<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>npunt</author><text>Agree, sending kids to school in the dark is a pretty weak &amp;#x27;think of the children&amp;#x27; argument. If we REALLY cared about children, we&amp;#x27;d start school later as numerous studies show a later start is better for learning and health. See the CDC&amp;#x27;s guidelines for optimal school start times, which is 8:30am or later: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;features&amp;#x2F;school-start-times&amp;#x2F;index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;features&amp;#x2F;school-start-times&amp;#x2F;index.html&lt;/a&gt;</text><parent_chain><item><author>singingboyo</author><text>From [1], which is much better and more on-point, if still short: &amp;quot;Opponents of the proposition argue [...] the sun wouldn’t rise until 8 a.m. during some winter months, forcing children to walk to school or buses in darkness&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Maybe school shouldn&amp;#x27;t start so early then? Starting at 8:30-9 would reduce a lot of that, though not all of it. Also, as a Canadian and Vancouverite... so what? Darkness is a fact of life, get over it.&lt;p&gt;[1]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;sacramento.cbslocal.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;11&amp;#x2F;06&amp;#x2F;proposition-7-passes-daylight-saving-time&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;sacramento.cbslocal.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;11&amp;#x2F;06&amp;#x2F;proposition-7-pas...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>In Tuesday&apos;s Vote, California Opts for Year-Round Daylight Saving</title><url>https://gizmodo.com/in-tuesdays-absolute-worst-vote-california-opts-for-yea-1830275687</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>Impossible</author><text>Overall it would be better for the students and it fixes safety concerns, which I agree is a weak argument but &amp;#x27;for the children&amp;#x27; is always a great political card to play.  The issue is I don&amp;#x27;t think making the school day start later will ever get support from teachers, so it won&amp;#x27;t be considered for most school districts even if its better for the students.</text><parent_chain><item><author>singingboyo</author><text>From [1], which is much better and more on-point, if still short: &amp;quot;Opponents of the proposition argue [...] the sun wouldn’t rise until 8 a.m. during some winter months, forcing children to walk to school or buses in darkness&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Maybe school shouldn&amp;#x27;t start so early then? Starting at 8:30-9 would reduce a lot of that, though not all of it. Also, as a Canadian and Vancouverite... so what? Darkness is a fact of life, get over it.&lt;p&gt;[1]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;sacramento.cbslocal.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;11&amp;#x2F;06&amp;#x2F;proposition-7-passes-daylight-saving-time&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;sacramento.cbslocal.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;11&amp;#x2F;06&amp;#x2F;proposition-7-pas...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>In Tuesday&apos;s Vote, California Opts for Year-Round Daylight Saving</title><url>https://gizmodo.com/in-tuesdays-absolute-worst-vote-california-opts-for-yea-1830275687</url></story>