<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>apalmer</author><text>This to me is what killed delivery as a service. It doesn’t work even when they are charging what works out to  be double the salary the restaurant pays its own delivery people. And it works out for no one, restaurant, driver, even the delivery as a service providers since they are all hemorrhaging money.&lt;p&gt;It’s a fake industry held up by VC money.</text><parent_chain><item><author>krisroadruck</author><text>You also pay way less. DoorDash and all the others don&amp;#x27;t just charge the fees and the tips and what not, they also inflate the food cost by a pretty hefty amount. A simple example:&lt;p&gt;McDonalds has a 2 for $2 deal on sausage mcmuffins &amp;amp; hashbrowns - been around forever. Let&amp;#x27;s say you and the wife want a McMuffin &amp;amp; a hashbrown each - you&amp;#x27;re in for $4 dollars and a bit of change for tax.&lt;p&gt;Here is the same meal via DoorDash:&lt;p&gt;McMuffins: $2.87ea
Hash browns: $1.91ea&lt;p&gt;Subtotal: $9.56 (just below the 10 dollar minimum to wave the fee if you have DD+)&lt;p&gt;Delivery fee: $1.99
Service fee: $3.00
Tax: $0.91
Dasher Tip: $5 (good luck getting your order on time if you tip less than this)&lt;p&gt;Grand Total: $20.46 for $4 of food.&lt;p&gt;You can &amp;quot;optimize&amp;quot; by ordering an additional hash brown to get over the $10 hump so you can wave the delivery fee and reduce the service fee - which will instead cost you a total of $17.91 for $5 worth of food. Either way it&amp;#x27;s a shit deal. Not included here are the costs associated with 1 in every 4-5 orders being incorrect, or delivered to the wrong house and the hassle that adds to your life.&lt;p&gt;Obviously I went with low cost items to illustrate a point but often any food prices you see on DD are a good 50% markup vs going in person regardless of the restaurant before you even get into fees and tips.</text></item><item><author>kache_</author><text>I started boycotting food delivery services because the quality &amp;amp; service was just god awful. I found that if I drive, I actually don&amp;#x27;t spend that much time, and I get wayyyy better service.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>DoorDash and pizza arbitrage (2020)</title><url>https://www.readmargins.com/p/doordash-and-pizza-arbitrage</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>scarface_74</author><text>But guess how much money I can save by not having a car?</text><parent_chain><item><author>krisroadruck</author><text>You also pay way less. DoorDash and all the others don&amp;#x27;t just charge the fees and the tips and what not, they also inflate the food cost by a pretty hefty amount. A simple example:&lt;p&gt;McDonalds has a 2 for $2 deal on sausage mcmuffins &amp;amp; hashbrowns - been around forever. Let&amp;#x27;s say you and the wife want a McMuffin &amp;amp; a hashbrown each - you&amp;#x27;re in for $4 dollars and a bit of change for tax.&lt;p&gt;Here is the same meal via DoorDash:&lt;p&gt;McMuffins: $2.87ea
Hash browns: $1.91ea&lt;p&gt;Subtotal: $9.56 (just below the 10 dollar minimum to wave the fee if you have DD+)&lt;p&gt;Delivery fee: $1.99
Service fee: $3.00
Tax: $0.91
Dasher Tip: $5 (good luck getting your order on time if you tip less than this)&lt;p&gt;Grand Total: $20.46 for $4 of food.&lt;p&gt;You can &amp;quot;optimize&amp;quot; by ordering an additional hash brown to get over the $10 hump so you can wave the delivery fee and reduce the service fee - which will instead cost you a total of $17.91 for $5 worth of food. Either way it&amp;#x27;s a shit deal. Not included here are the costs associated with 1 in every 4-5 orders being incorrect, or delivered to the wrong house and the hassle that adds to your life.&lt;p&gt;Obviously I went with low cost items to illustrate a point but often any food prices you see on DD are a good 50% markup vs going in person regardless of the restaurant before you even get into fees and tips.</text></item><item><author>kache_</author><text>I started boycotting food delivery services because the quality &amp;amp; service was just god awful. I found that if I drive, I actually don&amp;#x27;t spend that much time, and I get wayyyy better service.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>DoorDash and pizza arbitrage (2020)</title><url>https://www.readmargins.com/p/doordash-and-pizza-arbitrage</url></story>