<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>404mm</author><text>Vizio makes (or used to make) those as well. I have one of their 4k 70” without tuner (in the US). It does not suck any less.
Disclaimer: I received it as a “equal replacement” by squaretrade for broken Sharp 70”</text><parent_chain><item><author>andix</author><text>TVs without a tuner are quite popular in Austria. You save around 30€ per month on payments to public TV stations, if your TV is just a monitor and has no tuner.&lt;p&gt;You can get for example one of those (german, but you probably can read the specs anyway):&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;nogis.at&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;nogis.at&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.gisbefreit.at&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.gisbefreit.at&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Most devices are not high end though.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>It’s Still Stupidly, Difficult to Buy a ‘Dumb’ TV</title><url>https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/14/its-still-stupidly-ridiculously-difficult-to-buy-a-dumb-tv/</url></story>
<instructions>Your goal is to analyze the following comment and estimate how highly it will be upvoted by the Hacker News community.</instructions><comment><author>woldenron</author><text>Do you perhaps know how does it work in Germany? I heard you have to pay the TV tax regardless if you have a TV or not.</text><parent_chain><item><author>andix</author><text>TVs without a tuner are quite popular in Austria. You save around 30€ per month on payments to public TV stations, if your TV is just a monitor and has no tuner.&lt;p&gt;You can get for example one of those (german, but you probably can read the specs anyway):&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;nogis.at&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;nogis.at&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.gisbefreit.at&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.gisbefreit.at&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Most devices are not high end though.</text></item></parent_chain></comment><story><title>It’s Still Stupidly, Difficult to Buy a ‘Dumb’ TV</title><url>https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/14/its-still-stupidly-ridiculously-difficult-to-buy-a-dumb-tv/</url></story>