Update, June 6, 2009 – This post … well, it's garnered a bit of attention since I posted it about a week ago. I don't really know how people are finding it, but they're finding it. And to be blunt, not everyone's agreeing with what I wrote here. I won't rehash my opinion in this update; I already posted it in the comments among both agreeing and disagreeing responders. However, I'll approve any comment having merit while also not being insulting. So go right ahead and post your own opinion, negative or positive, on this particular restaurant. Y'll kinda have me curious now!
I've been avoiding posting this one. I don't like talking badly about restaurants. But this one has irritated me, and I have to explain why.
When you've driven extra miles, more than 150 miles one-way from the hotel you're staying at, to eat at a single restaurant that's in the middle of literally nothing, on a man-made island of a project once listed as one of the seven engineering wonders of the world by the American Society of Civil Engineers … wouldn't you expect to find the best Crab Cake Sandwich you've ever had, even if it was just for lunch?
I gotta tell you, I was sorely disappointed.
Granted, we weren't disappointed with the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel itself. And there are a couple other pics you have to see at the end of this post. But frankly, the Filet'o Fish at McDonald's is better than the crab cake sandwich you see here.
The $9.95 "Crab Cake Sandwich with french fries" at the Sea Gull Pier Restaurant on Island 1 of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel wasn't anything close to what I was expecting for either the price or the location. When the dish was delivered, it was exactly as it appears in the top photo; An overcooked (cooked at least twice the time it should have been) crab cake on an inexpensive (read, "cheap") bun with a portion dish of tarter sauce and some slightly soggy fries. Not even a slice of lettuce there to put on top of it. Definitely nothing close to what a good Chesapeake Bay crab cake should be, is supposed to be, is expected to be, etc., etc., ad nauseum.
My real problem with this isn't the dish itself. It's how that poorly-made dish relates to those miles driven. People consistently travel long distances to see the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel, to drive those 20 miles of pavement 20 feet over the waters at the mouth of the Chesapeake Bay, to get off on Island 1 to see the fishing pier, visit the gift shop and eat at the Sea Gull Pier Restaurant. I know because I lived in Norfolk for over three years, and two of my kids were born in the area. And this was still my first visit to this particular attraction and Engineering Wonder.
My real problem is that this sandwich, and anything else served at that particular restaurant, should solidly represent the seafood of the Chesapeake Bay. Unfortunately, it does not do so, not by a long shot. Honestly, when I bit into the sandwich it was ok, and I was instantly suspicious of the meat being a Chesapeake crab cake from Phillips, which is a wonderful product. If so, that would have been the sandwich's only saving grace, as Phillips is the way to go in many cases for decent seafood for this purpose. But even it it was, somebody had cooked the Hell out of it and served it up very amateurishly. The result was far from representative of what even that particular seafood supplier would want to see for that product.
This is my stepson Pfc. John Winckowski, USMC, and his mom, my lovely wife Mary, at our table in the Sea Gull Pier Restaurant. Memorial Day weekend with a U.S. Marine. Yeah, that's the ticket. 🙂 John loves watching the "engineering marvels" shows on various cable channels, so heading to the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel was something he'd looked forward to. I'm pretty sure he enjoyed the rest of our visit to that "enginering marvel".
John and Mary also posed for me at the overlook that looks to the west at the Chesapeake Bay at the far east end of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel.
And for those of you who are fishermen or fisherwomen who want to fish the Chesapeake Bay without a boat, here's a look at the fishing pier just outside the restaurant on Island 1.
But if you do fish off this pier, do yourself a favor; Pack a lunch.
Too bad you didn't check with the 'locals' first. Sea Gull Pier Restaurant (and, 'Restaurant' is a most generous description) is nothing but a tourist trap, and one of the more vile tourist traps in the area, in my opinion.
There are one hell of a lot more BAD crabcakes in the Chesapeake area than there are GOOD crabcakes.
Sorry you got ripped off.
Sorry you had such a bad experience at the restaurant. Chesapeake Bay seafood, when done right, should provide a much better experience. Take care.
DC, you have to remember I was a local once. But the point of the trip was to visit the bridge, so eating there was secondary. I'd have been more upset it if was the primary reason for going.
Wishbone, I love Chesapeake Bay seafood and have had a lot of the seafood there in both Maryland and Virginia. Evans Seafood, in southern Maryland, used to be one of my favorite seafood dives! I kinda miss it.
I must respond to this review and its comments. I travel extensively throughout the wonderful states of our country, but concentrate on the east coast area. I have eaten in every small town along the way, as well as five star restaurants. I have eaten at the "pier" and actually will drive 100 miles hungry to eat here. Its too bad you had a bad experience, and only one thing on the menu. I have had their wonderful flounder sandwich, which i challenge you to find a better one. It is very satisfying and huge. You fail to mention they have freshly made chicken salad, shrimp salad, freshly breaded oysters and scallops. There is a wide variety of items on the menu and i have tried most of them. Perhaps you should have tried your crab cake baked, after all it is very thick and to fry it means you have to cook it longer, to ensure it being done on the inside. Your attack of this restaurant is so over the top, one has to wonder if there is something personal going on here. I would suggest you try it again, because from my point of view, and many others I have spoken to, this little place is a "gem" in the middle of the chesapeake bay.(and i might add that the gift shop is not "a vile tourist trap", but a most delightful shop with some of the most unusual items i have ever found in a gift shop on a tourist stop.
Tell you what; John's assigned out that way for some time, so I'm sure we'll be back out on that bridge at some point. I'll take you at your word and try again. I'm not sure when that will happen, probably not for some months. But I will do so, particularly since a flounder sandwich sounds rather tasty!
Really, thanks for your response.
I am thinking that for every one comment like yours, there are twenty that are different. Still seems like you are beating them up. Just because you got a sandwich you didnt like you wonder about the kitchen? yours was but one opinion, so you didnt like it, how does your taste (or lack thereof) make you wonder what else might be "bad"? One bad sandwich should not make you question the integrity or consistency of a kitchen. You say my comment may be over the top, you went to great lengths to trash this place, my best instinct says this still may be personal. I hope you do try it again, i would love to see you "eat" your words..
Ok, here's the thing; I'm approving your comments because I feel you're entitled to your opinion. I won't stop approving them because that's still true, and I've certainly respected your opinion here. So, why have no respect for mine? I said I'd go back and I mean that. There's no need to be mean in return. I've cooked in kitchens, I know what it means to work with people in good restaurants who simply don't care about being consistent. But you asked me to go back there, and I will, out of respect for your opinion. Until I go back though, there's no way for me to do anything but agree to disagree with you. I hope that makes sense.
i couldn't resist adding my opinion regarding tha seagull pier: first i always find it to be a real feel good experience from tha moment i walk in tha door. i am greated warmly with genuine "hey, how ya doing, good to see you" just like i am family. tha staff desrves credit for their hospitality. as for tha food i find that so many places (mcdonalds, outback) all taste tha same which is good if your craving happens to be very specific. when you crave a warm friendly home-cooked meal which is not cookie-cutter pre-fixed but always delicious just open your mind and your taste buds to the seagull pier. they have in my 54 year old experience-eating opinion tha best chicken tenders, they beat the heck out of denny's / ihop for breakfast any time of day for price as well as taste, and everything else on tha menu. as for the crab cake sandwhich it never disappoints me. i don't eat the bread but tha cake is always good because it is tha way they make it. don't get me wrong cuz i love me some crab cakes from outback, but the tha true experience in enjoying a good meal starts when i enter tha door before i even order and their homecooked food really makes me feel like tha seagull pier is a dying experience that people discount because they are expecting everything to be tha same which we all know is boring so here is to that personnal spice of life tha seagull pier has to offer. thank you for providing me with some food for thought;getting hungry? i am and i'm heading for tha pier.
Well your opinion is just that, yours!! I have read the other thoughts of people and have to agree, crabcake is not my favorite from anywhere and fried seafood isn't either….but, that fried flounder sandwich is the BEST fried fish I have ever indulged myself with. So it is good to hear that you will try out the Seagull Peir Restaurant again and maybe your shared thoughts will come across differently!! Tahnks for your time.
Dave, obviously I do not need to tell YOU this, but for some other readers, it is very apparent that some serious shilling is going on here.
I mentioned your website while having a cigar and a drink at the Avalon's clubhouse this afternoon. We called up your site and projected it on the big screen.
The reactions from the group of folks at the luncheon (people who live, work, and dine in the Chesapeake area — and who have visited the SGP establishment) were unanimously supportive of your original assessment and resulted in laughter among the golfers who read the preceding comments.
YES, the power that "Google" has afforded some folks with a personal agenda is amazing.
Where most restaurants around the Chesapeake get in trouble is when the deviate from the classic recipe; lump crab, mayo, bread crumbs, salt and pepper, pan fried. When red pepper chunks, onions, celery, etc are added, it's no longer a crab cake.
Strangely, the absolute best crabcakes I have had year after year I discovered by accident. They are served at the Four Points Hotel at Baltimore Airport. I asked the manager once if the great taste was a fluke and he said "we've been using the same recipe for 37 years, and our chef knows how to pan fry (or broil if you prefer).
Ok I have to agree with you in part…their crab cakes were never that good, but their other food was wonderful. Sadly The Seagull Pier Restaurant has now been replaced with Virginia Originals and Chesapeake Grill. Now if you want to find a "vile Tourist trap" that is where you will find it. There food is nasty and its the same stuff you could get at any regular fast food restaurant. They are not prompt with service and they don't know what they are doing. True they are new but they should have worked out any bugs in their system before the 4th of July (which is when I ate there). I would advise that if you are heading to the Bay bridge and are hungry to not put much hope in getting a good meal at this restaurant.
I have to say something to this .. we travel between NJ and Va. because my son is stationed in Va. He is Navy man. We use to love stopping at the restaurant on the bridge..it was a nothing place with a sandwhich to die for.. Filet of flounder that left you dreaming of another .. and talking of the next trip to get another. One Sandwhich feeds 2..it was incredible . I even took a pic of it in front of hubby before we shared it. Last trip down it was closed..for renovations. This trip ..it was open. It should have stayed closed. Buffet breakfast?? Comeon… I want good fish when I am on the bridge.Not a fancy place with a whooptido gifty shop… I asked our waitress twice..is the fish sandwhich the same…she said "Yes it is just cut in half" twice. Hey, I have a pic of the original. Between 8 and 12 inches the pics use to advertise ..we got 2 pieces of BATTER fried Arthur Treachers or Long John Silvers fish. ( which would have been ok if I wanted that!) It was ok fish but not GREAT like they use to have. Batter fried? Come on .. I do know another place along 13 that we will stop at that has great fish and the BEST crabcakes we have ever had. It is also a little nothing place .. lol I will warn them not to change. I found out not all change is good. I have had my last stop at that place other than a bathroom stop.
Flo and Debra, thanks for the info. It looks as though the new place won't be redeeming this post anytime soon.
I just have a question…I will be heading down 13 again in a bout 2 months or so and I was wondering if anyone here knows of a good restaurant in the Virgina beach area that serves good food that is local to the area and not something that you can go to Arthur Treachers or Long John Silvers for? If so can you post the address or at least the full name of the restaurant. Thank you.
I see a lot of comments from people, who must live in Maryland, with their best crab cake resturants. I must throw, what i consider the best place in Va., in the mix. The place is Lowery's Seafood Restaurant located in Tappahannock Va. Its not cheap, but the best i've ever had.
We make the trip at least once a year from NC to NJ and the seagull was always a favorite for the unbeatable flounder sandwich,we were sad to see the place close for renovations because that always means its never as good as before.True to form after looking over themenu for the new place, as we thought,the flounder has been removed.I wonder how many other customers they lost by making the place new and so-called improved?
For a true Chesapeake Bay experience, I took out-of-town guests to the Seagull Pier Restaurant. (it costs $12 to get onto the bridge) As I expected, they enjoyed the pier itself. It was a lovely evening; the water was calm and there was a nice breeze. I'm a local and rarely cross the BBT but these guests were special and I heard that the restaurant had been renovated. I can't even express my embarrassment with the wait staff, the cold and lousy food, and the icing on the cake? …charged incorrectly. The waitress acted as though the manager did me a huge favor by correcting the check. Lesson learned here…next time we'll go elswhere, to a place I'm familiar with so I know I won't be humilitated!
I was not at all disappointed with this restaurant. I had the fried oysters and sweet potato fries and I think it was awesome. I went in April 2016 with two well-known locals and they visit this restaurant all the time. In fact their house overlooks the Chesapeake Bay Bridge. I bought several items in the gift-shop and was not disappointed in my purchases. I even bought myself a cup with Chesapeake Bay Bridge printed on it because I was so happy with my visit.
OK, I'm writing in late here to settle the score about something. First of all, I KNOW what a great flounder sandwich is, and I can tell you when I twice visited the Seagull Inn (PRIOR to it's reconstruction and then permanent closing , sadly enough) I had probably THE BEST FLOUNDER sandwich ever. This was properly breaded and was real flounder, could have easily made two delicious sandwiches from it. Then, I stopped by after the remodel and asked the waitress specifically if the flounder sandwich had changed and was told NO. I could tell immediately when it was served it was different. Never went back after and now it is all gone. It was very sad to hear of it's closing, especially just to accommodate more people traveling, as if we need more people crowding the roads.


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MOUNTAIN WATER CONDEMNATION VERDICT
Keila Szpaller
Jun 16, 2015 Updated Dec 1, 2016
Missoula Mayor John Engen and attorney Natasha Prinzing Jones held a news conference in City Council Chambers in June to talk about the decision in the Mountain Water Co. condemnation trial. Missoula County District Court Judge Karen Townsend ruled in favor of the city.
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Missoula attorney Natasha Prinzing Jones of Boone Karlberg answers questions from the media Tuesday morning.
People in the community will benefit in many ways with the city of Missoula in control of the local water utility, according to an order from Missoula County District Court.
"Under municipal ownership, important financial decisions regarding the Water System can be based on promoting public health, safety and welfare rather than on decisions regarding returns on investments for a large and growing utility conglomerate," wrote Judge Karen Townsend.
In April 2014, Mayor John Engen took the water company and global equity firm The Carlyle Group to court to force a sale of the utility to the city of Missoula. This week, the judge ruled the city has the right to buy the water company using its power of eminent domain.
In a news conference Tuesday, Engen said much work remains to be done, but he is pleased with the thoughtful and deliberate decision from the court and grateful for the support of the citizens of Missoula.
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"According to Judge Townsend's ruling ... the city now has proved its case on behalf of our current citizens and future generations, that public ownership of Missoula's water system is better for the community than private ownership," Engen said.
The most difficult part of the multimillion-dollar court proceeding was waiting for the verdict and enduring the 11 days of trial, the mayor said.
"The trial was very challenging, the intensity of the trial," Engen said. "(And) waiting for the decision, the uncertainty is very difficult."
At the news conference, a lawyer for the city encouraged every citizen to read the order to understand the judge's rationale. Natasha Prinzing Jones of Boone Karlberg said she believes the ruling is one that will withstand an appeal to the Montana Supreme Court.
"The people of Missoula deserve to control the destiny of their water supply," Jones said. "The evidence at trial proved that, under corporate ownership, the system has been losing more water to leakage than it delivers to customers.
"We are pleased that Judge Townsend determined the city is better suited to own the water system than an out-of-state or foreign conglomerate."
In the order, the judge found public ownership is "more necessary" than private ownership. She listed numerous benefits from city ownership, including stability of ownership, making public health a priority, local control, opportunities for public participation in decisions, opportunities for cost savings and "the city's ability to assure long-term access to a reliable, adequate supply of clean water for Missoula residents."
On Tuesday, a Carlyle spokesman declined to answer questions about the order or to address whether the firm planned to appeal. However, an attorney representing 39 Mountain Water Co. employees said he will appeal to the Montana Supreme Court.
Townsend's order addressed Carlyle's proposal to sell the Missoula company to the subsidiary of a Canadian company, the condition of the water pipes, public opinion, the potential for public participation in decisions about the water and the cost of private ownership to ratepayers.
In court, the city showed Mountain Water makes overhead payments to a corporate office in California, and the judge addressed the expense in the order.
"Mountain Water offered no testimony or evidence that the administrative services obtained from Park Water at the cost of over $2 million annually require unique qualifications or special expertise," the ruling said.
The judge also said the company that proposed to purchase Mountain, Liberty Utilities, offered no evidence those expenses would be reduced in the future. In fact, the order said, the Liberty president confirmed Mountain would be required to make the payments for "corporate oversight" if it succeeded in its purchase.
"(But) under municipal ownership, the Home Office Expense to a parent company would be eliminated, reducing the cost of administrative services supporting the Water System," the order said.
In a pending sale, Liberty offered to pay $327 million for Mountain Water and two other water companies, and Mountain argued the price would not affect the rates consumers pay. The judge disagreed.
"The Court does not find it credible that revenue requirements due to Liberty's acquisition costs will have no effect on rates," the order said.
On Tuesday, a Liberty spokeswoman did not address emailed questions about how the ruling would affect the company's proposal to purchase three water companies as a package from Carlyle.
In court, one of Mountain Water's star witnesses was Arthur Laffer, architect of the "Laffer Curve" and a chief economist for former President Ronald Reagan.
On the stand, Laffer testified public ownership was not necessary because Mountain Water had operated the utility "for a long time without major glitches." He also said water is not like other public services, such as fire and police.
Laffer noted his fee to testify was $1,500 an hour, or as much as $15,000 a day. The judge, however, found the witness's testimony "not well grounded in Montana law."
"Acquisition of a water supply system by a municipality is not limited to only those instances in which the private owner is failing," the order said. "In a condemnation proceeding, the Court is required to consider more than whether the Water System is 'broke.'
"Dr. Laffer described water as a 'product.' Dr. Laffer's testimony did not address the critical nature of water supply and its inextricable link to the public health, safety and well-being of the community."
On the other hand, the community of Missoula has long worked to protect public health and the environment, the judge said. "The importance of protection of natural resources for the benefit of the public is deeply embedded in Missoula's culture."
The judged noted the private ownership has resulted in a lack of adequate investment in pipes and equipment in Missoula and in dams in the Rattlesnake Valley.
"Overall, the Water System is aging and requires capital investment to remedy deferred maintenance of key assets," the order said. "Significant capital expenditures will be required in the future regardless of the identity of the owner of the Water System.
"Under Municipal ownership, long-term planning for maintenance and capital expenditures can occur under the management of a stable, long-term owner."
Under private ownership, control of water is moving further away from Missoula, the judge wrote.
"Ownership of the Water System by a private corporation separates the management and control of a vital natural resource from those most dependent upon it. Each transfer of ownership ... has further removed the management and control of the Water System to greater distances from those most dependent upon it," the order said.
However, the court praised the water company as a "good corporate citizen," and the judge acknowledged the "adamantly expressed opposition of employees to the prospect of becoming city employees."
"This is balanced by the equally strong theme of pride and dedication to customer service expressed by Employees throughout this proceeding. The dedication to customer service is consistent with recognition by water professionals that the reliable delivery of clean water is a necessity for life," the order said.
The judge also took public opinion into consideration, including testimony from Mayor Engen and council members and a public opinion poll. Mountain Water criticized the poll in court as an attempt to improperly influence the ruling, but the judge said the survey was "a reasonable method of measuring public support."
"The Court has not been improperly influenced by the poll or by any other extra-judicial means, including newspaper advertisements placed by Liberty prior to this proceeding," the order said.
At the news conference, Engen said he was surprised at the high level of support for public ownership, at some 70 percent in the poll. He also said he believed support for the acquisition only increased during the trial, months after the poll, as people learned about how profit motives shape policy for privately held utilities.
"I actually think that support grew and was galvanized during the course of the trial," Engen said.
In their remarks, the lawyers on behalf of the city of Missoula noted they are looking forward to finishing the work of acquiring the water utility. In a statement read by the mayor, lawyer Harry Schneider of Perkins Coie said his participation in the case was a privilege, and Jones agreed.
"I look forward to contributing what I can to completing our work and achieving for the city of Missoula what promises to be a lasting legacy of local ownership and control over their water," Schneider said in the statement.
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Terrorism too hard — let's chase photographers instead
This morning's Age has another story for the "it can't happen here – oops, yes it can" file. Members of the Geelong Camera Club have fallen foul of the police for taking photographs of industrial sites. Anyone who travelled (or even read travel stories) during the Cold War era will immediately recognise what's going on. […]
This morning's Age
has another story for the "it can't happen here – oops, yes it can"
file. Members of the Geelong Camera Club have fallen foul of the police
for taking photographs of industrial sites.
Anyone who travelled (or even read travel stories) during the Cold War
era will immediately recognise what's going on. Throughout the Soviet
bloc, as still in some of its remnants today, photography of anything
that could possibly be of military importance, including factories and
railway stations, was strictly prohibited. There are many stories of
unsuspecting tourists being arrested or having film confiscated.
Yesterday Moscow, today Geelong. The camera club's Hans Kawitzki
recalls what happened when he was photographing, from outside the
fence, "a cluster of spherical gas storage cylinders attached to the
Shell oil refinery":
"… the next thing a security guard arrived and demanded
to know what I was doing. I told him I was taking photos for a club
competition. He told me to stop and said he would record my number
plate.
"About an hour or so later, at home, two police came to my door. They
told me to stay away from industrial things and to let the camera club
members know they were to stay away from sensitive areas."
To clarify matters, the club asked for a list of installations that shouldn't be photographed, but, according to The Age,
"their request was refused on the grounds that such information was
secret." As the club's vice-president Frank Sady said, "If this is now
happening in Australia, it means the terrorists have won."
Victorian police minister Tim Holding tried to play down the incident,
acknowledging that "there was no law prohibiting people taking photos
in a public place." But the local police chief inspector was
unrepentant: "While they are not breaking any law, if you take photos
(of industry) in the current climate don't be surprised to be asked by
police why you are doing it."


Tony slipped into a seat and waited eagerly for the weekly Bible club to begin. He really enjoyed the club meetings. He liked the songs they were learning, and he looked forward to hearing the story his teacher would tell.
Song time was as good as usual, and then Mrs. Jackson got up to give the lesson. "Today we're going to talk about Jesus' disciples--the men He called to be with him while he was teaching here on earth," she began. "One of them is Andrew. And who do you think was the first person Andrew brought to Jesus?"
Several children raised their hands. "His best friend?" guessed Tony.
"Or maybe some guys who lived near him," suggested Travis.
Mrs. Jackson smiled. "I think Andrew probably told many of his friends and neighbors about Jesus," she replied, "and we certainly should do that, too. But let's not forget that there might be people in our own homes who needs Jesus. The very first person Andrew brought to Jesus was his brother Peter."
Tony squirmed and looked at the floor. His younger brother Jon had wanted to come along to Bible club, but Tony wouldn't let him. "I don't want you tagging along with me," Tony had grumbled, ignoring the tears forming in Jon's eyes.
The next week, Jon was amazed and delighted when Tony said, "It's time for Bible club. Do you want to go?" They hurried to Mrs. Jackson's home.
As Mrs. Jackson gave the lesson, she explained that everyone has sinned and only the blood of Jesus can wash sin away.
Jon fidgeted and whispered something to his brother. Tony nodded, and after club was dismissed, he took Jon to talk with the teacher. "Mrs. Jackson, my brother isn't a Christian, but he wants to become one," said Tony. "Can you tell him again how to do that?"
"I surely can!" exclaimed Mrs. Jackson.
As Tony and Jon walked back to their home, Jon looked up at his brother. "Can I go to Bible club with you again next week?" Jon asked.
"Sure," Tony replied. "From now on we're going to follow Jesus together, just like Andrew and Peter did." At Jon's puzzled look, Tony grinned. "I'll tell you about them," he said. "See, it's like this . . ."
Do you have relatives who don't know Jesus as Savior? Have you invited them to Sunday school or Bible club? Have you told them Jesus loves them and wants to save them from their sins? If you know Jesus, you should do all you can to bring others to Him. A good place to start is in your own home.
He (Andrew) first found his own brother Simon (Peter) . . . and he brought him to Jesus.
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Stimulating chamber works that incorporate the composer's interest in setting words, and electronic and digital technology.
Beth Wiemann was raised in Burlington, Vermont and studied composition and clarinet at Oberlin and Princeton University. She teaches composition and clarinet at the University of Maine, and splits her time between Maine and Massachusetts, where her husband, composer David Rakowski, teaches at Brandeis University. On this compilation of works for voice, clarinet, piano and electronics, Beth Wiemann brings together in compelling fashion three important facets of her life as a composer: a fascination with setting words, broad experience as an active performer of her own music and that of her colleagues, and an ongoing interest in the incorporation into her work of electronic and digital technology. Wiemann has been fascinated for years with the already heightened speech of poetry and its translation into the still more heightened speech of song. Among her earliest musical memories is that of hearing original cast recordings of Broadway musicals played in her home as a child. Unlike a number of composers of her generation, the Broadway idiom has exerted a far greater influence on her than later pop and rock styles, though not in an immediately obvious way. While genuinely admiring the craftsmanship of such composers for the stage as Gershwin, Kern, Porter, Rodgers, Bernstein and Sondheim, however, she has not sought to introduce superficial characteristics of their styles into her music in any literal sense. Instead, she has cultivated a harmonically subtle, more chromatic and less obviously tonally grounded pitch language. Her clearest connection with mid-twentieth century American musical theater is in her treatment of the declamation of the text. Consequently, from the songs recorded here to her recent opera, Deeds, her vocal compositions, like the best American popular songs, reflect a penchant for capturing the rhythms and nuances of vernacular speech. In keeping with that tendency, she is often drawn to poetry that is intimate and conversational in tone or concerned with aspects of everyday life. In travels to artists' colonies over the years she has had the good fortune to meet and befriend a number of poets, who often provide her with new material for musical setting. Most of this disc consists of selections from Weimann's collection Simple Songs, a project she began in 1990. Included are the first songs of the set, "No Moon, No Star" and "Night Thought." At the time of their composition, she was also engaged in setting them for women's chorus. She was prompted to make solo settings partly in response to a request from the soprano Karol Bennett for some songs to perform on a concert planned for the fall of 1990. Over time, Wiemann added other songs to the collection as she came across poetry that interested her. The latest song from the collection that appears on this disc is "Seamstress" composed in 2001.
Beth Wiemann, composer
Susan Narucki, soprano, Christopher Oldfather, piano
The Wind Shifts
A Dutch Courtyard
Beth Wiemann, bass clarinet
Museum Piece
No Moon, No Star
Poem and Postlude Revisited
A Fixture
Susan Narucki, soprano, Beth Wiemann, clarinet
Variations for Two Pianos
Christopher Oldfather, piano
Night Thought
Rustle
A Soul Selects
Four Ambitions
"I suspect many new music collectors will enjoy the high quality of composition, performance, and recording..." (American Record Guide)


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English Prof's Anti-Barbara Bush Twitter Tirade Triggers Right-Wing Snowflake Meltdown
by Stephen Lemonson April 20, 2018 April 25, 2018
Trigger warning: Fiction writer and Fresno State professor Randa Jarrar made few friends on Twitter when she blasted recently deceased Barbara Bush immediately after the announcement of the First Lady's death at age 92 (photo by Adela Santana; used with permission)
Randa Jarrar, a creative-writing professor at Fresno State University, called the late Barbara Bush an "amazing racist" on Twitter and reaped a right-wing whirlwind
Nowadays when you hear about intolerance for free speech on college campuses, the speaker coming in for the silencing treatment is somewhere to the right of center on the political spectrum and the muzzlers hail from the left. Not so this week, which saw a shrill tweetstorm from a university professor, followed by a prolonged series of calls for her head to be mounted on a pike at the school's gates.
The brouhaha was triggered by the death of Barbara Bush, who perished from congestive heart failure on April 17, at the enviable old age of 92. As obit writers dusted off their canned encomiums and misty remembrances to the matronly, pearl-swaddled Bush family "enforcer" flooded social media, Randa Jarrar, a novelist and tenured professor of English on leave from Fresno State University, took to her own keyboard.
"Barbara Bush was a generous and smart and amazing racist who, along with her husband, raised a war criminal," she tweeted not long after Bush's passing was announced. "Fuck outta here with your nice words."
Screenshot via archive.is
It was the "Call me Ishmael" of a veritable Moby-Dick of a Twitter tirade, a five-hour barrage during which the eccentric academic doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down on her loathing for the Bush clan and, for good measure, gave the virtual middle finger to the swarm of detractors who called her out (and then some) for daring to speak ill of the dead.
"PSA: either you are against these pieces of shit and their genocidal ways or you're part of the problem," Jarrar elaborated. "That's actually how simple this is. I'm happy the witch is dead. Can't wait for the rest of her family to fall to their demise the way 1.5 million Iraqis have."
Jarrar's background contains clues as to why she'd take such a dim view of the Bushes. Born in Chicago, she's an Arab American whose bio on the Penguin Random House website states that she "grew up in Kuwait and Egypt, and moved back to the U.S. at thirteen." According to a profile on the website of the Institute for Middle East Understanding, Jarrar is the child of an Egyptian-Greek mother and Palestinian father; she studied creative writing at Sarah Lawrence College and earned an MA in Middle Eastern Studies from the University of Texas at Austin and an MFA in Creative Writing from the University of Michigan. Jarrar's personal website includes a pageful of praise for her first book, the Arab-American coming-of-age novel A Map of Home and her debut short-story collection, Him, Me, Muhammad Ali, the latter of which a Los Angeles Times reviewer lauded last year as "sharp and irreverent, sometimes even unapologetically crude."
Perhaps not surprisingly, Jarrar's tantrum reaped a whirlwind of abuse — tweets calling her "Miss Piggy," a "nasty be'atch," and worse — and suggestions that Fresno State fire her.
Before making her account private late in the evening, Jarrar gave as good as she got, going so far as to invite her adversaries to take their complaints to Fresno State president Joseph Castro. "[S]weetie i work as a tenured professor," she taunted. "I make 100K a year doing that. I will never be fired. i will always have people wanting to hear what i have to say. even you are one of them! <3"
The online outrage over Jarrar's opinionating prompted university president Castro to issue a statement that night via the school's own Twitter account:
"On behalf of Fresno State, I extend my deepest condolences to the Bush family on the loss of our former First Lady, Barbara Bush.
"We share the deep concerns expressed by others over the personal comments made today by Professor Randa Jarrar, a professor in the English Department at Fresno State. Her statements were made as a private citizen, not as a representative of Fresno State.
"Professor Jarrar's expressed personal views and commentary are obviously contrary to the core values of our University, which include respect and empathy for individuals with divergent points of view, and a sincere commitment to mutual understanding and progress."
Statement by @Fresno_State President @JosephICastro regarding tweets made today by a faculty member: pic.twitter.com/h3ZbQyMmxd
— Fresno State (@Fresno_State) April 18, 2018
The next day, Fresno State provost Lynette Zelezny held a press conference to address l'affaire Jarrar, telling reporters that the school was taking the situation "very seriously" and that "the incident is under review." Zelezny noted that Jarrar wasn't teaching any courses this semester because she had previously requested a leave of absence.
One reporter asked whether Jarrar had been correct when she tweeted that as a tenured professor, she cannot be fired. Zelezny said this was incorrect, that there were certain procedures that have to be followed but that there are "situations where tenured faculty can be fired."
The Daily Wire gleefully pounced on that tidbit, calling it a "reality check" for Jarrar, while another right-leaning outlet, Fox News, exulted, "Barbara Bush-bashing professor can be fired despite tenure."
Fresno State appears to be bending to the pressure.
In an interview Thursday with a reporter from Fresno's ABC affiliate, Castro condemned Jarrar's remarks, stating, "This wasn't just a free-speech issue," and adding, "just because a person has tenure doesn't mean they can do or say whatever they wish."
Asked if the university was looking to suspend, terminate, or reprimand Jarrar, Castro replied, "All options are on the table."
Of course, as Adam Steinbaugh, an attorney with the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE), correctly observes in a post on the nonprofit's website, the university neither can (legally) nor should (ethically) punish Jarrar for her expressing her private points of view, because "public universities are government actors bound by the First Amendment."
Steinbaugh notes that employees of public universities enjoy broad free-speech rights:
"The law is well-established that employees of government institutions like [a public university] retain a First Amendment right to speak as private citizens on matters of public concern and may not be disciplined or retaliated against for their constitutionally protected expression unless the government employer demonstrates that the expression hindered "the effective and efficient fulfillment of its responsibilities to the public." Connick v. Myers, 461 U.S. 138, 150 (1983); Pickering v. Bd. of Ed., 391 U.S. 563 (1968)."
In response to Castro's suggestion that Jarrar could be sacked or otherwise disciplined, FIRE, the ACLU of Northern California, and other advocacy groups coauthored a letter advising the university president that Jarrar's speech is "protected by the First Amendment and the free speech clause of the California Constitution." The letter called on Fresno State to immediately "end its investigation of Jarrar," because the probe "impermissibly chills the expressive rights of faculty."
Others have come to Jarrar's defense.
Novelist Laila Lalami tweeted that "[i]n calling Barbara Bush 'a racist,' @randajarrar said bluntly what newspaper obituaries disguised when they wrote that Mrs. Bush was 'never shy about expressing her views,' or that, in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, her 'candor got her into trouble.'"
In calling Barbara Bush "a racist," @randajarrar said bluntly what newspaper obituaries disguised when they wrote that Mrs. Bush was "never shy about expressing her views," or that, in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, her "candor got her into trouble."
— Laila Lalami (@LailaLalami) April 19, 2018
Wrote Twitter user Jean Chen Ho, a writer pursuing her Ph.D. at the University of Southern California: "Hey remember when Barbara Bush said on the radio that the people displaced by Hurricane Katrina were already 'underprivileged anyway' so the evacuation camp in the Astrodome was 'working very well for them'? I do. Power to @randajarrar for accurately describing Bush as a racist."
And Reason.com contributing editor Robby Soave called out the "hypocrisy on the right" over Jarrar's anti-Bush diatribe. Allowing that the "Can't wait for the rest of her family to fall to their demise the way 1.5 million Iraqis have" bit was a "loathsome thing to say," Soave went on to call out the Daily Wire in particular:
"It is incredibly hypocritical for The Daily Wire to encourage a university to fire a professor for saying something nasty and politically incorrect," wrote Soave. "In the past, [Daily Wire-founder and editor-in-chief Ben] Shapiro has rightly called out universities for catering to easily offended students and disinviting controversial speakers. Shapiro himself has occasionally faced angry campus mobs who wish to censor him. But if the offending party is a far-left professor and the offended party is conservatives everywhere, PC censorship is suddenly just fine?"
(Shapiro eventually did chime in with an opinion piece in which he called Jarrar's outburst "gross" and "atrocious" but conceded that "dumping her over a nasty tweet about Barbara Bush is beyond the scope of the First Amendment.")
All that said, one element of Jarrar's tweetfest might provide grounds for her employer to discipline her.
In response to an antagonist who tweeted out her office telephone number, Jarrar shot back that she'd never activated that line. She provided another phone number — which turned out to be that of a crisis hotline at Arizona State University.
In his cogent analysis on the free-speech blog Popehat.com, Ken White wrote that "to justify firing someone like Professor Jarrar, a state school would need to demonstrate that her speech caused rather substantial disruption of education."
In that regard, White asserted, "Professor Jarrar may have made it easy for them" by posting the ASU crisis line as if it were her own phone number.
And that's no joke. According to a story in the Arizona Republic, the ASU hotline, which typically receives about five calls per week, was getting more than ten times that number per hour on the day after Jarrar posted its phone number. The story said the school asserted that "it doesn't believe any people who needed the phone service were affected."
Still, according to White, "Causing [a] school's suicide hotline to be flooded with troll phone calls presents a very arguable case for substantial disruption, depending on the evidence."
Added White: "If you think that this structure creates an incentive to react disruptively to speech, in order to supply a basis for a professor to be fired, you'd be right. If you think that schools might lie about the amount of disruption, you'd be right."
His conclusion: "Professor Jarrar was speaking as a private individual on a matter of public interest. It would be difficult for Fresno State to establish that the tweets about Barbara Bush themselves caused the sort of disruption of the school's business that so outweighs her free speech interests so that it would justify her termination. However, her tweet directing people to [a] suicide hotline presents a substantially stronger case for disciplinary action."
Update April 25, 2018: In a significant win for freedom of speech, Fresno State President Joseph Castro issued a statement late Tuesday, saying that the university had concluded its review of Jarrar's Tweets, and found that they were protected by the First Amendment.
The statement reads, in part:
"[We] have concluded that Professor Jarrar did not violate any CSU or university policies and that she was acting in a private capacity and speaking about a public matter on her personal Twitter account. Her comments, although disgraceful, are protected free speech under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. Additionally, although Professor Jarrar used tenure to defend her behavior, this private action is an issue of free speech and not related to her job or tenure. Therefore, the university does not have justification to support taking any disciplinary action."
In an interview with thecut.com that ran just before Castro's decision was made public, Jarrar defended her Tweets regarding late, former First Lady, insisting that she had a moral obligation to make her views known.
"I felt compelled to speak up because I want people to remember history. I want people to know that our country's actions don't just disappear; they have real, negative consequences," she explained. "If we want a better future, we have to confront our past."
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After Qatar, Iran Summons Indian envoy over remarks on prophet
Posted on June 6, 2022 June 6, 2022 Author Khas Khabar Comments Off on After Qatar, Iran Summons Indian envoy over remarks on prophet
The Nupur Sharma statement on Prohet Mohammed had garnered international anger and resentment, as authorities in Iran & West Asian countries have summoned the envoy from India to lodge complaint.
The latest to join the wagon is Iran. Local media reported that Iran's Ministry of Foreign Affairs has summoned the Indian ambassador to Tehran over what state media called "insult against Prophet of Islam in an Indian TV show".
Here are 10 big points to this Iran story
-Ahead of the Iran Foreign Minister's first-ever trip to Delhi next week, The Indian envoy to Iran was summoned over what state media called "insult against Prophet of Islam in an Indian TV show"
-The Indian envoy expressed "expressed regret & said any insult against Prophet of Islam is unacceptable & this doesn't reflect the position of Indian government, which has shown utmost respect for all religions." The envoy further mentioned that Nupur had been suspended from the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and that she held no governmental position in India, after he received the "Iranian nation and government's protest over the insulting remarks"
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The State of Kuwait also summoned the Indian Ambassador to Kuwait on June 5 to express absolute contempt and lodge an official letter of complaint against Nupur Sharma
-Earlier, Qatar foreign ministry summoned Indian ambassador Deepak Mittal and handed him an official note, expressing disappointment and total rejection and condemnation of controversial remarks made against Prophet Mohammed by BJP officials Nupur Sharma and Naveen Jindal
-India replied to Qatar that controversial remarks against minorities are views of fringe elements and not the of the Government. "In line with our civilizational heritage and strong cultural traditions of unity in diversity, the Government of India accords the highest respect to all religions. Strong action has already been taken against those who made derogatory remarks," said the spokesperson of the Embassy of India in Qatar.
BJP suspended spokespersons Nupur Sharma and Naveen Jindal from the party's primary membership following their controversial remarks
-Jindal, who heads BJP's Delhi media, had posted a tweet about the Prophet, but later deleted it. The BJP in its order said that his views on social media vitiate communal harmony and are in violation of its fundamental beliefs.
-BJP earlier in the day issued a statement, asserting that it respects all religions and strongly denounces insults of any religious personality
-Later, Nupur Sharma issued an apology for her statement. "I have been attending TV debates for the past many days where our Mahadev was being insulted and disrespected continuously. It was mockingly being said that it is not Shivling but a fountain. The Shivling was also being ridiculed by comparing it to roadside signs and poles in Delhi," BJP leader Nupur Sharma's statement says.
I could not tolerate this continuous insult and disrespect toward our Mahadev and I said some things in response to it. If my words have caused discomfort or hurt religious feelings of anyone whatsoever, I hereby unconditionally withdraw my statement. It was never my intention to hurt anyone's religious feelings." she said.
–Clashes had broken out in Pared, Nai Sadak and Yateemkhana areas of Kanpur after Friday prayers when some people tried to force shopkeepers to down shutters over Sharma's remarks. At least 40 people, including 20 police personnel, were injured during the incident.
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Hours after an explosion – in a bustling street of Turkey's Istanbul – killed at least six people, a bombing suspect has been arrested. Turkey's interior minister Suleyman Soylu on Monday said the person is believed to have planted the bomb, according to state-run Anadolu agency. Soylu accused the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) of causing the bomb […]
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L'Ecole Inner-Way est une Ecole ouverte pour l'étude et le développement du Tai Chi taoïste originel. Elle veut accueillir des pratiquants d'horizons et de milieux le plus divers possibles ayant pour lien commun l'envie sincère de pratiquer et d'apprendre l'art du Tai Chi tel qu'il a été créé à l'origine: ni comme une gymnastique, ni comme un art du combat, ni même comme une techniques de santé corporelle-énergétique, mais comme une Voie de développement intégral incluant tout ces aspects et au-delà.
What is Tai Chi – Tai Ji ?
Tai Chi is a Taoist art. Taking the external form of a martial art and producing a positive side effect of increased bodily health, its ultimate aim is the inner development of the individual.
The martial aspect of the art is only present to provide a playground where the different aspects of human beings – physical, emotional, and spiritual – can practice, learn, and develop. Winning or losing is of no importance here. Personal growth and pushing our inner limits are the only thing to overcome by ourselves and for ourselves. The essence of the teaching of Tai Chi is the expression of Taoism teaching.
The practice of Tai Chi is integrated one step after another in the daily of the practionner at his own pace, as the integration of Taoist principles deepens. The study and exploration of Tai Chi are considered like a very long journey whose goal is the journey in itself. An adventure within ourself.
Inner-Way's pages attempt to introduce my present and still evoluting understanding of Taoïst Tai Chi, to expose what we attempt to do and to explain the reasons and origins.


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What is a consultant?
What does a consultant do?
Types of consultants
Am I a consultant?
Consulting segment?
Which consulting firm?
Working in consultancy
Salary of consultants
Secondary benefits
For professionals working in the professional services, the terms 'consultant' and advisor' are often used interchangeably. What exactly do these terms mean? Consultancy.eu zooms in on this field to get a closer look at the origins of the consulting industry, and also provides insights into the main features of consultancy and the ecosystem in which consultants operate.
Consulting is defined as the practise of providing a third party with expertise on a matter in exchange for a fee. The service may involve either advisory or implementation services. For the consultant, taking an independent and unbiased stance on an issue is central to his/her role. A consultant can, in principle, service any sector. Over the past few decades, however, the term has become synonymous with business advisory – which focuses mostly on business strategy, management, organisation, operational processes and technology.
The history of the consulting industry commences in the late nineteenth century with the founding of the world's first modern consulting organisations, also known as business advisory firms. In the early days of the consulting industry (starting in the US and later crossing over to Europe and the rest of the world) the first consultancies focused their advisory services mainly on solving technical and financial concerns. Today, there are over 460 consulting firms in South Africa, employing 20,000 people, and generating approximately R15 billion, which amounts to 2% of the GDP. These firms offer all sorts of different services, spanning across countless fields, disciplines and sectors.
Consultants' right to exist
What do consulting firms base their right to exist on? One key feature of the industry is the so-called 'knowledge advantage' that consultancy firms hold in relation to their clients. Consultancy firms are hired to help their clients with a dilemma, for which specialist expertise or knowledge is needed which is otherwise lacking on the clients' end. Another feature is that consultancy firms form an independent party, which can give the clients an objective perspective on the problems that their organisation struggles with, and can offer them solutions toward the problem. Involving a consultancy firm can also, in some cases, be more cost effective than if an organisation were to hire experts themselves. Furthermore, an organisation often simply does not have sufficient capacity to manage its change portfolio, which can be done by hiring an external consultancy firm instead.
Professionals working within the consultancy industry are generally called 'consultant' or 'advisor'. Often, specific titles are used referring to their knowledge of a certain advisory area or their respective sector of expertise (e.g. strategy consultant, healthcare consultant, procurement consultant, etc.)
Even though the term consultant is not a protected title – in essence anyone could ascribe themselves the title of consultant from one day to the next – the consultants active within the industry are mostly highly educated professionals. They have gained their expertise in a particular field, or within a specific sector, after years of studying, training as well as by building work experience. From within their organisation, consultants are deemed to work with a professional demeanour, holding the right qualifications and capable of providing a high standard of service to clients. Consultants can work at a consultancy firm, operate as an independent consultant (freelance), or work as a consultant within an organisation outside the consulting industry ('internal consultant').
The consulting industry consists of six main functional areas: Strategy Consulting, Management Consulting, Operations Consulting, HR Consulting, Financial Advisory and IT Consulting. In total, these six advisory areas combine with other service areas to create more than 200 different fields of expertise and propositions.
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