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Essence Relationships
Child abuse: Karma or Agreements?
By Kasia
[Excerpt from Michael Speaks: January 2001]
[ludmila] There has been much talk lately about child-abuse. What kind of karma or agreements is involved in this? Specifically sexual abuse of children by adult authority figures
MEntity:
Child abuse is not a standardized event. There are many factors that may be involved in the experience of abuse, whether between adult and child, human and non-human, etc. Karma is either created or is being balanced, though it is very rare for an Agreement to be involved, except in the Old and Mature Soul Cycles. Abuse when linked to an Agreement is specifically, then, related to the imprinting required for the fulfillment of the Life Task. Whether the abuse is "used" effectively as a tool in that process will rely on the fragment and the use of the Overleaves, in general.
Abuse in relation to "Authority Figures" and children is not a category anymore than abuse from a stranger harassing a child on the playground. There are no definitions or differentiations that can create categories of abuse except in "styles" of abuse. We will say, however, that those who have experienced abuse as children at the hands of Authority Figures (assuming it is not a Karmic Formation), are generally balancing Karma related to Positions of Authority where Abuse was inflicted by "themselves." As with all Burning of Ribbons, the Karmic situation is usually, simply, reversed.
We do not know if we have addressed the deeper issues of concern or question here, but we have answered the question as stated, as clearly as we can.
[mamajo] How can one tell when Karma is being created, and when it is an agreement to facilitate imprinting?
Any formation/burning of Karma interrupts and distracts the life in a deeply affecting way. Karmic Formation can usually be identified as lacking compulsion to be involved, but there is an element of shock and chaos. Karmic Burning of Ribbons is usually marked by a compulsion to remain involved far past logic and emotion and body would dictate otherwise, followed by a great relief when the Karma is burned. In the event of the Burning, much of what was so compelling is then seen in a bewildering light, as if you were in a trance the whole time.
In terms of facilitating Imprinting, the fragment being abused usually has a "bizarre" sense of safety and peace throughout the events. There is a creation of a strong support group outside of the event, in many of these cases, which are rare, as we said. The abuse as imprinting is heavily marked by this use of the experience as a platform for a greater vision or affect on the life in a discernible way, without referencing the abuse in a negative way.
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20080608 Michael Speaks: June 2008
By Janet
This session took place on June 8, 2008.
[Michael Entity] Hello to everyone. We are here.
[QUESTION] I see a lot of folks who have bad dreams in my work and have found that while interpretation can be useful, people often find relief just by imagining a better ending for the dream. I don't remember where I learned that (maybe from you?). Anyway it seems to bring relief from nightmares. What is the mechanism by which this works? is it just that I say it will and people believe me? Or is it something astral? or simply the subconscious mind doing its thing? All that seems to be required is a good imagination and being in "alpha" waves.
[Michael Entity]
There is a level of dreaming that is primarily symbolic and these dreams are where issues from the waking life are being processed or examined. It does not require a fragment to be asleep for those symbols to be meaningful, but the symbols that are recalled from the dream are often the most directly-significant to the issues. For most fragments, the dream state can help resolve these issues being played out symbolically. This symbolic level of dreaming is very similar to how fragments experience and interact on the Astral Plane anyway, but for those fragments who have not resolved the issues being played out in symbolic dreaming, then bringing in the consciousness of the waking personality can help break the worrying cycle that has led to what some describe as "nightmares." This method of resolution is a natural strength for most fragments, which is why it so naturally occurs during sleep where the Personality dissolves to its default nature of strengths and weaknesses. Nearly all fragments assign symbolism to emotional, intellectual, spiritual, and physical elements of the life, though this symbolism is often lost to the conscious personality (waking state). When you, QUESTIONER, direct a fragment to use those symbols and experiences from the dream in a conscious way to bring about a break in the cycle and to direct toward resolution, it is not only resolving the issue in many ways, but bringing about an alignment between the conscious and subconscious selves.
This same method can be used for those who are not having nightmares or remembering dreams:
Examining an issue within the waking state and breaking it down into symbolism, then manipulating those symbols into a way that brings about a sense of direction, closure, or change can help implement those very things in the reality.
For instance, a fragment may be feeling obstacles or patterns that keep him or her locked into poverty or survival modes. This fragment might choose a symbol to represent himself and the obstacles or patterns, adding in a current idea of a solution, and manipulate these into a way that displays a symbolic solution. Keeping that symbolic sense of solution at hand, in mind, heart, or even visually depicted (drawn out), can help to break the current symbolic pattern.
[QUESTIONER] cool! bypasses the intellect setting up barriers I would think
[Michael Entity] Your assessment is valid, for it is the Intellect that often keeps movement locked into an undesirable pattern. This is by no means true in all situations, but in many, it is.
[QUESTION] Could you give an example of this conscious working with symbols such as the poverty or survival mode idea?
Questioner, the symbolism would have to be specific to the individual, so our example will not be universal.
For instance, one example might be a CAT to represent the individual, a BALL INSIDE A CIRCULAR TUBED TRACK with just a bit of a slit along the inside ring of the tube for reaching at the ball, to represent the pattern/obstacle. The current situation has the cat swatting at the ball over and over and often in a frenzy while the ball is forever locked inside that circular track. No amount of swatting or maneuvering is going to change this ball's circular roll within the tubed track.
This person might then change the pattern by realizing that the symbolic pattern of the ball in the track means that everything about what the cat is doing is never going to get anywhere beyond chasing current ideas, actions, and feelings in circles.
This situation would either require intervention (maybe a human to come along and break open the track to get to the ball) or to simply walk away to a completely new adventure. For the sake of this example, it might seem to be the most directly implementable action to simply walk away from the current ideas and actions. This person might then imagine the cat walking away wistfully and finding a small tree with accessible branches bearing dollar bills, all dangling in the wind. The cat is seen as having an hilarious and playful time jumping and swatting at the branches and knocking down the dollar bills into a pile.
This person, then, might keep that image in mind when he or she begins to feel trapped again within patterns that are obviously not working so that he or she can be open to other, more accessible, inputs and possibilities within the reality.
Keep in mind that these symbolic plays are NOT the solution in themselves, but are symbolic shifts toward internal solutions or breaks from patterns in how one is perceiving and interpreting reality, which is then a powerful step toward finding and creating external "real life" solutions and breaks.
We would also suggest examining why this person might have chosen himself to be symbolized by a CAT, looking at all that a cat means to that person and applying that insight as a way to discover how he or she sees the self in relation to the issue.
We will point out here that this topic could be an entire discussion in itself and one that might be worth examining in the future.
[QUESTION] What is meditation? Is it just silencing the internal chattering, or is something else involved? I recently had some personal advice in meditation from Michael, but trying to follow it, I started wondering what meditation actually is.
From our perspective, "meditation" is a word to describe the work through a triad that leads to adaptable balancing among all centers. This triad could be described as: EXAMINATION, IMPLEMENTATION, REALIZATION. We will describe this in detail now.
First, a fragment would Examine the life to determine which Center is seeming least used, least effective, least understood, etc. For simplistic purposes, we will contain this to the 3 Primary Centers. So if one were to see that the MOVING Center is being used the least, or is the least effective, then this would determine the direction of IMPLEMENTATION. This would mean that your "meditation" would be of a Moving-Centered sort. Stillness or stereotypical concepts of "meditation" would not work for this fragment. This fragment could then Implement a moving meditation into his or her days. This moving meditation could be anything that includes the body and movement, which means that meditation could be anything from exercise to dancing to simple movements of the body while seated. Once a method has been Implemented, then the practice of this on a regular basis will lead to REALIZATION, which simply describes the effect of that particular meditation. In this case, a balance within the self that has taught the body how to call upon its moving center in a more effective way. The Implementation stage is the most important stage as it requires some amount of commitment for Realization to come about. The entirety of the experience from Examination to Implementation to Realization is "meditation." In other words, Meditation is not simply a separation from your routines (examination), nor is it simply the clear focus of intent during parts of your day (implementation), nor is it just the benefits on the other side of implementation (realization). It is a triad of effort.
[QUESTION] what would be an example of using Emotional as the Center for Implementation?
[Michael Entity] Listening to music that stimulates the emotions could be good for some fragments, while watching dramatic movies could be good for others; still others might find a walk through beautiful environments to be a means for implementing Emotional; exploring art could be another example for some.
[QUESTION] So it doesn't matter if I think of this and that during implementation, as long as I move?
[Michael Entity] The more consciousness one can direct toward that which is being implemented, the greater the Realization. So if one is implementing Movement, one can think and feel whatever one wishes, but allow the consciousness to fully embrace the body, the sensations, the experience of the movement as clearly as possible. It cannot hurt to be as focused as one can be on the implementation, but it is not necessary to block other natural elements within you.
[QUESTIONER] I thought so
Those who experience the Realization will find that one can think, feel, and act in a way that each does not overshadow or block the other.
This is another topic worth exploring, if our students wished.
[QUESTION] I want to know about the 4th internal monad and how one would know if they were on the way to manifesting their true personality
The easiest way one can gauge whether one is moving forward through the 4th Internal Monad in a way that is a positive transition, or to gauge whether one has completed a 4th Internal Monad in a way that was in the Positive Pole, is to ask one, simple question:
DO I LIKE ME?
To the degree that a fragment can honestly say that he or she likes himself or herself, is the degree to which the 4th Internal Monad is being completed, or has been completed, in the Positive Pole.
The Positive Pole of the entire 4th Internal Monad is Self-Realization, which is the experience of being present with who you are and generally liking who you are. The Negative Pole is Acquiescence, which is the feeling of being forced or succumbing to "who you are," and not really liking who that is.
In short, if you can answer the question DO I LIKE ME? with an answer of "yes" to any degree, then you are generally manifesting True Personality to that degree.
[QUESTION] There are different "schools" teaching how to do psychic readings/how to read energy fields/do energy work. When doing a reading it's sometimes being used different energy techniques for different issues coming up in a reading. For instance: 1.Create and destroy, 2.Removing fear energies, 3.Delete programming, 4.Erasure and 5.Astral healing. If possible I would like Michael make a comment on the use of these techniques and the fact that some of these schools, even today, try to keep some secrecy around the energy techniques.
Many "schools" who claim secrecy over their techniques are run by, and determined by, Baby Souls. The techniques involved would be beneficial to other Baby Souls, and to some Young Souls, but probably quite ineffective for Mature or Older Souls to use. This is because the techniques and beliefs that make these work are mythological and superstitiously rooted. If one can adapt these Baby Soul concepts into a more mature language and method, then the schooling might not be lost on the Mature or Older soul, but this would have to be kept in mind along the way. For instance, the idea that one can heal another is a Baby Soul concept, but the reality that one can help another to heal himself is a Mature concept. Even on the most physical of levels of intervention, a physical doctor can only do so much in treating a fragment and the fragment "being healed" must ultimately do the healing. Tending, or intervening the impact of wounds is one thing; but healing is always a personal matter.
The older souls know this.
We mention this as an example because many of the more secretive techniques and schoolings teach as an undercurrent a kind of power over others (whether for "good" or "bad,") and this ultimate power is simply not valid.
If your technique for healing is considerate of the dynamic that needs to be in place between healer and wounded, with an holistic awareness, then the technique would be the most effective and valid. Techniques that leave out the choice of another tend to lead to Karma.
[QUESTION] I have recently been involved in discussions with a few of my friends regarding political and governmental systems regarding which are the most effective. My friends would gladly describe themselves as "libertarian" whereas I cannot completely proscribe to such an ideology, if only because their description of "libertarianism" seems to give too much authority to the private sector and private interests; of which I am not entirely comfortable. They would likely label me as "socialist" or as "bleeding heart liberal" if they didn't know me better! I guess the questions are: Is there or are there ideal governmental system(s) or ideology for the current average soul age we are in currently, based on what Michael has perceived from other sentient beings? What do these systems look like? Perhaps what the United States and the rest of the world is currently experiencing in their governments are pretty typical for our current soul age development? That would be my perception at least. Also, what do typical governments look like on worlds that have a majority of old souls? Or do they even have governments?
[Michael Entity] The politics of any given region or period of time usually describe the friction between the approaching paradigm and the current paradigm, each respectively defined by the approaching dominant Soul Age and the current dominant Soul Age. Many of the names assigned to the varying "parties" are tedious and unnecessary, so we will speak in broader terms here.
NOTE FROM TROY: Some editing was done from the original text as I asked Michael for clarifications and questioned a couple of the original details. Also, the true definitions and delineations for all of the political/governmental systems can really get complicated, so Michael's response seems to be exactly what they've said, a "broader" perspective, at best. They did explain to me that there are really only three political systems, but a multitude of systems within those systems.
It could be said that the following political systems are associated in this way:
Infant Souls have no politics or order, and are therefore at the mercy of whatever dominant political system is in place at the time. However, they may be most comfortable with Dictatorship, which would be implemented by Baby Souls.
The Baby/Young politics have shown up as Dictatorship, Capitalism, and Socialism.
The Young/Mature politics have shown up as Monarchy, Republic, Socialism, and Communism.
The Mature/Old politics have shown up as Monarchy, Democracy, and Anarchy.
Old Soul politics return to a state of no politics, but more of what might be considered Anarchy. We use the word "anarchy" in its true definition, not as the Young or Mature soul might exploit the term. The anarchy usually takes on a form that would be recognized as Tribalism.
In response to your questions:
We would say that the politics of your current world are exactly indicative of the shifts from the dominant paradigm/soul age to another.
From what we can see of other populations dominated by Old Soul Ages and paradigms, there are no governments that you would recognize beyond being more tribal groups in communication and exchange with one another, but with no discernible leader or authority.
This is one of the reasons our teaching is particularly attractive to the older soul, since there is no discernible authority beyond the self, and even the sense of self is held in question to a degree that allows for sensitive consideration of all factors involved in the life.
An Old Soul world is similar.
[QUESTION] I realize my background in government is obviously lacking when I ask this question, but: Is there any distinguishable difference between a democracy and a republic according to Michael's perception? By including both, it seems to be implied that there is a difference.
We differentiate a Republic from a Democracy in that a Republic has a more specifically-defined body of qualified voters or elected representatives, while a Democracy seeks to include all people, even those who might not be obviously qualified. The concept of Democracy can get confusing in some cultures such as in the United States because several forms of government are in place. Rather than a pure Democracy, the United States is far more accurately described as a Republic, which is a form of Democracy, but not true Democracy. In addition to this, the general promotion of Democracy is run from an Authoritarian perspective, or as a Plutocracy, to be specific. It could be said that the Physical economy of the United States is run by Plutocratic (authoritarian) politics, while the Emotional economy is run by Republican (Democratic) methods, and this is to be considered when looking at politics. There are Physical, Emotional, Intellectual, and Spiritual levels of Politics and Economy to consider in any system.
The closest to an old soul political system that exists in your world today is what is experienced as "the Internet."
[QUESTION] How are the Internet and politics related?
If "politics" is seen as a term to describe how a body of people govern themselves and resolve apparent conflicts, then the Internet could be seen as a system of politics. In this case, as would be the case for the Old Soul world, COMMUNICATION would be at the core of those politics, or the INTELLECT as economy.
The Infant Soul uses Freedom; the Baby Soul uses Authority; the Young Soul uses Capital; the Mature Soul uses Well-Being; and the Old Soul uses Communication at the root of their politics.
The "ultimate" political system, in the end, will have to utilize all of these factors to govern a mix of soul ages. Hence, the politics of a Democracy or a Republic will include previous political emphases to some degree, but with the more current politics being the emphasis.
[QUESTION] And so, just as we are doing here in this chat, everyone determines for themselves, and then relates to the outside world through communication. but as an autonomous being similarly engaged with other autonomous beings/people? Something like this?
We think we have understood your question and we would agree. It could be said then that the politics of the Old Soul are CONTEXTUAL. Certain politics apply within specific instances, but are not seen as appropriate across the board. And each person determines his or her level of compliance within certain contexts, or freely moves to more appropriate contexts.
We realize this is far from being deeply explored, but we will move on now.
[QUESTION] Since we acquire new bodies each lifetime, why do we still carry "memories" of injuries from past lives into new lifetimes? How does this work? For ex. my back pain has been channeled as being from an injury from a past life that I am working out.
One only carries "memories" of injuries into a current life when those injuries or memories are relevant to the current life. They are never random, and never literal. For instance, your back pain is a manifestation of similar patterns being explored within this lifetime that are resonant to other lifetimes of similar exploration. It is not that the injury was literally carried over, but that you are doing similar things in a similar way that then resonate to that other lifetime. That resonance can help in healing the current injury only insofar as insights can be gained from experiences integrated by your Essence from that lifetime. The resonance to the other lifetime is not to give justification or distraction from your current ailments, but to allow a means of direct access to the wisdom stored by Essence from that lifetime.
If one can imagine one lifetime as one point on a line, while another lifetime is another point at a distance on that line, and then imagine a line being drawn from one lifetime to another, that line CANNOT be "drawn" without first creating an arc through Essence, which is "above the line." Often Personality can relate to other Personalities before it can relate to Essence, so it "remembers" (or receives through a channel) the reference to another lifetime of similarity, but this is merely a method for indirectly accessing Essence. Keeping that in mind can help the point of that remembering and resonance.
However, to be more specific in response to your question, it is not the injury that carries over, nor the memory, but the PATTERNS that are stored in your Instinctive Center, which is pulled from one lifetime and then "inserted" into another lifetime. This is not a literal event, but the image is helpful. It can also hep to think of it as a program, or a collection of programs/software that is now available to the new personality. Depending on the choices of the current personality, certain programs/software/patterns will emerge for use, and many will not.
In your case, QUESTIONER, you have called upon a theme of self-esteem issues, and these issues are often ignored or overridden on the emotional or intellectual levels to a degree that physical manifestation helps in tending to that theme of issues. You will then find resonance to lifetimes where a similar physical injury or ailment was being explored for similar reasons.
[QUESTION] Could Michael suggest some energy-work on such an issue?
The "energy work" for any given ailment would have to be relative to the ailment and the individual, but we can say that any chronic aching that is related to self-esteem issues would require "energy work" on the Emotional Body as a focal point, while emphasis of RELIEF on the Physical Body will help in allowing that focus. This energy work on the Emotional Body might be anything from cathartic expression to gestalt therapies to flotation therapies to singing therapies to permission therapies that allow for more of what one craves, etc.
We wish to point out here that the patterns carried over from one lifetime to another are only brought into reality by the choices of the current personality. For instance, there have have been lifetimes for the Questioner that have been lived between the past life back injury and the back injury of this lifetime. Back pain was not an issue in those lifetimes between.
A more poetic way to understand this might be that the songs heard from other lifetimes depends on the melodies played by this one.
[QUESTION] I would like more information on the upcoming (or current??) nexus. It feels to me as if everything over a period of some months has been leading to this (at least for me personally.) Lots of old wounds and even fear patterns (particularly self-esteem, self-worth issues) have been triggered. I recognize them for what they are, but I need to find a way to stay focused on what it is that I want to create, particularly in terms of my career. I am also dealing with a boss who has a very different approach to life than I do. I am guessing she is some combination of sage/priest/warrior - very focused, driven (passion mode?) energy though even though I think she is emotionally centered. Whereas, even though I am a scholar, and intellectually centered, my approach is more fuzzy, diffuse, and go with the flow, or at least it feels that way. Any suggestions here? Please direct your answer in any way that would be helpful to others in general. I can follow up with Troy on the more personal aspects later.
What we can say about the upcoming Nexus is that there seems to be an exploration of the concept of COMPARISONS/CONTRASTS. This seems to be resulting from the enthusiasm/collapse extremes that we have described for many of our students. The enthusiasm comes from the Persistence energy that pushes beyond the collapsing experience of Unchanging energy. It is fair to compare and contrast the unchanging energy with the persistent energy, or the collapsing energy with the enthusiastic energy, but will not be fair to oneself to presume one is stuck in this pattern indefinitely, or to presume one has to remain in one or the other.
In light of this, many of you may find representatives of your inner enthusiasm/collapse around you.
In your case, it could be said that your "boss" represents the enthusiasm, while "you" represent the collapses. This then leads to your attributing distaste for enthusiasm because your boss expresses it differently from what you would, and this leads to distaste for yourself since you see most easily the collapse in you.
[QUESTION] and how to move beyond this?
[Michael Entity] What one could do, using your example, is to try what we suggested in our Energy Report, which is to DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. In this case, it might mean to flip and reverse your perspective and interpretations in a completely enlightening and revitalizing way (instead of in the debilitating way that is your current pattern). Allow your boss to be the wonderful representative of how you create your collapses, and for yourself to represent what actually inspires your enthusiasm. In other words, doing things your way actually leads to productivity, creativity, and meaning, while doing things her way leads to confusion, overwhelm, and hopelessness.
[QUESTIONER] I'm not quite grasping this
If we are seeing the situation clearly, we would say that your collapses come in your comparing yourself to others forms of productivity and trying to implement methods not natural to you, whereas realizing what does and does not work for you allows for you to implement practices that encourage your enthusiasm and do not require you to conform to anyone else's methods.
We believe we may be getting into personal territory and will halt our response here, but simply point out that the upcoming Nexus is one that emphasizes CONTRASTS and COMPARISONS and this is to allow for heightened awareness of what IS and IS NOT working for you in various areas of your life. The process of Comparing and Contrasting can often feel like self-judgment or judgment of others, and it is just that, but it is not something to be feared. It is simply a natural method for navigating life. To fear it is to remain stuck. To remain stuck is to remain at the extreme of collapse.
We will conclude here, then. Good day to each of you. Goodbye.
20131124 Michael Speaks: Open Q&A
By DanielaS
Michael Speaks Live
OPEN FLOOR QUESTIONS
Channel: Troy Tolley
[MEntity]
Hello to each of you. We are here, now. We can begin our exchanges with you.
We understand this exchange to be focused on the questions and considerations of those students "new" to our teachings.
What we will do to launch this discussion is to share with you how best to go about your approach to learning and studying our teachings, and where best to apply what it is that you learn.
The best way to go about your approach to learning and studying our teachings is: YOUR WAY. The best places to apply the teachings as you learn them is: WHEREVER AND HOWEVER YOU WISH TO DO SO.
We know of no "best way" for either of these things
Your questions are yours. Your path is yours. Your pace is yours. We have not presented our teaching in a linear or delineated way for a reason. It is a spherical teaching. It can be approached from all "sides" and each side is interlaced with every other side. You cannot go wrong.
[dave] hello michael. is there anything in particular that would identify the influence as you when i am making choices? is there a way to hear each of our guides individually? i feel love for them and am incredibly grateful.
[MEntity] First, we will say that we, nor your guides, have much influence through even the most willing of fragments. "Influence" from guides can only come in three forms: insight, perspective, or support. We know this can be considered influence, but we wish to clarify that we cannot do more than what is asked of us.
[dave] i get it. those 3 are what i mean.
Next, we would say, yes, there are ways to differentiate between "you" and your guides/us. However, this takes time and awareness. Most fragments are quite content with the more practical "inner voice" that one tends to know as one's own voice.
Because we do not have a voice, nor do your guides, the indicators for those voices tend to need to be defined by the listener, and then listened for.
For example, if you have a guide who is sought for help with career choices, you might assign a more distinct authoritative voice to this guide. That guide will not override this, and all guides would rather use any voice you can hear than to not be heard when you most wish to hear them.
[dave] yeah. i think i maybe shouldn't care too much about it. just that i make wise choices.
If a guide or teacher does not have a distinct "voice" assigned to them, we can say that voices of guides with INSIGHT tend to come with more unaffected, flat deliveries, while voices of PERSPECTIVE tend to come with more "personality" and even symbolism, and voices of SUPPORT tend to come as quite comforting and quiet.
All of these would tend to come as "bursts" or spontaneously, and it is in those moments that you can begin to build your awareness of what each "voice" tends to, and how it is slightly different from your own.
We are speaking of those who live with guides and teachers, not of those who pursue a career in channeling where the differentiation is far more important to distinguish.
[Connor] Hello Michael. This is a question I've run into a couple times which has not been clarified to date, as far as I know. Can Transcendental Souls create karma? An example of Muhummad comes to mind, whose teachings didn't quite 'get across'.
Any fragment who is incarnated can create Karma. It is always a gamble.
However, by the time one has come to be Transcendental, the requirements necessary for the formation of a Ribbon or Ribbons would be highly unlikely.
Karma can be generated without Ribbons. It is the Ribbons that are evaded, not the Karma.
[Connor] Ah. Still learning to differentiate the two.
Karma is imbalance generated by intensity of interference of choice. This almost always generates a Ribbon. A Ribbon is the unattended necessity for balance that is caused by the imbalance.
Older Souls and beyond in Soul Age tend not to generate Ribbons because they can process any imbalance quite rapidly, and it is rarely relative to any Physical Plane requirements for balance.
[Connor] So then the fragment who killed Gandhi, for example, would not have generated a ribbon, despite the act of murder? (if time allows)
For example, a Transcendental Soul may still find himself distracted with the pleasures of the Physical Plane, as was Mahatma Gandhi, and generate some Karma because of some irresponsible choices that create imbalances between himself and others.
There was no interference of choice in terms of the Physical Plane, but there was neglect and indulgences that created imbalances in the Emotional and Intellectual realms. These were then balanced in those realms, such as through dreams or after the life.
[Connor] Cool.
[MEntity] Dying is wholly understood and known to be built into the life of a Transcendental Soul. It is expected. The death is often orchestrated through Agreements in a way that would bring about the changes that the life may not have been able to generate. Karma *could* be generated through the murder of a Transcendental Soul, but it has yet to be done. This is because there is simply no sense of intensity or violation to generate the imbalance necessary.
[Kurtle] Hey Michael, I'm getting to know the overleaves better. For today could you elaborate on the Caution and Power modes and how they appear in older souls(mature and old)? The definitions we have here typically apply to the younger souls so clarification would be useful in how they "manifest".
The Mode is how one RELATES. This is how one relates to the Goal, to the life, to others, and how one goes about securing Intimacy in the life.
At the core of Caution and Power are EXPRESSION, so these will be all about the FORM.
Regardless of Soul Age, Caution will relate DELIBERATELY (with intention) as a way to give form to a relationship, to a goal, to intimacy.
When the forms of relationship, goals, and intimacy are not felt to be representative of Caution, it can fall into PHOBIA, or an extreme aversion to most everything that is in relationship to the fragment.
[Kurtle]
ah that makes sense.
Well the definition of phobia I mean.
In the older souls, DELIBERATION can come in the form of having quite specific standards and parameters for what is of interest for relating to the fragment. Think of Caution as DISCRIMINATION in the context of relating. Deliberation aims for Sophistication.
So Caution Mode is about refining relationships.
When Caution is in Phobia, it is like Discrimination in Rejection.
[Kurtle] It sounds like a friend of mine. 😛
It is a refusal to take responsibility for the forms that have been created or allowed.
Caution could be said to be an emphasis on how the other half of the equation of Relating takes form, whereas POWER is about how YOU take form in the equation of Relating.
Power is about how PRESENT one is in a relationship.
The more Present one is, the more Authority one has over the self.
[Kurtle] So it's like Caution is adapting itself to the situation and Power is adapting the situation to itself?
[MEntity] When POWER feels its Presence is not taking form, it can compensate by falling into OPPRESSION.
[Kurtle] Kind of like Enforcing their presence on others. Ah I see.
In the older souls, Power is all about being awake in a relationship. When the old soul falls into Oppression, he has fallen asleep. If Power is like ACCEPTANCE, the Oppression is like Ingratiation. It is about losing one's form as a way to conform so that one has some sense of power, in the same way that Ingratiation is about doing what one thinks is necessary in order to be loved.
Of course, Ingratiation is not Love, and Oppression is not Power.
Kurt, in the younger Soul Ages, Oppression does come as more of an enforcement of presence upon others, but in the older souls, this turns around so that one begins to shrink in the shadow of anything deemed more powerful.
For all of the Overleaves, try this for understanding the differences between how they manifest in younger Soul Ages versus older Soul Ages:
Add SELF- to the Positive or Negative Pole of the term.
[Kurtle] ohhh that make s a lot of sense.
For instance, in Discrimination, the Negative Pole of Rejection is more often SELF-Rejection for the Old Soul. The Goal of Acceptance is more about SELF-Acceptance. CAUTION Mode can fall into SELF-Phobia, or the Stoic into SELF-Resignation. And so on.
This is not always a clear differentiation, but it can help.
[Kurtle] Ah, would that be the same for the Mature Soul? Self- I mean.
[GeraldineB] That's for another time, Kurt
[GeraldineB] Time to move along 🙂
[MEntity] By "older" we always mean mid-Mature through Old.
[ViP1]
Sex education for children is something that seems particularly important in order for children to know how to manage their impulses with respect for themselves as they become older, and yet it is approached in wildly varying, ad hoc ways that typically depend heavily on cultural background.
Such approaches range from no intentional attempt at sex education at all, rather avoiding the topic completely, to complete openness that might strike other people as awkward and inappropriate.
The education itself might come from parents, or from teachers, or from friends, or from the media, or all of those. In addition, there is usually some degree of awkwardness in parents around even raising the topic with their children to begin with.
Do you have any insights on how to approach sex education for children, irrespective of their cultural background, in a manner that is inclusive of their own makeup, that is appropriate to and respectful of their needs and level of mental/emotional development, the best age for children at which to introduce it, and who such education might best be provided by?
The greatest approach to sex education is through the removal of shame from the equation. The rest is fairly moot. Shame is easily learned, and this informs one more so than any other guiding factor for health.
We say that the rest is fairly moot because most education for children regarding a topic that cannot be fathomed is difficult to instill in any meaningful way, and for those in the throes of it simply cannot hear. "Education" would be most effective in removing shame, and inviting choice.
By inviting choice we mean that children would do well to know that they have a choice for being safe, asking for more information, accessing protection, etc. For some, the details are helpful, for others the details are meaningless, but for the entire spectrum of ages and cultures, CHOICE is what is often missing from the equation of education.
"You do not have to understand what you are doing, just that you have a choice in how you are doing it."
Once the power of choice is in a child's hand from any culture, and the weight of shame is removed, the eagerness for "better choices" comes naturally.
In short: reduce shame, increase choice. This can be implemented in any number of ways.
[HunterG] Hello Michael, I know you have said listening to music can be a direct link to essence. My question is "What is the interaction with essence in the context of CREATING music?" Because not much has been said in that regard.
The process of creating music is often the process of manifesting Essence. It is a bringing of the language of the Astral Plane into form.
All music is an extension of the Astral Plane.
This could be said of any Matter, actually, but music is one of the more fluid and concise extensions.
Different kinds of music extend from different levels of the Astral Plane, but all of it is an extension of this Plane.
This includes the "music" of non-sentient species, as well.
[HunterG] Would there be a way to differentiate the different kinds of music?
[MEntity] Yes. Think of the Astral Plane as something like an Emotional Center with all of its Parts. The Moving Part would be that which encourages movement/action. The Higher Moving would be that which encourages resonance/Beauty. The Intellectual Part would be that which brings Expression, such as song, lyrics, etc., while the Higher Intellectual would be along the lines of choral, or philosophical/Truth explorations in word, and the Emotional Part would be that which soothes and calms, while the Higher Emotional Part might bring healing/Loving. Music is not one or the other of these, but often a mix of at least 2 or 3.
[HunterG] yes
If there is a question to which we can respond in brief, we will take that to close out our session.
If there are no more questions, we will conclude here for tonight. Good evening to each of you.
Michael Speaks: October 2009
Michael Speaks
[Michael Entity] We are here. Hello to each of you.
[QUESTION] Tremendous amounts of seismic activity have occurred in the south pacific recently. What is the likely outcome of this? Does this portend something bigger to come?
[Michael Entity] As you know, we cannot and do not predict, but we can say that the pattern does appear to indicate one of two major directions: That these releases are helping to alleviate a massive plate movement, or that it is leading up to a massive plate movement. The Pacific Plate appears to be shifting more drastically in relation to the Antarctic Plate, due to shifts in temperature and water allocation. At this point, the potential for either direction appears to be equal. The reason we cannot predict the momentum in one direction or the other is because this is one of many factors that would be a part of a Global Nexus building over the next couple of years. In other words, one world would have a massive plate shift, while the other shows a decline in seismic activity altogether.
[QUESTION] Is it possible for what is happening to cause a slipping of ice off the Antarctic plate?
[Michael Entity] It would be nearly impossible, but not impossible, to have the ice cap "slip," at least in a way that is dramatic. It would more than likely require a meteor impact for that to occur.
[QUESTION] How are hive souls different from a human essence with concurrents? Is it the number of incarnations with a human essence having a much smaller number? Or is it a qualitative difference of the character of these different incarnations? Are hive souls also involved with soul levels?
Hive Souls are different because they are not fragments, and they are not Sentient by standards we use to define Sentience, which would be that one is in the final exploration of the Physical Plane as a Fragment who is evolving Self-Awareness combined with exponential capacity for Choice.
Concurrents could be compared to the dynamic of Hive Souls, except that Concurrents have no awareness of one another and each Personality is individual, whereas in Hive Soul dynamics, there is a constant awareness of "the hive," or "species central," so to speak.
We use the term "hive" because it is exactly what it is. The consciousness of each animal can come and go to that "hive" as often as necessary, and returns to that hive between lives, much like one might see in a bee hive, where all of the bees come and go as individuals, but always in coordination with one another, and sharing the same central home. In that regard, one could consider all of one's individual lifetimes as the "bees" to the "hive of Essence," but that is where the comparison would end, unless one were to look at the process of Sentience on a much grander scale, then Tao would be the "hive."
All forms of consciousness move through some organized process of evolution, but until the level of Sentience, those forms of consciousness can opt back out of the process and return to Tao, move to other planetary systems, remain in one level for as long as is desired. Once there is the leap into Sentience, the commitment is permanent in terms of evolving exponentially.
Consider an amusement park as an analogy:
All forms of consciousness can ride any and all of the major rides, as often as desired, and even leave the amusement park for other amusement parks, or leave the amusement park circuit altogether and go "home." However, Sentience could be compared to a massive slide that, once boarded, has a natural momentum that pulls one forward and completely to the end, with very little room for abandoning the momentum.
[QUESTION] How many essences do most essences choose to do many external monads with? Getting confused with what I've read, can't find much in depth material. I know we do them all at least once, and to get to the love monad you do a certain group of them with the same essence, and some choose to do more than one love monad. That seems like a lot of monads to get through. Also, I can't find any description of the love monad beyond the general experiencing agape, etc, and it's not necessarily a mate thing, could be other relationships, right? Is this something usually done with ET and/or just a few other close essences?
Most fragments tend to work in all of the major (classic) external monads in a way that leads to a Love Monad with at least 12 other fragments. Once the Love Monad is completed, this fragment becomes what we refer to as a Heart Link. Most fragments tend to develop at least 12 Heart Links. This may seem like a lot of external monads to complete, and it is, but keep in mind that many of these can be completed with multiple fragments within the same lifetime; many can be reciprocated within a single lifetime; and as Essence evolves and experiments with Concurrents, this adds more possibility for fulfillment. Over approximately 100 lifetimes or more, this is easily accomplished. Many fragments choose to fulfill external monads with those Essences most available and/or already linked, such as Essence Twins, Traveling Companions, the Primary Task Companion, and then those Task Companions who are added after the cycle begins. The Love Monad is not necessarily a final monad, but simply the Monad that moves two fragments into a final process of Agape. In other words, the commitment to truly Love one another has now been made.
In that commitment, the Love Monad would show up as a commitment within the lifetime to "re-visit" literally or symbolically ALL Monads that have come to be fulfilled with one another. The reason for this is because True Love, or Agape, requires comprehension, and the Personalities attempt to truly grasp the magnitude of each other in the Love Monad. Most try to complete the Love Monad within a single lifetime, but we see that up to three lifetimes tend to be the average.
[QUESTION] Does this imply that the Love Monad occurs between fragments of the same soul age?
[Michael Entity] Yes, and rarely before the Old Soul cycle.
[QUESTION] Are the "classic" ones that full set of about 30 I've seen around various places, or a subset?
[Michael Entity] The "classic" set of monads have been listed elsewhere, yes, but we will also include those in the final transcript. [see end of transcript] Though the classics are often preferred, the Love Monad is not limited to having only done the classics. Many Love Monads arise from including a few rather rare or original external monads. Once a Love Monad is completed, ALL "charge" between those fragments is neutralized. In other words, those with Heart Links tend to rarely feel more than soft admiration and embrace of one another.
[QUESTION] I'd like a little more insight into the whole enabling deal [how to tell if you are an enabler, and what to do if you are an enabler].
There are various forms of "enabling," but the generality is that this is a state of passive or active contribution to the harm of another person in the guise of support. The most definitive factor in determining if one is enabling, or not, is if your presence is contributing to the harm of yourself, or to the other. We emphasize "PRESENCE," as it does not have to be an active presence, but can be a passive one, that helps contribute to the harm to yourself, or to the other.
Presence plus Harm equals "Enabling."
We will further define "Harm" as systematic or sudden reduction in the capacity for choice.
Putting all of this together, one can then help oneself determine if one is "enabling," if one's presence is actively, or passively, contributing to the reduction of another's, or your own, capacity for choice.
If one discovers enabling is in effect, the next step is, of course, to make your choice as to whether to continue enabling, which is a valid choice in itself, to remove oneself from that dynamic altogether, or to take action in a way that contributes to the return of choice for both parties. The key in your next step, then, would be CHOICE, which helps to counter all harmful effects of Enabling.
If one chooses to continue enabling after one has realized that is the dynamic, it will require a reduction of consciousness and a move into a division within the Personality. This is because, however regressive one's behavior can be, one's awareness cannot be unlearned. You now KNOW you are enabling, and you choose to continue to contribute harm. This will require a division within, as one part is fully aware, and the other part manages the habitual behavior.
However, that part that is aware will now always be there, and it will most likely not be able to be ignored, however habitual the behavior continues. This is why we say that even the choice to continue can help counter the effects of enabling. In a sudden moment, everything can change, now that this awareness is in place. In other words, many will continue to enable, until they simply cannot.
If you chose to remove yourself from the enabling dynamic, this leaves the other Personality to either find someone else to enable, or to find effective help, or to spiral further into his or her own demise. However, in a situation where one has not only become ineffective in bringing about healing and positive change, but has moved into a dynamic that is actually causing harm to both parties, then the choice to leave is not abandonment.
It is love.
For many fragments, the choice to step outside of the dynamic of self-harm that is generated by another fragment is one of the most difficult, and most loving choices, a Personality can ever make.
It is entirely counter-intuitive to step outside of that dynamic, and often it is met with devastating feelings, but it is a choice that is rooted in absolute love, not only in that it is countering the harm that is built into the dynamic of enabling, but in that it is a trust in both parties to return to a capacity of choice that is higher than when together.
The choices made beyond that cannot be guaranteed to bring about beautiful results, but the capacity for choice is there.
Beyond continuing to enable, or removing oneself from the enabling dynamic, there is then the choice to take active measures to increase the capacity for choice for both parties.
If this choice is made, it does not guarantee that the one who was enabled will be receptive to this increase of choice, but as one is in a state that is decreased capacity for choice, it is a fair and legitimate choice of another fragment to "intervene," if possible.
Intervention may, or may not, be received, but the effort to bring this to the previously-enabled fragment's life is a valid choice, if you choose to do so, and if the resources are there to help you to do so.
[QUESTION] One wonders whether animals are happy in zoos, but on the other hand zoos are nowadays helping to save threatened species. Does the positive outweigh the negative?
[Michael Entity] On a small scale, there are a number of zoos where the impact is for preservation, sanctuary, and rehabilitation, and these zoos are fairly clear and open in that agenda. We see most animals in that scenario to find value in the experience as this contributes to their own evolution of consciousness. Anytime animals can be in close proximity to Sentience while capable of maintaining their own level of capacity for choice, much is gained. However, most zoos do not share this agenda, and simply exist as a business for generating city or personal revenue, contributing to the unnecessary confinement, capture, and harm of those animals involved. We cannot say that the positive outweighs the negative, but we can say that if one is concerned, it is usually obvious which zoos are sanctuaries, and which are businesses.
[QUESTION] So one can visit a sanctuary zoo with a clear conscience?
That would be a question only you could answer. We know that many can visit the most harmful of zoos and still have a "clear conscience," while others can visit the most beneficial of zoos, and leave feeling a deep guilt or sorrow. However, we can say that if one's concern is the comparison between benefit vs destruction, then those zoos focused on sanctuary, etc, may be more comfortable for the compassionate Personality.
Compassion and consciousness grow parallel to one another, and are often linked with sensitivity. If one's consciousness and compassion has evolved to a point where these questions are important, and one feels that the participation in one zoo contributes to one's idea of good work, over the work of another, then the choice may be an easy one for that individual. For another fragment who is not emphasizing broad compassion and consciousness, then the choice may simply be as to which one would bring more personal joy or entertainment.
We wish to point out that we see all choices as valid, but in terms of contributing to the choices available to non-sentient species vs the reduction of choice for that species, we do see this concern as growing parallel to one's evolution of consciousness. For instance, one can easily remove the choice of a fellow Sentient fragment through murder in earlier lifetimes, but this eventually falls away as a solution as consciousness evolves. The same concern begins to extend to other species as that evolution continues.
This is not to say that an Old Soul will not, or cannot, murder, or that an Infant or Baby soul does not have compassion and concern for other species, but that the progression is fairly consistent in terms of your question becoming an important to the fragment.
[QUESTION]
Hello, Michael. Based on the Teachings we've received so far, I cannot validate the truth of whether or not Cetaceans are an ensouled family of animals for a number of reasons:
...1) Michael has said that Cetacea are a transplanted group of Essences who are finishing off their Grand Cycles started elsewhere, but nearly gone extinct due to technological/civilization abuses. Also, their ensoulment started prior to humans.
...When did cetaceans first ensoul on earth?
[Michael Entity] About 40 million years ago by Earth standards of measuring time. The original line of species from the original star system were land and water mammals who would resemble something more like variations of swimming wolves that could walk upright. The line of species on Earth that were used for continued ensoulment of the 3 Harmonies (about 5 million entities) was an Order that had some genetic history of land and water life, as well, but had become water-bound, with no appendages capable of environmental manipulation, and had developed the Intellectual Center to a point where a leap into self-awareness and capacity for choice could be ignited by the ensoulment.
...What was the average soul age level?
[Michael Entity] The average Soul Age at the time of the transition was early Young.
...Have they continued to start new infant souls?
[Michael Entity] Infant Souls stopped choosing these species millions of years ago, though 1 additional Harmony that had not begun its incarnations in the previous species joined the 3 who transferred, and those fragments know only Earth as their Sentient cycles. Most of the fragments who have become notorious in their curiosity and exchange with Human Sentience come from that Harmony.
...2) Cetaceans is a biological order, not a species -- just as primates is an order, not a species. The order Cetacea contains about ninety species, all marine except for four species of freshwater dolphins.
...Which species of Cetaceans are ensouled?
[Michael Entity] The concept of "Species" is a relative concept, and one that is not consistent, complete, or agreed upon, even within your scientific communities. We use the term loosely, as it does have a fair amount of accuracy as a reference. In terms of Cetacea, nearly all species are ensouled, except the various Families known as the River Dolphin. Within the Cetacean world, "species" are experienced more in the way that Humans experience "Race," with no real differentiation between those Whales with teeth and those without.
...3) Michael has said that culture and social interactions are major parts of the evolution of humans' soul ages. The continual use of choice generates intense relationships, and karma. Civilization has grown out of a need to stabilize the effects of weather irregularities and to allow for surpluses.
...While I can understand that civilization may not be necessary in a stable environment and food supply, especially if one is nomadic, the impact of social interactions and karma seems necessary for soul evolution. None of the information about roles, overleaves, or even soul age level seem to apply to cetaceans. Nor do they seem to share a culture. Can you explain?
The vast variation of cultures among Humans, however foreign, frightening, or familiar, all share mediums that are natural to your species. The same is true of Cetaceans who do not have the same capacity for manipulating their environment in a way that you would recognize their cultures, but in ways that are relative to their capabilities. In many cases, there are common grounds, but even within that common ground, it may not be recognizable to Humans as a "culture" by Human standards. Areas of culture that you might recognize would be in their dance, games, singing, poetry, families, story-telling, etc. These are areas that are handed down, taught, have become tradition, have evolved over time, and could be seen and heard by you for the most part, though it may not make sense to you. Beyond these common areas, art is quite important to Cetacea and this is done in an arena that you might recognize as a telepathic, or psychic, arena. Constructs of thought and feeling can be shaped in ways that can be transferred and shared among the various species. Many of the larger Whales might be experienced as floating art galleries, as they tend to store and collect art. Cetacea do not have religions as Humans do, but they do have their mythologies that could be said to be similar to religious mythology. Most of their mythologies are consistent and shared across species, all being variations of their history of commitment to rise above harm and violence, to cultivate arts, and to find their way home to the stars. Human mythology is similar, since Human Sentience was also transported from species off-planet, but Humans have turned their mythologies away from being a reflection of origin and intent, to being a process and mirror for dysfunction.
Soul Age, Levels, Overleaves, etc, are just as valid among Cetacea as they are among Humans. There are instances when our students may recognize the validity of these factors in behaviors that are familiar, or as exchanges between Cetacean and Human. For the most part, your question is similar to a statement such as "all Chinese look alike," when that statement couldn't be further from the truth. That statement, as well as your question, merely reflects a lack of intimate experience with the individuals that make up that group. We can assure you that there is a spectrum of personalities among Cetacea, from wise Whales and wise-ass Whales, and beyond. As with any group of Sentience that has variations of body types, cultures, history, current circumstances, etc, Soul Ages tend to gravitate toward one group or another.
For instance, in Humans the "Black Race" used to be primarily Mature Souls as slavery was imposed, and the fight for freedom and rights was building. Once a fair amount of freedom was secured, Young Souls have now moved into that "race" as a means to take advantage of that freedom. For many years, Servers found great value in building up the United States, but once the United States moved into a Young Soul paradigm, Servers shifted their population to China. Now that Mature Souls, and a return of emphasis to family and support is building, Servers are returning to the U.S. This same kind of movement of Souls and Soul Ages is within the Cetacea. The species known as Orca are more exciting to the Infant and Baby Souls, whereas the larger Whales are more appealing to the Older Souls. Now Orcas tend to be popular among Young Souls, and this contributed to an entire entertainment industry on land with Humans, as these Young Souls rebel against their cultures and insist that they can be "stars." Many of the familiar Dolphin tales of rescue and nurturing of stranded humans are Mature Souls, as well as the occasional beached, confused, or tragic incidences among Whales and Dolphins. Whales and Dolphins drawn to Human exchanges tend to be Sages and Scholars. Of course, within all of this are the Overleaves.
In short, unless you are able to truly submerge yourself into another group, the things that you find familiar may not be found among that group, but that does not invalidate the reality of their souls or their cultures.
...4) Michael has said that the essential component necessary to a intelligent species to make the leap to sentience and ensoulment is imagination. Choice requires imagination and creative thinking. Whales, dolphins, and porpoises are generally deemed very intelligent, but there seems little evidence of imagination. Humpback whales display creative thinking in their use of encircling herring in a ring of bubbles that forces them into a ball for easy capture. But for all of the millennium that humans and cetacea have co-existed, none of the cetaceans seem to have much understanding or lore about avoiding human hunters. Cetacean language may include song but it doesn't include historical or teaching stories. The oceans are vast and unpredictable; they are not humans' natural element. Yet, they managed to hunt several species of whale to near extinction. How was this possible?
Humans hunt, enslave, murder, and torture EACH OTHER on small scales and large scales. The fact that this can still occur, even with all that has come to be recorded and learned by your own species, does not negate your imagination, capacity for choice, and sentience. The fact that Humans can extend this violence and impose it upon other creatures, does not, in any way, negate their capacity for feeling or suffering, let alone their capacity for choice, imagination, and sentience. One of the primary motivating factors for Humans is Fear. One of the primary motivating factors for Cetacea is Love. In the same way that most Humans will gauge their options through a filter of fear, Cetacea tend to filter their options through Love. This means that their "lore" and teachings are rooted in trust, open-mindedness, affection, and innocence. Despite the fact that a Cetacean species may be hunted to the point of extinction, Cetacea will not give up the concept that there is hope for peaceful relations with every other species. In addition to this, their concepts of death are quite different from Humans', and their emphasis is on life and living moment to moment, rather than in a way that is entirely based in fear and preservation. Keep in mind that this is a group of Sentience who destroyed themselves and the habitable status of their original planet. They are simply not going to go down any path of choice that hints at war or fear. This is not to say they do not experience fear, or choose fear, but that they do it in other ways unrelated to survival.
Every group of Sentience moves through cycles that could be described in terms of Overleaves, and for the past Century, Cetaceans have been in Spiritualist cycle, with Idealism before that. The new century cycle is one of Realism, and this may help temper some of the blind faith and naivety that has been a part of their societies for a couple of centuries.
Humans have moved out of a cycle of Cynicism and into Idealism, tempered with Pragmatism.
As for imagination, most of this you simply cannot see. To insist that one species use the tools, or the familiar media, that another species uses as a means to determine intelligence and imagination, is simply an invalid method of interpretation.
[QUESTION]...Additionally, since karma is created when sentient species kill sentient species, how will the karma be balanced between the whale hunters and the whales? Or even the tuna fisherman and the dolphins?
[Michael Entity] Karma is only generated if INTENSITY is generated on at least one side of the scenario and attached to the other. With Cetacea inherently forgiving and naive, very little Karma has been generated. In instances where Karma has been generated, it would be burned in the same way that you understand Ribbons to be burned among Humans. This would either be a reversal of the scenario in another life, or a creative form of balance that is focused on rescue and saving lives. In other words, for example, many Whale hunters from the past are now activists for their protection.
*** End of session
*Classic External (relationship) Monads
Teacher/Student; Parent/Child; Imprinter/Imprinted; Siblings (brother/brother, brother/sister, sister/sister); Husband/Wife; Leader/Follower; Attacker/Victim; Healer/Healed; Rescuer/Rescued; Integrator/Eccentric; Hopelessly Loving/Hopelessly Loved; Passionate/Repressed; Dependent/Independent; Pivotal Facilitator/Facilitated; Slovenly/Meticulous; Passive/Aggressive; Adept/Apprentice; Artist/Patron; Deserter/Abandoned; Profligate/Tempered; Innocent/Sophisticate; Promiscuous/Impotent; Master/Slave; Player/Pawn; Defender/Defended; Hidden/Disclosed; Slander/Slandered; Jailer/Prisoner; Tandem Monad; Love Monad
Note from Janet:
In the comments following the original posting of this session, the following exchange occurred which may be relevant to those reading this transcript:
Very interesting Troy, I do have a question about humans on occasion incarnating into cetaceans or the other way around. I simply cannot abide Micheal's take that this does absolutely not happen. I tend to feel I have had at least one lifetime in this form while still doing the human rounds, so to speak. Can you comment on why essence might choose to do this and what reasons would predispose essence to do this as opposed to maybe sticking to a one species at a time kind of thing. I imagine that in life there have to be the occasional exceptions to the rule. Look at Bill Gates' wealth, Micheal Jackson's talent, Hitler's atrocities etc etc
Response from Troy:
My first response is that Bill Gates, Michael Jackson, and Hitler don't represent anything similar to an "exception to the rule" that might be similar to an exception like Sentience leaping around in different species. Those people are still living within the context of being human and using the same playing field we all have access to. They may be exceptional to the average life, but not exceptional to any rule.
But Michael has addressed this sense of memory for some as being Cetacean, and Michael has said that these memories vary from fantasy to astral reviews to being friends with other Sentient Essences, and memories other Grand Cycles.
FANTASY: Some of us identify strongly with what we see as such innocence and wisdom and peace, so we create fantasies about having been one of them.
ASTRAL REVIEW: When it's from astral review, it's usually from between lives when we had taken part in the harm of a Cetacean.
Michael has explained that our astral review always includes a complete examination of any harm we caused to any creature. Any time our consciousness gets to a point where we begin considering the consequences of our actions on other creatures, sentient or otherwise, we generate a kind of self-karma that we work through. So if we pointlessly squash a bug, bite into a hamburger, and we realize that our actions contributed to the harm of a creature, or if we are on a whaling boat and start to realize that something is very painful and upsetting about that exploitation, we explore the flip side in our astral review. That means we literally cast a part of our consciousness into an animal, insect, bird, or reptile and experience whatever we did that caused their demise or wounding. If an incarnated animal isn't in any situation that could lend that experience, then it will be done entirely on the astral, and though the physical experience may be compromised a bit, the emotional experience would be equal. This is how we begin to truly grasp compassion beyond the limits of our species.
FRIENDSHIP: Michael says it's not uncommon at all for groups of Sentience who are incarnating in different species that do not interact on the physical plane in any meaningful way to still develop friendships outside of the Physical Plane. There are a lot of fragments throughout the body of students of Michael who are good friends with many Cetacean Sentients. And probably just as many who have friends (as Essence) from off-planet, as well. Michael has said that when the species don't interact in a way that can build relationships, then the Essences will explore each others' species and environment during astral review, sometimes even acting as a guide while one is incarnated.
GRAND CYCLES: And then Michael has also said that there were other species similar to Cetaceans in our past Grand Cycles that, as we grow older in soul age, we might be remembering.
In the end, Michael says that you can believe whatever you want, though, of course.
Further comment from Geraldine:
I think that something that you're not taking into consideration is the long period of time where your Essence was exploring the beginning of their Grand Cycle and experimenting on the physical plane. This is when each Essence spends time as all of the beginning and simplest elements, minerals, rocks, simple animals and plants -- all the way on up to being Hive Souls and Devas. All seven kingdoms of existence are experienced in order to develop Essence to be ready to ensoul into a species. Not all of these experiences are spent on earth and many Essences who do experience a kingdom or two will move onto another planet elsewhere on the physical plane.
While I've read elsewhere that humans and cetaceans experience cross-species ensoulment, I tend to go along with Michael on this one as it's consistent with all of the rest of their teachings about Role in Essence development. It's very possible that you have a whale totem animal and are picking up those "vibes." I know that I have a Blue Whale as one of my totem animals.
Michael Speaks -- Open Floor (June 21, 2001)
Troy Tolley, Channel
Note: This content has been corrected based on Troy's acknowledgment of errors on June 26. Although the report is for two weeks, Michael included info regarding a shift in August.
[Michael_Entity]
Hello. We are here. We will begin with the Energy Report as it stands for the weeks between June 24 through July 7. We will comment momentarily that the energy over the past couple of weeks has built and will peak this weekend, for most of you. We speak in a wider meaning of "you" at this point.
This weekend will be a pivotal social experience for some of you. It is suggested that you take part in any events you have been invited to or are considering in any way. We do not wish to infuse any more meaning into this weekend than you, individually, would extract, but the energy is there for this to be a great change in your usual setting.
If you are in some way involved in a larger gathering or social event than you have been for a while, we suggest it is in an indication that you are, indeed, considering more of your Needs being responsibly fulfilled. If you are not involved in any events of this nature, it may be simply an indication that you are open to examining the more social aspects of yourself, responsibly considering your personal Needs before exposing yourself to a larger circle. Regardless, the themes over the next couple of weeks are, indeed, about exposure and even further reaching out to other fragments in Agreement, Karma, or any other connection.
Many of you older souls shy away from the more "silly" aspects of being "out there," resigning from indulging in social activities and playfulness. It is not because you do not crave it, but that you feel as if "there are more important things to do." Even if you believe you are a fairly playful and social person, as our channel here does, we still suggest that there is an opportunity this weekend, and over the next two weeks, to "let your hair down." Your Chief Features will be highlighted, but only lightly, in relation to how you feel in groups, and as part of a group.
August 4 marks your next Parallel Shift; this one focusing on arranging, rearranging, adding, and moving away from people in your life. Any relationships that are not fulfilling to you on at least two levels (out of 4; Instinctive, Emotional, Intellectual, Physical), will more than likely dissolve. Any relationships that have been introduced within this year that are "new" and are fulfilling at least two of your levels (and reciprocated, of course), will more than likely take a serious, permanent turn. We include the next ten days or so as a period of time in "finding" some of the "new" relationships, as well. This does not have any bearing on relationships outside of this context, as anyone met after August will have different contexts and "reasons" of their own.
We do not mean to imply anything more or less about relationships outside of these parameters in the Energy Report; we are merely commenting on the nature of the energy at this time.
During this Nexus, you will be DIVERGING Parallels, primarily, meaning you will be in a period of potentially obvious Choice Making. Your choices will determine the nature of any parallels created or sustained.
We realize choice making occurs at all times, but during a Nexus, there are either MERGINGS or DIVERGENCES, primarily, and with Diverging, there is a heightened sense of needing to consider your choices. While during a MERGING, there is a sense of needing to sleep, wait, exhaustion, etc., as with the previous major Nexus.
We will begin with your questions, either about the Energy Report, or otherwise.
[MaryBV] Well, it is interesting that you brought this up, because I have been wondering about the nature of the TrueView list now that the membership has changed. Can you comment a bit on the purpose of the list now?
The "TrueView" list has several "purposes," many of them personal to the participants. In and of itself, though, "TrueView" has as its "purpose" to house the elements of your Cadre and Energy Ring who are concerned with this Teaching as it can be applied in the lives of others. We do not mean "apply" in terms of recruiting or teaching it, yourselves, but rather, many of you are serious about how to translate the elements of your lives through the lens of this teaching, and utilize that insight as a means to help others.
We have seen a common denominator among those of you actively participating with "TrueView," in that you are "working on yourselves," not as a means to only "better yourselves," but as a means to be MORE for others. Each of you appear to be "touchstones" for many in your contact circle, and whether subtly or more openly shared, your perceptions are used as a means to better your relationships, and this extends into helping others with their own.
If "TrueView" were to have a "Task," it could be said to be "to comprehend and embody the importance of being Needed and Wanted."
[ludmila] This changing of relationships you refer to, as happened with people unsubscribing from this list, and still others recently joining, does this mean the agreements have been filled or just changed, or is it that those people who left resonate more to another channeler?
Many Agreements were abdicated, while still others simply resonate more to other speakers. Those that have abdicated will find other Agreements to fulfill; those who were left with the abdication will find their second strings of Agreements to fulfill. Agreements are malleable, as you know, and are not Karmic in their fulfillment or abdication, for the most part.
Abdication though, does tend to bring out any Self-Karma for examination. The shift in the list you refer to certainly created a wave of self-examination and self-karma, mostly around acceptance and, as we said, the nature of being wanted and needed.
[Dewliet] Hi Michael. Aside from what Troy would call "sucky channeling," what are some reasons for discrepancies in overleaves channeled by different people?
There are three facets to a Personality, the Akashic Records (or True Overleaves), the Perceived Overleaves; and the Projected Overleaves. The True Overleaves are just that, the True Overleaves. They are sometimes not understood or agreed with because they do not "match" the behavior the fragment appears to be exuding, but they are the Overleaves, nonetheless.
Due to Imprinting, a fragment can appear completely in opposition to his/her True Overleaves. No amount of valid channeling will bring awareness or validation to this fragment or those trying to comprehend them.
Perceived Overleaves are the Overleaves of another fragment as they are filtered through your own or a channel's; it is how YOU see Other. Channeling the Overleaves of a fragment as they are being perceived by those around them can be very freeing and enlightening. This, then, can bring understanding and acceptance for that aspect of them and/or free the Perceived fragment from the confines of the imprinting and bring about the True Overleaves.
Projected Overleaves are those being attempted to as a presentation from the fragment in question.
Regardless of the True Overleaves, this fragment may have decided on a way of being and behaving that is conducive to certain tasks or images. This does not change their True Overleaves, but certainly affects how they are perceived. Channeling for that fragment or about that fragment can bring understanding and acceptance about the nature of their Ego and self-perception.
It can be said that the Perceived Overleaves can shed light on the nature of the fragment as they are expected to behave, while the Projected Overleaves shed light on how that fragment expects to be accepted. ALL versions of the Overleaves are "valid" in their own contexts. Many channels are not aware of these differences as Facets.
So, aside from "sucky channeling," there is this to consider.
[Annette] Psychic Sylvia Brown has stated that the soul chooses three "exit points" for its lifetime – possible "outs" in case life isn't working out and fragment chooses to return, or when fragment feels work is done. Can Michael comment on this?
[Michael_Entity] We have seen the average as being 5 Exit Points. We concur other than that minor point.
[Liiona24] During last report on Needs, the statement was made that we should watch our reactions and that those indicated where we needed to be doing more for ourselves, if I interpreted correctly. However, some needs appear to be "other" oriented such as Exchange. How is this resolved then, how does one meet a need for "exchange" unilaterally, for example?
[Michael_Entity] ALL Needs are only "Other-Oriented" in that they do require a certain circuitry for their fulfillment. What we mean in terms of these Needs as being the individual's responsibility to fulfill, for instance: if you believe there is no fulfilling Exchanges in your life, then you would seek out more appropriate "circuits." If you are trying to have a meaningful, deep, emotionally/intellectually/physically satisfying Exchange in a relationship that is not creating a circuit, then it may be appropriate to lose the expectations of that being your source. Exchange is not just about giving something to someone else, but that you are having True Communication on some level. Exchange can be satisfied even in the realms of financial investments, so it is not simply about Other. Their is no way to "unilaterally" be concerned with the Needs of Others, except in terms of what you feel you are comfortable in offering. You will all find your sources and matches in some way.
[JNelson] What emotions are goosebumps and the "chills" a physical manifestation of, not counting responses to temperature? Or intellectual manifestations of, for that matter.
[Michael_Entity] This could be called "Instinctive Realization." It is the result of the Lower Centers responding/reacting simultaneously as PARTS of the Instinctive Center. This experience is always linked to "realization" on a level that bypasses all of the Lower Centers, but creates a release in them as Parts in the Instinctive Center. When this occurs, it is safe to say that the very base part of you has resonated to something rooted in fear or desire. Fear may be obvious, but when the realization is in desire, as it is meant here, is in the connection made on a level wherein you had no previous realization that you were "expecting" something of that nature.
[ClaireN] Would Michael please comment on the function of the pineal gland and any disorders that it may cause?
The Pineal Gland is related to what might be considered your Higher Emotional Center, 6th Chakra, or "Third Eye." We have seen its function directly related to dreaming, astral perception, channeling, imagination, and true perception/love. It is highly affected by the amount of sunlight, or any light for that matter, that is taken in through the sense of sight, and as the light permeates the forehead. Those who have a block or "disorder" in this gland can tend to have fertility problems, menstruation problems, and inability to have imagination of an optimistic nature, inability to recall dreams, may have depression and sleep disorders.
One of the major contributors to the suppression of this gland's ability to function properly is in the use of what is called "microwaves." Food prepared in this fashion tends to carry within it "vortexes" of energy that, when integrated over a short period time, can lead to lack of motivation and lack of clarity for a future. The "vortexes" remain in the body, particularly affecting the Pineal, for an average of 7 years. We do not have a term through this channel to more adequately describe that which is transferred through the act of microwaving, but this will do.
The "vortexes" collect in the center of the food prepared, in a size approximately equal to a golf ball. Larger ovens preparing larger foods can create collections in sizes up to a tennis ball. Those who are overexposed or underexposed to sunlight can develop a disorder of this gland. Those who are overexposed to what is called Fluorescent lights are susceptible to this, as well.
We will conclude here. Good Night.
Michael Speaks - October 28, 2012 - Open Q&A
Michael Speaks, October 28, 2012
[tkmppi] As the votes in municipal elections are just being counted, I'd like to hear a short comment from Michael on the populist party Perussuomalaiset ("The Finns"), with candidates of foreign background as well as those opposed to immigration, which appears to be the only winning party in these elections, although not as many votes as it got in the parliamentary elections last year
We will offer a short comment: This Party appears to be comprised of early Mature souls who are working to clarify what they deem is an optimal balance between the social and economic contexts.
If it were put into terms familiar to our teaching, it might be described as the "self-karmic" Party, with those feeling resonance with it working through internal conflicts that go hand in hand with evolving consciousness that also wants to retain familiarities.
This is just a short comment with no emphasis or direction, so if you would like for us to clarify, or if you do not find this valid or relevant, you may say so, if you choose.
[tkmppi] It's relevant, and clarifies my own feelings about the party.
[Ingun] Could you share some of the overleaves or any comments on what Anders Behring Breivik did, the perpetrator of the 2011 attacks here in Norway.
This appears to be an early Young Priest in the Negative Poles who could not fathom a direction of a world away from his own ideals, which appear to have been imprinted heavily and never questioned.
It goes beyond this, in that it was not about the world moving in a direction away from his own ideals, but about removing those who represented that move away from the ideals.
When one has deemed oneself a keeper of an ideal that does not allow for variations or inclusion of differences, it can lead to delusional violence that range between the acts of this Priest to political maneuvers to enact oppressive laws.
With a Goal of Submission, Mode of Passion, Attitude of Idealism, and Chief Features of Impatience and Martyrdom, all of which were in the Negative Poles, were used to funnel a violent assault that was consciously chosen with conviction and with a sense of justification.
[Maureen]
Michael – you said: "Every Entity 5 is themed in Expansion vs Adventure, and in this case, this Entity is scattered across the planet, constantly moving, with not too many fragments from that entity getting too close together." Considering we are usually spread out around the world, I know of 7 C1E5s (including me) living in Toronto.
I feel like we are starting to gather together for some reason as many of us have had first contact or have gotten back in touch in the last 2 years. Is this a high number for one location or is this just a "coincidence"? One thing of note -- we do have different levels of contact with each other (i.e. I've never met one of the other Entity 5 members, in person).
Maureen, many entity members who can, will manage to cross paths in some way, or be brought to the awareness of, the 7th Level Old who may or may not return. This is not unusual, and it is one of the "fun things" that is attempted for one who is 7th Level Old.
Especially if that entity has been themed in keeping intimacy across time and space barriers throughout lifetimes.
[Maureen] Thank you!
That is not the only reason, of course, because these fragments have lives that are being shaped by their own choices, but it is part of the consideration.
And though this entity can tend to be scattered, as the entity members age in Soul Age, the gravity of the reunion begins to become priority.
[Diane_HB] When people are regressed into the Theta state, they remember their time between lives and the procedures that they go through to reincarnate. They talk about taking a certain amount of energy to earth -- between 35% to 75%. Why do people under hypnosis experience themselves as choosing new lives and not Essence making new fragments?
When the regression is valid, there is little differentiation between the Personality and Essence, much in the same way that one might begin to live when Manifesting Essence. The "I" is Essence. The Essence includes the current Personality. The differentiation is moot.
In those descriptions of quantifiable "energy," it may be a description of the Instinctive Center being carried forward after Review, or the uploading of the relevant data, so to speak.
Beyond that, the perception would, naturally, TEND to be from the perspective of the current Personality, regardless of how deep the state.
[Diane_HB] I thought uploading of data is from personality to essence, whereas the Michael Newton books talk about "bringing down energy" in terms of the "soul" using a percentage of its energy to incarnate.
Both would be true. Data can be "uploaded" from Personality, especially while still incarnated, but is often still in charge of that work during Review, after a lifetime. This is, basically, a dumping of all data relative to the Chakras used by that Personality. The Instinctive Center, sans those extensions that were the Chakras for that lifetime, is then moved into another life and Personality, which will then extract and build its own relative Chakra system.
Imagine the Instinctive Center as a kind of Annual Plant that always returns with new growth, but always from the same starting point.
In terms of incarnation, that plant grows faster and stronger in each successive life, if you will.
Every incarnation takes a certain amount of energy, and each lifetime comes with a certain amount built in from which to then build from, either with or without Essence.
That allotted energy tends to be relative to the amount of data extracted from the Instinctive Center from the previous life and Personality, if we are going to describe this in a linear way.
For example, if 75% of the Instinctive Center was usable data that was completion of Monads, Karma, etc, or as data that must be returned to in much later incarnations, then when the incarnation is set up, it might be said to have been sent with "75%" energy.
That would be because 25% of the Instinctive Center is being carried forward, with 75% of new Essence energy for new experiences, plans, momentum, etc.
[Diane_HB] Would somebody with "75%" energy *feel* more energetic than someone with "35%" energy?
It is not that it is 75% of Essence, but rather a description of that which is refreshed in the Instinctive Center. For instance, those who are in the 6th Level of a Soul Age tend to have carried over a rather full Instinctive Center, whereas those in the 5th Levels tend to have a higher percentage of new space in their Instinctive Center.
Again, this is a crude and limited description, but it is valid enough for beginning to understand.
The amount of "new energy" versus carry-over of Instinctive data has no bearing on the feeling of "energy" of a lifetime, because everyone responds to either of these extremes in different ways.
For example, there are those on the 6th Level with "jammed-packed" Instinctive Centers carried over so that as much Karma (both internally and externally) can be addressed as possible, and some will feel the weight of this and feel the pull below the water, while others keep their heads above water and gain a kind of optimistic strength, even as they tread the exhausting waters of that life.
The feelings of "energetic" are shaped by choices, health, priorities, diet, geography, projects, etc. not by past lives or energy dynamics of Essence or Instinctive Center.
[ClaireC] Hello, Michael. We touched on Dementia at last Wednesday's POF. Since this is such a difficult Choice to understand and knowing that a lot depends on the individuals' soul ages, can you elaborate more on this in view of our aging Baby-Boomer population and the dismal statistics facing us? Is there a large physical component too?
Though we tend to emphasize the more metaphysical components of an ailment, disease, or injury, there are basic physical factors that are involved that matter. We can expound upon the metaphysical matters that are behind a person who is hit by a bus, but the fact that will remain that anyone hit by a bus is probably going to get injured, or die. A bus is a large object that, when hurdling through space toward a softer object, may tend toward devastating results.
And so it is with the Human body: as it moves through time and space, it does not regenerate and renew in ways that enable it to live "forever," but as the time frame for life expands, so does the body begin to house a brain with diminishing capacities for functioning as it used to function.
For many fragments, however, this is not as ugly an experience as it would seem to be, anymore than birth is an ugly experience. The developing brain in a "useless" body is no different than a diminishing brain in a "useless" body.
The return to an infantile state can be greatly liberating to a Personality who may have repressed a great deal over the lifetime.
The development of some form of Dementia tends to be relative to the level of repression that may have been involved in the life, relative to the denial of dependency, relative to the insistence on control, and so many other factors. It is as diverse in "reason for having" as any other condition.
But we can say that diet contributes greatly to the eventual condition.
[ClaireC] I thought so. Thank you.
[Martha] Yesterday I met Damien Echols and his wife Lorri Davis, and read Damien's very priest-y book about his spiritual journey while on death row for nearly 20 years in brutal conditions. Their story seems full of major karma, monads, and the makings of an epic tale. His focus on staying an awake and growing spiritual person, while surrounded by what sounds like much younger souls and/or those who never progressed through even the earliest internal monads, is very inspiring. He's had some truly amazing support as well from lots of people. I know some of their story may still be private due to ongoing karma, but can you share something about what all is going on here? He and the rest of the West Memphis 3 were recently released but not exonerated. I think Arkansas does not want to admit how badly they fucked up.
[MEntity] This is an example of a Server and how one lifetime can be the equivalent of 30 for other fragments. This is a cluster of "classic" Monads come to full completion (or near completion) in one lifetime for the fragments involved: Attacker/Victim; Healer/Healed; Rescuer/Rescued; Dependent/Independent; Pivotal Facilitator, Facilitated; Passive/Aggressive; Artist/Patron; Deserter/Abandoned; Defender/Defended; Player/Pawn; Hidden/Disclosed; Slander/Slandered; Jailer/Prisoner; Tandem Monads.
[AnnH] jesus
[Martha] holy shit
[MEntity] The "priest-y" qualities may come from the Sage Casting and imprinting from his culture, and contribute to his efforts to turn this experience into a teaching.
[Martha] is he a Michael student?
[Martha] not this life, but in general?
Yes, he is.
He is from Cadre 11.
[Martha] I had a recognition hit with him and his wife
Your Cadre 11.
This is not to say that this was planned or imposed upon the Personality, but that once there was a situation that presented itself as being optimal for "making the best of it," these Monads were pulled in over time.
[Janet] My attitude is Stoic and I have found little documentation -- only generalities -- as to what this attitude entails. (For example: "sees life as if they have seen it all before".) Most of the references to Stoic that I've found are in association with those who are Spiritualist and need to use the positive pole of Stoic to get out of negative pole of Spiritualist. For the benefit of all of us Stoics, can you perhaps provide little more info about this attitude? Are there identifiable degrees between the positive and negative poles?
Janet, the Stoic is one who interprets life in terms of behavior and character vs claims and descriptions. Character and behavior must take priority over other facets of interpretation. For instance, it will not matter what one says, but what one does, who one IS.
The Stoic explores the world of ethics as sustained and nurtured through self-management, self-awareness, self-control. This realm of ethic evolves from being standardized in the younger Soul Ages to being highly individualized by the Old Soul Age, with nuances granted.
We have described the Stoic as "one who sees the world as if it has been seen before" because the Stoic uses one's "nature" as the defining force against which to measure ethics and authenticity. This nature is a constant, even if individualized. In short, the older Soul Stoic might simply see the world in terms of how true one is to oneself.
And "oneself" is one's nature, and this is fairly constant, if not completely constant. It can be built upon, evolved, expanded, destroyed, crippled, wounded, but it is a constant that is fairly easy to discern by the Stoic.
The Stoic interprets life with a spectrum of understanding that one's nature is naturally limiting, that one's environment is naturally constricting, that one's upbringing has its effects, and so on, and that all of these things contribute to the character and behavior of a person in a way that is somewhat deterministic. That a person is the way he is because that is what he has to work with.
[Janet] I assume the Stoic applies this yardstick both to herself and to others.
In the Positive Pole, Tranquility, the Stoic is not disappointed, not disoriented, and not reactionary to the ups and downs of life, or the behavior and choices of others. This Stoic does not see these as "good" or "bad" things, but as symptoms of the nature of someone or something. This Stoic works with that.
As this is an Ordinal, Inspirational Attitude, it can see itself in anyone around, as Inspiration is merely reflection of potential used for benefit.
The Negative Pole Stoic has moved into Resignation and no longer bothers with the nuances and potential, but determines that everyone is the same, or potentially the same, and that there is no use or hope in seeing anything differently.
And, yes, this is both internal and external, Janet.
None of this is to say that a Stoic is not expressive or that she does not wish for more, have opinions, experience expectations, because there are several elements at play in a Personality, but the older Stoic in the Positive Pole WILL tend to aim for that recognition of the nature of a person or situation over the expectations and demands of that person or situation, while the older Stoic in the Negative Pole will tend to dismiss any effort to consider beyond a conclusion drawn.
Do you relate?
[Janet] Yes. Very much so.
[jesuislulu] Hello Michael, I felt the recent divergence quite viscerally. Feeling like I had begun walking away from this city and overall almost all aspects of political polarization. I would like you to elaborate on what the effects were regarding the current crossroads we are finding ourselves with such a polarized political situation. I have been living in a highly republican state feeling a fish out of water and am going tomorrow for a job interview in yet another state with a similar political climate. I was asked the other day what would be any different. Could you speak to the overall energetics of the Wilmington NC area?
All Old Souls are going to experience the "fish out of water" experience to some degree in a world that currently hosts only a maximum of 10% of an Old Soul perspective (mostly found in science fiction and non-religious metaphysical circles), no matter where one lives.
This will probably not change in your lifetimes.
One of the challenges of an Old Soul is how to balance the higher perspective of life that works for the Old Soul, while teaching it, which is inherently a part of every Old Soul to do in some way.
So the matter is not so much about what the rest of the world, or state, or county, or province, or city or town is doing or believing or practicing, but how you go about teaching what you want to teach.
[jesuislulu] ok I get this
[MEntity] Some of the truths learned by Old Souls is that their perspective (teaching) cannot be imposed, cannot be forced, and cannot be immediately understood or accepted.
[jesuislulu] hence the fish outta water
And that the teaching must come naturally, not from reaction, urgency, or manipulation.
By "naturally," we mean that it is born of example, conversation, encouragement, education, etc.
And most importantly: that not everyone wants to, or can, understand or learn your teaching.
If an Old Soul is in a body, he or she is teaching. It is not something that is necessary to organize or focus. It is quite difficult for most Old Souls NOT to live their own teachings, and this is their most consistent means of teaching.
However, some of the Old Souls' most difficult and challenging teachings is to move beyond the focus of how others are failing, and to continue learning, themselves.
The Old Soul who is distracted with the failings of others has stopped learning.
Not literally, but figuratively, in many ways.
All of this is barring the conditions of someone, or a group, somehow interfering with, or removing, your capacity for choice, or your Rights within that shared paradigm. In that case, it is no longer a matter of teaching, then, but a matter of putting into effect everything relevant that you have learned, as best you can.
You may not change the city, but you do not have to diminish your value as a person for the sake of someone else's imposed beliefs put into action. Beliefs are one thing, but when put into action that may interfere with your choice or Rights, then the choice to counter this, or not, becomes its own teaching.
We are speaking in broader contexts than your city in question, of course, but this is relevant to all of our students in the world, wherever they are.
The United States is quite clearly divided in its embodying of the shift from Young to Mature, with the Baby and Young on "one side" and the Mature and Old on the other. This is the most definitive we have seen it in a long time, but tends to be one of the symptoms of a paradigm shift forward, not backward.
By "forward" we mean more inclusive.
The more inclusive a paradigm, the more blatantly the exclusive are allowed to be.
This is true of your own Personalities, as well. You can be in your Positive Poles, and still throw a tantrum, because you know you will, eventually, make the choice that is the best you can make. You can be in your Positive Poles and still worry about a job interview, because it is fair to be uncertain about the future when it is dependent upon the decision of someone else, all the while still knowing you will adapt and evolve with whatever you may encounter.
The greater the inclusivity, the louder the exclusivity, both in the world, and in yourselves.
Because it knows it is safe, so to speak.
You are in the middle of an area that is quite unlike yourself, not for any other reason than that you have evolved to a point where this can be allowed in your world, even as you find great distaste for it.
We must conclude here for tonight.
Transcendental Soul Elaboration
By Jana
Politics and Political Systems
Creating Music

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