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[ { "content": "well as much as i'd uh i'd like to say that i'll be looking for a flashy convertible or a or a four by four or something i guess the next car i'll be looking for is a kind of a plain old four door [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] what kind of car do you have now", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh we've got a uh an older Delta Eighty Eight and then uh our our newer car is a uh a Corsica and uh we'll probably be looking for something about that uh that same style that same kind of four door hard top style and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah you got kids", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh no but we're planning for it so uh in fact uh our Oldsmobile is a is a like an old Delta Eighty Eight but it's in pretty good sh[ape]- it's in really good shape and we've been really pleased with Oldsmobiles that's probably where the first place we'd look", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay yeah yeah huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well we've always had uh Fords uh mostly because my wife's stepfather works at a [laughter-Ford] dealership", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh that'll do it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah that'll do it um but yeah we're we're in the same shape i think our next car will be a you know some big old four door uh something that can haul the kids to baseball practice and piano lessons and we've got a minivan", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yep uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and that's great and i d[rive]- i drive uh well i used to drive an Escort but it died on me so i i mean i- i- i used to run it i uh where we used to live i used to commute a hundred and forty miles a day", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] oh jeez", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh and this Escort took it all and its it it got up to uh uh i was at ninety four thousand miles on it and the engine just went", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i- i b[ought]- i bought a used um Dodge Aries", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "which has been okay i- i mean i haven't had it that long but it it'll it's an eighty five Aries but it only had thirty four thousand miles on it when i bought it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really um-hum oh jeez", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i just you know i just drive it to work so it's just a ten minute commute everyday", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so um [laughter-it] doesn't get much of uh i mean it's not like i'm putting it through its paces but i think uh and it's a four door which is nice but it's still a little cramped i've got three kids", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah um-hum yeah yeah sounds like you you need at least like a Taurus size or something like that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i- i yeah that's what i was thinking of was a Taurus um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i- i kn[ow]- i know a lot of the guys at work they uh the ones that have uh families uh and they still want kind of a sports car they've been uh a lot of them_1 been getting these uh Taurus SHOs that i guess it's the sport version of the Taurus in fact it comes with a standard stick and uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh really yeah ooh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and a lot of those it comes with a bigger engine and the things like that but uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and usually they're in like black and gun metal grey and and those kind of colors you're not gonna see too many uh you know green ones or blue ones or anything like that they they put them_1 in sporty colors i guess but uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah yeah well my wife wants a Miata", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh well sure [laughter] that's what you know until till you look at the price tag and then you go what what would i r[eally]- besides tooling around and looking really cool and having a lot of fun what would i really do with this car if it what", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] right right yeah i know i know it's like i- i guess i could fit in it [laughter] maybe", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " yeah i i went i went through that when i first got out of uh college i had an old car that i bought just to get to to my j[ob]- my first job", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and when i got there the first thing i did was trade it in on a Spitfire and i- i knew that was gonna be the only time i could afford a two seater uh sports car", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but that that just does not make it as an only car it's uh it's like i b[ought]- i would i bought a set of stereo speakers", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it was one of those cash and carry deals and i had to take them_1 one at a time with the top down", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it was winter so i was like in this coat with the top down and the speaker in the passenger seat", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh no [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i drove that one home and then i went back and got the other one and put that in the passenger seat and drove that one home", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh funny funniest sight and you kind of outgrow that real quick when it's your only car", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah well i you know it's funny most people that i've talked to did stuff like that when they were in college or you know or when they were single anyway they'd they'd buy themselves a sporty car because it was their la[st]- i never did that uh you know my first car was a Toyota Corolla", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah oh really", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh because i got a good deal on it and uh that was a great little car actually", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i met that's how i met girls was i'd find out if a girl could drive a manual transmission which i i'd never i i'd learned on an automatic transmission and so so i'd go out on dates where they would teach me how to drive this car", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh boy that's a good deal", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh in fact i married one of those [laughter-people] and it worked yeah it worked all right real good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "ah okay well i'll have to remember that if i ever get in that [laughter-situation] [laughter-again] huh because_1 i- i know we've uh that's that's something that that we definitely have to go with is an automatic transmission my um my wife just does can't can't can't uh she doesn't really wanna learn i guess the uh the standard shift in fact i- i remember once we uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we uh went uh went on a uh test drive we got one of these things from Lee Iacocca that said you know i'll give you a fifty dollar savings bond if you'll test drive a car and we went uh we went uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we went to a dealership and uh i[t]- it was it was pretty sh[e]- she did pretty well but it was one of these things where we just went to a big parking lot and the uh dealer kind of gave her standard shift parking because_1 that's all it was it was it was the funniest thing it was like a", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a big Le Bar[on]- i[t]- was a Le Baron with everything on it but it had a standard shift it was the craziest thing i ever saw and and and that's probably why they were trying to sell them_1 i guess", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wow that's weird yeah huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh we just kind of went back and forth and back and forth she did pretty well after a while but uh it's it's kind of hard to learn i guess", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well my wife i mean she'd always driven standard transmission and uh an[d]- and in fact all our earlier cars were s[tandard]- a standard transmission in fact the minivan's a has a stick shift", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum okay_1", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and in f[act]- this Dodge Aries is the first car we've ever gotten that had anything you know it's got automatic transmission cruise control you know electric locks you know it's like it's like a luxury car except that it's the Dodge [laughter-Aries] [laughter-you] [laughter-know] so uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh jeez yeah yeah what the oh well well i guess that i guess that's about all i got to say [laughter-about] cars", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] well [vocalized-noise] um the the thing about this uh the i will say this about the minivan", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we thought that was a luxury car when we bought it it it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh i would think so yeah because_1 it's so big", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and and it was quiet it had a stereo system we never had it you know we always had the AM radio and uh cour[se]- this had stick shift it had s[peakers]- speakers that you can control from the backseat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah sure sure um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and you can change the channels on the on the radio from the backseat too and put s[peaker]- speaker phones in it so uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh now now now that used to be a luxury but i bet on the next time you buy a car that's gonna be mandatory [vocalized-noise] you've got to have that now you're used to it and you got to have it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right that's right that's right and you got to pay for it too and i bet and i bet it costs twice as much as as when i bought mine [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's [laughter-true] [laughter-too] it [laughter] probably does it probably does but uh oh well well Bill it's been nice talking to you okay you have a good evening um-hum bye-bye", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we[ll]- nice talking to you thanks a lot bye bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "okay Art you say you own a TI or you own a uh an IBM compatible", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh yeah i have one of these little Zenith laptops which uh the uh everybody here at school has to buy one", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh you're in school", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah i'm a student uh at at Harvard Business School", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh tremendously useful thing it's uh the the portability and the compactness of it are uh pretty nice it's uh you know enough that you can kind of throw it in a briefcase or uh slap it over your shoulder and carry it around", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "wha[t]- what do you use to to download into the system can you p[ut]- hook up a a floppy to it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh it's got an internal three and a half inch floppy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh it's built in", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and uh it also has a forty megabyte hard drive built in", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that's pretty good um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh you know the batteries carry it for at least four or five hours", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so you know i use it um both in school to do uh spreadsheet analysis for various uh businesses that we're studying and also uh you know it hooks up to normal printers and what have you and uh works pretty well in that mode as well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm i'm curious what you use your uh your home computer for", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh i do i do uh word processing on it primarily uh the main reason why i'm i'm hanging on to it is because of the business that i'm in the the home computer business i have a", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a store in my house where i've got the uh the hardware and the software and i also do repair work on the system if if i started using a different computer at home then i wouldn't be using the the software and the hardware and it would be that much more difficult for me to try and market it the the product", "role": "user" }, { "content": "does it does it cause a problem for you to use a different computer at work than you use at home", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh oddly enough no uh because i do different things with it at home i i do mostly play and at work i do mostly work uh it's [laughter] you know you you you can put a game on an IBM compatible computer uh but uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know i i don't normally do that at at work uh and i i typically deal with uh Lotus uh WordPerfect which is a spreadsheet", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh we also have a tie in to a mainframe out in in Dallas Texas", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and the mainframe has a lot of uh software out there where i use to interface my computer with", "role": "user" }, { "content": "are are you at the point where the the mainframe appears slow to you relative to your personal computer given the the ratio", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no um there was at one point in time where where it was continually down it it appears at though whenever i wanted to use it it wasn't working and this was about", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "seven ten years ago", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and they made a dramatic effort of trying to reduce down time down to nothing and today uh i can't say that i can remember the last time it went down uh several months it's it's just up all the time now they take it down like on Sunday nights like for a couple of hours to do maintenance or whatever but uh unless there's something dramatic that happens with the telephone system uh usually doesn't break down and i think what they're doing is they're using satellite somehow", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to uh to transmit the signals to have a backup some to back that that system up so that there is no no down time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum you you don't think that they went and did a uh what is it an Ishihara uh quality analysis", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "analysis [laughter] i don't i don't know how they fixed the problem but they're uh you know the whole theme of of what they were doing was was to measure and record and and uh reduce down time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and the other big thing is uh quality satisfaction or customer satisfaction", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "how do how do the users feel about the the system and what are their likes and dislikes and that's that's uh that's where they they were heading and uh the system is fantastic so it's it's not slow if anything the the PC is now slower than the mainframe", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] we're transmitting from from uh New England to Dallas Texas and i'm getting responses in in split seconds", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's tremendous are are your computers at work net uh networked at all or is that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah oh well that that's another system that i link in to i i network internally to Texas Instruments in Attleboro", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and use the mainframe for corporation uh type programs like payroll and uh financial data bases and we also have uh uh a message system which is a worldwide network within within the corporation", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "where i can send telegrams to any TI site and they've also hooked up to some company to allow us to do E-mail and allow it to convert it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to other companies so that th[e]- other companies can recognize our E-mail and now we're getting into faxes as well right off the PC", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's tremendous", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's uh the technology is really [laughter] really blow you know going going crazy with this", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's clearly a uh a uh productivity enhancement uh device and allows you to do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh originally i didn't think it was i thought that what ended you know we ended up doing was uh doing all of the secretarial work and the secretaries had nothing to do uh and and that i guess part of that is true [laughter] uh i do all my own typing i i i don't give anymore uh paper to the secretary to type up only because it takes me longer to write it and redo it and then give it back to her again than it does for me to sit down and and do it and correct it myself i i i am not a typist i type with two fingers but i do very well at it and uh i i do everything i do my only typing do my own foils uh it's just you know it's just so much easier for me to do that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that that's been my experience also i've actually i guess i've been doing that since probably when i was in high school", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "many years ago and uh uh it it it's gotten to the point now i think where the uh secretaries are are finding other jobs to do because you know the typing and to some extent the filing is just not there anymore", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "big paper files are disappearing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the the files may be disappearing but the secretaries are not the the people people in power are are afraid to give up that status symbol", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh although what they're doing now is is they're maintaining secretaries but they're piling more and more people onto that one secretary rather than get rid of the secretary [laughter] they're they're just you know they're finding justification by adding more people to her", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i guess there's there's a fear that one day if the computers ever stopped working there'd be a bunch of people staring at the typewriter with no idea what to do with it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i don't know like back in in my particular office there must be at least uh twenty twenty five people one secretary no typewriter it's all computers everybody's got a a PC sitting in front of their desk ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh do you uh if if i assume you all are networked to a a variety of of laser printers", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh uh i i have a laser printer i have access to a laser printer in my office but i don't have one tied in to my system yet uh i'm i'm networked into it but it's so inconvenient for me to to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to run all the way downstairs that [laughter] that i don't use it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh because what i was what i was going to ask you is it seems like the next big jump will come with color printing you were talking about doing your own presentation and foils it would seem that color capability would be the next big sort of leap in presentation", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well i think what i see is a different direction i don't know if you are you familiar with uh programs like Harvard Graphics where they have uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh like a print shop or or a thing in the system well we have uh instead of using view view foil machines we have uh a transmitter that will pick up the signal from the the monitor", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and and transmit it just like a view foil", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so we we do that somewhat uh we also have uh teleconferencing where we have", "role": "user" }, { "content": "a", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um the the mainframe as being the monitor in other words if you've got foils you pull it out of the mainframe and then use the telephone speaker system to communicate with", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wow", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and and we use uh we do teleconferencing that way so that that everybody's looking at the same foil because we're pulling it off the network", "role": "user" }, { "content": "interesting yeah that's uh that's uh pretty powerful set of tools to give to people who traditionally have had to go through a whole production process just to get the [vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah i can remember at one time the the uh secretaries actually had to be artists and [laughter] and technicians and today uh with the laser printer they're uh really not being utilized as much as they had been in the past i'm making some really pretty foils that uh four or five years ago i wouldn't have ever dreamed i could be doing them and it's it's so easy to do uh with the with the programs that are out there now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh well uh Frank i think i kind of need to get back to some other things so i i hope we've talked uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "all right okay i believe we have", "role": "user" }, { "content": "covered enough of of this for for what this is all about", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay nice talking to you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it was a pleasure", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "take it easy", "role": "user" }, { "content": "thank you bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": " okay who do you like [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "ok[ay]- [laughter] what kind do i like i like just about any kind except country and western", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that same with me same with me", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it it's course country and western even i've gotten a little bit used to because it's not like it used to be", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " uh-huh like Clint Black he's pretty good and who's the other big guy", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well in Oklahoma we say Garth Brooks [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "Garth Brooks yeah that yeah that's the other guy i was thinking of was Garth Brooks yeah fact i think both of them have performed here and Kenny Rogers he's kind of country western verge you know on the verge of country western", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right course Garth Brooks lives about uh you know his his home town is about uh fifteen minutes away", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh wonderful", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so he is he's a home boy [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well then of course you like him that's great so well i have teenage children and so you know i'm hear the the rock music not the hard rock but the you know Michael Bolton type stuff he he's my personal favorite", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh my son is uh twenty eight so but he he's real unusual in that uh he likes a little bit of every kind he likes jazz", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that's good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh blues and and course the rock", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i i can't say he's real crazy about elevator music as he calls it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no no what i don't i don't th[ink]- actually we don't listen to any elevator music at my house but i've got teenagers so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well my teenagers are all gone i can listen to any [laughter-music] [laughter-i] [laughter-want] [laughter-to]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's good i actually when i'm home alone which isn't too often but uh our public radio station has wonderful classical music it's just very wonderful soothing and you know uh a lot of symphonies and i just i love that that's probably my all time favorite", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know uh i i teach", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and we can have music in the classroom but it you know it can't be the rock or anything like that and i i find that the classical music is very good for the kids too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it doesn't disturb them_1 and yet it it's it stimulates them_1 an[d]- and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right relax yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what do you teach what grade", "role": "user" }, { "content": " well it's ninth nine through twelve", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "good for you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and well it's uh business technology", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a certain subject good for you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i was just sitting here while she was trying to find a a another caller uh i was reading my [vocalized-noise] my husband and i are taking a computer class at our junior college [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": " oh boy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it's pretty good it's just a real basic class but we're learning a lot and we have a home computer so it's it's very interesting", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh yeah i'd learn it too uh back to i guess we'd better get back to music though [laughter] i uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah the subject of music [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "do you play any instruments", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i play i play piano i took lessons for thirteen years and right now my nine year old is taking piano and i just got a whole mess of music i i play the volunteered to play the piano at the children's Christmas program for the whole grade school which is K through six", "role": "user" }, { "content": "ooh you took on a good job", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "five hundred kids [laughter] i did it last year and and um i s[ub]- i just sub at the school i don't wanna work full time so i just sub at the school and that's kind of my volunteer thing so that it's it's really neat and my older daughter plays the saxophone my next son plays the drums and my third son just started baritone this year and my little girl will start French horn next year so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh well my son played the sax and drums my daughter the piano organ and French horn", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "French horn is absolutely wonderful instrument it's just my favorite course that's what i played and so i'm pushing that on my daughter because i wanna play in our city band not the symphony we just the city band once we get the F[rench]- the French horn and i get a little bit more time right now i'm busy chasing my kids", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh okay [vocalized-noise] yes sounds like you've got a houseful", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] i do i do i love it but we have a a marvelous band instructor and and he just he's wonderful we have couple of hundred kids in the band our junior high band is just wonderful h[e]- lot of and then their concert band and then he has a jazz band that my older daughter was in and my son will be in next year that's i mean they ca[n]- play college level music in junior high he's that good of an instructor and the kids just love him", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh that's a oh that's wonderful i i have totally totally a tin ear ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so it's really good it is wonderful oh do you [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i love music i cannot carry a tune in a basket", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i know what i like a[nd]- but i you know and i love to listen to it and i love to sing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i my kids when i was little and they were little and i was rocking them singing to them_1 they'd say", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "okay would you like to um begin or would you like me to start", "role": "user" }, { "content": " uh oh i can start i i think one of the the biggest uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "improvements in women is that finally you're starting to see them_1 get into uh management", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and you're seeing them_1 uh get uh elected to uh political offices uh not near enough i know there's still a long way to go especially in top management", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " hm um-hum yes i agree", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you're not seeing uh you know looking at TI you see them_1 in management but you're not seeing them_1 up there as VPs and i have a sister that's an attorney in Oklahoma City and i know the company that she was with", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh the women didn't h[ave]- have near the positions the levels that the men attorneys had and were not uh given the same respect", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right i agree with that i- i think you do see more and more women out there in politics too as mayors or um you know in in helping to maybe um get some legislation passed to to have women have more rights i think still", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "even with that whole um thing with Judge Thomas and and um you you still felt like the woman was the one that you would maybe discredit first before the man or something the way they had it the trial and um i just think that it's it's still gonna take another generation or so before before the women", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really could really feel that they're really equal in the business world or that they work just as hard or harder [laughter] um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but it's still um going from hm from homemakers into um corporate leaders is still a big step", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right i also think that uh uh women as homemakers are beginning to get more respect than they used to be it used to be people would say do you work and you'd say no i work in the home and it was it was then it was almost like a put down particularly particularly even by women in the work force", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but i think now i think people are realizing that the roles women play in the home are very very important and it's getting the respect and which is about time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes i think it's true i think also people are having children at a older age so maybe like um you know you go through college and then you maybe work for a few years and then you have your first child", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes very definitely", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and um you know you you know both sides of the coin", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know what it's like and how much work it takes to keep the house running smoothly and to take care of the kids and and then uh maybe people that are just working and think oh you just stay at home but then when they're in their thirties and have their first and second kid it's like", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they lose it [laughter] they say wow this is harder than i thought well hm [laughter] [laughter-you] [laughter-know]", "role": "user" }, { "content": " [laughter-right] [laughter] [laughter] [laughter-yes] and and and to those that have never w[orked]- worked and had you know and have stayed home with the kids kind of does your heart good [laughter] because i know i stayed home with mine and didn't start working until mine were in high school and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know it [laughter] i know um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so you know it it kind of does me good i think also one of the things that that's really tremendous and it doesn't necessarily have to do with women but the fact that the fathers are so involved with families which again i think helps the woman's role", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " are so involved yes right right their role has to change to kind of accommodate us too i know i have three children and my oldest is eleven and i've pretty much been home um since Brian was born", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know i- um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and um just recently i went back to work um last school semester to tutor um high school age students with learning disabilities and i was just out of the house two days a week", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i thought wow this is really h[ard]- only and it was only two days and i was home before three but getting the baby to day care getting the kids off to school i still did everything i always do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know my husband still got up and went to work but um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it it only those two it made a big difference i thought wow a full time i don't think i could swing that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i had to course i work full time but my daughter and her husband were out of town", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "personally ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i had my grandchildren for four days during uh football soccer season", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh oh boy", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so i would work and her fr[iends]- some friends would take care of the kids but i would have to get them_1 picked up from there get them_1 fed get them_1 to practices get homework done get baths i was absolutely exhausted and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "picked up dinner right i bet i bet", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and these women that are waiting until they're in their late thirties or early forties to have their first ch[ildren]- children i think are absolutely crazy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i i know a lot of people i know i had my first child when i was twenty five and that's not considered really young these days that's almost you know but um i have friends that that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "have kids just starting kindergarten and they're they're forty years old and and then like maybe a two year old at home and i think boy i- i'm i'm in my thir[ties]-", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "okay uh so your you you i guess uh you're probably in the same uh same situation uh we're in we're kind of past having to provide child care our our kids are grown up we don't have any grandchildren yet but uh uh they're", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh how old are your children ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh one's twenty six and the other is uh twenty twenty one", "role": "user" }, { "content": " uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so they're uh um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well they're gonna be getting there ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they're they're getting there you know there no no no prospects right away for anything to happen but uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh uh-huh oh i see i have uh five children i have a eighteen year old son the rest of my girls are like twenty three twenty six twenty eight and twenty nine and i have three granddaughters right now", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh i uh one's in Iowa", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh she's she's a teacher and what she does is she teaches at a preschool an[d]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so she kind of and they let her bring her her little daughter in for free and then so the they're kind of but she just works part time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "then i have another daughter in uh Bountiful Utah and she has to work full time and it's just tearing her apart she has a private baby sitter", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh the baby just screams i mean the baby is like seventeen months and she just screams we even she knows that they're fixing to get ready to go over there they're not even there yet ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's hard we've", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and then i have my um um i have a seven month old granddaughter and uh her mother stays home and she they live wi[th]- that they live with us you know as in Orange County is really expensive ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they live with us and so of course we love it because_1 we get to see this cute little baby all the time but um uh she just um she used to work in pre[school]- in the preschool and and and child care and she says after working in there and and you know here she was a provider but you know there's only so much one person can do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "she says it's so awful she said she'll never put her child in a in a in a [preca[re]-/preschool] in a p[reschool]- in a preschool", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm sure there must be some good ones around here somewhere but it's really it's really really very difficult and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um yeah now what did you do when your kids were growing up were you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well when when uh the first uh ten years see first ten or twelve years i stayed home", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and um and then after that i i went to work and um uh uh a couple times i just uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um you know th[en]- then i had one job and then that job ran out because_1 it's kind of a government seeded type job and then and then like about la[ter]- later i i tried to get the baby to a babysitter -[sup]posed to be good uh recommended person from the church and i knew her personally she have two kids of her own and everything but i quit my job because i couldn't stand how she was taking care of my child", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i mean first of all uh you know her children were sick all the time so when my son stayed over there he got sick same thing same thing that the her kids had right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you got sick yeah right well", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so um we didn't take her over there until like about eleven o'clock then he she'd take my son and her daughter over t[o]- to kindergarten but sh[e]- uh that day um i was saying now he he's sick and she goes well because_1 he has the same thing that all my kids have that's what he got you know i goes well okay so it's not like he's gonna infect her kids but then what happened was is i said uh he just threw up and kindergarten starts at eleven thirty so she said well she'll keep him home and he'll probably just sleep anyway well you know what that woman sent her sent him to kindergarten she sent him to kindergarten as soon as he went there the teacher took one look at him and he threw up again and they put him in the nursery i mean they put him in the nurse's office", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "guess so yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and then what happened was is you know they gave her a call because they knew that she was my babysitter called her and they said um that he's sick well she wasn't home", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i mean her all her kids are sick but she wasn't home right and her and her her daughter that was in kindergarten with him also did not go to school because she was sick now why didn't he why didn't she keep him home with her no she didn't do that so it got to the point where he he's -[sup]posed to get out of uh kindergarten like about two thirty and i had to leave work it was it was five o'clock in the evening and i found out he was still there at school and they were calling me and they says somebody's got to pick him up and i kept thinking that she was gonna get picked up she was gonna pick him up because_1 she only lives in you know like two blocks away from the school i was trying to get my husband to come and pick him up and all that kind of stuff and he had a hundred and four fever they couldn't uh to give him anything because they're not allowed to at school and everything i was so furious i i quit that job and i stayed home for a while longer then i went and got a um a job in real estate where i can kind of adjust my time a little bit better", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right yeah a li[ttle]- little bit more flexibility you can come and go", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah but uh i haven't had any good really very good experience with child care", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well when our kids were small we had a couple of uh good good women who uh would often co[me]- uh get them_1 to come to the house and and take care o[f]-", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "what kind of lawn and garden work do you do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well right now the place where i'm living the yard was basically neglected for the about the last twenty five years so i've been trying to rebuild and reestablish the entire lawn and after three years of working at it i've i've been amazed at just what a little bit of doing help out things to the lawn has really brought it back ins[tead]- instead of mowing it the same direction every time changing one day you'll or o[ne]- o[ne]- one time you'll cut it cut the lawn the long way then you'll go the opposite way instead of going lengthways you go width and it helps the grass come back", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh does it really i didn't know that did um you've been working on it for three years", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] for for three years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really what have you done", "role": "user" }, { "content": "killing lots of fire ants", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i was firmly convinced the entire front yard was nothing but one gigantic ant mound", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "because_1 it was like you could[n't]- you couldn't even stand still out there without ants starting", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know i can barely hear you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "is this better", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah a little bit yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it was like you'd go out in the yard to water something you'd just be standing still", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and the ants would start crawling up your legs [laughter-and] [laughter-it's] [laughter-like] i'm not standing in a mound though", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh wow how did you get rid of them_1", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh Dursban Two", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "pardon", "role": "user" }, { "content": "a chemical called Dursban Two it's a crystal", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh Dursban Two yeah [laughter] Dursban will get rid of just about anything i think but um so you haven't had a problem with that since", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um not bad every once in a while you'll have a mound pop up but that's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "gonn[a]- to be expected", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what else did it k[ill]- did it kill anything else it wasn't supposed to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um as far as i can tell it hasn't killed anything it wasn't supposed to the even the area of the grass that was underneath and around the mounds it didn't kill it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "not really yeah really well that's pretty wild w[e]- yeah we used it for fleas we had fleas in our yard real bad last year and we did that um i just i'm not basically i like to mow the lawn believe it or not but i sometimes have problems starting the mower so a lot of times i don't get out and do it but my husband basically does most of it and he does the you know edging and all that kind of thing and we're renting and so we don't really put a lot of money into the uh you know th[is]- like this lawn could probably stand a couple of loads of dirt and some Saint Augustine we just we have winter rye out back and we have i don't even know what it [laughter-is] out front but um we this is the first house we've ever lived in and we're just not real into the lawn probably because_1 we rent i guess huh but anyway", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well well you said you had problems with fleas last year in the yard", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right uh-huh we get", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i found one thing that it's kind of a weird thing to say to put out in the lawn but every time i've done it it's got it it drives the fleas completely out of the area", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what", "role": "user" }, { "content": "powdered sulphur", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really hm i wonder why it does", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you d[on't]- you don't have to put a whole lot out just if you've got a broadcast spreader", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think it comes in a forty pound bag and it's real fine like flour", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and you just si[ft]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "go out and do the entire yard and you i mean you don't have to put clumps of it just very lightly cover the entire yard", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really well i'll have to remember that because_1 uh hopefully we won't have them_1 this year but we have a cat that comes in and out and the cat was getting um fleas and stuff and bringing them_1 in the house so we had a real problem last year with fleas and it was uh quite a drag because um we got them_1 in our house and [laughter] we're Christians and we prayed that we could get rid of these fleas and we got rid of them_1 believe it or not with smoke bombs which is just about impossible to do but we did and so we don't want them_1 back this year you [laughter-know] so i'll remember that if we see it's a problem in the yard we almost they were so bad last year even ticks it i don't know we've had ticks before a lot and we've had to get out and treat our lawn for that i think we used Dursban [vocalized-noise] we used Dursban and Diazinon and get out there and do what you do [laughter] with that thing you know and spread it all out everywhere but that's about the extent of our lawn care so i don't know do you enjoy doing it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i love it my wife can't understand it'd be a hundred degrees outside i'll be out there but it's too hot to be working in the yard i'm under the trees i'm having fun and i'm stopping to drink water so what's the [laughter-problem]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well that's well that's funny yeah not everybody enjoys it though everybody has a different things i kind of enjoy it and my husband doesn't [laughter] i kind of have to sometimes i'm too busy to get out there and do it and he you know he doesn't really enjoy doing it but he'll do it and he doesn't gripe about it or anything but you know i'm kind of like you and he's kind of like your wife and you know in that he doesn't really enjoy it but i would like to have a garden though that's my thing but right now where we're living we have the trees where the uh roots are at the top of the ground everywhere all over the ground i don't know what kind of trees they are but you can't have a gar[den]- you can't till it or it'll it'll tear up a nice tiller so we're going to wait until we move we don't have a lot of sun either because_1 it big trees back there so we're going to wait and when we move that's one of our priorities is to get a house where we can have a um garden and so i'd like to do that i have a feeling i'll be out there all the time [laughter] taking care of that but that's our next thing do you have a garden", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i've got the this is the neat thing about the place we ended up at i'm sitting on about a two acre lot now and uh half of it's the back half is my garden", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum oh are you kidding that sounds fun where do y'all live", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh in Missouri City southw[est]- southwest side of Houston", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really wh[at]- southwest where", "role": "user" }, { "content": "southwest Houston", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really oh because_1 we're in Dallas i guess i assumed you were here well that's neat and um yeah that's what we want we have a yeah that's really what we want but we just haven't been able to do that yet so one day we'll be able to do it and i'm excited about it and then i don't know anything about it and i'll have to learn and maybe i'll give you a on [laughter-gardening]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what do you do in your garden and i'll go nothing what is should i do but anyway i guess that's about it though it sounds like we've covered all the bases so i guess we'll let you go and um do you have anything else you wanted to say", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh no [vocalized-noise] en[joyable]- very enjoyable conversation with you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay i know you too i hope you have a nice day and we'll talk to you later bye", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay you too okay bye-bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "hi so uh what was the last car repair you had", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] just recently i was kind of laughing when i when i heard the switchboard talking about the question because uh i had to have my uh radiator flushed", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it was getting rusty and the thing that they forgot to do was to um to also look at the hose and i had gone about oh two days with my new radiator flushed and the hose burst so i was stranded out on the highway [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh no did you crack the block or what", "role": "user" }, { "content": " no i i i didn't do that thank goodness but um there seemed to be enough antifreeze in there you know left to do that but it cost me all kind of money you know to have that repaired after they said they were gonna they had repaired it t so that was that was a horrible experience just recently", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i'll see you got lucky didn't ruin the whole engine though that can be pretty serious", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes yes i know i know what about you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i guess it's been awhile for me i'd s[ay]- it's been about a year", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i had the uh the water pump break on my car", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i was traveling uh i was going on my way home from Thanksgiving and it broke like in the middle of nowhere", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i had to get it towed and then fixed and big pain", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh oh i know i know especially what if you're out on the highway", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's where i was luckily someone came by and gave me a ride", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum i know well you know i uh living in Dallas you know we've got uh bumper to bumper eight lanes of traffic and uh that was that was horrible", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know to have the you know your car is fuming and everything it's already a hundred degrees [laughter-you] [laughter-don't] [laughter-need] [laughter-that] [laughter-too] oh shoot", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but my car is getting old see it's about six years old now so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah so is mine [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah so i got it right out of college and so it's uh it's starting to show that wear and tear now", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i'm hoping mine gets me through i got until May till i'm out so if my car lasts that long i'll be okay ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh yeah that uh that was my graduation present to myself so yeah yeah i know so but gosh it's really starting to to wear so i've been thinking especially now is a good time to buy a car", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that's nice [laughter] yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "gonna because_1 i can't uh i don't know if i wanna you know pay all these repairs now to start getting it fixed when it's starting to breakdown", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i don't wanna do too much on mine because_1 it'll be worth more than the car and that it it's not worth it [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum yeah that's true i agree with you there so i don't know uh because_1 i i need to have it tuned you know tuned up and i don't know replace some of the belts and i was looking at the uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "tires need to be replaced and so i was thinking gee that's a lot of money i'm might as well buy me a new car for that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i got new tires last winter too so i'm like that's the last major purchase for this thing it's not worth it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh well you have to Pennsylvania boy you have to really have your car winterized and stuff huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah we get some killer winters up here in the mountains", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum oh really oh okay so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah lot of snow and a lot of cold", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh well especially don't you have what a lot of salt on the ground", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah at times there's a lot of it you got to like clean out the underneath of your car all the time when you get a chance", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah yeah well rust and the and the body too huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i haven't had a big problem with that though", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i've been pretty lucky there", "role": "user" }, { "content": " well i think they got the new Z Bart stuff and everything to where you can um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's for usually pretty good you just rinse it off after the winter's over and done with it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah and go like that so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i usually like to do most repairs on my own though", "role": "user" }, { "content": "do you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah just because_1 that way i know what's wrong with my car and what it needs and what it really doesn't", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah plus if something goes wrong i'll know who to blame", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] well i i think i'm getting too old for all that my uh i had four brothers and they used to drag me out underneath the car and stuff so i can i can do all that stuff but i i think i'd much prefer to pay the twenty two ninety five to to go and have it done now so i can get my hands dirty", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter] [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so yeah i'm just getting getting to that age i guess you just don't have your time becomes very precious so working on the car is just not one of those things i wanna spend my time on anymore [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] more fun things to do [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": " absolutely absolutely so yeah trying to you know i just need one i had two cars there for a while so i wouldn't have to worry about which car was gonna run", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] well that's nice", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and yeah so but it became a hassle trying to keep up and maintain both of them_1 and yeah so that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah one's bad enough [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes one was bad enough but i think i got rid of the wrong one [laughter] i soon i need a lot of repairs done on on this one so yeah that was uh that was something else", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "whenever our five minutes up [laughter] i i didn't i didn't set the time or anything to uh yeah put", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah i was just wondering that [laughter] yeah i didn't either yeah this must be a a hard category", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well yeah i guess um you know unless you're um you know big {do-it-yourselfer} um to you know fix up your own cars and and things like that so but i guess th[ey]- they were talking about experiences you know i uh uh i did my parents live in Ohio so i i do know something about_1 the you know the really cold weather and uh i've always lived down here in the South and i w[ent]- i took my car up there to their house and um i guess i had a crack in the block and when i got up there the car", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": " okay well um i know so[me]- in some of the one of the smaller towns around Dallas they started curbside recycling", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and that's going really well uh because they i think what ha[ppened]- what what goes on is they get like dis[counts]- they get charged not by the amount of trash they do well they get charged by for the pick up of the trash and not for the recyclables", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so it's so you get p[ay]- you pay less to have your trash picked up becau[se]- if you presort all out all your tra[sh]- all your recyclables", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh that sounds great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what are they doing out there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well it's sort of a mixed bag up here uh some of the communities have started off with volunteer recycling uh one of the towns near here Cambridge uh had a couple years worth of volunteer recycling i never saw it but i know a fellow who was involved in the effort who said that it was amazing just hundreds or you know maybe even more than a thousand cars coming in on the one recycling day a month and they had dozens of volunteers sorting things and when the volume reached a certain level the city's Department of Public Works finally decided to do a curbside program", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "wow um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh my town Arlington has had a uh a similar volunteer program and they just got the Department of Public Works to do a uh a daily drop off at their yard where you know people can bring in glass and and uh paper and and whatnot and aluminum and tin and some of the other towns around here fact just about all the towns that border Arlington where i live have gone to the curbside recycling and i really wish we'd do it here it's just so much easier for people and i think it's it probably results in a larger volume of stuff being recycled if all you have to do is put it out by your curb once a week", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "as it is here i sort of resent the effort to you know collect everything until i have a chance to get down to the DPW yard and drop it off you know it's not a huge inconvenience but it's just one more thing to do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum and it's hard to find i know at least here it's hard to find places that w[ill]- that recycle and so many things are recyclable like shampoo bottles and water bottles", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but no place will take them_1 and you know i mean they're real specific you know you can do your newspapers but you have to take all the slick stuff out you know and well what do you do with the slick stuff", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean they're so specific i mean in i know in Dallas they're having a real hard time right now because the drop off sites", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "people aren't there's a you know what they say that a couple people can mess it up for everybody", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and there's some people that are not sorting out uh like their slick stuff out of their newspapers and uh all their plastic bottles or their brown glass out of their clear glass and the companies that recycle the stuff won't recycle it then", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh boy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and they'll just trash it so tha[t]- all the effort goes downhill", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] boy that's [laughter-a] [laughter-real] problem tha[t]- really hate to hear that just regarding the newspapers the one curbside thing we do have in my town actually is every other week they'll pick up newspapers which is nice and the rule is that anything that comes in the newspaper even the slick uh ad inserts they'll pick up and that's great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that is great gee i- i didn't i- i just thought there was something in the slick stuff that that made it so they couldn't recycle it well that's great", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i- i guess it depends on the facility it's going to the thing that i guess the flip side of that and in our town anyway is that they won't pick up plastics now and even when they were here and in other towns around here they won't take the so called injection molded things which i guess basically are containers that are bigger at the top than at the bottom like yogurt containers typically", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh you know i don't know about Dallas but [laughter-i] [laughter-think] people around Boston eat a lot of yogurt so there's just a lot of lot of containers that uh that wind up getting tossed you know without being recycled", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i don't know what's going on with in terms of capacity it's my impression although i haven't really read anything about it that so many towns and cities have started recycling with there might not be enough firms out there that are willing to take the uh or you know that'll pay decent money to take the materials", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right right i know well i know here at uh i i'm in i'm in college and um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we have more than one campus and i'm on the kind of like an off branch campus", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and on the main campus they've got a company that comes in and takes out all the recyclables all the copy paper and all the cardboard box[es]- i mean everything that's recyclable", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh that's great", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "okay well let's see", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh probably uh in the last few weeks the biggest uh way i've had of keeping up with what was going on in the Gulf was CNN and i think maybe that's probably true for everyone", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right uh we don't uh get that in uh straight fashion but you know the other major channels have been carrying a lot of it so i've seen a good bit of their coverage", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh well we get we get the first you know it comes directly to us from CNN and it's a continuous coverage and course they repeat themselves a lot and it was really easy when", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "as we said well nothing's happening in the war because now they're interviewing the what seems to be dozens of Mideast experts all at once", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right oh they've really done uh good job of keeping everybody informed of what's going on sometimes i've wondered if it wasn't almost more than we needed to [laughter-know] [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hm a little much [laughter-yes] we have uh we're a town of five thousand and so our local newspaper is not too swift", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh well our um newspaper does a pretty good job on most things but you know its uh not totally in depth and quite frankly i didn't read all of the war stuff", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know it was just there were too many long article and i try to quickly read through the paper before work in the morning so i don't don't get to spend a lot of time on everything", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so you are off to work this morning", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] i'm at work yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh you're at work oh i assumed that these were home telephone numbers", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " uh we also get a Chicago uh paper and course that's where our main coverage as far as world events are concerned our local paper is just current events", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what about your uh radio stations do they uh provide much in the way of current event stuff", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "in our town of five thousand we have one that is uh local FM AM station and their news is fed from CNN too uh it's more of uh oh call in for a trading post type thing and uh the fi[fty]- music from the fifties and uh it's i guess what you'd expect from a farming community", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh well i've lived in a small town before and was quite aware of the local radio station at that time and i know how they are", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well ours uh that we tend to listen to most um i like the way they handle news type things because in the morning and in the evening they'll have you know five minutes worth of news every half hour ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but in the middle of the day they don't just drown you with the same old stuff and they won't interrupt unless it's you know really important", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and of course they did a good bit for some of the war stuff but they didn't just over do it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i only watch one soap opera a day and it seems to me and that's probably about once every two months since my husband retired it seems to me so often times that they cut into that soap opera with what i don't really consider as earth shaking i guess maybe i think sometimes the uh the coverage is almost too intent", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i think so i- i don't really think we need to know or even sometimes care so much about all the little nitty-gritty things they keep asking over and over i think think the reporters sometimes ask the silliest questions", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum you mean when the reporter sticks the the microphone in the person says the face and says how do you feel that you house has [laughter-burned] [laughter-to] [laughter-the] [laughter-ground]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah [laughter] things like that are just kind of absurd or once in a while they'll they'll keep uh just hounding someone that they're interviewing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-that's] [laughter-a] [laughter-bit] [laughter-much] [laughter-isn't] [laughter-it] [laughter] um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and there seems to be no purpose um you know the person has stated you know some opinion or fact or whatever and that should be the end of it and they just keep on and on and on", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i guess maybe they have so much time to fill i've thought often times that maybe our world was a little bit better place when i was in high school and the wor[ld]- and the news like your radio station was on fifteen minutes in the evening and then they went on to i don't know i think the Andy Williams show or something that filled up the other fifteen minutes of that half hour and we just weren't so heavy with it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well it's sure been nice visiting with you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well you too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we're having sleet and rain in Indiana this [laughter-morning] [laughter-so]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh well we're having sunshine i think it's gonna be up in the seventies today so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-oh] well have a good day then [laughter] bye-bye", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you too [vocalized-noise] good-bye ", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": " go ahead [laughter] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh have you ever been tested for a new job or anything", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um no i haven't but in my job i'm a nurse and we are allowed to be i mean you know this is the rules that they can do this anytime uh i don't know of anyone who ever has been picked out and been tested", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so it's just sort of um they can if they", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they can if they choose to right ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "y[eah]- oh okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "have you well wh[at]- have you had any experience with it at all", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um not really but i've always worked on a university level but a lot of my friends had to be tested before they got summer jobs and stuff", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh and what do you think about that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i don't i don't think they're very accurate because_1 i mean i know their lifestyles changed p[rior]- prior to the drug test and i know they changed afterwards", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right right see i know of that too and i also know that things like antihistamines Sudafed things like that can really throw it off and you cannot get a job because of it and they may not tell you the reason why", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i- i had a friend it didn't cause her any problems with her job but it came back that she tested positive for using a hallucinogen", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but what it was was she had been u[sing]- she had been um in the jungle and it was some Malaria medication and she tested positive for that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "see and so it really is a dangerous thing that way because i know of somebody that tested for an airline and didn't get the job and they weren't told why but a lot of people say the reason why after you take a physical will be because of the drug testing or they would tell you or this person never use any drugs", "role": "user" }, { "content": "see i always i thought they got you got called back if you tested positive for more test", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but um you should because you should be given another chance or at least able to justify it or something i have real mixed feelings about it i don't know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "how uh do you know how wrong they are are they i mean is there a margin of error", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the accuracy i don't know i don't know but i know there are a lot of things that can influence them and i think that a person deserves a second chance with it or something because most things will stay in your system for a long time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and if you could show that i- i interviewed for a job recently and i was taking Entex", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and my doctor gave me a prescription for it and he said this way if it were to make the drug test positive you have proof that your doctor ordered this for you you know and it didn't come up that i needed to do it but if this could happen to anybody and if they would just say oh this person's drug test is positive we won't hire them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know then you could lose out on a job when really you didn't do anything", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and i i'm not so sure they're that needed i mean", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i don't know yeah i'm not sure either the only way i can see it is that if they really suspect a person of using it then they have the right to go ahead and prove it because they say they can spot check", "role": "user" }, { "content": "ye[ah]- if you're using it while at a job i can see a problem but the occasional person then it's almost like it's almost an infringement of your privacy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well it sort of is and this is it this i'm not real sure how i feel about it because i can see it from two ways you know as a health professional i wouldn't want somebody take care of me that was using drugs", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know so as a patient i feel well yeah we probably should be protected but on the other hand there's a lot of things i should be protected from it they don't test my patients for too [laughter-so] you know i guess you sort of you have to have trust some place along the way", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you can't go around testing everybody for everything", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i don't know and i- i think it could be used to hassle somebody if someone was out to get you i think that a company or a boss could use this you know they could keep on doing this to you or something i guess i can see where it could become a problem", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it it's like it seems like now they have [trests/tests] i guess they can test your hair and they can find out if you use drugs up to several years ago", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really oh wow but maybe you shouldn't be held responsible for something you did several years ago", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's the other thing i mean a lot of a lot of people as kids or you know young people get into some things that they get out of later on and i don't think they should really have to pay for that forever", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah there's a lot of things you do as a kid that you wouldn't do as an adult but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you can't say it was wrong at the time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think that's true yeah yeah so that probably wouldn't be too good either", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": " ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay well let's see invasions of privacy actually um i can't think of too many except uh oh occasionally my employer", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "or um sometimes it seems of a bit of an invasion when i when i get calls from phone solicitors", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's that's one of the that's also that's also for me invasion of privacy that's also a one of my pet peeves", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] well i get i've uh figured out someways creatively as to fight back with phone solicitors though", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "like um well i i've discovered it's kind of fun to try to take control of the conversation", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh like you know typically they're reading from a script", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so if you start asking questions right away", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "or do anything that's a little ou[t]- out of the ordinary they get really thrown", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i see", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so like often what i'll do is i'll call up and say hi i'm Carla from XYZ company and i'll say excuse me uh what's your name again and uh act like i'm writing it down and [vocalized-noise] could i have your last name Carla ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and what's the name of your company you know and this by this time they're really shook up and then um i ask her uh uh Carla could i have your home telephone number please", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and they go well uh no i go well why not i said well i don't give out my home number as well why not i mean you're calling me at home i ought to be able to call you at home and that [laughter-really] [laughter-shakes] [laughter-them_1] [laughter-up] [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] well that's good you have a good sense of humor with it i i would do something like talk to them_1 for like two minutes or something and then say uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well you know the person to talk to i[sn't]- isn't isn't here right now wait a minute i think they're ju[st]- just a minute let me see if they're here and then you leave", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter-yeah] [laughter-right] or put them_1 on hold yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and see how long yeah see how long they'll wait but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well another thing you can do is you can pretend that you got them on call waiting", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "say i'm on long distance on the [laughter-other] [laughter-line] [laughter] or you can just say no thank you and hang up", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah right well i yeah well one of my Tad T A D okay uh one of my things one of my pet peeves is soc[ial]- security numbers", "role": "user" }, { "content": "ah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and that is um i'm an adult but i'm going back to school and everywhere on the campus where i write a check it's they want soc[ial]- security numbers on everything and i just go bananas because_1 it's just it's number one it's none of their business and it and it doesn't ha[ve]- they want it they want it to be put on your check", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and those are used as pin numbers a lot like with my bank uh uh if i want to move money around over the phone or check my balance or anything the pin number they want is the last four digits of the social security", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right exactly and plus in California they have this new thing where they have the magnetic stripe on the back of the driver's license i don't have one yet yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really i didn't know that huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes and that's another thing so they think they can plug you in for a profile see and i", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well now where where do they use the stripe", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "in a a reader", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh you mean like when a cop pulls you over he runs it through a reader", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "or something right exactly", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] well that's amazing ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but see what's happening though is that it's starting be in[tegrated]- to goi[ng]- they're going to try to integrate it into the stores too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so so but the stores can't get all the information", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well like the stores can probably develop their own databases but they can't get into the department of motor vehicles", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'll bet that's it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but the yeah but in other words so they can ver[ify]- they can go in and and get the card and get information off it but the the police reader could get more information you might say", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah because_1 they cou[ld]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i i just i d[on't]- i i don't like the i[dea]- i don't like the idea of business and information you know and in the world is coming to is is is information ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well then you know about caller ID", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh exactly oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah hey did you get uh did you get the number for this off of the internet ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i did ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh [laughter-okay]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "are you an internet man ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah most of the uh most of the [laughter-people] i talk to on here are on [laughter-internet] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah did you get it off of uh Telecom Digest", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah i read that constantly", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so do i yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i post on there from work under Paul Cook at Proctor and Associates", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and at home as Tad Cook", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i see yeah yeah i have an account at school so i'm able to do that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah well i got mine from a friend of mine uh owns a Unix consulting firm and gave me a free account there a few years ago", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i see", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i can just dial it up and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so you have a free di[al]- you dial in free yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it's real neat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah what is it is it eight hundred number or you just happen to be within the boundaries", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i'm wi[th]- yeah we're in actually almost exactly the same exchange i'm real near his office", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay ri[ght]- yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but it's uh it's it's pretty neat he doesn't have a full UUCP fee but i", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah well if you if you're on you're on the usenet groups you might try uh alt privacy ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i yeah i'm on this uh moderated one a mailing list uh that's [vocalized-noise] uh Telecom ", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "um taxes [laughter] you want to go ahead", "role": "user" }, { "content": "sure we pay far too much in taxes well far too much for what we get i mean it's just", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum i agree", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't know it ju[st]- too too much of the money is just lost [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum well i think uh you know when i look at um all the things that are coming out now about over spending and spending money that's not there and buying things that are extremely expensive where they could buy it at it at a better discount um when you when", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hm you mean like those you know twenty thousand dollar toilets [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "exactly exactly that's exactly um the whole thing when you take a look at all those issues of where our money is going and it's just as long as the the person that's spending the money uh doesn't think about oh i can go out and spend anything that i want to it's just unlimited", "role": "user" }, { "content": "sure it's real easy to spend other people's money right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right an unlimited source so they they think well i'll go out and buy a four hundred dollar toilet seat and i could have went to Kmart and bought it for you know ten or fifteen i mean that kind of thing and uh [vocalized-noise] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] right [vocalized-noise] i don't mind them getting what they need it's just when they pay so much for it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "exactly", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it takes very you know very little to just shop around and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "exactly and i know a lot of uh corporations now are looking at their amount of money that's being spent and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's true [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they're looking at what's the best buy it used to be you could go if you had a company you had to go through certain people and you didn't care what you paid", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yep", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean you just got it done now people are putting in bids for things and are looking at things going to actually shop at Best Buy for Best Buy is one of our electronics stores for fax machines things like that instead of going through these office supply companies", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that mark up their amounts and say you know i'll give you a legal pad for five bucks and you can go to another shop and get if for maybe sixty cents or n[inety]- or ninety cents that kind of thing so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah and i'm also wondering why our taxes are still so high considering like the world's probably in better shape now than it has been in the last fifty years ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "except for everything keeps going up you know and i know as a middle class um you know and also i have one dependent has", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "my daughter and i keep looking at well where's the tax so-called tax um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hm", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh relief for having children i mean there is none i mean i think i paid just as much as when i didn't have her", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i know oh i know i mean i don't even you know i don't even get get to see half my paycheck between 401K and and the thirty four percent they're taking out for taxes [laughter] let alone when i end up having to pay [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " so um-hum sure exactly uh-huh exactly yeah that's the whole thing now they've gotten this wonderful idea of not taking out as much taxes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but you're still gonna owe the government as much money so by the end of this coming year what's gonna happen is all these people are going to find out that they owe the government and it certainly isn't going to be in their savings uh account", "role": "user" }, { "content": "sure [laughter] nope they won't be able to pay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they won't be able to pay it and there'll be a lot of problems because of that you know put people into you know January or February which is always supposed to be this month after Christmas is supposed to be high spending because everything is on sale nobody's gonna have the money to spend", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] sure none", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they're gonna be paying on their taxes so they're gonna have to just cut back so i don't know where the answer is and ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't and plus [vocalized-noise] you know there's also like taxation without representation well i don't feel represented anymore in our government i mean it's [laughter] it's certainly not a government for me they don't take care of my needs [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah no no well [vocalized-noise] that's the whole thing i think people are getting so fed up with it now we go through another election and listen to all these lies about the", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and people don't care anymore either p[eople]- people don't wanna go out to vote", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no no well i don't think people think they can make a difference and when you've got candidates as you do it's candidates that have money and it's backed by big business", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yep", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and big business says well we don't care about the little person and uh you know you're not going to get anymore Abe Lincolns around", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no but but that's that's going to backfire because [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum well who knows uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "little people who buy everything so [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah generations from now we might uh set back in our little uh rocking chairs and watch our grandchildren go through an entirely different system of things and say you know this government itself isn't working just like the communist government of uh the old uh USSR and maybe that's gonna happen to America where they'll say hey we're fed up", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah i wonder though [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "maybe it'll have to be just individual state tax", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and each state take care of itself and no government type of uh you know where you have to pay out to federal or whatever i don't know who knows but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i'm not [laughter] i don't know i can't think of any easy answers to it but {somethings} has to happen i mean", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm certainly fed up with it [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] everybody is in fact i'm not sending in my tax money", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "well the topic is is very apropos to what's going on um how do you feel about our topic", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] well i feel like uh i do feel like we pay a lot of taxes i don't mind paying a lot of taxes if the ta[xes]- taxes are spent well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh i'm not convinced that they're being spent well um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um i think that's because uh it's like i told someone the other day i'm a housewife and uh among uh working mother too and i know how it is to live on a budget and i hear what you're saying", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah our taxes it's nice to see them_1 spent for things that benefit the community but when we see them wasted that's when we think we're paying too much", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i feel i- i mean one of the things is when i[t's]- it it's not going it's going into a lot of military stuff which is badly spent", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and not going into a lot of infrastructure things uh or or um you know social needs", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that that it could i mean when you look at the pie it's it of where our money is spent it's it's uh very very um skewed", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh so i don't feel like i- i just don't feel like they're doing what i would do with it [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] well i think uh in a way that's that's uh almost off our topic in you know in that uh they didn't want us to talk about how it was spent but i don't think you can separate it i know um i felt very fortunate once when i talked with a lady from England and she said their taxes are at least fifty percent", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh in talking to people i've met from other places uh we do seem to get off light except you know if you ever make money one year now you pay all this horrible taxes and you don't get to keep [laughter-any] [laughter-of] [laughter-it] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well uh but the people who pay a lot of taxes also get a lot of services they have national health", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so you know uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "in other words yes that's why i say", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "in the other countries", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah so i'm saying if we did i wouldn't mind paying what we pay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "or even more if i got a lot [laughter-of] stuff back for it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well on national health so many of them_1 can't use it they say because they never can get in to see their doctors", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "at least in England", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i we hear that here uh some although we get some people who obviously don't want it like", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "like rich doctors [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "who who'd rather us not have it i think but i don't know i- i just and local taxes um i think are probably just about the same you know the s[chool]- the school taxes and all of that income tax of course is not a a topic in in Texas yet but i'm sure it's coming", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " um-hum i hope it doesn't i uh i hope not but i don't see any way out of it unless we start cutting some spending drastically", "role": "user" }, { "content": "y[eah]- no that's true i've lived in uh states where they had income tax and you you know and you just get used to it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh ag[ain]- again um it just depends on what they're what it's being spent on", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "course i- i think the sales tax is about the most equitable tax there is because if you don't uh buy and participate you don't have to have to pay it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " and uh that way people who use the facilities and live outside of the area basically help pay some of the upkeep for it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and sometimes and sometimes i think it does work that way um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but they you know uh uh again it's it's y[ou]- you you have the different kind of taxes then then then what are they being used for and who is deciding what they are being used for", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and how much is spent to administrate administrate them_1 [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "all those people are doing those things and and and i know that the stories i mean i personally know people who have been in this place where you know they they're having trouble paying their taxes and they", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh like you would with a bank you know go into the IRS and say you know you can you can do all this stuff to me and get nothing or give me you know let me pay this out and you'll get it all", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they'll say no you [laughter-know] and i think n[ow]- wait a minute that was my money you [laughter-said] no with well we[ll]- well you're not going to get it all uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's right yeah and and one of the things that makes it so hard on these people they slap so much penalty and interest on it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that they can triple it in nothing flat", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i mean it's the one place that there's no recourse at all", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and a lot of people aren't trying to get out of it but trying to figure a way to live and pay it back", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they just they don't accept that at all so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "uh actually it turns out to be an interesting topic because i'm now in the middle of a job search graduating here and realizing that one of the things that's not really well represented in benefits often is flexibility because my wife will have some set of benefits where ever she's working and the ability to mix and match in a useful way particularly with things like medical and dental it's something that i've been uh looking for", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's true one of the really disturbing things for me is uh is the way that the government mandates that all insurance policies include particular benefits uh even though you could you might never have any need for them_1 uh here in Georgia they just passed a law for example that every health insurance policy must include coverage for mammograms and pap smears doesn't matter that you're single and male you still have coverage for mammograms and pap smears and uh [laughter] it's that kind of thing that uh uh that bothers me", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's amusing [laughter] yeah yeah i think we have a similar thing in California and i think that at the moment you can't issue health insurance that doesn't have coverage for substance abuse and certain other mental health issues and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh drug treat[ment]- yeah drug treatment and alcohol and yeah that's the same thing here even if you're", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and the result is a lot of people won't provide it at all or over charge", "role": "user" }, { "content": "even if you're a Mormon you still have to have uh coverage for smoking recovery you [laughter-know]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh but but in general your idea about flexibility i think is a very good one because uh uh if y[ou]- if you have a a full gamut of of coverages um uh uh there might there might be a lot of things that the company [vocalized-noise] is wi[lling]- willing to pay for but that you're simply not interested in and what you ra[ther]- prefer to do is say", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "don't get some of those programs but shuffle the money over to another place to lower your deductibles or something", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the other things they do seem to be willing to spend money in strange ways for instance i know where my wife works she can get for something like five or ten dollars a month sole health insurance but ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it would cost her an additional sixty or seventy a month to include me on that policy well assuming that we both work at places that feel this way we may very well miss out on the convenience of going to the same place because those two places will never get together and agree okay one of them_1 will pay for all of the uh the dental and optical and the other one'll pay for the medical", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "instead it's it's very much designed towards self only insurance i don't know if all employers are that way but a lot of them i have seen are", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i think that uh a a lot of them_1 are that way they uh th[ey]- they dea[l]- they deal with coordination of benefits and and no no particular illness who's the primary [carrer/carrier] and who's the secondary carrier but um uh everyone tries to be the secondary carrier and it's very difficult to to get it worked out uh i know at at Hayes uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the coverage for the employee is is completely paid by the company and to get your entire family covered is thirty eight dollars a month", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well that's pretty good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it is i'm very pleased uh i think uh very pleased with the benefit package that we have that has uh uh a dental check ups are completely covered um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "there's a lot of particular things in the medical package that are covered from the first dollar particularly if you chose low cost alternatives like out patient treatment rather than inpatient and uh things like that um they have good educational benefits if you want to uh try to improve your uh you know g[o]- work further on a degree or or get a master's degree of something uh uh course", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's something this university at at least the graduate student negotiated plan was very bad about this idea of low cost alternatives", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know in one case there were doctors around who were affiliated with the university who you can go see and all your lab work is covered under their research so in fact you're saving them you know hundreds of dollars in in billings by going to a research uh physician yet at the same time they will only pay based on eighty percent of the customary reasonable charges for the physicians visits and won't take into account the fact that by seeing that doctor you're saving them you know a couple of hundred dollars over going to somebody else and a lot of things like that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um one thing i was wondering is something i've noticed that that they don't publicize much but a lot of companies in particularly organizations school and government organizations have is legal uh services of some sort", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah we don't have that either", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh in in some ways i think it's it would be very good thing uh you know to be able to get your wills done and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh advice just by picking up the phone or without having to actually uh you know pay somebody ex[tra]-", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "well Amy it's been uh kind of overcast today and cloudy we have a our i have a son in kindergarten he was having a kite day", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah oh boy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i was really worried about it raining because it its has been there been some dark clouds and it's been um and it's been pretty rainy looking ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i've been trying to put weed spray on the lawn for the whole week and you can't put it on if it's suppose to rain within forty eight hours", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so i keep hearing the forecast it's going to rain it's going to rain it's going to rain but it really hasn't rained yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know it just has that i it looks several times in the last couple of weeks it has looked rainy that day and not not done anything and we have a lot of trees", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "in our yard and o[ur]- property and they're pretty old big tall trees and so if it's an overcast day then the weather is pretty blah [laughter] because i really have to some sunshine or else i feel like i live in a cave all the time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah yeah [laughter] well i get tired with the ki[d]- i have two ki[d]- preschoolers a three year old and a two year old and when it's you know not nice and they can't go out it's really the [laughter-pits] so i appreciate it when at lat[ely]- they can at least go play in the backyard for an hour or something you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum oh i bet [vocalized-noise] yeah that makes a big difference but i uh we're kind of new to Plano and i'm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "working on a carnival that's going to be in a couple of weeks for our school and i'm thinking that this has been a pretty you know rainy season it's been scary it's of kind of been cloudy every day and i thought well i'm just not anxious to have worry about the weather ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah well my three and half year old he really wants to have the pool out in the backyard [laughter-you] [laughter-know] so any day i mean all Winter long [laughter-he's] [laughter-been] [laughter-wanting] [laughter-a] [laughter-pool] [laughter-in] [laughter-the] [laughter-backyard] so i'm hoping you know that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it just seems like the weather around here goes so quickly from being Winter to you know muggy and hot and it's just you never really have like nice cool sixty five or seventy degree weather with sunshine you know and i really miss that i'm from Chicago originally and i miss some miss seasons that you know that we used to get up there that you just don't have down here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum well i know in um i'm from Missouri and we always had pretty nice four seasons and and you know ex[treme]- we have some extreme weather in each season but um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i like that and we moved here from Houston in in uh July and everyone kept saying oh you're going up north it's not going to be so hot it's not going to be so humid and yeah that has just not been the case it has been", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh [laughter] oh really yeah it's pretty hot here [laughter-during] [laughter-the] [laughter-Summer] [laughter-gosh]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh it was extremely hot i thought i was going to die my car i thought it was going die last summer but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "do have air conditioning in your car or", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well the air conditioning was broke but broken i guess it just couldn't handle", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the stress and the heat the record heat and you know i was worried about every time we came to an intersection [laughter-that] the car started idling rough you know because of the extreme heat", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah yeah yeah i know my husband doesn't have air conditioning in his car and he when he comes home from work you know during the Summer he's just w[ell]- he feels like he's burning like he's been baking for an [laughter-hour] gosh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum oh i know that's really awful but but i uh understand that this is kind of typical for this time of year the rainy season", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah what i hate is i hate having to water so much around here you know well we never used to have to water our lawns you know in Chicago it was always enough rain here and there", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum no sure", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but here if you don't water it just looks awful and i just hate to spend the money just going down the drain in watering grass you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "brown yeah that is that is awful and it it takes time and the and the kids they you have to water your lawn and they want to go out and run in it and get all muddy and you know so you're going do i want a di[rt]- a green lawn or a muddy feet [laughter] in the house", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter] yeah we have a dog too so that adds to it you know been tracing in and out with whatever the weather is like out there so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh no [vocalized-noise] well i don't know do the nice thing i'm looking forward to is uh not having a hurricane season", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah because Houston was really hurricane alley wasn't it weren't there a lot of hurricanes there or ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes we always had to big concern about hurricanes because_1 we're close enough to the coast and you know you had to have a supply like uh emergency supply on hand all the time during the hurricane season and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh boy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it was pretty spooky this", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah that would be gosh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they always have to think you know what's the weather doing and ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "keep the weather radio close by and stuff like that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right and do we have enough for you know um food storage and enough uh batteries and all the kinds of things", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah really every time i store batteries i wind up going to use them and they're [laughter-dead] [laughter-they've] [laughter-been] [laughter-stored] [laughter-so] [laughter-long] [laughter] oh boy well then this is a little bit of relief although they still have warnings all the time around here for", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's right so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know tornado season hurricanes and stuff so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum well i yeah i don't really like tornadoes either", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh at least there isn't at least [vocalized-noise] i feel like i got rid of something", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah] [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hurricanes so not too much of that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well i've been worried about mostly with having little kids now with taking them out in the Summer and getting them burnt up i mean i have to keep the sun screen on them just constantly when they go outside", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "because_1 they say it's just so dangerous for little ones to get a bad sunburn ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it is and i just i can't believe this the record temperatures that have were here last summer that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so yeah a hundred and ten degrees and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it was just unbelievably hot and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] i can't stand to be outside at all when it's like that i just don't even want to go out you know the [laughter-house] [laughter-to] [laughter-get] the mail [laughter-even] [laughter] leave me in the air conditioning", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] that is pretty bad", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we had our air conditioning broke break [laughter-last] [laughter-last] [laughter-Summer] the switch got something wrong with the switch and we had to call somebody out to fix it because i couldn't take it more than a few hours without it on but ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i know i can't imagine even well that would it is just pretty bad but so i guess um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i guess the weather hasn't changed too much from here to Houston and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but it is like you say coming a little bit further up north", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's a little bit nicer to have a Spring and a Fall season where you have some pleasant weather everyday where you can feel like you just want to open your windows and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no yeah that's really nice i hate having to leave the house clo[sed]- you know closed up all the time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "an[d]- get some fresh air in the house and it feels good but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i guess", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well have you been here during the real heavy heavy rains i mean i can't remember what time of year i think it's usually this time of year when we get some just torrential down pour gosh there was flooding our neighbors had flooding so badly it was like a foot deep in their house last year", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no but i remember [vocalized-noise] oh no", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they had to replace all their carpeting and everything it was miserable", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "now that sounds awful", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter-that] [laughter-would] [laughter-not] [laughter-be] fun", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no i have seen those i have driven around in the neighborhoods and seen those little flood gauges that will be there little yellow signs", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's you know has it like from one foot to four foot and i thought i would never buy a house were there is a flood gauge down the street", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-oh] [laughter-really] [laughter] oh gosh no kidding talk about asking for trouble huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that would be awful", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i've got some kids out on the trampoline i need to go look and see what they're doing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay well have a good day [laughter] thanks bye-bye ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well you too bye-bye", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "hi", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hi uh as a matter of fact this past weekend since we had a long weekend i uh took on a painting project in my bathroom and i had wallpaper up i had to completely strip the wallpaper off and then spackle holes and then paint that and it took me all weekend because uh the wallpaper getting it off i had to wet the walls down and that had to dry and then the spackling had to dry a day and then the painting took another day", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you didn't try we {rewallpapering} you just uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no i i just painted", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "did you use a textured paint or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh no actually the wall behind the paper was smooth so i just used a like a semigloss", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well did you get good results", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well no not really i need to it [laughter-it] looks so bad our you can see where those spackling marks were i need to uh either paper back over it or do something ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah but just didn't it didn't it didn't cover it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it covered the spots pretty good but it didn't excuse me it didn't uh uh it just didn't look as smooth as i wanted it to", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well we did a uh we moved oh last August and we're getting a house my house had this dark wood paneling at the end of the den and we decided we went to i've forgotten one of the paint stores and they just said oh you can get by and i forgotten what it was you put down and then you can just paint right over the dark", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well more or less after about uh half dozen coats it looks reasonable but it kept the the dark it was uh just a real dark uh wood grain type paneling", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh it was smooth and uh and we would we put this stuff on and and it supposedly textured it or or did something to it and but because of the th[e]- dark behind it was really really hard to cover and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "was it like a primer", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it was something like that although we sort of when we got through i wished we hadn't done it because we were you know we were trying to make the house look nice to sell it and we were painting it and trying to do uh you know make it and it it really was", "role": "user" }, { "content": "would you put a huh uh-huh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know the advice they give you is uh the job was considerably tougher than we thought", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh particularly when you try to i was talking to somebody else who who had a lot of wood paneling and uh they had gotten somebody to come in with an estimate and it seemed like there was it was a good sized den with a lot paneling and the people quoted thirty thousand dollars to paint it or something", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh my goodness that's an awful lot", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "have you have you tried getting outside estimates to see what it costs to have something painted", "role": "user" }, { "content": "not inside now uh when we bought the house that we live in right now we had a company that came out and painted it that was one of the requirements from you know FHA", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that the house be painted before we bought it and it was fairly reasonable we have a brick house but all the trim", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "around the house was uh if i remember right it was like uh five hundred dollars", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that's quite reasonable", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so that wasn't too bad", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um the problem is have you have you tried matching paint lately", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no i haven't", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "my wife we we built a shed over the long way actually it took [laughter] this is not on the topic but i did finish it but my wife went to the uh Home Depot i think it was and and took a uh a copy of took a piece of brick ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and she wanted to paint the shed it's a it's a wooden shed uh and she took it and they've got this machine that matches the color of paint", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh they got and uh and in fact she put some right ba[ck]- she got they mixed uh a gallon of it and uh it's just remarkable how close it will match the paint uh and it does it uh oh electronically some something magic", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh so they did do a good job", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah you know they it but it's electronic ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh you put your sample under this thing and it looks at it and and uh and determines the and it it's really remarkable uh the problem they had and then they wanted some gray to do the to do the trim", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh but they didn't didn't occur to them that um that they could have taken a sample", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um from i forgotten this is Sherwin Williams Paint or something but anyway it's it's remarkable that's one of the problems though when you start painting to try to get the you know you want this you want this to look like this and you want that to look like that and of course if it's all white you're all right but when you start getting into colors have you had problems getting colors to match", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah yeah as a matter of fact uh what we've got ours painted now is kind of a light creamy color and a uh a blue and the blue even so many years two years later or so it doesn't match", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the very same type of paint and everything ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "gosh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so you so what's your what's the solution then", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i have no idea i repainted the whole thing [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh my well at least you'll get very good at it right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you could go back and and paint the whole thing over that's uh this is an interesting topic that they would bring up painting because it uh it seems like everybody has a you know to go in and do i'll just do a little bit here and a little that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "although the uh it's uh it we almost one day we we painted the house to uh we painted we painted the whole inside and it had all this dark trim we thought uh you know we did the one wall but the other trim i'm trying to think i think i think we left most of it because it gets to be uh they don't do that in the newer houses now we don't uh the mold everything is white in a new house everything is white ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah that's right white yeah that's what we're trying to get ours to look like", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh good luck [laughter] we wound up selling the house actually i i don't know whether it made actually it does it's interesting that the white um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "makes the rooms look bigger one of the in our down stairs in our dining room we have a formal dining room it has molding uh like picture frames i don't know what you call that that actually that are along the walls that you know up a couple of feet ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and my wife painted those the insides of those dark blue", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i see", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh [vocalized-noise] it makes the room look remarkably smaller ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh she painted the insides dark blue and then the trim what co[lor]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the trim is still white", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay white", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the the molding but by and she did that all the way around the room which makes it look very attractive but it makes the room look smaller which is uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh which is it explains why they why they have everything white but i you wouldn't think that i well", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "maybe maybe somebody that understands colors would know all of that stuff but ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well uh what about the lighting did it make a big difference", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh not particularly because the house has so many windows uh it has the the the living room has four uh good size windows", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh well of course at night but with the we have we have we have a soccer field that's um oh about a hundred yards from our house", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and the lights shine right at our house it's kind of we didn't know that when we bought the house but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so that uh you get some the color doesn't really matter for because you have that light", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah we have a lot of light yeah and well it it it um well it's just uh i think it's just the the the dark blue to about three feet and then above that we left it white so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "all time oh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "anyway it didn't it didn't change but the the interesting thing is that paint we wound up having to go back and and scrape some of that away it didn't it kind of bled under the masking tape which i guess is probably the topic we're ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "I see uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we're really on to that that the masking is you have to do that very very carefully", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it takes a long time [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's right you can work yourself to death well i'm sorry to hear your color didn't come out so good over the weekend", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah really no kidding", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's kind of frustrating", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it is a lot of work a lot of work", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i've got to go to a meeting it's been good talking to you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "nice talking to you thanks a lot bye", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay good-bye", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": " well i guess i don't have as much time for hobbies as i used to", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what is your hobby isn't that the truth", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i got two young boys uh four and two so i spend a lot of time with them [laughter] but uh whenever the weather's nice and uh we can get out i like to work in the garden a little bit uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] get that mud up in your fingernails yeah yeah i know how it goes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah] yeah you know that's pretty relaxing to me like this", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh hey i tell you what getting outdoors is wonderful i do too my wife always gets mad at me for doing it so much because_1 she says you know i always come in so hot and sweaty and tired i said yeah but i love it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but for my you know my hobby believe it or not is really a collection i- i collect Mickey Mouse", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i it is a full time hobby of going out there and finding things to to add to the collection i got well over two thousand Mickey Mouse items so that's that's my hobby", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wow that's great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " uh at one time and this is about fifteen years ago i actually uh got some uh what do you call it uh ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh plywood board and i made some Christmas cut out figures that i put in the yard and i mean they", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "everyone always talks about you know where'd i buy them_1 and i keep telling them_1 but i didn't buy them_1 i- i made them you know and they stood there now for some fifteen years so uh and that in itself was a lot of fun you know but i've never worked with a jig saw before but it sure did work you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] wow that's pretty neat yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i guess the other hobby that i did at one time i don't do anymore is good old needlepointing and uh that was my wife's hobby and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hm i see", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i picked it up and i did some stuff and i entered it into the state fair and i won a couple ribbons and said well okay but [vocalized-noise] for some reason it just didn't really catch my thing but my hobby of collecting Mickey Mouse", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think i've got the disease now [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] now that you have more and more time on your hands right [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] true true but i don't know you know it's you you're right though uh with the kids and i now have a six year old i don't have as much time for the hobbies as i used to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] wh[at]- yeah yeah i know what you mean they take up all my time now i'm kind of looking forward to the time when uh they're a little bit older and they can get out and you know get a little more active in sports and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " well [vocalized-noise] at this point my kid is six years old the we just finished our first season of flag football and daddy had a ball now i don't know if he had a good time but i had a great time and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "ah [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i look you know more forward to that i guess maybe that stage of my life i- i don't have enough time to do hobbies but i do have enough time to to play with the kids and that's what i wanna do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah me too i'm i'm really i can't wait for that time i really can't wait", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh [vocalized-noise] i took them_1 out to a a a little T-ball and that that that worked out real nice", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "he he enjoyed it uh i'm not sure that he understood what was going on but you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but at six years old i- i think they're still a little bit young", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah see my oldest is four", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but the but flag football he picked up that real quick he loved it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really th[at]- that's great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah and daddy loved it too i mean [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] that's pretty good yeah mine's um uh just now has started getting into well you know like all the other li[ttle]- little young kids he was up on the Turtles and stuff but now he's trying to get into Robin Hood", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "ah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so we're gonna get him s[ome]- one of those Nerf Robin Hood bow and arrow things", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well [vocalized-noise] i'm going to be doing for this Christmas uh i'm buying him a uh swing set which includes a fort and everything else", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] uh-huh oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and they say it only takes thirteen hours to build i'm thinking uh-huh so i have a feeling i might find myself with a full time hobby [laughter] i've got a uh a fence builder who's gonna come over there to help me so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter] oh that's good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hopefully between the two of us we can figure out how to put that sucker together", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah it always always helps to get somebody to help you out", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "g[ot]- oh yes the the swing set that we have a little Jim Dandy uh made out of metal is okay but he's much too big for that and his imagination's much bigger so we we've got the monkey bars and the fort and you know it goes on and on and on", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hm uh-huh yeah wow yeah yeah whenever uh um every now and then i'll take mine to the park and they like to play on all of that stuff that's at the park and and it's like you said it's got the fort and you know it's the whole works", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yes um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "made out of wood", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and and now who knows maybe the kids in the neighborhood will wanna come to his house to play you know [laughter] so [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] he always goes over their houses huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh right now we always do because_1 he says there's nothing to play with at our house so well okay so [laughter] i'd like to have my turn to be able to invite the kids because i- i don't know about you but i love having the kids around it's fun", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah uh there aren't too many right now actually mine are the oldest on our block uh the other ones are at least a year to two years younger so ours is a a block of pretty young kids right now ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "ah uh i think in my neighborhood there's about two or three at the same age but most of them_1 are about two or three years older so mine my [vocalized-noise] a little bit younger so but oh well he'll he'll he'll get there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i see i see [laughter] yeah i wanna know this side of it and and they do they do tend to congregate around our house and and you know i never really thought about that much either all the little ones come over and they kind of hang around our front yard but uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "s[o]- so i guess the bottom line conclusion is t[ake]-", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "okay so my children are twenty and twenty four and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "my son just moved uh to Arkansas so he's married so course uh uh when when they're here when they lived here and i have a daughter whose twenty and we spend a lot of time together", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "not so much as you know [vocalized-noise] we're we both have everybody's busy but when my kids were younger i was a single parent and i spent most of my life with my children i did a did a lot things with the kids", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh yeah it's uh a i don't i i i one thing that happened is when when my son uh graduated from high school and he went off to college then it it drastically changed uh be[fore]- prior to that we had sit down dinners and we talked and we did a whole lot of things and then when he left", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] uh my daughter and i just kind of said well let's just kind of do what do our own thing and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know i i think that might i don't know i don't know you know it's been so long since i had little children at home i'll i'll leave it up to you as to what's really going on these days", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well i first of all i'd i admire you for i have a few friends who are single parents and i just don't know how people [laughter-do] [laughter-it] [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's is a tremendous burden to be working and have two kids to take care of", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i don't know how you did it but um i have a six year old that's well she's in first grade and then i have a three and a half year old and um i have always been a big advocate of spending tons of time with my kids and um when i my first one when she was born i had to work part-time for a while because we had to have the extra money but when the second one came along i was fortunate enough that i i quit and i've been able to stay home and um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh so you're not working now great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no no i don't work yeah and so i'm one of those few old-fashioned moms [laughter] and we uh i spend the whole day with Tara and we go and do things and we read books and we play and you know it's just it's great and i did the same thing with Taylor uh who's my first grader she's also a girl and uh i th[ink]- i think i can tell a real difference um Taylor has excelled in school like i just i never imagined she would she's at the top of her class in everything even though she's almost two year younger than almost all the kids in her class", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i really feel like that um time i spent with her i mean she probably already had a lot uh of it in her but you know we spent a whole lot of time together reading books and doing a lot of things i think it helped her to feel real good about herself and feel like she could she could do it you know [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so it's it's been real rewarding for me anyway", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right but you know if uh uh i know now that i can look back and and i think about how much how much time i devoted to my children and and not necessarily but sacrificed a social life because i really did devote myself to my children basically i mean", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i'm sure uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i mean i was i mean i did some things but i mean i really did but i have no regrets about that and i you know um ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i can look back and it was so much fun being a kid with them and getting to do all the fun things that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know you get to do it that kids get to do and and that you wouldn't do by do you know with other adults", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so it's great fun i really envy you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "this is a wonderful time of your life", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well it is you know as a matter of fact i think i'm real bad about looking ahead and thinking oh i don't ever want them to [laughter] grow up and you know go away to college and all that kind of thing but at least i'm really making the most of the time while they're little and um everything Taylor even attempts to do you know we go and watch her and and support her and that was something my parents weren't able to do and i resented that because i would be in i was always in plays in high school and in all kinds of drama and they could never come and watch me and that just it was so hard for me so i made a vow that when i had kids no matter what they did i was going to be there you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and see them do it so it and like you said it's fun i really enjoy it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i can remember my my mom started working my parents [vocalized-noise] well course both of them worked but my mom started working when i i was third the la[st]- the youngest and she started working when i went to first grade and i can remember", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "just a couple of few times that she would stay home and i i don't know if she was sick or just wanted to take the day off or what but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "come home from school and you know eve[ry]- like you'd tell that she'd just mopped and she had you know food was cooking and the house smelled so good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i tell you what i'd ta[ke]- i don't know if children who maybe children who have that everyday don't don't don't appreciate it as much as you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh it really was really was a special and i wished that she could have been home more it would have been greater because she was", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "because she worked she was always kind of high strung and you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "didn't have the time to spend with us individually so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think it's great if if uh if if you enjoy staying home with your kids while they're young and and can do it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's great i wish i could stay home now [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter-i] [laughter-know] [laughter-well] i feel i feel really thankful that i can i mean we have had to really lower our standard of living you know we have friends who have beautiful homes and we have a very small old house but i just to me that's not important because i feel like we'll have plenty of time to get us a nice house some day [laughter] and i won't have these you know these little kids all my life so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um i just i have been willing to make the sacrifices and my husband has too and so it's not been a problem for us", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well and and uh so you probably have a lot of friends who have small children do you do you find the the trend is uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "away from what you're doing or that they're not spending that much time with them put them off with sitters and how about", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well it's interesting we're real involved with a church group and so most of our friends are uh church friends", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and they're the majority of them do stay home uh almost all of my friends i can call any time of day and they're home but um the fr[iends]- the friends that i've kept in contact with from you know when i did work and they're still working moms you know uh that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i feel like i real big uh difference in opinion with some of them because some of them work just because they enjoy working you know they they don't really have to work they just want to they like to get out and they don't want to be with their kids all day [laughter] and and that's hard for me because to me they're giving up something so precious you know and um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so any time we talk get on that topic i have to be real careful because i'm afraid i'll say something to offend them [laughter] but um most of my friends do stay home so that it's kind of nice we we have a big support group around here", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well that's great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it is i don't know how long everybody will be able to afford to keep doing it [laughter] but if", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i guess you just get used to you know living however you have to live to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i meant you know i meant if you don't ever have to go to work and you and you're you're happy you know even if your", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh kids all the way through high school and then it doesn't mean you have to go back to work", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well i intend to uh i think when they're both in school i may i have a degree to teach and um i've never used it because i was pregnant when i graduated from college and i've always had you know been home with kids or worked part-time but um i might go into like substitute teaching or something because", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay the hours are at least to be home you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah and i can choose they say as a substitute you can tell them the days that you're interested and you know the days you're not you don't have to so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that way uh maybe then then you can find out if you're really happy doing that if you want to do it full time later on", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right yeah because i have a feeling i'm not going to like [laughter-it] [laughter] when i did my uh student teaching i oh i hated it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so that's good [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i said i don't know why i majored in uh elementary education and here i'm about to graduate and i don't even like this [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well maybe now that you've had your own children you'll like to be around little children or have a litt[le]- little better tolerance", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah yeah it'll probably make a whole difference and plus i didn't feel well at the time i was pregnant and i was real sick and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that'd be tough yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i and you just don't feel like being around all these little kids when you are just sick to your [laughter-stomach]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but anyway it's been nice talking to you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "nice talking to you and maybe i'll talk to you again okay bye-bye", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh thanks for calling bye bye", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "well the roles of women have certainly changed over the last uh decade or two and i wonder if the the stresses that it puts on the the woman's body is uh all that good for her as it were had had there been enough adjustments in society to help the woman cope with what she has to go through um support group wise or or just all the different aspects that men have developed over the years to handle what the world does to them uh how how is the woman's world coming along in that respect", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think it's come along very slowly i think that uh a lot of the stresses that you talk about ha[ve]- have [vocalized-noise] have taken a long time to become recognized but more strides are made toward addressing those stresses in women than ever were in men and i think that you know women have had stress you know for the last two hundred years but it's been a different kind of stress different kinds of situations because just being in the work place is different from being at home but at home you still have work to do you still have things to take care of but you don't have the responsibilities and the pressures that you have in the work place so a lot of women have a little bit of trouble adjusting to that but i feel like the in in the last couple of decades the the roles have almost come full circle because you know early on people were wanting to we were wanting to stay home with the kids and then they got into everybody has to have a career and it seems to be going back to a lot of women wanting to stay home with their kids although i don't think it'll ever go back to the way it used to be there will still be many many women who seek careers uh before they seek family", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "do you think a matter of choice or economics both", "role": "user" }, { "content": "both i think it's it's a matter of both um ec[onomics]- economics has a lot to do with it unfortunately but uh i think a lot of choice has gone into it lately and and most of them o[r]- or a lot of women i know would rather", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um if they have children they would rather stay home with them if if they if they possible can ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's true you know that's an interesting point that you brought up about the the fact that they essentially always have been under stress uh i would say more in the later latter years even those who stayed home had stress but when you're the one or the two out of ten women staying home on the block uh then the stresses that you do have uh the normal day-to-day stresses caring for children or whatever is occurring", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh you could go to at one time one era you could go to the other dozens of wives on the block or you could meet for tea or whatever and you had that stress relief uh built in", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah your neighbors that's true", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh whereas now with it's a kind of fifty fifty split or leaning whatever percentage happens to be in your neighborhood like for our neighborhood we're looking at ninety percent working women let's say uh there's no place for the wife to go when she has uh those kind of of stresses to be relieved", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah right there's no one for her to go talk to and there's also no one to to kind of come in and take over for her and allow her some time to herself for even a day you know because there's fewer and fewer people left or women that left at home to do that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so that's right about two months ago Omni Magazine which is a a science magazine are you familiar with that read an article um really restating some conclusions of some some uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "programs or some investigations or research whatever you want to call it into the the actual physical differences between men and women and questioning whether those physical differences uh accounted for some of the differences in ways women handled stress as opposed to men and i guess to just barely summarize what the article said was that in the the womb the differing levels of testosterone and estrogen across the lower part of the brain the base of the brain affected essentially how the brain was connected to the rest of the body", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh now how that has to deal with stress i'm not really sure since i thought most of the stress had to do with you know from the from the eyes and the mental processes on up i don't know what it would have to do with the connectivity to the rest of the body", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hum yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but it was an interesting uh uh line of reasoning where we've always thought or been told especially by the [vocalized-noise] for lack of a better term women's libber you know we're just the same as men well maybe not and and maybe you shouldn't be exposed to the stress the same way that men have", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "have managed to do all these years and maybe it will take a lot longer before the phy[sical]- physical evolution or for lack of a better term will occur to allow you to handle what we've put ourselves through", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i agree with that i it it's something that um you know i guess science will eventually have all the answers to everything i don't know but it seems like it it would really be it's it's really difficult to put two p[erson]- a male and a female in the same role in the same circumstances and have them react to have them and their bodies react to the same situation in si[milar]- similar ways i think you know even between a same sexes in a different in the same role there would there would be differences in the way one guy handled something over the way another guy would handle it so i- i think when you put a male and a female in", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "in and when in comparison you know it would be uh completely different i mean just just totally different and it you know goes a lot of it goes back to the way you were raised as children you know the males are raised to believe this and be this way and the females are raised to believe something else and be this way and uh when when you're raised that way [vocalized-noise] y[ou]- you kind of perpetuate that oh those ideals that other people uh force upon you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so you don't you're not able to well i- i guess you are able to if you want to change them but y[ou]- you stay in those roles for so long that it's it's hard to to adjust and it would take a a really long time for ethnic science to figure out you know what affects women how and how the same thing affects men i think it i just don't think it's any kind of study they can do in any even twenty or thirty year period of time you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah the subject would die before they had to run all the tests that they need [laughter] [laughter-that's] it would be an exhausted test uh how about the the area of role models or roles as it were when you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right [laughter] [laughter] it would", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know teach the boy that uh he fixes the car and the woman fixes the meal uh not not arguing that there should be a role for a sex but should there be uh a set of not not a specific role let's say let's not say that only the the girls should do the cooking but at any given generation or for any given", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh compatibility if you want a couple to be together shouldn't they have uh defined roles as it were uh certainly capable of sharing the other role for nothing more than empathy i mean it you know at least they understand what the other person is going through", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh not being a tremendous cook i- i know what the burden of preparing a meal but i don't know what [vocalized-noise] it would have taken to make that meal taste any better out on the budget i give her that kind of deal", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i- i wonder i don't have any argument or any problem with women changing a given role as long as there's something on the other side let's say of of any relationship to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to match that i mean you don't want two people doing the same thing in the relationship", "role": "user" }, { "content": "to pick up the slack yeah that's right yeah yeah you have to it has to balance out", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i guess that's when you get into relationships and people people are attracted to people who compliment them most often i mean they say opposites attract and i'm not too sure i believe that very much but uh i think that people when they get into relationships you know if there's somebody who l[ike]- like if you got two people who hate to cook they're going to eat out all the time and that you know that's not that big a deal but you know if you get somebody who likes to cook and someone who doesn't like to cook then the person who doesn't who doesn't like to cook probably likes to do something else you know so i think that people end up i think that that women are more diverse now than they ever were as far as what they have learned and what they're capable of and and uh what they're willing to do and so i feel like it you know that men have gotten to be that way too they've gotten a little bit more relaxed in their thinking about uh women and you know what they expect of them so i think that you know it's a slow evolution but i think it's it's it's a good process i think it's it's working you know there are still people who men who believe that women should be home you know all day", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and cooking dinner [laughter] my husband's in the kitchen cooking dinner saying right on [laughter-right] [laughter-on]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i i- i know one that's st[ill]- that way but that's about it i'm down to one friend that holds that position still i'm the only one home right now and i i have the kids clamoring for my attention now so i understand what that's like", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] yes so i- i you know think that there are very few men who still feel that way and very few women who will tolerate a man who feels that way", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "now that's an interesting point yeah i mean once the expectations are", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "so uh tell me about changes from say twenty years ago since you were an adult twenty years ago", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well let's see well we assume i was an adult twenty years ago [laughter] um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well you're you're able to you're able to uh vote and go to war and things like that so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh yeah definitely able to go to war twenty years ago but not vote not vote that was one of the changes that came about in the last twenty years um yeah twenty years ago was nineteen seventy uh nineteen seventy i had been married two years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that's right that's one of the changes [laughter] uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um we had all the great civil rights legislation of nineteen sixty eight", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh around here on the uh east coast uh we were heavy into affirmative action", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh that was a uh a great shock for a lot of people", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh a great disappointment for some people like myself", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i was gainfully employed by Safeway Stores Incorporated", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh trying desperately to uh get ahead with the company", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh the problem was that my hair was too long", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh that you weren't allowed to have a uh mustache or a beard and uh you know jeans just flat out weren't allowed unless you worked on night stock and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": " if you wanted to get ahead with the company well if you were a uh black female you were destined to be store manager in six to nine months if you were white male you're talking six years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and that's basically where i ended up i uh i just flat out couldn't get a hold you know [vocalized-noise] get ahead with the company because they were dead in affirmative action um ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "on other fronts um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and is the company now uh well represented uh demographically at the higher echelons did it work", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i think so i- i i i stopped working for them in uh seventy eight seventy nine", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh it's i think they're they're like all companies well represented and uh you know everything seems to be fine i i've kind of lost touch with the company we had a falling out but uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "as far as uh as their management goes um i'm not sure they're any any better off than they were were before management wise", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh other changes um just people seem to be more outspoken now individually rather than collectively um back in the seventies we had uh a lot of uh protests against the war and uh bring our troops home and things were more organized", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh i've noticed that now more and more individual people are speaking out for their own rights rather than massing together", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so there's less you think now there's less of a a social movement and more individual m[ovements]- lots of individual movements in a sense ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i'm not sure if that was because you know eighties was like the uh the me decade [vocalized-noise] and uh everybody was into me and then we are getting back into us but um it it ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the me decade uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's i've seen uh uh a great deal of change as far as um corporate responsibility and things um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and people's response to that you know at first not trusting and now expecting more", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and what ab[out]- what about the last ten years that you've been aware", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well that i've been aware of i've at least in my own circles i've been aware of an increasing from my generation i don't know if i can quite call myself a distinct generation from you but half generation off i guess um i've noticed uh a certain increase um pessimism with America no longer being sort of on top [vocalized-noise] i had the impression well i mean there was the quote unquote losing of the Vietnam war which was a blow and it was right around that time when i started becoming socially [vocalized-noise] you know a socially conscious adult and i realize that people of my age have no um no major success in the sense that uh you saw the passage of the Civil Rights Act and um major social change in that sense and i and all the changes that have happened in the last uh even during my adulthood have been more incremental they've been continual perhaps and good gains have been made but there hasn't been the same sort of fiery speeches of Martin Luther King or whatever that has really uh galvanized the population and there's just instead there's been sort of an increasing oh i don't know Japan bashing and things like that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh a lot of i see among some of my friends and even more among some of my students who are you know maybe twenty a real sense of you know America's losing it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and losing it in the competitive market and a real knowl[edge]- uh a lack of understanding how that could be and in the sense that how could America have gone from being number one to possibly being number two to you know our former enemies and things like that and um so i see i see a lot of uh a lot of pessimism growing um and at the same time i think there's there's there's a growing environmentalist movement and sense of corporate respons[ible]- increased corporate responsible towards uh you know environmental safety and things like that and that might potentially be sort of the civil right the equivalent of the Civil Rights Act in in the near future in terms of you know some real landmark bills passing and things like that such that you know people cause thing about civil rights is people take it for granted now i mean my generation doesn't can't rest on the the glow of having achieved civil rights because we were born into an assumption that you know yes there's still some racism but you know basically things are [vocalized-noise] the assumption things are basically kind of taken care of and there's a notion of fairness that um while still far from perfect is much more established i think ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes [vocalized-noise] but even uh i think uh along the line of the uh goals of civil rights um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "there always seems to be some prejudice to someone by anyone i mean you know [vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh of course [laughter] it's human nature [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know don't like the way you look don't like the way you dress don't like your hair don't you know it's just something that always sets people off you know you either like someone or you don't like someone or you're just completely indifferent ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and the problem is that ideally you they you know the world would like you to be completely indifferent so um but i- i i understand what you say about the environmental movement um it's it's been a long time coming um being a uh a very old hippie um [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yes [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i mean you know if you had long hair in high school in the sixties you got labeled a hippie and you keep that image your whole life [laughter] [vocalized-noise] no matter what you do and i- i just ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i've seen a lot of changes i mean from the original earth day", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and um i'm heavily involved in you know my own personal recycling we recycle paper and cans here at work and you know i do the newspaper and cardboard and paper and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know all that stuff at home and i'm starting to see more and more recycling centers cropping up all over the place here on the east coast", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh right and that's a real change except it sort of brings back to the nineteen forties more than anything [laughter-else] [laughter] i mean all this recycling used to be in tact or not all of it but much of it did i mean recycling was a was a wartime thing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah] like yeah and then they turned around and called them junkyards and started making profits off them after the war", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes [laughter-yes]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and now we got to the point where the junkyards you've got to pay them to take something there so things have really changed a lot i think the uh the other part about uh America's decline i think has to do with", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh a perceived decline anyway yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah the perceived decline has to do with uh um the attitudes and the educational system uh i have children in in s[chool]- i have three children in school right now and i'm not impressed with the teachers that are teaching them uh i had when i was down in Dallas for two years i had uh my children come home from school with papers that were corrected by the teacher that had words spelled correctly marked wrong", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and words spelled wrong not marked as such", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and this person's teaching my children", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know i had a real problem with that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well i'd i'd say actually i mean as someone who's involved in education i'd say that maybe one of the changes is that the role of the teacher has incrementally gotten lower and lower value and society i mean relative pay which is a major way we value people has been poorer and poorer over the years uh you know that there's been cost of living increases but not quite in proportion to cost of living and you know it's just more and more uh [vocalized-noise] a real low income sort of job and very low prestige i mean there's that that old saying those who can do it and those who can't teach this is the way of let's make fun of the teachers those are the people who can't do anything and if you have that kind of social attitude it's", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hard to get sufficient numbers of people who are going to overlook all of that work for lower pay work for low social prestige just because they care about good education", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and you get more and more people who would just end up there because it's uh it's the safety net of those of you know average intelligence or something they can always teach", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i'm not sure if your familiar with the movement they have here in Maryland but they're trying to get a uh a uh a merit system here in Maryland rather than a uh tenure system", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "for all the you know elementary middle school and high schools", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so that the teach", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "hello ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hello", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hi uh my name's Nicole", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hi Nicole i'm Mary Ann", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh where are you Mary Ann", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i'm in McKinney", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh you're [vocalized-noise] in Dallas [laughter] not very long distance [laughter] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i [laughter-see] [laughter-okay] no not at all and yet long enough if we were calling back and forth it would be a toll call [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] it would yes it [laughter-would] okay are you uh do you know about the topic ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh if if i understood correctly it was what what changes we might uh suggest or whatever for the justice system is that [laughter] perhaps above my head", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [vocalized-noise] uh justice system or and what we think about the judge uh changing it to so th[e]- the judge would do the conviction or no sentencing sentencing ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "sentencing and would all the jurors have to agree on okay that'd be a good place to start", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay all right i'm going to push one", "role": "user" }, { "content": "all right have you ever served on a on a jury trial", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes one time one time but we found him innocent so uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "was it was it a criminal", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes it was this guy bit another guy's finger [laughter-off]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay oh oh [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but he deserved it i probably would have bit his finger off too if he was trying to strangle me or beat me up you know if i could have gotten his hand in my mouth i'd have bit him just like this guy did he was scared he was a kid", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh my", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know and the guy was trying to beat him up this older teenager was shacking up with this guy's ex-wife or some[thing]- they were uh uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they were really in a mess and there were children involved and it was just terrible but i didn't think anybody you know they all deserved to go to jail [laughter-not] just the one guy you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh it really does sound like it was a self defense kind of thing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it really was he was trying to beat him up so you know we found him innocent so i really don't know what happens after you find them guilty i thought that the judge did do the sentencing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no i served on on both a criminal and a a civil um jury and in my criminal trial he pled guilty um to the first to to kidnapping and so we went through the the second part of the trial because_1 in Texas there are two parts first of all to find if they are guilty or innocent he already said he's guilty so then then we go through the trial to determine what uh punishment should be meted out", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so we still went through three days of of uh testimony and so forth and and witnesses saying oh he's an upstanding young man just weak and was led by another guy and so forth so we were the ones that that came up with the sentence and the judge gave us some parameters and said you know according to the law it can be no more or no le[ss]- uh no more or less than and he gave th[e]- the number of years and he said it would also include a a possible fine up to ten thousand dollars and and we had that's that took us six hours just to agree on what we thought was appropriate for this young man", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "good grief that would be hard to do you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um it wasn't the easiest thing i've done but nor nor was it hard to to us the young man had kind of taken care of it when he said he was guilty so we did not ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we didn't have to struggle at all with that it was now what's fitting and and we'd gone through you know all that so i- i don't know i thought that was easier than than trying to decide his guilt or innocence yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah whether he's guilty or n[ot]- yeah that's true", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i- i probably would not mind letting the judge do the sentencing as long as the jury of of peers were determining guilt or innocence for one thing we didn't know that the others involved in the trial had uh or i- or i mean had [vocalized-noise] involved in the crime had already come up for trial we couldn't know what had come of their uh sentencing ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and we couldn't know that until after we'd made our findings so it turned out we had done about what the other juries had done and so it you know we felt a little better but i think if that could be in the hands of of someone who knew the law and could be privy to that information seems like it would be fairer", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "is it different in different states do you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "since it's state uh laws yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because_1 i know on some at times the news you know and they say the judge gives the sentencing and so that's what i guess i thought it was that way everywhere being as i hadn't been all the way through you know anything like that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it n[ow]- now it may be on some Federal Laws you know i[t]- it this was a [laughter-we] were dealing with uh with the state laws not necessarily [vocalized-noise] not necessarily federal that may have something to do with it and it may be too that if it were um a capital crime", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "state yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh capital murder or something like that that that it may be different ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well i wouldn't oh that would be hard", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes it would", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it would be hard to sentence somebody to death if you weren't really really really sure you'd have to be really really really sure that he did it i mean really sure", "role": "user" }, { "content": "w[ell]- i had a friend who sat in on a or who was on a jury recently for a murder but the man was not being tried for capital murder and so that was not even an option uh the death penalty was not an option so and in in this case everyone on the jury felt that it should have [laughter-been] and they were very convinced the man had no redeeming uh qualities and couldn't be rehabilitated and they were they were really upset that he was getting off so lightly for the heinous crime that he had been involved in", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm real glad that i don't i [laughter] i [laughter-don't] work in that kind of a uh a back[ground]- background i'll take my job any day", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah think of the pressures", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know [laughter] i don't work with perfect people anymore than anybody else does but i can handle the imperfections that i'm around i- i could not work in the in the uh criminal area for very long as a as a police officer as uh someone who works for the court system or whatever", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so anyway back to the original question i really think i if if we were still allowed to choose guilt or innocence", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "w[ell]-", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'd be more than happy to let the judge determine the uh the sentencing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the sentencing yeah i- ag[ree]- i agree with you right i do agree with you i- i figure that it's been a couple of years now since i've served now so i'm i've been looking lately for mine [laughter] it's about time for me to get called up down there again", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i enjoy doing it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i do too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "as long as i get paid [laughter-well] now before i worked for TI and i didn't get d[ays]- uh time off for jury duty you know it was difficult", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] oh i bet", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because there are a lot of places that don't give you ti[me]- i mean they give you the time but not the pay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i see okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so you know you lose a day's pay and you [vocalized-noise] well you make eight dollars or [laughter-whatever] [laughter-it] [laughter-is] [laughter-you] know [laughter] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "big [laughter-deal] oh you make eight dollars now in Dallas County huh it's only seven fifty here in Collin [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think it's eight it might i- i don't remember", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it probably is which is about what it costs you to park your car right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well they send you a free bus ticket and i use it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh do they oh okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so you know i come out pretty good on it i mean i ge[t]- and plus my TI money i come out real good on it [laughter-now] the last one i served on i was working at TI and so i got time off for it but i was working third shift and that made it a little difficult", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to decide", "role": "user" }, { "content": "y[eah]- i- i can see how that would be difficult", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah to decide which day to take off and you know do you take off th[e]- day", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] before you go oh that would be tough", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "after you go or before you [laughter-go] so it was tough so but anyway well i don't have much more to say about it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um what about the other suggestion that they had that uh about the ju[ry]- all the jury agreeing on the senten[cing]- do you feel that that is a requirement", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think if anybody has a doubt you need to yeah i do feel that yes i really do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that the[re]- there should be a[greement]- agreement", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think i do too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because someone might see something that you don't see i mean you know they may have they may have picked up on something that gave them that doubt that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know yeah i really think everybody needs to agree", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's it's it's so easy anyway for everybody to just kind of become a yes man and get carried up along with the emotions and so if there's somebody who's strong enough to stand up with a specific doubt i would a whole lot rather go through the expense of another trial because of a hung jury than that a justice not be meted out correctly", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": " so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": " i agree with boy it's really easy [laughter] to discuss something when you both agree [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah] well you know that i mean i you have to agree on this almost i would think can't imagine not agreeing that everybody should agree on a jury i- i- i don't know on ou[rs]- when we we all really agreed on this did you all have any disagreements when you were doing the sentencing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well it took us six hours to reach agreement yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i can't remember how many it didn't take us but an hour i think or an hour and a half we were all pretty i think we had one man in there that uh wanted to find him guilty because he kept saying he did it then we kept saying he did it [laughter-but] the other guy you know y[eah]- we had to convince him that um you know that yes he did it but he wasn't guilty he didn't need to go to jail for doing it that was you know he did it he admitted he [vocalized-noise] that he bit that guys finger but he did it in self defense so you know we just didn't feel that he needed ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah apparently you all were successful in uh convincing him at last", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes finally we di[d]- it didn't take", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well um discussing air pollution today i guess", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um uh well [laughter] give me your first impressions", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh i don't kn[ow]- [laughter-there's] a lot of air [laughter-pollution]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um i think industries and companies provide a lot of it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and with uh i guess with the oil burning over in Kuwait and stuff that would have a lot of air pollution in it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh puts a whole yeah gets a whole new picture to what [laughter] real air pollution can be but uh that stuff going on over there wha[t]- what uh what part of Pennsylvania are you in", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um i'm north of Pittsburgh so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "o[kay]- okay okay so it's i[t's]- it's amazing too you know y[ou]- with that with the oil wells burning over there that's that's the exact same stuff that's coming out of cars every day just in uh just in a little different grade i guess", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh in Dallas we've got we've just uh brought in a whole new set of uh requirements on inspections and things like that for cars because uh people just don't use mass transit and stuff in Dallas everybody loves their car and you see an awful lot of uh one person vehicles on the road on during rush hours that seems to be our biggest problem down here um you know there's uh there's a lot of industry around but uh it's not it's any pollution that industry's dumping around here is not going into the air it's typically water [laughter] type situation", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah um we have a couple we have like a steel mill and a couple refineries and stuff and i know there's a lot of air pollution going in there and like they they get fined whenever they do the air pollution but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the fine is nothing you know it's like nothing to them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it's it's yeah like like two hours of output or something like that yeah that's true that's true", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i uh i grew up in South Dakota so i was never [laughter] i was never exposed to anything of of the of the sort um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "there were always the EPA people and what not were always telling us that uh farm chemicals and what not were destroying our water system and all that but we just we just never saw the results uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "there was there was dust in the air during uh planting seasons and what not but uh that that was all we ever saw and then five years ago i i moved to Dallas and i suddenly start to understand what uh burning eyes uh and all that stuff is about that i'd always heard about it uh it's it gets it's real depressing um in the morning sometime uh just y[ou]- you can tell if it's a good day or a bad day by uh how far out from downtown uh y[ou]- you can be on the road and still not see it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh my God [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-and] uh you know i mean it's not uh i don't think Dallas is considered uh a a real bad place for for air pollution but you you can tell you can tell the differences in the days when it's when the haze is kind of yellowish gray instead of just being a a foggy misty color", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh it it's a little it's a little disappointing sometimes that you start to realize what you're breathing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh yeah but i don't know what they can do to really prevent it you know like how c[an]- what can they [laughter-do] about the oil burning over in Kuwait what you know i mean they fine the the industries but you know that doesn't seem to stop them there i don't know what else they can do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right i[t's]- it's that there really isn't a whole lot i[t's]- it's one of those uh it's one of those things that if they do a little bit and uh and e[very]- you know e[very]- every little bit does help i i do believe that um but i also believe that uh the earth is is a kind of a self-regulating system and uh it will clean itself up eventually it the whole idea is not to not to push the limit too hard i guess l[et]- let the you know let the natural natural systems take care of the problem as much as possible", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah i i yeah i just don't understand you know what else anyone can do about it i don't think it's something that people really think about either", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know it's i mean i it it should probably be a big issue you know because_1 i[t's]- it's doing a lot of damage but i it's something you know i don't think many people really think about it because it's nothing they i don't think we really have too much control over it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right and it's one of those things i[t's]- i[t's]- it's so hard to measure uh wh[at]- what what the damage is it's it's kind of like uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i guess it's kind of like kind of like cigarette smoking you know i[t]- it it it could go on for years and years until they they s[tart]- start to see some results and people can actually actually say yeah it's it's it's doing it's doing some damage and and something's got to be done", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um there's you know there's a lot of things like that i[t]- it it you can uh you can pound on something for a long time before it finally breaks but until it breaks you don't really know that there [laughter] you were doing anything to it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah exactly", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i really don't [laughter-know] too much else about it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well that's it you know i i i think we both agree it's it's one of those deals that uh i just think there's a lot of other problems right now and uh we've done a lot to take care of it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah we have tried i mean you know and um i i know where you know where a couple of the mills that have i kn[ow]- i know they put things on their stacks you know to filter the smoke and do all kinds of things but i mean every now and then it breaks you know and and you just got smoke going out into the air for a day or two till you can get it fixed and stuff", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh sure sure", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so you know it's something we we have tried to help but yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh there's no doubt about i don't know if you if you ever happened to see uh some of the like Twenty Twenty and what not about uh Romania and East Germany when they first got pictures out of there about how some of their uh systems had been running for twenty and thirty years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh you know they absolutely no regulations no controls whatsoever and they had destroyed entire forests and what not just because the air was so polluted that's that's the kind of things that uh you don't see in this country and that's that's why i think that you know i[t's]- it's i don't know if you can ever do enough but uh i think it's all relative to the to the time and place and i think right now it's it's it's pretty much under control", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah] okay well um-hum it's been nice talking to you ye[ah]- okay bye-bye ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "all righty well you bet bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": " feel about this ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i've i've seen all kinds of carnage and i'm very much in favor of laws to restrict the access to guns", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i am too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i you know i cannot understand the the argument on the other side", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i- i hear the argument of um you don't have anything to protect yourself with and and all this that i just i don't know i don't know there's a guy at work you know that's trying to get a gun for his wife because she works in a divorce type position and she's scared that somebody might turn on her sometime and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'm like why do people need guns in their desk at work i just don't understand that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't understand either now there prob[ably]- there probably are cases of certain occupations certain actually certain individuals in certain occupations who would", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but right um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "for whom that may be legitimate uh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but there whole countries where guns are banned uh i think in the United Kingdom and then in Japan", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "where the homicide rates are far far lower than the United States i don't see how it possibly", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "makes sense for us to have all these guns lying about", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i don't either and you can go to a store and pick out which one you want and just you know it's it's weird to have something like that you know i've never been a hunter or been around anything like that that um there have been guns in the house or anything like that and to see those kids having you know like you see on the news these kids like are you in Dallas or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum no i'm in Washington", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "in Washington okay well we just had an acci[dent]- accident here that um a fifteen year old got into a f[ight]- uh you know like you always do in school high school you know you always had little fights with kids", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah um-hum yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well he had a fight with a kid and his older brother who's eighteen came to the school and shot the kid", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and killed him and i'm like what in the [laughter-world] are these kids and then they confiscated twenty three guns from that high school out of lockers and it's like i just can't understand why these kids have guns", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's a[mazing]- that's amazing yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's just awful", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah well it happens a lot around here too um in fact maybe even worse in terms of frequency", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to see something like that does it uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh drive by shootings in high schools are you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah we had quite a few drive by shootings recently with buses of um you know that public transportation buses and like i think two people were killed during that when they were having just kids were driving by and shooting out the windows", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh and then we had that killing you know in Killeen i don't know if you heard about that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes i uh everybody heard about that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter-i] [laughter-think] [laughter-so] and that happened and that was something else and", "role": "user" }, { "content": " yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so", "role": "user" }, { "content": " so i'm i'm i think on the scale at the one end you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'd i'd be close to the eight nine and ten area", "role": "user" }, { "content": "w[ait]- wait i thought i- i eight nine ten was no restrictions", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i thought ten was the be[st]- oh i'm sorry", "role": "user" }, { "content": "whatever whatever we're down at the same end whatever end that is", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] heavy duty restrictions [laughter] that's i feel in favor for because you just can't be handing these things out to anybody", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and and you're getting them_1 sold to people and then they're getting into the wrong hands", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah would you somehow get them away from those who already have them_1", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what's that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "would you somehow disarm those who are already armed", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "how would you do that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um do y[ou]- you know do they don't they have records of the people who own the um guns that were bought isn't there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "in many cases not uh because many cases they're [vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i know it", "role": "user" }, { "content": " they're stolen um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right underground type", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] i- i have no idea what the statistics are on that but um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "underground type uh selling of guns", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i don't know how you know it's gonna it's gonna have to happen [laughter-sometime] but it right now there hasn't been a way", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah i don't i don't [vocalized-noise] know this for a absolute fact but i have the suspicion that the gun industry that manufactures", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "these things and also those who dealers who sell them are a major force behind the NRA and all these campaigns that that stir people up and try to get them to uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum to uh not ban them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah t[o]- t[o]- to right to oppose them_1", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it [vocalized-noise] because_1 they have an economic reason over and above whatever their their private preferences are", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh sure um-hum yeah it it's a tough thing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "until the thing has to be won on an economic ground too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so there has to be some way to compensate those who lose and um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so that they don't keep you know saying don't ban so um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it's it's tough i don't know what they're gonna do and you know i there's got to be a way to get them_1 out of the hands of and plus for them to when they do have them_1 to you know they keep them_1 in these areas where their kids can get to them_1 and and hurt so you know and they're young enough they don't even know what they're playing with they're playing with something they saw on TV", "role": "user" }, { "content": "if um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh you know it's it's not safe at all for um the kids in the home even because_1 they don't keep them_1 under lock and key anyway they keep them_1 in their top drawer or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and then they say well if we unload them then how are we gonna have time to load them_1", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": " okay i'll let you start do you all keep a budget and how do you hold to yours [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no i- i never keep a budget my budget or philosophy i guess is is spend as little as possible", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum well that's that's good [laughter] especially for these times", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh and it's it's sort sort of always worked", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh but that depends on you know on the individual if they can [laughter] i guess have self control", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well that's a lot of it uh i know we tried several different ways one time we tried something that really worked but we didn't keep it up i passed it on to a friend and she won't quit doing it she loves it and that was the envelope system", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "where you go ahead and decide about how much based on what you did last month that you are going to spend and you put the cash in envelopes marked for that so you have one for entertainment and one for groceries and et cetera and then for some reason taking it out of that envelope and seeing it in cash instead of in check form uh causes you to realize how much is left and she even writes down on the envelope as she subtracts and kind of debits on each envelope what she's buying and then at the end of the of the period pay period", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "if she has any left that much is for fun or entertainment and they kind of work it that way we tried for a while and it seems like the problem that we were having of all the of all the things that worked was not planning enough for the incidentals that we couldn't think about", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and those are the ones that will kill you you know the accident the accidental fee or the car repair or the things that weren't supposed to be every month", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well yeah i- i couldn't probably be bothered d[oing]- doing that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh that's what i mean it was a hassle [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "every month and and every since uh well we've been married almost thirty years now but um m[y]- my husband got paid once a month", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so [laughter] you learn to get th[rough]- [laughter] you learn to get through you know to the end of the month and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-that's] that's kind of hard [laughter] but do you sort of self budget even though i mean you wouldn't like on payday think boy i can go do this and that and this and that you kind of think this is got to straight you kind of divide it in fourths in a way don't you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no no because if you charge things and uh you pay all your bills at the beginning of the month when you get paid or you get paid the last day or next to the last day you pay all your bills then there isn't anything left to spend anyway", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right right well that's true what we're in the process of doing right now is paying off our credit cards entirely", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and we're going to go ahead and try to just live on what we earn instead of guessing ahead of what we probably will have next [laughter-month]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well yeah we we tried to to", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-and]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "t[o]- or we are paying them_1 off now or there was a time when maybe we didn't pay all of them_1 off but you just sort of had to watch what you put in because you you hate to pay those finance charges when you see how much it is", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah we're not there yet um-hum uh-huh that's right that's right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and for most of uh i mean i'm a substitute teacher and i've only substituted i guess for the last fifteen years so there's only been really one working and uh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um um-hum same here yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it it works for me but i can't see that it it would work for probably the majority of people", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i could say it's kind of you know that's that's good you may you probably have a little extra than you have to have to you know what i'm saying and so that that's the difference there where sometimes like i know if we've had an especially bad month and we're just almost getting down to payday", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "then i think if we could really budget we tried one ti[me]- i know when we were planning to buy the new car and we hadn't had a car payment in five years we had to go ahead and write down each month what it was that every penny went for to see how much was gonna be left and that was a real eye opener", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah um-hum it it is when you do it that way", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] [laughter] uh-huh but to to have lived by that every week would have been tough for me because_1 sometimes i'll spend less on groceries but we'll go out so it's kind of hard to say this is how much you're gonna spend going out for fun this is how much you're gonna spend it's kind of hard do you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well we we eat out a a good deal at this point i- i started subbing just to go on a vacation and saved all that money so because i knew that you couldn't you know spending five thousand dollars on a vacation or whatever we were gonna go for ten weeks", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah right [laughter] right oh how nice", "role": "user" }, { "content": "ah in nineteen eighty so i started working in nineteen eighty seven and just saved for three years but the [laughter-what] minuscule amount i made but that way you just didn't put it on your credit card and and it was paid for", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh [laughter] with well that's g[ood]- and it made a big and you enjoyed it better probably yeah [vocalized-noise]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes and so i think that that's difficult for most people but then my father was very Scotch and you know you never could afford anything although he could afford everything if he wanted to um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think so too so if you're out like in a department store and there's a sale you're just real careful not to let your urges get hold of you that that's excellent that's what i'm working toward i think you're probably much ahead of me there and i'm working on it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes and i never worried about saving money because we just we're in the savings plan at work and they took it out so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "same here same here and i think though that we need to have some liquid around that you don't have to go through the company to get [laughter] you know yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i uh um-hum well we never had too much of that but then we never had any really emergencies that uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that came up yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and we didn't buy really new or expensive cars i think the most my we're looking at cars now uh we ever spent for a new car was like six thousand dollars", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they were mainly used cars", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well that's the best thing to do my husband said the other day it was the worst mistake we ever did to buy a new car because it wasn't worth it from the day after so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah so you know we've been [laughter-rather] rather frugal in that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "rather frugal well that that's gonna payoff on retirement yeah well it uh i guess we've completed do you think we've been here ten", "role": "user" }, { "content": "in that respect yeah well ea[ch]- each time they used to call in and tell me their space is limited and to please uh", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "push my number okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay so are you a a a golfer or are you a spectator", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i'm a i play golf but i don't actually play golf", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i'm the same way i i go out there and hit the ball", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah hack it all over the place it's sickening isn't it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah um uh well in the Carolina's it's it's just you know we've got a bunch of golf courses around here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah we've got tons up here but i don't know how do you feel about your game i guess that's a good question", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh well i mean i'm not a serious golfer at all uh uh a friend of mine goes golfing a lot and he drags me out every now and then and i uh i don't have a i don't really even have a game i usually when i go out and play golf it's usually like at a at one of these par threes that you know you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but um i like watching it on TV", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i like that too i don't know i try to play but God i a couple years ago i played two three times a week and got lousy i guess that's the best i ever got was lousy", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i thought i was really improving and the big break was going to come and then i got worse again so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i i i if i can i can hit a great deal like um uh they they my friends to get me they they say i hit worm burners because i i can't hit it up in the [laughter-air] so i'm pretty bad but i i i get great distance hitting it you know uh for it going across the ground", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and if it's going over water or something one of them have to take the shot for me because i'm but i'm getting better i've got where now i can hit it in in the air some of the time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum that's pretty good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh so i'm kind of a novice at it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um i'm that at worse i i play next year i actually i take it kind of seriously but i've been doing so bad next year i always say this every year but next year i'm starting over from scratch i'm going to go take lessons and everything i'm going to do it right and see if i can actually play this game or not", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well that i i guess that's what i need to do is is get some kind of lessons or something because i my my tee off is not bad i mean i'm i'm good up to everything else putting and stuff like that it's just that that initial tee [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah what do you do when you're putting that's a good thing that's something i could learn actually that's when i do my worst i finally get to the green and i think i'm doing all all fine and then", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] just walking around the hollow and making sure there's [vocalized-noise] not really you know checking the ground and and [vocalized-noise] so forth you know see how it's going to break or whatever ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah can you really see it though what about the speed", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah if you get if you get down on the ground you really can", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "can you tell ho[w]- nah but can you tell how how fast you're going to hit it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um well if you know if it's up on a slope that you've got to hit it not kill it but you've got to hit enough speed and the right angle that it's it's you know because when it's going up a hill it's going to break in a direction", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah but you can feel that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't know i have i can ge[t]- get it within like you know four or five feet or something but i don't have enough field now i'm TV watching they make you die at the hole every time oh it just dies and rolls in", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't know it's hard for me", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but i the the it's it's like i said once i get up on the green i'm fine but that that tee shot uh it [vocalized-noise] you know when teeing off uh it i'll go probably a hundred feet across the ground so it it takes me awhile to get to the hole but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "once you're there you're all set though", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm all set [vocalized-noise] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we should play team golf then i'll get us there and you put it in", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] that sounds good to me that it's uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i s[ee]- oh the TV golfers they do that it takes them two to get there and two to get it in so it's fifty percent and me it takes me five to get there and five to get it in", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well it it it usually takes me about probably two to to or three to get it there and and then that's according to the hole and it ju[st]- uh uh o[ne]- maybe one or two putts it's according to where i'm at on the green ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but the friends i play with uh they play all the time and and they're really good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "Joe Pros", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh they're not Joe Pros but uh they they golf in the high sixties low seventies so i guess they're pretty good [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's pretty good for eighteen", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah for eighteen", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "wow that's pretty good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'm talking to the wrong guy your shitty golf is probably the best golf i've ever seen", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no no no that's not my golf that's my friends mine mine i'm i'm usually in the eighties or nineties so i'm i'm not good [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "if when i'm in the nineties i'm feeling good i'm usually around a hundred that's my thing around a hundred you know i can hit a great drives and think i'm going to do all awesome on this hole but it ain't going to happen", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i either [vocalized-noise] teeing off i either slice it or i hook it ever single time and and i alternate ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well it's a good thing with me i slice it every single time that's good i aim", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "about how many calls have you made on this system", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i've originated only a a few", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but i've received quite a few", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i uh i only started doing it after uh i started getting calls and said oh heck that's right i'm supposed to make a few calls so i started about month ago and i this is getting close to twenty here which i think is about all", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh our little gift book goes up to but i don't really know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i've got about twelve tickets in the mail do you have you've [vocalized-noise] a few", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i've been getting mine", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay uh medical go ahead i'm [vocalized-noise] i'm medical that's mine", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh you pushed the record button we're supposed to be discussing the subject", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i i'm benefits go ahead you first", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh well i'll tell you i've been around for quite a few years and worked for a lot of different companies and uh it's hard to beat any of the benefits that or salaries either", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that we get from TI i'm quite pleased with it course there's a few things that uh i think i could do better if i was sitting up in the CEO's seat but um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think Jerry's doing a pretty good job as it goes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the one [vocalized-noise] it's kind of like uh automobile insurance the ones uh that i think are the highest and important to me uh i hope i never have to use them really per se although i've used medical a little bit uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that well that one certainly is high i i worry that it's weakening rather than strengthening so i like to reverse that trend and say i'd like to get those to strengthen you know be better and better then sal[ary]- sal[ary]- salary continuance i've never used that one i hope i never will but that's kind of like an insurance thing i sure like that one", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well [vocalized-noise] ah yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's like automobile insurance you never want to get in an accident but it you like to have it there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum well uh like i say i worked for several different companies and there's nothing to compare with uh TI here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "now i really got caught up back in eighty five i got caught up in the oil layoff uh i wasn't with GSI but i was connected with uh uh oil uh exploration", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right with TI or somebody else", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no with TI", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but i say i wasn't connected with GSI", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh right yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i got caught up in a layoff now", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh course you get six months uh unemployment from the state", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but what TI did for us is is uh i i've never heard of it before they fixed us up with an office with uh telephones access to long distance uh computers a secretary to take messages for us or type uh letters for us", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh they had out of town newspapers and then the co[mpany]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and outside consultants didn't they have an outside consultant too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i beg your pardon", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "did they have an outside consultant like a", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh yes they they did have uh seminars every once in a while", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the employ[ee]- yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh cause that was not uh restricted just to just us", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but the most important thing was that uh they had made up the difference between uh unemployment pay and seventy five percent of my net pay and they then TI paid me that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so uh i was able to uh not just exist i mean i i lived just as comfortably as i did before i was laid off", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah they seem to be do[ing]- doing a good job of that i'm in facilities an[d]- and our organization [vocalized-noise] built builds those facilities over in Park Central now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i guess they've been using them for six months now and i've known several engineers that got laid off and they said it's like getting a PhD almost they the much they learn over there you know after they've been laid off uh one engineer said it was really an education he he just learned like you he said he learned a tremendous amount that he never would have able to pick up on his own he was very thankful for that too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well this was not a learning thing by any means it was just a uh uh an assistance trying to find another job", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to have an office yeah yeah well he said he learned so much and how he thought he thought he had a PhD in how to get a job after he was through the whole process for for several months he did eventually get a job", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh uh-huh well course i went through this uh what about five years ago they may have improved it considerably", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah apparently it's very sophisticated and i guess it may be one of the best uh that anyone's doing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well that's one of those little uh uh little extras that you don't see in the uh the the the handbook you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right you're absolutely right that's a good one", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what do you think about pensions anything on that or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well now i have uh uh i'm getting close to retirement", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and of course i've been looking into it but uh since i'm only a yellow badger i won't be getting a whole heck of a lot from TI as far as retirement is concerned", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum right what do you think of a pension that goes from one company to the other like an account like a 401[K]- account i i've been thinking about that for years uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i've never heard of such a thing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know that's what i'm saying that that pensions you see just like you were you're saying you've only got uh so many years say you work for two three companies if you take your pension with you after you're vested", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and then just add the money together like you do with a 401[K]- account you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh it's your account period it doesn't matter where you go or anything that's your account to roll over", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i that that sounds like a hell of an idea i didn't know there was such a thing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no no there isn't i i'm saying that's the question what do you think could be better and i'm saying that pensions say in the year two thousand or more when social security goes away which it probably will i think they ought to have a pension at least that you'd never lose you work for a company seven years", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes by all means well what would be the difference between that and social security", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh well social security's going to go to way i think and you can or you can invest your own money you have no control over your social security and it's not paid for by the current like when say we retire after the year two thousand social security's paid for by the twenty five year olds you know they may rebel and you won't have any social security where if your money was in your account i mean you can never lose it it's there you don't have to depend on anybody to be putting that money in for you you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's just a thought i mean i", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh no i i like the idea course that's that's some something like an IRA", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "if they say which yeah yeah and instead of having a a socialized pension it just would be really money that you and your company maybe you had to put some money in it too i don't really know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i i can see where they'd need to do something on that because the statistics are you don't work for a company twenty years through no fault of your own you know you work for five six seven and y[ou]- y[ou]- a lot of people i know guys", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah that that's what i've done i i've bounced around about every ten years i change", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i have too but not not quite that often but uh yeah i've only got uh i've got fourteen now here at TI and i hope to make twenty five but say if something happened to me i mean you know they lay me off uh you have a pension but then you'd have to try to get a pension in another one it would be nice if they could get them together", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i do worry about medical though again knock wood that uh i haven't used it i guess you i'm sorry you really do use it throughout the year because you get your teeth fixed and all that i mean i but i'm not i'm talking about major items i haven't used it for anything major", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'm glad it's there though", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well knock wood i haven't used mine any[thing]- for anything major just doctor visits and well i i have the uh the Homa i use Homa", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i like that uh a lot better than Aetna", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i have the regular i again i ju[st]- i haven't i can't complain about it because i haven't used it and every time i needed it it it's uh it's uh you know ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "fallen right in line for the the minor things i guess i'm the one just supporting most of the others", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well doesn't it work that you don't see uh uh anything until you spend the minimum don't you have to spend the minimum of two three hundred", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh yeah yeah i think it's two seventy five for a family but the dental is right away if you exams uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well now i have the same dental you have", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay yeah the medical you have to have a deductible", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh now see i don't have a deductible", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i pay a straight five dollars for anything a doctor visit or drugs", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well drugs are okay now i'm on that uh plan where i take blood pressure medicine if you take an allergy medicine so anything you need a prescription for for more than six months you get it for used to be six bucks they just raised it to twelve", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh that one i haven't heard about", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's a typical that's a typical one that's in there the forms are right in personnel", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "fact you may be able to take care of take advantage of that it's through Baxter Labs uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i have high blood pressure problems myself", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well maybe you still can do that do you do you buy your pills one at a time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "eve[ry]- thirty days at a time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well turn turn in your forms go right to personnel i don't know whether you have to about an HMO i don't think so you turn you get your doctor to give you a more than six months prescription and uh they're twelve dollars again they just were six they just raised them to twelve this year twelve dollars for a three months supply", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "or whatever whatever the the amount is uh i don't want to say three months but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's a lot cheaper allergy medicine's really uh expensive and that blood pressure medicine is fairly expensive i take two go right to personnel they got the forms in personnel and maybe i maybe i've told you go something that you didn't know about in benefits [laughter-there]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um yeah [vocalized-noise] yeah i just might do that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i do it yeah i you know it's a very common thing it's through Baxter Labs tell yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well thanks thanks for the tip Jim i i shall look into it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah what else i'm sure we're getting close to our five minutes whatever here", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] uh let's see we discussed uh uh medical and dental", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what other benefits", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh retirement", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah the salary continuation i think that's a great one but again a hope i never use that one that means you're really sick if you have to use that one", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh what about vacation", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'm satisfied with the vacation i don't know what else you know you nice to say you get another week", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and when i'm well i only got fourteen years so i'll get another week when i hit fifteen", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh yeah that's right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so that's that's fair i mean it's reasonable if four weeks is a lot i think i know some people who have twenty five years and thirty and they want more but uh you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i'm uh i'm here i've got just eleven years and i don't think i'll ever see a a silver badge i won't i won't be around that long", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum well the way things go i think i'm going to have to work till i'm seventy five whether i quit and uh uh or when i retire get a part-time job", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "so do you exercise", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i just started about uh two months ago consistently doing it um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] well that's good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i uh i walk jog three times a week for about an hour", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah so i've just gotten up to um being able to jog one and a half to two miles and then um about mile and a half of walking", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i do a lot of walking at work because_1 i'm outside a lot so [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh oh okay what kind of work do you do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm in the Air Force", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i'm outside a lot i work on airplanes so i do a lot of walking there [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah okay_1 so you consider that your exercise", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh but i need to work on getting into an exercise program really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hum what kind of exercise program would you think you might want to get into", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh just basically the the uh uh up my uh you know heart rate and respiration and stuff just to keep it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "going because_1 i've noticed i've been getting a little tired lately", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "maintain it oh well what kind of things do you like to do like um do you like to run or play a sport or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i kind o[f]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "bicycle ride", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i kind of like bicycle riding and and running a little bit i don't you know really particular like running but [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah [laughter] well it's kind of hard on the joints ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "there's a lot of other things to do ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "bicycle riding is pretty good for you ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you don't have to put any um shock no it doesn't shock your joints or there's no pounding or anything", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah so you think you might get an exercise bicycle", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i might i got a a regular bicycle out in the", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "out in the garage but it's it's been kind of raining and stuff around here lately so there ain't been much of a chance to go riding a bicycle [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah that's the problem with with that is like if you wanna be consistent and then the weather's bad you can't really or get out when it's cold or whatever", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah so i have an exercise bike at home but i don't use it [laughter] it just kind of sits there in the corner", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter] yeah but you got a good exercise program going on it looks like", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but yeah and the reason that i'm doing it is because i have a friend doing it with me otherwise i wouldn't have the motivation", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah so your motivation is having somebody do it with you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well it's you know i'm a student and i'm in school all day and i'm really tired the end of the day and a lot of times i just wanna go home", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know and and eat [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but knowing that my friend's waiting for me you know i meet her at the stadium where we work out um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it makes me go and then after i do it i i'm glad i went and i enjoy it and i have more energy yeah after you do it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so and we encourage each other so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well i went on a trip once and me and the the guy i went with we went to the gym three times a week and worked out so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that's great", "role": "user" }, { "content": "tha[t]- i got into that and then when i got back home i just couldn't keep into it because_1 [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know it's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's hard you let other things get in the way and and the you're busy", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah and if you have a family and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i got one son and he kind of keeps me a little busy around the house and [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it's kind of hard to it's like you have to schedule a time and stick to it but it's hard when", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you don't have somebody to do it with you it's easy to just say well i'm not gonna do it today but i'll do it tomorrow and then you never do it [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah that's and plus my work schedule because_1 there's times i go in at all different hours and it's kind of hard to keep a steady", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum oh yeah that would be tough", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's what hurts me a lot about getting into a exercise program", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah well maybe you can you can um i don't know do a lot of walking like you are and do calisthenics or something i don't know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "or get an exercise bike and in the house", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well i've been looking at them uh Nordic Tracks", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i hear they're supposed to be pretty good huh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh yeah i have a friend that has one and she said it's really really good it works a lo[t]- a lot of your muscles", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh she just does it thirty thirty minutes three times a week", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and that's not too much time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no not really well that's part of what the brochure said too you know twenty thirty minutes a day and or three times a week or however", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah um-hum you see if you just keep that up you know that's not too much time and then i bet it'll really improve your you know your cardiovascular system and and all of that because_1 they say even if you just do that it increases", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "your life span i don't know how much but", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": " -[o]kay ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh go ahead", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what are we supposed to discuss again", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] AIDS research is something that that i think th[at]- whether our country is putting enough money into it and actually i'm concerned that they're not", "role": "user" }, { "content": "more money less", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i have a friend who is working with uh who works with uh travel groups and one of the ones that he's w[orked]- worked with was professionals who came in for an AIDS uh conference in uh California", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and these were from other people from other countries he's a translator", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and in talking to the people from France he said you know he says one of the things that really concerns me is your government's not telling you enough about how pervasive and frightening this epidemic is and they're letting the information out slowly about how", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hm", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know how big it is which is scary you know it's pretty scary when so many people get it so i guess i'm i'm i'd like to see us spend more i don't know that spending more always gets it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i'm i'm ambivalent about it because um uh it uh well it is very frightening and scary i have no perspective on how it relates to other diseases and uh i mean whether", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you mean more money for that means less for cancer or y[eah]- yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes and uh whether those diseases can yo[u]- some difference could be made if you did pour more money in like diabetes research uh didn't uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know but i uh then part of it's lack of education i don't know whether whether you know where our money would be most effectively spent", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well it i i agree with you there because i know every time that i[t]- i[t]- something comes into vogue all the money goes to that one and you don't know whether it's still also going to the other or if it's a limited pie", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "money from money for taking care of the infants takes money away from taking care of the elderly or do they both get served uh that's a good point", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i'm i am concerned a lot about uh i'm concerned about uh two things one is preventing the spread and the other is for uh for uh treating the illness", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i'm not certain i i again this i'm telling you basically i don't have any opinion but whether or not it would be uh our money would be better spent uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "teaching you know working on the drug problems and the and the sex problems uh rather than trying to cure the people that already have it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well and one of the things i'd and i'm with you that i don't know is is that really the only way it's being transmitted or was that the easier way to tell us and we're going to find out more", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well you know the d[entist]- whether my dentist or [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh that's that's the part that [laughter] that's the part that scares me you know i mean beginning with this is this is just for homosexuals well no it's for homosexuals and gays well no actually it's i mean you know did they know that all along", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and i heard something the other day this sounds ridiculous about mosquitoes and you know they've been saying oh no absolutely not can't get it from mosquitoes and uh and now they're saying well maybe in the right conditions yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-oh]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i don't know that's true or not i mean i just heard it in passing but so what does that what does that mean for people that you work with and shake hands with and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right [laughter] and how is it really transmitted et cetera which is i think what they also don't know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean that's i think they they told us what was convenient and felt safe to say you know it was nice to isolate it to one particular community that they have trouble", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know they just as soon not approve of anyway but but that isn't how it was in Africa", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "in Africa was the men and women and and had nothing to do with that and it's huge over there so i i you know and it's beginning to other countries that's was his point this was an international conference", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "where people are saying well but in my country it's you know like this and does that mean like flus", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean i don't know [laughter] all i'm saying is i think it's scarier than we know uh or maybe they understand but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think maybe more information should be given out about it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah and uh and then the people that have it it does seem that there are are some drugs that are there that you know they keep holding back if you if i were dying i'm not sure i would care", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i i give me cyanide i mean [laughter-is] it [vocalized-noise] [laughter] uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah] [laughter-right] [laughter] i'll take anything you know i mean if i'm dying if i know i'm dying you can experiment on me go ahead", "role": "user" }, { "content": "r[ight]- exactly and why can't you why can't the FDA say you know i[f]- if these people knowingly consent to be research monkeys and well let them_1 let them_1 do it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "ye[ah]- exactly yeah yeah and that's i think what they're saying too", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": " okay_1 you want to tell me first how you feel about", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well um i- i just think the way that things are going that um that it would be good for young people to go ahead and have um dedicate themselves to at least something", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the proposal uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i know like the Mormon religion you know they require two years of service uh missionary service uh right the boys", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the boys not the girl just the boys", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and um so but i think it would be good if for all young people you know to be able to to do something like that um so that um you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i- i- i don't know i just feel it would be good for them_1 to do that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum i- i thought it would be good too but i did not think it would be good that they all do something like the Peace Corps", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because not all young people would have uh what it takes to go like that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because_1 i think it takes a certain person to to be able to do something like that but there's a lot of other public service things that could be done", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh sure oh yeah and and even in even in our home towns there's a lot of um public service things that they could do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh you know drug rehabilitation and and alcohol and and just uh helping old people and um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh you know helping cripple just helping somebody else and i think that art of giving is something that um we don't have very much any more", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes yeah uh-huh yeah i think it would be [vocalized-noise] when they say this proposal is this something that they're just suggesting or are they actually wh[y]- wh[y]- why did they call it a proposal that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i- i think they just gave it a title but it's it's not something that's um in legislation or in works um uh yeah no no it's not it's just a just a topic but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh that's what i wondered what it'd be a good character builder", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i- i think so too i think so too um because there's so many um kids who have uh you know so much money and so much free time and uh nothing to do um a[nd]- and nothing to give their time to", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um they don't even have a direction to give their their time to so i think it would be really good for people to um to be able to give their time i[n]- in uh some kind of public service uh even in our government", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know as uh aids to uh you know Congress uh people", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so um yeah it would be uh it'd be really good i think", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum well people that are um have received sentences in jail they have uh some of them are going out and doing uh they have to go out and do public service activities which to me is is good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh right oh yeah oh yeah i agree with you yeah this is something that um like you say it's it's character building um you know learning how to to give to others and being less selfish and um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum well i think sometimes it gives you a better picture of what some of the other people live like you know what what some of the other parts of the world are like or even other parts of the neighborhood uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum right um-hum um-hum yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "some of the people how they live or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i agree with you i agree with you and and i think uh young people are so um uh focused just on themselves and their activities and whose going out with whom et cetera that uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know to get a taste of what the real world is actually about uh you know doing that that public service would be great yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum um-hum yeah because_1 that's one thing that's hard with young people y[ou]- you can't tell them how things are they have to see for themselves and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "now of course this might be after they've gone through their teen years i don't know what their thought is on what age that this should be done", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah i would think so like right after um high school you know e[ven]- even if it was like the the the their um that summer right after high school you know three months", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh um-hum of course they've already gone through the period of time where they need more direction", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know they their teenage years and that they really sometimes need a little better direction to go", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and something course now Peace Corps that couldn't be done of course until they were done with school", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "in such", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know something that was that was outside of uh outside of school", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah but yeah you know right right after you graduate from uh high school because_1 a lot of people are just um uh well gee whiz what do i do now i[f]- if they're not focused on going to college and uh you know having that that uh gung ho plan uh that's you know setting their life goals", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum um-hum kind of an in between time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum yeah so to me see that would be the the uh the greatest time for um you know uh teenagers to to do that would be right after they graduated from high school", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but as for it being required [laughter] you know we're we're just not we're not based on [laughter-on] on that uh type of a system um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah huh-uh no and and like i said not now all young people should be able to do something but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "not all certainly would be geared to even the the Mormon boys that go out not all of them go i mean it's disaster if they don't go but [laughter] but some of them are not they're just not made to do that type of thing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right oh right uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and they just aren't able to do it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah so um yeah it'd be good but like i said it requiring it would be uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": " oh well anyway i uh i uh oh i- i did forget to ask you what is your name by the way", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i'm Ann", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh you're Ann hi but um anyway i uh lot of lot of s[tuff]- interesting procedural things i think we could we could change if we're going to talking about the subject to[night]- tonight which is some i guess criminal courts the", "role": "user" }, { "content": "criminal courts yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah the [vocalized-noise] the one of which was uh [vocalized-noise] something something that's been going on because of the Rodney King trial here in town and that is uh and that is the exclusion of jurors because of or in spite of their race uh ye[ah]- yeah well the the uh the the people that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] the the the uh the jury that's trying uh the officers in that case is is an all white panel and there's been a lot made in the local papers of that fact", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right how is it i can't i'm a little surprised they didn't get a change of venue on that one", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they have they have they moved it up to the county north of here", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um it's in Ventura and there's there's still quite a bit of publicity obviously and it's kind of it's kind of debatable whether you could get a fair trial almost anywhere because that uh that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well that videotape was just horrible", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it was everywhere", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so you know and i- i think it would be very difficult to find someone uh find a panel that would be not have seen it and and known of what was going on", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i agree with you but i can't imagine that they would do an all white jury without having some sort of of discrimination or or you know uh appeal on not having a jury of his peers and all of that kind of stuff", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "exactly you know um the you know i i'm kind of torn on this issue it's like they're saying well on the one hand they're not he's not getting a jury of his peers which is in some ways i think true but on the other hand is it's also saying that white jurors are not going to are not going to convict", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh you know they're not going to do their job which is the whole the whole point of being on a jury is to convict or or or uh let go based on whether or not the person whether or not the evidence says that there's enough", "role": "user" }, { "content": "exactly based on fact right how interesting ooh so what's the prevailing thought within the community", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i mean you know what the news media's gonna make of it but what about the community", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they well i guess it depends on who you talk to i haven't talked to uh i haven't talked to a whole lot of black people on it but i- i rather imagine there's there's some snickering about it and a lot of the usually fatalistic oh here we go again folks kind of stuff", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh my goodness that can't be good for Los Angeles either", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no no i you know on on on one hand y[ou]- on the one hand you almost hope that they convict them because it's th[ey]- they have that very strong piece of physical evidence showing these people beating the heck out of this guy ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh exactly", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "unfortunately that kind of thing is not limited to uh a big city like Los Angeles you're going to have it just about anywhere", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "there but that's that's interesting", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well yeah um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what about the judge who's hearing the case is he gonna be impartial is he going to be a g[ood]- a good adjudicator", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't know you know and and again there's something else th[at]- you know there was a uh i[t]- something else along those lines there was a girl out here named Latausha Harlins i don't know if this this got this got as much notoriety but it's rather almost as infamous here as it was as it was with uh the Rodney King problem um girl walked into a Korean owned store and uh they she had a dispute black girl", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "she she had some kind of a dispute over some orange juice with the with the owner of the store the owner of the store popped her", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah and and well of course the you know the criminal case went up and and the judge gave the woman who shot her shot the girl a uh uh practically a suspended sentence i mean it was", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh my goodness", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it was just she gave her no time in jail and and you know all of these things and then oh there's uh we have these we have people wandering around to with petitions trying to get the judge", "role": "user" }, { "content": "to get that judge recalled i would think", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hm that's almost when you kind of wish that there where st[andardized]- standardized sentences ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it would make it would make life easier yeah but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it would uh you would know the whole world would know what you were facing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and then it's a matter of of deciding g[uilt]-", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "well on this subject of invasion of privacy yes it's very easy for anybody to find out about you your", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i don't really like that very much", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah uh the special on channel thirteen that was broadcast i think last week or so ago it detailed how this one person went about finding out this particular pers[on]- from this particular person his home mortgage how much he pays for it what his payments are uh his uh social security number driver's license any kind of records he may have uh their credit card and the status of their credit", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what was the reason why somebody was trying to find out all that stuff", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it was just as a demonstration to show", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "those who were watching it how easily obtainable information is on any single person and it was mostly it dealt with uh marketing companies these uh direct marketing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "associations that was the primary subject that's how they obtain information about segments of society and group them into age brackets uh their habits their hobbies their income", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and they're able to do that through all the manipulations of the computer", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's not really good i don't know i guess that's an invasion of privacy i'm not sure that that's an everyday thing though at least not for you know an individual", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "something that i feel is a is a pretty much an invasion of privacy is something that's really so common that it's accepted as the norm now is the op[en]- the open office concept", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the open office", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh where they have the you know the little partition dividers throughout a a large room and and people have little cubicles well that's all fine and good but you don't really have any privacy at all", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah not insofar as maybe making conversation with somebody i s[uppose]- suppose because it you can easily be overheard overheard", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and they get i suppose any items that you have laying out can be easily seen", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah there's there is", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and it's not it's not just that it's uh the whole thing about you know if if you're trying to concentrate well it's rather hard sometimes it's almost impossible to do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "because um you know you're uh you're time and you're space is is not your own space", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i've work in a situation like that and i well kind of have a problem with that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "do you work with uh mixed company male and female or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah is there anybody who doesn't", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well there there are a few out there it's i suppose it depends on who you're working for and where at", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but um my own environment is open totally there are no cubicles there's nothing to block anything", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hm", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so yeah but um i guess we're changing ever so rapidly in the devices of communications that anything can be obtained from anybody's record or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the computer is the the big advent of that i believe because it they can all hold such large data bases on anybody that all you have to do is touch a button and it appears", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "in front of them and you don't have to i- i know the government sells information to private companies about individuals or families", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's no secret and it shouldn't be that way i don't think", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i don't i don't think that's that's quite right either", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean it's not really government for the people and by the people i'll tell you that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah hm", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what do you think could be done about it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh the only way it can change is um if if everybody bands together it's just like we need to get rid of these clowns that's serving in the office the only thing really that can be changed is for us to everybody to say we've had enough of you out you go but uh i don't see anything like that to occur unless everybody bands together to do that it has to be one common ideal goal for that to be done um i don't know it's it's still a a free i suppose country insofar as we're we're able to obtain information and i wouldn't be for total banning of uh all information or it's mostly the private information that we're all concerned about but it's it's hard to define", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh a lot of those boundaries", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it really is it's something that something that i've just had a a dealing with is like a credit bureau", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well they take they take my name which is a very common name and my last name is even more common", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they they check that name against uh their list and they find several and without even bothering to try to match up any other information at all they just report everything under that name", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so you've received a lot of uh flack", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they don't they don't even check my social security number", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and companies are paying them good money to report accurately and they're not they're so lazy they're just not doing it i mean they just find your name and they match it up", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know and that that just drives me crazy because they're and then they want then you know to get it removed they say well you know you have to write this write this long detailed letter and everything like that to them you know and then it takes three weeks and all and i'm like baloney", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you messed it up you fix it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "is that usually what you tell them in the letter", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no what i've taken to doing lately is calling the company that they report", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "like uh uh recently i was reported as having JC Penney accounts and i don't so i called JC Penney and i said uh i just wanted to let you know that the credit agency you're using is incorrectly reporting the information that you're providing to them and they say uh-huh because_1 they really don't want to pay for services that's not being done properly either so then they can call", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the credit bureau and say hey you know we're paying you good money to report this properly and you're not doing your job", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "good idea", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so that's what i've taken to doing lately and it seems to work pretty well so far", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum oh that's good any other problems", "role": "user" }, { "content": "not that i can think of", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] i i guess i've just about run out of", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-yes] [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i- i can probably go on but [laughter] it's it's uh i'm clouding up right now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah probably better let you get back to work", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well it's nice talking to you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "maybe again", "role": "user" }, { "content": "{alrighty} bye-bye", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "bye-bye", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "how do you uh manage your budget", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well let's see we or i sit down at the uh in a on a monthly or a biweekly i get paid every two weeks so i make out a budget for every two weeks and i sit down and see how much money i have to have for my bills going out and then i compare that to uh how much money we need to make and then just set it up that way and allot this much money for everything and if we have any left over we'll uh you know buy clothes or have fun go out to eat or something and we're going to try to start saving as soon as we can we generally don't have a lot left over but as far as the long term our long-term goal is to to get out of debt", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh m[ost]- most of our debts are from before we were married and we're trying to get rid of you know student loans those kinds of things", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well i in my younger years i'd always heard the adage you should uh buy as much of a house as you can afford", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh because of the uh improvement in real estate prices and on the last move we bought ourselves a fairly large house and i've got some pretty stiff mortgage payments now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh the uh improvement in uh income and uh investments and so forth has not uh come at the rate i've expected so we're still kind of hurting by the uh high mortgage payments and we haven't gotten out from under them yet", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh so far we've managed to hold our own by uh trying to set up a a monthly budget", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh i try to take out just so much cash for me and my uh give so much cash to my wife", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to spend on groceries and clothing and fuel for the car and then the rest of it's uh pretty much fixed expenses uh mortgage electricity uh water and uh and garbage collection and telephone [laughter-bills] and cable television bills and those are pretty much fixed", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah that's basically the kinds of bills we have are on our budget are you know the needs the have to haves and you know those kinds of things uh we don't have a lot of uh you know like JC Penny's in our [laughter] in our budget and uh maybe twice a year we're to where i can let my wife go clothes shopping like that and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "let's see my mother-in-law lives uh not too far from here so she helps with our son's clothes when she can", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and that's real good and uh w[ell]- at TI i have a real good uh benefits package for uh uh you know like for going to the doctor and that kind of thing so that's not something i really have to put in the budget that seriously so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah no my wife's pretty good about uh grocery shopping and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "she pitches in and uh makes clothes for the kids", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really well that's neat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh which is a big help uh one of our big problems though is handling unexpected uh uh budget items", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "like this month the uh heat pump went out and uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": " um yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they want pretty close to three thousand dollars just to replace that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wow so what do you do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well uh we have to cut into the savings uh at this point to uh to buffer that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh wow", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well that's good that you have the savings to get into", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "then maybe we'll go for a week or two and or a month or two and then the car [laughter-breaks] [laughter-down] [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so it's the unexpected things that make it awful hard to control the budget", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wow yeah that's that's the way we are we've had a lot of unexpected things just in the last uh couple months", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that uh really hit us hard but i've been able to work enough overtime to you know really help with the with covering the expenses so but we've never been we've been married for uh nearly four years and we've never been able to save any money and i think it's just hit both of us uh just in the past few months that we need to start saving some money no matter what we do we need to put that in our budget and just start doing it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "even if it's you know ten dollars a week and so we're going to start doing that or actually we started two paychecks ago and that was uh i think that was a really wise decision", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well do you have some uh savings plans at work", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no actually i'm i'm not involved in anything like that at work or uh anywhere uh i don't have anything to fall back on at all", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i- i know that's not wise but that's just uh where we're at right now my wife just went back to work part-time uh she can substitute teach at schools and uh there's so many school districts and schools here in the metroplex that uh by turning her name in if she wanted to she could work", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know everyday but we're we're just going to let her work one maybe two days a week and we're just going to apply all the money that she makes to uh uh our debts and try to get as much out of debt as fast as we can ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and there's and we're we're Christians and that's uh we've only been Christians for about five years but that's a a real a biblical truth in the Bible is to to not be in debt and we're [laughter-really] starting to see the the the reasoning behind that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh because_1 we're you know we're always well i can't be [laughter-sick] this week but one day", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "or you know this month but one day because you know our bills will catch up with us if i am or you know i c[an't]- we can't go on a two week vacation because uh i wouldn't make any overtime in two weeks so that would really hurt us financially and you know just things like that all the time and you know w[e]- we really see how we're ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know indebted or nearly underneath uh the debt that we have", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know and that's that's really hard but so far we've never really uh been behind on any bills uh i had to put our student loans on hold once for about i think three months", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and we had a a cutback at work and uh this is this was a couple of years back but anyway but we're doing really good we're not saving but we're staying right even", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah w[ell]- we've been looking around at uh uh trying to develop some side activities that that might help out such as uh creating some craft objects that we can market in the uh local stores", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "or uh uh making uh some dresses for children or things like that or even writing children's [laughter-books]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah that's neat oh that's neat yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh i tried uh this past year writing uh journal articles but uh i found out it cost me more than the the honorariums i got for writing them_1", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wow oh wow because of the time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh well especially the first one because i wound up buying a lot of [laughter-reprints] for [laughter-handouts] and i ate up all my [laughter-profits] with uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wow right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "buying reprints", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right wow yeah my my wife made uh a whole lot of crafts last year for Christmas presents", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and we didn't uh you know have to allot any well hardly ver[y]- very much money anyway for Christmas just for our uh personal family just me and her and our son and i think her mom and that was really you know about it we we made everything else that uh we gave for Christmas last year", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and she did really good with that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh we thought we were going to be pretty tight with Christmas this past year", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh we have a family dog that uh ate all of the children's toys [laughter-so] [laughter-coming] [laughter-up] [laughter-to] [laughter-Christmas] [laughter-time] [laughter] the girls didn't have any toys [laughter-so] we had to go out and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh wow wow oh no", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and get them a whole new set of playthings", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wow", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "now i don't know how the dog has fared eating all that plastic and uh and stuffed animal stuffing but [laughter] he's still here [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] wow wow that's pretty [laughter-pretty] [laughter-bizarre] [laughter] the dog ate the Christmas presents that's funny well anyway what uh is the economy doing pretty good there where you're at", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so far it's uh doing fairly well uh we're in the metropolitan Washington area and uh i guess most of the area is still living off the federal government with uh beltway bandit type contracts uh our company is uh done fairly well", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah what company is it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'm with the Melpar division of E-Systems", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh of E-Systems okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i see what do you all make", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh we're primarily in the uh uh systems integrations business", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "selling to the government", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "okay [laughter] um i guess um ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "this is probably really a good subject for me because i really like to do uh hand work uh mostly i do needlepoint i guess", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh really what kinds of things have you done", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but um um well i've made a lot of baby gifts [laughter] it seem like that's like especially lately there's been so many babies [laughter] that uh bibs and blankets and things like that wall hangings", "role": "user" }, { "content": "aha [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "do you ever keep any of your stuff", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "isn't that funny no [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] i do crochet and a lot of uh things like that and i have very little of my own stuff and and it it's kind of embarrassing people say let me see some of your work", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh well can you go to so and so's [laughter-house]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] isn't that funny i guess i do have one thing um a friend of mine gave me a clock kit and i- i needlepointed the the face", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes ooh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i uh kept that because she gave me that so [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that that would be definitely something you'd want to keep was was the whole face done or just the numbers uh and and like minute", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah and it's real neat", "role": "user" }, { "content": "marks", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um basically the the whole well no i guess the minute marks but the minute marks are done they're like hearts", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and then the at the numbers they they're kind of outlined and stuff it it was quite bit of work but you know it was a lot of fun too i really like doing stuff like that so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i did some needlepoint years ago and then i got into the Bargello", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh what's that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well it's an Italian um needlework using using the uh i started to say the canvas but the uh hum the what what kind of cloth uses that i i've just gone blank but it's used wi[th]- uh with yarn and it usually takes long stitches over two or three openings in the cloth", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and you weave intricate patterns and use different colors like it could be a flame stitch where so rather than drawing a picture you're making a design like a geometric or whatever and it was used quite often in the colonial times to uh uh to upholster chairs and so forth as well as the crewel um embroidery work that was done on them", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "wow well that's interesting what did you what kind of things did you do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what i did when when i was doing that was mostly pillows [laughter] you know for sofas and so forth and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i can't find one that i've done it it's one of those things i didn't i didn't give them away but i didn't know if it's been my color choice or multiple moves", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "or or what and it i was so proud of them when i got them finished", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but i have no idea where they are", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "tha[t]- what did you call that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "bargello it's B A R G E double L O", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh that's i've never heard of that before i've probably seen it though i mean when you described it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i suspect you i suspect you have", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i mean when you described it it sounded like something you know that would be around i guess but um i've never heard of it before and it's really interesting um i guess i've decorated baskets and stuff before in the past but i've kind of gotten out of that i use to do a lot more and sell at craft shows", "role": "user" }, { "content": "me too yeah [laughter] that's interesting", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really [laughter] that's yeah it [laughter-is]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "how did you know to choose this subject tonight that's funny uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh what how did you what kinds of decorations did you use with the bas[kets]- how were you decorating the baskets", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh basically bows and lace uh ribbons um i really wanted to do you know so many of them now have the ribbons where i'm not sure how they do it but the ribbons", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they make them they like i don't know how to explain it they make them hard you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "like fabric that's been stiffened in yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i've never done that and those are so neat i mean i would really like to do those but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i've seen some and there there they i suspect they're fairly simple because the one lady i've seen i know that does it i've never asked her any questions but she has three kids all under the age of like six", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and they're all a handful so it's got to be something she can do fairly easily and fairly quickly", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh definitely yeah [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "when i do um crochet it's it's usually the the lacy Victorian type", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "things like that and i stiffen those with a a glue mixture it's like white glue and it may be something similar to that that the fabric is dipped in and then um allowed to dry in those those draping bows i mean those draping streamers i don't know i was just there's bound to be some kind of fabric stiffener like that that's very similar that's not going to melt too much with uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh high humidity", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's i think that's what my concern was you know wasn't really sure and how they would how they would last", "role": "user" }, { "content": "in in a room do you know what my concern is how will i dust this thing [laughter] i'm [laughter-terrible]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] you're [laughter-right] no that's true [laughter-though] that's funny", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] so many of my crafts well right now i'm looking at a little uh uh quilted uh uh hanging it's like it's a flag and i don't want to wash it because that would start breaking down the batting and so forth but it's such a dust collector to be", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "out and so forth and most of my things are dust collectors [laughter] uh and i hate to dust so that's the first thing i think of is how easy would this thing be to clean [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] oh i know [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] that's funny [laughter] no i just um i don't i have really have gotten out of it i don't do it quite as much as i used to um i guess because i i went back to school so i don't have as much time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh you don't have time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "now and i have two children [laughter-also] [laughter-so] [laughter-that] it keeps me very busy [laughter] but i really enjoy it when i do do it when i get the chance you know it's really", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you definitely don't have [laughter-time]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's so relaxing to just sit and but once i get started i can't put it down [laughter] i just", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that i have a similar problem i've got to have time or i don't even want to get into it in the first place", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so i end up lots of time not doing anything at all", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know i started a project it's been over a year ago [laughter] that i swore i was going to finish for somebody for [laughter-Christmas] and i", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you just didn't say which Christmas right [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] that's what i keep telling this [laughter-person] well i didn't tell you what year [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " [vocalized-noise]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what was this project", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um well it's a it's uh cross stitch and it's a picture and it's a wildlife it has deer and trees and it's really beautiful but it's going to be a lot of work and you know i've i have worked on it quite a bit but not as much as i'd like to you know it's just so hard", "role": "user" }, { "content": "now this is this is done in the needlepoint hm", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh well i shouldn't it's counted cross stitch actually is what i'm doing and so it's really since it's counted you know it's really a lot of work [laughter] yep", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes yes i do know i have done a little bit of that but i've decided that that's something that demands my time my my to[tal]- my total attention", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so i've got to have total almost total silence i can't really watch television if the pattern is very intricate it sounds like you'd have lots of shading on that particular piece it is not does not sound like an easy one to finish", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yep no it really isn't and i tell you really i could just kick myself for even starting [laughter-it] because i have a feeling i'm never going to get it done i'm probably going to hear about it the rest of [laughter-my] [laughter-life] [laughter] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] oh i'm sure you'll get it done but it just maybe not on the original obviously not on the original time schedule", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] no that's true i i just don't know when i'm ever it just seems like there's just never enough time to to pick it up and do it you know it's just really hard but i really do en[joy]- like i said i really enjoy it when i do [laughter] it's just hard ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "just hard finding the time that can be dedicated to that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh and there's there's so many other things that i i have done you know in the meantime like i said so many baby gifts i've made a lot of bibs and wall hangings and so you know those don't take much time at all so it's no big deal for me to pick those up and do them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "do you do you use patterns i mean like a book of patterns or do you go out an buy a a kit like for a bib or something like that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no no i usually just buy a pattern book i have several pattern books and i just go with those", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and then i buy the bibs separate usually i think it's a little bit cheaper in the long run and then i just use whatever colors i want to i don't usually use the colors they tell me to and it it depends on what it is you know but some things especially letters", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "if they suggest certain colors for letters i just go with whatever i want to yeah i yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's what i would do too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "or or whatever i have [laughter-that's]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "there's yeah there's a a few designs i guess i've done myself but not very many [laughter] real simple ones you know i do i've made i made a little uh uh little uh little thumb print and made it a bunny", "role": "user" }, { "content": "ooh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it was really easy i mean just just did a thumb print you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what with ink or oh okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh and then see i didn't cross stitch the actual thumb print you know that was just the ink and then i made the ears and little eyes and nose and mouth that was so simple [laughter-and] [laughter-it] ju[st]- it didn't take anything at all and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh that sounds really neat did you do did you use like a stamp pad an ink okay so you just", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "just like being finger printed", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and then i just", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": " okay let's talk about schooling", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh wh[at]- what what contacts do you have with uh public school sy[stem]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay well i have a boy and he just went into middle school early and i have a girl and she's in uh grade school and then i have a little boy who goes to uh they have something just before kindergarten and it's called Early Childhood and i have a young a young boy in that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh okay um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i- i have a lot of children in in the school system down here", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and um i think we have excellent teachers here i am really uh like the stu[dents]- like the way the teachers work with the students uh i've not been so um happy with the schools [laughter] themselves i guess like my last year my son and daughter were in the same grade school before he moved up to middle school and it was just packed", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean it was a a fire hazard if we had any kind of assembly there with parents", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it was just a real problem uh so we had to do a bond issue and and um vote to take money and either have students bussed to different schools if that's what they preferred to do or to uh work on the sch[ool]- work for another school to be built which is a good idea but in the meantime the school still has lots and lots of kids in it ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so um i think one thing is that would maybe we don't have enough schools and secondly when we have enough schools sometimes we can't get the the support for the teachers that we need to pay them to keep good teachers", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i think that's i think that's uh true i i've got a a little different uh contact but i've i've got a one son that graduated from high school last year and another son that's a", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "a sophomore this year and uh my wife teaches kindergarten here in Richardson ah but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh great", "role": "user" }, { "content": "in general i i think that the you know one of the reasons that we we uh the choice to live in Richardson when we when we came here was the was the schools and i think that Plano and Richardson in terms of the uh uh things seriously wrong with the public schools are are not nearly to the extent that that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we see through the out the country name", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] and right right and i think and i think part of that is that is the the uh your big part of that is just uh the demographics the population in those schools are are typically uh people that very much value the education and support the the school systems and and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum i think that's right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "although there is still some still some problems but uh i i- you know i wh[en]- when i was when i was going to school and i grew up in Iowa and and w[e]- in my family school was certainly valued but if there was ever any sort of a uh [vocalized-noise] if e[ver]- if i was ever in trouble in school i was also in trouble at home [laughter-and] an[d]- even more so and i think that that part of it is is not", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "exactly with the schools but with the with the uh the culture that doesn't doesn't value the education and doesn't value the schools and doesn't support uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the home yeah uh i think that's right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what the schools are are trying to do ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it is so hard with a family system um either divorced or or just one parent or just", "role": "user" }, { "content": " yeah that's true", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh li[ke]- and then if both of them_1 have to work even that is a a hard situation", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "for the children uh to to have a supportive system around them to make school work for them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i think it's really important that the parents work with the school um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think what you said is is really a pinpoint though that the student and the family life really adds or detracts from what's happening in the school", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so um well what about your wife is she she happy at school or [laughter] she's just ready", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] well uh she she works very hard as a kindergarten teacher sh[e]- she has she has two half day classes so she has uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i bet she does um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know [vocalized-noise] on the order of twice as many students as as the teachers in the higher grades and uh uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah right right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but her her background is in is in uh child development and and uh so forth and so kindergarten is as high as she as she wants to teach and she's she's teaching rather than something else because_1 that that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's the jobs that are available and that the schedule matches uh you know with our kids and things like that so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh and but uh the", 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[ { "content": "you can go ahead and start if you want uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well um the budget's an interesting issue uh particularly since i'm pretty much a libertarian and an {anachro} libertarian at that uh so i would basically say the way to fix the budget is to uh cut and eliminate taxes charge user fees for things that uh are absolutely necessary and to be allocated fairly that way and um i'd say ninety percent of the budget has no business being there", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " i can agree with that and uh i know one thing we we need to do a lot of spending cuts instead a lot of raising taxes because that's what's really hurting everybody's goat ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i th[ink]- i think a lot of people fail to realize but you know the government doesn't generate money you know they may print it but that's not really the way money is made it's it's made from people working and doing things that are productive and government's the net cost", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and government doesn't produce anything", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right so uh a dollar tax isn't isn't a dollar that can be you know that that makes more bread or anything else it's uh it's lost", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "correct that uh i guess the uh the big thing about that is the fact that they're spending someone else's money it's not like it's they're out of their own savings account", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and that's another quagmire that really hurts us", "role": "user" }, { "content": "absolutely", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i mean it's it's real easy when you go home and and you think gee you know i'd like to have a mansion and a yacht isn't it nice i can make my neighbors pay for it [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but but uh you know i mean the real world doesn't work like that or at least it shouldn't but it seems to in government", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] isn't the basic needs of the government in the first place is to protect and what is the other one basic services is to protect and i don't know about providing all the other services that they do i mean even i i guess the uh the latest uh fire they came under was whenever they were providing a uh a tribute to um Lawrence Welk", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hum oh that's right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "contributing five hundred thousand to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "restoration to his home i think that was called back because of all the flack they received but but that's the another one of the big examples of why we're in such dilemma", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh well even just the general funding for the arts uh in humanities and then you know they get into these censorship issues and everything else i mean", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the art's in humanity should be privately funded", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i agree", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um a lot of these social welfare programs i mean that's why they're things like United Way is when you and i think that those are important but we give our dollars to them and it shouldn't be a government responsibility", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but the government i think is supposed to be doing is is defending our rights", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no more and no less", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and the power given to the IRS is just astronomical and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah that's awful", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "when you sign your ten forty form you're signing a away you're rights i mean your your rights to uh uh protect yourself", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and that shouldn't be that way either uh the power given to those people is just well beyond it should be", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh the really what given it was given to them by Congress", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah but Congress never really had the right to give it to them is the is the real argument", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um yeah it's it's so i don't know i mean so it i mean getting back to the budget it's i guess the the fundamental thing is to give people a concrete get people to agree on a concrete idea of just exactly what government is supposed to be doing for them no more no less and cut government back down to that size", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it's it's it's an enormou[s]- enormous bureaucracy though it's going to take probably years to really get that in to order too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because everybody will want that pet project", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh sure and and there's going to be a lot of you know cover your ass and you know well you can cut his program but not mine and and entrenched bureaucrats that don't want to loose their jobs", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "correct and all the uh unnecessary military installations", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yep yep", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "will have to be probably scrapped", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but that's going to be difficult", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we may we may need a constitutional convention", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really the biggest way yeah uh probably will it's the only way it's going to change is for us to have a better budget for running this country is for everybody to get involved and right now i don't see that happening", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yep", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "not at the moment", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "or not at this short time period [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right i agree", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so my you have some pretty good ideas there um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well it's been nice talking to somebody with who uh basically agrees with me ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well i'm um i voted libertarian this last election i mean in most uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "did you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "some of the boxes you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'm really am interested in getting most of the incumbents out", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah absolutely i think the republic rats have uh driven this country downhill for too long", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well all parties too are responsible it's not just one particular one", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right that's why i said republic rat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i see i see", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] well now that we have aired our views in such an open way", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well it was good talking to you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you too have fun up there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hope to talk to you again maybe", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okeydoke bye-bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "okay well hello Frances", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hello Paul ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um yeah i guess when i uh first i guess i have mixed feelings about this uh subject when i first heard about it um i thought it was kind of a neat way of uh screening uh uh screening for potential problems good way for companies to weed out people with drug problems but since then i've been hearing uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i read an article in the Wall Street Journal last year that talked about um the different results that they get from uh different labs and that uh many labs will give uh false positives especially some of the", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the less expensive ones and that people have been denied employment on this basis", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well the reliability seems to [laughter] not be too great um i don't know i'm kind of like you i have mixed feelings but all in all i think i'm for it [laughter] uh [laughter] i really do um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "because we lose so much time and what have you with the the drug problem and it's just so prevalent nowadays that uh i think it's only fair for the uh employees or the employers to uh have some kind of guidelines to go by", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but like anything else this can be misused", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " yeah there's a i know some employers have had have been able to uh reduce some tremendous problems they've had with employee turnover health problems and accidents and theft and i understand that certain jobs like if you're driving a train or plane or something of course there'd be increased need for it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "one thing that always kind of bugged me about it was uh there's they most of them don't test for actually the number one drug problem which of course is uh alcohol abuse", "role": "user" }, { "content": " right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and of course that you know everybody talks about all the other drugs but uh i- i understand alcohol is really still the number one health problem and the number one abused drug in in our country so it seems kind of too bad that that one's tolerated while other ones are are of you know are the ones that they focus on", "role": "user" }, { "content": " well it is in every situation that uh alcohol is more acceptable to people it seems than the other quote drugs but uh it can do more harm with the uh i don't know we just seem to have a rash of drunk driving and killings around here lately and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well see now in Texas uh didn't they only recently ban open containers in in vehicles a few years ago", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes yes but we aren't very uh we aren't very hard even on the you know when they're picked up for drunk driving time after time again", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really", "role": "user" }, { "content": "this is a real problem here that they get a little slap on their wrists and there was one man here that had forty two DWI's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh [laughter-man]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and the only reason they finally came down on him he finally did kill someone", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and an innocent bystander and when looking back he had forty two convictions and yet he was still walking loose so we've got problem here with the alcohol especially that uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh right yeah yeah i expect possibly in Texas it's uh you know a an attorney knows they get in front of a jury and the jury will be thinking well i've done that before or he's just a good old boy [laughter-you] [laughter-know] [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the good old yeah good old boy stuff [laughter] you know well this is yeah this is natural this is tell me what do you expect [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah right what else how else do you drive in your pickup down the [laughter-highway]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah and i i'm afraid you know it may become that with some of these other drugs too that uh i know i have some friends whose children of uh you know it's they use cocaine", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it's acc[eptable]- it's becoming acceptable to them that well you know they're not", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they're not hurting anyone else and i thought where have i heard this [laughter-before] and i'm afraid that's what we may be", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "facing in the very near future", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "other than that i don't know because i don't [laughter-drink] [laughter-and] [laughter-i] [laughter-don't] [laughter-do] [laughter-drugs] [laughter] and it's uh so neither is really acceptable to me [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well same here [laughter] yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh then the work place it's just [laughter] i don't know what is well we really infringing on others' rights or their ", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[vocalized-noise]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "there we go", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "all right ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well actually i'm a D[odgers]- i'm a Dodgers fan from way back um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh how way back i mean [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] like um late fifties early sixties", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay so Wally Moon moon shots and all that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what's that ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah uh coliseum Wally Moon and all that okay yeah it's uh um ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yep", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i i'm i'm living in just west of Baltimore and uh Frederick um which is also just west of Baltimore has a minor league team and uh and Wally Moon is the manager of them_1 [laughter] yeah so he's still kicking around [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "is that right that's interesting yeah i- i also lived uh eight years in Ohio before going to uh going away to college and i used to go watch the Toledo Mud Hens", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i saw them i we[nt]- i- i was out there last summer i s[aw]- saw a game Ned Skeldon", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "is that the stadium", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i couldn't tell you for sure it's been a long time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay s[o]- um it used to be a uh race track", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah um it was that was impression i got when i was there so i almost okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i think that's right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah so had a lot of fun actually i mean i like minor league [laughter-baseball] a lot it it's cheaper [laughter] for one thing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yep well tha[t's]- that's true uh i've bec[ome]- i've kind of become a Rangers fan over the last eleven years since i've been here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh they've led the American league in batting fielding and pitching but they've never been able to do more than one of those in any any given year so [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah and i uh think they're in in for a odd year this year actually um they um i- i don't understand why Incaviglia got released", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't either i mean the guy's twenty twenty five home runs maybe thirty eighty some RBIs", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] i mean he you know he can't field and you know he strikes out a lot but i mean he's done that for five years why get rid of him now [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really i mean he really has become a a very decent fielder", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh he has okay i hadn't", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah he he's he's not a the liability that he was that he used to be", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh he fits right in with Texas bunch of guys i mean with uh Detroit you know bunch of guys that hit home runs and strike out a lot ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah of course you know get a guy like Cecil Fielder uh you know i[f]- if he strikes out a lot so what", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well is that i mean with Detroit i mean they can get away with one guy like that i mean if i if i were like if i were running Detroit i would start building the team around Fielder", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but that doesn't mean get three other guys who hit all they can do is hit home runs and strike out you know which they did [laughter] so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right yep well i think the key for for LA this year is whether Orel Hershiser can come back", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think their pitching's deep enough that it doesn't matter um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it may be", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i uh i like them a lot i- i think they're going to go all the way um and and i- i mean by saying i like them i like their chances i- i actually don't like the Dodgers i'm a Giants fan [laughter] from from way back ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right well picking up Darrell Strawberry didn't hurt", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no Brett Butler didn't hurt either um and Bobby Ojeda didn't hurt and Bobby Ojeda they got him from the Mets for Hubie Brooks", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh who was the last one oh okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um he's uh he's pretty decent pitcher he's", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes he is", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um okay you know who he is then", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um and uh that guy Offerman the short stop is gonna be good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yep", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well it should be an interesting year", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i'm looking i've i've already been to one game and in fact i should have been to two but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "are y[ou]- you are you an Orioles fan", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um the the team i live and die with actually is the Red Sox mostly die uh but um i- i go to the Orioles since they're here and i you know i do enjoy them um i was out at opening day on Monday um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh right yeah yeah you know i kind of wish that they had interleague play like they do in all the other sports so i could see some of the National League teams here once in a while", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] how far is Houston [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh three hundred miles", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "ooh okay keep forgetting how big states are out there sometimes [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it is it's it's incredible", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i um yeah we're we're pretty lucky because_1 if if i wanna see a National League team i can usually go up to Philadelphia", "role": "user" }, { "content": "there you go", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and um you know saw you know saw the Cardinals and Cubs last year and a bunch of teams the year before", "role": "user" }, { "content": "boy you are a baseball fan aren't you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh uh yeah [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "interesting", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " um i try to see whatever i can i mean i've been to like thirty or forty games each of the last few years", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wow", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah hoping they'll do it this year because_1 um uh um having a kid this fall so it's like well -[w]ell so much for going to lots of baseball [laughter-games]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "all right yeah so so uh do it while you can", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah seriously", "role": "user" }, { "content": "sure well it's been good talking with you sure enjoyed it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " yep good talking with you and uh and uh you know you'll be happy i think in October when the Dodgers win [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i wouldn't mind", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i'll be i'll be upset probably even though my prediction will be right [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well God bless and uh good talking with you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "good talking with you take care bye ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "bye-bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "no you start [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] okay what are the benefits well i- i mean i don't even consider like salary a real benefit it just it's kind of a like a side thing i'm really here for you know working with lots of creative people is what i really like about my job um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i think that i'm self-employed and work in radio and uh for me really i don't have to be terribly concerned about uh benefits outside because_1 i own my own company but uh the worst problem that i think uh out here is affecting people and i think would be the most positive job benefit is job security these days", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's true y[eah]- yeah you don't you don't want to have worry about it [laughter] you know if if you're worried you don't work as well", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it['s]- well it it's a real problem out here because uh you know it's hard to imagine that you know ten years ago i can remember where we really you know somebody would work for a local company here like Kodak or Xerox which are based here and uh they'd have that job for life", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and you really didn't have to worry too much about that but ever since this Reagan Bush thing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "every single time there's you know th[e]- the first thing they do is they fire employees whenever there's a problem with the uh uh ec[onomy]- economy and clear out the employees and we're losing more and more jobs and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it just gets worse then people don't don't spend any money", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it's it's a real that's probably the biggest thing that i think people are looking for i uh put some things up in the Comp Dcom Telecom thing regularly about uh job security with the uh AT&T employees and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right yeah i j[ust]- i just noticed that yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the Communication Workers of America and i'm watching as that progresses more and more and it seems to me that we're seeing a real problem with job security being the number one focus it's no longer a question of salary or or perks it it's just basic security to have that job", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i know i know exactly how you feel but i- i also don't kn[ow]- you know ho[w]- how can we get people to change it i mean it it kind of it kind of requires you know a company taking a risk and they don't want to do that [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i in well i think maybe some incentives on the part of the government to retain employees uh versus downsizing really why we're seeing that kind of downsizing is because of the uh increasing power of shareholders in the corporations of the country", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's true", "role": "user" }, { "content": "whenever there's a uh problem with uh the economy or the stock value you know the first thing the stockholders want to see is well decrease costs which means cut employees", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know i mean our CEO is is you know quite frankly stated that you know we're we're here to make stockholders happy and that's not why i'm working here [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah California is really starting to feel the effects i think of the uh downturn", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh definitely [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know you guys have been pretty insulated uh for some of the past ones i[t]- it hasn't hit as bad as it has out in the northeast here Rochester's luckily is a technology moving city i mean we have a lot of telecommunications and the like out here but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Buffalo and Pittsburgh and cities around here that were into mechanical and engineering and things like that steel mills they're all gone they're all in Mexico now [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah w[e're]- we're just kind of like losing and it it just seems to be a snowball effect i mean [vocalized-noise] you know we keep losing more", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well Cupertino seems to be one of the every single software company ever sees always sees Cupertino [laughter-you] [laughter-know]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so you guys at least don't have those kinds of you know the only pro[blem]- software seems to be still a US strength versus hardware", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right and it [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but you know the again in the future we're going to see the same type of thing even in more white collar work where we're going to have job security i think being the biggest focus", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it's thi[ngs]- things aren't that secure in software right now either i think it's it's kind of a cutthroat i'm also a i'm also a hardware manufacturer i'm at Apple so it's like you know we we notice our product just becoming a commodity and that's really bad", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i heard Apple was remaking themselves into a consumer electronics company", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we're trying and if it works tha[t's]- that'd be great for us but what about you know the rest of the industry", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well the hardware you know HDTV if we can keep control of that that looks like something that we could have good strengths on and there would be a lot of new jobs created", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah although although we we go on that subject i- i because_1 i looked at HDTV uh but i- i don't like standards that are on it's s[till]- still on a fixed resolution which means it'll be eventually outdated also", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum well we i'm a home satellite dish owner and we have these arguments all the time about [laughter-standards] because of the video cipher of the scrambling system", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "in place and there's two separate arguments over whether we w[ant]- should have an industry standard which many people can build equipment towards or whether we want to have a uh system where ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "everybody's separate", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it's it's a real s[erious]- serious problem in a situation of", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "this area Dallas", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm born and raised here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well great so who you want to talk about {baseballwise}", "role": "user" }, { "content": "m[ay]- may as well talk about the Rangers", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the Rangers all right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh uh might as well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well do you think they're going to get anyone in Florida", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i hope i hope they do they've uh i forgot who've they signed already", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "did they sign that shortstop that was they were talking about some shortstop they were going to try to get in the free agency draft or the free agency market", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't know who they uh they they decide sign finally signed up Brian Downing i know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "for oh okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they're they're trying to get uh God what's his name what's that black man's name uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "is he with them now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "Ruben", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Ruben yeah they ha[ven't]- they still haven't signed Ruben yet", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah no i heard that they're not going to talk to him till next week's now they talked to his agents today and then they're going to talk to them some more next week which i don't know whether that's good bad or indifferent because wish they'd get that out of the way and maybe he could do something else", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i know well they said they made a mistake they made a mistake by uh [vocalized-noise] not sign[ing]- not signing him uh to a longer contract than what they did", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know why do you think they did that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh they d[id]- did did it for economics but it's coming back and it's going to haunt them_1 this year because he played such good ball the last couple of years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "becau[se]- now his uh his contracts say they i think they signed him for like three or four hundred thousand last year but now it's going to cost them somewhere about uh eight hundred thousand to a million [laughter] is kind of", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh you don't think he'll get that twenty seven million like that other guy just got", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] i don't think so i don't he'll he's i[t's]- it's going to cost them_1 though", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's going to cost them_1 but he's worth it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's true well do you think they need to fire Bobby", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Valentine's a good guy i don't know if he's i don't know he's he's done a lot for the team", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he really has i think he's an excellent i think he's an excellent coach he's probably one of the best ones that they've had just because he's more consistent", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he's more consistent than any other coach that we've had and had there in a long time and i i think he'll do some good he just needs a they just need to put together a good pitching staff and i think they'll go pretty good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "not have so many injuries", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah that was that's what killed them_1 last year i went to a f[ew]- went to a few of their games and it just uh the pitching was okay but it was", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it was inconsistent", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "are you comfortable that Bobby Witt will be back or is he", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "ever going to develop into a super pitcher", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i don't think he is", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't think he is", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] what about Kevin Brown", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Kevin Brown uh he might he might he still he's still got a little learning to do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i thought maybe he would but i was kind of disappointed last year", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i was disappointed the whole season so [laughter] they they they started out i mean if they would have continued they went off that fourteen game losing streak or winning streak then they kind of hit the dumps there for a while", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well they yeah yeah but then all their pitchers were hurt so that that really hurts when you can't when all of the pitchers get hurt like that so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah that's true you think they're going to do anything this year", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't know i uh uh i think they need a another arm and i'm still not sure that that new third baseman Dean Palmer is as good as they think he's going to be", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think they made a mis[take]- they made a mistake trading Buechele uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but well i don't think they uh think they knew they couldn't afford him and Ruben and they decided to go with Ruben because_1 he", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah that's probably true but uh you know you got to you got to have more not one person's going to make the team", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah but they're not willing to pay big bucks it doesn't seem i think they'll have an exciting team la[st]- n[ext]- next year and i just you know if they don't have any injuries but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh Kansas City you know just signed a big time player so they're they're tough at signing all those people they got uh Joiner Wally Joiner from California so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that should help their team", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it sounds like you keep up on baseball pretty well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no i have one of those uh minds that remembers trivia that's of completely useless", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that [laughter-what] useless trivia [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter] yeah i mean something important i can't remember but something about baseball or football or something that really doesn't mean anything i can remember it's one of those weird things [laughter-i] [laughter-don't] [laughter-know] why [laughter-you] [laughter-know] and i can't find my car keys then but i can remember you know something that about sports that's not even important [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "remem[ber]- remember who Kansas City signed but you can't find your car keys", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's [laughter-right] or my [laughter-glasses] [laughter] yeah i [laughter-know] and and why why do i remember sports it's just one of those things i don't know why that if i can hear it on the radio and it just sinks in and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that [laughter] that's great [laughter] well that's great i've never i've never had a decent conversation with a woman about baseball", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well well that's that's a yeah [laughter-oh] [laughter-that's] that's embarrassing almost but no i could probably name them almost the starting lineup for the R[angers]-", "role": "user" }, { "content": "un[til]- until now [laughter]", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] w[hat]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] uh how do you feel about capital punishment", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh tough question i mean it it's i was actually kind of thinking about it the other day someone was talking about it how uh a person who takes someone else's life he was saying should should not deserve the right to ha[ve]- to keep their own life it's kind of it's it's it's a really you know it's a moral dilemma i don't know um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think that i- i forget what the law is in my state i mean my home state i'm from i'm from Maryland", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i have no idea what the law is anywhere i've ever lived [laughter-i] [laughter-just]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i just [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't know so i i personally uh even though i understand the principle behind capital punishment i don't agree with it ever a[pplying]- applying capital punishment to anyone um because_1 i sort of believe that if we've got a person arrested that sure we can uh we can say you know it's a murderer he's done heinous crimes but we can keep him in jail for the rest of his life and not give him a terribly pleasant existence and uh there's just no reason to justify killing a person a[nd]- you know there may be an economic reason but i don't think that's sufficient to justify uh killing someone if you believe that killing is wrong y[ou]- you might as well apply that to you know even that s[tays]- stays true even if you're punishing someone i know that's how i feel", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i mean it kind of seems going back to uh eye for an eye hand for a hand kind of thing maybe", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't know it's like uh you kind of wonder do you want someone like Jeffrey Dahmer alive or not oh or or Charles Manson", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we[ll]- it's just that i feel like they don't really pose a threat if they're imprisoned you know sufficiently and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know i- i- i guess it would be bad if the politics ever changes and they got out for some reason but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't see it happening [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "like i don't see Charles Manson i think he'll never get out he's he's probably going to be up for parole in a year or so but he's not going to it's not going to happen", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah but the thing is you know when these guys get out it can be so quiet you may not notice i mean if the public doesn't hear about it for some reason i mean the thing is Charles Manson was really publicly well know but if it's somebody who's you know a serial killer but he never was really in the media a lot then when he gets out he still won't be in the media", "role": "user" }, { "content": "this could be", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah so i you know uh it could be bad if somebody got out i guess", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i i st[ill]- i think even if they aren't in the media i don't know if it would happen unless maybe it was uh bureaucracy that got pushed aside and someone said ah we'll let them_1 out", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't know someone i don't know i mean i guess there's are probably are small time serial killers that you don't hear about", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "something um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well there have to be because uh uh i don't know there's like well i don't know the numbers but i mean there's at least dozens of capital punishments every year from what i that's what i think it is and you know you don't hear about all of those", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't know um because_1 i think i don't think they actually execute prisoners v[ery]- too often because_1 there's i mean there's death row there's a lot of time where uh prisoners are kept on death row for a long time i mean yeah there was uh Ted Bundy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "there was uh i mean there was such an outcry to um to execute him because_1 it i mean he was the the crimes he did were just so heinous um now i i think that there's it's just such a controversial thing that it doesn't happen too often i'm not so i i d[on't]- at least at least i don't hear about it that often", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right yeah i do[n't]- i don't know either so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um nah i don't think there's been an execution in my state in a long time that i know of", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i know that like um uh one of the one of the things that that's that's one of the things that the that Amnesty International is against in the United States is capital punishment yeah ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they're against capital punishment oh okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "of any of any kind so that's o[ne]- the one thing they have against the United States one of their gripes ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we[ll]- aren't do a lot of coun[tries]- countries not have capital punishment", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i don't know there might be some that don't", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that'd be interesting to find out who doesn't", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "tough to uh to um what's wo[rd]- i'm looking for uh to justify", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i guess i kind of waver i guess sometimes it's li[ke]- someone like Jeffrey Dahmer you kind of wan[t]-", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": " and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "all right well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean short term i don't think anything's gonna be done about it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "or probably should be done about it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh are you saying you didn't think anything should be done in the short term", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh the short term the recession is getting getting top attention", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well i i think that you're absolutely right there the other thing is is that we've got these um these all these bank defaults going on and and savings and loan defaults and and uh uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and that effectively adds to it whether it's officially on the books or not", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right exactly um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and that's got to be paid", "role": "user" }, { "content": "exactly and and uh so this creates a pretty serious problem that's going to continue to be with us for a while to come um i'm not really uh sure that i even understand why the administration is proposing for instance tax reductions because it seems to me that if if if they're talking about reducing uh the tax that needs to be paid or the t[axes]- taxes currently being paid then that can't it seems to me it can't possibly [vocalized-noise] you know help with the the deficit picture", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it can only hurt the deficit picture", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah exactly", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um and the the severity of the deficit picture already limits the options available or limits the degree of tax cutting you can do without uh bringing on on serious problems for the longer term", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah exactly", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so that that that's the current predicament", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it see[ms]- seems like it's it's a kind of a catch twenty two i mean it's it's the um my understanding is what they're trying t[o]- what what supposedly they're trying to do by reducing taxes is to kind of jump start the economy the idea being that if people have to pay less money in taxes they'll have more money to spend uh and if they have more money to spend then that will be a a spur to productivity particularly commercial productivity uh which in turn will generate revenue but it it seems like like uh it's sort of a uh a sp[iral]- an unending spiral and it it uh i'm i'm not sure that there's any real genuine truth to the uh the idea that that uh that decreasing taxes particularly the kinds that are are being recommended by by the Bush administration and things like capital gains taxes and so forth is going to uh result in substantial amounts of money you know for consumers to spend and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i'm not sure how i feel about tagging them_1 to share the cost of yeah th[e]- the long term quests that tax cuts are worth at this point it's partly a judgment of how bad the recession is", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it uh it would seem to me th[at]- that there are other things that the administration could do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well look first of all you look to the fed to fight the recession as indeed it has with interest rates", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum i think that's been a positive development i think what that's done is it's it's it's helped keep inflation from", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well at the moment we're doing very well on inflation", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah exactly and it's a sort of a piece of luck", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's the sort of upside to the deficit th[at's]- that's the upside to the recession", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah um i don't know what kind of things do you think can be done in in uh in the long term", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " and the longer well can be done or will be done are two different things um at various places to look for for cutting the budget first of all i consider more defense cuts than are already planned", "role": "user" }, { "content": "sure", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "depending on the world situation but there are various other areas such as as farm subsidies that ought to be slashed ah a lot of entitlement programs like education aid i think ah they should've put a in the Reagan administrations took took took [vocalized-noise] layoff such entitlements to the to the poor but left them_1 for the middle class", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "ah in the longer term ah we we we'd do well i think to make to make uh reductions there also somewhat related [vocalized-noise] is to collect money that's owed to the government from various loan programs that people have borrowed", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right i think that i i think that that i agree with you certainly in the second situation and i think certain entitlements i i'm inclined to agree with you too education happens to be one place where i think that we would be foolish to um uh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a lot of the education aid has gone to so called trade schools", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "which are so there not colleges but schools that teach you trades you know beauticians whatever at more and often exists only because of the federal programs that they can take people and tell them they can get loans for their full tuition", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i see what you['re]- i see what you're saying", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "ah and the school gets paid off immediately ah they don't provide very much education and uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and then the and then the people default on the loans", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i i would have to agree with you if there are circumstances like that uh around uh and i i i can't confess to having any substantial knowledge of that sort of thing but but but taking what you're saying at face value then i would have to agree with you completely ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": " okay well what movie have you seen", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think the last one that we actually went to go see well there's two i took my kids to see 101 Dalmatians of course they wanted to see it they had the Disney book and they thought that was wonderful and they loved the dogs and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh it's one of my favorite [laughter-even]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so yes we went with some friends of ours and i was a little worried about my son he's about two and a half and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he's going through a stage right now where he's kind of afraid of dogs barking if he can hear them_1 and can't see them_1", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and he did real good through the whole movie except the part where the dogs are sending the message you know that the the the puppies are missing and it shows the town and you can hear all the barking but you can't see the dogs [laughter] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah [vocalized-noise] a whole lot uh-huh kind of dark uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah so that kind of bothered him but after that he did fine", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] is it well how is he young", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah he'll be three in January", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah okay that makes sense", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well my kids' very favorite and yours may be too young for it was Home Alone", "role": "user" }, { "content": " i loved that movie", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they uh well we do too but they just wanna rent that one that is their very favorite", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] probably gives them ideas of what they wanna do right [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-they] [laughter-think] [laughter-that] [laughter-is] [laughter-so] [laughter-cute] i [laughter-guess] [laughter-so] i guess so [laughter] i guess so we're not real big movie goers ourselves but we did try to go see about a month ago that um Dead Again ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that black and white one and i was not real impressed with it in fact we kept sitting there all through the theater going now what what did that mean wait wait run that back and we couldn't run it back", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wasn't that good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum but we we just kept trying to figure it out until finally toward the end and we thought we were being very quiet this man turned around and said could you all please save that for later and i'm sorry [laughter] so we're just not real big movie goers", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh no well i like to watch the movies but it's gotten so expensive that we wait until they come out on video and we rent them_1", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well that's us too that's us too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and now we did go see Home Alone at the dollar movie and that was just hilarious i died", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i thought that was cute too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and we we did also we went to see What About Bob one night which is a funny funny movie with uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well my husband's name is Bob and he wants to see that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's a funny movie", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah he wanted to see that i thought the funny part in Home Alone was uh that's good for kids is kind of coming up with how they can deal with problems on their own without panicking", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's true", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i thought they could learn a lot of lessons from that the little guy's so cute and he's terribly rich by now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] i hope he stays cute [laughter] not spoiled you know you get to where", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah me [laughter-too] [laughter] oh that's right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the money goes to their heads or goes to something you know they grow up too fast so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh there's a lot i wanna see you know what i try to do when they come out is just make a list of them_1 that look good so that when they come out on video you know i'd like to see Green Card i want to see Awakenings uh i'd like to see Silence of the Lambs", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's right uh-huh Awakening is supposed to be wonderful yeah Awakening is supposed to be wonderful my mom saw that and she said that was an excellent movie", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and see i've had somebody tell me that Regarding Henry you know the Harrison Ford movie is supposed to be really good i'd like to see that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes yes i think that's supposed to be good and i uh we have some doctors at church who said that Doctor was just wonderful um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i've heard that's good yeah so i think there's a bunch of good movies coming out my kids wanna see Rescuers Down Under", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i'm going to ha[ve]- my VCR went on the blitz about two weeks ago so i'm getting it fixed right now because they have their little movies their little you know Disney movies they watch all the time and stuff and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh dear uh-huh well on uh back to your movie you saw that ten thousand uh 101 Dalmatians um uh did you all ever think about purchasing that one when it comes out", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah do you know i look at those like Cinderella came out was for sale and i don't buy them_1 i now i will copy them_1 and rent them_1 and keep them at home but i just have a problem paying twenty five dollars for a movie that i can go down and rent for a dollar [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum uh-huh uh-huh well i understand that too i understand that too now they had", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know and they don't last that long", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum they had Home Alone offered for like i think with the rebate you could get it for nine dollars and i thought well now that's that's close enough to being several you know you could rent it more than on[ce]- more than four times and watch that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh that's pretty decent yeah yeah that that makes it worth it uh but a lot of the Disney movies it's just too expensive and i can rent them_1 or i can make a copy you know my daughter's in love with the Little Mermaid and i have a copy that's just about worn out she's four", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i under[stand]- i understand i understand oh yeah of course uh-huh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so she just thinks the gr[eat]- in fact she told me Mom if we have a little girl and she has red hair we're naming her Aerial now i'm not pregnant mind you but this is she's planning ahead for me yeah so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh [laughter-sweet] [laughter] but that's in her plans [laughter] well it's hard it's hard to find a movie any more these days that you can take your kids ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and even the ones that we rent at home the trouble with some of them i know we rented Adventures in Babysitting thinking that that would be so cute and it's a precious movie but the language in it is just for no reason ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i saw", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "has to stick in", "role": "user" }, { "content": " now see i remember thinking it's a wonderful movie but it's been so long since i watched it i don't remember the language it was bad well that's true", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh well you watch it differently when your kids are in the room you know and i was just sitting there going oh my goodness and i'm going to have to stop and explain and they go i know Mommy i know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh and see my kids weren't in the roo[m]- you're right i watched it without them", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah it's it's real different because you see things from a different different angle", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh we rented this summer before we went on vacation we rented Chevy Chase and that Family Vacation", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and those are just absolutely hilarious but you just really can't watch a lot of that we had to fast forward through a whole lot of it for them to see it [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes yes [laughter] some of it just isn't a", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "i kind of like mysteries like Agatha Christie and that kind of stuff", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh Agatha Christie how about John D Mc[Donald]- uh John D McDonald you ever read him", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no i'd actually i plead my ig[norance]- my know[ledge]- lack of knowledge i'm not familiar with him what is he is he an American novelist", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah he's ve[ry]- he uh of course he he's dead now seems like most of the good ones are", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah i know they don't write anything like they used to the classics", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh he he was he does quite involved mysteries John D McDonald", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and have you been reading him a long time or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yes since we[ll]- way back in high school", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that long [laughter] we won't talk about that [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-oh] [laughter-yeah] yeah that's [vocalized-noise] matter fact that's one of my favorite hobbies is uh reading", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i'm that's one of mine my husband's a little more inclined toward that but i'm not real uh interested in self-improvement books at all i think everything's too topical nowadays", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yep for when i read i read for enjoyment or escapism and i", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah and i like a lot of things that are uh have to do with politics and uh history there was one a few years ago called the Public Palace about what goes on at the Pentagon", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "did you rea[d]- are you do you interested in stuff like that or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i ha[ve]- i ha[ve]- i have been in the military so i'm well aware of the Public Palace [laughter-yeah]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay [laughter] then you probably know even more than i do [vocalized-noise]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i[t]- it was quite it was quite amusing i used to i was in Viet Nam for a couple of years plus extension", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i don't know [vocalized-noise] have there been any good b[ooks]- books published on that i know World War two my dad was a uh paratrooper in airborne one oh hundred and one um but i don't think they have done anything good on Viet Nam", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh um-hum they've got several out uh there's one called Embassy House by uh Profit that's quite good i was involved with the Phoenix program and stuff of that that nature", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh and is it true i mean is it um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's fairly facts whoever he talked to knew what uh the had had been in the program uh it [vocalized-noise] that it was probably factual he's kind of overdone a lot of it but um but you have to do that to make the books", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum i- i kind of one of my interests is um i've i'm interested in law and uh i just got a book for Christmas called Law and Order it's the history of the justice system and tracks um the the history of uh crimes and of", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "things that have impacted just the the you know evolution of um how we punish people and why things are um judged the way they are", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i hadn't heard that one i hadn't uh got too heavy into law and order deal most of mine i'm afraid i go either mysteries or uh action adventure stuff", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh action adventure i probably you're not talking your Danielle Steele female by any means but on the other hand um i won't uh i can't uh Sidney Sheldon's does come off the shelf [laughter] for light reading for", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] he's uh i read those uh actually i think my favorite author really right now is uh William Johnstone", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he writes the uh [vocalized-noise] action series", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum i've heard again i'm not familiar with reading him but i've heard of him", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he's got about twelve out now and it starts out with uh you know after the big war and everything's blown up and he the[n]- he's kind of [vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a real positive", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it's kind of it follows his his travels throughout the world", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "there's one a book i just got i got it as a gift and i just started it's a little bit heavy but it was kind of interesting it um was on the best seller list for a while there it's called The Closing of the American Mind a little bit heavy about political philosophy", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah um-hum those i those i can read for a while but i got to stop and go you know walk around something", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's kind of what's happ[ened]- it kind of does happen yeah uh i'm trying to think of any self-improvement books i've [laughter-read]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i've tried to do some of those but a[fter]- a[fter]- a[fter]- after after i read them a while i thought maybe i don't need improvement that bad after all", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's exactly right it's kind of like all the talk shows i think i got to get", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they kind of drag on did you read that one uh let's see uh that the Arab guy wrote that the Abdul is going to come uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh um no i didn't but i- i- i have it and i haven't read it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah we got at TI to drive into town and almost buy it undercover at the time they were doing it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's exactly what happened to us we were living um in Minneapolis at the time and we were getting ready to come back to Texas um and i went i mean into a Waldon's and stood in line for like six hours it seemed like but i haven't read it there is a good one out though that we've had for a few years that i've actually read more than once it's called The Kingdom of Sound", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it is re[ally]- really good about the um Saudis and just tracking their families and the Arabian culture", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i've read that i i got uh i got the interested in when Saddam Hussein came to power i got interested in him and started reading some of his some of the books on him the man's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's well written actually and i think there're going to be more [laughter-huh]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yes the man's just probably totally insane", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] that's too bad that's not the topic i [laughter-know] self-improvement i think is the only one i got something like that when i got i'd been out of school for quite a while i think um back when it was again real topical um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh women my age about then were maybe having trouble with parents or mothers and a friend of mine bought me something called My Mother and Myself and i tried to read it and i went this is i did the same thing i went this isn't anything [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "have you read Tom Clancy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh yeah yeah in fact i just started her a friend a friend of ours turned me on to that i always i always looked at spy novels and went eh [laughter] military stuff just never really did anything to me unless it was history", "role": "user" }, { "content": "which one did you get", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the um China the red the [vocalized-noise] i think it was the right author you'll have to help me out here", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Hunt Hunt for Red October", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "Hunt for Red October the one i went to see the movie for", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah that was good uh he's got [vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i was a little bit bored with it compared to some of the other stuff that i've heard he'd done", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he's uh that's one of the better ones uh i've got i think my favorite that he's done is is A Clear and Present Danger", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yes that one i've we actually have that one my husband's read that it that one seems like it might be a little more interesting", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's pretty factual he's got one out i'm trying to remember what it's called it has to do with with airplanes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh boy", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i started in reading it a fr[iend]- a friend of mine whose a pilot gave it to me he said uh he said it's a wonderful book you'll love it i started reading it and he went of course he goes into such great detail", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh that's what i- i was impressed with how much documenting he does", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know and i and it lost me", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "how much how much um he's so much like Michener he's not as bad in terms of going into so much depth but he he's i like the way he writes and if it's not something that moves with me in the first two or three chapters something like that i just won't keep it you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i can't uh i can't stay with it too long either but that [vocalized-noise] that i- i read about fifty pages and then i just said i can't take it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] that's", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i just i can't keep all these butt[ons]- you know knobs and dials and gauges that are supposed to mean anything i don't want to i can't understand them_1", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and his action anecdotes weren't very good at all he he had he jumps around he in that particular book i don't know how his other ones are but in that one he jumped around a little bit", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "in terms of subways and just [vocalized-noise] just the general transition i mean it i didn't you know i really [vocalized-noise] you have to be interested in the subject too i think that was part of my problem", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah oh yeah it's there was just too much detail there for the for the neophyte", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "anything to be real interesting yeah well it's good to talk to somebody i don't read as much as i used to um my husband's a TIer and i'm in journalism so i do a lot of writing um during the normal course of my job and it's kind of um sad when you find out the you know i thought i would get more toward reading and i'm getting less", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it's well there's so many authors out now though of course i've got several favorites that i collect uh Eric Van Lust[bader]- Lustbader", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "any of all years um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he's got several out that i like and uh matter fact", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and what line does he write under what genre does he", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he's got uh he's kind of um mystic oriental", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he has one called The Ninja", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and then then Michael The Sirens uh Black Heart then there's uh yeah i think uh i think you'll enjoy him", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that might be kind of interesting is it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh The Ninja is of course The Ninja and the Michael are you know one and two of the volumes and then he went off and wrote uh The Gem Zero and The French Kiss and several others and The White Ninja has just hit paperback i understand", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum and does he uh in terms of th[eir]- in terms of their practices and and their culture i mean does he does he document it or is it strictly", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah oh no he no he's uh he's heavy into Japanese culture", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he's heavy into Japanese culture uh along with uh the Ninja the arts of Ninja and uh all all the various uh martial arts", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "does he tell it in narrative form or in third person how does he present it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's uh it fluctuates you kind of get uh fl[ashbacks]- you get some flashbacks but you can really tell it's a flashback because the print goes to italic", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh and then you still get information too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and then you get information too and it's kind of in a flashback and it it's told uh more or less third person singular", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and what's his name again", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Eric Van Lustbader", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "V[an]- Van Lustbader okay ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah spelled as you would expect", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [vocalized-noise]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it it's you know Van and then Lustbader B A D E R", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "Lustbader i'm going to write that one down yeah because", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he's he's very interesting i th[ink]- i think you'll enjoy him", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "looking for something different yeah it's you know you walk into a store and you just like you said you're overwhelmed by how much there is and you just i don't know if you're like me you you you're mo[re]- much more voracious in terms of how much reading you're doing obviously but i go in and i like", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to me it's like being in a bakery but then i just don't find anything i like i pick up like eighteen things and then i'm not sure so i walk out", "role": "user" }, { "content": "do you like do you like kind of like the historical western or something of that nature", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh no that's more no that's not i do actually i like Asian cultures [vocalized-noise] that why i was that's funny that you mentioned that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh you'll then you'll like O'Leary he's he's he's quite good at it i've got into one that i didn't think i would it's a i'm not it's a kind of a historical Indian novel thing by Donald Colesmith", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "called The Trail of the Spanish Bit and it's called The Spanish Bit Saga", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i thought that was uh do you like Michener at all", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "he's good did you ever read he wrote Texas a few years ago", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i read that one uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that was good and Poland yeah and i've done some of those yeah i like i like things that are those are a few of the ones i can take of his i like it when they actually are giving you information in a novel format i guess would be the", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you might try Colesmith try and find his uh Spanish Bit Saga it's called the it's called The Trail of the Spanish Bit is the first yeah by by Donald Colesmith he's a he's a", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "Trail of the Spanish Bit okay yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "professor of of English in Emporia Kansas and uh he he's been a doctor and a gunsmith and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum oh my", "role": "user" }, { "content": "all kinds of stuff and uh he he writes it it's it's history from the Indians point of view starting back when they first got the horse when they first captured the Spaniards", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it just kind of follows forward and i got i got hooked on it and there's like about sixteen or eighteen", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": " well let's see my husband does the majority of the um the uh gardening um taking care of the lawn and fertilizing but i um tend to all the planting the annuals and and the spraying and um taking care of them and maybe putting flowers in you know throughout that season and later on maybe planting some mums and that kind of stuff and um any kind of decorating for the holidays you know i'll fix the porch up with pumpkins for Halloween and Christmas but basically he does all the heavy stuff and i do all the fun stuff [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] well we have it just opposite here my wife works in you know at at at the TI and she's uh sedentary all day long", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so when she gets home she likes to mow", "role": "user" }, { "content": " i say", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and we have about ten acres and she tries to mow about half of it ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wow wow that's a a big job", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well yeah it keeps uh well it's doing real well because when we got this place the the dirt was just overgrazed", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean you know it was bare dirt in a lot of places", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and now you know since we've been mowing it and you know of course we water a little bit but that's just too much to water all at once but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh sure", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but just by keeping it mowed and getting it mulched in we've reclaimed a lot of it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i bet it's beautiful ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah but we don't do much in the way of uh flowers we have one little flower garden that we that we work with the rest of it is just like wild flowers", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum wild flowers", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and in the summertime we get the prettiest yellow flowers", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they're about oh i guess a third the size of your palm of your hand", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum oh that sounds lovely", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and of course in the spring we get the bluebonnets and Indian paintbrush", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh the wild flowers are beautiful i think um i was thinking about throwing some for in the back just where the kids um just way in the back behind the swing sets so that just have some wild flowers growing back there would be real pretty then you don't really have to have much maintenance involved", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well my wife and i really enjoy that sort of thing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh she enjoys mowing i can't believe it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh i know a lot of [laughter-uh-huh] a lot of women do uh um i've just never really you know maybe one of these days i'll have to get out there and mow but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean i hate it [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um my husband takes [vocalized-noise] that and i'll help rake up the grass and um sometimes i'll help him edge um because we don't have that much property but we're on a corner lot so there's a lot of edging to do and um ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh that's what's nice about living more in the country you don't have to worry about any of that [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] we don't even have any concrete or asphalt", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh oh that's nice i this is different for us because the other [vocalized-noise] the past we've had homes that haven't had any side walks and um it's been a little more country with the trees and we do miss that um if we had a chance to move i think we'd move back to somewhere that it was little more countrified and a little less maintenance required", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah but you know we do everything together this this spring we got a thousand pine trees from the actually this fall what am i talking about two weeks ago", "role": "user" }, { "content": "as as far as that goes um-hum wow", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we got a thousand pine trees from the you know soil and conservation people", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh we're in the process of of planting", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wow that's a", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and we're building a stand uh just to the north of our house and along the east uh property line ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i uh i think what we're what we're trying to do is create sort of a wind break", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because i'll tell you in winter time when that w[ind]- when that wind comes out of the north it just cuts right through you like you're not even there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so on the other side of the house though that's where we have all the the delicate flowers and the mums and we have morning glory and we have trumpet vine and moon flowers", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i took um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and we planted those out by the septic so that uh they get plenty of water and we get hummingbirds come in the spring you know all summer long", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh oh that sounds so pretty", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and well when we leave the doors open they fly in the house", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh [laughter-really] do they don't do any damage though they just fly right back out if you have the", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] well yeah they don't like it in here because_1 there's nothing to eat", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i say", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and when you're as busy as one of those babies you got to eat most of the time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i say ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and we've got a few you know we put up some hummingbird feeders and some bird feeders but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know for the most part gardening for us is well we got asparagus and uh we've got some plum trees and some apple trees some tomato ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and some blackberries and strawberries man we get the best strawberries that you just can't believe", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh oh that sounds wonderful", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah we just got our last tomatoes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i love home gr[own]- grown tomatoes there's nothing like them they just don't have the same ones in the supermarket [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well these are accidental tomatoes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what does that mean accidental tomatoes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well last year the birds came and ate a few of the tomatoes course you're gonna lose some that way", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and the seeds go right through them_1", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i say", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and wherever they pooped", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": " there you go first question do you own your house", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah uh right well we try [laughter] i mean it's a big mortgage in the sky and someday maybe we might even own it but um for all practical purposes i guess we hold the mortgage [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] [laughter] our name is on the bill so that implies ownership", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah [laughter-right] no one else has offered to [laughter-pay] [laughter-for] [laughter-it]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right and i wouldn't object if anybody did", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah really they could move right into the spare [laughter-room]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well we've we had this one for five years now before that we lived in Garland uh probably about you know four blocks away liked the area chose to stay inside of Spring Park it's a uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't know if you have been up here but it is a residential homeowners association so there's a lot of you know activities a lot of pluses and common land", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh we thought we were buying at the bottom of the market you know it could not possibly have gone any lower and so we were wrong [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh five years ago yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i think what it bottom out about a ye[ar]- year later", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it well i mean just recently i would say i would give it two years back when it was i think bottomed out", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oddly enough two years you know i- i think that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but maybe not in your area see it was just different areas", "role": "user" }, { "content": "not in in in this area because_1 this is about like the", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's a really nice area besides it's you know it's not it's not Richardson is it it's still considered Garland", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah no it's it's Richardson it's uh Richardson and hold on a second <b_aside> Paul i can hear you perfectly perfectly well i don't want to hear you you are being rude whatever you ask or scream when i'm on the phone the answer is no do you understand <e_aside>", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "how does that sound", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "there you go write that one down it sounded good to me [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah there i go yeah yeah well i hate to say how long that will last too no this area up here is uh all custom homes and it's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i- i don't think that many by the builder that we that built this house and we were not the first people the first owners i think we are the third owners it was built by the architect for himself", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "who never moved into it who sold it to a couple who had no idea that homes ever needed upkeep ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-oh] [laughter-no]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah caulking windows was a great mystery to them you know you know they just watched the water pour in on the carpet but it's a Sharif Myneer Homes if that means anything it did not really mean anything to me except i liked it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh gee i- i- i kept thinking of Omar Sharif every time i saw that name [laughter-somewhere] [laughter-so]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he builds eight hundred thousand dollar houses now i think he got out of the lower end market and decided but the houses here in in this class of housing never dropped to below two hundred", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh oh wow", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well [laughter] but still i know that this one was built for two ninety nine which is nowhere near what we paid for it and i think or somebody told me it's also on a creek side lot heavily wooded off the golf course ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right oh great", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and the guy around the corner is being transferred so he said uh well he did comparable that it's about eighty dollars i think it was i don't remember if he said it was sixty dollars a square foot off the creek and eighty on the creek or if it was eighty and a hundred i think it was sixty eighty", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well yeah probably eighty sixty eighty", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well because i know our our little house over here stuck in the middle of you know the subdivision is i think fifty five so i think the high end is definitely you know somewhere around there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well try and think if it was a hundred dollars a square foot no it could not be because this house is around thirty four hundred square feet and it would never sell for three hundred forty thousand dollars just never", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well", "role": "user" }, { "content": "now maybe you know that's that's pretty close to what it would have sold for uh brand new or and that's pretty much what it was built for it's got an awful lot of nice things in it but you know i don't think i think it's going to be a long time if ever when nice things and really quality construction and all the other additional amenities are really uh desirable it's seems like people go for square footage only now and uh because_1 have you been back to the Perry Homes back here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [vocalized-noise] um the ones that look like brick houses [laughter] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the one that looks like Monopoly apartments", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] right yeah i think those are awful [laughter] i'm sorry i just don't see the designer's i- i just see him as trying to squish as much space you know as much house into the space as possible", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they are huge when you are inside them_1 they're very spacious they're you know i was i was in one today it was forty two hundred square feet", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah ooh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well see that's the house that we got is small enough so my husband and i because_1 there's just the two of us and the two cats um can yell at each other from one end to the other and be heard and we thought that was important instead of [laughter-getting] swallowed up in something that you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "see when you have kids you like to be able to send them some place where they can yell and you won't hear them but i have been watching these houses go up and i- i", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's [laughter-true]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "don't well somebody was telling me i know somebody who lives back there i've always questioned the quality of construction and i- i don't think they exceed more than twelve nails per house", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "when you watch them_1 go up you are just amazed that they do not fall over and it takes them_1 something like thirty days to complete a house", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah oh that's amazing right now in fact even as we speak we are having a deck put on in back and these guys are phenomenal they just they they are doing such a terrific job back there i mean you know y[ou]- you pay for it too but it's it's like really worth it they are putting in a deck a redwood deck and it's just", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they are doing such a fine fine job and i'm really excited about it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we've got three different levels of decking because this lot slopes way back down and and the house is built around the trees", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh great", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and with these deck[ing]- decking that a corporation and a large area for the trees to come up so it's real real shady but that's one of the few things that really uh immediately pays back on return but what i was going to tell you these Perry Homes back there", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "when the people from MCI come down and they are you know they're used to the the Virginia area metropolitan DC my God they come down here and and those houses that that look like to them the colonial look like what the ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh looks like the George Town [laughter-Brownstone] yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right and the idea of ever owning anything that has four thousand square feet in it for less than two hundred twenty thousand dollars which is probably about what their equity is that they got out of selling their house those things are selling like hot cakes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "must be a dream come true yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but one of the people that was living back there was telling me that there is his air conditioning bill per month last summer was in excess of five hundred dollars a month and i thought", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] i can't", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and he was talking he was talking about how you keep up with the utilities here and i was thinking well you know i know why your God damn bill is so high it's because there's not a there's no insulation insulation in those things", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "he has no insulation [laughter-probably] oh my gosh what a trap [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah any yet you know [vocalized-noise] they they show very well uh they show very well unless you have you know lived in a lot of houses around here or", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and you ask the right questions and can research yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "or looked at a lot of houses around here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i think that makes a big difference but i like i like this area and everything that i've been saying says that it's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i do too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "if i i think if we had to sell now we could come close to breaking even ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but still um it's worth it for the area and for the school [vocalized-noise] things like that ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh you're in you're in the ", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": " music yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "music huh [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] always an interesting topic", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah i uh i have a little bit of an interesting experience with music i've been a part-time disc jockey uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so oh wow", "role": "user" }, { "content": "work for a a company a little company in Virginia that does uh DJ stuff for weddings and uh birthdays and things like that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so we've uh we've had to play quite a bit of of music uh over the past several months so it's interesting to see what people like and that sort of thing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "are you involved at all in music or uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um uh uh a strong appreciator of it um yeah i i did the typical piano thing back uh when i was young and i even played trombone in band for a number of years", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum hum ah hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um but i don't actively uh play anymore i just listen and spend too much money on discs [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah um-hum [laughter-right] yeah it's interesting now there all going to uh CD's now also", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i uh have a little bit of an involvement in uh in square dancing and and round dancing and that's all all a[ll]- still on forty fives", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh so they're they're having an interesting problem when it comes to the music for that because the uh the forty fives are generally played on a variable speed turntable so you can speed it up or slow it down for the dancers and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so now they're wondering how they're going to do that with CD's [laughter] it's going to be a little tougher i[f]- if it ever goes to CD's it's not it hasn't converted over yet but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think the only group of folks that who even use forty fives for music anymore", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um ye[ah]- yeah that's interesting", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i think that even the aerobics people are using uh all their music is on cassettes or CD's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah well th[at]- you know technically it shouldn't be difficult to uh modulate the the speed on on a compact disc yeah ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum right yeah i should be able to and cassettes i know that they do have some that are variable speed", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i think those are machines for for aerobic instructors", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so uh and uh i found that uh at least at the things i've {DJed} people like music they can dance to [laughter] if you can get them to dance", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's kind of the hard part uh at these parties they tend to want to sit around or stand around and talk or uh drink and talk or whatever and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and then getting them to dance and then they they have different taste in dance music some of them like the fast stuff and some the slow and the", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we're kind of uh into oldies right now in ou[r]- in our family for some reason we're most of what we listen to is oldies", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hum-um um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so and yourself you you just uh mostly listen then yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah um i guess i'm towards the uh other end of the spectrum um i listen to a lot of uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hum hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "techno dance um you know electronic compilations things like that uh really alternative and and progressive music", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum hum uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's kind of the other end of the spectrum for [laughter-you]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i've got uh some albums i've picked up that i've kind of recently gotten interested in it's uh the uh African music", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh there's a a group that Paul Simon has uh featured uh well on his album Graceland", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's called Lady Smith Black Membazo", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they're a uh African uh group that sings a cappella", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah they're a very good group", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum much of their music is sung in Zulu in the Zulu language so that's uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's a an interesting and uh i guess it kind of falls into the i guess the reggae category uh whatever that is [laughter] i'm not quite sure what reggae is actually", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah th[at]- th[at]- [laughter] [laughter] um that's that's more like Bob Marley and the Whalers um a lot of the other Jamaican uh groups i[t's]- so it's a strongly Jamaican based music", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum ah ha uh-huh hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um but it it's it's interesting too i'm not terribly familiar with with reggae itself i know it's influenced a lot of of stuff especially some of the more modern dance stuff they take a lot of the more complicated rhythm structures", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh from reggae and try to translate that into uh more current hits", "role": "user" }, { "content": " you ever hear of a musical from called Zydeco i had never heard of it before", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um i've heard of it but i couldn't give you a definition [laughter-of] [laughter-it]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum we had uh what were we doing we were {DJing} a uh i think it was a company party and they had gotten a request for some of that so i did a little research on it it's uh Louisiana", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the uh French uh Cajun music", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay okay yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and that's that's called Zydeco i'd never heard of that term before", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh and i i was able to listen to a few tapes from the library of of what it was like and it was definitely different [laughter] Cajun type music i'd never actually even heard it be[fore]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum yeah", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "so what do you think about the uh income taxes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i could do with a lot less than that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "where do you live", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i live in Dallas", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay i live in Dallas too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh good well i live in Plano in that case [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " okay i live in uh in the Village do you know where that is i-", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah i do yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well one thing i can tell you i hate about the taxes in Dallas is the eight and a quarter percent sales tax", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it i think it's like the highest in the US because my sister lived in New York and it was only seven percent there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "Washington DC was only six percent and where i moved from Virginia was only four and a half percent and i can tell you we were upset when it went to four and a half", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it was only four percent", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and you know we had no sales tax here about oh i don't know maybe ten years ago we had none at all and that's how it started with uh four percent five percent", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and all of a sudden here we are now", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it's horrible", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what since there's no uh state tax i assume that that's why it went up fast because_1 Virginia does have a state tax", "role": "user" }, { "content": " well it's true but they did without it all those years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum hm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they keep talking about the state tax and they'll probably put one in and they'll have this too so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " yeah it if they put state tax in i mean i'll be pretty upset", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because_1 i mean part of the reason part of the incentives of moving to Texas from Virginia was the fact that you have no state tax and basically it adds about sixty dollars to your paycheck", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh every two weeks and uh if that comes back in", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'll be pretty mad because_1 sixty dollars a paycheck is a lot of money actually you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so uh i don't know i'm not very much for a for state tax", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i hope it doesn't but you know how it goes so [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah they keep talking about uh you know the light rail system adding taxes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and then uh there was another issue that came up i forget uh the horse racing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they're putting up the the racing fees they said they may raise taxes because_1 of that yeah they said uh to build okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "raise them", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "apparently they said the builders would provide thirty million dollars in funds and the state would need to provide sixty five million dollars in funds", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well in order to get the sixty five million dollars it would cause an increase in taxes but it seems like it would pay itself off", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh well it will", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so you know [laughter] what's the purpose of the increasing the sales tax you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "probably the first season", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah so you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but they're funny about things like that here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah things like that you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they really are when i came here you couldn't buy beer couldn't buy a drink [laughter] nothing was open on Sunday not even a grocery store i mean nothing nothing you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum [laughter] no huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so it was a lot worse and as more people come in it does get better but they still have some real funny laws", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum i mean you know federal tax i mean everybody has to pay standard around the US and that doesn't bother me that much you know the you buy a house you cut your taxes a little bit the rest of it you pay what you owe", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh like sales tax and i where i lived in uh in Virginia they had personal property tax in the counties", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and that was a lot my parents paid almost four thousand dollars a year in personal property tax on the house they paid almost a thousand dollars on uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh that is", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "on two of our cars and they paid like a couple hundred dollars on the other cars but the personal property tax itself used to add up", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know just i mean itself would probably add up to seven or eight thousand dollars a year", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hm yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and that's a lot of money you know most places go ahead and just you know put it into your mortgage payment so you don't forget about it at the last minute you know and have to come up with the funds at the end of the year", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that is yeah hm", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but that gets real expensive", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah that is", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "do they have that kind of tax down here on the houses at all do you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh uh they well they do a little bit but um it's it's like next to nothing i've seen it it's on my when you pay your registration and stuff like that there is a little place", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um um-hum well you know like every year they renew the registration here kind of like fifty or sixty bucks ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh it costs what", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so it's only like fifty or sixty bucks to renew your registration here but in Virginia they won't renew your registration till you pay your pr[operty]- personal property tax", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i had a i- [vocalized-noise] i paid you know twelve hundred dollars [laughter-a] [laughter-year] for my last car", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "for personal property tax alone so that was kind of a relief i guess", "role": "user" }, { "content": "God", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's not too bad but other than that everything worked out", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah so you haven't been here very long", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what's that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you haven't been here very long", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i've been here about two years now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "two years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh in the two years i've i've been here i've been through i've had two cars", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i've never really like you know i don't know if they if they ever will assess a personal uh any kind of tax", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "on the car other than what i paid when i r[egistered]- uh registered the car", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so that's the only thing i can really think of so so do you work for TI or you just doing this", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no i don't i'm a nurse i work down at Presbyterian", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay yeah someone just mentioned this program to me so i thought it'd be kind of cool", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah oh it is you know they're supposed to cut you off at ten calls at least that's what i heard that you c[ould]- could get to do ten calls ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh do they really yeah i- i don't know how the thing works uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and this is like the seventeenth", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really [laughter] all right you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah so it's great", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "and i have to admit that we just moved to Plano recently and that i hadn't voted in an election yet and although i did go down and register and i that's the first time i've ever done that ha[s]- what's been your voting experience", "role": "user" }, { "content": "my voting experience", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] well do you feel like uh i mean i", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i- i well personally i've been very diligent until recent years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "when i felt my vote was absolutely kind of washed down the drain", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "for the issues that you know that i felt really strong for um i think apathy has set in to a lot of people because of the way our politicians are and the way our country is being run", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " um-hum that's really true that's kind of the way that i have felt it i also feel guilty um not knowing and not going the extra mile myself and studying out the issues and studying out the candidates course we only have mostly the representation given in the media but um i have felt since i've been here that i haven't known what the issues were and that i because_1 it was a new community", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you really do have to study to get yourself um up to par with what is truly going on and that takes a lot of research and and people today are very busy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum it does", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh and that is an excuse because we are we are always uh invo[lved]- i know i'm heavenly involved in other things", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and to take time out and uh study the issues in depth would take quite a bit of time and i don't have the time to devote to that ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum no", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh you hopefully -[wi]ll find that you want the candidates that are running to be honest and aboveboard and unfortunately they are not", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum no", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh it's really a dilemma uh that we find ourselves in i believe um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i kind of just have taken a back step away and uh hopefully that someone will clean up the mess that's there", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "take it i[t]- because it is a task that is to me kind of overwhelming", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes and uh and uh i also feel especially in the presidential elections that uh since we're back on the old system of electoral votes and or that and that you don't necessarily your vote doesn't necessarily elect a president", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right they just want to see how close the [laughter-electoral] [laughter-votes] are with the public votes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right and it's kind of it's awful and and it's hard to feel like one person but i know that it's important", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i feel guilty that i haven't done that here haven't taken the time and i know that you know people can make a difference but it's hard to to face the corruption like you say and uh and to know what you're up against and it makes me feel bad that i'm glad i mean i am thankful for the uh [laughter] nineteenth amendment that it gives women the right to vote and uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'm glad that that happened", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and everything and i hope that i will become a better make a better difference in but i haven't done that so far", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i know that when you're in a smaller community i live in Mesquite and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "when we have uh a local election say for our mayor and so forth", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they really uh give a lot of information in the local newspaper not in the not in the bigger city Dallas newspaper i mean they they just give it a small portion of the newspaper but the local newspaper really goes into uh quite a bit of history about the candidate", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh and then they have they raise a they raise two sides and uh there's a pro and a con side and uh you can really um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "feel comfortable in uh evaluating that uh candidate by uh that method", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i feel pretty confident about the way it's put forth now i wouldn't say that about the larger cities though and the and the country uh like the presidential", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i mean they've got people that are running that are admitted uh criminals and admitted [laughter-crooks] you know i'm sorry but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't believe in them turning a good uh uh a new leaf", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "unless they have the Lord that has done that to them_1", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh without the Lord they can't do it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah and it's not very likely i mean it seems like th[eir]-", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "okay movies i've i haven't seen too many lately i have kids and we went and saw The Rescuers Down Under over the the break do do you have kids you take to movies or", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh no no kids", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it's a Wa[lt]- Walt Disney movie and it didn't get as you know as good a reviews as like the Little Mermaid the last one and got all kinds of Academy Awards and things last year but this one was i thought was excellent the i can't both", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "was that the animated version", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it's animated and i can't believe how good they're getting with their animation now it's just just the special effects you know and in this movie this there's this boy and he rescues this uh bald eagle and uh and it's a huge eagle you know wing span of twenty feet or something like that and the boy actually rides on his back and he rides through the clouds you know and you see him coming out of the clouds his head coming out and then the bird coming out and it you know they're flying all over with it and i mean i know there they there must have used been computers or something for animation this day but it was just so real realistic and lifelike and good animation what a good show", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "even better than Roger Rabbit insofar as animation", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well Roger was a composite one there's one there's a movie i've seen Roger Rabbit that's not a recent movie", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh i enjoyed that show", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that was made in a few i don't know several years back i guess", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "latest latest one i've saw which was a mistake to go see was Lionheart had Claude Van Damme", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "he was he's of course uh i guess he's trained in this uh martial arts of some sort but the plot was bland the acting was bland It was just mostly centered upon his abilities to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "chop them up huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah chop them up exactly and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] this is supposed to be the the guy that's uh replaces Bruce Lee or whatever or or the next Chuck Norris", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "type guy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "or he's singular i guess you know you know how they can make any of any single one of them in a movie to be a super", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh superstar", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "superstar of any sort you know but Chuck Norris of course could be just about equal if not more", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and all of them i guess could be in that fashion or category", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hum uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it was about uh a French Foreign Legion fellow", "role": "user" }, { "content": "keeps trying", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "who deserts to go help his brother's wife who got who became a widow because he was selling drugs [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and he got killed", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really uplifting huh [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so he deserts and goes to New York and he starts out by fighting to make money and then he moves on to L A to where that where she is to just help him out", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it was really i mean the Hollywood really must think there's some real dummies out there or something i don't know [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i haven't heard i hadn't heard much about that movie i other than it was a chop them up movie but uh well i guess that's one i won't go see [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well it was worth the buck i guess", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh you went to the dollar movie yeah yeah they show up at the dollar movie right after they get come out you know they're usually not not that great or didn't do that great anyway let me see let me see another movie i watched uh i want to see is uh that new one uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a lot of", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that won all those Academy Awards this year Dances With Wolves i haven't seen that have you seen that one yet", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what what what", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i i absorbed all of that movie in one sitting uh i guess what made it so good was the cinema[tography]- cinematography", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the the wide open you know spaces", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah and the music and uh well it had an excellent story line Everything about it was good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um i thought an excellent one too was misery with Kathy Bates and James Caan i'm not a James Caan fan but that was a well directed and acted movie", "role": "user" }, { "content": "is that right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'd recommend it It's a little on the violent side", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but then what movie isn't anymore", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right yeah our movies today it used to be X and you know and PGs used to be Rs and seems like the rating system you know is kind of switching that way a [laughter-little] [laughter-bit]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i have no objections to it It's just uh and it's a matter of your taste uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah oh yeah it's just that yeah it's just that the rating system seems you know instead of having X now they have what NC seventeen", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they just changed it because X had a connotation with it you know so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and even on those type they don't show what you expect", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right a lot of those are really violent type movies", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really gory um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that seems to be the norm of most movies but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what the hey this is America", "role": "user" }, { "content": "let me see let me see one movie i saw i guess it was a while back Red October have you seen that one", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yes i have that was pretty good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i read the book before so i knew the story line going in but they changed some things in the movie wasn't the same i thought the book was better than the movie but i thought the movie was really good as well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i always wait for the movie i don't have time to read the book", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i don't i read about one or two thick novels like that a year", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know that's about all the time i can i can spare but that was a good show i thought you know i read about how they did uh an article on how they did all the special effects with the submarine you know that wasn't a real submarine you saw in the water it was it was all done in studio with smoke and mirrors and all the Hollywood magic it all those underwater scenes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i thought you know it looked to me like it was a real submarine", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they did me to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that was in the water you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's the magic of Hollywood special effects i hear this movie F X part two coming out is uh pretty good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah is that right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "did you ever see the original one", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i didn't", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it was uh you ought to rent the uh F X part one It doesn't say part one but it it's F slash X", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh what's that about", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a uh special effects man who somehow gets involved in this um oh i'm not sure i can't remember It's been a while since i've seen it But he he gets involved in some sort of bad dealings with somebody and he has to go underground and he uses all of his special effects knowledge in doing what needs to be done", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hm", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "to to fool people and and things huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right and using makeup and using the", "role": "user" }, { "content": "all the tricks", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "all the props and whatever to get to where he needs to go", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh that sounds like an interesting concept", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but you need to rent the first one first", "role": "user" }, { "content": "to understand what's going on the second", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh if if that is that the second one follows the first i don't know if they have the uh original actors on that first one to that one", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh they're supposed to be coming out with all these Desert Storm movies", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i expected those i mean Hollywood i mean they were doing their dealings with that before they even got over there i think", "role": "user" }, { "content": "this summer too [laughter] yeah [laughter] yeah well they had some in some of those you know they i guess they retitled some movies that were going to be about Lebanese and and you know and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and Americans and they decide oh make it Iraqis and Americans you know and they just change the title and uh and reshot a few parts you know where they yeah you know where they could i guess they figured we wouldn't can't tell the difference between an", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "actual names will not be used", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "eventually i'm sure they will come out with the the the proper names", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah right it was such a it i guess they they'll probably come out with a lot of movies you know it was it was such a rout though you know i don't know you know they probably do the story of someone who was shot down early in the war or something and how he survived or", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "latest story", "role": "user" }, { "content": "or about or about those two newsmen or whatever that got captured", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh Kevin Costner i understand is supposed to be play Schwartzkopf supposedly", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] is that right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't know that's just one of the many rumors that floats around", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "or what you read", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum well i think we've probably", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "pretty much used up the tape i guess", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah it's been about five minutes it's been nice talking with you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "same and uh we'll", "role": "user" }, { "content": "keep on watching those movies huh [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] talk to you on the next go around", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay bye-bye", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "adios", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "well i- i been uh i've probably had more time than you have to think about this subject so i'll tell you i[s]- is it a serious problem yes i do believe it's a serious problem however there are solutions to it ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and foremost uh where we compare w[e]- that we are now doing fifty percent of our uh people are voting uh we're probably making a comparison against uh some European and uh and uh uh say newer republics that uh that have very high percentages", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh so uh one of the reasons that that uh o[ne]- one of the reasons that we could get uh one of the reasons that it is lower in the United States is that mostly we hold it on Tuesdays God knows why we hold it on Tuesdays and then we further complicate it by saying you know we'll keep the polls open until eight o'clock", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "most people uh a great number of people now work at various at different jobs that if a third of the people are shift workers they won't be able to get to the to the polls in any case if they uh have to work late into the evening and not get up", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "my solution to that is that we hold it on Sundays as do probably sixty to seventy percent of the European countries now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh really they hold it on the weekends", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they hold it on the week no they hold it on a either a Saturday or a Sunday or at least a day when when uh a great number of people aren't working in in America that's not true because a a great number of people work on Sundays", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Sunday uh-huh huh well uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but but that's one of my solutions so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i- i know here in Dallas that they've just instituted in the last couple of years a um a real long period of time that you can absentee vote before the elections and they i don't think they've seen a really high improvement ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "have you absentee voted in in in Texas well i have absentee voted in uh New Hampshire and it's a fairly fairly complicated process where you have to go pick up the ballot", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no no i always vote oh really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't say it's that complicated but part of the process also is that you must register preregister at some particular point New Hampshire is fairly easy but other states you have to register every couple of years and uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hum to absentee vote specifically", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well to vote to vote to just vote so registrations are perhaps a a problem also and we're the mobile mobile society uh people are always mo[bile]- you know one out of every seven people moves [laughter-every] [laughter-year]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh that's almost a fourteen percent turnover every you know if you compound that that uh if it is difficult to register to vote that would remove your eligibility to vote", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum but i don't think it's difficult enough to prevent people who are motivated in the first place who or who are not just motivated who really believe that their they", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well", "role": "user" }, { "content": "their voice is heard i mean and the people that i've talked to", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well maybe that's another factor the motivational factor the motivational factor is probably i", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right i think that is the biggest one that's the biggest problem i", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well that's diminished by w[e]- we've noticed this in particular i i'm just read two books one of them is Whose Stars and Stripes Now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the uh trivial pursuit of the presidency in nineteen eighty eight it's a fairly decent book i mean it's uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh really hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's preceded by uh several other books by these guys uh Wake Me Up When It's Over was about the eighty four elections and i forget what [laughter-the] [laughter-other] [laughter-books] [laughter-were] but any case uh i[t]- i[t]- it's uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh the [vocalized-noise] uh uh there was the Blue Smoke and Mirrors was the one in eighty two uh they these guys uh have taken the place of Theodore White on reporting elections in any case they say that uh there's a definite trend uh well you know toward candidates using negative voting it's the only way that you can use television effectively", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't understand that why do uh is that just because they have such a low opinion of the public and the public's um gullibility", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no the public would rather hear something negative about the other guy th[an]- uh than than a positive factor and y[ou]- and you know to if you if you go on the attack and and put some sensational thing before the public as Mike Dukakis learned in the last campaign and it's not refuted people will you know uh believe it if you don't refute it as he didn't that that there must be some truth to the matter see ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well he did refute it he he refuted it just wasn't effective enough to", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well he didn't refute it until the last two weeks of the campaign he didn't believe anybody would believe that and indeed his trend started upward", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well that see i- i didn't believe anybody would believe that either i- i- i guess i have i have a hard time coming to terms with the the fact that the American public really ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well they do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "was you know so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well don't give too much credit to the American public for their motivational ability and and and it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well then how can a democracy work then how how can it work", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well it uh well i don't know is it working i mean that's that's the question i guess the question also is that we discovered is that they don't throw rascals out everybody seems disappointed but they don't throw the rascal out their own rascal", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh my my solution to to part of this is is to to make it an e[conomic]- economic incentive for people to vote that sounds rather crass i think because then then you're saying well uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know y[ou]- [vocalized-noise] it could be c[onvoluted]- convoluted in many ways where people would actually uh by paying them i mean you know you take a certain amount off their income tax or property tax or whatever", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but that it would be very difficult to administer because i'm sure that any time money and votes are involved [laughter-it] [laughter-just] the whole thing just stinks", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well how about how about the reverse of that when i've heard about England's elections they are allowed to run for what a total of six or eight weeks even for the higher offices in the in the land what if we totally took money out of the camp[aign]- ma[de]- just severely limited the campaigns so money wasn't so much of an issue i feel like if if we did that people would have a lot higher confidence that their vote was counting rather than their contributions would count", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah but the idea is to get the individual to the polls and and and we have to make it as easy as possible for him to get to the polls", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't th[ink]- i don't care how easy it is for them_1 i don't think they're going to because_1 they don't think that their that anybody listens to their vote they think whoever has the b[ucks]- they really think that the packs you know no matter what you're promised during a campaign and these days we're promised hardly anything of substance right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh you mean the special interest groups", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh and uh y[eah]- no matter what a uh candidate promises during the campaign which isn't very much specif[ic]- any that they don't promise anything specific these days but whatever you're promised they just they just reverse themselves depending on who pays them what once they get into office i mean i think that's the", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well read my lips and and and no new taxes and yet Bush did that but i mean but but he's excused from that generally people i've read polls now where they've excused him because there was a a definite necessity to balance the budget", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah well then why did he say that during his campaign then he sh[ould]- it was totally [vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh he he he gave it that he he did he did he promised the best he could and he's the president and he should he should address those problems and if there needs to be a change in a period of time why what was so funny about it is that i guess that it happened so rapidly you know he knew it he actually knew it and being associated with government he should be held up to the light for that and maybe he will", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i think it's uh i mean i think you you still have a view that the American voter is different from other voters and he's motivated because we happen to be the cradle of liberty and all that i think voters are motivated uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what about what about voters in the other countries that you're talking about like in the European countries where they have higher turnouts and well the newer democracies because_1 it's going to be totally different but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i don't know if they have higher turnouts overall i don't think England has i think England has about a seventy percent sixty five percent turn out", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you don't think so uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think that we just discovered in this in in the Indian elections is one of the greatest and massive things in the in the world", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh just it was got vi[olent]- more violent every year they went down to almost fifty percent in this election before they blew up Gandhi but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right oh really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "simply because people were so concerned about", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "their inability that to that their vote doesn't count anyway", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and the corruption of politics in in in that situation but then but you know everything is relative to when uh [vocalized-noise] you know we had higher turnouts because at that time we [vocalized-noise] talk about the turnout relative to the eligible voter right ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean is but but before these enormous before this Voting Rights Act what we had was a a great deal of our population uh mainly the Blacks in the South and the Hispanics were precluded by", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "by uh voting laws uh from reg[istering]- from their eligibility to register now everybody's available", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so if you really computed it they probably when we said we had a seventy percent turnout in nineteen fifty we really only had a fifty percent turnout because all the eligible voters", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i see because_1 right weren't qual[ified]- dis[qualified]- were disqualified", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know the it was skewed by the eligible voters being less than the total population of", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but isn't that isn't that kind of a blanket racist kind of thing to say the Blacks and Hispanics and other minorities just don't vote or is that just the the truth", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no i think the high there's a higher percentage in in certain Black areas of voters i don't know about Hispanics you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i just i- i mean i haven't studied the statistics well enough to i mean i think in this sort of a", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "conversation we can only do our own reactions", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right but you know that just made me think of something that happened down here in Dallas last year they have this huge fight going over redistricting here and at one point they did they took another vote on it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they uh the minorities could not get enough of a vote out to to pass their plan and this is something that had been going on for months it was on the news every night they and they have had lawsuits over it i mean it was it was a major issue and there still wasn't enough minority vote to get to pass the plan that they were backing so that's y[ou]- you know i think that you have really hit on something there to say that uh those", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what do you mean", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well with the minorities and we're saying we have low voter turnout maybe it is is uh now that we have minorities included in the", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know Karen i wonder if we are recording", "role": "user" }, { "content": "why did you not press one", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i did press one but usually by this time they tell me that the time is u[p]- ", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": " okay um well why don't you go ahead and start because you have more experience it sounds like", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] well i've got two kids one of them_1's a year old and one of them_1's going on three", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and in California anyways where i'm located my husband's in the Navy it's really hard to find child care around here because most people that are around here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they're either Mexican or Filipino and they don't speak English so it's like my kids pick up really funny words", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they come home and say something to me and i don't understand what they're [laughter-saying]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it's like i mean day care is really expensive it costs like three hundred dollars", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh goodness", "role": "user" }, { "content": "for day care for two kids for a month and when they come home i don't even understand half the stuff they're [laughter-saying]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh goodness so do they know what they're saying though do they seem to know the words that they're saying", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um sometimes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because_1 they're they're real young", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah because_1 that could be a blessing further down the road but it can also be a problem now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "like one day he came home and said something and i asked him what he was saying i told him to point to it so i could understand what he was saying and he was talking about the cartoon you know Peter Pan", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but he said it you know in i- i don't even re[member]- i don't i don't even know which one it was it was either Spanish or Filipino i'm not even sure which language it was", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh goodness", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but he knew it was Peter Pan it's just he didn't say Peter Pan", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so it's kind of hard to understand what they're saying", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but i don't wanna tell him not to say it because there's nothing wrong with it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's just [laughter] makes it hard to [laughter-understand]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah they'll be because_1 at this age they're real real young and they could pick up any kind of language it it's amazing how easy they can learn", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i've uh i got two children as well my oldest is eight and my youngest is four and i used to teach and when my first one was born i was lucky enough to be able to choose whether i wanted to work or not and even though i had just gotten my Master's degree i chose to stay home just because i worried a lot about child care and really wanted to be able to be that person that raised my children and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i like you're feeling the frustration of what they're picking up on that's exactly the worries that i had is that i worried about what kind of things they might be exposed to or pick up on and i was just really paranoid and i guess just decided to be my own child's caregiver and at times i've regretted it just because_1 i miss working with adults and uh ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know speaking regular language more than the the children's you know kind of language ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and actually having conversations instead of one line sentences [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right right [laughter-and] as a cartoon once said i would like to have dinner with someone who can cut their own meat and that kind of thing um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but now i'm getting up at the at the stage where i will need to go back to work and so i'm looking at this issue and my four year old is just at the point where she'll be starting kindergarten next year which is still only half day so we'll still have to look at that kind of of set up for her so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah my husband and i made a deal when our second son was born because we had i had to work", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "there was after our second son was born there wasn't any choice i had to work", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so we made a deal he's in the Navy and six months out of the year he's gone on a ship", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so for those six months i don't work i stay home with the kids", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but while he's in dock and he's you know on shore duty for six months then i work in the daytime", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and we have child care for them it's only six months out of the year but still it it's just it's kind of weird because the quality of day care is different than what i'm used to because i'm i'm originally from Arizona yeah really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh are you so am i yeah what part oh okay i was in the Phoenix uh Mesa area", "role": "user" }, { "content": " Mayer yeah a little tiny dinky town up by Prescott [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-oh] [laughter-okay]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but um it's really strange because i'm used to just going to my next door neighbor and she babysat me and you know when i first had when we first had our first son she babysat him until we moved and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's really different here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah because_1 now you're depending on other people that you don't know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah {moneywise} and you don't know them_1 and you're worried you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i mean i know a lot of people say well it never happens to you it just happens to other people when children disappear but it's still scary when you have to look for day care", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know you always have that fear", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i got to find somebody r[eally]- you know really that i can depend on", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's right yeah and even if you have someone there right at your own house doing that kind of day care you still always have that little worry i'm sure", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " so that's that is a problem what kind of criteria do you look for when you are shopping around", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i have a notebook and in it i have the top thirty questions [laughter] and that may sound kind of strange but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's i'm just kind of paranoid as a mother it's like [laughter] i want my child safe", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "well who's the team", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i think uh NCAA is going to go to Kansas", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really well i i'm picking Duke because_1 uh they just won it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they just won it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "holy cow i just walked in i i didn't even i guess it's i can't believe it's over al[ready]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's just yeah it's just over just uh about f[ive]- ten minutes ago i guess it was a good game uh they won by about eight i think", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what was the score", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "either five or eight it was a good game but uh Duke was just too much for them_1 Kansas just couldn't couldn't hang with them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i suppose they must be still must be pretty good if they took on UNLV so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah and see i was i was really thinking that they might have a let down because_1 i i i was in a basketball pot and i picked uh Kansas for i guess more or less an upset but i i was thinking that uh Duke might have a let down after playing such a tough game with UNLV but uh i tell you what they uh they came back and put it to them_1 it was a good game but i i i had thought all the way through that UNLV was going to be the team that would just walk away with it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well you and everybody else", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's [laughter-right] that's right i tell you what they uh they they looked like they were just men among boys but they they they fell i tell you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well a lot of pressure on them_1 though i think uh i don't think they had the same type of enthusia[sm]- -[enthusi]asm or attitude probably too conservative or too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah they they just need to go for it instead of uh worrying about the other team because_1 i think if they would play their game i don't know if there's anybody that could that could keep up with them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh yeah yeah well what about professionally", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh i i was since the", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm out in uh Ph[oenix]- uh Phoenix there so the Suns are starting to look pretty descent but there [vocalized-noise] i think yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's right yeah here in Dallas i'll tell you what the the Mavericks are having just all kinds of problems", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i tell you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i used to live out there and uh seems like they've well Tarpley just got pulled over [laughter-again]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really yeah so he he's uh he's probably going to be going to jail and and the problem with him is he's on a guaranteed salary like for three years so whether he plays or not they've got to pay him ten million dollars so if they", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh they can't hardly trade him because_1 nobody wants to pay that much for him and if they just keep him that hurts their salary cap so that guy's got Dallas in a big old bind but uh they they i think they've just got to forget about him and uh try to build a team without him maybe go for some good they ought to get some good draft picks this year", "role": "user" }, { "content": "who who else do they got on that team now i [vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they've uh they've got Derek Harper that's a real good point guard him and Rolando Blackman", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh really they're about it they've got a guy named Herb Williams that that i guess sort of was supposed to take the place of uh Tarpley but he uh he just doesn't have the offensive skills", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and then they've got James Donaldson who's been there forever playing center and uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah how's he doing this year", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "just all right but he's getting to where uh i don't know if it's his age or what but he just can't play the whole game they've got to get somebody young that can uh run the court that's still big", "role": "user" }, { "content": "how about the guy from North Carolina", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh uh not McCrae but uh let's see are you uh Perkins", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Perkins Per[kins]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they traded Perkins Sam Perkins they traded him he was from North Carolina and uh they traded him to the Lakers last year and that he was a good player and then they they've got a", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right that's right okay_1 yeah he was a finesse player he was good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah and then they they uh last year went out and got oh Fat Leever and uh Alex English and and Rodney McCrae", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Dantely didn't they get Dantely", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah they didn't and i'm not for sure what the deal is on him i think he's been hurt but he hadn't played he hadn't played in probably two months and i've i've gone to about three or four of their games and i don't even think he was on the sidelines so i i think he hurt his knee or something but he he definitely didn't turn out to be anything like he was supposed to so uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think that was involved with the Pe[rkins]- Perkins trade to tell you the truth", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it uh you know i i bet it was", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh oh no no no no no no it was what is his name McGuire that was McGuire [vocalized-noise] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's right that's right from uh uh Detroit that's right that's who that was yeah because_1 i don't think they got anything from Perkins i think he was a free agent or uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah free agent his contract ended and they didn't sign him and uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't understand that i thought that he was always a good player", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know he was but he just went for the the big bucks i think Dallas was going to pay him like sixteen million over five years and he got something like eighteen or nineteen million from Las Angeles so he just went where the bucks were and shoot you can't blame him man that's that's a phenomenal amount of money but uh yeah the Mavericks are sucking it up i tell you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "are they over five hundred", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh no i don't think so they they were right before the uh uh oh what do you call i[t]- all-star break but ever since the all-star break uh shoot they've they've played terrible", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh so now it'd be really to their benefit to to really play uh some bad ball and and hopefully get a lucky uh lottery pick because_1 uh there's no way they can e[ven]- i think mathematically they're out of the play-off scene now ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so you know they they need to just play for a play-off pick ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i think i think the Suns are", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "or a you know the Suns are are pretty good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well they had i don't think it was last year the year before they were doing really good and i think they had an off year last year", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they're uh yeah and they d[id]- they made some trades uh oh they had one white guy i can't think of his name that was real good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "did you say white or black", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "white uh Chambers yeah and uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Chambers yeah he's the big guy yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know if if they could get somebody to help compliment him you know i think they'd be uh awesome because_1 that guy can play that Chambers is is something else but uh i don't know it'll it'll be interesting", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i haven't been i don't follow basketball real close but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i i really don't follow the pros that close either they they just play so many games that uh you know it's just hard to keep up with them but col[lege]- i really enjoy college basketball", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah the big ten didn't fair too well in the tournament", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the most no they sure didn't sure didn't", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm i'm from the [vocalized-noise] midwest so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay so you keep up with the", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah i kind of wa[tch]- you know see what's happening", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh yeah more of a football powerhouse i guess", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh what's that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "more of a football powerhouse up there i guess", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well no basketball is you know Michigan won it last year", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "is basketball pretty big do what", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah Indiana and Michigan uh and uh Iowa and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Ohio State Ohio State was ranked like number two most of the year [vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "tha[t's]- that's true that is right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Michigan won the NCAA last year and and you know there's always about six teams that go to the tournament uh from the big ten it's it's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah so that's a tough conference", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they are they're really good in all the sports they", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] actually in the last few years um football you know looks like has gone down a little bit so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah because_1 Ohio State used to be just a perennial powerhouse", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh and Michigan too but uh well i tell you what i appreciate uh the conversation and uh we'll have to we'll have to see how Phoenix ends up", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah we'll see", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] you too bye-bye", "role": "user" }, { "content": "{alrighty} well uh have a good one okay bye-bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "think about this", "role": "user" }, { "content": " uh do you have children in school um i have two that are uh now just about_1 ready to graduate from college but i also have two that are just entering school um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i do oh so you see a big difference then in before and now do you or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh well uh i think they're just pushing them mu[ch]- entirely to fast", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a lot of testing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um well it seems to me that kindergarten is now the equivalent of first grade my son leaves the house at seven thirty and doesn't get home until three o'clock", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i think that's such a long day for a kindergartner", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i do too i oh i think that's awful", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh i have a preschooler um i was told by her preschool teacher that she thought maybe she was to immature for kindergarten and i thought well how mature do you have to be [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know really what's the new criteria huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] and uh there is a do you have the standardized testing now", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " we have all kinds of testing and it's over and over it's ITBS or and uh just everything everything and they test test test i live in Plano actually and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't know if you've heard of Plano but it's a very transient community a lot of people from everywhere it's just north of Dallas", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it's grown in leaps and bounds i we must have maybe a hundred and fifty thousand people now and most of them from other places", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh JC Penney's come down from New York and of course TI and Xerox from Rochester and we just have lots of people from everywhere lots of industry coming in and it's a very wealthy community", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh not that i am but other people seem to be and i would love to know why but i mean they do they have i i would i really would i mean they just have beautiful beautiful homes and they have everything", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter-yeah] you'd like to know what they're doing right [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the kids only wear name brand things to school and it's one of these things well it does you know it really does because_1 i'm a single mom and i have a thirteen year old now and uh you know it does i mean we do it to a point but um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh me well that makes it hard for you doesn't it oh me yeah it's hard to explain to them why you can't", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "not to where she feels different but some of them are very rich and so um we just kind of have everything here and we have a very goal oriented population because their parents are", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and so i don't know how much of it is us and how much of it is Texas but the kids are expected to excel in everything", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh dear", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it's almost impossible because you have so many children and just so many activities that everybody can't be first and they're expected to be you know their parents expect it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the teachers expect it Texas wants very badly to be considered tops in the school system and if you read national surveys they're far from it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and so there's just a whole lot of testing and a whole lot of pushing to do well on these tests and", "role": "user" }, { "content": " how about_1 the kids how are they coping with it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well not very well they bring home notes that say they have to get a good night's sleep and eat right in the morning before tests i mean they make a big deal to me the paper should just be put on the desk that day and say just do this", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hum right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know i just feel they do better that way and yeah and and i have older children too that now are out of high school and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah rather than anticipating", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh they've always done this you know i mean it's always been the same but it is it's getting worse and worse there's more pressure for everything and i just think it's really awful and i i'm with you on that you don't hear too many people say this but i think it's a very long day", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh it is", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and my feeling is that you you know you're only a kid once and you don't wanna spend your whole life in school ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right my son said that came home and he said he said mom all we do is work we hardly ever play and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum and i don't think that's right i think we should do what Europe does and include cultural activities in our school system", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh likewise", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't think i should have to pay for dancing lessons gymnastics piano i would like to see those things included in our school system because i think we should have well rounded kids", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right wouldn't that be great um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "not just sm[art]- book smart kids", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and so i just find this a real problem i think if they're gonna be there all day they should find time one of my daughters once was out of school with Mono in her junior year i think it was and she had a home teacher for like four hours a week and when she went back in six weeks she was ahead", "role": "user" }, { "content": "is that right oh my gosh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so what does that tell you the it tells you there's a whole lot of wasted time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh my gosh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and they could be using this time better", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well for example in my son's kindergarten they're really finished at lunch time after lunch they have some uh i'm trying to think if they have recess after lunch and then they have naps or rest period", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh i think either send them_1 home or do something", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's a very long day for kindergarten but i think that working parents have kind of demanded this ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "a little more interesting i agree i wouldn't be surprised", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know because they don't they don't wanna send them to day care", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i doubt if they would say that it was too long [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's why they want them there because then somebody takes care of them all day so the", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um do you have the before school care at your school and the after school care", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we have them at s[ome]- one school like", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": " Dave what kind of pets do you have", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh we have one rotten cat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "one rotten cat", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah it's my son's cat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i heard a laugh in the background", "role": "user" }, { "content": " yeah that's the boys they they know i don't like it [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] oh you don't like cats", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i like cats this cat is a uh more like a dog", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah he's uh a a one owner he likes one boy in the family and that's about it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that said what does how does he treat the other people", "role": "user" }, { "content": "just uh stays away or runs", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "wow", "role": "user" }, { "content": "usually but he follows he'll follow my oldest son around you know when he's in the house he'll come up and he'll jump on his lap but if anybody reaches over to pet him or whatever he'll just kind of look at them_1 like what are you doing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] did he raise him or something", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and he he's ye[ah]- we bought the cat for him and so he's he's been the one that you know spent the most time with him", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but i i've never owned a cat like that i've had cats growing up all the time and you know they're usually either that way with everybody or friendly to everybody", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh huh that's interesting", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so it's a weird cat [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh we have a a mutt well we we named it Hooper because that's where we got it from [laughter] uh some lady", "role": "user" }, { "content": "a mutt uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "she uh a lot of people uh uh drop off abandoned abandoned pets at her house", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and she used to work for a veterin[arian]- veterinarian so she would spay uh neuter them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "give them_1 all their shots and we saw an ad saying it was free so we went down there and picked it up and it's been an excellent dog but this is my first dog i've i've had and we got it because well my wife stays here at home alone while i go to work so that's mostly why we got it to keep her company while i'm away at work", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh so that is that kind of your child right now", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um yeah right now it it is it's kind of good training i mean we've been trying for kids but right now we haven't had any but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you feel like [laughter] oh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's pretty good training i think i mean it it keeps us on our toes [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "have have you had dogs before", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh my brother has um we didn't do a lot with them_1 um i never felt it like it was mine or anything you couldn't do anything", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i mean it's a bit more responsibility when it's yours and not your brother's [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah well i just um [vocalized-noise] we've you know when i was growing up i had we always had a dog", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and we had mostly well not not mutts but mixes you know like one or one or two mix", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and those dogs always seem to be the best dogs", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's what we found ours is uh like a Cockapoo i think it's half Cocker Spaniel and half Poodle but it's a really good dog", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't know they seem to be i mean listen better or something is your cat a purebred", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum no no it's just uh an accident [laughter] from a frie[nd]- from uh my son's friend down the street their their cat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "was an outside cat and just end up with some kittens and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "would you ever want a dog in the family", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um we i would we um we had a dog that was a um mix between a an Alaskan Malamute and a Labrador", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and [vocalized-noise] i should say a pup and he was just too big for our kids when we got him and we", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "when we moved into our house that was the first thing we wanted to get was uh you know was a pet and and it was a dog that we gotten he was jus[t]- he was just too big um the kids couldn't handle him and i was still going to school", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and my wife was working and i was working and so we just didn't have time to really train him so he was kind of just the[re]- you know he's too big for the kids to handle so he was just tied up to a post", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so we gave him to uh i don't know if you've there's a place out here on it's called Shorties Lane out here in Harrisville and they have um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i guess it's kind of an animal shelter but he just takes a few of the animals in and some he destroys and some he keeps", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so we took him up there and he ended up keeping him um because_1 he's had him for six or seven years we we've saw him just a oh i guess about a year ago and uh i thought boy that sure looks like that pup we gave away and so we asked him about it one day and he said yeah he's been the best dog i've ever had in my life", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum wow", "role": "user" }, { "content": "just goes everywhere with him i he would've been a great great dog", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they just need a lot of ti[me]-", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "okay well uh i guess uh you're pretty aware that it's uh been uh a little warm for this time of year", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it uh the humidity's a little higher ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it is this is muggy today like it wants to rain but it don't know what it wants to you know for this time of year", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh you know about a month from now this wouldn't be so bad but uh but boy for the end of March this is uh this is funny ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no really bad yeah funny weather but bad because_1 that means it either means one or two things it's going to be a bad summer [laughter] or a not too good summer and a worse winter next year", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-oh] jeez [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well that's a good way to look at it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i always do that i got to do something like that with the weather", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well if if you do that then you'll only be pleasantly surprised probably if it's anything but that ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's uh but uh i- i guess uh the win[ter]- the winter wasn't that bad down here really ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no see that's it was a mild winter that's why i keep saying [laughter-oh] no", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] yeah look[ing]- looking forward to a really bad summer and hot summer", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] [vocalized-noise] yeah i think it's going to be really hot this year", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well hopefully you know if it's humid now maybe it'll i remember last year it rained an awful lot or uh you know for the last couple of years it's rained an awful lot and maybe that'll help to defeat some of the heat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and if uh if it rains a lot but uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "if it rains if it rains any more and gets really hot then we have this problem with mosquitoes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah you're right yeah yeah i used to live in uh up north up in the uh upper midwest and uh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "see", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and we had had m[osquito]- mosquito problems that's for sure", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well see i would prefer the cold i'm from southern California", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but see the heat out here [laughter] [laughter-ain't] nothing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well you know it's it's that easy to say but boy when it's uh when it's forty below and you're shoveling snow and it's forty below it's uh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no i don't want to get that cold now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it uh [laughter] that's just the bad thing you either you either have to take the take this kind of weather or uh or take the really really cold weather", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] i don't think no i don't want to go no where up north no where", "role": "user" }, { "content": "does it go in any any where north of the Red River", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh-uh i don't even want to go [laughter-anywhere] yeah that's [laughter-about] [laughter-it]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's uh i that's what i've heard people say is they'll never go north of the Red River again", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] that's right it's too cold up there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and then last year that's when they really had that cold spell", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know it was like um record breaking below temperatures and stuff in Alaska where your ga[s]- your car was freezing while it was running you know the g[as]- oil or the gas would turn to slush huh-uh see i can't handle that [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i- i know what you mean because_1 uh because you got to have like little oil heaters where they plug in the uh plug in uh your car", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh that's not g[ood]- that's not good at all and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no something happens then what", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i guess i guess the only thing to do is to hope that this is the worse that it gets this year ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it's not that bad right now i just hope it don't get any worse", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah or if it if it does get worse it doesn't stay for very long", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's about it i'm just waiting because see it's tornado season", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh that's right that's right because_1", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes it is it's tornado season", "role": "user" }, { "content": "already already hit Oklahoma and probably right down here soon so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum you see this is this is tornado weather boy people don't know it but when it gets hot like this", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and you know like they're predicting the weather to be cold well when it gets cold real fast", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum get a northerner through here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "there's your tornados that's right and so they're predicting this weekend probably drop something like thirty degrees i say huh-uh see that ain't right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right no no", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no it's uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but that's that's tornado season", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and i gue[ss]- i guess that's shows what they say about Dallas if you don't like the weather just just wait a day yeah it'll change on you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "wait a while it'll change that's right that's about_1 like it is too because yesterday was really nice", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and the wind was blowing but today is muggy but the wind is still blowing but you know i don't know the wea[ther]-", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well anyway i guess that's about all i got to say about the uh the weather", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's about it that's about all you can [laughter-say] [laughter-about] the [laughter-weather]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-okay] talk about it but can't do anything about it uh okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] that's right all righty thank you bye-bye", "role": "user" }, { "content": "all right bye-bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "an interesting uh point about sentencing by the judge alone doing away with a jury i don't know if i'd be willing to accept the um abuses that would come along with that and that the it'd be relatively easy to get some bad decisions or to even get to the judge from a standpoint of bribery but ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "or even if he just through years of being on the bench just becomes uh out of touch with uh the population and he only sees the bad side of life so much that he just ends up making bad decisions however the complexity of some of these uh cases it's just they spend more time educating the jury up to the point where they can make a decision", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "then it would take if the judge just made the decision especially when it is purely um noncriminal uh litigation type uh whatever you want to call it the term civil uh suits as it were or even some corporate uh law when there's not any individual involved and some of those are solved without a a jury but uh some some do choose to go before it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um what do you think about the aspect of unanimous jury when they do have a jury must all six or twelve uh agree before the the topic be final or or the verdict be final", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that that is uh a tough situation i mean because you know i mean some sometimes i feel like maybe some of them are just kind of pressured or not really into you know and and you kn[ow]- uh people go home and the jury duty is always like you know kind of whining about it [laughter-all] seems like if people were were really you know into the subject and uh i don't know i mean i guess if there if it was more people it would be better if it was just like you know the majority but i guess the smaller number of that was like six or twelve which there usually are so um and i guess unanimous uh yeah i kind of agree with that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay if it the only thing that i was thinking about as far as having if you had one holdout out of say twelve", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "then is it reasonable or is it or could you assume that there must be some reason for that person to be holding out and obviously the other eleven or five cannot convince this person", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that uh they should vote it one way or the other so maybe it is worth having that extra little or going to the the very farthest uh safeguard that can be done and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "trying not to get a wrong decision", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i can see that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the uh system as it stands now i think if if the juries were done away with the judge could render a decision much quicker uh and you'd you'd feed more people through the courts as it were don't know where we'd put them once we got them through your courts but uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think the rate of processing is just about uh reached the rate of housing anyway so keep the keep the norm[al]- as it is can't upset the system very much", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah i heard about um is is there true that there's a if a lawyer takes a a case to court and it's what do they call it um frivolous is that is there still a frivolous law that they can", "role": "user" }, { "content": "probably yeah i would imagine the judge could throw it out", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah but do they get um fined the lawyer ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i would imagine that's left up to the judge i i would assume he could consider it a contempt of court and and uh but anything he wanted whatever his limits are on contempt of court", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah i never i didn't realize until recently that there was actually a fine they could pretty interesting though", "role": "user" }, { "content": "certainly makes sense because some of this stuff is you know y[ou]- you're just doing this to do this you know [laughter-it's]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "just doesn't make sense", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so that's pretty bad a friend of mine is a is a judge here in the -[w]ell actually you know it McKinney because we're in Collin County", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and he is uh just recently changed from hearing all the the DWI type stuff to uh doing what they call more of a family court where he gets to go listen to all the divorces so it wasn't much of a step up as it were", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really oh really [laughter] [laughter] oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um it's really tough he says in a lot of cases where he has to make the decision so i guess in a lot of those cases it's it's all up to him as oppose to a jury", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh gosh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and there's just no good choice as to where to put the kids sometimes or", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and of course there couples get kind of spiteful at times and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that would be really tough [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and you hear it all through the worst side of people throughout the whole time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah you really do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well let me think here um as far as the judge making the decision", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i mean because seems like i don't know i mean there's so many different different types of cases that come in i mean it seems like just general people i mean who are live in the community and do different things you know you have different opinions kind of just one judge who sits there and listens to cases all the time would would get it start thinking a certain way and go go nuts [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah that's true but then look at the group that tends to accept jury duty", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you you either have the person who who is uh the type of individual who can work for a large corporation that can afford to pay them you know let them go", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and those are shall we say blue collar that that your work the assembly line type or technician some engineering uh you may not have the the self-employed businessman willing to go because he though he may be", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "current on all you know several social issues and have opinions on things like that he just doesn't want to take his time to go to the jury duty so he probably doesn't vote either so he doesn't get called in some counties", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah true ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so it i don't know whether it would be wiser to have an educated judge even though he may get uh out of touch after a while or whether it would be uh worth it to stick to the class of people that end up there", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that is hard to say", "role": "user" }, { "content": "though i have had a judge fact this very judge friend of mine say that he uh does not like to have people on the jury that are from uh the electronics industry", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i said well me being from the electronics industry i'll bite why [laughter] why don't you like it and he said well ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he said the majority of them uh tend to dive into their little world of of electronics and be very technically minded and be very absorbed with what their field is and they usually don't um read outside their field they don't read social type uh papers they don't they're not up to date on various uh current affairs as it were and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i hadn't ever thought of that really", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i said well that that's quite possible i said i've discussed some topics with people even over this situation and and discovered some views that i hadn't thought of in a while i just wondered if i got out of my little realm", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh if i wouldn't run into people with some more diverse views ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh my realm is pretty well technical and those who you know friends i have are usually we discuss technical items and we don't uh try to follow the world's problems", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i guess it's too frustrating [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it does", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "gosh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i think we've managed to kill a little time on the topic and we'll go ahead and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we'll go ahead and call you another day maybe", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "all right well groovy it's been cool talking to you see you around bye", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "well what do you think", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well um gosh it set up on a scale of one to ten", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah one being total con[trol]- total uh restriction and ten being none well i'm probably dead in the middle", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh you know i i think i would too i think i'd straddle the fence", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because my husband's a truck driver -[o]kay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and he travels a lot of states and i'm always thinking of New York and all of them now they get New York and California's got New York and Washington should i say", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "got the strictest gun control law there is supposed to be", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i[t]- it look what it done it's it's nothing the people more people get killed in New York than than anywhere from guns", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so the only people the only thing that i think gun control does to me is it keeps the normal people or should i say law-abiding citizens from having guns because_1 the criminals going to get their guns", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's not going to do any good to now if they ban like the automatic guns and all that from", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "period then you know then if they catch them_1 with one then fine but just gun control ain't going to stop them_1 from having a gun", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "then then that you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh well see i agree with you uh it seems like the the crime rate has gone up even more um here this year they're talking about uh there're more murders in Dallas um almost uh since last year and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well the guy that broke in the store stole a bunch of guns and because the owner didn't have a a burglar alarm or something and that that to me that was stupid they should at least make him have", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "an alarm or make it a requirement on them on them gun stores", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you would think [laughter] but they", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah oh yeah so yeah but i i just w[ouldn't]- i wouldn't want to ban it completely um but uh [vocalized-noise] somehow there needs to be [vocalized-noise] the one thing that i did like was that where you had to wait seven days um you know um ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well no um-hum well i don't mind waiting that's that that i could care less", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah you know w[aiting]- waiting seven days so that they can make sure that check it out and everything's okay and to me that was uh that was perfectly acceptable", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know but um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know because if you are a [laughter-law-abiding] citizen you're not going to want to you know it's not going to matter to you if you have to wait a little while", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hum-um and see the the the thing about it to me that they was talking about having gun control so people wouldn't kill anybody but i am a true believer that if somebody wants to kill somebody okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't care if they can't get a gun they'll find something else", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah oh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it doesn't matter that they the only thing is is the gun is the quickest way they they had or they had accessible to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but if they don't have a gun they'll find something else especially if they want or they'll wait on their seven days because they're not crazy", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah uh-huh oh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yet [laughter-i] [laughter-mean] [laughter-you] [laughter-know] they haven't proved to nobody that they're crazy or they're in no federal no no no uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh what do you call it record or nothing so they'll get a gun then they can go kill somebody and then that'd be it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] oh i agree with you yeah um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-and] then they still going to get it so i don't think the gun control is going to help as far as you know just taking everybody's gun away because Japan well is it Japan one of those those foreign countries has gun control but all the mob people have guns", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh yeah yeah no i i don't think that they should ban it i rea[lly]- i really don't um you know i i don't have a gun in the house myself because i have uh children and uh you know feel really uncomfortable about that but if i was by myself i'd definitely have a gun", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i have a gun you know my well my son's fifteen but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "my husband and me he knows tha[t]- he don't even touch it and it's not a hand gun see", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's a shotgun so it just sits there and it's in m[y]- it's in my bedroom and he's not allowed in there anyway so [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh okay uh-huh yeah so that's that's a great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but it's not nothing that he can like [vocalized-noise] and that's another thing with these kids with these guns i blame more the parents", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because i grew up with guns i guess you know in the house my father had a gun cabinet", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but we wasn't allowed to touch it and Lord help us if we did [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah yeah but see these people i know they keep them_1 up underneath their pillows a[nd]- you know sitting right on top of their dresser drawers i mean it's no wonder you know the kids get in there and then they blow uh other people away so you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh no yeah little kids in the house and i don't like that i don't like it when they have kids little small kids", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because_1 uh when i have small kids over i close my door", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah oh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and my house is i live i live in an apartment so you know if the door opens i can see like what are you going into my room for [laughter] it's not like a big house to where's i can't see if they go in my room", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum oh yeah yeah yeah uh-huh um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'll know if they go in the room because there ain't but two bedrooms so it's like right there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah yeah so that um yeah but that that's about the biggest reason why i just never never and and i won't even let my my son play with play guns either you know not even get that idea about about them", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i think the only gun my son has is part of the [Intendo/Nintendo] [laughter] you know with the TV {thingy} [laughter-that's] about it because_1", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah] [laughter-there] you go there you [laughter-go] [laughter-that's] [laughter-right] there you go yeah me too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the the you know i don't i don't like that i don't that's that's i don't know i just hum-um but i don't think the gun control as far as i guess i would probably vote right in the middle if if if there is a way to vote", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "all righty", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay do you have a budget that you go on", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i sure do um i have it's pretty much a ledger sheet and i just write down [vocalized-noise] all my bills how much i'm going to have to pay and i do it per paycheck for me which is every other week uh i mean i include everything from groceries to insurance to car payments to credit card payments you know everything", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it tends to work out pretty well that way i can anticipate you know a little better i usually try to guesstimate and then when the bill actually comes in i go ahead and fill in the actual amount", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that way i know how much pocket change i'm going to have left [laughter-at] [laughter-the] [laughter-end] of the month or at the end of the paycheck anyway", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so that works okay for me", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh well my bills i usually know approximately how much they're going to be each month they [vocalized-noise] are more or less just about the same you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right uh-huh same here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh very seldom are they any different and then uh like for groceries and everything we try to put like two hundred and fifty dollars in a little can [laughter-in] the kitchen", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and then that's what we use to buy the groceries with", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and then we put our receipts in there you know and usually that's enough", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and um but i don't have any you know small children to have anything extra come up you know like uh running to the doctor or something like that with them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right luckily i don't either i mean you know maybe my cat would get sick but i mean usually that's not so much that it would throw me off", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] yeah yeah right in fact i did have to take my dog to the vet the other day", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-but] [laughter-you] so you know what i'm saying yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah that it's it's worse than having a kid huh ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i sometimes it can be sometimes it can be i guess the worst thing i've ever had come out is like car maintenance kinds of things", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but i do try to build in a little extra money each month to to be able to do that type of thing so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah um i'm not working right now i worked for P I E and then uh they went bankrupt so i just went ahead and took my early pension", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum oh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i only get that once a month", "role": "user" }, { "content": "ooh that's tough", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "my roommate only gets paid once a month", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and that last week's pretty lean generally [laughter-speaking] so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah so you know i really have to try to budget that i don't go over that amount you know each month", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right i for for years got paid once a month and and in ways i liked it because i could go ahead and pay all my bills at once", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "there's always one or two stragglers that usually they were for me it worked out that they were the smaller ones", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but i would pay all of them at one sitting and i would know okay you can go spend this much on groceries now and you get this much a week and that is it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and that worked okay for me", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't know right now i i'm in the mode of trying to dig out of debt i think as everybody is and so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and oh yeah right now it's terrible isn't it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's yeah it's really bad but um it's going pretty well and i've got a real good plan mapped out here so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah uh-huh i also like belong to a Christmas club be[cause]- you know i used to belong to a Christmas club last year i didn't", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "then so then naturally Christmas comes along and that's puts you behind too you know so this year now i have them_1 taking out fifty dollars a month out of my checking account for my Christmas club", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh that's yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i figure you know that's gonna help some", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that'll cover your gifts come Christmas time that'll yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah right you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that'd be good because yeah most people are spending three or four months di[gging]- you know at least digging out after Christmas so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah right right and i'm tak[ing]-", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i i was pretty fortunate this Christmas i didn't get in debt so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that's good i'm taking like um sewing lessons to try to learn how to sew better than what i can", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i won't have to go out and buy the readymade clothes anymore", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh uh-huh it's so rare you hear anybody doing that any longer", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know i even bought myself a Surger you know and i just love it i haven't learned everything to do on it yet but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i figure that will help me save", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "my um roommate does sew some and and um i she hasn't sewed anything in a long time but i i'm sure that she could pick it up again my mother always sewed she tried to teach me when i was young but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "not interested [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well see some people are and some people aren't because_1 i have some sisters i have three sisters and none of those are really interested in sewing ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah but that's a real good way to save money though by doing that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah and then i can also you know do some crafts and sell those at garage sales", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so which i've been doing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well that's a good way to to make a little extra money", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well this is another way that i'm making a little extra money so that was you know nice that i tripped over this opportunity and you're actually my first call", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i had not um done", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well have you called", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i i guess today's today's my first day that i could even do it ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] oh it is", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah you beat me to the punch here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh well that's n[ice]- that's nice you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] i was i was about to call to get to see if i could get on with somebody so so that was great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah well i guess that's about all i can talk to about budgets when i was working i uh bought a bond a month out of my you know they automatically took it out of my out of my uh payroll", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] yeah yeah i take have some money taken out [vocalized-noise] and put in a 401K ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "so PC's personal compu[ters]- do you have a personal computer", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no i don't not at home i work with them quite a bit though", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum hm i i work with them at Kelly Services doing uh data entry", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum what do y[ou]- what do you think about them_1", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the well i think they're useful i think they're in some in some instances they're they're over used well that's not the right way to say it um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you mean instead of people or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i think that uh some some work places where i've been they they set up like everybody has their own PC", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "which a lot of times everybody doesn't need a PC and it really without them knowing how to use it properly it slows them down more than it helps them accomplish something", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they spend more time messing with the PC than they would actually accomplishing the task that they're trying to do if they didn't have a PC at all", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum and you really have to be able to type pretty fast before you know before it it really saves time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh that's true", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and you have to you know be familiar with the like there're so many different software packages i[t]- you have to be familiar with the one that you're going to be using most", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "a lot of times uh people know about half of the capabilities of a package that they should know to actually be able to use it properly and so they waste more time with their trying to uh to figure out how to do you know other things than they would if they if they actually understood what they were trying to do you know like uh they want to to format a report a certain way", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and if they really understood the capabilities of the package they could they could do that in uh about you know half the time that they spend trying to figure out how to do it without spending the time to learn the package properly", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to set up the boundaries correctly and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right exactly", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "how many lines you're going to use in it an[d]-", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh a lot of times they they they do it manually on the computer which just really is a waste of time and then if they ever have to change anything in that in that in the document they have to go back and redo it all manually whereas if they had learned the package properly to start with and had set it up correctly the package would do that for them", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "whenever they wanted to make a change so i i've seen that as a problem", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "can't can't you put can't you put it on a disk and then just edit it i[f]- if you need to when you go back", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right but in some in some cases the with the formatting what i'm talking about is that they would set up they set up a certain um document and it may be eight pages long", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they set it up manually so that they have all their spacings and formattings and tabs set manually", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum and a[nd]- and um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and um then when they have to make a change say they want to insert a paragraph they've got to go through the document and reset all the page breaks manually", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "rewrite the whole thing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and rewrite the whole thing instead of having the if if they had set up the formatting on the system itself it would do that for them and save them a lot of time but a lot of people don't spend the time to learn the package", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "how does the word wrap work on that do you end up with very different length lines", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh no no you can left and right justify the whole thing it comes out just perfectly spaced like a block", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it'll it'll automatically it's like typesetting it'll automatically do that for you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it divides the words by itself", "role": "user" }, { "content": "usually it doesn't divide words they usually have it i[t]- have it space the words in a line rather than divide a word", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that you see like in a newspaper ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they typeset they don't usually break words in a newspaper if the if one line is going to be a lot shorter than another line they just they just add spaces to that line to make it look long as the rest of the lines", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right um-hum they space it out in in the line itself oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right and most computers do that most pa[ckages]- most software packages will do that for you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they um um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i've known people that have used a package for for five years you know and i would say well have y[ou]- you know you know more about this package than i do how do you left justify and they would say i don't know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it would take me maybe two or three minutes looking in the manual to figure out what command it was to caused this to happen and they would say how did you do that and i'm like well it's really easy and they were like well i never knew that and that obviously they'd never considered looking it up you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum do you think it's a lack of training um or i[t's]- just that they don't use the materials that are available to them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "sometimes it's sometimes well it's it's a number of different things sometimes they don't uh they don't think that they can get any information out of the manual some manuals aren't really designed very well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but some of them are and more and more of them are coming out written in a way that it that just a a basic general user can understand them so i think um people think it's going to take them a lot longer to learn it properly than it really would and so they're really wasting time rather than saving themselves time because they think well it's quicker just to do it myself when it's really not", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right um-hum it's better to learn it directly from the manual", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i think so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "especially when you have to trouble shoot some things", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum exactly", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "-[bec]ause a lot of the times the computer the program still has uh bugs in it and you have to work around it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hm have you worked mostly on IBM um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh the the with PC's they're either IBM or IBM compatible mostly", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah that's uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that is you know the industry standard", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's all i've seen in offices is IBM um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh there's a lot of of really good IBM compatibles too they don't have to necessarily be the IBM brand but they have to adhere to that industry standard", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right well do you think it's been five minutes yet or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh probably", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay we[ll]- well it was nice talking to you thank you bye-bye", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] okay bye-bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "okay uh what do you think about the the idea of having volunteer service for everyone", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i think that uh really it wouldn't hurt most of the young people of the country to have to go and do voluntary service", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh and you know i mean", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well", "role": "user" }, { "content": "there have been so many people that have done it and i've talked with several and i think they've gotten a lot out of it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well are you doing any kind of volunteer work now", "role": "user" }, { "content": " not right now but i have done uh Red [Clo[ss]-/Cross] Cross work and uh i've taught CPR training", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " what about when when would people do it when they finished high school", "role": "user" }, { "content": "a[nd]- i think probably as soon as they finished high school it would be ideal because a lot of times if they go straight into college i think they're going in too quick", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think particular boys the the maturity in fact i wasn't very mature when i left high school and i", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think there's a there's a real challenge there there's also this this issue of of uh you know whether you're really [relly/ready] and i think it gives a different perspective", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right uh you know i- i think if you've been out of school a year year and a half before you start to college you appreciate college more than someone that just goes right straight into college", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the only complication is is is how do you fund something like this", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well a lot of parents fund their children there are uh some groups that have their children you know go away for a year even the religious organizations", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i think the Mormon church has sends out missionaries that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right and the parents fund them for the whole year year and a half that they're gone", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's uh it's interesting it gets them_1 away from home and and gets them_1 do something useful although the kids today though it it seems that almost that their concern for money i we were doing some investigating colleges and said the kids are much more interested today in in trying to find a job to study something that'll give them a job as opposed to it'd be curious be curious if there wa[s]- if there was mandatory do you consider the option of eith[er]- the mandatory military service or volunteer do you think that would be reasonable ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think it would i[n]- in Israel the even the women are are required to to be in the military for a certain period of time uh i was in the military and i personally feel if th[ey]- if they have dra[ft]- the draft that they should draft women as quickly as they do the men", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " well but the the issue of of of would y[ou]- what what would what would you find it what would you have them_1 do you know there're a lot of people around with there's a lot of unemployment right now what would you have these people do if they were brought in", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what into the service or", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well yeah or say say the volunteer say that say that it was mandatory", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i- i- i think that they ought to have something for the the unemployed in a voluntary field like the i do[n't]- i don't know if you know remember about the WPA", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes my father was in the CCC camp", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he [laughter-was] [laughter-in] [laughter-that] i mean you know uh it's not the best thing in the world but uh it gave them something to do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " well it seems that there's some things like the um the programs at least just go around and and and clean up streets and and and pick up trash and even aluminum cans and some of these kinds of things", "role": "user" }, { "content": "r[ight]- or go into the the more depressed areas and help repair the houses", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " yeah in fact we we helped with um oh Habitat for Humanities and that was a that was a good experience but you take the kids out and and there are a lot of the buildings in downtown areas that that either need demolishing or need fixing up so it would be a good idea um we've been doing this three or four minutes i think that uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "do you have any other further comments", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no not really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well it was good talking to you Betty have a good night", "role": "user" }, { "content": " okay i'll talk to you later bye ", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": " [laughter] okay you ready to discuss the the topic ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what's the topic", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay the topic is social changes and discuss social changes [vocalized-noise] in America and how they relate or how they differ today than they were ten fifteen or thirty years ago", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "are you ready for that okay pardon me", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you bet i'll let you lead out i'll let you lead out [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-okay] well uh there's uh it's kind of an in[teresting]- interesting topic and one that i think is quite fascinating because uh couple of years ago i guess uh not very not m[any]- not very long ago seemed like the whole world not just the United States but the whole world was kind of in a standstill where everyone was basically in a you know a very comfortable position so to say even though the the cold war was was in full swing you know you had the the Russians against the Americans the Communists against the Free World and in the last couple of years things have [tranged/changed] dramatically not only on the political front but also on the economic front where uh couple of years ago we had uh America uh was a one of the leading powers and one of the strongest nations in the world as far as economics were concerned and now we're having a very tough time in a recessionary period we're also have a very humongous trade deficit and uh and that's kind of frightening also you know a couple of years ago ten fif[teen]- fifteen ten fifteen years ago an individual going into a career could expect to have that career basically throughout their whole life and thirty years ago that was that was basically it whereas now we're expected to have a career change every you know every couple years and possibly fi[ve]- four to five career changes throughout our lifetime and so i think uh you know things there's been an awful lot of social change lately and a lo[t]- and uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": " i think one of the things that's interesting to me is if you look particularly at the political changes is that the they seem to be social they seem to be economically driven also", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so if you look at Russia and what's happened over there i think the change in Communism was as a result of the economic problems that they were experiencing i think was i look at the economic problems in the United States right now one of the things you wonder is what's that going to do to us", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "true", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think the other kind of changes like job changes and those kinds of things i mean i think it's great that you can have three or four different careers in your life i think it must've been terribly boring to go through your life doing just one thing for fifty years or forty years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum [laughter] [laughter] yes yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i think that opportunity for job change in the fact that that aspects changing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "true true", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and the uncertainty of whether you're gonna have a job is not as good but the fact that you really can make major changes in your life and jobs", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum well do you do you think that's good or bad", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think it's great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you think that's great", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that someth[ing]- yeah because a lot of people seem to stagnate once they get into position they they're very comfortable they lose the ability to learn and the in a sense become unteachable they think they know all there is to know in their area set path and you know come in and put my time in from nine to five and when that's over with that's that's it without even giving a second thought to [vocalized-noise] advancing their education or getting extracurricular um education and and i think that's an excellent opportunity for us to to expand ourselves also", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think one of the problems with with education in as it relates to this though is that i don't know that e[ducation]- education is prepared to help people make those changes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it still seems a lot of the training and education that goes on is gearing people towards a profession", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and not giving them_1 the skills and whatever those skills are necessary to make those job changes which i think's gonna be a hard thing for for people to face", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes i agree with that i agree with that so i i believe that uh an individual should really learn how to to learn", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "learn how to adapt learn how to grow in the in their college or whatever education they might take so that that's good that's good ", "role": "user" }, { "content": " there probably needs to be some training on how to to to to adjust to these changes as they come about ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i mean if you look at the the high unemployment rate right now and you look at people who are in those situations i don't know that they have good coping skills or a lot of them_1 even ideas of how to make those changes now", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so it seems to me that while those changes are taking place maybe we're not well preparing people to make the changes with them", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i i- i read a few articles off in the newspaper and some publications where stress uh for those people that are laid off and also for those people that are not laid off but were threatened with a layoff and threatened with a reduction in their company is extremely high right now that stress is a very prominent factor in the work place ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it affect[s]-", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we just bought our first home after being in school and so we're just first time homeowners who've only been living here about six months", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh okay um well i've lived in the in the Dallas and Richardson area for about uh twenty five and a half years twenty six years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh boy", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and we're in our second home now we've been in it for uh about thirteen fourteen years i think now in Richardson", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh so y[ou're]- you're an old pro then", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we've lived in the Richardson area for that you know for the full time uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum well what do you find having to be like out there i've always heard that it was expensive", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well it's it's not really all that bad uh i think you live in Plano so uh the uh the Plano area and the Richardson area probably are are about the same {pricewise} i would think", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum oh really hm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well we uh when we graduated from school in Houston uh my husband w[ent]- went to school at Rice and got his PhD so that that's what brought us here and um we had um heard a lot about Richardson being a good area and the homes there being really nice and but we kind of just got the impression it was out of our price range", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah well um i know i i think that there's some areas in you know in uh Richardson that may be a little bit higher priced but uh of course it like i said i've it's been thirteen years since we've really priced a house so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] so i'm not sure what the prices are like now uh i know that our pri[ce]- that the the value of our house went up you know considerably o[ver]- over a you know uh oh an eight or ten year period", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but then for the last several years it's pretty well stabilized uh and perhaps even dropped back some from what it was so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really hm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh we've done uh you know in order to maintain ours we've done some remodeling and stuff you know just to to kind of change do some some little changes occasionally so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh but uh i guess i'm i'm a little encouraged with home prices i i'm a CPA and i was just talking to one of my clients uh yesterday uh or you know over the last couple of days", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well that makes sense", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they have sold a house that was quite expensive and bought one you know that was was more reasonably priced it's uh in Dallas but it's in the Richardson School District", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum hm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and the the lady is very pleased you know she says it's got everything she w[ant's]- you know thinks she'll ever want in a house and it was several thousand dollars less than the one that they sold so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that's good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i I suppose that the housing market is uh you know it is on the on the down side right now", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] well do you have a lot of homes out there that have um foundation problems that seems to be the pretty much the rule out here", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i'm not really aware of those i do know that that our house uh we've had to have the shower pan in the master bedroom replaced twice", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "because uh apparently the foundation shifts a little bit under that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but that was a design problem because we put uh and we designed the house so it's our fault but we had them_1 put the shower on a corner uh like our house is built in a U shape ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and in inside that U but on one of the corners uh is where that shower is", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so any shifting in the foundation of course or or you know i guess i feel that way anyway that that that shifting would cause some problems in that in that area of the house", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and of course the shower pan is a pretty fragile piece of uh of metal or plastic whichever it is anyway so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so did it look cracked to you i mean that's how you knew it was broken or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no it uh it started leaking through the you know out through the pan and out onto the floor and it's soaking up in the Sheetrock or in things right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh oh so that's that's how you knew well since like i say we're first time homeowners i'm still scared about everything like that [laughter] going wrong and how do you know it's going to happen and all", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh but uh yeah but i think uh you know i think so far as uh as the location Richardson Plano are probably comparable the the school districts are you know are about the same uh you know quality wise", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum we really like our school out here", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but we um we were scared to buy a an house in our neighborhood because all of the homes did have these foundation problems and we didn't know um you know if we were afraid we'd be living there and all of a sudden the house would crack in half and split open [laughter-or] [laughter-something]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum [laughter] yeah but uh well our house and i'm not sure how all of the b[uilders]- you know how most of the builders do but ours is what they call uh post tensioned which means that there are iron bars you know that run through the foundation", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum hm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and once they get the foundation poured then they they apply tension to that iron bar which compresses the concrete and makes it more uh s[table]- more stable and and puts more strength into it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so uh you know it it uh potentially that's supposed to just mean that the foundation kind of floats when the you know when the the earth itself shifts around so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well that's good well that's really good well our house is older it's like a nineteen sixty three", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "house that we bought so i'm not doesn't seem like it um i mean i know so much has changed in their technology in the last few years", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah right uh is yours a is it a a slab foundation or pier and beam", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's slab", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah so that's and that's what ours is our h[ouse]- the house we had before was over we live on the east side of Richardson now and the other one was over on the west side and it was uh a pier and beam house", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh i just drove by there this morning and it still looks just as good as it did when we moved out of it thirteen years ago so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well that's good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah so you know i think houses uh i think they hold up pretty well if you've got a if you have a good builder", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes my grandfather was a builder and so my parents always lived in houses that he built and then they knew they were getting a good deal so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i uh appreciate that information about Richardson i know it was um it's got a really good reputation and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay [laughter] yeah so well it uh you know i think it's a a good place to live uh or course if i didn't think that well we wouldn't still be [laughter-living] [laughter-here] so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] fourteen years that's pretty good well thank you and well um you g[ood]- good luck with this program then bye-bye", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right yeah that would okay thank you uh okay thank you you too", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "i think i get most of my news uh in headlines from the radio and then i follow up by reading the newspaper and news magazines about things that attract my attention", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i- i do about the same i guess but in a different fashion i- i- i'm from New York originally and now that i live in Florida i live in the Florida in the winter and then go back up north in the in the summertime", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i i feel that the the only legitimate [laughter-paper] although it might sound a little elitist is the New York Times i've always read the New York Times when i was younger and i try to f[ind]- now that it has a national edition i read that i also read uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i- i- i guess i do watch uh McNeil Lehrer on P B S because i- i lean to that coverage and and i've i guess i'm [vocalized-noise]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh i like them but they take so long i don't always have time [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well yeah that's a whole hour show actually it's an hour show each evening and and uh we we turn it on when we start dinner we seem to start dinner around six and finish it up", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i find that i'm leaning on uh i travel a great deal uh even overseas and i find that i lean on uh C N N quite a bit for concise and quick stuff and i'm i'm i- i'm quite satisfied with the way they put it out i mean i i don't believe everything they say but it it's it's coverage you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i think C N N does a pretty good job i had not watched them very much except when i was abroad until the Gulf War", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they seemed to have the best coverage they had more information sooner than most of the other networks", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh well yeah i- i- i uh Peter Arnett was reporting direct from uh Iraq i think this is scandalous the way everybody's picking on him i- i think that what he he reported what he saw and if you didn't like it that was just too bad you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah well uh i know that the coverage he was allowed to present was slanted but i think they said that frequently enough that [vocalized-noise] you shouldn't criticize the man for giving us one perspective uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah oh yeah i mean i [vocalized-noise] no that that's right i think so and and i guess if it comes to um to magazines i don't read i used to when i was younger i subscribed to Time and U S News and World Report i- i have seemed to slide away from that and rely more on the local paper or i- i- i also subscribe to something called World Press which is uh a magazine that only talks about other uh excerpts from the world press which sort of gives you a different slant than it's not", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "as slanted as the New York Times or as biased perhaps as a local paper", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh that i guess and the radio uh i listen to P B S radio a lot and i also listen to uh uh these twenty four hour news stations when i'm driving i", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah we have a C B S twenty four hour station that i listen to on the way to and from work and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah do you read uh are you from southern or northern California", "role": "user" }, { "content": "northern i'm from uh the peninsula Palo Alto", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "s[o]- so well yeah is that what what is that the San Francisco paper out there is uh the major paper", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well it's horrible The San Francisco paper is just wretched", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's a terrible paper [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i subscribe to the San Jose Mercury News um uh Palo Alto is about midway between well it's a whole lot better than that San Francisco paper and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "is that pretty good oh the [vocalized-noise] what is that the Chronicle isn't it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah there's the Chronicle and the Examiner but they're uh both uh run by the same pe[ople]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh oh yeah they ju[st]- [vocalized-noise] they really are the uh probably the worse papers i've ever read i [vocalized-noise]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they're just horrid so we read the", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well can you get the L A paper up there that's a pretty decent paper isn't it or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh we can but i don't like it so we subscribe to the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal and the Mercury News", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah yeah well that's another one i read i forgot that i read the Wall Street Journal not as in depth as i used to because they their articles seem to be getting even longer and [laughter-longer] [laughter-but]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes well again i read that uh two columns on the front", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah uh i think i- i agree with you that the problem seems to be they don't have enough time to do all the stuff uh i feel pretty well versed in in what i'm doing because i- i do spend more time on that than i do say on sports or ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "although i watch that i spend a lot of time reading about these things i'm quite interested i find it very exciting to for the coverage we have now today", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes and i think we do get pretty good coverage i don't feel that the American people is being [laughter-shortchanged] by the uh the news coverage", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the if anything they i think they listen", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we almost have too much", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh well i don't know i- i hear a lot of criticism about listening to these to the Dan Rathers of the world and and listen[ing]- and and taking their word for it or their comment actually they i think they slant things but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i cannot stand Dan Rather i remember him when he was a local newscaster in Houston and i hated him then", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] no kidding oh well i didn't know that yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i would not watch that man for money and [vocalized-noise] he and Barbara Walters just really turn my stomach so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah w[as]- w[as]- [vocalized-noise] was he", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i watch Peter Jennings and uh and Tom Brokaw sort of alternate", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well how do you feel about it i guess i i got to say if that's the subject if the subject is do i feel that we're well enough equipped to i don't know if if it said that i feel i'm well enough equipped", "role": "user" }, { "content": "do we get enough news or something like that do we get uh th[e]- the do we get the news that we want and i do i really think ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah to yeah yeah i think i do too i think you have to let uh you [yous/you] got to segregate some of it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well that's about all i have to say [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay well nice to talk to you bye bye", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "nice talking to you bye bye", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "um [vocalized-noise] i personally have a lot of feelings about the way our judicial system is run but um yeah ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i do not know i just uh [vocalized-noise] i- i do not know i have you ever been for called for jury duty", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no i haven't have you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no i haven't and oh is that you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i am still here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay uh a friend of mine was just called before and uh it's amazing the that they have to go through about four hundred people to get a a jury for this one case ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "good grief", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because um there was everybody seemed to have some sort of bias you know uh very hard to find um you know extremely um um yeah impartial people but anyway i think it would be interesting but um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah impartial", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "how do you what do you think about the way it's run", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well well the you know on the suggested topic was to talk about whether uh verdicts had to be unanimous decisions", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i thought that was that really got me to thinking you know and i think we really need them to be unanimous", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "be[cause]- i'd hate to think that that you know if if i was charged with something that i was not guilty of that i got convicted on a you know seven to five [laughter-verdict] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] that's true that's a good point um aren't they supposed to be unanimous though now isn't that the way it is okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know yeah they are i think th[ey]- uh i think they need to stay that way ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes i agree i do [vocalized-noise] although i do not know i think that the judge should be involved i re[ally]- at this point i am not sure how it works but let's say that a jury decides somebody is guilty ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and the judge disagrees it it's not the judges final decision right it's the jury's", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right it's absolutely up to the jury", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "see a[nd]- and my feeling is this judge knows a whole i do not know i mean that's his job you know that and and it seems like all he is is a medi[ator]- mediator of the whole thing ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i know it but then if if you give him too much power you know that who knows i mean we got crooked cops", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well that's true yep you're right there's crooked everybody", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i know it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's really scary because you know you see i do not know if you ever watch saw the movie Presumed Innocent did you see that oh my God it's fabulous if you ever can rent it or something", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so no i didn't is it i've been trying to and it's never there yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really it's just great and it it's scary because it's just about that there are crooked cops and the whole case points to this one guy and you know he is innocent and um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that that kind of stuff ought to scar us to death i mean", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it does and then you watch this guy go to jail for um i should not be telling you because you are going to want to see it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i knot that he goes it it for the murder right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah and he goes to jail um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i just", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and oh it's really scary", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that would be awful", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah but but then i also see um oh i do not know this one case [vocalized-noise] here in Rochester where um we had a serial killer and they finally caught him and it [vocalized-noise] here he the guy had basically admitted to killing twelve girls yeah unbelievable and um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "good grief", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yet it was it was almost a type of thing where he almost wasn't guilty because they had this little flaw one piece of evidence", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's that's what bothers me the technicalities and that's where i think the judge [vocalized-noise] maybe ought to have more say you know ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh [vocalized-noise] ah yeah right i agree", "role": "user" }, { "content": "because i can't believe that that we can let the people off that we are letting off because you did not tell them this one statement before you took them to jail you [laughter-know] [laughter-like] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum right oh right or the whole the Marion Berry thing you know the the governor uh how they determined that he was um oh i do not know it was set up or something", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it's just", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean [vocalized-noise] this guy is dealing drugs it's not set up he was just doing it yeah ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm sorry he was doing it entrapment i'm sorry you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh i would love to be on a jury because i i do think it's fascinating i- [vocalized-noise] i i think it it's it's hard system i mean you are never going to get a right and a wrong you know it's just ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no there's there's no blacks and whites it's it's it's shades of gray ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "tha[t]- that's right yep", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i think i am like you i think it would be really fascinating i do not think i would want to be on a highly publicized case though i do not think i would like [laughter-that] [laughter-at] all ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "me either because it is tense for the jurors that were on this serial killing uh they couldn't read the newspaper they couldn't watch TV they couldn't talk about it and this went on for like six months", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm sure well you know they had uh a big drug trial in Roanoke Virginia a couple of years ago and my my husband was called for jury duty on that and he said that they had guards armed", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum really ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know guards posted everywhere and he was really glad that he wasn't called because he said that this would have been too much", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "wow yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i wouldn't like that at all", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh my goodness i like Judge Wapner type of thing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] oh you know simple uncomplicated thing you know ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] right like uh my dog bit the neighbor or [laughter-something] [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] we could start out small and work our way up ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah exactly ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but [vocalized-noise] it's just it's scary because um the[re]- there's just so much that can go wrong that could let an innocent person be convicted or a guilty person have them let go ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "absolutely that the nuances", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and yeah and um i do not know i guess it's it i do not know a lot about the terms but a hung jury is that when the it's not completely unanimous", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that yeah you know it would be split one way or another and and that ends in a mistrial", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh so what happens nothing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so they have to retry them they have to bring in a whole new jury they have to absolutely start over again", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh oh my God", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so and i do not know how many times you can have a hung jury i don't know if they the i don't guess they have to go back to ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "trial i guess you know they could drop the charges if they didn't think they'd ever convict him", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum did you see Sixty Minutes by any chance on um i guess it was this past Sunday night [vocalized-noise] they showed a guy who um he's a lawyer and what he's like known for now is getting men um ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no i didn't uh-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "off of charges of killing their wives or their ex-wives yeah isn't that lovely so there's this guy um i forget what his name is and he is a lawyer someplace and he's gotten so far about four or five", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh that's nice", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "men um free of the charge one guy went in stabbed his ex-wife to death because she was sleeping with another guy i mean ex-wife you know we're talking and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh my gosh yeah [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and um he got them off on the basis that he went temporarily insane", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i'll bet he did", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right temporarily insane that she provoked this in him because he was so madly in love with her that seeing you know this other man with her just drove him crazy ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh and it was her fault that he killed her", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah exactly it was her fault her uh they interviewed her parents it was crazy so now he has to serve like six months in a rehab center and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "sure and get psychiatric treatment", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "exac[tly]-", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": " talk in the background [laughter] [laughter-she's] [laughter-i] [laughter-don't] [laughter-know] what she sees outside well what kind of music do you like", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh well [laughter] well mostly rock", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "rock", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah what about you [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh oh everything u[m]-", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i like well i like different you know different things but uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "primarily you know rock and roll", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what era of rock and roll or whatever did you pre[fer]-", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh you know well you i- i really like more of the modern stuff you know but i like the oldies you know they're okay but i you know i listen mo[stly]- mostly to the you know the modern stations", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um um i guess we listen to a lot of things um i grew up with the with rock and roll and older brothers and sisters", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh so i wou[ld]- i remember always being kind of ahead of my [vocalized-noise] peers just because um you know in third grade i was [laughter-listening] [laughter-to] to groups and stuff that peo[ple]- you know third graders usually aren't interested in music by that time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i think now i listen we listen to a variety of stuff um jazz or countr[y]- and western or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "see now i don't like country and western uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "do you not i do[n't]- i don't like the old the old", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't like mo[st]- you know most of it i don't like but i recently saw that Garth Brooks show", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i thought he was terrific and i really thought i mean i thought he was a great you know really wonderful entertainer the way he um he you know he he was very good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i i there i think country music i don't like the real old twangy stuff like the ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't like [twainese/twangy] no i [non't/don't]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know but th[at]- it has under[gone]- undergone a lot of change and there's a like there's a guy named Lyle Lovett that he could be considered", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh he's really not that uh country i mean i've heard him sing stuff that really doesn't sound too you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but yeah see he doe[s]- it's more what do they call it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't know [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "sometimes i've heard it called Rockabilly where it's like rock and roll and or country but um but they refer to him you know as a country singer but a lot of his stuff sounds really jazzy", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah right i [vocalized-noise] yeah i have heard him and uh i didn't think he was a country singer you know i", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um they i mean they they term him as that but i i know well i've watched like the music awards or the country music awards before and they had him on as a new up and coming country singer", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh-huh oh well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so it's kind of i mean but there's a lot of people kind of like that that they're they're play[ing]- they're right on the line and you know the", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah that's true", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "at the the i guess the rock and roll side might be so saturated that you know they're trying out this and and we've gone country and western dancing [laughter-before] and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh y[ou]- really [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but and it when i don't i don't dance i mean country dance that well but you know just watching the people when they get out there is when they start playing the rock and roll music while the band's taking a break", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you [laughter-know] i mean they get out there and jitterbug and or you know whatever you want to call it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh so i think there's there's a lot of people out there now that aren't aren't just Johnny Cash [laughter-fans] [laughter-or] [laughter-or] you know or um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh i don't even know what the alt[ernative]-", "role": "user" }, { "content": " well you know i said let me watch this and see what all the fuss is about i mean everybody's raving about this guy you know and my son i[s]- i have a a son he's uh twenty four and of course he hates country music and he said ma i can't believe you're gonna watch that i said i have to find out", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "my best friend said she likes him i said i if Linda likes him i said he's go[nna]- not h[e]- he couldn't be all wrong you know i mean he's there's got to be something good about the [laughter-guy]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum [laughter-yeah]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter] so i watched it and really i i just thought he was terrific", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i saw previews of it and it looked more like a rock and roll concert than a", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't know but i mean and his songs uh uh were you know i liked them_1 uh were they weren't that silly country western stuff that you know they used to do years ago you know with with dopey lyrics you know very simple lyrics", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah and there's still some out there like that too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh you know they're yeah oh there are but uh uh yeah i think as a whole it's gotten more definitely more sophisticated in the you know in the past few years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i do too i do too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know but then i wouldn't li[sten]- you know listen to it uh you know steadily uh you know i wouldn't listen to it at all [laughter-actually] [laughter] you know i just don't really care for it any you know it as a whole but uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum what sta[tion]- do you listen to radio", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i usually listen to either the uh classic rock it's uh ninety two or or uh one oh two", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i switch around", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and then my husband loves the oldies you know every time he he gets in the ca[r]- the car he sticks on the oldies station", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well it's funny because_1 my my father um i'm youngest of six and we all play some type of music interest in[strument]- instrument and i had a couple of brothers that were in rock and roll bands and so forth so you know he was constantly having to grow up with us so at Christmas or his birthday we're always buying him", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "tapes you know to keep h[im]-", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "okay how did you find out about this", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well uh my brother-in-law sent me the thing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "from Texas oh [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right uh-huh and we're supposed to talk on voting is that right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes uh-huh uh why we think there's such a short[age]- uh low turn out", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay um do you want to start", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay well i think there's a uh a mult[iple]- multiple reasons i think first of all a lot of people are fed up and they think they don't really their vote doesn't count", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and second of all a lot of people just aren't educated to you know that they should do that [laughter] they should participate", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] they maybe they don't realize the importance of it or something", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right we had uh city councilman here that won by like a handful of votes you know ten votes or something", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " so that would have made a big difference if people had turned out for his opponent [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "boy i'll say", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i think another reason sometimes it's inconvenient", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the hours especially in a presidential election i don't know why it couldn't go on for several days or why we couldn't even phone in our vote you know you can you can uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "now the colleges you can register over the phone i don't see why we couldn't vote over the phone you know on the computers and all", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh that's an idea yeah well no we don't [laughter] not", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh you don't do that up there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah we have the voting but uh i never heard of", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean you don't register for college there they doing that all over the phone now down here at the big at the big schools now what city are you in ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh wow oh it's Mantua it's just a small small community we probably only have like oh seventy well maybe seven hundred people [laughter] not very many", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really oh m[y]- my that's interesting [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right so when we vote it's like you say there's it's a handful of of votes makes a difference in fact this last November they had a vote and i think there was only like oh five to ten votes within the three different you know the three different people that were runn[ing]- for for the office of", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right just a difference of five or ten real[ly]- hm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes yes in each of them_1 and so like you say it makes a difference but that's that's a good idea about having it the voting over the phone maybe someday it will", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right yeah we could use our Social Security number or something there ought to be some way that they could safe guard it but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it will a come [vocalized-noise] uh-huh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh especially presidential because_1 you know sometimes you do have to stand in line for a long time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right and you know i wonder i don't know what the [satistics/statistics] are but i wonder what age um the least has the least good turn out for the voting", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that's a an interesting point i have no uh no idea i wonder", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i wonder if it's the younger people or the older people or just in the middle-aged or or who it is that doesn't turn out my guess would be the younger", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum that's true i know a lot of them that don't vote uh because my i have a twenty year old and i know a lot of her friends don't vote", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh i go to school right now and i i've heard kids say they don't vote", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh oh just because they don't care", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " i guess well they don't really read the newspaper much y[ou]- kn[ow]- i you know at that age i can remember being in college the f[irst]- the first time and i was a journalism major and i hardly ever read the paper [laughter] i think i mean it's appalling when i look back but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh uh-huh [laughter] uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know i think that may be part of it too they're not really informed", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right and i don't know how big of a problem this is but i wonder if i've heard some people say on occasion that that the the candidates they don't care for any of them_1 so they don't want to you know they don't want to give their [vate/vote] vote for one or of other just because_1 they [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "y[eah]- that's true that's very true i've heard people on talk shows say that they feel that that's a statement when they don't vote at all", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh right right that that's some that's saying hey you know we want somebody", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "better for the candidate i don't know i think that's kind of a cop out [laughter] i really do i think you ought to you know make your opinion one way or the other there i mean if you even if you don't agree with", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "cop out [laughter-yeah] [laughter-i] [laughter-think] [laughter-so] [laughter-too] i know even if you're voting against somebody more than for someone which i usually am nowadays [laughter] in the national elections it seems", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right [laughter] right we have", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh i don't know when when i voted for somebody with great enthusiasm it was a long time [laughter-ago] oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] and so this last election here in in our community they had um they counted them_1 by hand you know the ballots by hand and i know that on the bigger ones they have little it's a punch card system are you familiar with that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum no you you punch it something out", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right you you h[ave]- with your pencil you just punch you know they have a little tray that holds the ballots", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum oh no i've never seen one like that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and apparently it makes the the counting a lot easier for the", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "for those that are counting it but um with just the small ones they just go ahead and count it by hand and i really liked the the punch card one because we got the results so much sooner when it was over", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh right well we have uh where you fill it in with the lead pencil and and the machine counts it it's really fast too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh oh yeah that would be they probably can turn those results in", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " it well well right like the Scantron you know they call it that goes through the machine i half the tests i take in school now are that way", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "-[it]'s so easy i just stick them_1 in this machine and get the number [vocalized-noise] out you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh wow that's fascinating", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right [laughter-right]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh so have you ever run for any kind of", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh do you work", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes i do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what do you do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i'm a data manager at a manufacturing company that makes landing gear", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh well do they have good job benefits", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes they do very good uh comparable i used to work for TI and i used to work for Martin Marietta and they are comparable to them um as good or better", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what do do you work", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no i don't", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh i said my husband works on the railroad they've got a lot of benefits but it's expensive", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "this uh the insurance is a kick in the tail every month [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i uh my insurance is is very reasonable where i work and course the", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it would well the insurance is good we only have to pay like a hundred dollar deductible per year it's just it's uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's like a hundred dollars a month", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh is it really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well i mean well that's just", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i i chose an HMO and mine only runs five dollars a uh five dollars a month", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well this is uh like retirement benefits and it's a bunch of different benefits in one it's not just", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i see", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's not just medical insurance", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay well i pay five dollars a month for my medical and then we have a retirement uh benefits packa[ge]- a profit sharing type of thing they match our uh we can put in up to fifteen percent and they'll match uh sixteen six percent one hundred percent you know so that is that's better than most companies do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's great yeah that's good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "plus plus they you know we have bonds we have a credit union it's a fairly it's not a real large company well it is it's part of a large company it's a subsidiary of a large company and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum whoops i'm sorry", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we have three diff[erent]- that's my call's waiting they'll just have to call back uh we have uh uh we're part of a", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'm sorry ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "company in we have a company in California and a company in Canada and this company here and uh so we have about five hundred employees at each place", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh so it's that's about fifteen hundred all together then we but we're a a subsidiary of a of a larger company so we have all the benefits that all the big large companies have i don't know any that we don't have", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't know a lot about benefits most of the jobs that i've had you know we[re]- i don't have a degree i quit college when i first got pregnant with my little boy", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i plan on going back just i want to wait for my kids to grow up now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh uh i'm sorry [laughter] so all i've had was mainly fast food jobs and i worked at a toy store and i worked at TI for a while but it was for Manpower so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's all right oh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " i liked working at TI", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i worked for TI for seventeen years and then i moved to Florida and worked at Martin Marietta in Orlando for four years and then i got", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh you're in Florida", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i wa[s]- no i'm in Texas uh i left Martin Marietta for this company here in Fort Worth it's i'm in Grapevine right now but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i work in Fort Worth and they just offered me such a fantastic deal i i just couldn't turn it down there wasn't any way i could turn it down they they moved me and they paid for every i mean they paid for everything my license my driver's license m[y]- all my utilities at my home plus you know paying to move my furniture and my license tags everything i just you know and plus a huge salary increase and i thought God i'd be stupid if i don't take this and i wanted to come back to Texas anyway so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " well that's great", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and like i say they have all those same benefits that Martin Marietta and TI had so um i've", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what did you say you did again a com[puter]- a da[ta]-", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm a data manager", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i took data processing in college", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh di[d]- no this is a lot of people think that it has something to do with computers and it really doe[sn't]- i mean i do have a computer but it it really doesn't have anything to do with computers it's data that uh is generated like reports test reports financial repor[ts]- all kinds of reports that that uh a project would generate uh now it's my job to see that c[ontractually]- contractually these people you know deliver them_1 on time and i have to make sure that they they do get delivered and that's that's what my job is and it's that's that kind of data instead of", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "instead of computer data well that sounds great though what did you do at TI", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh-huh i was a a configuration manager at at TI which was sim[ilar]- well it was uh similar but wasn't i mean i it was uh doing uh it was a little bit more technical configuration m[anagement]- management it's a little bit more technical than what i'm doing now and i liked it but it was a it was a job that i always felt like i didn't have control of you know what i mean i never felt like i'd mastered that job and when i moved to Florida i moved down there as a configuration manager", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and stayed there from uh stayed at that job for quite a while until i got an opportunity to go into data management which i and i've been in that ever since and love it i mean that's just my cup of tea the configuration manager was", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right oh i hate to feel out of control of anything", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i do too and i really did i'd sit there and you know when people asked me what i did i never could really tell them_1 what i did because_1 i didn't know because_1 i you know [laughter] i was doing the job", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] you played it by ear", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i was getting good raises and my [laughter-boss] even goes you even got non periodic raises but i really just felt so c[ontrol]- out of control", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so but anyway i'm and i like i say i've always been with a company that's had a lot of benefits so uh and a[nd]- when you get older now i know when you're younger my daughter just doesn't realize it but i wish i had when i was younger thought about retirement but you know you think oh that's twenty years away from now who's going to worry about it well i", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum well me and my husband are we've talked about it we're having six dollars a day taken out of his check for retirement", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's good that's smart i wish i could talk my daughter into realizing that she works at TI also", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well that's", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and she needs yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "at the TI in Sherman or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no she w[orks]- at the Expressway site uh SC Building", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay well uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um that's about the only thing we're doing for retirement now when i worked i wanted to go to TI i was wanting to become a TIer that way i could get some benefits because most the jobs around here you can't get benefits", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah i know isn't that a shame", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "especially if you well if you don't have a degree or something", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i'll go back to school one of these days and i will get me a", "role": "user" }, { "content": "see well i was uh forty five before i got my degree i uh started back when i was it took me nine years i was about thirty something before i even went back to school or even started college", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i was forty five when i finally graduated", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i was eighteen and i went and got my GED i quit the high school i just couldn't stand it and then course i hated it two years after i quit i wish i'd never done it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh oh yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but then i i went and got my GED and i went to school and then i i loved college i was making a three point oh average i wasn't having hardly any problem[s]- except for with my computer class i did have problems there but uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "now i was then i was old enough to know you know well i'm paying for it i've got to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know do something with it but then i wanted to stay home with the babies so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i stayed home with my kid i think i guess the longest i ever stayed home was eight years i stayed home with my kids and uh my son went ahead and graduated from college and my daughter has quite a few hours but she bless her she and her husband are you know kind of struggling he's a policeman [vocalized-noise] they're both having and she works a second job too so she really doesn't have time i g[uess]- if she wanted to make time she could but and eventually i think she'll go back when it really means something to her but right now that's not foremost and her she likes being with her little girl", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well we're having a hard time right now too but it's just who if the kid if kids don't have direction if their mother ain't home directing them through the day kids are growing up wild nowadays", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i know it i know it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "my mom had to work and i i can feel the difference um a lot of", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well my husband had somebody to push him his mother was able to stay home with him more and you know he got his life straight at an early age which i'm not a i ne[ver]- i never went wild or anything but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i still don't know what i want to be when i grow up and i'm twenty seven years old [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i know [laughter-it] [laughter-that's] [laughter-me] i here am i in my fifties and i still don't know what i want to [laughter-do] but my my mother didn't work she was always home so and it [vocalized-noise] d[idn't]- i guess really looking back", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "knowing that she was always there when we got home from school my mother was there and what i did when my kids were growing up since i had to work i worked nights i was home i was sleepy but i was home when they got home from school ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah that's what's important isn't it you have t[o]- while i'm when they start going to school now my baby's just three months old and i'm not having any more so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'm going to be there for them at least until they're in the second well until the baby starts", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh school", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "pre[school]- uh kindergarten not preschool", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "which it don't take long it seems like just yesterday that my little boy was born and he's fixing to go to school next year", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh is he", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah they're all growing up", "role": "user" }, { "content": "your your husband works for the railroad you say", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah he sure does", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh now d[o]- do they have pretty good benefits there besides uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah their medical and dental is real good and uh like i said they do make it easy for you to that's where a lot of our money is going is toward his retirement but i wa[nt]- we'll like that once you know we get older", "role": "user" }, { "content": "is it sure oh yeah abso[lutely]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and we'll need it and like i said that's six dollars a day and oh i haven't really sat down and figured it out but i guess it'd be pretty easy three times six is what eighteen", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah so it's a hundred and eighty a month", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh once i did well yeah that'll add up fast fast fast absolutely yeah you're smart in doing that i would never quit that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah no well it's it's like this we don't see it so we don't really miss it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i've started uh that's right that i went the other day and had them_1 start taking some money out of my uh s[avings]- my checking at work t[o]- in to put into savings account plus i buy a two hundred dollar a month a bond a month so th[ey'll]- and they'll stack up faster than you realize", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah now i wish they had that bond here i know that they had that at TI for the T[I]-", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "okay [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] all right last thing i saw was um i think uh Sleeping With the Enemy with Julia Roberts", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i hadn't seen that but i've heard that it's real good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "my husband didn't like it that much i thought it was okay it was a little strange you know this woman supposedly is um being mentally abused by her husband you know he keeps her pretty much terrorized to stay in the house and she figures out this way to um to leave him secretly you know she fakes her death kind of thing and he tracks her down [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so the the end scenes are are kind of suspenseful you know when she realizes he's in the house you know after her but uh kind of had the feeling along that uh why didn't she just tell him to straighten up [laughter] you know why didn't she just tell hi[m]- hey look {bucko} you don't get away with this nonsense [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah oh ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but anyhow um what have you seen", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well last week as a matter of fact my children was on spring break and we went to two movies we went to see Awakenings", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "with Robin Williams and we went to see Kindergarten Cop", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i really liked both of them i really did Awakening was it was kind of sad to me it really was and it would it would be to anyone because you know they really don't know that much about it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh so this is where the people have been kind of well i don't a better word to say than like asleep or in a coma for a long time and the drugs let them come back", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah yeah uh-huh but the drugs [vocalized-noise] didn't work for long and they started having real bad side effects ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and this is about nineteen sixty four i believe or something like that and there still hasn't been any you know new development in prescribed drugs that can help it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but yeah there you know it it was a big breakthrough but in time you know the all the side effects started showing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well how bad were the side effects", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "bad", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah they was actually went back like they were you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah all it was they wasn't mild you know they was just bad side effects", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but it [vocalized-noise] i really enjoyed it though ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well how about Kindergarten Cop", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah [laughter] that's strictly for entertainment [laughter] that was just [laughter] it was", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] you know Arnold Schwarzenegger is getting to be uh a bit of a variety actor you know at first he was just a big muscle man but he's kind of branching out", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah he sure is he is as a matter of fact um Sylvester Stallone is that his name i really believe Schwarzenegger is really going to be a varie[ty]- variety player more so than he is because he really played the part good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know he could be this rough tough guy and then you know this substitute teacher", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it was really good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well there was a movie out it's been on cable i get cable and there's this thing with uh Danny De Vito called Twins", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i've seen that yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i thought that was just great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it is it is isn't it yes yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i even like some i mean some of the original stuff like i like The Terminator at first you know it was kind of strange but i still like watching him in The Terminator and and some of the other things um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Total Recall last year i thought was really good last summer", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "guess it didn't last too long at the box office but i thought it was pretty good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i did too i really did", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it was", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i enjoy a lot of movies now as far as let's say heavy violence i can't handle", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'm not into that you know i ju[st]- like Rambo and all that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i that's just something i just don't want to watch", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah and i i have some [laughter] one person at work i know gets really into those goofy horror flicks ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i just keep telling her how can you do that and i told her when she had her her little girl i said now you better get out of the habit of watching those you shouldn't be watching them with your little girl and she says her little girl's into it now", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh my goodness", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and she wa[tches]- she watches these really gross things you know like The Nightmare on Elm Street and the you know that kind of junk i don't go for that at all", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes oh uh-huh yeah oh i guess i'm a little too scary [laughter-for] [laughter-that] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i remember when i was real little i we all went to some kind of scary movie and it was like this h[ouse]- big house had a basement and there was all these weird things going on in the basement you know and i was scared to death of our house had a basement for years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know and i got a lot of really weird ideas from that goofy movie", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes yes yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know they tell you that kids can you know be impressed by all that stuff and it's true i i had a lot of things that i i nobody told me that it was all fake i was just sitting there watching it going oh jeez", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it is it really is yes watching yeah oh i don't wanna go home yes yes [laughter] oh goodness ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] but i think a lot of kids it's funny get the same kind of fears like there's somebody under the bed", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "where do we get that from", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes i know uh i have two children i really try to watch what they watch i really do because my youngest one he watches something you might as well just plan on staying up all night because you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] he'll come in mama i think the ghost is in the house mama i hear it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "don't you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "how old are they", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they're eight and ten", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so they're you know they hadn't really distinguished it's just a movie you know i try to say it's just a movie but no mama i've seen it [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh but i remember i was with a friend of mine had uh three kids and the little boy must have been oh maybe about ten and we rented Charlotte's Web okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and he just bawled at the end and just uh she's not going to die and we were trying to say Kenny it's okay and he didn't want to listen to it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh oh oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he just was beside himself you know this is supposed to be a nice children's movie Charlotte's Web he just couldn't stand it that Charlotte was going to die at the end", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "die oh [laughter] oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's funny how your little minds work isn't it oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah she's so nice no she can't die [laughter] oh it was jus[t]- ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh [laughter] oh i guess that's why the actors and actresses make millions of dollars people like us you know [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh goodness well well i've enjoyed talking to you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and maybe we'll run across each other again", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah this is kind of neat i haven't ever initiated a call i've just been called you know by the switchboard and uh well the first week i think a lot more people were doing it but i normally get a call like every other day", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "do you well as far as we could not call in last week", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know from where i'm at", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we couldn't call in they said it would be up Friday the March the fifteenth before it was prepared so i missed several days [vocalized-noise] because i was getting quite a few calls ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um how weird i don't know and they they do have a variety of topics my first one was the toughest it was something like discuss pollution [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh uh-huh oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it was discuss air pollution causes of it and cures i was going oh well [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes oh oh well my husband sometimes you know he'll receive a call and he's at work", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and if i you know if i know the topic i'll go ahead and accept it as mine but the other day i got one about fishing and i thought oh my", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't know a thing about fishing so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'm not even going to try [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because when they listened to that tape they would have really had a good time believe me", "role": "user" }, { "content": "say well i know it takes a fishing pole and some bait and some water", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i'm yeah but i'm really not for sure [laughter-though] [laughter] well i'll let you go and we'll talk to you later okay bye-bye ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] {alrighty} bye-bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "okay_1 um i'm i'm not to familiar with the topic because uh i haven't been in that [laughter-situation] i guess [laughter] but i watch a lot of the documentaries on TV and that kind of thing it always kind of interests me", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i had to run close the door so i didn't hear the whole thing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and oh okay about um penalty and trials and that kind of thing if it should be left up to the judge or trial by jury or to the people that kind of thing", "role": "user" }, { "content": " well i think it's uh the way it is is probably uh pretty good as far as the uh you know some of them_1 are i believe you uh the defendant has a chance to request trial by jury if they want", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i guess uh and there are some cases that go to the judge", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um and i think the topic was like um should it be that way or should it be um up to the people or um i think", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i uh again i think it's uh i think the defendant should have a choice there if he wants a trial by jury and then uh with the option of letting you know allowing the judge to try it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "some cases it you know probably doesn't require a full jury", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i would assume it would take more of the taxpayers' money for it to go through trial by jury but sometimes it seems like it comes out the outcome comes out the best ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah exactly that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "some[times]- in in most cases it comes out the best when it's trial by jury but i i could see where it could take up a lot of um the community's money that way rather than just leaving it up to the judge", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you think it uh it always comes out the best with a jury", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'd say for the most part not you know it's it's it's hard it really is but i", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum what about the fact that uh a jury may be six people in some cases but um uh maybe they're not you know one reason or another just maybe you get a bad bunch or [laughter-what] [laughter-ever] and they uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah you can you can but it seems like when i[t's]- when it's trial by jury it's a little more detailed it's a little more slower and um i don't know you it's uh it it requires a little bit more thinking", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um -[re]quires a little more research that kind of thing so that's why i say it probably mo[st]- in most cases i would think it would co[me]- the outcome would be better in most cases not always but uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i tell you what the [laughter-to[pic]-] al[ong]- along those lines a little more exciting topic is what the uh the uh criminal uh punishment panel is uh reviewing in Austin right now", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "now which is uh reducing a rape case without a firearm or without a weapon to uh just practically a misdemeanor", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah actually they call it a fi[fth]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "fifth fourth or fifth degree felony which is [laughter] can't ev[en]- you know be no jail time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh and of course the hottest topic of the day along jurisprudence lines is the uh the early release of prisoners at least down here in Houston it is", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i heard about that yeah yeah that's that's real scary you know i i i just think things are there's a lot of changes right now that are going on and it's getting to be where it's really it's just real scary", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um i don't know but then again i guess it takes up a lot of your taxpayers money and time and um i don't know it's just it's i don't [laughter-know] that's a hard one you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it's jus[t]-", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i uh they sure need to do something", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "with uh you know early release there's a uh as far as letting them_1 out when you have five percent of your capacity is still available i think they're uh they're just they're just con[cerned]- too concerned with prisoners rights and not enough concern for victim's rights you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "do you feel that that's worth yeah right i they had a uh a documentary tha[t]- on that on uh do you ever watch Forty Eight Hours", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i mean uh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they had something very similar to that and uh and that's real scary too you know i mean to to really think about it really is", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well there's a there's a bill been passed last year that uh would allow i don't know exactly where these beds are but there's some i guess they tap in like hospital beds and all and what the uh intent is to is lump them in with the actual prison beds they have and and that way thereby increasing the uh capacity immediately", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "okay well i worked out today [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i didn't [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you didn't do you do you ever", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah i end up being um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a lot", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we're fixing to go on vacation so i'm running here and there and everywhere and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah well that's a workout in itself getting ready to go huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it th[e]- the recorder came on i went oh boy d[o]- how do i miss today because i thought if i'd be there right now [laughter] i couldn't have taken this call [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so my guilt feelings come rushing through but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah do you go every day", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh usually yeah i try to um go to i have a membership at Fit[ness]- Fitness and Figure World here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah oh really", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "is that is that male and female", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah mine is just female i'm too big of a wimp to go to the male and female", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well it's it's it's kind of like oh your split-level house its got the male stuff on one side", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] oh really", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh and then it has a Nautilus equipment that male or female can use and then it's got your aerobics room which is coed and then it's got the female side which has all their Nautilus that they can use by theirselves and their own sauna", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah do a lot of the guys do the aerobics", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh no not most of them most it's mostly female", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "just mostly female have they been have you done the bench bench aerobics yet", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah the steps", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "do you like it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm still not sure about it yet", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i've a", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i yeah i'm too busy concentrating if i'm going to twist my ankles or something yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] fall off the bench [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah because_1 i have broken both my ankles so i'm real leery about", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh no", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well i- i read an article that it's really not that good on your knees", "role": "user" }, { "content": "stepping and looking and well i didn't i don't know how it could be", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i haven't i haven't ventured with that yet", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm i'm thinking it may be just a fad and will pass with everything else", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah but in our classes there's a ton of people that do it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and they do it i think they only have it like three times a week because_1 i think that's what they pretty much recommend but still uh i think that would be so hard on your knees", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and you know the boxes get pretty tall and i um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't know i haven't got to the tallest one yet and it hasn't the i did uh when i first started it bothered my knees behind my knees", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh that's strange", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's the only place i was sore and i thought well i must not be doing them right or", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "or something because that i have no need for that muscle back there [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah really i can't ever think of when you would use that huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so so i'm you know i can see where it because_1 it effected my knees", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "wow", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i did regular aerobics like last night with without the boxes and i got more of a workout", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it was a no bounce class", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah oh really", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i still got more of a workout as far as in you know stamina etcetera", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh well i was a cheerleader for a long long time so i don't get into the aerobics at all because_1 it's too much like cheerleading so i mostly just ride the bike and do the weights on the machines", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i do they have {aquacise} which i like that quite a bit", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Now i've been to that i haven't been to that yet uh i've i've it jus[t]- it just doesn't move fast enough for me i don't think", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well i mean you know it varies from instructor to instructor but if you get a good one you can get a pretty good workout yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i've got to have something hyper really i've never tried it so i guess i've i ought to try it before i think it's not fast enough", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well yeah you'd think with broken ankles that would be a good way to go because_1 you don't get that friction when you land", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh well", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i've never", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i guess i ought to try i don't know it just never appealed to me as much as as", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "as uh just for real hard aerobics does for some reason and and then the weights and i'm really um like in the the step machines ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah oh yeah that's great do y[ou]- is it a Stairmaster", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i'm not sure what it is", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because_1 see the one that we have isn't Stairmaster so it's not quite as good i don't think but um it's it's real good for you but boy they say that you're supposed to go twenty minutes and i can't do that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i've been trying to work up to it but i can't", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh when they first started me i had a girl who was training me and she'd only been there three weeks and she says well you just push this button and you turn the dial and you just go and i'm like one side would go down and then the other side and i thought i- and these guys on each side of me are just pumping it like you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i'm going there's got to be something wrong here and the guy looks over and says he's got you started on ten [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh no", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so let's turn it down and then i was keeping up with him you know but it was funny because i thought", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i am like in slow motion compared to everybody around me what i- and i felt like way out of shape and it just happened to be the dial was wrong but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] you mostly go the evenings", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i attempted going in the mornings and it was really good because then it was out of the way and you know and nothing interfered but it's just so much harder to get up that much earlier", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i am more i used to do i used to run in the mornings", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i hate running", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and in i'm just much more stretched out by the evening", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "from work and everything because i was really having uh backaches and stuff when i'd get halfway through the day i couldn't figure out why", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i hadn't thought about that yeah huh i hadn't thought about that well my other problem was i'd get to the club and i'd be getting ready to go to work and i'd realize i didn't have my blouse or something", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] so that was always kind of traumatic", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it could be of course i don't know it could be great for business", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah i wo[nder]- i did i literally went in one day in my linen skirt and a sweatshirt", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh my gosh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so anyway well enjoy your vacation", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i'm looking forward to it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "where you going", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh we're going to San Diego", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that will be fun", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i have family that lives out there so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh well have a good time i'm sure you'll look fine in your bathing suit", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well thanks yeah [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] oh we have a lake party this weekend so i'm really kind of going ugh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well it was for one thing i haven't we've we've been in the water a lot we have a boat and we skied a lot but i just haven't brought myself to ski yet this year so maybe maybe this weekend", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i've yeah if it's good we've we've been out a couple times and gotten into the swing of it so we're we're ready we go to l[ake]- we stay here ski here Lake Beltin", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "which lake do you go to oh huh well i'm is it a big one", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we might have to check that out sometime well okay have a good vacation talk to you later bye-bye", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah okay thanks bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": " actually i don't have much recent experience uh but i have done uh a variety of fishing probably the most favorite uh was when i was of youth um probably in the ages ten to fifteen when i went out with my dad uh we lived in we lived on the uh southeast coast of Florida about a mile from the ocean we went out off the coast of Fort Lauderdale Miami", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "in uh small boat with a small outboard motor", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "went out a mile two miles three miles sometimes and bottom fished and uh and got lots of fish very rapidly basically went out to a reef and uh which probably about oh ten fathoms or something like that and uh and we just pull up fish usually pull up fish as fast as you could let your line down", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and sometimes uh had some fun uh with trigger fish that would follow other fish up and then then you'd catch the trigger fish right at the surface", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "occasional shark or an occasional octopus things of that nature but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that must have been neat with octopus [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well that was pretty rare you know but every once in a while you'd get something like that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah most of [vocalized-noise] i haven't really done any like like you said in awhile it's uh most of my favorite fishing was before i came in the service and that was trout fishing up in Wyoming", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i see", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and we went out to a lot of lakes and the streams and stuff and went fishing i did some fly fishing and stuff in the streams and tha[t]- that's pretty fun doing fly fishing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "now where do you do uh trout fishing in Wyoming", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a lot of most of the lakes up there have rainbow trout in them_1 or brook trout", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i see so you would fish in the lake", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and the fly fishing is in the stream or what", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah in the in the stream or a river you know uh what if you got a pretty good if you know it has to be probably knee deep or a little deeper for you know in a creek before you can really do any good fishing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um you fish from the bank or do you wade", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a lot of times just fish from the bank um unless you get a good sp[ot]- spot in the corner you can kind of wade out a little bit but most of my fishing was done from the bank", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but it it was pretty fun uh i've caught a three four pound trout before and that's pretty good size trout [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um i've caught some we got one reservoir up there that has some walleye in it and i caught some of them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "where abouts in Wyoming is this", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh up near Devil's Tower northeast corner", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i see", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh and oh we went to Florida where my grandfather lives we went out and did some uh fishing out in the ocean so that was pretty neat too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "where abouts is this", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh Sarasota", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i see that's quite different from the east coast the the the uh gulf coast uh you have to go out like maybe ten or twenty miles before you get more than knee deep almost ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "whereas on the east coast uh you go out a mile and you're already uh five ten fathoms down", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it it was it's pretty good though you know some of the bays are you know a little deep you know where they come in and stuff but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hm", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh it it was uh an experience you know because_1 he had his own boat", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so what did you what did you get there off Sarasota ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh i'm not really sure what they called it [laughter] uh i don't even remember it's been such a long time what i was catching", "role": "user" }, { "content": "have you ever been sport fishing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no i haven't", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'd like to do that sometime i've never been sport fishing the closest i've come is to is uh go out on party boats drift fishing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah which is pretty nice we did that in New Jersey not too many years ago and uh did it just at the right time and we got into just schools and schools of blue fish big ones about they each one weighed about ten pounds", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know they were about like uh three four feet long", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that pretty good size", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah yeah that was really uh rea[lly]- i guess they may be about three feet long not four but u[m]- um that was something they really fought like", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you like n[othing]- nothing else i'd ever had", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i've watched a lot of them sport fishing things on TV you know where they're out in the deep sea fishing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hm", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "well what are your did you like do you use credit cards", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh not very often i usually uh the ones we use is like visa and we always try to pay it back at the end of the month", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh-uh so it doesn't gets uh uh the credit uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i have uh uh right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh interest rate is so high that you're really if you're going to use credit cards you need to use that policy i think don't you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "otherwise you end up paying so much more for your merchandise that it's hardly", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh it's not a very good idea", "role": "user" }, { "content": "do you have a lot of credit cards", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i have a lot of them but i don't use them very much though ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] i use them mostly for big things like maybe sometimes uh tuition if it's you know if i'm short to go ahead and get it and then try to get it saved back as quick as i can the other thing i i think if you do get overextended a little bit you need to be sure and pay it off uh more than one at a time because i think you could run forever paying what they require", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "just goes on and on", "role": "user" }, { "content": "which is what they want", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think a lot of people go in debt because they think oh you know i can just charge it but really i mean if they don't have the money then they aren't going to have it in a month so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's true", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they uh make the mistake of pushing all their cards", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "there are times when it's when it's very useful like uh emergency trip", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "or something sometimes when you when you the the money will be available but it's you know not immediately handy i think uh they're very helpful plus the fact that it's helpful not to have to carry a lot of money sometimes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh i you really do need to be very um oh responsible about it or you end up in deep trouble", "role": "user" }, { "content": " yeah i made that mistake when i first got a job and that's kind of like it took me quite a while to pay them off", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so af[ter]- after that i decided well i'm not going to use them_1 at all and just try to pay cash for everything and that worked for a while and then we got married so we decided to you know if we used them we would pay them off as we go so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right right that can be very handy under those kind of circumstances the other thing about them is too if you really don't you really need to get some and use them because if you have never used them and developed and haven't developed a credit thing it stops you from doing a lot of things if you if you pay for everything by cash uh there is a lot of things that a lot of people who will not give you credit when you need something like a house or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right that's true yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a car so so they they have become a very vital part of our of our monetary [laughter] system over the last few years", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh it's true you have to be very careful or you end up uh going in the deep end and uh and an awful lot of people are in trouble", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we have a boy living with us who works for a credit card uh company that and he makes calls to people who have problems you know credit problems that are trying to work out of them_1 and uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] poor thing he comes home very depressed every [laughter-night]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] because the world has so many problems of that sort so it's uh it's uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's a really big problem i think and um takes mature people to to treat it uh so that it's so that it's a real advantage to you instead of a disadvantage", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right i think um the way the tax system was they encouraged people to use credit cards you know with a big write off at the end of the year", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but now it's like it's punch money because", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right it doesn't do you any good now does it right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you cannot right you cannot write off your interest", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "even before it probably wasn't though because you didn't get anywhere near as much as what it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you didn't get to claim anywhere near what you ended up paying so well i'm not that uh other than that i don't have too much on credit cards but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's good to talk to you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah you too thanks for calling bye", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh bye now", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "okay do you have you noticed any new um trends in politics", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well the one i think is interesting is the California Los Angeles police chief who says he wants to -[re]sign and did you hear yesterday that Mayor Bradley said that uh he should", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really no i didn't hear that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "think it i think what's interesting is that uh uh the political activists Jesse Jackson and a lot of other people went out there and are demonstrating i find it interesting that uh outsiders would bother to go in how do how do you feel about people like Jesse Jackson getting involved", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um i think sometimes it's good for people outside they get a different pers[pective]- uh perspective on an issue and stuff so yeah i don't see any problem with outsiders going in and getting a little bit involved i think though that it should still be uh sort of up to the majority in the area i don't know on something like that they wouldn't really vote on it or anything though", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] wha[t]- do you think Gates should resign", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "probably so just because they were under his authority and he obviously failed somewhere along the line", "role": "user" }, { "content": "w[ell]- w[ell]- speaking of that kind of issue have you kept up with John Wiley Price", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what do you think of him", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh um i think he's got good intentions but i'm not sure if the way he goes about what he does is really right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] he's an interesting person i was talking to someone who said that uh for all his obvious uh attention to efforts to get media attention that he actually is a worker on the uh i guess he's on the County uh oh Board of Supervisors or i think [vocalized-noise] and that that that uh at those meetings he really comes quite well prepared and is well informed and is a hard worker", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and is really quite agreeable uh uh and that the stuff we see in the you know in the media is uh well he's really just trying to make a political statement i i find that an interesting element of politics that we don't that that most people would not know that John Wiley Price apparently is a is a you know course he's got in this this deal over racism and uh you know name calling and all this but apparently he's a a worker uh you may disagree with him but i i i find this whole what do you think of this uh fourteen one and ten four one in Dallas", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i think that they should go ahead and go to the uh fourteen one i to me it's just fair you know and equal it seem like every area should have an equal voice", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i -[a]gree with you but did you see the map they drew up on uh on how they were gonna divide up the districts", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it was it was the strangest i'm i'm not sure it was gerrymandered but the way they drew these little patterns and stuff i i i guess i'm a little cynical of the of the power base i- i- i- and i don't quite understand why the power base uh doesn't uh why they don't go with fourteen one i- you know i- and you know the it seems to me that what happened in the in the election that a lot of the people they said particularly the the uh i think it's Hispanics don't vote because they don't think that they have any affect and it's i i guess i am disappointed with Dallas in that uh the fourteen one it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't know you can you can disagree with Al Lipscomb and uh what's what's the lady's name", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "Diane Ragsdale", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah you can disagree with uh what they're doing and what they're saying but in reality i think they're they're trying to represent their constituents", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": " and i think Dallas is doing itself a disservice i think they ought to get on with something important", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah they really make themselves look bad and i don't know why certain groups are fighting so hard to keep the ten four one", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and i but i think even i even those people are it's like Pauken and Box and these people i think it's i find it interesting that everybody's so busy politicking that the question is did we get anything good done it's like this whole school issue a[re]- are you involved in the schools at all public school", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no huh-uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "this whole thing down there where they're they're trying to um uh you know devote all our money and raise our taxes and better schools and and it all seems you know everybody's trying to one-upmanship on everybody else so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah i[t]-", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i i have got to run to a meeting it's good talking to you i don't think we've gone our our ten minutes but i think we've we've talked long enough so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay was okay good talking to you bye ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-okay] good night ", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": " so you have a child", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah we have a", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "two years old in child care right now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "two year old daughter in child care and we went through the process of searching for child care and uh finding what we consider to be real good child care at a uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "pretty reasonable price we think how about you do you have any children", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh yes our first and he just turned three months", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh boy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so we're just starting into hunting for child care right now both of us are students", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah are you where are you student", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh uh University of Southern Mississippi", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no kidding", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i was a professor in a university here in California for a while", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "she's yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh are you gonna uh put your son in child care in a a year or two", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh probably um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "actually spring semester a year from now he's gonna have to be in child care fo[r]- uh five days a week more than likely uh depending on how my class schedule runs because my wife will be doing her internship that semester it'll be forty hour week not no eight to five type of thing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh-huh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so depending on what my class schedule looks like he may spend four si[x]- anywhere from four to eight hours a day in child care by that point right now we're trying to avoid it but we just a matter of fact just yesterday hired a a girl to uh watch him uh i get out of class at certain time and my wife is already supposed to be on her way to her class y[ou]- know once a day this overlap happens where we can't one of us be home so for about_1 twenty min[utes]- twenty thirty minutes a day we got a babysitter comes in", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah well that's a good experience i think and uh there are a lot of things to think about and the articles that are written on the topic are pretty good and they kind of boil down to uh any other important decision you really have to explore the alternatives and what we found", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um to be the best guide was our own instincts about people who were gonna be loving and uh that's more important than anything else we could have sent uh her to a fancier", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " um-hum yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um facility um she goes to a home this is a um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "a couple uh emigrated from China early in in their lives they've been here probably thirty forty years they've got three daughters", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um and they have a loving home and uh they're both there and they have a kid that comes in and helps them_1 in the afternoon", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and our daughter is healthy happy well adjusted and enjoys going to see her friends so it's a good experience i th[ink]- if it's good i think it's very good for the child", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah uh that makes a big difference yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and if it's a loving environment i think it's very good and and that's really what we've learned about it she'll have to go on to something more stimulating in terms of a preschool in a year", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but um we feel real fortunate and we were able to uh just uh choose in the marketplace i don't know what it's like around uh Hattiesburg", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "there's a lot of child care available but invariably there's waiting lists", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and we were a little slow getting on the waiting list with the uh okay the university uh university's uh uh department of um uh w[ell]- their Home Ec[onomics]- Department", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i'll bet they're involved yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um they uh they have a subbranch uh American Family Counseling and their people staff this this uh the child care center just off campus but uh they have a pretty good size waiting list so uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well that's uh i know it's it's a real uh hard thing to do even for people in in uh university communities out here at Stanford they have a", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know a a a real good facility and there uh is is quite a waiting list to get into that so it's uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know it's a it's a it's an important decision it's an industry that's still a cottage industry and i think that it it really is buyer beware", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah w[ell]- it's best yeah a cottage industry's the best way to do it really because if you over", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well it is the best way to do it interestingly i think that um my own interest in in development human development leads me to believe that that's a good sign and that um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "private enterprise is the way to go and that it will lead to a fundamental change in the way we learn because i think what we're gonna go to is much more commercial entrepreneurial learning ventures in the market as a matter of fact my future is banked on that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh professionally because i believe that that there are uh pressing needs in the marketplace unmet by schools colleges universities for", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh learning a lot of things that kids can learn watching Sesame Street and in child care primary skills which turn out to be the most important skills in life", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes it's amazing how much good things like uh Sesame Street will do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's it's phenomenal it's phenomenal the the programming", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "is uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the human operating system is my are[a]-", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "well Pat what do you wear to work", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well it depends on the day [laughter] and what i feel like i don't have a", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "a real like strict dress code as far as you know suits and everything i can wear pretty much what i want as long as it's decent", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know i can wear blue jeans i can wear a dress i can dress up", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so it just depends on the mood i'm in and where i'm going you know if i got a customer coming in then i'll dress up If not you know hey", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah my my schedule yeah my schedule's pretty similar i um i teach so on the days i teach i teach a couple days a week so whenever i teach i try and wear a tie", "role": "user" }, { "content": "blue jeans uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh but that's i wear normally just wear like", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well that's all", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "khaki pants and a shirt and tie i never wear a sport coat that's ridiculous but then most of the time you know then i just have to uh i can wear jeans or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "or just casual clothes i think they i think they frown on shorts and sneakers but i think i could probably get away with jeans and sneakers uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh we can't even wear shorts", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i could well if i don't have to see students and uh i'm just in my lab and no one sees me then i'm probably okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh no shorts are no no go here you can't wear shorts you can't wear uh like halters and stuff like that and to me really you can't wear anything that's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh outside clothing you know like for the summer time and uh in the winter time i guess you can pretty much wear what you want as long as it's presentable that's what i consider", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right um-hum yeah well that makes sense uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know just don't get too outrageous here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah as long as you're clean and yeah that makes a lot of sense", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and not too dressy like you know after five stuff i've nev[er]- some of them get sort of touchy too so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] uh-huh yeah that's true", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh the women you see you have you can't wear halters or nothing like that i mean at all", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "like even if you got a jacket on you got to have a bra on and all that stuff", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "which no big deal [laughter] to me [laughter] so but as far as dress for dressing for work that i don't it doesn't bother me i'd prefer if we had a uniform", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i really would to save a lot of money if you had a uniform", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that would ma[tter]- that would", "role": "user" }, { "content": "because when i while i was in the service and see i had clothes that i could wear whenever i got ready but you had to wear that uniform to work and so you knew what you was going to wear wasn't no what am i going to wear today [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah and you don't have to worry about fashion and stuff too you know buying nicer clothes and things yeah hey that makes a lot of sense", "role": "user" }, { "content": "nope that's right i wouldn't mind having a uniform people think i'm crazy but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] well you know my mother's a waitress and she has like three uniforms that she sort of wears in rotation and she likes that you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh that's right yeah because it it doesn't mess up your clothes either", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah your your", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know because like at work if something gets on my clothes and ruins it it's just ruined", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum that's right where the the uniform a[s]- as a waitress now your uniform really it might be a little expensive when you first buy it but you know that's it doesn't it's made of polyester so it doesn't stain like cotton or wool would you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well see if you work at a fast food because i work at Wendy's sometime on the weekends", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they give you the uniform so it it's supplied so you know if it messes up hey it's their [vocalized-noise] uniform they messed it up [vocalized-noise] you only wear it you know to Wendy's so if you mess it up at Wendy's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah um-hum yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "there's no big deal", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well that makes sense yeah that makes a lot of sense", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but you know uh of course TI i'm sure if they ever went to uniforms they're not going to just give them to you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum [laughter] [laughter-that's] [laughter-something]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] but now some of the people around here do wear uniforms you know the the facility guys or maintenance crew and the truck drivers and all of them have have TI [vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah um-hum that's probably the people that probably the people that are prone towards getting dirty", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah the yeah that's what they are too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah with the type of job that you have you might be getting dirty either either manual label labor where you'll perspire heavily or uh or where you'll come in contact with uh oil and things", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah because they're always in the high space up you know working on stuff", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right um-hum yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and all i do is i sit at a desk and program but that's not going to get me dirty [laughter] so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's what yeah i find too um if you're a programmer do you get cold does your how's your air conditioning work", "role": "user" }, { "content": " well uh mine it works pretty good i have a sweater at work because_1 sometimes it gets chilly and everything you know but uh but the whole building's like that i'm not in a clean room or nothing so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh oh see yeah because_1 my office is really heavily air conditioned because i guess they they keep the air conditioning on all the time where they don't in a lot of the other offices because_1 of the computers and um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah well see i just have my the whole building is computerized okay and so it's all air conditioned but my my computer is like by my desk and then", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right um-hum yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you go to another cube and then somebody else's but uh the computer rooms now they're real cold and i don't have to work in one of those", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah see sometimes my air conditioning gets really cold i think it's probably because my office is one of the only ones air conditioned in a", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a large area you know probably probably that's why i get because sometimes boy i'll get i'll freeze it's so cold in there especially when it's ninety degrees outside", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh well then yeah it's jus[t]- no matter and seems like it kicks in extra hard", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right yeah and blows on my legs man one time i left i thought i was going to i thought i was going to freeze the one day i wore shorts to the office because i was just going to be in my lab and i wanted to be comfortable because i thought the air conditioning would be all turned off you know and jeez if it wasn't the air conditioner wasn't blowing it wasn't fifty five degrees yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum cold huh i think the reason why we can't wear shorts is because then the women and the men would be in competition", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's true a lot of those nice looking legs yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "see and then you guys couldn't work [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah i was just laughing it's funny that um we get clothing you know because uh i'm i'm in graduate school i only work part time and my wife", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh we recently we decided we'd buy a sewing machine because that would be a good investment you know and we could make clothes and save money so she's made me shorts", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well of course you know she makes shorts and she says here i made you shorts and they're uh they're a nice material nice checkered plaid material here but but she didn't put a fly in them [laughter] you know the pattern she bought didn't have a fly so it's like well they're fine for her but uh you know they're just everyday summer shorts you know but there's no fly [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah yeah [laughter-you] [laughter-kidding] me those are real good for men to wear so ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah they're not for a guy that really changes your the whole way you do your day [laughter] so i was laughing i thought that was funny you know because_1 i- w[ell]- i was i was up at the office and everybody says oh jeez those new shorts th[ey]- i think they were laughing because they are sort of a wild", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "color you know but i was just crossing through to get my mail and stuff", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum now my boss now he he golfs every weekend", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so he's got different outfits", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and he cracks me up with these color codes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the uh his aqua colors and i tell him see only people like you on the golf course wears them colors [laughter] that's the only place you could probably wear it you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] that's probably true without being laughed at uh-huh yeah i'm not i've never i [vocalized-noise] i laugh at the wardrobe my father-in-law wears golf clothes and it's the only time he puts on those funny clothes yeah he doesn't wear those in the back yard or casually around", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so yeah uh-huh now oh yeah yep no just when they go to play golf", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "just when they go to play golf they wear those funny clothes hat's true", "role": "user" }, { "content": "now i think IB[M]- now IBM has a strict dress code when i uh i went to apply for them before i came here and the[y]- men they used to have to they have to wear white shirts i don't care what their job is they have to wear a suit", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and see to me i think that's ridiculous because you're working with all that xerox machines and stuff like that all that black ink huh-uh no give me a break dude no i think them them people should be able to wear blue jeans", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know because that stuff gets really bad", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah but they have that dress code i- i you know i also know um EDS", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh EDS i have some friends that interviewed with EDS and uh you know they interviewed while they were in college so they didn't really have a suit with them and the woman said to them well your second interview would be", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they have a dress uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "here but [vocalized-noise] oh and on that day i would say wear a suit because i guess they just had on a sport coat and the one guy even had like um a gel in his hair you know his hair was sort of slicked back", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know which is popular with the kids and and she says oh and you know uh i wouldn't put the gel in my hair you know in other words you're to borrow a s[uit]- uh you know a two or three piece suit", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "with no gel in your hair you know and that would she made it pretty clear during the inter[view]- you know the the first interview how they were supposed to dress for the second interview you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah God", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i thought that was really funny too you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't think that should be your hair i mean yeah i guess so because some people do get wild with their hair", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know with these haircuts now [laughter] some of these haircuts boy i tell you i", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] [vocalized-noise] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't think my hair has probably changed in ten years", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's funny because my son is fifteen", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and he's into this fading crap you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "he he's into what", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] the fade like it looks like no hair uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh oh really [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] wait a minute and so he has hair though he can i can only let him fade it a little bit", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i tell him he's got to have hair all over or none one or the other you know you're not going to be going around with nine hundred ninety nine parts in your head and people's names carved in your head and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no no [laughter] huh-uh [laughter] and not going no where with me he's not", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah i see them i see the kids with the the things cutting their hair all the time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] i told him no no hum-um we can't have that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm not one of them liberated parents i guess i don't [laughter-know]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] well tha[t's]- you know my dad was the same way i thought it was really funny back in the nineteen seventies my brother came home with cowboy boots on while was growing up in Pittsburgh and my dad called my brother Tex for about the next four weeks", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know and other than calling him Tex he barely talked to him because he was so angry he was wearing cowboy boots [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well down here that's no big deal [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i thought it was just so funny you know my dad we're not in Texas", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] it was very funny you know and all that over a pair of cowboy boots and it was finally my mother convinced him she you know the cowboy boots give you about uh an inch lift you know they sort of have a heavier heel", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and she and we're all short the whole family's short so she said well Sam if he wears cowboys that gives him another inch and it just may be", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "okay i work with uh a lot of students and uh in my uh occupation talking to them about college and going to colleges i think uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the advice that i give to would give to uh parents i've had four so[ns]- five sons that have gone to c[ollege]- uh to uh college i think uh one of the main things is that they they choose a local college that uh or university that will go along with their goals as far as what degrees they want to go into and they if they're in the local area they don't have to pay out of state tuition and all of those things and uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah that's certainly helpful", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and go ahead", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] say your last suggestion there about staying within state i realize that there are a lot of schools unless uh uh the student has a real specialty and there oh maybe are one or two universities that are highly respected in that field they really ought to try to stay within their state i mean", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "financing in universities now is getting a very very high", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes it is", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they can't help themselves on that either so it certainly is an advantage to stay within your own state", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum uh that that's uh kind of the the advice that i give and then uh they need to take a look at the uh c[ourses]- uh the courses of study and uh how it would go into their their major minor field uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what kind of placement uh they have in the particular area you know i had one son who uh went to a smaller college uh to uh went out in the uh premed area", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but they had an excellent record of placing uh their students in medical schools after they finished the program and he was", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's very important", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " right he got early acceptance to a to medical school after he finished and uh if he would've gone to uh say the state uh it would be the University of Utah if he would've gone there uh i don't know whether he'd got accepted to medical school there or not", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well that was certainly uh good advice to get him to go to a school who follows up and has such a reputation that others are happy to get their students that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that means that the quality of what he was taught must be [vocalized-noise] very very high", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and that's good for him too regardless of where he works he has uh a top level of information that will last him the rest of his life basically", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum and you you can do this for any of the uh any uh university or or for any of the students that are planning uh take a look at uh their final goals at least hopefully they've got a goal of what area they want to go out in and then uh if it's law school or if it's uh medical or whatever there are different uh colleges and universities usually within the state that uh have a li[ttle]- little better placement record or or getting them into into those higher degree or higher areas of education", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum well we have that [vocalized-noise] same situation here i'm i'm a retired professor at Penn State", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i see uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh the field i worked in was acoustics and we have an acoustics department here and w[e]- have lots of students several hundred i guess in in acoustics and they have an excellent opportunity to follow through on their fields because our university is well known for it's research in addition to uh teaching obviously if we can do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum you bet", "role": "user" }, { "content": "high class research we must be well trained and and uh available to teach the students well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum and uh that would be s[chool]- a school that the parents uh should seek out for their uh students if they're interested in that that field and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and where it's well known uh the word gets out and that that might be a a case where even if it was out of state and they had to pay a little higher tuition then it would be well worth the the uh to to go to to Penn State", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes yes because_1 Penn Penn State is very well known in uh many of its uh ma[ny]- of its fields and uh we we get a lot we do we only we get our sort of say we get state uh students not only from out of state but from all over the world", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i mean they they they really come here we have a very high uh percentage of foreign students because Penn State is pretty well tops in many of its fields", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum you bet [vocalized-noise]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and we have doubled in size in the last fifteen twenty years i guess", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum well that's very important in in a choice of a college or university that they look at those aspects uh wherever they might be", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and if it's uh financially if they can do that that's that's great", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes that's true", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but th[ey]- they need to know about the the costs and uh how they're going to be able to pay for this whether they can get students loans or are their parents are able to help or whatever but uh uh the bottom line is uh the the college or university that's gonna give them the best training prepare them for life", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes and then the basic thing is that you started out earlier to say the the bottom line is to give your", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "okay well i can tell you pretty much my two favorite shows", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and they kind of are in different spectrums i think um one of them's Quantum Leap and the other one is Night Court and i think i think they're real different i mean i don't think they have anything in common uh Quantum Leap has i mean Quantum Leap is kind of", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a comedy in its own way i guess but uh mostly it's it's kind of science fiction and it's um adventure and things like that um and then Night Court is just pure you know weird fun you know just", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's it's nothing serious about it at all so i don't know why the two of them_1 happen to be my two favorite shows but they that's the way it is so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] it's funny that those are my two hu[sband's]- my husband's two favorite shows too and i enjoy both watching both of them but i used to didn't like Night Court", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i and the only reason i think i like it now is because_1 i've seen it so much now i'm involved with the characters but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i used to think um Dan Fielding was just too too vulgar and too crude for me [laughter] and and i told my husband that's the whole point but [laughter] i i just it's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "he is [laughter] yeah that's right i mean", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i find him degrading at times and i guess that is the point but sometimes it just", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well they they really have changed him though if if you've watched it this season um he's becoming i mean he still is in his own way degrading and everything but uh he's involved in that charity and uh it's taking up so much of his time and so much of his thought that he really has in fact there was one show that he even turned down a date with some you know beautiful woman just because the idea that he was his mind was on the ozone layer and you know global warming and all this other kind of stuff", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and he you know was too depressed you know to so that was part of i guess his character building or whatever but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum i i think it adds a probably adds a little bit of depth to his character i haven't watched um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "which of course he needed [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think uh yeah i think so [laughter] which in Quantum Leap you get even though the the person is involved in so many other people's lives you still see a a real person in those situations he gets um he's doing amazing things but he's doing them within the bounds of what of normal person would do and i think that's i like that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum right right that's that's good point so what do you what do you consider your favorite shows though", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i think my favorite show is Hunter and i i like the old ser[ies]- series better when um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay_1 Deedee", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Deedee was in there yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i agree", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and um so uh and then the the blonde that they took out the one that got killed", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i can't remember what her name is but uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i didn't enjoy her i i she was too much of a opposite of Deedee and i think that's what they try to do but i think we wanted to see Deedee there or somebody like her", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum well but see i read an article about uh in TV Guide about uh about Hunter and about his l[atest]- you know latest you know his three girls whatever you want to call them_1", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and they say that uh that there was abso[lutely]- that there was like a a conflict between her and him uh that they never really could get her into uh any character that they could use i mean you know uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the second lady uh-huh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah the second one the blonde uh you know if you think about it they didn't really interact hardly at all i mean they were never partners", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they didn't yeah she would go her way and he would do his and i think that's what i didn't like", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah a[nd]- uh and and even even at the beginning Deedee and and Hunter", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "would decide that one of them_1 would go do this while the other one would do would go this but uh it seemed like it was almost two different organizations", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know like like Hunter was the boss and and this other girl was not and you know you kind of you're wondering you know well when did this happen you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so yeah i i i kind of agree with that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i like the new lady better but i'd just as soon that they didn't have the romance there i'd just as soon have the the police story without all the romance", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i'm afraid that's what they they really wanted to do um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i think most shows were doing that and then they went away from it and now they're starting to go back to it and maybe that's what the public wants i don't know but i just", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i like the the cut and dry solve the mystery and that's what i always enjoyed about it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well see there was that spark between Deedee and Hunter for a while but they they like started it and then they'd pull it back and they'd start it and pull it back and that really made it a very interesting", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh show to where you never really knew which which one was going to show up you know whether it was going to where they're going to be real close or whether they're just going to be partners you know and that that i kind of thought was good but um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know it's i[t]- i guess you know you always kind of sit there and you see these two people together and you always wonder why they don't you know get together or whatever and so i guess that's what they decide to do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah just go ahead and quit the wondering and and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah but it's it's always been a formula uh for TV that the minute that two people that the two main stars get married that the show ends up w[ell]- you know dying", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a a good example of this and uh you know this is uh probab[ly]- well maybe it's not a good [laughter-example] i've been watching Nickelodeon all last week uh because they had uh what they called Maximum Smart they had Get Smart for uh ten hours a day from seven o'clock at night -[un]til six or -[un]til five o'clock the next morning", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "all the Get Smart episodes you could ever see well the the last day all they did was the last season to where the two of them_1 got married and that was i mean that was the killer the series died right after that because well go ahead", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah i didn't i was going to say i didn't ever watch Moonlighting but i heard that's what killed it that that uh interplay died when they got married and so the show died", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum the same thing yeah the i[t]- i[t]- it seems like you can do so much more of the subtle hints and the subtle little plays on things before they they before they get married you know the minute they get married everything's supposed to be cut and dried and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and well of course another one of their mistakes i think is they have a tendency to change characters or to change the character's uh uh personalities um um well especially after they get married um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "halfway through yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "couple of examples would be um well like i said this one about uh Max or Get Well Smart uh the female character uh Barbara Feldon", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "she had been at the beginning the the intelligent one the the one who ev[eryone]- always solved the things and and figured out and kept Max from getting real messed up well tow[ard]- whenever they got married she got dingy", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know why would they do that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it it made no sense", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i i'm guess it's go[ing]- falling back into our traditional stereotypes which a lot of shows", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah] unfortunately that's probably true", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah which kind of like in the big soap opera shows which i don't enjoy because of that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well do you watch um what is that show uh Who's the Boss it's uh that's on Tuesday nights i think", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i've seen it before but i don't watch it regularly usually Tuesday nights i'm out so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah the well i yeah i hardly ever watch it but uh as as i've seen it they've they've done sort of the same thing to where they've they started to let them_1 get together and then they pulled them_1 apart", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i think they're thinking about that exact thing about the idea that if the show lets them uh get together then you lose part of what the show's all about so i always thought that was kind of weird", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah it's funny how we uh we we romanticize people uh like w[ell]- for instance when i was a teenager you know you romance uh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "romanticize a rock star but when he gets married then you don't care anymore or something like that and i think it's the same with your characters on TV", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hum right well do you think that's why most rock stars nowadays keep their marriages a secret or at least they keep it quiet", "role": "user" }, { "content": "probably yeah i know it affected me when i was younger i'm not into rock stars too much lately but [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i mean yeah now like Madonna and Sean Penn now i don't particularly like either one of them_1 but um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh their marriage was so highly publicized that there was no way that they could stay together", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh or at least that's the way i look at it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i don't know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it would have been hard wouldn't it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah] i would think so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i i just the the publicity in and of itself much less the i mean when you get married you've got relationship to develop in the first place so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "having twenty million people watch you do that [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it's it wouldn't be easy", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so hum well that's kind of interesting", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so um well i gue[ss]- i guess that's about all we need to do isn't it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i think we've covered our time it's been good talking to you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah it has Becky i really appreciate it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] oh you're the first man i've talked to everybody else has been a female so this is a change", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i think i've um you're the second female i've talked to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you've had a little bit of variety huh [laughter] okay [laughter] well thanks so much bye-bye", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it's it's kind of nice [laughter] so uh-huh bye-bye", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "uh no i think that maybe the the automation people that are", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we're discrete well are not discrete uh electronic devices", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh and did he is he the one that got you connected with us", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um hum okay it's a lot of fun", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you want to punch the button and go", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "sure you ready", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yep", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well are you going to buy a car soon", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well it won't be too much longer because my husband and i are both going to re[tire]- retire and when we retire we're going to buy us a you know a new one and and get rid of the two that we have right now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and what are you going to buy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i do i don't know we're either gonna buy a pick up or we're gonna buy a van or we're gonna buy an economy car how do you like that [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well have you been listening to Iaccoca's arguments that uh that Chrysler products are the only ones that that all have airbags", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "does that make a difference to you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it sure does i really would like to have something like that and i'm hoping that by you know that's like right now my husband would like for me to buy another vehicle right now but i keep saying lets put it off lets put it off because i'm hoping they'll get so many better features", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah like what", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well just like that air bag i think that thing is fantastic cause i've seen some of the you know like the head on collision type things where they had it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and people walk away from it we had one here i guess it was about three weeks ago and the people walked away from the wreck with no scratches nothing you know a few bruises", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's nice did did you see the uh i don't know if it was 20/20 last Thursday or Friday night on on seat belts", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "did that scare you a little bit with the lady being thrown out", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh you got it i", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and run over", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i tell you what i would not i would not buy a car that had the seat belt where it was hooked under the door", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that really sc[ared]- i guess i that that a little more than scared me that irritated me uh that because it if if it it surely didn't come as a surprise that that if the door came open the lady would fall out i mean and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well you know what the average person would you ever have thought of that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um no probably well i'm not [vocalized-noise] the problem is i'm i'm really into cars and so it's not a uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean now i[t]- you probably would not", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um for me it's it's a real it's a real consideration um uh and and uh the but no i probably wouldn't have even though i'm really quite into cars it's it's probably my main hobby", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right because you always think i mean i don't know maybe you don't but just like me i always think well you know these things must be safe but that's just like i don't know if you've heard about it a few years ago they said you know before they had the like the shoulder strap thing where it was just like a seat belt that goes across your waist", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "all these people were a[nd]- and it was on one of those kind of shows like 20/20 these people were like paralyzed and because it threw them forward but they were hooked at the waist and so it like you know did something to their spinal cord", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "then they were like paraplegics", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah you know Road and Track had a had some articles on and particularly with with backseat uh with some where kids were were sitting in the backseat with seat belts on and they were thrown forward into the front seat and there was enough stretching the combination of stretching the spine to uh par[alyze]- i mean to serious injury even though they were they were still locked in the the forced to go so really if your sitting in the backseat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you're better off not to have your seatbelt on if it's just a seatbelt we have a van that uh just has seat belts in the back doesn't have a shoulder harness", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well tell me about your van do you like it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i have an Arrow Star van we really do uh it's it's a mini van we've had it goodness in May will be five years and uh they replace the engine at sixty thousand under extended warranty and the transmission was replaced but they really are nifty um the mini van it's actually we had a station wagon before and it's a foot or two shorter than a we had a regular size station wagon", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it really um we like it it the [vocalized-noise] interestingly enough one of the features we like are the electric locks", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh the reason that we're thinking about something like that we took a trip in my brother in law and sister in laws to Florida", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and like i said i mean we're not that old but my husband works for the state and after a certain amount of years you can retire and when he retires i'm retiring well as soon as i get my quarters in i'm retiring period that's it you know no more [laughter] and so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah well but the did you did you go to Florida in a van", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh and we wanted to travel well that was really nice traveling but you know i like to know more i mean hear about more people that have things like that you know and see what they think of them the different kinds because i've only ridden in the one that's it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah which what kind was it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh shoot i can't even think of the name of it now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what what was remarkable this van even with the we have two kids and we went to Disney World", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh actually i grew up in Alabama and i went to see my mother and then went on down to Disney World and it got better than i think twenty two twenty three miles a gallon and this was with the air conditioner on and and you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "four people with with luggage and uh course this grant it that's you know it's been four years ago but it's remarkable that the that the bigger vans uh they're uh my boss just bought a a pick up truck and uh he only gets seventeen miles a gallon", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but it it has a big engine and it it pulls a boat and stuff but it's and it it's got the seats that and the other thing that is interesting is it has uh rear air conditioning", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and that that makes a lot of difference in those of us that live in warm climates", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well now this one that we went in it did baby what kind of van was that that we went to Florida in a what a Ford Ford what you remember he was trying to think of what the name of it was", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well the big you know the big vans are all real nice", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "this was a big one i mean it was a big one it had the it had the front and the back and you know it has the uh backseat let down into a double i mean a queen size bed and then it had the two swivels in the middle and then", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah oh those are yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the two swivel chairs on the front", "role": "user" }, { "content": "all right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i mean it was fantastic and it got good gas mileage but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't know i don't really i don't i want something i can drive too you know and i was scared to drive that big van", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well well the mini the you'd be surprised if if you drive a one of the the mini vans uh fact there all more or less alike the the uh Chevrolet and uh well of course Oldsmobile has got one and Chryslers got one but they drive remarkably like cars", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well do you does yours have that this one had it where you know you would see something coming in the rear view mirror i mean not the rear those little side mirror things and it would look like it was further back than it was", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah but the little thing etched in it say objects are are closer than they appear or [laughter-something]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah does yours do that too oh i was wondering if all vans did that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well you you can you can uh install those mirrors we've got the big side mirrors which are really nice i don't know if you've well if you've driven a pick up truck you know these are these uh mirrors are must be six inches across not nearly a foot high ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they really nice uh i'm on both sides actually they they fold so when you get in tight situations you can fold them back", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well see that's the reason that we couldn't make really make them at first we were going to get a pick up truck with a camper on the back of it but then that gas mileage was just atrocious i mean it's unreal it's", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but there uh-huh um-hum uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you just practically don't get any", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well they have got some of the newer ones they you know with the aerodynamic features you can get pretty pretty decent gas mileage", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah and then uh he talked about a van and i said well you know i don't know i don't know how the gas is on most of these and another thing was that's the reason i said you know there was such a big difference you know in a little economy car but i said maybe we might have to get us an economy car to pull along", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "when we went somewhere but really and truly the safety features but i wouldn't get one that if it had the seat belts on the door now i wouldn't get it period", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah interesting enough Ford announced that i think in ninety two they're going to put uh air bags in their in their vans", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that would be good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so uh and i think i i believe safety i i i i really do believe in this stuff uh and i i think it's important [vocalized-noise] i'm not the air bags are a good deal but um surprisingly uh they're uh you really need to do you need a combination of both the air bags and the uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i think so too i don't think they should do away with the seat belts now i'm but i think you need the shoulder thing i think you need the thing around your waist but i think you need that bag to pop out too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and your seatbelt so yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know because i know so many people here that have been killed in head on collisions where maybe if they had they had that that air bag they may still be walking around", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh i think it's fantastic i wish they required it in everything every new car that came out i wish they would require it in it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it would be interesting to see what that'd do to our insurance rates you know if if uh if the insurance companies says it says we're not going to pay you know a claim if if the car doesn't have air bags would be interesting wouldn't it uh that wouldn't be fair but uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well no because what they would do is that's what they're going to plan on you know they would have to do it the insurance company would have to do the same thing they're given like a ten year time limit", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "where okay these cars i guess they figure all the old cars will be off the roads or something by the in ten years", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and then you know if you didn't have a car that had one in it then your insurance would go up enormously", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i've got to [laughter-go] my son's in a performance tonight i have to leave in a couple of minutes uh i think we've probably spent a reasonable amount of time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that's okay okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it was good talking to you okay good night", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well you you too all right bye bye", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": " my TV down okay i'm sorry", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh invasions of privacy um what most annoys me are all sorts of", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "phone calls trying to to sell me things", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a[ll]- all sorts of hours calling and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "especially_1 with it being that i want investment advice that i want this service or that service or the other thing", "role": "user" }, { "content": " yes and i hate those canned messages they put on my recorder", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um my sense is that something may just have been done about it by congress and no[t]- clear just what went into the even the final will i think it does something about the random dialers that just dial phone numbers", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i guess in some cases they just consider pickup your your phone and and and not let you use your phone for a while whether you hang up on them or not", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um but i thought i saw something about having some kind of provision that people could specify that their phones were not for commercial use and and uh and uh people businesses would be prohibited uh from calling for pur[poses]- for purposes of of selling you things i'm sure that's true", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i have through the phone company um no nine hundred numbers can be dialed [vocalized-noise] from my phone or received", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "ah [vocalized-noise] something i probably should do too i thin[k]- i think government can do that now is that right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh especially with with possibly children around um that could could be useful protection", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum right yes and i don't have children around but i just don't like those nine hundred numbers so i've excluded those", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": " but isn't it does not stop you from the uh dialing services", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i should do that what are dialing services", "role": "user" }, { "content": "where they uh intend to sell you things", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh oh where people just [vocalized-noise] just call you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum and leave again that canned message on the", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um yes [vocalized-noise] what another problem that has been eliminated those problems used to be when i used a credit card", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they'd want to have my phone number", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i did not like giving it ou[t]- or even give out my work number", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i think i'm not sure if it's by law or jus[t]- otherwise i think the practice has basically been eliminated of asking for a phone number", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well that's the thing i hated too about uh Radio Shack if you go in and buy anything they want your phone number", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "how did Radio Shack work", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i don't think they're gonna call me and ask me how it's functioning and and i don't give that out i have an unlisted number so i don't", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes that's that's that's one solution but you you you nonetheless often get get people calling you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "sir", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "despite the fact that your number is unlisted", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and you believe they actually have your number or are they just calling a number that happens to be yours", "role": "user" }, { "content": " well anything that you buy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um you ca[n]- you may get put on a a uh preferred list that is purchased", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and companies can purchase this list and what that is is people who buy from the mail", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah and they so whole list of addresses and list of phone numbers", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um i don't particularly mind the addresses um is there anything you can do about that like give out a phony phone number", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh not [laughter-not] really um no uh [vocalized-noise] that unfortunately is legal so they can't stop people from uh uh advertising and that and that's what it falls under it falls under the guise of advertising so i don't care for it but it is a legal uh uh solution for some companies so but that's the way things are", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah i- i don't know i think it's gotten much worse the last few years", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "maybe that's just because i've gotten on more lists", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well they you know that's that's the telephone is not the only invasion of privacy you've got the holy rollers and you've got uh all kinds of people knocking on your door", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yep", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um who want to uh either direct you to the right path or o[r]- or want to uh sell you uh paper routes uh whatever so um you know it's not just the ph[one]- telephone", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah sell you magazines uh-huh i guess for whatever reason i guess we just don't get [vocalized-noise]", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "[vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh well i mean i've had time to think about it because uh we've had uh i- i- there's been a great deal of difficulty in finding someone to talk to so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so um i i was thinking about a couple things uh and whether they are serious some things are serious and some aren't i guess the biggest thing that bothers me is", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "is uh not the biggest thing but one of the things that bothers me is the credit information", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh situation that you uh that you find yourself almost compromised into giving if you want any s[ort]- sort of credit e[xtensive]- extensive checks and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and things of that nature when um i i i mean i i don't know if that's an invasion of privacy simply i i do to i do feel it is but i don't know whether some of the questions they ask are legitimate", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh because they are the ones who are making the profit out of your [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well what's scary is uh about two three four months ago on a Sun[day]- in the Sunday edition of what is called the morning paper here The Dallas Morning News", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they showed a reporter and a um and a copy editor how they went out and they just took um a fellow in John Q Public in Dallas and all they had was let's see they had his birth[day]- they had something like his birth date the street address um they weren't even sure of the correct spelling of his last name excuse me and it was um very scary to see what they found out i mean they were able to find out what liens he still had against you know two or three houses through a two divorces children's names locations um it was really frightening", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i guess i guess then it's just the big brother concept of the fact that once you give your social security number there are people i guess who are who are", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh actually collecting all this all the time and and profiles are given i understand uh i read the other day that uh these telemarketeers when someone talks to you on the phone", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh all all they need now is your telephone number which i guess is involved in this controversy of whether they can reveal your telephone number or not i i i feel that is an invasion of privacy but it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right uh-huh i do too yeah i don't the other thing i don't like is um in terms of uh like we just moved here from uh Minneapolis and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "to get the the very nice townhouse that we're in you were required by the property management firm that was representing a private landlo[rd]- you know husband and wife owners um who had never done this before they um asked us for again an astounding amount of information and what we really didn't have the same opportunity you know and i guess that's when i also get upset that if you're going to do it then i want to do it too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah exactly", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um in terms of the credit yeah i know um we're also going through adoption now in for an adoption and i mean after we gave our fingerprints [vocalized-noise] to the FBI you you look at each other yeah you look at each other and you say ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah my God", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well [laughter] too late now um so i mean it's it's a matter of anybody can get it any way and how if they really try um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah i i have a particular subject that not everyone agrees with me uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh go ahead", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh well by by uh i make my living by uh flying airplanes for for a company and uh as a as a uh an airline pilot i have to take random drug testing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-hum uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean it seems to me the public outcry was for that at the time so i when i finish a a certain flight on a random basis i have to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh have a wri[tten]- a drug test and and and that's without i uh probably cause", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh a and in the end now i mean they've tested they've spent forty million dollars and they've found uh i think uh in pilots anyway of something like uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no it isn't [vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh eighty six thousand tests there's only been two guys have come up uh three guys have come up positive and one of them was a bad test so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "positive for anything see yeah see uh and i just started working well for an electronics firm down here i used to be a reporter and then now i'm in corporate communications and uh part of that excuse me was as a new hire that i had to take a drug test and i had never been asked that and i thought", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah drug test right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i really didn't like it um i- i have very mixed feelings about i don't disagree or agree with you um i think i- i think that it's well and you're in that field so i don't know but it's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know we lived in uh Minneapolis when the Northwest Airlines pilot in the Dakotas yeah that hit the fan like uh you uh you're obviously aware of that um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah right yes i am", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't know there should be some happy medium in terms of if they're going to do random um i i don't agree with random i guess i would look for a standard in consistency", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know in terms of maybe at set intervals so that everybody knows what's going on um i don't see a problem with that i do think i see some level of necessity um in something where people are transporting other people uh only because of the things you've heard about The problem is the reason i feel that way even to a low degree is because it's the old story the minority make it bad for the you know majority um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i i can understand the public's alarm to it but i guess having done this all my life i knew that there wasn't a problem and and it indeed it has proved out that way but now try to get the damn thing repealed you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i'm not alarmed yeah you can't yeah i know it's um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i guess i feel bad because uh not only that but in some of the instances like you just cited where you have to give your fingerprints i mean what what what happens if you say no If you say no then you're excluded and i doesn't seem the courts", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right it's a matter and that's um exactly what it is i mean that that kind of screening in general is a matter of exclusion um if we didn't give it we wouldn't go to Romania i mean if you hate to say that but that's the way it is", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's right it's my feeling also that that that although i i don't know if it's that serious i- but that was part of the question", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i do feel the courts have have held up a great deal of of our privacy i mean particularly look in in some of the in some of the", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh i notice in some of the sexual cases they've held up a great deal of privacy which i support of course but it i guess with our fear with crime and maybe airline crashes and things like that it does seem that we've", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we've slipped and that's eroded or at least those in the market place their everyday life seemed to take that as a signal that you know it's fair game to you you have to answer these questions of course", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh i don't know i i feel there has been an erosion and i don't really know how serious it is except i don't like it [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "in terms of the privacy yeah that in it and also i agree with that and in the in terms of the question um in terms uh i worked in medical public relations for almost a decade", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and that was pre AIDS and all the other um things that were probably there but just not excuse me labeled and i have a real problem with medical professionals um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it goes back to the things like drug screening but if it's in any level even with the potential to endangerment um and i think this is much stronger than you know pilots or uh train engineers being screened um the transmission of the AIDS virus", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um it it that's a real ethical problem i mean i don't i don't have the answer i i you know i mean i think of the young girl in Florida who well yeah that's was she from your part of the country or was she from the young girl that uh contracted AIDS through her dentist allegedly and then they proved it yeah i don't i don't know um [vocalized-noise] i don't know if it's the old story that we are killing ourselves in general or what um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "What was that oh yeah yeah yeah right well i mean it it just take that that step now where where now we feel there's a need to do that and the next thing you know then", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh there's always the need to to go and inspect lockers of high school students that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah the i guess the question is uh the the thing for me is who sets the parameters or who has the control you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] yeah i guess so i mean well uh uh good luck to you you just moved to Texas [laughter] from Minneapolis ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i i don't i don't hold out much hope for you i think they'll be a cultural shock i mean i was based there a lot uh several times in the service and i was absolutely flabbergasted at the in in at least in criminal law some of the some of the latitudes that the police had but ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh it's it's terr[ible]- i'm uh very seriously not more than just seriously i'm more than likely going to be going to law school in the fall and yeah if i figure out that's still what i really want to do and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "th[e]- the things i'm finding out are the in terms of things like privacy the way the law is interpreted presented", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um it's no better than [laughter-journalism] um except in journalism it's words um this is very frightening in that uh oh and in uh in Texas they they d[o]- they do not require for instance for prospective adoptive parents", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "whether it's domestic or international they're one of only five states that do not require a criminal investigation check yet if you're caught with let's just say um that somebody who's in n[eed]- not us but somebody who's need of carting um aluminum beer cans around they haven't touched them they haven't drank them they picked them up off the street and they want to take them to a recycling uh resource", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "for money or whatever um they've they've been going through a lot of bad publicity here in the last three or four months again um because they've been arresting people like that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i mean i don't understand if you if you don't if they don't make a criminal check why do you have to be fingerprinted", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know because um in our case one is at the state and the other one is at the federal level because you have to dea[l]- because you have to deal with the IN yeah because you have to deal with the uh imm[igration]- immigration service", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i see oh the state doesn't require it well that's kind of that's rather that's rather unusual isn't it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it is it's uh the whole thing is i mean there's again there's no consistency you know like in your in terms of you being a pilot and being tested randomly um i can't see why after a certain number of years or after a certain time frame they can't do it at an interval or you know i mean there just this ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i guess i guess the extension of that is why why not [vocalized-noise] the next thing you know we'll just stop a random amount of motorists and then if we really think that drugs are a problem we can randomly stop anybody on the street ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they they do that in Texas", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh they do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter-they] don't do it for drugs what they do is they check to see if you've got uh current insurance or they check to to see if you're permits are", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well there's there's all sorts of scare tactics i guess to to invade our privacy and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i know and it's kind of um what's the word i want i don't it's ju[st]- to me it's just frightening you know i mean the old uh i'm old enough now where George Orwell uh way past the time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i just going to say nineteen eighty four is come and is come and gone but it's here", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah yeah it's exactly true i mean i", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and the computers of course helps that The computer abilities store that information", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well look at what we're talking now i mean it's look how we're talking now i mean you wonder ultimately what a network of stranger you [laughter-know] ", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": " um what sort of camping do you like to do the most", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh well i i do uh real rough type camping i have a motor [laughter-home]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-huh] rough type huh [laughter-okay]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter-yeah] uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah motor homes can be a lot of fun", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah they really are they really are i've i've enjoyed it i've never actually done any uh like tent camping but uh one of these days i'm gonna try that too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah uh that can be a lot of fun too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah like to go to vi[sit]- to the national parks and state parks and and uh just get out and see nature", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "how about you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well so far my wife and i have pretty much had to stick with tent camping", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "this summer we went to uh the Smokey Mountain National Park", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh how great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh stayed about three or four days in there it was wonderful nights were cool enough to where they're comfortable and the the days were nice and warm and it was beautiful beautiful few days", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah um uh-huh that's great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it worked out particularly well especially considering she was what six months pregnant", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " i don't know it worked pretty well it was one of those uh those dome type pop up tents", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "nice and quick and easy to put up and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "packs away nice and small yeah about_1 had to be something like that getting around in a Pinto", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well that's true that's true", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it was a lot of fun", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i guess the last real uh camping trip i took was has been a couple years ago", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i went to California and up to the Sequoias", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "ah that's got to be beautiful territory", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it's gorgeous i love the big trees just just the drive up through um up the coast line and then cut over in into the into the parks it's gorgeous though", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah what like Sequoia National Park yeah uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum yeah i had been there before when i lived in California that's my first trip back in oh goodness hm hm thirty years [laughter-maybe] [laughter] but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": " that is God's country it has to be", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yep", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "do they still have the uh the scenic uh roadways that cut through the center of some of those trees", "role": "user" }, { "content": " uh n[o]- no they don't that and the last one um an[d]- well the first time i was there the the tree was still standing but it has since come down", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah but they are huge if you've never seen them it's it's very awe inspiring", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no so far New Orleans is far west as i've gotten", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well New Orleans and uh Minneapolis", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum well there's lots of pretty country further west", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah we're hoping one of these days soon after we're out of school to head that way", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah yeah and needed need to take the little one", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "show them_1 all the all the pretties before they go away", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah they seem to be trailing out quickly", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah because of th[ere]- there's lots to see there's of course the the Grand Canyon and uh the Painted Desert is is real pretty in a in a different sort of way ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and course the the Sequoias and the Redwoods and and you get up into Bryce Canyon and Yellowstone and uh the Grand Tetons are gorgeous too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i imagine", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah course i'm i guess i'm partial to big tree country", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i would imagine they are yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't know why i got stuck down here in Texas [laughter] i think it's called a job i don't know [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] uh not a whole lot of forestry down there is there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-no] not around here not around here hm", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh the place is forested with c[oncrete]- with those concrete trees", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum lot lot of concrete and glass you [laughter-know] hm", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well i guess that's God's place too anyway", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um what do you figure has been the longest trip you've taken camping", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh probably the the last one that i went to California i took uh three weeks", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "three weeks", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i was actually yeah on the road a little more than three weeks", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah the whole family in with in on this", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum everybody [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yep", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that would have to be a blast", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it really was it was great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what well you went out from Texas up in into that area", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah we went uh we took the southern route and went went through uh uh the Grand Canyon again and we stopped at uh um Las Vegas for a couple of nights and then uh went into Malibu in California over on the coast and then went up the the Big Sur Highway all the way up to San Francisco", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh couldn't even cut across through the wine country and went down to the to uh Sequoia National Park", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay oh wow okay Big Sur Highway that's uh well you're pretty much in view of the ocean almost all the time aren't you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah uh-huh you really are", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "okay well have you bought anything recently and uh if so do you find it to your liking do you think it's worth the money", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i bought i haven't returned it but i bought a i went down to San Marcos to the Coach Store and bought a Coach handbag", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i've had it now for two months and i have owned Coach products before that's why i love them so much and uh i am going to have to take this back to have it repaired after two months i am so peeved", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really yeah i can imagine", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i i think it's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because they're not cheap", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no they're not not even at twenty five percent off so um i just uh and i've owned many before i'm just really not a bit happy with it i don't know if they've gotten too big or too popular or or what but you expect when you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i know that in going out and and looking at clothes uh even going to expensive stores", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the clothes look to me so sleazy any more i don't know whether it's the type of materials they're using", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-yes]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "is it you know is it supposed to be you know crepe or what and or if it's a case now i've seen Dillard's in an area", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and they hadn't even they'd hung the clothes out but they hadn't even pressed them_1 so they didn't look good to begin with and uh you know and they looked cheap and they were you know they weren't cheap they were hundred and thirty nine hundred hundred and fifty", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i saw that um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know you don't buy find cheap dresses any more even at Penny's [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "especially at Penney's they've upgraded [laughter-considerably]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-exactly]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh the only thing that i know that we have uh uh televisions", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we have have gotten real good televisions we have had real good luck with televisions and i just wanna i think that their i think their quality is better", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but to see you can buy you could you could you pay the same price for a new television as you do for a new suit a man's suit [laughter-you] [laughter-know] [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well that's true that's true that's true you do [laughter-you] [laughter-you] can buy a portable cheaper than you can buy a man's [laughter-suit]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] oh y[ou]- exactly i was uh i ha[d]- i bought something the other day and i thought well i've been wanting this new whatever and i di[d]- this this is my new bra[nd]- i know what it was i was wanting this new television and this is this is my new TV and it was like three pairs of shoes and a [laughter-you] [laughter-know]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i've gone to the outlet to buy the shoes so so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] i know well i know that uh our son for Christmas we usually for Christmas we will give him a suit and we try to you know stay around two hundred and something on them_1 we you can't find a suit any more for two hundred and something", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum huh even even at uh the Men's Warehouse and things like that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum you know i could you know for what some of the suits cost they had just moved into a new house i could buy them_1 a a small new refrigerator [laughter-almost] as cheap as what the [laughter-suits] [laughter-are]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "exactly", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and that's utterly ridiculous clothing has just gotten totally out of sight and i hate to spend you know a hundred and fifty dollars for a dress that's made in Taiwan", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that the you have to pay five dollars to have cleaned every two times you wear it or something and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes yes yes very definitely so uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i just", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know i i other than the TV's uh TV's i i do think here are made pretty good uh but i don't think cars are made that well any more", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hum i am real happy with my car", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "now what is it what car do you a Ford", "role": "user" }, { "content": "a Ford yeah i i think everything's it's oh four and a half years old and everything works on it and nothing's fallen off or broken i know friends with Chryslers that haven't had that luck and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that's good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Toyotas that haven't had that luck and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh no i think i think you're right the electronics seem to be of decent quality", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum i don't know whether competition is so stiff between Japan and and the US or i don't know what it is but you know the electronics seem to be you know pretty good value for their money", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and going down in price too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes yes definitely because i know the price of the big screen TV's you know they're going down you know compared to what they were three years ago", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh and i bought a little camera about six years ago that i just thought was the the bee's knees or whatever it just i mean just wonderful and now i can get it for fifty dollars less the same model and for the same price i can get one that does a lot more", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] same model um-hum um-hum the only thing i'm not seeing goi[ng]- go down that much is the camcorders the video tape re[corders]- things", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh well not a lot no", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh uh they've gone down a little bit we just bought one we kept thinking they would get much cheaper you know like somewhere around five or six hundred dollars but they're still right up there around nine eight or nine hundred dollars", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know which kind of surprised me because the how long have they been out now almost ten years", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah my brother has an old one", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know uh-huh and uh so uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they've gotten smaller though and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's true and maybe that's what it is maybe they're just coming you know they're constantly working on them_1 and so therefore they keep changing and they don't have any reason yet to", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "okay you don't have any children", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no we were never blessed with children um we had a foster child for a while and we're real active", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "in church with some of the young people", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i hear i heard one of [laughter-yours]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yes yes we have four [laughter] and they range in ages from eight until the youngest is eight months so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so you have a considerable range of of interests and activities and so forth", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right we do and when they were speaking about some of the activities that you like to participate in as a family one of our very favorite is reading we love to r[ead]- read with our children and to them and and so far they've been they've grown up with a love for reading too and we're very glad about that ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's terrific you know that's not i've i've observed that that's not done enough these year these days", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "when we had our foster son he was um uh two and a half to three and a half that that year in there and we read every night because we just felt like that was important to spend time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " oh uh-huh oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "with him there's so little time one-on-one time these days with mechanical or or the electronic uh games and and TV and so forth to draw folks away", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "boy i'll say right boy i'll say that's right my with our well wh[ere]- with all of them_1 we start right from the time they were born and and spent time reading with them_1 and and they s[eem]- they enjoy it the kids will get the books and bring to us and say you know let's read a book", "role": "user" }, { "content": "did they have them memorized and and know if you're skipping a [laughter-page] [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] uh yeah they do they do did you experience that too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes it it on nights when it was already really late and i'd try to short circuit it it was no no no [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] uh-huh [laughter] and they catch on pretty quick [laughter] you mentioned TV watching watching too much TV and i i feel that's a real big problem also i i think that there's just too much of that it's used too much as a babysitter and and", "role": "user" }, { "content": " i totally agree", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "people just plop the kids down in front of it and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "now there are some wonderful programs for children and when i had our foster son i was babysitting i had", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's right um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "four under the age of three [laughter-and] we ended up using television couple times a day when Sesame Street was on", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh wow uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "to entertain them but also to do some learning things and then we re-enforced that then with with some of the things that we were involved in if i was in the kitchen and and so forth the little girl wanted to emulate everything [laughter-i] [laughter-did]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right oh oh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so and we talked about the letters and numbers and so fourth so we used it as a tool", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but not i won't say i was perfect it wasn't ever used as a babysitter while i was busy with one of the others but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that's right that's right and then i can't [laughter-say] say that either but th[en]- like you say there's some good shows on it and there's some good videos also that you can rent that are", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know real helpful and um we also like to play with our kids i one of one of our other favorite things to do is to have pillow fights with them_1 [laughter] and they really enjoy that they laugh and you know it's winter here and it's hard to get outside and do a lot of", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "lot of outdoor physical type things and so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i hadn't thought about that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah so we we do pillow fights and um course just play with them_1 play games and um when you were growing up did you spend time did your family camp or or what other activities [vocalized-noise]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we did we went camping and then Richard and i did that all through our our twenty years together too so it was something that carried over from both our backgrounds and i[nto]- into our current life", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh uh-huh oh that's great", "role": "user" }, { "content": "your your pillow fights reminded me though that when when i was growing up um uh we we spent four years in Utah and then we went from there to Germany and and it was even further north", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh oh boy i'll bet", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh daddy used to roughhouse in the winter time with us we'd get on the floor and just you know p[lay]- pl[ay]- play tickle games and and and hug and cuddle and that was important to do that bonding and i never thought of that till you mentioned the pillow fights", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh [laughter] uh-huh oh it is oh ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but we'd get everybody involved in that well it was just my brother and i and we thoroughly enjoyed that that time spent with daddy that we didn't get to see him very much at all", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh boy i'll say i'll say you do and and i think like you say the bonding and the physical you know loving and touching that's that's very important i feel like so um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "do you have outside the home activities that that you do with the the family", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes we do we well like i say we the little community we live in it's winter a lot of [laughter-time] [laughter] so we go sleigh riding and the kids love that they love there's", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah] [laughter] oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "several hills close by that we that are kind of designated sleigh riding hills and and we take the tu[bes]- you know the tubes and toboggans and and go and do that in the winter and in the summer um oh bike riding and we go well we've we've each got a bike with the little one we haven't done it this last summer as much because she's just so so tiny that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we didn't get a chance but um we've got the swings and had a trampoline", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "all right now we used to be big time campers but now we're not quite so much since the kids are involved so much in sports", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh what type of camping did you do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well when we before we had kids we was in a motorcycle group you know w[e]- we went like twenty or thirty at a time we took uh just our little tents", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and we did it that way then when we started having children we bought a camper you know and we did it that way", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh uh-huh oh how neat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so we've always enjoyed camping", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh well i know i have um i just have a tent and the kids and i like to go out and camp in the tent and then i bought a van and that way i can sleep in the van and be more comfortable [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh ye[s]- yes now we have friends with a van and when they go on vacation a lot of times they'll just sleep in the van you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "like one night and the next night they'll stay at the motel you know or something like that and they enjoy it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh-huh yes i don't i don't think i'm a real true trooper you know when it comes to camping all the bugs and stuff [laughter] but i i try", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah oh me either [laughter] i hate to be on [laughter-any] [laughter-that] [laughter-stuff] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] but but i try you know to uh to get out there and enjoy everything but what was so fun though is that i had to take my son to the doctor this morning because he went out camping with some friends and he got poison ivy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it's all over him the poor thing you know so there's definitely hazards to going camping if you don't know what you're looking at [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh shoot", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh but now i enjoy it every once in a while i mean it's not something i'd want to do real often i'm a sissy i either want to do it in the fall or spring you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah right right definitely when it's cool well have you done much camping around Texas", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes well not really because usually it's when we go off you know like for a couple weeks or so it's usually like that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh yeah well have you camped all over the United States", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "just about [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wow see now i haven't so that i bet you that's an experience there", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "just about oh it really is it really is also i said we mostly did ours before we started a family", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh right right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's a lot easier then", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i know my parents like to camp a lot and they uh they've been going to Gulf Shores Alabama", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh which is really really neat they said they've got the white beaches and the sand and it's not real populated so they can they feel like they're in the outdoors and still close to the ocean and uh from what i understand from them it's really really pretty there", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes uh-huh oh i'd like to go anywhere you know i just like to go [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i really do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well have you done much camping up in Kentucky and and those parts in the mountains", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no not really not that much um we've been well we've been to Wyoming you know and Kentucky and Montana and you know places like that but usually if we're with a group of people we really don't stay any one place very long", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know like if we're just going through and they camp one night and then head on", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but now that we have children and we go every blue moon i'd rather just go to Galveston [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] oh yeah yeah yeah rent a beach house or something yeah that's that's my idea of camping", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know [laughter] yes yes yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but we're uh we're getting more into it and we've done uh we've done quite a bit and uh uh the kids like to go out you know as often as they can um so that's good you know they're they're becoming enthusiasts then of camping", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh it is my children really enjoys it they really do but by the time we really get a chance to it's July you know and it's so hot", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and our camper doe[s]- doesn't have an air conditioner", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it's one of those pop-ups i'm sure you could put one in probably but we hadn't did that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh yeah well that's really neat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes we all enjoy camping and they're you know they're in like R As and scouts and stuff like that you know so they get to go camping in those organizations also", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "at least their daddy goes with them i don't when they do that but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah oh that's neat that's really neat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that really is well how old is your boys your children", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i well i have um a son that's uh going to be eleven here pretty soon and then a daughter that's thirteen", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so they're they're getting old enough to where they can help out with a campfire and cooking and and all that kind of stuff too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yes yeah yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and that's that's really neat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it really is mine's eleven and eight", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so they really enjoy it too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah yeah i i agree with you they like to get out there and but this wasn't so fun this last time for Nathan to to get out there and he didn't realize he was touching poison ivy and it got all into his eye and it was really swollen and uh so they had to give him shots and everything so oh well maybe next time he'll stay away from those particular", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yes yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "trees or what bushes whatever they are [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh but i have uh brother-in-law and a sister you know that just really just camp you know they love to go camping they could they would all the time they wanted you know wanted to because there's nothing holding them back but i'm just not that involved in it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh no now i like to go out like several times a year but not on a on the regular basis i have some friends who go out every single weekend when you know in the season uh and and i just couldn't do that you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah oh uh-huh me i haven't really as far as entertainment i don't know what you would do if", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know but i guess my entertainment's television i [laughter-guess]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "just getting away yeah right right see i see they just want to get away", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but every Friday night they'll go home you know straight from work and they'll pack up and you know and then they'll leave and i'm just going you know by Friday night i just want to crash you know and i want to go home and you know do all that and then uh get out on the road to boot so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i don't either [laughter] uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but anyway that's their life [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes but they probably live in a city also don't they", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah that's true", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well see we're in a real small county area and you know that makes a big difference", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh now that's true that's true", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because if we want to go camping we can just go just a few miles you know [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] that's true", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that makes a difference", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well it was nice talking with you okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it was nice talking to you too and we'll probably be talking to you again okay okay bye-bye", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay well take care bye-bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "okay do you have any children", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no i don't [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] you don't", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "do you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes i have a one a five year old daughter", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh did you ever have her in child care", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes i do she was um at a private well i stayed off work with her for little over f[or]- of a year when she was born and then i", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "had her at a private sitter for i guess two two and a half years after that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and how did you choose that sitter", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um she was referred to me by a couple of people and she turned out to be wonderful i couldn't have asked for anything better i don't think", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i didn't want to s[end]- send her straight to a day care", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and even though she was that old i still didn't want her to go to a day care", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and this lady you would think it was her own", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah she's real good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's hard to find people like that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes it is and um now i have got her in a Montessori school", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and she's really really doing good and learning a lot and actually i've started working up there in the afternoons too so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well that's neat", "role": "user" }, { "content": "y[eah]- well yeah i guess i'm going to quit as soon as school the school season's over but uh i really enjoyed being with her up there i hate it for her she has to stay that much longer but um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah do they have classes for them during the summer too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah they they go f[ull]- uh year-round uh teach them now in the summer they have like a lot of field trips", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "there's a field trip just about every day if they want to go on one and stuff like that it's a lot more lax but but they still go through all their uh curriculum as usual", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what kind of questions did you ask about that private sitter before you took her over there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um gosh [laughter] i ca[n]- my husband and i both went we kind of give her the third [laughter-degree] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh good [laughter] i'm glad to hear that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well we went over to her house so we told her you know pri[or]- well we didn't tell her we just told here we'd be over that day we didn't tell her when so that way i didn't think y[ou]- you know the house would be y[ou]- you know cleaned or anything for me specifically", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and um she had a daughter and i want to say her daughter was like six or seven right around first second grade and um at the time she kept anoth[er]- one other child um about a f[our]- four year old i believe but it was only like a part-time basis so we went over there and we questioned her about what she fed them and um what she did with them during the day and um you know just how she treated them how how her daughter was with the children when her daughter got home from school and stuff like that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh we really seem to be pleased with her and um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "did you did you introduce your daughter to her before you made your decision", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes oh yes and she still loves her to death i mean when they see each other you know they just love each other to dea[th]- and she literally spent", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "almost the entire amount that i paid her on my daughter either making her clothes or buying her things", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really yeah [laughter-oh] my", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so we're real real lucky but aft[er]- uh so she stayed with her about roughly two years and she um she had to go back to work they had some other expenses that came up so she had to go i guess get a real [laughter-job]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah get a real job full time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah so uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so what made you decide to put her in a Montessori school", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i checked a lot of places out you know the kinder cares and the stuff like that and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i live in Garland and there's this Montessori school that's nearby", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and um it had been recommended by some friends of ours but uh it it's an older place and so i uh checked out all the new places that were near us and then i checked that place out and uh even though it was older it was it was real comfortable and i guess kind of homey", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they didn't just play all day long you know like i noticed a lot of these other schools that i went <b_aside> may I have some JELL-O <e_aside> yeah and interviewed on or interviewed at um they did a lot of play work and stuff and then they almost all of them_1 had a Montessori section and i thought well gosh that must be pretty good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know if everybody's trying to incorporate a little bit of it into into their school and they made sure they pointed it out you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but after i looked at this place and i took Randi with me uh i think just about to every place one place i think i didn't take her and i just kind of let her go see see what she felt like doing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and that place boy if somebody came and she liked them_1 and she went outside with them_1 and it's hard to drag her [laughter-away] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i felt more comfortable at that place", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's the true test", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and she was real comfortable and she has really really done good i- i", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's hard to tell how much has been that or how much is just her", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but she seems to me to be you know pretty quick and smart and she's already reading and writing and stuff like that and she just turned five last month", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's good huh that is good then", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so yeah i think so i mean i didn't want to rush school at her the whole time but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no especially when going to spend the next eighteen years in [laughter-school] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] exactly exact[ly]- i wanted to quit my job so i could stay home with her the next five months because i know she's going to have to face [laughter-that] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter] yeah r[eally]- really [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and oh my God here we go you know i just hate that but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's right", "role": "user" }, { "content": " anyway so you don't have any children do you have any l[ittle]- nieces or [laughter-nephews] then ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah i have a nephew he's a little brat [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "he goes to a really crummy day school uh my sister's not real bright so but he he's always sick i mean he has always got some kind of cold or something and i don't know i don't think this place is a very good place for him", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh really oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's just kind of convenient and she's the kind that goes for convenience over anything else", "role": "user" }, { "content": " oh really just easy to get them_1 there and stu[ff]- ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah exactly", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well that's a shame", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i don't think she checks things out very well", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh really that's scary", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "which really surprises me it is scary yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i wa[s]- i was petrified", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because_1 i know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i would be too [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i mean that's a i don't know that's just it and that's why i don't mind paying more", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i don't know i just feel m[ore]- [vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "too many horror stories out there that you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes and that's one reason i like working up there a little bit is because i know what's really going on", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah that's right i think that's an ideal situation", "role": "user" }, { "content": "because you don't know uh because like at her school um as soon as you drive up it's got like a circular type drive they sit and they have car callers and and some kid goes out and gets the kid and it's time to go", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well at first that always kind of bothered me i mean not bothered me but i thought well you know i'd like to see what she's doing you know [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but now that i'm there i mean it's it's a lot more convenient because_1 there's so many kids that dawdle", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you [laughter-know] when their parents come and it's hard to get them out and a lot of parents have places to go and and things like that and it's late at night so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] that's right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know now it doesn't bother me at all but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] is that on where the over there off of like i'm not sure what the street is is it off of near Country Club and um yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah sixty six that one that's set back in the woods yeah that's it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah okay i- i've seen the signs but i've never actually seen the place itself you know it's pretty set far back off the road", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah right right it won['t]- and that's something i like too because", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah definitely", "role": "user" }, { "content": "a lot of those places are like you know the one over here on seventy eight Skaggs that little Kinder Care whatever it is", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know it's right there on which this is on a highway too but it's set back enough to", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right yeah there's a difference", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm scared i would be scared to death my child might accidentally get out or or if that seems like a real accessible place to where you could you know go in and get one", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh ye[ah]- yep that's right or you know in a a car accident", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and that was one of the places i had checked out", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it was it it was brand new when i checked it out and of course it was beautiful and clean and smelled wonderful in there but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know i that i didn't base everything on that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no because_1 that all wears off [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right that's exactly right you get some kids in there and it's over quick", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yep", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i've been real pleased knock on wood i'm scared to death her going to public school", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't know i w[ell]- i do know why because_1", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i would be too yeah yep yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know dr[ugs]- drugs and everything else and they talk about how soon they start that and that scares me", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know it is scary", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i mean you're just with them_1", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "do they teach them_1 in school right now where she's at about drugs", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah they've um they've had police officers come in", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and talk to them about it but of course they still have no concept of", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-what] [laughter-in] [laughter-the] [laughter-world] [laughter-drugs] [laughter-are] you know but ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah and what to do when they're faced with it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right but i just think of her you know next year she's going to be five six years old in kindergarten in same school with you know uh i guess ten year olds isn't that six sixth sixth grade you know and that's a big gap", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it is", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and that's uh that i can honestly see the peer pressure there", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and that just", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i can see it too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "terrifies me to death and stuff those kids getting snatched and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm i'm probably a little too over [laughter-protective] but ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "nothing wrong with that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well nowadays you have to be", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yes you do i don't i don't think there's anything wrong with that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "if so i at first thought you know when i didn't have kids i was going God how can you be so protective [laughter-you] [laughter-know] [laughter-but] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's easy now [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh now you understand [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah definitely", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's what i'm thinking what your mom and dad always used to say when you have kids of your own you'll [laughter-understand] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] that's exactly right and i do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but anyway well are you ever are you [vocalized-noise] are you are you married [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "are y'all planning on having kids or", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah we'd like to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well that's good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's good they're really neat it's just", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "{alrighty} ladies first", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] oh no well i don't find a lot of time to watch TV and a lot of the time i find it during the day when i'm rocking my little girl to sleep so i watch a lot of reruns old shows", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "like Dick Van Dyke and all those old crazy shows", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "Barney Fife i guess yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] i really enjoy watching Andy Griffith", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well some[thing]- we[ll]- so are you a homemaker i guess that's the the right term nowadays", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [vocalized-noise] yeah i guess so yeah i am i stay home with two kids and ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah we[ll]- my wife we have a new one in the house and she's she's stays home too also", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um i guess i have a wide variety i like watching the TV for things that are interesting not so much the the bor[ing]- the uh the things that aren't for example like the Cosby Show to me is just kind of like a waste of my time and and Different Strokes and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i like Sixty Minutes Prime Time Live um course i have to watch cartoons on Saturday morning but not the Ninja Turtle ones i like the old-timey ones Tom and Jerry", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh [laughter] yeah you sound like my husband he really likes Tom and Jerry and uh Bugs Bunny and all his friends and all those guys ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "there you go -[tha]t's right Johnny Quest you know the good ones um now i'll if i'm ever home during the during the day on a vacation day i'd i have to catch at twelve o'clock the Andy Griffith Show because_1 he's just you know he's one of my idles and then uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i don't know it just seems like that nowadays everything's so electronic you know an[d]- magnified and and animated that you can grab from the old style movies and old style shows a little bit more insight to family groupings an[d]- and so uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh now i do w[ith]- the Cosby Show i have seen it a couple of times a[nd]- and i do i i like the show i just don't watch it because of the timing but uh some of the crap that's on TV nowadays and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's bad i do watch the special shows that they come out with th[e]- the Nova stuff and and the nature shows", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but um i think there's enough out there to pick from i'm not we don't have cable to the point of of of the HBO or any of that stuff and but uh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well i find myself watching just a whole lot of whatever is geared for children because with two kids and you know i don't want them watching something that i don't think they should watch i i used to be really hooked on All My [laughter-Children] and i watched that for like", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum sure oh me", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh ten or fifteen straight years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh no", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and then i had well you know i'd eat like at lunch at work we'd have a TV or whatever and then um as my kids got older and started you know recognizing what was going on [laughter-and] [laughter-i] thought this isn't really very good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] ouch fifteen years bet they hated that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i gave it up yeah i had watched it i had watched it since it started so it was kind of but now i'd you know i -[d]idn't know who the characters are and um i'll turn it on every once in awhile don't recognize anybody so i guess that's a good [laughter-sign]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh goodness yeah really i'll watch oh i- i used to watch uh i can recall though this might age me uh date me here i can remember staying home when i was five and six and my mother watching The Edge of Night", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh yeah well see you're probably about_1 the same age as me because_1 my mom watched The Secret Storm and The Edge of Night um-hum uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] Secret Storm though i think they were back to back on black and white okay i mean i'm just a youngster and i was like oh my gosh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah we used to my mother watched all that stuff too and A[s]- As the World Turns i think As the World Turns may s[till]- i don't know if it's still on or not it was s[till]- not too long ago", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well you know still be on yeah yeah now they got a lot other crap involved and s[o]- i don't know you're right i think some of the tones uh of the the the daily prime time is is questionable that could be uh ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i have to agree with you you know keep them_1 on that channel eleven channel twenty one the nature stuff you know [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah right yeah yeah we do and it's real interesting too the difference in my kids like um my oldest loved Sesame Street and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "those kinds of shows my my younger one doesn't she's more into Walt Disney kind you know we watch a lot of movies that we've got on VC[R]- you know on tapes and stuff she's more into the animated stuff where my other daughter liked puppets and that kind of thing so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum hm uh yeah well", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh we do a lot of kid watching [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well sound like you got your hand fulls there and i do appreciate speaking with you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "sure it was fun", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "have you gotten your catalog yet", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no i don't think so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i just spoke to the gentlem[an]- i just got mine the mail and i inspired me to make more phone calls", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh well see i haven't really i've had a few people call me but i've never made one so yeah i need to get brave [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really check out your pen number [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah yeah that's what i need to do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "have a good day bye-bye", "role": "user" }, { "content": "thanks good bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "okay have you ever", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "your family have reunions on any regular basis", "role": "user" }, { "content": "probably once every five years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "once every five years", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah um you have a pretty big family", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and the hardest part about getting the fam[ily]- the stuff together is everyone's spread out all over Timbuktu", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah we've got a pretty big family but most of us l[ive]- well i'm we[ll]- i'm originally from West Virginia", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "most of the family is right in the West Virginia a[rea]- uh what they call the Tristate area uh northern West Virginia Eastern Ohio and S[outhwestern]- Southwestern Pennsylvania", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "most everybody is right in that area", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that makes it a lot easier a lot more convenient that's why we only do it once every five or ten years [laughter-because] [laughter-it's] [laughter-like] that hard to get everyone together", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah they put one together for our family about once every June it was on my grandmother's birthday but she's she's gone now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah see that's kind of what happened with ours that's why we hadn't had one in a long time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so so to make one successful wh[at]- i mean what do y'all do do y'all just start planning real far ahead of time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh shoot pardon", "role": "user" }, { "content": "d[o]- y[ou]- um do y'all start planning real far ahead of time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well no there's kind of a set pattern to it there's uh so the day it happens is ninety eight percent of the planning usually", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah oh the we get together at the the uh the park uh the uh park and playground area of the church i was raised in", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh everybody brings lots of food and we'll put up a volleyball net just sit around and tell stories and catch up and play volleyball all day and get really fat [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] eat a lot see it's a lot harder for us because we're like i say we're spread out so they have to plan anywhere from six well really probably a year ahead of time so everyone can s[ay]- um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh goodness yeah scheduled vacation time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "their their vacation time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah we usually just Sat[urday]- Sat[urday]- uh Sunday afternoon", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "or may[be]- sometimes it's been like on Saturday afternoon usually it's like Sunday afternoon and most people don't have more than you know a couple hours drive tops to get there and back", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah now is that where you're i mean is", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well where i'm calling from is southern Mississippi so we got a w[ays]- uh uh my wife and i have a bit [laughter-longer] ways to go than most", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but y'all still manage to make them_1", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh actually we've only made one of them_1 since we got married about four years ago one of the family reunions but we're both in school so it makes it kind of tough", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [vocalized-noise] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they usually they been happening um just after the summer semester starts", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you can't really get away", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so usually not we managed to get to one that was before i started to school and she took that summer off but uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well now that we've been talking about it i'm -[g]onna i'm kind of getting home sick now [laughter] because_1 it's been over three years since i've been home", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh [laughter] ye[ah]- oh goodness", "role": "user" }, { "content": "to see my grandparents or well my my grandfather's the only one that's still around", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and see my grandmother was the one that used to plan the stuff basically", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so unless the aunts and uncles really get on the ball and put stuff together it's kind of like she was like the glue so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i understand where is home for you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "originally um i was born in Missouri", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so and you know we have relatives scattered out all over Louisiana Mississippi um here in Texas so it's harder for everyone to get in get home", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah -[w]ell maybe this year you can find a more central location", "role": "user" }, { "content": "n[ow]- well but see the majority of them are in like just like how you said in close close quarters so it's easier for us few stragglers to go home", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay okay the majority of them_1 are still in the Missouri area", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay yeah our family right now or most th[ere's]- th[ere's]- there's only l[ike]- few stragglers uh if any with any distance -[y]eah some of u[s]- -[th]ere's one cousin uh in Colorado and uh some cousins over in Phoenix uh i got a sister over in in uh Washington state", "role": "user" }, { "content": " we[ll]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh rest of them_1 are within you know a couple hours drive", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we[ll]- um how do y'all communicate like to plan it and everything do y'all just call each other up on the phone and say this is the weekend we're gonna do it or do y'all like mail out stuff", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's pretty much it yeah okay it's gonna be such and such a weekend and uh y'all come [laughter] that's about it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean you know this is the standard pattern is the everybody brings their their favorite dish and somebody brings the volleyball net somebody brings a whole lot of ice for the watermelon and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we[ll]- um [vocalized-noise] i guess probably the last one i went to i met so many people that i hadn't seen in probably ten over ten years it was like don't you remember me and i'm like no", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "am i related to you yeah i married your cousin's brother's uncle uh something like that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i know [laughter] do you i mean is that since y[ou]- i mean do you have them_1 every year", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh yeah they're every year and and still you wind up meeting people y[ou]- y[ou]- you never knew you were related to let alone", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we[ll]- see it's probably not that yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we[ll]- i think that's probably why our's always so interesting is because we don't have them_1 that often and then when we do ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and everyone does finally get together it's like after the you know the just like", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "down right amazing isn't it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "okay do you vote regular", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i do i try and vote in every single election [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "every one", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh [laughter] that's just since in the past say about six years before that i really didn't pay any attention at all", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well see that's me i've never paid any attention to voting", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh you haven't", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hum-um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i didn't use to but now i really because_1 i get so angry about what goes on and then i feel like i can't really complain too much unless [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "unless you have something to do with it [laughter] right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah but the problem is that i am very liberal politically and so i hardly ever have anybody that wins that i [laughter-vote] [laughter-for]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh liberal by what do you mean by liberal um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "liberal politically i'm you know like pretty left wing Demo[crat]- Democrat so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well see i don't know anything about politics", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh you don't", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh what's the main what's the main difference between Republicans and Democrats", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay well [laughter] there's a lot of them_1 um -[de]pends on what issue you're talking about but Democrats are on a lot of issues are more liberal than Republicans and well it used to be it's kind of hard to say now especially after Desert Storm but um i think back in the eigh[ties]- times when uh my political opinions were being formed like in Viet[nam]- during the Vietnam war and stuff", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the Republicans were more you know what they called Hawks which is more like aggressive in war and more pro-war and pro-aggression and um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the Democrats were the doves they were more for peace and i'm not sure how much that holds true anymore i think you know the issues are", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay and you vote for the Democrats or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah and Democrats usually are su[pportive]- more supportive of public assistance programs and and programs to", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "usually okay uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um th[e]- the big Republican thing is that they don't they vote for less government they want less government involvement in society and so they're more less apt to vote in you know more aid to people or more", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "m[ore]- uh they're less apt to vote in programs that involve the government running things", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so so have you ever voted at all", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay no i never have", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you haven't", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hum-um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "how old are you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] i'm twenty six [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] oh gosh [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know i sh[ould]- i", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i don't know mu[ch]- that much about it i don't keep up on it and i don't feel like i ha[ve]-", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "have enough knowledge on it to even you know to pick the right person", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yep yeah well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so that's what they need well", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it uh they said something to improve voting", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "if they could make it more oh easier to find out you know what's going on do you know what i mean", "role": "user" }, { "content": " yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "like uh like to me i don't i didn't know what would have been wrong with i can't even remember who ran for president against Bush i think it was uh that woman wasn't it a woman", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Du[kakis]- no it was Dukakis", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "Dukakis", "role": "user" }, { "content": "from Massachusetts", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay didn't he have a woman or wasn't or was that Reagan there was a woman that was running for vice president for a while Ferraro", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah that was yeah Ferraro that was a while ago that was a couple elections ago yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-okay]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] that's okay [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] well well that's what i mean like i didn't know what the difference between Dukakis and Bush was", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know i didn't know anything about Bush or Dukakis", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so what do you think about uh what do you think about what you see on TV about them_1 like in the news or on the ads do you kind of just", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay i don't remember anything about Dukakis", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you don't", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but well they're all saying that they're going to do you know whatever is best for their campaign anyway", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's what i mean if they had some kind of public programs where you can just go out and i don't know like you know in school they didn't teach you about Demo[crats]- uh the government not really", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum right you didn't get any government classes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hum-um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it's really hard too because before they used to have um a lot of it seems like the stuff that they put out now it i mean i doesn't just seem like it i know for a fact that the any kind of stuff that if you wrote and asked for material well what do you believe in what do you believe in they don't take any stands on anything they kind of say well what do you want me to believe [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "or they word it so that it's really hard to tell where they're standing on certain issues", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i'm not sure they're yeah i know how they do it it like i[t]- with the abortion issues and stuff", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum yeah they have to kind of take a stand on some things like abortion and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "things like that so that's kind of how i judge there's a few things where they have to say yes or no like abortion or gun control or let me see i try to look at", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what if some of the newspaper articles or the i don't trust TV as much but newspaper articles can show wheth[er]- how they voted in the past", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and but you get you know it all depends again on whose writing it and who they're for because they can slant that too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right and like i said most of the poli[ticians]- the politicians i'm the also the politicians put out what makes them_1 look good anyway", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and everybody's got you know stuff they don't want known", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right everybody's got a secret [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] well anyway i'm sorry i didn't i didn't have", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "much knowledge i don't even remember this being on there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well that's okay do you think do you think um i mean what would it take like that this is really good actually tha[t]- for to talk to somebody who hasn't voted i mean what kind of how would it how what kind of stuff would they would you like them to do so that that you would know more about it like send stuff in the mail or have it at the library or", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "incentive you i guess that would be good now i'm sure they've got it at the library", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean if i get to the library i've got two babies so i don't", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh do you yeah that'll tie you down a little bit [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah but i i don't know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "or do you just not do you feel like it's not really going to make that much difference if you don't vote or", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i know if enough people think like that it you know would make a difference if people stopped thinking like that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um well a lot of people they'll vote the way their family votes you know if since you're what Democrat", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh um-hum yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "th[en]- then like your kids or whatever will follow you and just vote Democrat right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum well [laughter] not in my [laughter-family] we're kind of [laughter] really independent", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean no all split [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but a lot of families do that i know a lot of wives feel like they have to vote the way that their husbands vote", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and that kind of keeps from getting a lot of issues resolved [laughter] golly", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i lie hm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't know if i did understand politics i probably would vote more but like i said if i voted for Bush or like when uh Gary", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum Hart", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "Hart was running", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a lot of women would have voted for him just because he was nicer looking not that i think he was good looking but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "he was young", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and then i didn't think that was right because he may have been a good president or whatever", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but because it was he had an affair ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it just threw him out of the whole running", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and a lot of people go by their uh personal life when they vote", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and which i guess if you got turmoil in your personal life you're going to let it come into work but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'm sure there's a lot of people that have had", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think everybody does it just depends on how well you can hide it [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know and i that's very true i i think that doesn't really have that much to do with um unless they've done something really horrible you know or something real abnormal", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well criminal or something like that's different but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah right but otherwise", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "if him and his wife weren't getting along i mean", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what is what effect does that have on him running for president do you know what i mean", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's all so secretive see we really don't see the", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "true person anyway", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think that's that's having a big effect on how poorly that the country's being run is that um the the election the people that want to get elected are turning it into a popularity contest by advertising the things that you know that really don't have anything to do with how well they do the job but see they're trying to find an excuse not to deal with what", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know the issues that people really want to know about because on those issues you have to say yes or no and if they don't say yes or no then maybe somebody'll vote for them_1 that wouldn't have if they had come down on the wrong side do you know what i'm saying so they just try and make it a personal thing i mean if you remember", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "any of the TV commercials from the last presidential campaign they all had uh pictures of Bush with his grandchildren walking around with his grandchildren and even from Reagan it was all just like looks like a McDonald's commercial you know [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh [laughter] well what did you think of Reagan as a president", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] that's [laughter-about] what it looked like i just thought he was really inept i don't think he did anything at all he they just kind of sat him up there like a puppet and the people that were", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "do you think he won from Carter because of the um the hostages that were held at that time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i think that was part of it i think there's a lot of the the economic problems that the country was having at the time and the the recession and stuff people just had a picture of Carter as not being real capable", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but he actually all right [laughter-this] i thought he was great [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i thought Carter was good too and that was yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "did you i always liked him i thought he was great at the time and i i just couldn't get over the fact that Reagan beat him i you know that i just couldn't believe that he got voted out", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i think i wasn't well let's see that's been about ten years ago right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay so i was only fifteen or sixteen but i remember Carter and i liked him yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah you did have you heard stuff about him lately do you know what he's doing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no i sure don't", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well he is just he is really active still politically he's been overseas you remember when he was in office he did a lot of stuff for the Middle Ea[st]- for pe[ople]-", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": " you feel about uh drug testing in the work place", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well actually i'm all for it even though um for instance like in the area that i work for you know there's no danger you know of someone getting hurt because of you know being on drugs or something but uh uh i think because of ethics involved and uh things i'm just i'm in favor of it i- i realize that that's putting a lot of government control in effect or or control over people but uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think we need something in place to uh to solve the problems i certainly uh feel that it ought to be done in public safety situations you know airline pilots and flight controllers and people who run trains and buses and taxi cabs", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh definitely well it's just like uh i can't remember now where it was what two three months ago there was that there was that bad train wreck and uh one of the um engineers running the train was on drugs you know and people were killed in it and and yeah when it comes to safety and people being killed i definitely think it should be a requirement you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you're uh you know to heck with their rights you know they're interfering with people's rights to live", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know if they're in that type of position and have that much control over people", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " one of the issues that came up for me personally was that uh we see i've gotten involved in uh foster care", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i've seen a lot of uh kids come into foster care as a result of their parents being on drugs", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh there's probably a lot out there that could probably stand public assistance or being rescued uh which aren't identified and so uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": " um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "testing at the work place in uh in in general i think is probably a good idea to to save some of the kids", "role": "user" }, { "content": "feeling like that if you know then you can look into a situation and in case there are children involved", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah i can i can understand that i- i think it is you know i think it's so sad these these crack babies that are now coming into you know grade school elementary school you know that are so um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh you know they're so messed up themselves and you know in talking to teachers i have several uh friends that are teachers they uh um you know they're hard to control they're hard to deal with and yeah i think that would be a good idea", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "being i'm a contract person with Texas Instruments and before i could even go to work here i had to be drug tested you know and they do a random drug testing of their employees", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": " uh but so f[ar]- far um they don't require everyone to do it they just go through randomly and pick someone and you know and go do it and TI has an excellent um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "assistance program if you're f[ound]- you know found with drugs they actually give you i think um three tries", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know to to quit it or get off of it or or whatever before you're you know dismissed i mean they work with you and they they have a program uh uh that you can go to that the company picks up the tab for and also it's really an excellent program i kn[ow]- it seems like the older ones here are in favor of it the younger ones you know course are still they're either you know doing some marijuana [laughter] or something or they're very idealistic you know and uh i don't know i think sometimes the older that you get i think the more ramifications you can see of so many things", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well our company uh testing when you're hired is a requirement", "role": "user" }, { "content": "is it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i think they have a policy of uh random testing but uh i don't know whether they've ever done it or not i kind of wish they would", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um and we do have an employee assistance program that's uh good for uh drug abuse uh treatments and other psychological uh problems", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] stress in the work place marital problems whatever's [laughter-bothering] [laughter-you]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah this this program you know encompasses everything but you know i thought you know it's not an instant dismissal if you are found to be taking drugs which i think you know is good and it's good on T[I]- TI's part as i said i think they give you three chances you know to come to grips with it before you're dismissed", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what you know a lot of times i see problems here at work though uh i remember a few years back i had a uh schematic drawing that needed to be done and i was in a hurry to get it out", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i sent these drawing the rough draft over to drafting and i usually do a pretty decent drawing myself", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "when the drawing came back uh it w[as]- was apparent that it had been done by two people because the line work", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "okay in order to make the uh curried chicken i just fried the chicken", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "until it was nice and brown you know make sure it's nice and brown on both sides and then you take it out of the fat and you you let the chicken that you fried kind of drain so that a lot of the oil comes out of it ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and then you you uh pour most of the all of the oil out of the pan and you kind of clean it out and you put back maybe two tablespoons full of the oil and saute some um bell peppers and onions in in that little bit of oil maybe one tablespoon or two tablespoons let that brown then put all of the chicken back in there and then you uh mix flour and a cup of water maybe uh one tablespoon of flour and a cup of water stir it real real well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "then you uh pour that in there you know to make the gravy and you let it come to a boil again and then you let it simmer and you add uh about_1 a tablespoon of what i'm using now is Jamaican curry powder ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and that's going to it's going to be really good [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's very spicy too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean these bell peppers and curry", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right and then if you like it really hot you can add some hot hot peppers and hot sauce and all that kind of stuff", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that sounds really good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh i guess it was is this dinner time for you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh well it will be in a little while i'm trying to get it get it ready early", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "all done in advance [vocalized-noise] that's um i uh i'm i'm not that great a cook but i was single until i was thirty so i did cook a little ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know uh and i cook a little bit now [vocalized-noise] what i like to do mostly is stir fries and my wife normally says you know oh Tom why why don't you make a stir fry tonight ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so we even we just were recently married so we have a stir fry pan sort of like a big wok", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and we do a lot of um stir fry vegetables", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what kind of wok do you have is it is it a real Chinese wok or ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's it's called a stir fry pan and it and it fits right on your uh si[t]- it fits right on your burner whether it's gas or electric so it's it has a flatter bottom than a normal wok does", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh i see", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and um normally what happ[en]- what we do is um just you know like two tablespoons of oil maybe sesame oil or some other type of oil than just regular oi[l]- vegetable oil but i will use peanut peanut oil or things and then we just stir fry broccoli and carrots and um green peppers and um maybe put in a little bit of um garlic and ginger uh beforehand that gives uh uh uh spicier flavor and then after the stir fry is over just mix in um a little bit of uh sometimes chicken broth and corn starch and soy sauce and that sort of makes a uh a glaze", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that sticks to the the vegetables i've used you turn them over a lot of times when we do stir fry we just put in tofu we don't put in meat", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh i", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "cause i guess we're i'm not but uh she likes to watch all the how much red meat and things so we'll do a lot of times vegetarian", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but it's a real good meal because you have squash and broccoli and uh carrots and celery and green peppers and um oh gee mushrooms", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh that's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's it's a pretty big and we put that over rice", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that sounds real good except the squash i just don't like squash i never [laughter-did] [laughter] my mother used to cook a whole pan full of squash and she'd have squash and corn bread [laughter] and maybe some she'd have chicken or something ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh you don't [laughter] oh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i'd just be", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah see we never in fact i never had squash growing up my my wife eats more vegetables ate more vegetable than i did growing up i'm i'm from Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh is a very meat and potato town", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah recipes in Pittsburgh consisted of red meat and a potato", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "red meat and a potato", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh that sounds good we we were from North Carolina and we had a garden and my mother would would uh grow the squash and she'd grow white potatoes and onions and a cabbage and collards and all kinds of ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh she had all of those types of vegetables", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "see never no vegetables in my family", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wow", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it was really funny", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you wouldn't believe it we even raised chickens [laughter] you ever seen anybody kill a chicken", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] well that was a real farm no but i i've i've uh i've heard stories ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no [laughter] [laughter] and they put the head under a tin tub and chop the head off [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and then you hear the chicken jumping around under the [laughter-tub] and finally it dies [laughter-down] get just a little patter and then it ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh this is terr[ible]- uh you shouldn't be talking about this right before you're while you're fixing dinner ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] getting ready to eat chicken [laughter-too] [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's right you should be careful [laughter] that's pretty funny but my dad used to tell stories you know about the way they eat chickens but i never we never we lived in the suburbs we we bought everything in a grocery store", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "there was no but it was funny you know it so but when we got married you know a lot more vegetables a lot more you know a lot of changes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well that's good a lot of people are eating healthier now a days", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think so too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but we just went shopping and we came back with uh with um sweets you know chocolate covered peanuts ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "ugh [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we came back with sweets we didn't bring all the healthy food back too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i'm trying to learn how to cook um deserts without without all of the sweets you know maybe use honey or something", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh well that's that's supposed to be um the trend of the future", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh the cut back i uh recently was over a friends house that's Indian and uh she had brought Indian sweets into the office and it was really funny because they were made from yogurt and carrots", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that was a sweet and i was like ugh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "this is a sweet oh it is it's a candy i'm like ugh you know Indian candy is not very good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but everything was and everything you didn't notice it at first but everything was sort of hot everything had a little bit of curry in every ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the spice yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it was funny even the sweets did", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wow", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "when you first took a bite of them you didn't notice it but then after a couple of minutes you could taste it you know it had that that after taste that very it was a very Indian flavor", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "good they didn't have i didn't like her desserts very well", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they were very yogurt and carrots and pin pistachios pistachio nuts and yogurt", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it wasn't very good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i might have liked some of that i i like hot stuff", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i really do [vocalized-noise] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well have we done our ten minutes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh is it ten minutes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "something like that i think we're", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't know do we get a signal", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no nor[mally]- normally they just come in and they say you've overextended your", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "your conversation", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well this is my first one ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay well that's you'll see it will normally it will come on and it'll say you've over extended your conversation you now have fifteen minutes to compl[ete]- fifteen seconds to complete it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so oh wow", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh i've been cut off twice", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i just thought in fact [vocalized-noise] just also i'm hearing a siren outside i think my my neighbors car must have got bumped you know he has one of those alarms on his car ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "goodness", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "one of the the neighbor has an alarm on a car and it's going off", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i was going to go out and see what they were doing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay hey thanks so much", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah thank you it was nice talking with you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh and you said this was your fi[rst]- well you'll you'll get a couple more probably", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i uh if i called yesterday i or Friday maybe i talked to somebody that uh i got them on uh during the day it was a housewife and she was home with two kids", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and while we're talking the kids are screaming in the background you know that they wanted something and they were arguing back and forth and she just kept talking the whole time it was pretty funny", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] kind of hard that way ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hey thanks a lot i'll talk to you later", "role": "user" }, { "content": "all right thank you bye-bye", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "bye", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "okay Pat can you tell me uh wha[t]- actually they want what everyday occurrences are", "role": "user" }, { "content": "define everyday occurrences", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right or do you have", "role": "user" }, { "content": "every time you use a credit card every time you log in to a computer terminal particularly where you have access to a ne[twork]- to a network", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "anybody can with the right kind of skill and tools get very much involved in those things which are on your system that you don't particularly want exposed that's why we have such security measures for our corporate information ye[ah]- if you absolutely", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's a point um actually um uh using credit cards the information that the person that you give it to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "has of uh available to them is very limited that's to just your name i guess um you don't have to tell where you live you don't have to put your phone number down some people uh ask you for it but you're not required to give that information", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right when was the last time that you used a credit card that they didn't ask for your driver's license as well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh very very few up here yeah yeah they just don't they don't ask for a driver's license um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really um well most of our checks are even printed with our address our so[cial]- even our driver's license numbers are printed on there", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah see my", "role": "user" }, { "content": "because they require that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah my checks are it's just my wife", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and my name no address", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so it's just names on the check so no one can you know i mean they can i suppose with a little leg work if they wanted to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but the average person's not going to do that anyhow", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right but we're talking about people who are interested in invading your privacy people who have a reason to do that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "people who are interested in building data bases of information about your financial background your educational background", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh one of the biggest fraud scams that i've heard of recently is people who have access to such information and they find out who's a widow and what she's worth and then they present themselves to her as a uh a rich suitor", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay that's yeah i", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and bilk her out of anything that she has those a[re]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i've read articles about that but people have to be pretty gullible um either that or or especially widows um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum um-hum there are very vulnerable people though older people are very vulnerable to such things and they tend to to", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "old people right and and some people some of the older people today uh their husband's handled all the finances so now they find themselves left out in the cold and they're really really not savvy as far as it comes to fi[nances]- to handling their own personal affairs ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum uh well on the other hand how can you be savvy with so much out there today there are so many clever scams and and many of them_1 are computer based and they're based on information that's available", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "in the public realm", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'm i'm still not convinced that they can get you if you're if you're aware first of all you never should give your your uh credit card numbers over the phone to anyone", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum that's right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "which is which is kind of basic", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um they people may generate lists are if you subscribe to a magazine i guess they sell lists of names to other people but they'll send you junk mail usually", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum that's right um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um and you can stop that easy enough just go to the post office and just have your name taken off", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum did you have you registered for a conference recently", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh yes i have", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay did they ask for your fax number", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no they did not", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay i registered my people for several conferences in the past six months and they'll ask for your telephone number and they'll also ask for a fax number you would think on the surface that that is for rapidly sending you confirmation of your registration or your hotel or something like that not at all those fax phone number lists are being sold in exactly the same way your street address numbers are sold and you now get solicitations brought over your fax", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and you don't expect it from that source therefore you're not as uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah but that's uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know you're not as leery", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "isn't doesn't corporate have a didn't they put a stop on that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh some some cases but tha[t]- it it exists is what i'm saying those avenues exist", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah right yes they do exist and if someone wants to really find out about you i suppose if they wanted to go to all that trouble they could", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i heard a story not long ago this guy saw a really attractive young woman and he said hey i'd like to know this girl more so he wrote down her license plate number and he called a friend in motor vehicles and got her address and her telephone number and then he called a friend that he had in the credit bureau and he got her financial standing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay from that he also got her social security number and certain social security information is uh a matter of is it is accessible if you know somebody in the government so before it was over with he knew that she was divorced she had two children what school they went to what her average income was he knew that she'd gotten a boat in the divorce because he was able to get those public records", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he knew all about her", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah you could do that if you really wanted to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and he intro[duced]- yeah he introduced himself to her he said i think our kids went to school together at such and such school sh[e]- i don't really remember that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i mean you know he was relying on her not remembering or", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "or not being willing to admit that she didn't remember him and just moved right in on her", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah that's and you can do that anyone can do anything that's public record whether it's divorce or anything like that um whether you purchase a home that's all that's all public record", "role": "user" }, { "content": "sure um-hum um-hum um-hum that's right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um what they do with that information people are really um go out and do it i suppose somebody does the leg work and they and they generate a list ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um uh it's uh i think lists are generated from lists now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum that's true i'm still getting lists from many many years ago", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "or getting junk mail from a list that had to have been made years ago", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah we had uh we've got a an account at Sears Roebuck", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and we had moved from one town to another town and they've got our address listed now with with double towns in it and i've tried and tried and tried to get it off but you just can't get it so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "since then we've gotten solicitations from other people listing both towns so i know damn well that Sears has sold their list of names out to somebody else", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum of course", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but there isn't anything you can do about that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no you can't stop them_1 from selling your lists although some of them_1 really are honorable organizations and they will say if you prefer us not to put your name on a mailing list then we will not", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right some of the some of the charities now will will do that if you chose choose not to have you[r]- your name", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "put on a list and i- i do that you know we have our charities that we give to and then we say yes no just don't", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because you do it and then you're on everybody's charity list", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum and you have to really do some research or you do not find out who is legitimate and who is not and sometimes finding out who is legitimate and who is not is more difficult than finding out public information about people", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's right that's exactly right uh most of the funds that a lot of these organizations collect", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "go to fund the organization i mean very very", "role": "user" }, { "content": "absolutely", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "little of the funds get out to do uh anything worthwhile", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um it all started with the government the government started keeping tabs on you and whether they", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "those list that Internal Revenue has whether they leak out to the public or not i'm really not sure maybe in some cases they have in the past uh once a list is out it's out forever", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah you bet you bet and with computer technology now look how spooky it is for how accessible these things are", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah but the bulk of it probably ninety seven to ninety eight percent of all those lists are going just for solicitations um some people maybe are using them for ulterior motives i'm not really sure", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but the bulk of them_1 is and it's junk mail and you can you can you can get off those junk mail lists you just tell the post office", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so that will limit that amount of stuff", "role": "user" }, { "content": "sure", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i read uh i read and article where this this man uh se[nt]- sent to everything they could possibly get and he was getting reams and reams of paper all kinds of periodicals and magazines and letters and notifications and what he was doing with them he was storing them up and he was using them for fuel", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum way to go neat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] during the winter time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what i do is on all the credit card solicitations", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "if they have a return envelope with it i write across the face of it no thank you your rates are too high and i mail it back to them_1", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because now they have to pay the postage so now it's costing them something to do that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah they don't put as many of those prepaid envelopes in there anymore", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they don't", "role": "user" }, { "content": "not as many as i've seen in the past", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh up here they do well they're still doing it well it's just like up here we don't there's very very few times i've had to show my driver's license for to use a credit card", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um um-hum yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh and i'm not sure why you know why it's so prevalent down there and maybe it will catch up up here", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um that's possible i really don't understand that either but my stars some of it sometimes it's very difficult now the gasoline credit cards require your license plate number as opposed to your drivers license", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah we've got the", "role": "user" }, { "content": "although some of them_1 have a blank on there for it they don't generally enforce using it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we've got the ones you just stick your card in the pump", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i've not seen one of those", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah so whatever you whatever brand that you buy you just drive up to the pump you put your credit card in it and then it says you know please commence pumping and then when you pump then when you're through", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you put the nozzle back and it says do you want a receipt and if you can push yes if you want one and if you don't want one you push no", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "hi how you doing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "good [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "do you do you have uh drug testing where you are", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes yes we do right here at the at the very building they have uh a nurse's office", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh i haven't my name hasn't come up yet how about_1 you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh yeah i have uh what i've found out out of curiosity was my name has uh has come up twice and we've only been involved with the program say about a year", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh when i when i first heard about it i was very uh very defensive i didn't think it was something that that the companies ought to be doing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because i felt that i was losing something or taking something away from me", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes that's the the major issue i guess that uh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah but now um now that it's happening i i feel comfortable with it i- i don't feel as though i've lost anything and that i feel uh secure in that i know that everybody that works around me um is is drug free", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i have a a similar opinion at first i wasn't sure but then i thought it was a good thing for the company as as well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "how how about_1 how about_1 where y[ou]- ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh uh we had a couple of people in our group who [vocalized-noise] wro[te]- one who wrote a huge letter to the editors ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "saying that it's a violation of my rights and this and that and the tests aren't accurate and but i think they've got that testing down to a real science where you know they don't re[ally]- you know i'm i'm sure you saw the video on how they do the testing and it it's almost impossible i think to uh to make a mistake", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i was involved in uh in the in the initial training program because i had to go out and teach or explain to other people what we were doing why we were doing it so i- i guess i had a little uh uh first hand knowledge of", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "of uh seeing the films i had more of extensive training in in uh background information of the reasons why they were doing it the cost that uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh that we projected that it that it actually cost companies by having people uh uh be involved with drugs", "role": "user" }, { "content": "who were uh right and that and that's a lot of money [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "how do you feel about oth[er]- other uh things like public uh safety buses bus drivers and and uh airplane drivers or or pilots rather you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh oh taking drug testing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh sure i think that's that's i feel that you know for certain cases that i that i am willing to give up my rights to secure the rights of others i guess is what i'm saying", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh when the public whole ah is at stake ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i", "role": "user" }, { "content": "then i'm willing to gi[ve]- you know personally i can't speak for others but for myself i'm willing to say okay you know if i see this is a right to if to privacy i'm willing to give up that right because i can see that it's uh public good is at stake and the company good is at stake and you know if they can get this thing under control you know it it's going to save us all money as far as benefits and everything else you know insurance and and and and everything else in this country ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um yeah the the uh i've always felt that public people who are involved with the safety of other people should be drug tested i've i h[ave]- never said that i didn't want that the problem that i had was", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "whether my coworker is on drugs or not has does not have an influence on my safe well-being", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right you don't work in an area where there's chemicals or machinery or or things like that but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no so i had uh right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and um they don't have any of that up here but you know um i guess it's just the productivity and the the number of uh uh sick days i guess and that they uh that they accrue", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i'm sure that's still going to happen [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right well well i- i think they would you know someone on drugs probably misses more work and then i guess that's why this smoking thing came out too ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um you know i've gone to those classes uh unfortunately [laughter-for] [laughter-me] i'm i'm a smoker and um i- i saw the statistics that came out on", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh smokers typically have more time out of work they're uh uh more prone to accidents and all of those other things and and uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "when they're dri[ve]- and that's why why i guess the car insurance has no nonsmoker rates or whatever as well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "for for automobile insurance i had no idea", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that they were doing that i know that they originally talking about uh health", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah they non[smoker]- at least down here in Texas they have non[smoker]- nonsmoker they call them_1 discounts", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they give you if you're a nonsmoker i- i guess there is some kind of studies that show but if you're smoking you're not you're not as you know [vocalized-noise] when you're lighting up or something you know your hands both hands aren't on the wheel or whatever ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you're not as attentive um uh that's uh that's different i've never heard of that how about the um the the smoking premium out in Texas i understand they they started doing that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's yeah i guess that takes effect in uh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "June July", "role": "user" }, { "content": "when June July yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that they from what i understand that uh notices went out to all of the sites", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right there was a lot of uh controversy about that too i'm not a i'm not a smoker myself", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well that's that's the problem that's you don't uh how about_1 uh do you ea[t]- do you like French fries ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i do [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] wh[at]- what would you what would you ever say if they said anybody who eats French fries has to pay a ten percent premium on their life insurance ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i'd probably get upset", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh then you would get upset it's it's uh what they're doing is they're nibbling at the population piece by piece", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah right right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh and now they know that the number or percentage of smokers is is less than the the uh the people who do not smoke then they can go ahead and do that um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right right if they i- i- i assume if they they i guess they're saying with the cigarettes though that they've been able to show that it's the number one leading cause of preventable preventable", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "preventable death not yeah but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "death in this country was a half a million people a year or so dying with smoke relating smoking related", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah but isn't isn't the uh the insurance also for for uh Blue Cross so they're not only saying pre[ventable]- not preventable death they're also saying um that you'll have uh less likelihood of being sick if you don't smoke", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right right [vocalized-noise] right well that's all what i always felt if it if those studies were true about smokers having higher medical costs", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and we do have one smoker in our area who and he he seems to miss a lot of [laughter-work] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "is he an older person", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um forty", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "eight maybe", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's not too old", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah forty five forty eight", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah and he and he does miss a lot of work", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah but then there's people you talk to and say i've never been sick a day in my life you know so i guess i guess you know the the studies show as an average", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "not specific cases and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i thought well with you know if that's really true then then i guess i agreed with the extra premium", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "if it cou[ld]- i mean if they can come along and prove that French fries were the same deal then they have a right to charge for that too i guess", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well wh[at]- what do you mean if they can prove it there there's already", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah that that it's a major cause of uh early", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hardening of the arteries it's it's uh sure it is [laughter] high cholesterol", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well it depends if they're cooked in [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "s[ee]- see one of the things that will determine whether they're able to do that or not is not their ability to prove that it is unhealthy because we all know that French fries are not healthy for you it's the ca[pability]- it's the capability of detecting it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah right right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "how do you prove someone has eaten French fries [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right it it's the it's the honor system isn't it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's the honor system i know it'll be an interesting experiment to see how", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um but i think in time come you're going to see that happening you're going to see um where the high risk people pay a premium but they have to find a way to prove it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah right right well well i think the same way with alcohol too personally it you know that that would probably be the next", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the next thing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i mean but you know the[re's]- there's the difference because_1 uh they say you know i guess they say tobacco is addictive i guess they say alcohol is addictive as well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but yeah but there are more drinkers than smokers if you think about it ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah that's there is oh there is", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and and drinking is still socially acceptable where smoking is socially unacceptable today and so that there's a big difference so that so that they really can't make a a change in in policy about drinking until", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right right yeah well it's part of the business world too when you make deals you know a lot of times it's uh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] ye[ah]- yeah right right yeah ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "three martini lunch or whatever they say [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i guess you can you can classify alcohol as a drug so is a cigarette in my opinion um where it's not so[mething]- i don't think people that are that are smoking are doing it voluntarily i think they're doing it involuntarily", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know i am um i don't know anybody in their right mind that says that that i'm doing it because i want to i", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah makes me feel better", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i- i- i do i do make that statement i say i do it because_1 i like it but i can't say i'm i'm i'm doing it because_1 i want to i'm doing it because_1 i have to uh or be[cause]- my desire is greater than uh ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right the nicotine addiction yeah ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i have uh my in-laws are both smokers and uh they've tried to quit numerous times and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i think the longest they've made it is about three months and then they go to a a friend's house or something and there they're all smoking and and they break yeah they just can't stand it you know all of a sudden they get it's overwhelming and then they break down and then they say i'm a failure and then they just give up you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "start up again i uh i started when i was younger and uh it was prior to the time that the the risks were uh were known", "role": "user" }, { "content": "were known yeah so well i think we've probably talked long enough", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay nice talking to you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i can tell you're from you've got that New England accent", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] and you've got that Southern accent [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "does that mean you're you're you're in uh uh New Hamp[shire]- wh[at]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] i'm in the Att[leboro]- Attleboro Massachusetts plant", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Massachusetts", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i have uh my wife's uh grandparents are from Boston they're", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh no kidding", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "well we've talked a little bit about the Plano school system um i i really have been pleased with Plano i have a child who uh my son is learning disabled", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh i thank God every day that i have the resources that we have tapped into", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "now is he the elementary school", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he's in elementary school and he's not severely learning disabled i mean you know he just", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh but he is being helped", "role": "user" }, { "content": "he's being helped he he was in resource from second grade till fourth grade in math and they recently released him from resource which i'm i was thrilled i really was i i just", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh great", "role": "user" }, { "content": "thought that was so neat that they got him over that hump and um he's in the Herman Method of Reading i don't know if you're familiar with that it is something new and basically what they do is they start right from the beginning relearning the sounds of letters", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no that's something new to me i'm [vocalized-noise] oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think i read about that in the paper doctor Haggard is", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's wonderful", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "is heading that up", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes and it's wonderful he didn't have a problem with reading as a matter of fact he's reading on level the problem was his spelling", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and you know in in watching the way he has struggled it's interesting because i'm convinced i have the same learning disability or had that was ignored and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh right so you worked you learned how to solve your problems your on your own ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right and and so it's you know it's not an intelligence problem it's just a problem with learning", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "has has he had this since kindergarten or is this something that maybe learning phonetics and then he just didn't learn the right way", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well you know it's funny when um when he was in first grade he had trouble with with spelling and i would say to the teacher", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know it's amazing he will be able to y[ou]- you'll say to him spell cat and you know he'll say C A T and then he would go to write it and he would write C O T", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i kept saying to the teacher something is wrong here something is wrong here and the teacher kept saying oh he has a May birthday he's just immature", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you're right right right", "role": "user" }, { "content": " well second grade it was i will these teachers as far as i'm concerned are absolute saints because in second grade it was about the second week of school i went up there and i i requested a conference", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "good good that's great for parents to be involved", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and because all year long they kept telling me i was crazy well i was and i and i went up there the second week of school and i said you know something is wrong and thank God the l[eader]- the head teacher uh the team leader was a special education major ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh how great", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it was it was and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so she she was able to zero in oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "she had picked it up yep she had already picked it up and she said you know we we were going to call you if you hadn't called us we think there's a learning disability and we think he needs to be tested immediately because you know once the first report card comes in they have all these people being tested and she said i think we can get him real fast", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and sure enough they tested him and you know he qualified for for the help and it's been great and i and i thank God i'm here because i i know i have a sister who has the other extreme she has a a child in Connecticut who is extremely gifted and because of the cutbacks in the economy they have nothing for her", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right oh no", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and to me that's the same thing it's it's like having a child who has a learning disability that's being ignored this poor gifted child is being ignored", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] uh-huh uh-huh right but that's something that parents i think are able to help the gifted child in the home more than they could help the learning disabled child", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's true", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so because that's something you can do by just enrichment types of things in the home", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's true uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but learning disability unless you are schooled in the types of things and ways to help a child like that then it makes it real difficult and this is this to me is the benefit i see in public schools is that that uh you do have government money to fund the kinds of programs", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yes right right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that these students need and i'm not sure that the private schools or parochial schools address that problem they test kids before they take them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "exactly and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and if they're a behavior problem they're out that and and uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they they don't take them that's right right ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "this is a kind of a rejection type of thing and and we get it even at our level in in i work a nine ten school ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and we get students that come in that have been kicked out of the uh parochial and pub[lic]- and uh private schools", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh they come in and their attitude is i'm a bad boy and proceed to [laughter] prove it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i i really hate that for them i i would rather they not have that attitude but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well when comparing test scores i know recently i was in a discussion and they were comparing test scores between private schools and public schools and that was one of the points that i made is that you're not comparing apples to apples", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's right that's right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know you can't say um you know i know Steven probably would not be accepted because he has a learning disability and into a private school", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and um which is which is too bad but on the other hand i i can't necessarily blame them you know they they are a private school and they can do whatever they want", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no that's right they can be selective right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they ca[n]- they that's right they have the ability to be selective but you can't say then well public schools are are not as good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "perhaps they are because they're they're", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "if you choose the select top group out of the public schools and tested them and then compared them to the pri[vate]- to the private school group then i think you would have a more equitable", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you're right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "way and i have a problem when they compare the kids in Japan or Germany to the kids here in in in uh ho[nesty]- honesty the kids in Japan are they have to try out to even get into to which kindergarten they're going to get into", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and then after uh and if if you only the in fact they've had cases in the past where parents have committed suicide because their child has not gotten into the top kindergarten which means they probably won't get into the top elementary and and high school and if they don't then af[ter]- when they reach a certain age they just that's the end of their schooling", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and and uh they don't ever really go on it's only their top ones that go on like ours do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and and uh so that that creates a problem and and you can't compare because they go so many more hours", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the other thing is that the priority in the family is that child's education and is that child", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right well you see that with the foreigners that come here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i i was talking to somebody recently or read somewhere where they where they said that you know these children they they had to be the best and they put off all social life all everything you know well is that good yes the child is very bright", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's right that's right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "bright but on the other hand i feel like my children who are kind of middle of the road have are more rounded you know sure sure i think it's real important to have friends i think it's real important to play sports i think it's real important to be part of a team", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "better coping skills yes right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so that's why i said their childhood is extremely different from mine we didn't do all that you know [laughter] we certainly didn't carpool and run the way i do um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right well and you don't you don't see the parents uh encouraging those students to get on athletic teams or drill teams or band", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no right right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's strictly stick to the educational and it's interesting to see them as they get older uh then that is the type of adult they are", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": " pets", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no as a matter of fact i do not have any pets", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you don't", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no i'm i uh travel quite a little bit with my work", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i love pets i mean you know i have friends who have cats and dogs and all that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but since i'm out of town so much i um am hesitant", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "to get a pet because i don't you know i- i feel that such i feel it's a responsibility", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know and i would want to be a a good pet owner and i do have friends that uh you know go off and leave their pets for what i think are just long periods of time and that seems so cruel to me", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh it is you know i you know i'm home all the [laughter-time] or not all the time but um you know i'm home at night and everything and i do have a Siamese", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "cat and we lived up in South Dakota and i got her there at the Humane Society", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "somebody had dropped her off but um she's got a crooked tail and the whole [laughter-bit] [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well you know it's so [vocalized-noise] so often the uh the animals that come from the pound are the best ones", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh she's great she's you know she's a character she'll sit with anybody she'll play with anybody", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and she's you know a a great cat", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well you know it's it's funny i mean i- i know i really i'd like to have a pet i'm single and i know that you know there's a great therapeutic value", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh but like i say i'm i'm at this particular juncture in my life i- i don't feel i would be a you know a good uh uh parent if you will for a for a pet but i know my parents um had had uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "a pet for years and then they that dog died and they went for several years that they didn't have a pet and now they've got a German Shepherd that they are just nuts about ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh oh great", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it's you know and it's great to see that becau[se]- and you can just see that that you know it adds something to their lives", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it's it's great my husband is gone a lot", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and so she's great to have around", "role": "user" }, { "content": "good company", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know when i'm you know sitting here by myself and and have somebody at least something in the house you know besides sitting here by myself", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but that's a good thing i think when people are alone a lot", "role": "user" }, { "content": "have you ever", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "then i think they're a great thing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "have you ever thought of getting her a companion cat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no she's one that will not handle another cat", "role": "user" }, { "content": "is that right very territorial huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right um when they had her at at the Humane Society she was okay as long as she was by herself", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but as long as soon as i what i'm thinking as what they're thinking is that she was in a in an environment with a lot of cats", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and what their thing is she got the broken tail with from a cat fight", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and um it looks like well she was declawed and everything when they took her there and they just found her on the step and uh they're thinking that she they couldn't handle her being with the other cats", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and so they left her there and so i got her and you can tell when she's around other cats she'll pick a fight real fast", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but as long as she's by herself with us it's no problem she's really she's great with people", "role": "user" }, { "content": "how old was she when you got her", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "one year old", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah was that i mean that's one of the things i've often wondered about if you get an animal that you know i- i always think about the idea of getting them_1 whenever they're very young so it's i kind of always kind of wonder how well they adjust or how long it takes them_1 you know as an adult", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh uh she adjusted the that same day", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah she was great you know sh[e]-", "role": "user" }, { "content": "she said this is home huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah she says this is home she knew right where the bed was she laid on my pillow she you know did everything she laid on me on my stomach and you know went right to the cat litter box and where that was and she was great", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] that's great yeah yeah i", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think she was a good cat it's just that the other cats were a problem for her", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i have a friend who has a uh a cat that she got from the pound", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well actually i take that back she didn't get it from the pound she found it in her yard okay and you know and it was just the poor cat was just a mess it was the most horrible looking thing and of course her heart went out to it and she started feeding it and the next thing you know she had a cat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really uh-huh um uh-huh [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it turned into a beautiful animal long hair lot of hair and an odd markings and i think it you know is a Heinz Fifty seven variety but really a a handsome cat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh great oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but the crazy thing about it is this cat has a severe allergy to fleas", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so she has to she she bathes the cat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and the cat with this special you know uh uh f[ormula]- medicine that the vet gave her and which i had never heard of anyone bathing a cat but it you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "fairly regularly she bathes this cat and the cat you know is not [vocalized-noise] not particularly crazy about it but at the same time has kind of gotten used to it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it sits really wild i coul[dn't]- i couldn't believe it whenever she was telling he well i got to you know bathe my cat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh my mom has a Himalayan and she's grown up with ten kids in the house and she has no more kids and so this cat is just her baby", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it's a Himalayan longhair you hear of that cat having beauty appointments", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hair appointments she goes gets her hair done and comes home with a bow and the whole ten yards and it's just great [laughter] my mom takes it she thinks this is great you know [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh [laughter] yeah ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but she just you know she the cat just loves it She sits there and gets her hair blow dried and everything and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah they said this uh friend of mine in Dallas started off with just a couple of cats", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's just funny uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "now i think she's got three or four cats and a dog", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "the space program seems to have run into a little bit of a snag funding wise anyway they've decided the space station's not may not be worth it and uh they're going to fight over that for a few years it seems and uh just the idea of flight uh the shuttle system and what they thought they could do and what they're ending up doing and the complexity and the seeming uh number of errors and breakdowns and problems they're having with it uh it may not be common thing all too soon and even if they ever do get it common uh or get it to where you know the a large percentage or even a a one to two percent of of a given nation ends up in space f[or]- for some reason or another um they haven't solved and i don't know if they can solve the problem that weightlessness has extended weightlessness has on the human body i mean", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we can do all we want as far as technology goes but if a human can't stand to be up there then what good does is it to have the station that for extended stays if you can't stand an extended stay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i don't know if uh if all the monies that are being spent on it uh really should be spent with the idea of uh or with the goal of of the space station or of claiming a sector of space or having defense out in space i don't mind spending the money from the standpoint of uh basically government funded uh research and development and you know it's tends to create jobs our our economy tends to be uh based on a lot of a lot of that lately of course it really wreaks havoc with the economy when the government decides to shut down things like bases and and uh like [vocalized-noise] Carswell and things of that nature", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so what do you think about the the uh whole space program as it were", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh well i'm i'm kind of with you they've they've definitely run into some problems and i think it's it's some it's it's due to their own shortsightedness uh perhaps the trying to do too much too quickly uh and you know they take [vocalized-noise] take some [vocalized-noise] i think that they th[ought]- thought that they were going to get a lot more done quickly than they then they really did they didn't think out all of the the variables that uh that might crop up and then they've been hit with a lot of those uh a lot of i think they've had a lot of poorer ma[nagement]- poor management here in the past uh several years no no clearly defined goals uh uh a [vocalized-noise] and and goals that are that were obtainable you know th[ey]- they they needed to look at the long long range picture i think that that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh the Soviets have have done a better job of that you know they they were very uh they were limited so much in their technology and but they because of that they they tended to say what we're going to do what we do and continue to do it and do it over the long haul and so that's what they've done and they've they've uh you know they they've had a man in s[pace]- in space for you know a quite a long time you know in in in in the different space stations that they've had and uh so that tha[t]- you know that's been good for them they've learned a lot and they've they've made some achievements in in that respect but they['ve]- they've been", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "doing it very slowly and very long range you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and we haven't done that we tend to to look at uh a big uh a big project that we like to to have done you know [vocalized-noise] you know do the shuttle thing and and and [vocalized-noise] have it as a you know a space transport system you know up in the next ten years and you can't do that you know i mean it's just not not f[easible]- feasible but you know the Americans uh American publics doesn't like to sit back and wait you know ten years for something to get developed and and put up [vocalized-noise] w[ith]- w[ith]- especially with funding the way it is yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh i uh i think there are definite benefits from from the from the process of of creating space projects you know we you know we've seen that in terms of computers and and the the myriad of different uh technological advances but uh like you say you have to kind of weigh that as to what is it worth in the long you know for for the overall uh picture uh how much we willing to to put out for to have Teflon on our on our our cooking pans and [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right you know you really don't want the economy to or the space program to become a too large percentage of the economy so that when something catas[trophe]- some catastrophe does occur and it does have to be curtailed y[ou]- you don't gut the economy sort of like the defense industry problem has has occurred uh as as needs changed in the defense world then", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you go and cut back on your spending and it cripples whole sections of the nation as it were with the lack of jobs and lack of whatever else you do that with the space program and now as complex and as many different directions as they're being tugged with technology uh they want to be so big that if we ever did allow that um uh we're liable to be in the same boat and once these contracts are finished or if the space [pra/platform] platform disintegrated for whatever reason uh maybe there'd be that many thousands of jobs that were supplying [prats/parts] you know parts to that that weren't there anymore you'd have to go back to the jobs that needed to", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "be there when that was being created instead of being sustained and you know y[ou]- you can't have uh a quarter of the economy resting on one little project up there so i[t]- it gets kind of complicated when you start talk[ing]- getting that big plus you get so many different directions uh not being limited by technology here in the US but being limited by the whims of changing funding uh it needs even that much more or or better management from uh the NASA people to keep a clear goal and a relatively a reasonable one in sight as it were", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i don't know it's a it's a complex issue but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know i i mean i would love to see you know big things like that happen i me[an]- i've you know i've i went through the entire and i grew up in that early sixties you know big big boom of", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "of uh you know all those Mercury and Gemini and uh Apollo shots and and and was real caught up in that and would love to see something big happen you know i'd like to see that that occur but yo[u]- like you say it's it's a it i[s]- it is a drain and you don't it would cost an enormous amount of money to put that up yeah put something up like a space station that would work and really really be beneficial for us and uh i don't i don't know it's if it's worth it ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well they keep talking about uh the space station the biggest thing they want to do up there is is test out different manufacturing techniques uh in weightlessness but are these i- i never could quite figure out whether these techniques were something that could be done", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh uh simulated or we learn enough about it to do it down here on earth or are we talking about having to build some sort of a station that is going to produce these products and how much could you really produce in a lab up there uh i don't i don't really guess i understand what they're going to do unless they're going to turn out product from that", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "so the ques[tion]- the question had something to do with usage of personal computers um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes we are we are talking about computers this morning", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i'm a firm believer in in having lots of them i'm sitting at my desk now with four machines in front of [laughter-me]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-you] [laughter-have] you have four machines around you boy well you've uh you've got me beat i have a a Zenith here", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and at home i have a Commodore", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and a Zenith and my wife has an AT&T 1200 i believe it is", "role": "user" }, { "content": "good grief what do you do with all those", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " well actually on my Commodore i [vocalized-noise] mainly study lottery numbers would you believe i have written some uh programs in basic ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "whereby i can select any number of uh drawings and from that extract the numbers that have appeared the most", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i have another program in which i can look at the cyclical uh appearance of these numbers", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to see if there's anything that's consistent on that i have another number that allows me another program that allows me to add all the numbers i want and then it generates a complete set of numbers so that all combinations are covered", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " so this is what i do most of the time uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's what you do on your at least one of your machines on your Commodore", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "on my Commodore on my Commodore um-hum and of course i have uh word processors and i write all my letters is is wonderful uh my uh thoughts in my head come in bursts of about a paragraph at a time and i get them_1 all down and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah um-hum yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "naturally on a computer if you make a mistake who cares you can go back and uh [laughter-correct] [laughter-it] very easily", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so that makes it very very nice i get all my thoughts down and go back and [laughter-clean] [laughter-it] [laughter-up] very very readily so how about you Charles", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i um i do an awful lot of preparation of documents um uh and i- i use word processors and and fancier programs i mean you know graphics programs and simply make all of our slides um some of them i do on a Sun some i do on an XT", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um now maybe we don't call these personal computers um i started out with you know an IBM PC back in the you know about a year after they came out", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so wh[ere]- where may i ask where you work sir", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i- i work for the government in Washington", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know you work for the government i just wondering are you a NAVC or what what what section of it roughly", "role": "user" }, { "content": "of in in in an obscure part of the defense department", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh uh-huh because_1 see that's my type of work too i work at the Applied Research Lab here here on campus and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "my my field is underwater acoustics and there's a lot of things we can do with computers into uh studying", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "how uh things vary in the water you know and uh taking advantage of them_1 and so forth so it's a very nice very nice field and i- i am retiring at the end of this month end of December excuse me", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum are are are you are you also a professor or or do you just research", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes i'm a p[rofessor]- i'm an associate professor but my i my i'm a full time researcher", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it's uh been a very very interesting career believe me", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i can believe what are you gonna what are you gonna do when you stop i mean [vocalized-noise] take all your machines with you or", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] w[ell]- well uh the ones here in the laboratory obviously i'm they're gonna stay but i have similar machines at home i would consider uh uh doing some more consulting when i get home", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i have a very very busy extra life anyway i'm also a musician and i play in several symphony orchestras and uh i run a concert band and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i have a lot of external uh interests", "role": "user" }, { "content": " yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i do want to get very deeply much more deeply into computer work because obviously the world is gonna be controlled run and operated by computers in the future there's no doubt about it because it is really taking over", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and the amount of work that we're doing and the depth of things that we are studying can basically only be handled by computers because uh it's so much [laughter-involved]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it sounds as though you're probably more aware of that than i am because uh i don't get to use it in my daily work as much as i would like to here again let's say i'm starting to getting ready in preparation for retirement and uh so basically what i'm doing is", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "slowly getting rid of my things for many many years i had a full size acoustics uh study laboratory where where i could take recordings and and uh perform experiments with them_1 and so forth and so that's gone now and so i'm sort of out of business", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh as i say i worked with NAVC fellow named Steve Blazey was the fellow i worked with for many many years and he is now retired", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so it's been an interesting life and computers have come in towards the latter end of that i wish we'd had computers in the very beginning it would have been", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "so uh have you personally been involved in any trial by jury", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh no i've never been called for jury duty which i'm kind of glad for i think it it'd be [laughter-kind] [laughter-of] nice to actually experience it uh but no i haven't i have never how about_1 you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh [laughter] uh-huh yeah i was called uh once and i actually sat on a jury and it took a few weeks", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the case was suppose to the judge predicted it would take a few days", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it just stretched out and stretched out and uh it was kind of interesting", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to uh in a in a in a way that kind of satisfied my uh or that pandered to my nosiness", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "-[be]cau[se]- it was a civil case and you got to hear every little detail about how these guys had dealt with each other", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh you were invited to you know pass judgement on them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so when you did it does the jury actually uh d[etermine]- determine the sentence", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well in this case we determined the award", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um it was two fellows a bunch of money had had uh passed from one to the other and we had to decide uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "was it -[w]as it wages was it a loan that needed to be paid back", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh was it you know what was it and if it was something if if anybody owed anybody any money back how much did they owe", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and not only how much was how much did they owe but on top of that did we want to penalize them_1", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well it seems like the the whole process i don't know a whole lot about it but one thing that i would think is is when the attorneys actually go through the selection of the jury process", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "seems to me that that would that kind of biase[s]- i mean they have control over well we want this person and we don't want this person here and it seems like that could kind of bias the case toward you know their client", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh well that's certainly what they're trying to do right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh at least there are two of them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh knocking off i guess i guess all they can do is knock off the people they think would be most biased against them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right which", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so maybe maybe by knocking off extreme cases on both sides you end up with", "role": "user" }, { "content": "an equal balance", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "maybe", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i- i don't know the the whole process i it's a good process i mean it i gue[ss]- our country's based on [laughter] trial [laughter-by] [laughter-jury]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it could be it could be worse i- i find it hard to think of something better ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i really do also i mean the forefathers whoe[ver]- whoever came up with the idea s[urely]- they were surely thinking a lot harder than i can think [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but [laughter-uh] it just it seems to work pretty well in most cases then some cases like the Manuel Noriega trial i don't see how they could have found anybody in the country who didn't have some opinion on that case", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " yeah that seems like uh it seems like you'd have to ig[nore]- either ignore that i mean is it a requirement that you don't already have an opinion", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it is that's that's one of the things that's the reason why they will often change venues of court and stuff like that to get a jury which doesn't have any any uh bias towards the case", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it it uh it just seems like [laughter-sometimes] the people that they're going to end up with have got to be just your basic you know schmucks", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they got to have a problem", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it['s]- to not know [laughter-anything] about you know or not have formed any type of opinion about some of these large major cases that we've been having lately", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it just seems like tho[se]- i guess that's the one thing that i [laughter-would] think is wrong with it i don't know what you'd about it but those people are are not going to be i mean if they haven't formed some sort of opinion i don't uh i don't know what i'm trying to say really but it just", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it would almost be as if if it if they could somehow say hey having an opinion's okay it's being willing to change it that's important thing ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right be[cause]- because having not formed an opinion to me says something about the people themselves well either they sit in a little hole you know for all their life and don't hear about anything going on in the world and i don't see how somebody like that is going to be a very good uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't kn[ow]- f[orm]- form be able to form a very coherent opinion about", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right i mean you want people who are engaged [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "r[ight]- [laughter-yeah] [laughter-right] and that seems to be the opposite of what they they actually have to look for", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh well tha[t]- that was one nice thing about the civil case", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "is that it it was nothing that had shown up in the papers you know it was just two guys the", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what they the only thing they looked for was if you had been in a similar situation yourself", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i guess they figured you you know you would be biased in favor of which ever party you identified with", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh right and as far as the i don't think that the uh sentencing should be left up to the judge because that just that w[ould]- that gives too much power to any one person ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it does seem like the judge has a lot of power in the first place and why give him this part also", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right yeah that just i mean for for one person i'm s[ure]- sure they have studied the law and ha[ve]- been involved in it for so long but still i think it's this is suppose to be a system of government by the people even though that's kind of a joke", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-uh-huh]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but it still seems that the people ought to be the ones the crime was against society it ought to be society as a whole you know tha[t]- uh as represented by the jury", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "hi uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so we're supposed to talk about computers", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and you ow[n]- and you own one", "role": "user" }, { "content": "sure i do don't you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "course [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh okay uh i've got a PC", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a[ll]- right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "do you have a Mac", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so do you do you happen to work for some uh computer company up there in [vocalized-noise]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no uh ac[tually]- well yeah i do i i work for Lockheed and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] yeah that's why you have a computer at home", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no actually i it's like i i have a com[puter]- i s[chool]- when i went to grad school i uh i realized that having a computer would be li[ke]- tha[t]- it was going to make my life a lot easier", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh does it make a lot easier", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so sure did uh i mean i you you i don't think i don't know anybody that can get through school without a computer at this point in time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "especially like um it well just for like produ[cing]- for like for producing papers and things like that um it it was you know it it was like indispensable n[obody]- nobody on the typewriter anymore yeah it's a sort of thing where with the kind of support you can get from software to for for writing things like that uh i wri[ting]- [vocalized-noise] using a u[sing]- using a typewriter was sort of like you know uh lighting a fire by like rubbing two sticks together you know instead of using your Bic lighter", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah why'd you choose uh have you always had a Mac or why'd you choose a Mac", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well actually uh i just go with the times and and actually and to human factors and i uh i you know i was into when i was in college i had a Commodore sixty four went to college", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh oh at at work they had IBM PCs and compatibles and i worked for them f[or]- with them for a y[ear]- few years but i didn't have a need to ha[ve]- have one at home because of as a poor graduate student i didn't have money and also because uh there're plenty of them_1 around at work but then came the Macintosh ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it they came out with the Mac 2 which is a whole lot more useful than any other Macintosh tha[t]- that had come out and they also came out with Hypercard", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i needed to use that for my dissertation work", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh rea[lly]- you did your dissertation with Hypercard", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah so i didn't i had to uh use uh i didn't have access to computers at work very easily everyone was wanting to use it so i bought my own and that's where i started and i bought subsequently after that uh well uh replacement ones", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you're going to tell me you have a Quadra right now right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah oh no no no no i've had this SE thirty for f[or]- number of years now couple years at least", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "three years almost now uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i i[t]- you know it's like wh[en]- when i when i decided to like buy a buy a computer", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "s[o]-", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i one of the things that like that i i came down to is is that i i chose my computer on basis of uh of i- i don't know i guess at work we would call it like you know MIPS per dollar or something like that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it turned i i did a careful ana[lysis]- i went for my MBA [laughter] anyway i did a careful analysis of of li[ke]- o[f]- of the of what i could get for how much i was going to spend and it's like it turned out that that that Macs were almost twice as expensive like per feature than PCs were", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and that was like why that was why i cho[se]- i i ended up cho[se]- ch[ose]- even though it's like i evaluated Macs as being the superior uh qualitatively better in terms of like you know uh what what they could do and like ease of use and things like that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "when i started like uh investigating the cost of software that's when i decided that a PC was like re[ally]- was more cost effective even though it was the inferior product", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well as you know ge[tting]- we're getting away from that but that's why you have one at home because it was cost effective and you got your work done basically um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it helped me get my work done because uh it's you know i'm i'm into human computer interaction and human and computer interfaces it was one of the better ones and so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah no i i i i agree it it is it i[s]- i[t]- i[s]- is superior in tha[t]- in that case", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but i you know one of the things that i- i i think about in terms of o[f]- of like of computers is um i[t]- i[t]- i think that i don't know i[t]-", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "yes uh i think a lot of the problems whether they be in school or in home in discipline has a p[art]- it is rooted in the amount of time parents spend with their kids ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i i don't think parents spend enough time with their kids these days i remember my parents used to help me with my homework and stuff like that you know make sure that i had that i understood what i was trying to study and everything like that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "now my parents were the same way uh they they took uh interests in everything that i did not just the things that interested them or when they felt like uh i wanted to spend time which was uh uh when they wanted me g[et]- o[ut]- get me out of the door to school in the morning", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right [laughter] well we used to take family vacations which i always used to love we'd travel by car to all these different states and uh see these you know really nice things and they were not the typical things like Florida or Disneyland or whatever", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "was more like Colorado for the mountains or something like that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah that's essentially what we did uh i look i came from the midwest and we went to the neighboring states to uh little known places that i have yet to find anyone else that's ever been to these places", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah exactly i i'm from the midwest myself from Michigan and we'd we'd go as far as like oh oh places like Colorado we went to Arkansas very frequently and [vocalized-noise] the the biggest thing was that the family did things together you know we didn't just like separate and go our separate ways when we got there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we'd always go out and do things and spend time with each other", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah so i i used to babysit uh the neighbor's kids when i was a lot [laughter-younger] and um it was essentially they'd they'd get home from work the parents would they stick the kids in front of the TV set until it was time to go to bed and never did anything as a family together", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yep and the kids ended up the losers i think", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah they they became uh [laughter-brats] and juvenile delinquents", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the parents just didn't want to really put the time and effort into uh uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "its", "role": "user" }, { "content": "making them_1 making a family unit it was like they were single but they're they were still a a a single people but uh they had kids", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the kids were just a nuisance", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they they got in the way they cost money and they g[et]- they're that's the attitude that a lot of people have these days and it's one of the reasons why the kids don't do well in school and don't are carrying guns to school and stuff like that because they don't feel like anybody cares", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "a[nd]- in s[ome]- in a lot of cases uh very few or the only the uh only the wrong people care th[e]- the people who should care don't", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum right that's correct", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um ha[ve]- have you uh have you uh worked around kids quite a bit", "role": "user" }, { "content": " people at work", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] uh [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "not directly huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "n[o]- no not not in recent years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah i haven't worked i haven't worked around kids too much either i used to live in a building that had a day care down in the basement", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i'd go down there and play with some of the kids at times and it was really kind of enjoyable to just th[ey]- you know they were younger like two and a half to five", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and um it was enjoyable because they would they li[ked]- just liked being with people i mean it really didn't matter what you did with them as long as you did something with them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum exactly", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh you know let's play with the kitchen or or let's let's play with you know read me a book or you know do something", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the only problem i had with that and i had i talked to another person who had the same thing when you start actually playing with them you take on the same uh uh sometimes you take on the same mentality of like it's [laughter-mine]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] and i said wait a minute wait a minute i i'm i'm beyond [laughter-this] and i'm acting just like they are", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you [laughter] you speak in simple sentences huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah all the words have one syllable [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] do you have a boo boo [laughter] that doesn't go across very well when you're uh talking to your coworkers [laughter] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-right] [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "do i have a what [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] you know a boo boo an {owie} [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] i think i'm going to go to the potty now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] excuse me [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] oh yeah [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh oh well it sounds like you and i have uh similar opinions on this topic", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it's it's it's just uh parents today are it's they want everything if if it can't be done in five minutes don't bother me with it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yep no a[ttention]- no attention span", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and then especially if it can't be solved in a half hour with ads in between you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right it's the it's the television mentality all problems are created and solved in a half hour", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yep and uh then you go on to the next set of problems and solve them in a half hour too", "role": "user" }, { "content": " yep well things ju[st]- and therefore you have children that um", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "um regarding health care it's funny because i have a sister who lives in Europe and in Europe that's the way it is health care is just", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum they have socialized socialized health care", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right exactly and um the the interesting thing is that it seems that they don't even think about it it's not anything that seems to be um you know costing everybody a lot of money it's not a major topic of conversation it's just something that's done and accepted", "role": "user" }, { "content": "how do they pay for it how is it financed", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well um i think the government subsidizes most of it but i- i believe that that again just people are taxed", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a little bit more but it's just interesting how something you know that we consider just such a major issue is just in such working order there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know what do you feel about it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i feel like something needs to be done here and i'm definitely in favor of the government i just think me[dical]- you know medical costs have as i've seen over the years just go up and up and up and already just this year", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know i'm a single parent and you know i have to pay for medical insurance and it's just outrageous my son you know has got allergies and he's got this and he's got that and he broke his arm i mean and you know it's a thousand dollars here a thousand dollars there", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and you know even though the insurance is paying eighty percent of it you're pay an arm and a leg for the insurance first of all and then you're still paying yeah the twenty percent and so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum the twenty percent and and the sad part is that people to to you know combat this they just won't go to the doctor or they won't fill their prescriptions", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah or they can't yeah they just can't", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean that you know that's the alternative", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i've been in positions before where i've had to wait a few days you know to have a prescription filled because i just didn't have it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i don't think that that's fair i don't think it's fair you know to the kids and and to the people that are sick and i know that you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "every city has you know their you know their free hospitals or whatever and i know a few people that have had experiences in those", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i've been fortunate enough not to but i mean you could go down there half dead and sti[ll]- wait you know it's hard to see a doctor from what i've heard", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i know i know oh yeah it's true and i don't think that that burden should be put on companies either i don't think that they should have to assume the responsibility of paying for the person's health care", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well yeah there's a lot of people that um you know don't work", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know and don't have it you know any other means they've and so they either do[n't]- again don't have it or they have to take it out themselves and pay an arm and a leg for it ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know i'm thinking of you know i just did my tax return for the last year you know if your medical bills are more than a certain percent of your income", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know it's worthwhile to itemize and and last year i was the first [laughter-year] we reached that mark", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum oh you did", "role": "user" }, { "content": "where my medical where it was worth it to itemize for medical expenses because they were just they were that much of a percentage of my income that it just", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "wow um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know i just did it it's very frustrating [laughter] a hot topic for me [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know well and well you know you're not the only one though um i'm in a situation where when i started my job they were paying full benefits i thought great you know can't get any better and then slowly each year you know now they're down to seventy five percent and then they went down to fifty percent and and i understand they have to do that with the prices going up and up ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but um you just might as well knock of a couple thousand dollars from your salary you know to pay for this medical care and then i- i don't have kids so i'm not worrying about family coverage", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh at least at least", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but once you get into family coverage it's crazy", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh it's out it's outrageous and then a lot of companies you know offer you know you can have a certain amount deducted pre tax from your pay check for medical expenses but not covered by insurance but ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i[t]- it's just crazy yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know that's something that's something fairly new and not a lot of people take advantage of it but it's you know it's use it or lose it and [laughter-i]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-know] people at the end of the year you know that have had that money checked out regularly and then it's like well let's see i guess i could go get a new of glasses [laughter] you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right they have a hundred dollars to spend in December i know what you [laughter-mean]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know get a big crown done you know things like that but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah we do that too we're fortunate though this year somehow how it's only March and we've already used up our [laughter-entire] amount i don't know if that's good or bad", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i know yeah um do you think that that that the insurance and all they've got in Europe does it cover dental or is it just medical", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't know um i think it covers a portion because like i said my sister lives over there and they they just they just never have to worry about it i think it might not cover full dental but it does cover some and again it covers you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "major things it won't cover cosmetic type things you know if you choose to do something but um it's just like all in it's just all in practice it's all in plan i think that we could learn from that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah what motivates people to go into medicine are the doctors you know how how do the doctors", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't know i really don't know i know that they do equally as well there as they do here i mean doctors still have that same status", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] they do so they're getting paid", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " i don't know i guess they're getting paid for it one way or another and and i would imagine although i don't know maybe there still are private practices there i don't know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i yeah i don't know either", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't know but um it would be great and and if only i mean health is probably the one thing that people should be most concerned with you know espec[ially]- that makes a good society when people are healthy and they're not you know they're not stealing for money to pay for their doctors' bills", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know they're they're going to work every day because they're not sick you know i mean just something that should be more of a priority than it is now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i definitely agree and i remember back in high school being on the debate team and that was one of the subjects one of the debates should we have you know national health care and i remember debating [laughter-for] it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah um-hum um-hum well at least let them start off gradually you know fine so they won't jump into paying full health care let them pay you know partial and each year just you know let's increase it from there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i don't know but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i- i don't know it's going to be hard to switch i think that we're going eventually end up end up that way though i just don't see how we can yeah i think it'll take", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum it'll take a while maybe our grandchildren [laughter-will] know [laughter-it] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i agree it'll take a while but i think we have to be headed", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "have to be headed in that direction", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum well it was nice talking to you yeah maybe one day we'll all have health care [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "nice talking to you too first person from not from Texas that i've talked to", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's what", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you're the first person not from Texas that i've talked to [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i know like i said everyone's been in from Texas all righty well take care okay bye-bye ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] okay you too bye-bye", "role": "assistant" } ]