<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>11thEarlOfMar</author><text>In order for this to work, we need to understand why the US and Japan are behind Taiwan in this technology in the first place. For TSMC, as a foundry, their value is maximized by their ability to fabricate devices that semiconductor design companies cannot fabricate themselves.&lt;p&gt;Intel and Toshiba apparently don&amp;#x27;t see cutting edge device scale as a differentiator and so far haven&amp;#x27;t invested (enough) in matching TSMC in that arena.&lt;p&gt;There is very little chance, IMHO, that establishing and funding an independent organization to pursue 2nm will yield the desired results. Providing funding &lt;i&gt;tranched on a results basis&lt;/i&gt; to existing firms stands a much better chance, provided that they are permitted to pursue 2 nm fabrication without sharing what they&amp;#x27;ve learned, so they gain the benefit of the effort. If that were the approach, I don&amp;#x27;t see why the US and Japan need to collaborate at all.&lt;p&gt;Seems more like narrative-supporting publicity than anything else. Ugh.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Japan, U.S. to launch R&amp;D for 2-nm chip mass production</title><url>https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Tech/Semiconductors/Japan-U.S.-to-launch-R-D-for-2-nm-chip-mass-production</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>guardiangod</author><text>From my experience, no offense, when you pool together a bunch of also-ran teams together to catch up to the industry leader, you&amp;#x27;d just get a larger also-ran team.&lt;p&gt;I also have reservations on whether the academia can surpass the speed of commercial R&amp;amp;D teams on semiconductor tech. I will believe it when I see it.</text><parent_chain></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Japan, U.S. to launch R&amp;D for 2-nm chip mass production</title><url>https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Tech/Semiconductors/Japan-U.S.-to-launch-R-D-for-2-nm-chip-mass-production</url></story>