<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>utopcell</author><text>You can&amp;#x27;t help but be entertained by the amount of plagiarism that exists. A while back I found out that one of my papers [1] was being sold as a final year thesis via ..a video ad on YouTube [2].&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ieeexplore.ieee.org&amp;#x2F;abstract&amp;#x2F;document&amp;#x2F;6746236&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ieeexplore.ieee.org&amp;#x2F;abstract&amp;#x2F;document&amp;#x2F;6746236&lt;/a&gt;
[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=MFNFScqN47o&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=MFNFScqN47o&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain><item><author>jll29</author><text>One way forward could be to lower the bar for publications.&lt;p&gt;Once it&amp;#x27;s no longer about being in the esteemed and scarce &amp;quot;10%&amp;quot;, they won&amp;#x27;t bother because they don&amp;#x27;t need to. Imagine a process where the only criteria are technical soundness and novelty, and as long as minimal standards are met, it&amp;#x27;s a &amp;quot;go&amp;quot;. Call it the &amp;quot;ArXiv + quality check&amp;quot; model.&lt;p&gt;Neither formal acceptance to publish nor citation numbers truly mark scientific excellence; perhaps, winning a &amp;quot;test of time award&amp;quot; does, or appearing in a text book 10 years later.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve been reviewing occasionally since ~1995, regularly since ~2004, and I&amp;#x27;ve never heard of collusion rings happening in my sub-area of CS (ML, IR, NLP). I have caught people submitting to multiple conferences without disclosing it. Ignoring past work that is relevant is common, more often our of blissful ignorance, and occasionally likely with full intent. I&amp;#x27;m not saying I doubt the report, but I suspect the bigger problem that CS has is a large percentage of poor-quality work that couldn&amp;#x27;t be replicated.&lt;p&gt;BTW, the most blantant thing I&amp;#x27;ve heard of (from a contact complaining about it on LinkedIn) is someone had their very own core paper from their PhD thesis plagiarised - submitted to another conference (again) but with different author names on it... and they even cited the real author&amp;#x27;s PhD thesis!</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Collusion rings threaten the integrity of computer science research</title><url>https://m-cacm.acm.org/magazines/2021/6/252840-collusion-rings-threaten-the-integrity-of-computer-science-research/fulltext</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>jhrmnn</author><text>That’s how it used to be. The reason behind the shift is the rapid increase in the amount of research output in the past decades. The reason that “arXiv + quality check” won’t work is that the amount of research funding and permanent positions (related) did not increase accordingly. (Think of all the people producing science for low wages as Phds and postdocs and then quitting.) Right now the burden of the (unfair?) selection is mostly on the publishers and their prestigious journals&amp;#x2F;conferences, which then funding agencies&amp;#x2F;institutions take into account when funding research&amp;#x2F;hiring people. If we switch “arXiv + quality check”, that burden will just move to the funding agencies&amp;#x2F;institutions, but it won’t solve the underlying fundamental problem.</text><parent_chain><item><author>jll29</author><text>One way forward could be to lower the bar for publications.&lt;p&gt;Once it&amp;#x27;s no longer about being in the esteemed and scarce &amp;quot;10%&amp;quot;, they won&amp;#x27;t bother because they don&amp;#x27;t need to. Imagine a process where the only criteria are technical soundness and novelty, and as long as minimal standards are met, it&amp;#x27;s a &amp;quot;go&amp;quot;. Call it the &amp;quot;ArXiv + quality check&amp;quot; model.&lt;p&gt;Neither formal acceptance to publish nor citation numbers truly mark scientific excellence; perhaps, winning a &amp;quot;test of time award&amp;quot; does, or appearing in a text book 10 years later.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve been reviewing occasionally since ~1995, regularly since ~2004, and I&amp;#x27;ve never heard of collusion rings happening in my sub-area of CS (ML, IR, NLP). I have caught people submitting to multiple conferences without disclosing it. Ignoring past work that is relevant is common, more often our of blissful ignorance, and occasionally likely with full intent. I&amp;#x27;m not saying I doubt the report, but I suspect the bigger problem that CS has is a large percentage of poor-quality work that couldn&amp;#x27;t be replicated.&lt;p&gt;BTW, the most blantant thing I&amp;#x27;ve heard of (from a contact complaining about it on LinkedIn) is someone had their very own core paper from their PhD thesis plagiarised - submitted to another conference (again) but with different author names on it... and they even cited the real author&amp;#x27;s PhD thesis!</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>Collusion rings threaten the integrity of computer science research</title><url>https://m-cacm.acm.org/magazines/2021/6/252840-collusion-rings-threaten-the-integrity-of-computer-science-research/fulltext</url></story>