And at the time when you wrote the original order and you used the words "perceived, saw, and heard," we were concerned, as you well know, with the word "perceived" in terms as to what's the thought process. And there was dialogue on the phone amongst all of us, and you made it very clear that you did not want any testimony that would otherwise relate to biases and prejudices. And, in fact, when you reviewed the notes of the reporters, you had also indicated that your review of Heidi Bubb's notes and the e-mails clearly evidence that there was no bias in the writings, those writings.
Heidi Bubb's notes had been reviewed.