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Varghese has another outstanding performance, Leeper wins in dramatic fashion
Tanner Cook • Updated Feb 2, 2019 at 8:48 PM
Senior Day is always a time of reflection.
During Saturday's portion of the Buccaneer Track & Field Invitational, East Tennessee State honored seniors James Garst, Ben Johnson, Yohana Koko, Hunter Sampson, Kiana Davis, Starr Graham, Margaret Hayden, Mia DePillo, Nyambi Shoates and Lamisha Simmons inside the MSHA/ETSU Athletics Center.
"As a group, it's kind of bittersweet every year to see these kids moving on," said ETSU director of track & field George Watts. "They're all graduating, but we've got a lot more work to do between now and the end of the outdoor season. I'm going to miss them and they'll eventually miss us.
"I think this class' best moment is yet to come. What I think is really cool is that these seniors are trying to go out in great fashion like an athlete on the last year of their contract. They want to make their mark and they're serious about what they want to accomplish this year."
VARGHESE CONTINUES STELLAR SEASON
Former Daniel Boone standout and current sophomore Ben Varghese won the male athlete-of-the-meet award after posting a scintillating meet-record time of 4:07.30 in the one-mile run.
The time is amongst the top 30 in the country so far this year and is one of the best times run in the Mini Dome in over a decade, according to meet officials.
"I think this was more or less of a tuneup to sharpen the blade," Varghese said. "Going into this race, I had a good mindset to be positive and be tough. I knew when I got to one lap to go that I needed to change gears a little bit. I'm still trying to learn how to do that, but I felt good today."
Varghese is continuing a stellar sophomore campaign for the Bucs as he made an appearance at the NCAA Cross Country Championships in Madison, Wisconsin, back in November and has already dropped an 8:16 for 3,000 meters — doing so at a home meet in January.
The Bucs swept the top four positions in the mile with Adam Bradtmueller finishing second in 4:12.19 followed by Wes Pectol and Kheyvonn Benson.
The distance crew on both the men and women's side racked up on Friday and Saturday with top-5 finishes in the men's 3,000 from Josh Routh (2nd, 8:44.47) and women's 800 from Genevieve Schwarz (2nd, 2:18.52) and Lindsey Stallworth (3rd, 2:18.62).
The sprints from the Bucs weren't shabby, either, producing top fives from Simmons in the 60-meter hurdles (1st, 8.80), Davis in the 60 dash (2nd, 7.61), Jessica Lord in the 400 (3rd, 57.42) and a win from the women's 4x400 relay (Vicki Franse, Neyasha Honorable, Lord and Johnaida Eliscar) in 3:52.55.
Placing from the field events were Mekayla Brown, who won the women's triple jump (11.93m), and Johnson taking second in the men's shot put (16.02m).
Brown also won Friday's long jump finals with a leap of 5.54 meters. Johnson was tops in Friday's weight throw with a toss of 20.45 meters, winning by nearly 11 feet.
LEEPER SPRINTS TO VICTORY
Kingsport native and two-time Paralympic Games medalist Blake Leeper made his first professional racing appearance in the Tri-Cities by running the 800 meters.
He did not disappoint the mass of family members that came out to support him as he won the event in an exciting lean at the finish line to prevail in 1:54.70. It was just his second time ever running the distance and he says it's one of the toughest events.
"Sitting down with my coach Willie Gault and Yohan Stephenson, we decided that if we wanted to get stronger and faster that I'd have to step outside of my comfort zone," Leeper said. "It's not my favorite race and no matter how much you prepare and train for it, it's going to hurt."
Leeper's well-documented story of setting two world records in the T-44 for both the 200 meters (21.5) and 400 (44.4) have brought him to want to compete in the Olympics, but the IAAF and IOC have denied him that action, saying he has a clear advantage with artificial legs and he is technologically doping.
"That's my goal and I took silver and bronze medals in 2012 in London, but I want to compete and medal in the Olympic Games," he said. "I think I have a really good shot and with the right training and mindset, I can be out there on the world's biggest stage.
"I've been competing in track for nine years and this is the first time I've gotten to race back home. I've had family members and friends that have never seen me race live. If you noticed towards the end of the race, I had a little bit of an extra gear and that was due in part to having a lot of support here today."


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Herkimer village board OKs sewer district contract
The Herkimer village board has approved a contract with the town for a new sewer district in East Herkimer.
Herkimer Town Supervisor Dominic Frank said he has yet to review the final contract or the amended local law the village board passed last week setting the sewer hookup rates. Nevertheless, Frank said an agreement will allow the town to seek approval from the state comptroller's office for the district, which would serve existing businesses on Gros Boulevard and could help attract additional businesses.
Because there are so few end users, the cost per user is over the threshold set by the comptroller, Frank said. Without a contract, the town could not submit the proposal to the comptroller.
Herkimer Village Trustee Max Dhaniram conducted a special village board meeting Monday afternoon to approve the proposed contract in the absence of Mayor Mark Netti, according to Village Clerk-Treasurer Colleen Gross. She said all four trustees approved the contract, which was awaiting Netti's signature as of Monday afternoon.
The amended local law set hookup fees for customers outside the village limits at $3,200 for residential customers — up from $850 — and $4,125 for commercial customers, up from $2,100. Hookup fees inside the village remain at $325 for residential and $550 for commercial customers.
The $2.681 million East Herkimer Sewer District will include Valley Residential Services on Pine Grove Road and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Tioga Construction, the Herkimer BOCES Educational Complex, ELG Utica Alloys, Tioga Construction and the Herkimer Distribution Center, all on Gros Boulevard.
"This will allow Valley Residential Services to expand," Frank said. "Now we've got Herkimer Distribution that's dormant."
The Herkimer Distribution building, like Utica Alloys, is located on the former MDS site at the end of Gros Boulevard.
"There have been several inquiries (about the Herkimer Distribution building), but when they found out there was no sewer they looked elsewhere," he said. "With municipal water and municipal sewer, it could be attractive."
The town was awarded a $440,000 state grant and a $500,000 Northern Borders Regional Commission grant to bring down the net project cost to be borne by the district. Frank said the town is seeking funds from the Environmental Facilities Corporation, with hopes for "at a minimum low interest loans."

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Boom, Clap, The Thunder Move On
On April 23, 2015 By Hunter Hippel
Whether you consider this past Thunder season a success or not, this move was quite a shock. Oklahoma City fired head coach Scott Brooks yesterday afternoon. The move sent shockwaves throughout the league, and blew up Twitter. While it wasn't a huge surprise, I was pulling for Scott Brooks to keep his job. I didn't think he deserved to get fired.
In his tenure with the team, a total of seven seasons, Brooks reached the playoffs five times, including two Western Conference Finals and the 2012 NBA Finals.
It was quite a run, and after all of that success, he deserves to get fired after the one season he didn't make the playoffs? Coaches aren't paid for what they've done in the past, as baseball players are, but Brooks had so much under his resume. Plus, his players loved him, and with Kevin Durant's free agency upcoming, this probably wasn't the smartest move.
Let's go a little bit deeper…..
Sam Presti is a good GM. He would be considered great had he not made the Harden trade. Presti built this roster through the draft (Russell Westbrook, Kevin Durant) and through trades (most of the bench). It worked, but their main piece happened to only play in 27 out of 82 games this past year. While Durant can't be blamed for the injury, it seems he came back too soon. There was warnings. The type of injury he had was notorious for guys coming back too soon. Whatta you know! He came back to early, way early, it being a month before the original date, and look at where we are.
Had Durant been healthy the whole year, this would be playoff team. One scary playoff team.
Next year, Oklahoma City is gonna have the best roster they've had since they traded Harden. Westbrook, Durant, and a great bench. Serge Ibaka will be healthy. Enes Kanter is a question of money, and whether OKC gives him what he wants. If not, he'll get overpaid some where else.
This is the main reason I disagreed with Brook's firing. The Thunder have huge potential next year. This team is gonna be really good, given they stay healthy. With KD's free agency coming up, I would have kept everyone together, and go for the title. And if it doesn't work out, fire Brooks and figure out KD. There. Simple.
So why did they do this now? Presti said that Brook's firing had nothing to do with this past season. The rest makes no sense:
"We determined that, in order to stimulate progress and put ourselves in the best position next season and as we looked to the future, a transition of this kind was necessary for the program." -Sam Presti, Thunder GM
What? That makes no sense! The best position for next year would have been to keep everyone, go all in, and hope and pray that Durant comes back. All they did now was make Durant even more mad at the organization (dating back to, oh, the Harden trade).
In fact, everything that Presti said didn't make sense. He claims it had nothing to do with last season, which is understandable, but then again, OKC hadn't missed the playoffs until this year, which gave Brooks higher standards to meet. So maybe it did!! And, as I've already said, the best position for next year would have been to keep everyone.
Maybe I'm wrong, but Scott Brooks didn't deserve to be fired yesterday. They could have given him one more year. And instead, they'll have a new coach coming into one of the most important seasons in franchise history.
As for Brook's replacement, multiple candidates have already been named. University Of Connecticut Men's Basketball Coach Kevin Ollie has been named as a candidate, even though he released a statement stating his intentions to stay at the school. Ollie has been a great coach at UCONN, winning a national championship and having players like Shabazz Napier and Jeremy Lamb come through the program.
And yes, I know you're thinking "Wait, you didn't cover college basketball this year! What do you know?" Just because I don't write about a sport, doesn't mean I don't watch it. I watched plenty of college basketball this past year. Watch out for the first NBA Mock Draft.
University Of Florida head coach Billy Donavan has also been linked to the OKC job, as he's good friends with Presti. Donavon has been another very successful college coach. I'd love to see that happen, and my money is on him taking that job. However, the transition could be rough, and that's not what the Thunder need. Perhaps they could look for someone experienced.
Scott Brooks is one of the best coaches in the league. And he's a free agent. Don't worry, he'll have a job soon enough. Orlando and Denver have been linked to him, and I think he'll end up with one of those teams. Orlando is super young team who has a bright future. While they'll be a project, it's one that could payoff down the road. That team has a ton of potential, and I think Brooks is gonna end up there.
Denver would be interesting, but that team is a mess, as they'll be cleaning house this Summer. They could trade EVERYONE besides Jursuf Nurkic. The Nuggets will need someone young who's in it for the long haul.
I don't think Scott Brooks deserved to get fired. The move couldn't have came at a worse time for the Thunder. With next season being the most important in franchise history, this wasn't the right time to shake things up.
On the Hawks sale…..
Yet another bomb was dropped yesterday in the NBA world, just minutes after Scott Brooks was let go. The Atlanta Hawks, who are cruising their way through the Nets right now (more on that later) were sold to billionaire Tony Ressler, Sara Blakely (Spanx founder) and her husband, and Grant Hill.
That's quite a group. Hill had been in on the Kings with Ressler last summer, and now they got their team. The price was way below what I had imagined, selling for $850 million. I thought for sure it would top $1 billion, just because of their sudden rise this year. Atlanta is also a big market, and I thought that would have a big impact. With the Clippers selling for $2 billion last summer, I also thought that would set a new standard. While I knew the Hawks wouldn't hit $1.5 billion, I thought it would it exceed one billion.
It's interesting to say the least, and their current playoff opponent is gonna be the next team sold. That should be one hefty price.
Playoff Quick Hits:
Gonna run through every series….
So, Hawks-Nets is not fun, even though it was quite close last night. Brooklyn has no brain when it comes to shot selection, and the Hawks are totally taking advantage. The Nets have no way to defend their team ball.
The Celtics, even being down 2-0, have gave Cleveland is little bit of a run for their money. They've started super fast while the Cavaliers have started slow, making it close in the second quarter. Cleveland turns it on in the second half though, leaving Boston without a chance. Still, it's fun to see Boston be pesky.
Derrick Rose has played great for the Bulls against the Bucks. It's why they're up 2-0. Milwaukee is struggling to defend the Bulls, as they don't have big enough guys. Turns out the Bucks wing guys have not played well this series, as it seems The Greek Freak might be a little nervous. I hate saying that, but the offense of the Bucks hasn't been moving well, and it's due to the poor shooting.
Wizards-Raptors has been hilariously bad and entertaining. In Game 1, Toronto played terrible on offense and yet somehow got the game to OT. In Game 2, it was the same problem for Toronto. They have no shooting and the offense is discombobulated. Paul Pierce has carried the Wizards, but has lately gotten help from Bradley Beal. Beal has been great since returning, and it's helping the Wizards pull off the upset.
The Warriors are up 2-0 on the Pelicans, yet, it hasn't been super pretty. In Game 1, the Warriors had a huge lead and later blew it, leading to a pretty wild final three minutes. Anthony Davis has proven to be a matchup problem for the Dubs, but Golden State has answered due to New Orleans' injuries. The Pelicans backcourt is no match for the Splash Brothers. However, I still believe the Pelicans will get a win in this series, and if they do, it'll come from a Brow quadruple-double. You heard it here.
The biggest story of out Houston-Dallas is the Mavericks' injuries and the Rajon Rondo situation. He didn't play the whole second half in Game 2, and now is being ruled out indefinitely due to a back injury. Then, just yesterday, Rick Carlisle comes out and says he doesn't expect Rondo to ever play in a Mavericks uniform again. And yeah, they still have at least two games left. The whole thing is a cluster, and it's amazing how screwed up Dallas is. They haven't been able to guard JOSH SMITH. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GUARD JOSH SMITH. He played amazing in Game 2, and dropped a ton of dimes to Dwight Howard. Dallas hasn't been able to guard the paint, which leads them to be down 2-0. I honestly don't think they're winning a game in this series. That team is a mess. So much for Rockets in six.
It's amazing that Spurs-Clippers is a first round series. It's the only series in the league that's tied at one (so much for a fun playoffs). Both games have been pretty good, with last night being a classic. In the OT matchup in Game 2, the Spurs tied the series after out-pacing the Clippers. I think the Spurs found their stuff, and I'm not totally sure the Clippers are winning again (hint hint). In Game 1 though, the Clippers played much better, and had their starts play well, as San Antonio's didn't. Also, shot selection isn't great from Los Angeles so far. Keep an eye on that.
In the final series, the Grizzlies have bullied the Trail Blazers. Portland has no one to guard Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol down low. That's the main issue. In an unlikely turn, Memphis has shot super well from outside as Portland has gone cold. However, I'm still sticking with my pick. While Damian Lillard hasn't played well, I think he'll snap out of it. He'll go off one night, and will give Portland at least one win.
So much for Quick Hits…….
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Zara Phillips, BBC Sports Personality of the Year.
Zara Phillips was named last night as the BBC Sports Personality of the Year.
The horsewoman follows in the footsteps of her mother, the Princess Royal, who won the same award in 1971.
I like a nice Royal story. A talented young woman.
Good girl....I mean, well done m'am.
Joe Calzaghe (sp?) for me.
Sports Personality of the Year? What about the horse? Aren't they technically a team?
In that case, Joe Calzaghe was the only individual in the running, since the Ryder Cup was also a team effort.
Considering GRANDMA has probably the best horses in the land and mummy has the finances to steer her in the right direction. It is no big achievement!!!
The majority of people who have to go out and earn a living who are not blessed with the silver spoon given the opportunity could probably also hit the headlines.
That for me is the same as Prince Charles walking round with his red lid and wearing para wings after doing only one para jump and not eight as the commoners and that was in water surrounded by probably every swimmer canoeist the frog squad could muster.
Get the chip on your shoulder sorted out Backpacker!
Granted Zara had opportunities not open to everyone, but that doesn't take away from her fantastic achievement in a bloody difficult sport. You don't need to have shedloads of cash to ride horses, but not everyone can ride them quite as well as she.
For me it should have been the gymnast or the blind sprinter (how does she do it! Bloody marvellous).
But it was great to see no over paid over rated prima donnas that they call heroes (sic) from the football fraternity in the running.
Sorry Doc but you do need shitloads of cash to learn to ride to a decent standard. In my day most air stations had stables and anyone could learn to ride for a reasonably small charge. However to ride to a high standard requires both good horses and loads of time. Backpacker was correct in stating that she had all these.
Seems to me Doc that anyone who makes a stand against privileged lifestyles in your eyes must have a chip on their shoulder.
I think you will find there are many athletes equally as capable as her who have attained their positions by commitment and sacrifice.
Couldn't agree more, but the SPOTY award is for national and international level sport. Granted, this year hasn't been great for British sport, but to try to beat Zara Phillips over the head because of her background is not fair. If Joe Bloggs had done what she did, would anyone be looking into his bank account and seeing what he earns? No. We'd be applauding him as a great sportsman. Why can we not do the same for Zara?
Please, please I have heard this said before but the whole thing has changed.
Just look at the title `BBC Sports Personality of the Year` I think the word we should be looking at is Personality now where does that leave us?
What I want to know is how did a darts player get into the top 10?
I only put this in to support my theory that television voting cannot be taken seriously. After al Connie Fisher had been voted off and then saved by Lloyd Webber so often that as far as I can see there was no way that the final vote was either fair or square.
Little bit like having a vote on a ship for the most popular person and the Joss winning.
Not another member of the "Darts is'nt a sport brigade". there are loads of other sports that focus on concentration and application over physical fitness, and they don't get tagged as not being a sport.


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Home Beer & Food Beer Pilsner Urquell Launches Major Initiative Focused On Freshness
Pilsner Urquell Launches Major Initiative Focused On Freshness
Beer drinkers lucky enough to enjoy Pilsner Urquell in the Czech Republic often marvel at the beer's unique, complex taste. Now, Pilsner Urquell enjoyed in the United States will be packaged and shipped to have a taste as fresh and distinct as the beer in the Czech Republic.
Extensive measures, including refrigerated, express shipping and fully enclosed packaging, ensure this is the freshest Pilsner Urquell ever available in the U.S.
"The primary enemies to beer are light, time and heat," said Vaclav Berka, the Pilsner Urquell brewmaster. "Due to these factors, the Pilsner Urquell that people have drunk in the U.S. over the past years simply has not been the equivalent of the fresh Pilsner Urquell available in the Czech Republic. We are changing that."
The beer is now packaged in fully-enclosed secondary cartons that ship from the brewery within 30 days aboard refrigerated containers. This helps stop the aging process of the beer. Distributors also will maintain the beer's refrigeration once they receive it.
"Throughout our 170-year history, Pilsner Urquell has been one of the most respected and influential beers in the world," said Pilsner Urquell Brand Manager Chad Wodskow. "Our goal is to add to this legacy by establishing Pilsner Urquell as the No. 1 import beer when it comes to quality. With these major steps, we believe we're on track to do just that."
The first barrels and packages from the Plzen brewery arrived in the U.S. earlier this month. All of the new Pilsner Urquell packaging will explicitly state "Express Shipped Cold" and will be available in the following packages, in addition to draft:
4-pack cans
6-pack bottles
12-pack bottles
The new quality measures for Pilsner Urquell will be vitally important to the beer drinker's experience, addressing each of the "enemies" of beer.
Time: Express shipping dramatically reducing transit time.
Temperature: Temperature-controlled, refrigerated shipping from the brewery, slowing the beer's aging process.
Light: New fully enclosed secondary packaging, keeping light from striking the bottles.
"I'm so thrilled to know that by diminishing these hurdles, the taste of Pilsner Urquell in the United States will be virtually indistinguishable from the taste of Pilsner Urquell available in the Czech Republic," Berka said.
Pilsner Urquell's commitment to quality also will extend to bars and restaurants that carry the brand. "Embassy Accounts" will maintain specific quality standards in terms of refrigeration, velocity, draft line cleanliness and use of clean glassware.
Throughout Pilsner Urquell's history, the brewery has gone to great lengths to ensure quality and consistency in the beer, which is famous for being the world's original golden pilsner. In fact, an analytical test performed this year by Labor Veritas AG in Zurich, Switzerland found that the current Pilsner Urquell matches parameters set in place in 1897 almost identically.
About Pilsner Urquell
Created in Plzen, Czech Republic in 1842, Pilsner Urquell revolutionized the brewing industry as the world's first golden beer, creating a new style of beer that became known as pilsner, named after its city of origin. For more than a century and a half, Pilsner Urquell has been offering discerning beer drinkers a balanced and refreshing beer that has become the standard against which all others are compared. Nearly 90 percent of the world's beer is a variation of the original golden beer, making pilsner the most popular beer style in the world and further establishing Pilsner Urquell as a true original. For more information visit www.pilsnerurquell.com .
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Knicks vs. Hawks Odds, Pick, Prediction: Atlanta Has Edge on Shorthanded 'Bockers (January 20)
Adam Hunger/Getty Images. Pictured: Trae Young #11 of the Atlanta Hawks against the New York Knicks.
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The New York Knicks are in a bit of turmoil at the moment, and running into a red-hot Atlanta Hawks team at State Farm Arena is the last thing they need.
Atlanta has now won in four straight as it continues its march up the Eastern Conference standings and is getting some massive games out of its role players. Let's examine the road team's chances to pull an upset in our Knicks vs. Hawks predictions below.
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Things had just begun to look up for the Knicks with seven wins in eight games before Mitchell Robinson went own with a thumb injury that will keep him out multiple weeks. Now, they have to face life without a vital part of their defense and (surprisingly) offense.
The Knicks' Offensive Rating with Robinson on the floor this season sits at 118.0, nearly eight points higher than when he is on the bench. With his primary backup, Isaiah Hartenstein, New York is scoring 110.3 points per 100 possessions. It seems fitting given the inconsistent nature of Hartenstein's play, but the good news here is that the rebounding numbers have largely been the same regardless of which big man are out there for head coach Tom Thibodeau.
Another positive that we can look at here in the wake of Robinson's injury is the fact that the Knicks' numbers on defense haven't been all that different with Hartenstein. While Robinson stands among the league's elite big men with a 43.4% defended field goal percentage this season to rank among the 10 best bigs in the NBA, Hartenstein isn't too much further down that list at 46.3%. As we'll get to in a second, that should be a major factor on Friday.
First off, the Hawks have some injury concerns we need to address. Trae Young is listed as questionable here with left ankle soreness, and Bogdan Bogdanovic is also questionable with knee soreness. Those are two critical pieces for this team, though Bogdanovic has been in a bit of a funk of late with a 27.3% field goal percentage in the last three games and four three-pointers in his last 17 attempts.
Perhaps that could provide a needed refresh for the Hawks on offense. While their run of five wins in six games has been impressive, Atlanta ranks just 14th with 116.4 points per 100 possessions over that span. This team has managed to get to this point on the back of its defense, and its defense alone.
I would also like to point out here that the Hawks' offense has been noticeably better in the last two games with Clint Capela back in the fold. After missing 10 games, he's returned with 28 points on 13-of-17 shooting in roughly 21 minutes per game.
Knicks-Hawks Pick
The Knicks are thin at center with Robinson out, and even though Hartenstein has performed admirably on the defensive end I'm not quite sure I'm willing to take them in a near-pick'em against a big as strong as Capela.
On the other side of the ball, New York's offense had already been fleeting before it dropped down another couple of levels in the wake of this injury.
Much of New York's success this season has been tied to Robinson's consistency down low, and while I believe this team will learn to leave without him, it's going to take some time. This is a poor matchup on the road and I'm comfortable betting the Hawks up to -4.
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Established in 2010, offTheLeftEye started with a collection of pre-produced short videos that introduced Swedenborg's spiritual philosophies. The channel became part of the Swedenborg Foundation in 2013, the same year they introduced their weekly flagship web series Swedenborg & Life. The series explores concepts from Swedenborg's eighteenth-century theology and interprets them for a modern-day audience. The show airs Mondays at 8 p.m. Eastern Time.
In December 2018, the team announced a brand-new webcast series called News from Heaven. The new show is designed for people who want to better understand Swedenborg's thought in his own words. Each week, host Curtis Childs takes a brief section of one of Swedenborg's works and delves into the meaning behind it, highlighting key concepts and showing how even the most abstract ideas can be put to work in our daily lives. The show airs Thursdays and Saturdays at 12:30 p.m. Eastern time.
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Author: Paul George
I have been a grassroots activist — for peace, justice, human rights — since I was 16 years old. That would have been in 1968 (Gene McCarthy for President campaign). You do the rest of the math. Grassroots organizing had been my sole livelihood since 1989. I just retired in April 2019 after 30 years as the director of Peninsula Peace and Justice Center in Palo Alto, CA.
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On January 8, 2021 By Paul GeorgeIn Memoir, VideoLeave a comment
Here's my latest Zoom webinar, with Prof. Joel Beinin, Emeritus Professor of Middle East History, Stanford University. We take a look at what Trump has wreaked in the region and what Joe Biden might do differently (spoiler alert: not much, actually).
Joel was my first guest when I launched Other Voices TV a little over 23 years ago (November 1997). Back then the format was a lecture followed by Q&A with the studio audience. We broadcast live in those days and that could be pretty exciting. As in nerve-wracking.
With the pandemic, we've been doing the program online, of course. And that makes another connection to Joel. Back in July 2014, Joel was the guest for our very first online edition of Other Voices. It was an "emergency" broadcast to address the massive Israeli assault on the Gaza Strip that was known as Operation Protective Edge. We wanted to have a program on the war ASAP, but the TV studio was all booked up. So we tried out the fairly new Google+ Hangouts program and broadcast live over YouTube. It worked pretty well! If you're interested, that video can be found here.
If you had told me back then that in seven years we'd be doing all our programs online, well, you know how that kind of thing goes …
On October 3, 2020 October 3, 2020 By Paul GeorgeIn Commentary and AnalysisLeave a comment
When former President Richard Nixon died in 1994, my Nixon-loving parents called me to talk about it. They were genuinely saddened at his passing. It was obvious during the call that I didn't share their bereavement. My mother asked "Aren't you even a little sad that he died?" I responded, "I'm sad that he didn't die in prison."
Continue reading "Get well, Trump. I'd much prefer to see you die in prison." →
On August 12, 2020 August 12, 2020 By Paul GeorgeIn Orwell Was An Optimist, VideoLeave a comment
I and my friend TD are relaunching a video series that we created way back in the George W. Bush Error … um, Era. It's called Orwell Was An Optimist. They're short satirical videos. Think of them as live action editorial cartoons. Why are we doing this? To rephrase Lenin, sometimes you just have to be "as ridiculous as reality itself."
Continue reading "The Battle of Portland" →
You will not be on Mount Rushmore.
On August 11, 2020 August 11, 2020 By Paul GeorgeIn Commentary and AnalysisLeave a comment
"I shook his hand, and I said, 'Mr. President, you should come to South Dakota sometime. We have Mount Rushmore.' And he goes, 'Do you know it's my dream to have my face on Mount Rushmore?'" (Sioux Falls Argus-Leader)
No building will be named for you. Federal, state or local. No school. There will be no fort. Not even a single post office will bear your name.
Your name will not be memorialized by any freeway, expressway, parkway, highway, boulevard, street, avenue, road, lane or alley.
No park, recreation area, historic site or natural preserve will preserve your memory.
The Space Force will not name a starship after you.
No children will be named after you.
Your image will not appear on a penny, nickel, dime, quarter, half dollar or silver dollar. Harriet Tubman will grace our currency. You will not.
You won't appear on a postage stamp.
Your name will live on only as a curse, a foul aspersion. An epithet for disease. A synonym for disaster and depravity.
Those honors you will have earned.
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Policing the Police: A Conversation with Judge LaDoris Cordell
On June 27, 2020 By Paul GeorgeIn Commentary and Analysis, VideoLeave a comment
Here's the latest online version of Other Voices TV, a deeply moving conversation with Judge LaDoris Cordell.
Judge Cordell has been in residence in my personal pantheon for a long time. She is a brilliant and fierce advocate for justice, in the broadest possible sense of that word. And she is tireless.
She has spoken at so many rallies that I've organized that I've lost count. And she always — always — gets the loudest cheers for her speeches. Deservedly so.
Here's a speech she gave — "Necessary Trouble" — at Unity Rally: Stand Against Hate, Racism and Misogyny, in December 2016, on the eve of the Electoral College vote.
She has also been on Other Voices TV multiple times:
Courting Disaster: The Supreme Court (Sept. 2018)
Jeff Sessions' Dept. of INjustice (Oct. 2017) Remember Jeff Sessions?
Broken Justice: Rethinking Our Cops and Courts (July 2015) Sound familiar?
As long as I'm strewing your path with links, early on in this conversation a brief reference is made to Prof. Clay Carson of the Martin Luther King, Jr. Institute at Stanford. His appearance on Other Voices Online a couple of weeks ago, which prompted the reference, can be found here. (h/t to SR for suggesting this link)
Judge Cordell has a very long CV, so I'll let her tell you herself. I lifted this from her website. Watch the video.
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A. My drugs of choice were a combination of smoking heroin and smoking cocaine. The first call in the morning was to the heroin dealer and the last call at night was to the cocaine dealer. I stopped using heroin and cocaine in 2004. My sobriety date is February 9, 2008. After my first three years, while I was working in a treatment center, I relapsed on alcohol and marijuana in Las Vegas because, as we all know, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Not quite. I continued to occasionally drink or smoke pot off and on for the next year until experiencing a psychic change and embracing the program again. By working a 12-Step program, I found a methodology of living that works for me and had worked for countless others.
A. I believe it is a combination of both. Some people are born with a specific talent that comes from God, their genetic pool, or whatever else you wish to call it. However, having talent does not make them an artist. In the vast majority of cases, such talent needs to be honed and refined through hard work. Artists are made through persistence, dedication, and a motivation that transcends casual failure. I love the metaphor provided by baseball: The best hitter of all time had a batting average of just over .400, which means he failed every six out of ten times. In other words, failure is a part of the game. Through determined efforts plus a willingness to innovate and work consistently, artists are made.
A. I am a writer, but my preferred form of artistic expression within the context of my writing is poetry. Although I artistically express myself in my journalistic writing and now in my book writing, it is not the same as my poetry. With the poems, there is something magical as the first line falls from the sky and the rest of the words flow forth like a sudden burst of magic. At the same time, poetry is more about rewriting. Do you have the ability and internal discipline to return to that magical state later in the day or the week or the month or even years later to hone and refine?
A. That's a hard question to answer because I have over a dozen films that I've seen ten or more times. I think I will pick one of the more obscure ones. I love Terry Gilliam's Time Bandits because of how it combines that Monty Python-humor with time travel. A visionary film with so many small gems that are easily missed, it also tells such a beautiful story of a boy growing up. I wanted to be that boy when I was twelve or thirteen. Finally, it's hard to tell what is real and what is imaginary in the story line. How much of the film is dreamt and how much actually happened and did that distinction even matter in the end? What ultimately matters is imagination and how such adventures are revealed.
Q. Do you prefer living by the ocean, lake, river, mountaintop, or penthouse?
A. I must admit that the link to the penthouses that Leonard sent took my breath away. I could imagine being happy in those luxurious abodes with such startling views of the world's greatest cities. At the same time, I lived in 1989-90 and 1997-98 for six month stretches on the Greek island of Patmos. Thus, I have a special affinity for the ocean. Those were the most inspiring times of my life. I loved living on a small island, particularly during the off-season when the tourists vanished, and I was drawn to becoming part of an expatriate community.
A. If I measure it externally, I am in trouble because I am falling into the trap of "Compare and Despair." Misery is measuring success against other people's yardsticks. On my wrist, I wear a rubber band with a quotation from the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas: "If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you." I measure success internally. Am I showing up and doing my meaningful work and being the person that I was put here on this earth to do and to be?
A. The biggest influence throughout my life has been my mentor Robert Lax, who I met on the Greek island of Patmos in the summer of 1987. Backpacking through Greece after reading Nikos Kazantzakis to find my Zorba instinct of Eros unleashed, I ended up going to an island of refuge and revelation instead. In legend, Patmos is the island where Orestes found refuge from the Furies after avenging his father's death by killing his mother. In history, Patmos is the island where the apostle John had his revelation that became the Book of Revelation in the Christian bible. A well-known American poet known for being close friends with Thomas Merton, Robert was my mentor and a loving friend until his death in 2000. I miss him every day. He believed in me, despite my addictive struggles, and he never lost faith in my ability to find my path. I hope somehow he knows my gratitude.
A. I am taking for granted that a communication device would allow us to connect and transcend language barriers. If this were possible, the four authors would include Leo Tolstoy, Albert Camus, Jesus of Nazareth, and Franz Kafka. I think Kafka might be too shy to participate. If it were not true, the four authors would include Mark Twain, William Shakespeare, Cormac McCarthy, and John Berryman. I think Berryman might get too drunk to participate, given his alcoholic nature.
A. That's a tough one to answer because there are and have been so many great shows. I'll focus on shows still on the air. Right now, I am waiting with bated breath for the final season of Game of Thrones. I also love Ozark, Peaky Blinders, Black Mirror, Narcos, and Fargo. As you can see, drug dramas and dystopian musings tend to be my favorite forms of entertainment.
A. Growing up, I lived six blocks from the Metropolitan Museum of Art in Manhattan. I loved that museum as a teenager. As a senior at Dalton, after I got accepted early admission to Brown, I would call myself in sick, smoke pot in Central Park, then go to the museum and write poetry about the paintings all day long. It was pretty awful poetry, but the romantic inclination behind such a desire cannot be denied.
A. Angels in America by Tony Kushner opened my eyes when I was a young man. It was a profound theatrical experience because it mixed fantasy and history, political and social commentary with such a graceful balance of humor and insight. At the same time, when I was eleven years old in 1977, my parents got my friend and I front row center tickets to see Frank Langella as Dracula on Broadway. When he rose out of the coffin in the fog a few feet from our seats, it was so exciting as a kid; thrilling beyond words.
A. In my recovery, Jungian typology has been incredibly useful as a tool for learning how to go against the grain of my disease of perception. It allows you to understand the mechanics of taking contrary action. One of my favorite looks at psychology is Janet Malcolm's Psychoanalysis: The Impossible Profession. This vastly underrated, almost forgotten book grew out of a New Yorker article. It provides such insight into transference and counter-transference. My wife is in private practice as a Marriage and Family Therapist, and I have a lot of empathy for her navigation of this on a daily basis in her work.
Q. What is your favorite: City?
A. I love Paris. I lived there for close to two months at the end of 1997 to the beginning of 1998. A French film director gave me his extra apartment on the outskirts of the 8th arrondissement. It was during a huge national strike, so there was no public transportation for weeks. As a result, I walked Paris, day in and night out. It's a transportive city to walk like Walter Benjamin's flaneur, engaging the history of each corner. I also was lucky enough to give a poetry reading at Shakespeare and Company, the oldest English-language bookstore in the city.
Q. Have you ever been arrested, and if so, what for?
A. I have been arrested, but not for a very long time. When I was eighteen years old and a senior in high school, I was busted outside of Sheep's Meadow in Central Park for smoking pot. Caught in an NYPD sting operation, I was given a ticket that my parents never found out about until now. Sorry, Mom and Dad! It was dismissed in court because the arresting officer never showed up. But I was quaking in my pants, both at the time and during that long day in court in downtown New York.
Q. Who is your favorite novelist?
A. I still have a soft spot for J. D. Salinger, although I know he does not truly compare to the best of Tolstoy, Dickens, or even Hemingway and Twain. I see his indulgences so much clearer today than I did when I was young like the egotism of the spirituality and the almost childish anger towards authority figures. At Brown, my senior thesis was about the Glass family, his ultimate creation. It was called — Smelling the High Heaven of Ego: The Interplay Between Alienation and Faith in Salinger's Glass Stories. I tried to explain how Salinger used Eastern mysticism to reveal and condemn the consumer exploitation of 20th-century post-industrial capitalism. I was quite the entitled radical back in those days.
A. Manuscript Found in Accra by Paulo Coelho, Chasing the Scream: The First And Last Days Of The War On Drugs by Johann Hari, and the view from the cheap seats by Neil Gaiman. Also, Emma In The Night by my good friend Wendy Walker, and Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Noah Harari for the third time, both in book form and on tape.
A. Addiction is a disease with environmental factors. Some people are more genetically prone to addiction and definitely to alcoholism. More so than addiction, alcoholism so obviously runs in certain family lines. It's like having cancer in the family line: You are more prone to developing the disease so you need to take certain precautions. There is no addiction or alcoholism, however, in my family tree. Rather, my addiction was a situational coping mechanism I adopted to deal with childhood trauma. For a long time, the drugs worked and allowed me to navigate the pain. Until they didn't. Considering how bad it became, I am so grateful to walk the path of recovery today, and this gratitude is the very heart of my spirituality.
A. I continued to believe in myself as a writer and a poet even when other people had seemed to have given up hope. I never lost the faith, and the result has been an incredible career with my first two books coming out in 2019.
A. Getting married to my wife on September 26, 2015. She is the love of my life, and I felt so much happiness at that moment as my friends and family came together to support us. I knew then and without question that the 9th Step promises had come true in my life. Hard work combined with the loving grace of my Higher Power has opened wonderful doors.


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President Donald J. Trump Signs H.J. Res. 69, H.J. Res. 83, H.R. 1228, S.J. Res. 34 into Law
On Monday, April 3, 2017, the President signed into law:
H.J.Res. 69, which nullifies the Department of the Interior's Fish and Wildlife Service's final rule relating to non-subsistence takings of wildlife on National Wildlife Refuges in Alaska;
H.J.Res. 83, which nullifies the Department of Labor's rule titled Clarification of Employer's Continuing Obligation to Make and Maintain an Accurate Record of Each Recordable Injury and Illness; and
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Donald J. Trump, President Donald J. Trump Signs H.J. Res. 69, H.J. Res. 83, H.R. 1228, S.J. Res. 34 into Law Online by Gerhard Peters and John T. Woolley, The American Presidency Project https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/node/326538


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Home Crime and Punishment Distraught VA Man SWATed to Death In His Own Home
Distraught VA Man SWATed to Death In His Own Home
In an ideal world, police de-escalate situations. They use their authority and firepower to prevent and stop violence, not create it. Which is why the militarization of America's police is so dangerous to life and liberty. The arrival of a camo-clad SWAT team in a Lenco Bearcat at the scene of a domestic disturbance, for example, is not calculated to calm nerves and let cooler heads prevail. It's designed to overwhelm and intimidate the "perpetrator" and "suspect." You know: shock and awe. So what happens when the American citizen in question says "screw this I'm staying in my house"? I think you know where this is going, even if the Virginia SWAT team didn't. Or did they? Check this out from policestateusa.com . . .
The situation began on August 29th around 2:40 p.m. when John Geer — a 46-year-old kitchen designer and installer — was told by his girlfriend that she had decided to leave him. The couple had two daughters together, ages 13 and 17. Emotionally distraught over the breakup, Geer exacerbated the situation by throwing her belongings onto the lawn of their townhouse.
This led to her calling the police. She informed the dispatcher that he owned a firearm. A SWAT team was sent to the quiet cul-du-sac.
Geer's home was surrounded by armored vehicles and uniformed personnel. A police sniper was photographed lying prone in a neighbor's yard aiming toward Geer's residence. Men in helmets and military fatigues cordoned off the neighborhood. Police began making their demands. An armored truck a topside gun turret parked in his yard and prepared for a strike command. As time went on, helicopters whirred overhead and K-9 units were seen by neighbors.
"We're just here to help you — come out with your hands up," recounted neighbor Edith Eshleman, of the police negotiations.
What was it Ronald "Let's Make the ATF a Federal Agency" Reagan said about the scariest words in the English language? "We're from the government and we're here to drive a tank through your front door and cap you ass." Or something like that.
Around 4:30 p.m., with Geer sill "barricaded" inside his home, police used their $250,000 armored Lenco Bearcat to drive a long battering ram through the front door. SWAT team members made entry and ultimately found Geer deceased in his home.
Don Geer — the victim's father — watched the scene unfold from the front lawn of the townhouse where officers positioned themselves with their guns trained on his son. He confirmed that his son's hands remained empty and resting on top of a screen door throughout the confrontation with police. When John lowered his hands about six inches, according to Don Geer, one of the officers fired a shot and hit John, causing him to retreat.
Police did not immediately say whether John Geer was armed or why the officer decided to open fire, nor would they discuss the details of the conversation between the officers and Geer before the shooting. Geer's father says that he was too far away to hear the conversation, but claims that a detective assigned to investigate the case told him that his son that his son was not holding a gun at the time of the shooting and that he did not have one on his person.
Aside from schadenfreude this incident has Newtonian (not Newtownian) implications. For every action there's an equal and opposite reaction. Every time the police came down on the populace like the hammer of God members of the populace think the police represent the forces of fascism—and not for no reason. I believe the term currently in vogue is "radicalization."
Catch the irony? Up-armored in the name of countering terrorism, militarized police may be creating/encouraging proto-terrorists. If these disaffected Americans act, the police come down even harder, which creates more call for more militarization, which limits liberty and puts us all at risk.
In short, we need to defund these police militarization programs pronto. And incidents like this need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And the law changed to create genuine accountability. Good luck with that. [h/t Gunracer1958]
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RKBA November 8, 2013 At 17:10
Isn't this EXACTLY what Virginia voters approved just earlier this week?
Dave November 8, 2013 At 17:21
Not all Virginia voters approved it.
Chris Mallory November 8, 2013 At 17:25
Right because the "conservatives" would have rolled back the power of the cops. Unless you wrote in a vote for Elmer Fudd, your vote is part of the problem.
Totenglocke November 8, 2013 At 18:00
Exactly. Republicans drive the police state just as much, if not more so, than Democrats.
BDub November 8, 2013 At 18:07
There was a third choice i believe.
shawn November 8, 2013 At 17:28
Then all of those should of voted. Stop making excuses.
William Burke November 8, 2013 At 18:05
Your vote: a kick in the ass of the Police State! Also a pat on the back of the Police State! AT THE SAME TIME!!!
C November 9, 2013 At 12:35
The fascist won by a quite slim margin.
Adam November 8, 2013 At 17:10
Unless there is definitive evidence of the man reaching for a gun, then this is a much better incident to get pissed about, opposed to the ISU shooting. The latter was justified, this definitely appears to be a sever case of itchy trigger finger and over(kill) response.
It's sad to see.
This looks like a mini Ruby Ridge with even less credibility.
I find it interesting that if you try to employ a private citizen to kill someone for you, you go to jail, but if you can call the cops to do it, it gets done. And all it costs you is a front door and some yard work.
Jeff November 8, 2013 At 19:15
I really, REALLY wish that the New Orleans PD training video that NOPD made back in 1960 could be made required viewing for all law enforcement officers today. The video is now part of various public archives, and it's on Youtube, of course. The video's title says it all: "Booked for Safekeeping" (1960).
See those guys in the video? Now THOSE guys are heroes.
My oh my, how far we've come.
Look at those guys in the video. Now THOSE are heroes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUiMSwcIsO4
Gyufygy November 8, 2013 At 17:10
A ghillie suit that doesn't even match the friggin environment. Low Speed, High Drag.
Blue November 8, 2013 At 17:24
Nothing like a rag-mop on the front lawn. I think I am going to start feeding the fire ants in the future.
chuck (hates nj) November 8, 2013 At 19:27
Great idea let nature doing the fighting for you. Maybe get a couple foxes and raccoons with rabies in cages under the house.
sagebrushracer November 8, 2013 At 19:38
yes, fire ants and honey badgers! and a good sized paper wasp nest rigged for with a remote drop system. Flying things with stingers will clear a yard quicker than mustard gas.
Keith in TX November 9, 2013 At 00:04
Or a surfeit of skunk would do the trick.
A harmless little critter that instills instant fear in almost everyone.
WAIT! That's a GHILLIE SUIT? I thought it was RAPUNZEL!!!
ropingdown November 8, 2013 At 19:20
A Ghillie suit in the N VA suburbs needs to be green, obviously. The sniper needs to look like shrub, not a stand of dry reeds. Who paid for this item?
You. and me. well, it was a group effort really… I think they wasted our money tho….
Bob5 November 8, 2013 At 20:18
It has always been a mystery to me why civilian police departments that patrol urban environments insist on camouflage for their SWAT teams. It serves no useful purpose other than to intimidate. Frankly, solid black or blue intimidate a bit more than camouflage. Being a retired military cop, I have definite opinions about civilian police wearing camouflage. First, if they enter a base or operate near a base, I could argue that a military cop has probable cause to apprehend or detain them. If I am not mistaken, impersonating a military member is still a federal crime, and if you tack on a weapons charge if they enter the base, it could be interesting. Second, if the US went to war, under the version of the Geneva Convention that most countries follow, they would likely be executed if captured on a battlefield wearing military style uniforms if they couldn't prove they were legitimate military.
Pascal November 8, 2013 At 21:07
> It serves no useful purpose other than to intimidate.
I believe you just found your useful purpose.
stitch1870 November 9, 2013 At 05:51
Not only that but it looks to be a .50caliber rifle. What in the hell is a municipality going to need a heavy hitter like that for? Honestly if your district is so shot to shit that your officers "need" stuff like this, maybe you should be forced to callin the Nat'l Guard before being allowed to arm up your officers with stuff like this.
Nimda0815 November 11, 2013 At 13:32
Can't a land owner kick that stupid wannabe soldier off his property? I sure as hell would have tried at least! I might have been marking myself for the local po-po but I did ask the cops to take their speed-trp outta my daughters driveway before and they had to leave (second driveway that leads to the back of her rural property).
Ing November 8, 2013 At 17:16
So they broke down the guy's door with the ram on the front of their armored vehicle…I'm glad they're starting to put those things to good use.
DonS November 8, 2013 At 18:03
Back when I lived in the People's Democratic Shithole of California (Santa Clara edition), I got to watch one in action. About 100 yds from my front door, various police agencies showed up in pursuit of some kind of wanted person… they drove their machine up to the residence, busted a hole in a front window, and lobbed a few flash-bangs (presumed, based on light and noise that I observed). They left a couple of hours later, sans wanted person.
Fun times in the PRK.
Frank Masotti November 8, 2013 At 17:20
Just another case of cold blooded murder by the so called piece officers. A regular person does it and they go to prison. A "swat" officer does it and nothing real will happen. Probubly a slap on the wrist.
Militarized COS play. One of these days I hope some of these over reacting b.s. teams hook themselves a full blown Panzer Division with Luftwaffe support.
WV Cycling November 9, 2013 At 12:01
Oh, like NYC? ;P
Brian S November 8, 2013 At 17:22
let me get this straight, a platoon of camo dudes show up at a domestic disturbance because someone screamed "GUN!"… and we aren't calling THEM the "terrorists"?
Shane November 8, 2013 At 17:51
Well, the dude might have had a .88 magnum. Those things go straight through schools!
The sniper has a .50 cal. Because if there is one weapon that should be fired in a crowded subdivision it is one that will blow through standard home construction like wet kleenex. What did he think he was going to shoot that required him to uncase a 50 BMG chambered rifle?
I wondered much the same thing.
And what will happen the day a news crew is filming, and the American public gets to see first hand what a 50BMG round does to the human body? It actually might shock people into realizing what police militarization means.
Sterling the Bandit November 8, 2013 At 18:03
Unfortunately, when that inevitably happens, I imagine it will immediately be followed by calls to ban .50 BMG (or whatever weapon the LEO uses) for civilian purchase. Not because that makes any sense, of course. But because Alinksy-ite Leftists know that afterwards, they immediately need to obfuscate, shift blame, and confuse the public as much as possible. There's a not-so-subtle level of projection that comes from the hard Left.
Sadly, true.
JWhite November 8, 2013 At 18:55
Thats what they use the 30 second delay for…
Geez, I didn't catch that. Why in the world would a civilian police department need a 50 cal.? Talk about excessive use of force if they end up using that thing.
Mark November 9, 2013 At 21:41
No reason for a 50 cal in a domestic dispute, terrorist situation when needing to shoot thru a wall maybe.
Only thing i would use it for is if you possibly needed to take out a engine block or such.
Ralph November 8, 2013 At 17:25
Are the cops trying to convince average, normal Americans citizens that in the case of a confrontation with an officer, the citizen might as well blaze away because he's going to get killed anyway?
If so, then all they have to do is to keep on doing what they're doing. The police war on America isn't making cops safer, it's making them targets.
Vendetta November 8, 2013 At 17:30
Why are they all in OD green? Oh thats right they are milit…. Hold on a pip.
Chris75 November 8, 2013 At 17:33
Usually i give the cops the benefit of the doubt but this one doesn't look good for them. She told the dispatcher he owned a gun. Maybe the dispatcher thought she meant he was holding the gun. Either way this one…I don't know.
Cliff H November 8, 2013 At 17:51
Owning a gun (pistol) is NOT a crime. Arguing with your self-estranged wife is not a crime, nor is helping her pack by throwing her belongings on the front lawn. Was there any allegation or proof that this man threatened her with the pistol she reported him owning? Or was the mere reporting of the argument and the weapon together sufficient to call out SWAT? If they did not have probable cause for a search warrant to be issued (nothing in the post mentions a warrant) then this man denying the police entrance to his home is not illegal. This kind of police over-reaction has GOT to stop. Based on this example any woman with a beef against her husband, boyfriend or ex can cause him no end of legal grief and expense, or have him legally shot, just by showing up, starting an argument, and then reporting to police that he owns weapons. How is that justice?
It isn't. Its conditioning.
"Based on this example any woman with a beef against her husband, boyfriend or ex can cause him no end of legal grief and expense, or have him legally shot, just by showing up, starting an argument, and then reporting to police that he owns weapons."
Note that actually owning weapons is irrelevant. Just the phrase "he owns weapons" is enough to get you executed by the terrorist organization referred to as "the police".
Being a realist, I don't see much point in discussing what will happen in this case. What bothers me is this, that we spend so much money on PD's, on firearms research (at the state and especially national level), and yet we've obviously moved backward in tactics, to a pure firepower and speed approach…to domestic disturbance calls. What on earth is the rush? Is there a prize for settling a domestic dispute within two hours? Even if twenty LEO's, not four, are billable to the call? Even if it means shooting the distraught man? Because his girlfriend's clothing was tossed? The complaining girlfriend and the children were out of the house. There was no rush. There was no reason for the LEO at the door to force the situation. With an armored car outside, the containment of the house could safely be left to them. Standing behind a screen door isn't "barricaded." Ordering a person out of the house isn't "negotiating."
Why was one of the patrolmen standing so close to the screen door with his gun up and on Geer? There were no longer any kids in the house. So what if Geer stayed in the otherwise empty house? The LEO at the door actually had no function requiring him to remain close-in, in supposed harm's way. He was, at that point, the active creator of his own risk. There was an armored car outside whose crew certainly could maintain containment.
Slicer87 November 8, 2013 At 21:54
It is called violence by proxy, when someone gets others, even the police to commit violence for them. Many LEOs are all too happy to get an excuse to do so. This is also a case of state sanctioned and assisted domestic violence against males. There are far too many cases of violent women getting cops to commit violence for them using false claims and getting off scott free. Because domestic violence against men is perfectly okay and fully endorsed by the government and society. Both libs and consv share the blame for this since both support this for different reasons. It is pretty clear the exgirlfriend told the cops about the gun to get her ex in deep trouble, maybe she even intended murder by proxy/cop of him.
Henry Bowman November 9, 2013 At 07:20
Violence by proxy…. otherwise know as Democracy.
DJ November 9, 2013 At 21:05
"maybe she even intended murder by proxy/cop of him."
Doubt she intended that. it's a real shame she can't collect child support. Tragically, she's going to have to get a real job and support herself and those kids. That usually isn't part of the plan in these deals.
So THAT'S who was giving the cops all that benefit of the doubt… it was you, all along. Maybe they'll send you something for Christmas.
Sixpack70 November 8, 2013 At 17:39
bgreenea3 November 8, 2013 At 17:41
Ok, so we are judging with partial info from a biased source? Isn't that what we yell about with the anti gun crowd?
Not saying it was a good or bad shooting, just like I reserved my judgement in zimmerman, there is more to the story than what we are hearing now.
I am not judging whether it is a justified shooting, but rather why they needed a tank and 700 cops in fatigues for a man, alone, who may or may not have a gun.
I think most of us are capable of revising our opinions in the light of any new evidence that comes along, so we're all good. But thanks for looking out for everyone.
Comparing rendering an initial reaction and opinon to this story to the anti's penchant for jumping to their FOREGONE conclusions and never revising their assertions in the face of ANY evidence, is disingenuous.
Hannibal November 8, 2013 At 17:54
Now, now, there's no need for that reasonable response here. Everyone here just wants to know if there was a dog involved so they can joke about that next…
No one finds it funny, Hannibal. What you perceive as humor is a human stress-coping mechanism. Something we humans do to be able to process things that are difficult to face as real. No one is actually amused.
Hannibal, we have video. We know that containment was maintainable by the armored car. The LEO in close with his gun up could back away, eliminating the danger to himself, without increasing danger to the community. For god's sake, the shooter was backup up by a SWAT team, sniper, armored car. Why did he just stand there thinking "if the guy moves a hand, I'm gonna shoot"? Why? No reason why. As far is I can tell he shot because the man inside was going to close the door, making a shot impossible. No? Closing the door on a policeman is not justification to shoot. The shooter was only at risk (in his own mind) because he failed to back away when others at a distance could cover the door.
I was wondering when the police apologists would show up in this thread. You can always be counted on to excuse rape and murder by the thugs in blue.
Hey, don't play the rape card here! They're saving that one up for the next 20-year old woman!
New Mexico cops are using rape on guys now.
Robert Farago November 8, 2013 At 19:09
True story. Click here.
Jim November 9, 2013 At 06:49
Is that really a .50 BMG rifle? Really? How far from his intended target could he possibly be in that setting? Maybe 30-50 yards max? Figuring the average muzzle energy for a .50 is somewhere around 10,000 ft pds, depending on the round used, then it's very possible to go all .88 magnum and shoot right through the house. Not hard to imagine a round blasting right through the guy and say, out a window behind him with plenty of destructive power left. Theres just no damn good reason for that weapon to be deployed there. Whats next? Mortars?
Jim, his hold is probably 3 feet low at that range.
so we are judging with partial info from a biased source?
Two weeks after the shooting, the Washington Post and NBC reported, and the detective on the scene admitted, that John Geer was unarmed when the cops blew him away. And the Police Chief isn't saying sh1t, falling back on the "ongoing criminal investigation" line of crap.
Satisfied with these sources, or can I bring you a few boots to lick?
Accur81 November 8, 2013 At 18:43
I'm a cop and it looks dirty shoot and respons to me. SWAT needs to return to multiple armed bank robbers and hostage situations with multiple suspects. I don't see any justified reason for SWAT and their armor, nor for the shooting itself. Further, every indication points to the over usage of SWAT, which might get real pretty damn quick when it happens in your neighborhood.
Hasdrubal November 8, 2013 At 20:25
Agreed, this looks liike a bad shoot. Have read several articles and nothing looks like it justifies even SWAT, mainly because there was no report of a crime. Not how we do business here, if there's no crime, we end up leaving pretty quick.
Swarf November 8, 2013 At 17:50
Police used to do police work. Protecting, serving, that kind of thing.
There was not a police officer in that whole absurd clusterfu*k, just a bunch of cops. *spit*
What a bunch of pussies.
"My husband has got a gun and is acting crazy, I'm scared and so are my two daughters."
"Well, gosh ma'am, that doesn't sound like a job for us!"
You know Mayberry wasn't real, right?
What are you talking about? Was that even in reference to my comment, or did you hit "reply" accidentally?
There's a bit of a difference between how cops were trained in the days of mayberry and how they're trained now. Big city cops have (almost) always been corrupt, but small town cops didn't usually display the "us vs. them" mentality that seems so prevalent these days.
Roscoe November 8, 2013 At 19:46
'Us vs. them' has been around for decades; you just hear of it more now because it has become much more evident with the militarization of law enforcement and the haste with which coppers now over respond, overreact, and use deadly force.
Police in turn have been conditioned to overreact by a perceived atmosphere of deadly violence where they are freely able to quickly up the ante in response to ANY threat without sufficient accountability and training to condition reasonable restraint.
These guys were clearly over hyped and acting out of their league despite all the costumes they wore.
Problem is, that's a deadly trend which is becoming all too prevalent; and it's a trend that is NOT supported by conservatives or Republicans; certainly not this one. It's a trend supported by progressive statists, the social engineering Democrats, and the anti 2nd Amendment anti gun anti gun owner fanatics.
Think about it. Who is it that most wants to exercise dominion and control over everyone.
In what world was SWAT supposed to displace progress in developing intelligent life-preserving police methods? Did Springfield PD really think this was an active shooter situation? The serving of a warrant on a dangerous drug gang? I didn't think so. But the SWAT team behind the shooter made him feel bolder, rather than feel he could back away because the situation was certainly contained.
The shooter at the screen door acted, in fact, exactly in the way we teach CCW people NOT to act. "Don't act aggressively just because you have a gun. Instead, withdraw from danger when that is possible." Certainly, in the Geer case, backing away was possible without increasing danger to the neighbors.
jwm November 9, 2013 At 09:27
I don't know what fantasy land some commentors live in but I lived in Mayberry, or close to it. In the days when cops had "sap" gloves, black jacks and routinely trained on the choke hold. When 1 of those cops showed up on scene you had a simple choice. Comply or get hurt. I never heard of or saw a cop that showed up and then just went away because the citizens locked himself in the house and wouldn't come out.
I've said it before. When the cops show up at your house, comply. You can't win the fight and they ain't leaving just because you recite the constitution to them.
Live to call your lawyer. Anything else is just stupid.
Blake November 8, 2013 At 17:54
They view these occasions as opportunities to practice, a training exercise for snipers to shoot live targets. To use all the military gear, equipment and vehicles that they have acquired . etc. America is finished, turn out the lights.
Because if you don't use them regularly, they go stale. Like nuclear weapons. Think of all the negative press if we were to use a stale nuke against Syria!!!
ThomasR November 8, 2013 At 18:35
It's the natural progression of the on going war on the American people; the most recent big push was Prohibition and the growth of the welfare state; this was the first big push by criminals to control the alcohol trade and government to control everything else; it's also the first big gun control law licensing full auto weapons; this also started what was to become the FBI.
Then we get the "great Society" in the sixties which led to medicaid and medicare, the beginning destruction of the black family with government aid and the "War on Drugs" and what do you get, a massive increase of crime as criminals fight over drug territory and the Cold War with Russia massive growth of government trying to control everyone, sounds kind of familiar.
But the war on civil rights, I mean the war on drugs continues , but now the war on us and our civil rights continues with the "war on terror".
The Founding Fathers warned against extended wars that never end because they saw historically it led to a loss of personal freedoms and the growth of a police state.
Looks like those old dead white guys were right, again.
Coe November 8, 2013 At 18:19
Well… that's one way to permanently get rid of/get back at your boyfriend. Living alone is starting to sound ideal… and better for one's health.
Domestic Violence = Terrorism
John Geer was not armed when he was killed.
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/09/john-geer-not-armed-after-all-according-to-investigators-93601.html
And NBC reports that "Police Chief Ed Roessler said the shooting is still an active criminal investigation so he can't provide more information about what happened, or address neighborhood concerns just yet."
In other words, the cover-up continues.
Just like that case in Iowa, but this one is decidedly more problematic and more difficult to excuse
Dave S November 8, 2013 At 18:28
more armor in the doors and walls is called for, perhaps an AT ditch in the front?
Gov. William J. Le Petomane November 8, 2013 At 18:43
Further proof that we have far too many LEOs in this country.
Can anyone explain to me why police seem to NEVER stand down?
It seems like in situations like this, when they've deployed this many of their toys and men, they complely refuse to leave until someone is under arrest or dead – even when there is no evidence of a crime.
One day they are going to fuck with the wrong person and get mowed down from behind by a neighbor. They never cover their rears or flanks. I was starting to think during the Dorner incident, when he had so many sympathizers, that this was a real possibility
Mark N. November 8, 2013 At 19:47
That was the A number one question I had…What was this man's crime? Yes he was distraught because his girlfriend was leaving him, but were was the actual violence against another that would warrant a police intervention or arrest? If there was no crime, what authority did the police have for ordering him out of his own house? What authority did they have for entering his house without a warrant? Yeah yeah, I can hear the "exigent circumstances" ell ringing–but since there was no one else in the house, there were no exigent circumstances.
It seems to me, sadly, that we have reached the point where noncompliance with orders from police officers–whether those orders are lawful or not–is punished with extreme and immediate prejudice, from beatings to shootings. What happened to the days of the bullhorn and the phone call? All of the techniques for "talking down" a "subject"? It is truly disturbing, in a very Orwellian sense.
Yes, absolutely!
And I can already hear the anti's shrill proclamation; if he didn't have a gun, this never would've happened.
Problem is, when the police are conditioned to respond like they did here, it wouldn't matter. The homeowner's attitude, and the cops attitude, got him dead. But he was gunned down – unjustifiably.
As far as we know, he didn't have a gun.
Agree completely. When an intervention even by two LEO's is questionable under the 911 facts, call in SWAT?
It brings to mind the St. Louis PD shooting out the tire, years ago, of an out-of-control Augustus Busch IV, who was fleeing them at high speed. It worked. But when they found out who it was, they changed his tire for him and let him drive home.
If Geer had been a county politician or donor, or the neighborhood a very expensive one, would they have shot the man for moving his arm? Called talking at the screen door "barricading"? No.
We stand down all the time, at least here in WA. Just never makes the news. I've been on almost five years now and the only times I've forced entry are when we thought someone might be getting killed inside. For this? I actually had a similar call about three years ago.
Woman called about an argument with her husband, who lived in a camper in her driveway. Made some kind of vague threats and shut the door… and she said he had guns in the camper. When we got there, one guy talked to the woman while I stood next to him and watched the camper, about 20 feet away. The guy inside hated us. Started making vague threats at me, talking about his guns, about suicide by cop, about coming to find me off duty, and a bunch of other stuff I can't remember. Said more than once how he was going to "force my hand."
As he talked, he kept his hands out of view, below the window. Except, whenever he would say something threatening, he would raise his hands up and smirk at me. This went on for about fifteen minutes, during which I was convinced he was about to shoot me through the side of the camper, or whip his hands up into the window opening with a pistol and shoot me that way.
My gun never left the holster. We never approached the camper. Never called SWAT, we ran the call with only three guys. Why? Because there wasn't any crime.
Of course, a few weeks later he broke some of her bones and got tackled trying to run into the woods, Convicted of felony assault, I think. Never made the news, either. I guess it would have if we had screwed up like this.
Waco II?
Smaj November 9, 2013 At 04:31
Just another murder-by-cop in the new Amerika. A SWAT respone for a domestic dispute? It is quite evident that the police view and treat American citizens as the enemy.
GS650G November 9, 2013 At 08:29
"We're just here to help you — come out with your hands up,"
And prepare to meet your maker. Best not to be visible to the friendly SWAT team when talking to them.
SWAT teams here have looser rules of engagement than combat units in the sandbox.
Chris November 9, 2013 At 13:16
I bet his family sues the heck out of the city and gets a big settlement. If the police don't have a warrant he has every right to refuse them entry, and they can just sit outside until they obtain one. Their was no one in danger, let the guy sit inside by himself what is he going to do with all that firepower outside?
Also if they cops want to play military do it right, a .50BMG sniper rifle really? Someone watches to many movies and than goes and buys dumb toys. They need to upgrade to an RPG while they are at it, that would work about as well as a .50BMG in a subdivision!
Clearly no thought was given to how many innocent people they were going to grease if they let lose with all that firepower in a residential area. I guess they must have gotten their training from the NYPD! No one piles up bystanders like the NYPD!
Would the cops have gone in this loaded if it had been a male calling to say a female threw his clothes in the yard and "owned a gun"?
Mark November 10, 2013 At 06:09
Looks like a target lying in the grass doesn't it. Does anyone know where in Virginia this took place.
Seriously doubt that the trigger puller will be indicted/charged. It will be up to the family to seek retribution.