<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>equalarrow</author><text>&amp;#62; I&apos;m totally on board with apple not owning rounded rectangles..&lt;p&gt;This isn&apos;t a question about Apple owning rounded rectangles - unless they happen to be phones and tablets. This rounded rectangle thing has gotten a little out of hand. It&apos;s easy to see why Samsung has framed it in this manner; because, of course, Apple couldn&apos;t &apos;own a rectangle with rounded corners&apos;, how absurd! Does that mean Apple owns tv remote controls, or keyboards or all the other rectangles with rounded corners on them?!&lt;p&gt;But that&apos;s a false argument and analogy. Apple is not going after keyboards, tv remotes, etc. They are going after Samsung&apos;s copied phones and tablets. It&apos;s that simple and to dream up analogies is to try to derail the real issue.&lt;p&gt;However, if some still feel that Samsung is an inventive company that would never outright steal any ideas, all you have to do is look at some of these examples:&lt;p&gt;App store icons:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://obamapacman.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Samsung-Mobile-Italy-store-copies-Apple-App-Store-Safari-Icons-Euronics-Centro-Sicilia-580x433.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://obamapacman.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Samsung-Mo...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Black iphone cables:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://cdn.mactrast.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Samsung-Apple-Cable-Copy.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cdn.mactrast.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Samsung-A...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Black iphone square charger:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://site.accessorygeeks.com/yswimages/samsung-micro-usb-data-cable-travel-adapter-etaou80jbe-blk.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://site.accessorygeeks.com/yswimages/samsung-micro-usb-d...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;These are just a few things but it&apos;s pretty clear that Samsung has no problem just copying outright. I don&apos;t think they&apos;re going to win this trial and I don&apos;t think Apple is going to own all black rectangles.</text><parent_chain><item><author>Tloewald</author><text>&quot;The &apos;invention&apos; of the GUI was a very long process, which, in my view, started with Ivan Sutherland&apos;s Sketchpad (1st generation GUI), and ended with the work done at Xerox (3rd generation GUI).&quot;&lt;p&gt;The article loses credibility when it suggests that the invention of the GUI stops at Xerox, when Apple invented (among many other things) drag and drop, overlapping windows, a practical mouse (that could track diagonally, didn&apos;t break down, and did more with one button than xerox did with three).&lt;p&gt;But what would I know?&lt;p&gt;&quot;The Macintosh was the first computer worth criticizing.&quot; Alan Kay&lt;p&gt;I&apos;m totally on board with apple not owning rounded rectangles, but Samsung&apos;s copying of Apple has extended to literally using Apple&apos;s UI graphics in store displays.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Samsung reveals its pre-iPhone concepts: 10 touchscreen devices</title><url>http://www.osnews.com/story/26230/Samsung_reveals_its_pre-iPhone_concepts_10_touchscreen</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>Symmetry</author><text>Xerox actually wasn&apos;t limited to non-overlapping windows, the Xerox Alto which was demoed to Apple had them, it was only the Xerox Star that was sold outside the company that couldn&apos;t manage those.</text><parent_chain><item><author>Tloewald</author><text>&quot;The &apos;invention&apos; of the GUI was a very long process, which, in my view, started with Ivan Sutherland&apos;s Sketchpad (1st generation GUI), and ended with the work done at Xerox (3rd generation GUI).&quot;&lt;p&gt;The article loses credibility when it suggests that the invention of the GUI stops at Xerox, when Apple invented (among many other things) drag and drop, overlapping windows, a practical mouse (that could track diagonally, didn&apos;t break down, and did more with one button than xerox did with three).&lt;p&gt;But what would I know?&lt;p&gt;&quot;The Macintosh was the first computer worth criticizing.&quot; Alan Kay&lt;p&gt;I&apos;m totally on board with apple not owning rounded rectangles, but Samsung&apos;s copying of Apple has extended to literally using Apple&apos;s UI graphics in store displays.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Samsung reveals its pre-iPhone concepts: 10 touchscreen devices</title><url>http://www.osnews.com/story/26230/Samsung_reveals_its_pre-iPhone_concepts_10_touchscreen</url></story>