually skip the vast majority of &amp;quot;villages&amp;quot; and are far from being the slow ones, comparatively.&lt;p&gt;Anyway, for comparisons sake here is some Hamburg -&amp;gt; Berlin options:&lt;p&gt;- By car (with low traffic, according to GMaps): 3h20&lt;p&gt;- Regional Trains (the ones you can use with 9-eur-ticket): 4h10, including 1-3 train changes depending on connection&lt;p&gt;- All trains: 1h50 with no change&lt;p&gt;Given that going by car will be considerably more expensive than a regional ticket (even the none-9-eur version) I would say that +1h might be a reasonable trade-off for a lot of people.</text></item><item><author>MandieD</author><text>Very important caveat for all of you who are thinking, “woo hoo, no need to buy that EuRail pass! Or to buy an expensive ICE ticket!”&lt;p&gt;These tickets are good for all “Nah- und Regionalverkehr,” explicitly excluding ICE, IC, EC (international) and long-distance busses (like the one between Munich and Zürich)&lt;p&gt;If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every village along the way.&lt;p&gt;This is for the benefit of people who live here and are struggling with 2 EUR&amp;#x2F;liter fuel, not the kind of people who blithely paid 60 EUR to take the ICE. There does not appear to be any residency requirement, but remember, you’re not the target market for this (unless you live here and are struggling with fuel prices…)</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>9-Euro-Ticket</title><url>https://www.bahn.com/en/offers/regional/9-euro-ticket-en</url></story>