   neutral   There is another group of people who loudly call themselves hackers, but they aren't. They break into computers and break the phone system. Real hackers call these people crackers, and want nothing to do with them.     neutral   So they are two totally different concepts.  
    neutral   Well, the real hackers mostly think crackers are lazy, irresponsible and not very bright, and feel that being able to break security does make you a hacker any more than being able to start cars without keys makes you an automotive engineer. Unfortunately, many journalists and writers have been fooled into using the word hacker to describe crackers. This irritates real hackers to no end.     neutral   I see. Then the basic different is, hackers build things, crackers break them.  
    neutral   You got it.     happiness   
 Thank you, Steven. 
 That seems simple enough.   disgust  But maybe there isn't such thing