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The Political Round-Up
Downtown Y members sue;
Nodine wants trial moved;
Mobile lawyers in $15 billion Facebook suit; Dean not done? Eyes state Senate 35 opening; Wallace looms over mayor's race;
City Hall and the ruby red slippers
This and that along the political trail of late ...
A lawsuit by members of the Moorer Branch YMCA seeking to block the relocation of the downtown fitness facility is set for a hearing in Mobile County Circuit Court at 10 a.m. Friday, June 1.
The plaintiffs -- Dan McCleave, Jean Arnold and Dr. David Martin, III -- as representatives for members of the Moorer Branch of the YMCA of South Alabama ask Judge Rusty Johnston to bar the Board of Directors of the YMCA of South Alabama from moving the branch from its present location at Water Street to a smaller venue at the Kress Building on Royal St.
The named defendants are the YMCA of South Alabama, its board of directors, board chairman Ted Bennett, CEO Mark Hanke and Kress Investments.
The suit alleges a variety of irregularities in a secretive bid to sell out the downtown Y members to the benefit of other YMCA branches, particularly those in Baldwin County.
The YMCA of South Alabama has struggled under the weight of $5 million in debt. The present Moorer Branch building as been appraised at about $1.7 million. Its maintenance issues have reputedly also contributed to the Y's financial straits. The plaintiffs complain that they would lose many amenities in the move to a smaller facility, including covered, on-site parking.
Hanke declined comment.
Nodine wants trial moved elsewhere
Former Mobile County Commissioner Stephen Nodine, accused of murdering his paramour two years ago, has asked that the trial be moved because of "intense" publicity that has inflamed public opinion against him so that an impartial jury could not be seated.
Nodine's motion contends that 17,400 articles have been published in connection with Nodine and the alleged murder of Angel Downs at her townhouse in Gulf Shores on Mothers Day, May 9, 2010.
Nodine's defense argues that Downs died of a gun shot t the head by her own hand. A previous trial ended in a hung jury, 9-3 for conviction.
The defense notes that even the prosecution, now headed by Baldwin County District Attorney Hallie Dixon and not her predecessor in office, Judy Newcomb, concedes the inadvisability of obtaining a conviction only to have it overturned on appeal because an overriding atmosphere of prejudice in Baldwin County.
The motion cites a number of derogatory comments about Nodine that were posted in response to articles on al.com, including references to him as "a scumbag" deserving death and "a druggie, trashy, woman-abusing murderer."
A trial free of prejudice in which Nodine's right to due process is protected can only be gotten at a remove from Baldwin County and nearby counties, according to his lawyers.
Should the trial be moved, Dothan has been mentioned as the most likely site of a second trial.
Mobile law firm in $15 billion suit vs. Facebook
A Mobile law firm is involved on behalf of plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit filed in California on behalf of Facebook users whose digital privacy was allegedly violated by the massive social networking site.
In addition to co-lead counsel, the court has appointed a Plaintiffs' Steering Committee which includes Burns, Cunningham & Mackey of Mobile.
Filed in San Jose, CA Friday, the class action stems from "the revelation in September 2011 that Facebook was
improperly tracking the internet use of its members even after they logged out of their accounts," the action states.
The California filing consolidates 21 related cases lodged in more than a dozen states in 2011 and early 2012.
The plaintiffs assert claims under the federal Wiretap Act, which provides statutory damages per user of $100 per day per violation, up to a maximum per user of
$10,000.
"Even if Facebook's alleged actions constitute a single violation of the Wiretap Act per class member, that implies more than $15 billion in damages across
the class," the lawyers assert.
The class action is being led by court-appointed co-lead counsel Stewarts Law US LLP and Bartimus, Frickleton, Robertson & Gorny, P.C.
David Straite, a partner at Stewarts Law, said, "This is not just a damages action, but a ground-breaking digital privacy rights case that could have wide and significant legal and business implications."
Dean down, not out
Political veteran Mike Dean, trounced in his bid to extend his career representing south Mobile County on the Mobile County Commission, said he isn't necessarily ready to retire from politics.
Dean, 56, said he may run for the State Senate District 35 seat. A special election will be scheduled after present state Sen. Ben Brooks joins the Mobile County Circuit Court bench later this year. In April, Brooks won the GOP nomination for the circuit judgeship held by Judge Jim Wood. No Democrat qualified for the post, so Brooks is unopposed in November.
State Rep. Jim Barton, R-104, is already running for the Senate seat. It was whispered during the County Commission, District 3 campaign, ultimately won by political newcomer Jerry Carl, that Dean might seek to reclaim the House seat he once held if his county commission hopes were dashed.
However, Dean said he had his eye on the state Senate and claimed stronger credentials for the seat than Barton.
"A lot of people think I ought to run for the Senate as someone who is well-qualified, moreso than Barton," said Dean.
Barton declined an offer to respond.
Dean also noted that a Barton win would burden the taxpayers with the cost of yet another special election, as the need to fill the vacancy in House District 104 was created.
"If I decide to run again, it would probably be for Senate instead of the House," said Dean. "I haven't made my mind up yet. I'll wait til the first of the year and see how things look."
Despite the defeat, Dean was relieved to have the campaign over -- "It just feels like a whole piano has been taken off my back."
"I'm just keeping my options open and enjoying the time I have (remaining in office) between now and November," he said.
Led by well-known Baptist minister Fred Wolfe, supporters of Carl rallied "like it was a crusade for them," said Dean. "I've never campaigned against a pastor before. But I have no regrets. It was a great run, 12 years. Nobody thought I'd make two terms."
"I'm proud we didn't run a negative campaign and we had lots of opportunities to do that," said Dean. "We took the high road and decided to run on my record and I guess that wasn't good enough."
One consequence of Dean's political fall was the ouster of the Atchison Firm from all county legal work relating to District 3.
In a message to County Attorney Jay Ross last week, Dean advised, "Effective immediately, please direct any and all legal work that The Atchison Firm previously worked on, or would normally handle, to J. Michael Druhan. I do not want The Atchison Firm to work on legal matters regarding District 3. This is non-negotiable."
"I was shocked to find out (Jim Atchison was backing Carl)," said Dean. "Absolutely no loyalty. I was loyal to him for 12 years and he couldn't be loyal back to me. I don't want to jeopardize my last few months (in office)."
Dean said big things were on the horizon for Mobile County.
"Not a county in this state can compete with us," he said. "Absolutely none. We've got everything covered, everything in place. We're poised to go after some major, major opportunities. The chamber has 16 projects on line."
"It's just a matter of doing county business with people I can trust. Without that trust factor, you've got nothing. I didn't know he was going to treat me like that. I was also shocked at how many Republicans jumped ship on me for no reason at all."
Atchison said he had no comment for the time being.
Wallace may run for mayor
A former Mobile police officer resigned Friday as he mulls a potential campaign for mayor in city elections next summer.
Ron Wallace, 39, who stepped down after eight years in law enforcement, confirmed his interest in Mobile's mayorship.
"Yes, I'm thinking about it," he said, admitting that the move was "a little bit" tied to his political future.
"We need change," said Wallace. "If you are living in the city, you know that."
Incumbent Mayor Sam Jones has said he intends to seek a third term at City Hall in the August, 2013 elections.
Spending restraint, transparency and public safety would be the bedrock of his prospective campaign, said Wallace.
"We need to really watch how we're spending; that's a key factor to our future as a city," he said, adding that more transparency in municipal finances would result in greater credibility among the citizenry and ultimately a stronger and more united community.
"We need to be more transparent with the citizens and let them know what's going on," he said. "If we're doing things how we're supposed to be doing them, we shouldn't have anything to hide from anyone."
Wallace also pledged to forge "a good relationship" with the City Council, regarding them as colleagues and associates in the delivery of good government.
"We need to work together," he said. "You can't be at each other all the time. I know there will be disagreements from time to time, but you need to get past those, start fresh on the next issue and do what's best for the citizens and the city."
Wallace challenged for the City Council, District 3 seat in 2009. Although longtime incumbent Clinton Johnson was ousted, it was Jermaine Burrell, not Wallace, who emerged as a council newcomer.
An eight-year veteran of MPD, Wallace spent five years as a detective and three years in patrol. He also served for a time as a department spokesman.
Wallace said also that he would reach out to the community and city employees because their input could prove invaluable.
"'Help me help you' would be a slogan in my campaign and what I mean by that is I want your ideas," he said. "I want to take into consideration what people have to say. We may not do it (implement every suggestion), but the point is to ask the citizens to help you do the job. Give them some input with the city. After all, you have a stake in where you live, where your livelihood is."
Wallace said he would be a visible and supportive mayor, regularly encouraging and supporting city workers for their efforts.
Lastly, said Wallace, public safety would be paramount in a Wallace administration and "I just can't say that enough."
"There have been things going on in the city for the last several years, crime and all, that we cannot let stand," he said. "Coming from law enforcement, I would make sure that public safety was our No. 1 priority along with sound finances."
Wallace served in the U.S. Marines for eight years. A graduate of John S. Shaw High School, Wallace said he has some college credits but does not have a college degree. Wallace was a U.S. Olympic hopeful in 2000 in the 100-meter and 200-meter sprints.
Wallace said he had no timetable for reaching a decision and officially announcing his candidacy.
Through a spokesperson in the mayor's office, MBT extended an offer to Jones to comment. The mayor did not respond immediately.
Like Dorothy with her ruby red slippers, the city of Mobile apparently has had the power to close its eyes, and click its heels together three times and repeat 'there's no tax revenue like new tax revenue' and magically ... well, not land in Kansas ... but go home to a fully-funded government, or at least much closer to it.
On March 10, 2009, the city amended Storm Water Ordinance 65-007 assessing fees against residential and commercial properties under a formula assigning "equivalent runoff units" according to the properties' size and use.
If collected, the fees would generate more than $10 million annually. "If collected" is the critical point. Despite adopting the ordinance, the city never collected the revenue.
There is a little more to it than an oversight, according to Barbara Drummond, the city's Executive Director for Administrative Services and Community Affairs. Much as with a garbage collection fee, storm water fees are "cumbersome" to collect whereas with the sales tax, the system is already in place.
City Council President Reggie Copeland's recently disbanded advisory committee on city finances discovered the ordinance and included its enforcement among its recommended revenue enhancements and spending cuts.
The advisory committee forecast almost $10.5 million in storm water fees by 2016-17 -- nearly $3 million from residences and almost $7.5 million from commercial properties.
Drummond said much remained "up in the air" about how best to address the city's financial conundrum. However, plans were proceeding to increase employee health insurance contributions and to get the Legislature to approve the installation of cameras on traffic lights at 20 major intersections to ticket motorists who run red lights.
Currently, city workers here pay just 18 percent of the average of workers in other jurisdictions throughout Alabama, said Drummond.
According to Drummond, in order to project revenues from traffic fines generated by traffic light cameras, Mobile was studying results in Montgomery where the program is already in effect. The monies would be split 80/20 with 80 percent devoted to offsetting the $126 million unfunded liability on the Police and Fire Fighter Pension and 20 percent toward maintenance of the cameras and administrative costs.
Among the intersections where cameras would be installed are:
Airport Blvd. and McGregor Avenue, 83,000 cars pe day;
Dauphin St. and Springdale Blvd., 43,000 cars per day;
Airport and University Blvds., 89,000 cars per day;
Cottage Hill and Hillcrest Roads, 45,000 cars per day;
Azalea and Cottage Hill Roads, 43,000 cars per day.
This will be the second time the city has pushed for traffic light cameras. The first effort failed and included the puzzling opposition that the program constituted racial profiling.
It looks to be a long, hot summer at City Hall unless some good news (Airbus announcing that it will manufacture jets at Brookley Field?) falls like manna from the heavens.
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Q: Flutter test using bloc_test and mockito I'm having some issues using bloc_test and Mockito.
I have a bloc that has a use case dependency and I'm creating a mock of the Use Case with values to test it with.
This is my bloc:
class IssuesBloc extends Bloc<IssuesEvent, IssuesState> {
  final GetIssues _getIssues;

  IssuesBloc(this._getIssues) : super(IssuesInitial());

  @override
  Stream<IssuesState> mapEventToState(
    IssuesEvent event,
  ) async* {
     // here is my action code that is not the necesary to show for the question of my bloc
    }
}

This is my bloc mockito (I'm not sure how to pass the mockito use case to the MockIssuesBloc):
class MockIssuesBloc extends MockBloc<IssuesState> implements IssuesBloc {}

This is my use case with a list of data to test:
class MockGetIssues extends Mock implements GetIssues {
  Future<Either<AppError, List<IssuesModel>>> call(
      PageParams pageParams) async {
    return Future.delayed(
      const Duration(
        milliseconds: 100,
      ),
      () => right(
        [
          IssuesModel(id: 1),
          IssuesModel(id: 2),
          IssuesModel(id: 3),
          IssuesModel(id: 4),
          IssuesModel(id: 5),
          IssuesModel(id: 6),
          IssuesModel(id: 7),
          IssuesModel(id: 8),
          IssuesModel(id: 9),
          IssuesModel(id: 10),
          IssuesModel(id: 11),
          IssuesModel(id: 12),
          IssuesModel(id: 13),
          IssuesModel(id: 14),
          IssuesModel(id: 15),
          IssuesModel(id: 16),
          IssuesModel(id: 17),
          IssuesModel(id: 18),
          IssuesModel(id: 19),
          IssuesModel(id: 20),
        ].getRange(0, pageParams.take),
      ),
    );
  }
}

This is my test main (I have 3 different ways and get error in the 3):
void main() {
  group('IssuesBloc', () {
    MockIssuesBloc issuesBloc;
    MockGetIssues mockGetIssues;

    setUpAll(() {
      mockGetIssues = MockGetIssues();
      issuesBloc = MockIssuesBloc();
    });

    blocTest( // throws Bad state: Mock method was not called within `when()`. Was a real method called?
      'bloc: emits [IssuesInitial(), IssuesLoadedState(),] when successful',
      build: () {
        when(getIssues(PageParams()))
            .thenAnswer((value) async => right([IssuesModel(id: 1)]));
        return IssuesBloc(getIssues);
      },
      act: (bloc) => bloc.add(LoadIssues()),
      expect: [
        IssuesInitial(),
        isA<IssuesLoadedState>(),
      ],
    );

    // Bad state: Mock method was not called within `when()`. Was a real method called?
    test('when: emits [IssuesInitial(), IssuesLoadedState(),] when successful', () {
      when(mockGetIssues(PageParams()))
          .thenAnswer((value) async => right([IssuesModel(id: 1)]));
      final bloc = IssuesBloc(mockGetIssues);
      bloc.add(LoadIssues());

      emitsExactly(bloc, [
        IssuesInitial(),
        isA<IssuesLoadedState>(),
      ]);
    });

    // type '_BroadcastSubscription<Type>' is not a subtype of type 'StreamSubscription<IssuesState>'
    test("whenListen: emits [IssuesInitial(), IssuesLoadedState(),] when successful", () {

      whenListen(
        issuesBloc,
        Stream.fromIterable([IssuesInitial]),
      );

      expectLater(
        issuesBloc,
        emitsInOrder(
          [
            IssuesInitial,
            isA<IssuesLoadedState>()
          ],
        ),
      );
    });
  });
}

I also used the bloc without using mockito and in the 3 cases I get the next error: Bad state: Mock method was not called within when(). Was a real method called?
I'm not sure why I'm facing this issue

A: The underlying mock provided by MockBloc is a mock from the Mocktail package (https://pub.dev/packages/mocktail).
You need to use Mocktail's when to stub these's mocks. Mockito also provides a when method, but it's incompatible (thus the runtime error you received).

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Am I the only one who loves 2007-2010 Crowded House? | Frenz Forum
Am I the only one who loves 2007-2010 Crowded House?
The Pineapple HeadSecret God
I've seen on the forum a few people expressing their dislike for the 21st Century iteration of Crowded House. And I can't understand that. I genuinely love both of their albums and really feel like they were taking strides forward. I love the life and energy that Matt Sherrod brings. I still hope for a third album with the Finn/Seymour/Hart/Sherrod line up.
C'mon let's get some love for the now over a decade old "current" Crowded House.
F FreofanSecret God
As someone who discovered the band only in late 2017, I would be thrilled if they reunited again in any form. I have never seen them live. Seeing Neil live in September for the first time in NZ. If they reunite, no matter where the concert is, I'm buying a ticket immediately!
PS I love Time on Earth. I have not explored Intriguer enough.
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HavelinThat's What I Call Love
You are not the only one! Of course we all miss Paulo, but this different incarnation of the band is still my favorite band! I live in hope that they reunite and make another album sometime soon. In 2007–2008, I saw them a bunch of times and another bunch in 2010. With the announcement that they are to play the Sydney Opera House show in Australia on tv pretty soon, I am still kicking myself that I didn't go to Australia... I think it was November 2015? 2016? I'm sure that was an amazing show and anyone who went is so lucky. Rest assured, when they reunite again (WHEN!) I'm sure a lot of us will be traveling far and wide to see them more! 😃❤
I know the feeling. In 2007, they performed 20 minutes from me, but I didn't know them then. They also performed multiple times in a major city a few hours away multiple times both tours. Kills me to think of it now!
EnzboySomething So Strong
Personally I would disagree with the above posts regarding the 2007+ era of Crowded House. I have seen Crowded House several times (1989 Concert of the Decade, 1991, 1993, 1996 Farewell To The World) & I followed everything they did, collected everything I possibly could & I would happily say that nothing will ever beat the 1986 - 1996 era of Crowded House. They were catchy pop songs from a band that were looking for stardom, trying to get somewhere starting from nothing.
The 2007 - 2010 era is very different with 2 albums of fillers that could not be considered to be anywhere near the catchiness of the songs that appeared on the first 4 albums. I even rate the Afterglow album better than Time on Earth & Intriguer.
Time on Earth & Intriguer (for me) were albums where Neil & Nick & Mark did not have anything more to prove as they were never going to reach the same heights of the first 4 albums (with Paulo). It was just a band playing a few new songs to keep the fans happy. They weren't creating anything better, just a new version of Crowded House with different songs that just did not quite fit the same mould as what we have heard previously.
Even though I liked the idea of Crowded House re-uniting, I saw them in 2010 in Brisbane & I did not enjoy it as much as what I should have due to the sound mixing being extremely loud especially knowing that Matt Sherrod likes to really bash the drums & he sounds so much louder than he should which drowns out the sound. I was born hearing impaired & I found my ears were just ringing badly with the sound piercing my eardrums in 2010.
I applaud them for giving it a go but the songs for me are just no match for the pre 2007 releases.
I also saw them in 2007 (Live On Earth) & 2010.
R renzoAddicted
I just revisited the last 2 CD's. Firstly, I find that TOE is much better than Intriguer. It seems more raw and real....as if it was more hastily created and recorded which to me makes the songs sound better. The only hiccup for me on TOE is She Called Up (the song that seemed to try too hard to be Crowded Houseish) They should have replaced that with Lost Island and it would have been a classic. Intriguer seems too polished and worked on for too long (tried the songs out on the road for too long....then seemed like they went into the studio too prepared). So that CD just does not seem to do resonate as much for me....I even seem to get a bit down by listening to it.
For both CD's, seems like they sound like a mature Crowded House. This probably reflects the fact that Neil had matured even more as a musician and songwriter. The rest of the band too had gone through more maturity too having been in other bands etc.
So the past CD's especially debut, Together Alone and Afterglow are, to me, leaps ahead of the last 2, in terms of lasting power. TOE has creaped up there though.
Pajama Club to be is ahead of TOE and Intriguer in terms of lasting power...once again, less polished. All the classics are the less polished CD's....to me.
slowpogoAddicted
I love Time on Earth, and as an album I even like it more than their debut — the debut's first 4 tracks are classic but I don't need the rest. None of TOE reaches the band's greatest heights, but it's solid all the way through & there are some really great highlights: Nobody Wants To, Pour Le Monde, People are Like Suns. I enjoy all the other songs, including You're the One to Make Me Cry. TOE is the last album of Neil's I really loved.
I enjoyed the Intriguer process, hearing early versions of the songs, etc, but the final product was a let-down. Even tracks that really felt like classic CH in the development stage, like Amsterdam, somehow fell flat on the album. I've never gone back to it.
I think they have one more album in them — I hope anyway — and I think they could still do something great. I hope it happens in the next few years.
I love Don't Stop Now and Nobody Wants To, among others on that album. I'm looking forward to seeing Neil perform live in September, even if part of FM.
4/18/1910:15 PM
JL Jeremy LoderAddicted
I really like Time On Earth but Intriguer is just pleasant background music to me with no standout tracks like all the other albums. My only issue with Time On Earth is that Mark and Matt only appear on four tracks. I know that it started off as a Neil solo album with Nick guesting before Neil decided to reform the band. But I was disappointed that they didn't get Mark and Matt to add to or replace parts on all of the album. Instead their appearance feels token and an afterthought. I guess as Neil and Nick are both original band members they can justify calling it Crowded House. But to me it under values Mark's role in the band.
PH Paul HAddicted
I can't really think of TOE as a CH album because, well, it isn't. All bar four songs were recorded by Neil as a solo album, which was only badged as a CH record when he decided - post recording but pre-release - to reform the band. His choices were either to release the album but abandon it promo-wise, or call it a CH album and persuade the band to tour it.
But a CH album it ain't.
So tired of this, but I'll repeat my counter-argument for the 30th time. The entire thing features two of the original three members, and more importantly, it SOUNDS like Crowded House through and through regardless of the branding. Would anyone claim Nobody Wants To *doesn't* sound like classic CH, with "only" Neil and Nick? This is why Neil went that direction, because to paraphrase a quote from him at the time, "everyone was thinking it, that it sounded and felt like Crowded House." Call me crazy but I'll go with Neil Finn's assessment over that of his more hair-splitting fans.
So you don't consider Mark Hart a proper CH member or a key ingredient of the CH sound from at least 93 onward? Yes with Neil and Nick TOE has two original members and I never disputed that. But as Mark rejoined the reunited band I was disappointed as a fan that he didn't get to play on the whole album or at least more than four tagged on tracks. I think he deserved better and the fans did too.
The funny thing is tho that paradoxically TOE sounds like more of a band album than Intriguer.
The most disappointing thing to me about CH since they reformed is that they've now been reduced to just one of Neil's side projects that will be picked up and put down at Neil's fancy. Maybe it's just me but I think the band's legacy deserves a bit better.
Jeremy Loder posted:
If the original intention had been to reform the band, Mark would have and should have been there from day one, certainly. But it worked out in a more complicated way than that. It happened how it happened and I'm sure nobody had anything against Mark. And don't forget, the recording is only part of the TOE story, they toured extensively on that album with Mark and Matt In the band, so all things considered Mark was a major player in that part of the band's career — not to mention literally everything they've done since then. So I think seeing TOE as slighting Mark is taking a pretty narrow view of things. I'm pretty confident that if someone asked Mark about it (please don't) he'd say he's just happy to be a part of it in any way, he understands he's in the band at Neil's pleasure and he holds no resentment whatsoever. And I find the assertion that fans "deserve" anything pretty gross, honestly...I don't personally think fans should feel entitled to *anything* except possibly a bit of appreciation, which Neil and the band show amply.
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Thanks for the condescension. I'm familiar with the sad circumstances that led to Neil and Nick reuniting. I don't doubt that Neil respects and values Mark. I just think it would have been better to let him add more to the album. Just my opinion but I doubt I'm alone. I agree that Mark would never complain, he comes across as to nice of a guy. Everything they've done since? You can only be talking about touring and the one album since.
Maybe deserve wasn't the right word but don't know why you took such offence. It's just my opinion. I respect the hell outta Neil. Never used the word entitled and I agree fans shouldn't feel that way and I don't.
Do you not feel it's sad CH is now basically just a Neil side project?
By the way I find it kinda gross when fans (or fan) can't handle and respect other fans opinions. I'm starting to remember part of the reason I stopped posting for a while and may well do again.
Also the 2016 Sydney performance. I wasn't offended. This has clearly deteriorated so I'll just say, feel better dude.
The 2016 shows were indeed awesome, at least the show they showed on tv and what I saw of the others on Youtube. But they never got a cd/dvd release.
Never my intention to offend you. Just calling a spade a spade. Respect isn't a hard thing to have for others opinions. Sorry you find it difficult. I have no problem with you having a different opinion to me. Just you not respecting mine.
Feel better? Bro I'm all good. It's gonna take more than a disagreement on a music forum to spoil my day. And I hope that's true for you too👍.
Just cos someone stands their ground, it doesn't follow their not feeling good.
slowpogo posted:
Personally, I don't feel that "sounds like" and "features x number of members" are good enough reasons. "Yesterday" featured only one Beatle and didn't sound ANYTHING like a Beatles song up to that point. And yet it IS a Beatles song because it was recorded by a member of that band with the intention of being issued as one of their songs. (Compared to, say, Beautiful Night which featured twice as many Beatles but was recorded by them in their capacity as solo artists and was never intended to be issued as a Beatles song.)
The vast majority of TOE was recorded by Neil using session players (one of whom just happened to have been Nick) with the intention of being the next Neil solo album. Whether it sounded like CH or not is, to me, irrelevant.
As far as I'm concerned, for the 31st time , it's the INTENT that's key. Put another way: if Neil had issued the record as a solo project, would you have been complaining for the 30th time that it should have been a CH record because it sounded like them and had Nick on it?
(And for the record, no, I don't think Nobody Wants To sounds like ANYTHING in CH's catalogue up to that point. Name me one other mid tempo ballad in their 86-96 catalogue. That's not to say that I don't think its a fabulous song: I do. But I think it sounds just like solo Neil and nothing like CH.)
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Paul H posted:
It's Crowded House because it was issued by the band and the record company as Crowded House.
It doesn't have to sound like CH or include all the members anymore than Yesterday or Eleanor Rigby has to sound like or include all the Beatles. It's the fact that it was originally issued as CH and subsequently promoted by the whole band world wide that makes it theirs. They issued it, they own.
Okay. Let's back track. I clearly recall Neil saying in an interview at the time of the release of Try Whistling This that his record company - Parlophone - had asked him to keep using the CH name even though he'd split the band. Neil acknowledged that this would be the most commercially sound thing to do but - in acknowledgement of the contribution of the other band members and the special rapport the band had with its audience - he didn't feel he could do that.
He was clearly acknowledging that CH wasn't just him and whoever he chose to work with at that time. As a huge fan of the band, I was immensely grateful to Neil for that decision and its why - all these years later - I have a hard time accepting the fact that he chose to classify recordings that weren't made while CH was active and only featured one other member as band recordings.
You're right that it doesn't have to include all the members or sound like them: if Crowded House were recording an album but decided that, on a particular song, it only needed, say, Neil and his piano - that's fine. But to make an entire solo record and then after the fact decide to call it a band record for no other reason than convenience isn't the same. It angered me then and it angers me now. I'm actually surprised that fans of the band can feel so blase about this.
If we accept TOE as a CH album, where do we draw the line? Could every album Neil has made be a CH album in our minds if he'd made a different decision back in 1998 and decided to keep using that name? For me, no.
Z ZephyrSecret God
I recall Neil saying at the time of TOE being released that things changed when Paul died and that he felt different about 'resurrecting' the Crowded House name.
I personally couldn't care less under whose name TOE was released. It remains one of my favourite Neil albums and the album I am most likely to revisit.
I agree its a good record, although I do think it's too long. Of course, we'd all remove different songs (and many, I suspect, would remove none). I also think CH had the makings of a great record in Intriguer but, for my money, made all the wrong decisions: picked the wrong versions of Saturday Sun and Isolation, and then included weaker tracks at the expense of some of the best songs from the sessions (The Intriguer, Turn it Around and Eyes Grow Heavy). Again, I could easily compile a terrific album from the sessions.
I would definitely remove She Called Up from TOE....cheapens the record....and then the video came out, and harmed the record even more. I do think it was Neil's way of purposely recording a Crowded House sounding song. I would like to know if it was the last one to include. One last time: replace it with Lost Island or the other B side song, and it would complete the album. Also, have People Are Like Suns piano solo version, and TOE could have been close to a classic Crowded House album.
c.houserAddicted
Isn't Lost Island already on TOE?
I was surprised at how many in the 2007 audience knew the song She Called Up in Atlanta.
I suppose that was a gathering place for Regional fans, and we'd all bought the album (or CD, or apple music download). So come back, already! We're Still Here!
PaināporoAddicted
I say add "Stare Me Out", "Lost Island" and "So Dramatic" and make it a double album! The vinyl has both "Stare Me Out" and "Lost Island" included. It's a great set!
I mean, I love "She Called Up". It was a shot of energy that the album needed to sound more like Crowded House. Saying it should be removed is akin to saying "Black & White Boy" or "Tall Trees" should be removed for their respective albums. And yet, without those songs, my 15 year old self might have never engaged with those albums.
Is it just me or does She Called Up have a very Something So Strong vibe about it?
TB Thom BullockAddicted
My gateway drug to CH was the 2006 Farewell to the World release - I'd heard of them before, but hadn't listened to them in a decade or so, and FTTW came out around my 18th birthday. So Time on Earth and Intriguer are the two records I've experienced in "real time" so to speak.
And I love those albums, because that whole era was great. In additional to ancillary personal memories, they make me think of the first streamed in studio gig, following all the other pre tour gigs in '07, the great tour, the new material shows in '08, all the waiting in '09, getting a couple of sneak peaks of Intriguer at Neil's Bush Hall Show in '10, and the great '10 tour that followed.
It was a brilliant 4 years to be a CH fan, and the records remind me of that.
Do they stand alone pretty well too? I think so, but in truth I couldn't possibly hope to be objective.
That's what I thought too....trying too hard to get close to what has been done in the past. I wonder what Neil's honest opinion is of that song. I am only guessing but I think he does not look back on it too fondly. You don't hear about him play that one live anytime or anywhere. Someone should request him to play it on his site and see what his reaction is...
You guys know what that song's about, right? My 10-yr old daughter has always wanted to ask Neil why he made the song so upbeat?
The video was pretty funny and the curtains made a nice touch.
I wish that CH was Neil's main project and those other projects his side projects. Apparently he mentioned at one of the last CH gigs that it would be a very long time before another album or tour. I hope so soon -- they aren't getting any younger.
GR Gathering RainSecret God
Time on Earth is a great Crowded House album and a great album full stop. The artificial boundaries around what is and isn't a Crowded House album perplex me. 2/3 original members and 2/3 available members recorded those songs.
Intriguer is kinda meh because I get the feeling that Neil is guessing at what "we" want and trying to force it in too many songs. In reality, what I want from CH pt 2 is Neil's songwriting genius presented through the prism of the personalities we know and love.
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Gathering Rain posted:
Intriguer era had a weird feeling of self sabotage running through it also - between Neil's moustache, Twice If You're Lucky being...less commercially exploited than it could have been with a different arrangement, etc.
Interesting point. I think Neil went into TOE with a view to making a solo record which, in his later opinion, just happened to sound a bit like CH. However, when it came to actually being in CH and writing for them, I think he automatically rebelled against what he thought listeners expected of them. It sort of contradicts his assertion that he broke up the band in 1996 because his new batch of songs "didn't sound like CH songs". A very complex place, the mind...
SS Steve ShealyAddicted
Here's a thought. Maybe Neil feels that trying to "catch lightening in a bottle" twice just isn't working. CH Mark I was amazing, but it was 3 or 4 youngish musicians that this was their LIFE and livelihood. Being well established and financially secure, CH Mark II just sort of seems like a hobby, and there's just too many other projects going on (for Neil, anyway).
Fair enough. Maybe a bit off topic but am I the only one who feels that Crowded House could have gone on in 1996 with Mark or someone else as the lead singer, a la Genesis?
As great a singer and talent as Mark is, that wouldn't have worked. Hessie was gone so Nick would've been the only original member left. You can't have a CH without Neil.
On a side note, I love See Ya Round but find it hard to consider it an Enz album. It has no original band members. And Split Enz without Tim is as wrong as CH without Neil.
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By that addage , Now We're getting Somewhere , Weather With You , and There Goes God aren't Crowded House songs. There are others too . Time On Earth features 2 of the origional 3 band members on every song , which is more than can be said for other albums in their catalogue. TOE had a confused begining in terms of identity, but so did the debut album and woodface by all accounts.
In response to the intitial poster on this thread - Rest assured there are thousands who love Crowded House now as they did then . I'm one of them . They are my favourite band currently in existence , and i think Intriguer is a masterpiece - criminally underrated.
We haven't seen the last of them - Neil has said as much , and I can't wait for the next time they work together.
P.S. Nobody Wants to sounds TOTALLY like Crowded House ! I've always thought that it would fit perfectly on Woodface - very much in the vein of FAYF or FSIOD
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Yes! It's got that marriage between a concise, hummable melody, and lyrics which are simple and economical but still say so much. It's also similar to BBHS that way (and pretty much the same tempo actually). The arrangement and effects might be updated but it screams classic CH to me. It's the songwriting "mode" that made me fall in love with CH and doesn't seem to happen much with Neil in recent years (Terrorise Me is one recent example).
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I totally agree about the songwriting style . I actually think that sonically / production - wise its also reminiscent of woodface . Similar short delay on the guitar riff , plaintive fairly dry drum sound etc .
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Like a former British ambassador to Russia, the US's man in Moscow is being hounded by stooges of the Russian state.
April 3, 2012	9:40 pm
It would be nice if implausible to think that Russian diplomats in the US take up miscarriages of justice, help those appealing from death row, or observe how officials in Florida are handling the case of Trayvon Martin, a black teenager shot in what many see as an unprovoked attack by a white vigilante.
If they did that, rather than focusing on their main activities (padding their expense accounts and spying), they might attract some media coverage. It might even be caustic. But no Russian official, whatever interest he showed in US domestic affairs, would experience the sneering, bullying treatment meted out to the US's ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul.
The pseudo-journalists of the NTV television channel have been stalking McFaul, with access (presumably from Russian official eavesdroppers) to his private schedule. Last week they doorstepped him as he arrived for a meeting with a distinguished opposition figure in Moscow, and asked the same questions again and again: "Why are you meeting him? What are you going to discuss?" It had the whiff of George Orwell's "Animal Farm". Shivering in the snow, McFaul answered their questions, first politely and then with exasperation. But they were not interested – they were in effect chanting: "four legs good, two legs bad".
I concede that I am a fan and friend: I have known McFaul since we were students in Krakow in 1986. But even if I had never met him I would feel strongly about the way he is being treated. It echoes the bullying of Tony Brenton, Britain's ambassador to Moscow in 2004-08. He was hounded by members of Nashi, the thuggish pro-Putin youth movement, who wanted him to "apologise" for his contacts with the Russian opposition.
Any ambassador worth his salt meets with a wide range of people. The Russian ambassador to the US could quite reasonably meet with the firebrand black preacher Al Sharpton and, for that matter, with the leaders of the Tea Party, or "birthers" who believe that Barack Obama is a foreign Muslim. (Or he could recommend them for interview on Russia Today, where they would fit in nicely with the other kooks.)
The US's official line in the past has been sympathetic to the Russian opposition. But it is also the case that McFaul was the architect of the 're-set' in which the US tried to stop disagreements about human rights impeding the wider US-Russian relationship. Many hawks in America see him (largely unfairly in my view) as an arch-appeaser as a result. It is odd that the man who risked his career and reputation to improve Russian-American relations is now being persecuted as if he were a Georgia-hugging Cold Warrior from the outer fringes of the Republican Party.
The State Department has not exactly leaped to McFaul's defence. Some of its professional linguists are snooty about his command of Russian. Others, more senior, are nervous about his use of Twitter. In a world that prizes blandness in public utterances, and where every word in a press release is mulled and polished, the idea that an official can let rip with 140 characters-worth of unvarnished opinion is scary. Tough: it is time that diplomacy caught up with social networking. People actually read McFaul's blog and tweets because they are lively, human and interesting. They do not read State Department press releases, because they are the opposite.
Ultimately, the NTV tactics are going to backfire. Even when edited unflatteringly, the clips do not show a demonic manipulator, but a polite and decent man slowly losing his temper in the face of gratuitous rudeness. For the Russian regime's spin-doctors, that is a defeat, not a victory.
The writer is central and eastern Europe correspondent of The Economist.
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Q: Chef: delayed service notification This is my mongodb cookbook recipe:
node.default['mongodb3']['version'] = '3.4.2'
node.default['mongodb3']['repo'] = 'https://repo.mongodb.org/yum/redhat/$releasever/mongodb-org/3.4/x86_64/'

node.default['mongodb3']['config']['mongod']['net']['port'] = 30158
node.default['mongodb3']['config']['mongod']['net']['bindIp'] = 'localhost'
node.default['mongodb3']['config']['mongod']['security']['authorization'] = 'enabled'

include_recipe 'mongodb3::default'

cookbook_file "/tmp/setupUsers.js" do
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end

execute "Add Mongo Users" do
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end

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==> default:
==> default:     [execute] MongoDB shell version v3.4.2
==> default:               connecting to: localhost:30158
==> default:               2017-03-06T10:56:56.875+0000 W NETWORK  [thread1] Failed to connect to 127.0.0.1:30158, in(checking socket
for error after poll), reason: Connection refused
==> default:               2017-03-06T10:56:56.879+0000 E QUERY    [thread1] Error: couldn't connect to server localhost:30158, connec
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==> default:
==> default:     Mixlib::ShellOut::ShellCommandFailed
==> default:     ------------------------------------
==> default:     Expected process to exit with [0], but received '1'
==> default:     ---- Begin output of mongo localhost:30158 /tmp/setupUsers.js ----
==> default:     STDOUT: MongoDB shell version v3.4.2
==> default:     connecting to: localhost:30158
==> default:     2017-03-06T10:56:56.875+0000 W NETWORK  [thread1] Failed to connect to 127.0.0.1:30158, in(checking socket for error
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==> default:     connect@src/mongo/shell/mongo.js:237:13
==> default:     @(connect):1:6
==> default:     STDERR: exception: connect failed
==> default:     ---- End output of mongo localhost:30158 /tmp/setupUsers.js ----
==> default:     Ran mongo localhost:30158 /tmp/setupUsers.js returned 1
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==> default:     # In /var/chef/cache/cookbooks/berk/recipes/security.rb
==> default:
==> default:       6: execute "Add Mongo Users" do
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==> default:     # Declared in /var/chef/cache/cookbooks/berk/recipes/security.rb:6:in `from_file'
==> default:
==> default:     execute("Add Mongo Users") do
==> default:       action [:run]
==> default:       retries 0
==> default:       retry_delay 2
==> default:       default_guard_interpreter :execute
==> default:       command "mongo localhost:30158 /tmp/setupUsers.js"
==> default:       backup 5
==> default:       returns 0
==> default:       user nil
==> default:       declared_type :execute
==> default:       cookbook_name "berk"
==> default:       recipe_name "security"
==> default:     end
==> default:
==> default:     Platform:
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==> default:     x86_64-linux
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==> default: [2017-03-06T10:56:56+00:00] INFO: Running queued delayed notifications before re-raising exception
==> default: [2017-03-06T10:56:56+00:00] INFO: template[/etc/mongod.conf] sending restart action to service[mongod] (delayed)
==> default: Recipe: mongodb3::default
==> default:   * service[mongod] action restart
==> default: [2017-03-06T10:56:57+00:00] INFO: service[mongod] restarted
==> default:
==> default:     - restart service service[mongod]
==> default: [2017-03-06T10:56:57+00:00] INFO: template[/opt/wildfly/standalone/configuration/standalone-full.xml] sending restart act
ion to service[wildfly] (delayed)

Why this service is not started until the end of chef configuration? I need to connect to mongo after mongod services is started
I've took a look on mongodb3 cookbook. According to this line (default recipe of mongodb3 recipe), the service should start immediatly.
EDIT
I'm using mongodb3 recipe. mongodb3 default recipe:
service 'mongod' do
  case node['platform']
    when 'ubuntu'
      if node['platform_version'].to_f >= 15.04
        provider Chef::Provider::Service::Systemd
      elsif node['platform_version'].to_f >= 14.04
        provider Chef::Provider::Service::Upstart
      end
  end
  supports :start => true, :stop => true, :restart => true, :status => true
  action :enable
  subscribes :restart, "template[#{node['mongodb3']['mongod']['config_file']}]", :delayed
  subscribes :restart, "template[#{node['mongodb3']['config']['mongod']['security']['keyFile']}", :delayed
end

A: I don't see service[mongod] anywhere in your recipe, but I suppose you have the following lines somewhere:
 service 'mongod' do
   action [:enable, :start]
 end

At this point Chef starts the service, but it may need some time to become fully running and responding to requests. Chef does not wait for that and continues to run the recipes.
You can try your execute[Add Mongo Users] several times, until it succeeds like this:
execute "Add Mongo Users" do
  command "mongo localhost:30158 /tmp/setupUsers.js"
  retries 6 #times
  retry_delay 10 #seconds
end

This will give your service a minute to start, before Chef will fail.
Important: You should also come up with some guard to the execute[Add Mongo Users], because otherwise it will run on every Chef run.
EDIT (After you showed the service[mongod] resource.)
It does not have the start action, that's why it is not started. So add the
service 'mongod' do
  action :start
end

somewhere before the execute[Add Mongo Users] resource.


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Thanx for the observations here. Not sure I deal with them by the same means as you, but you are causing things to gel for me that previously had not.
I am thinking about the changes that have come over church outreach models in the last decade esp. The book When Helping Hurts caused my church to shut down all the outreach ministries and revamp them almost a decade ago. And this happened when my church began questioning our ends.
Then I found my new church promoting the Seeking Shalom course put out by the Lupton Center because they want their outreach to be EFFECTIVE.
I don't see this as a question Jesus addresses – certainly not in anyway like these books and courses. I see him heal ten lepers, only one returns to say thanx! Jesus definitely notes this, but I see no evidence that it causes him to change his means of sharing love and salvation.
Now we offer classes all designed to tell us not to help too much, not to give money to the poor, to aim at getting them a job and thus dignity etc rather than enabling them. You know… just like Jesus says!
All this seems sparked by an analysis of the ENDS that seems so UNSATISFYING to … to… to US! And thus we change our MEANS to suit the ENDS WE think WE want.
Your post is helping me clarify this thinking.
This is all very interesting. I've read When Helping Hurts and enjoyed it. But then again, I read a bit differently – I read for the parts I can take and utilize and scrap the rest – I do that with any book though. The part that was helpful to me was the beginning when they talk about how we are all broken in four relationships – with God, with self, with others, and with the rest of humanity. I think that makes a lot of sense and it is what allows us to then go and be with others in their brokenness as well. We accompany each other in our brokenness and are able to tap into each other's value because of the imago dei. Thinking more about the book, I can see where you are coming from. Apparently I applied the concept of brokenness in relationship far different than what the authors do.
Certainly different than the authors and different from any of the churches influenced by it that I have interaction with.
I will grant that not EVERY word of it is garbage, but in my estimation… if you are only getting something good from five or six pages (or less) and if you could get that good part somewhere else anyway (which you can) and esp if the rest of it is damaging stuff, then I am inclined to chuck it.
I will say this for Rev Phelps and the Westboro Baptists – they have a tenacious faith! I really mean that. I even admire it. But you aren't likely to find me enthused about anything else they stand for.
Yes, WHH makes an attempt at theologically grounding their program in shalom. To that extent I say yes. However, I would encourage you to check out my recent post called Cruciformed for a much more thorough analysis of what is wrong there and what should replace it.
Thanx for your post and your comment.
Part of this is that I try to see the silver lining in everything, so if I can find something good out of a book, then that's great. I apply it in a way that works. I hear what you are saying though. I'll have to go back and do some re-reading. It's not always back to keep books that are off the mark though either, especially if they are influencial – just to stay on top of how people are thinking and are able to work around it or confront it.
As for cruciformed, I'm familiar with that idea. We studied this in seminary – not that book in particular, but others, like Inhabiting the Cruciform God. This is a book by Gorman. It's pretty good. Another book by Gorman is "Becoming the Gospel." Another good one. Other books that aren't directly related, but I think fit in are books on Luther's theology of the cross. The one by McGrath is a classic and thick with great theology. Luther and the Hungry Poor by Torvend is another book that takes the historical perspective on this from Luther's time and living out the Gospel with the poor.
The means are the end in the process of becoming….this is why we will never be able to bomb our way to peace. This is why we cant shame, blame and humiliate people into treating us with respect and love. it's why Jesus tells us that as we forgive, we are forgiven.
As you say…the means matter. The ends never justify the means, ultimately the means are the ends.


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Roller Coasters Rule - Cedar Point, Sandusky Traveller.
Cedat Point is better known at the roller coaster capital of the world. In this list we take a look at the top 5 Cedar Point roller coasters.
We did head back to the park so Daddy could ride some of the big coasters, though. It wouldn't be a trip to Cedar Point without some thrilling roller coasters! He went on just about every single roller coaster in sight, and only waited a brief couple of minutes with his Fast Pass wrist band.
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Cedar Point is an amusement park located on a peninsula in northern Ohio in the town of Sandusky. It's known for its large, world-class collection of roller coasters, but there's much more to Cedar Point than thrill rides. When we visited for the first time this August, we were expecting an amusement park, but frankly, we were amazed at the variety of activities to enjoy. While the.
Cedar Point: Wild and wonderful roller coasters - See 8,901 traveller reviews, 3,092 candid photos, and great deals for Sandusky, OH, at Tripadvisor.
Cedar Point: Roller coasters! - See 8,902 traveler reviews, 3,092 candid photos, and great deals for Sandusky, OH, at Tripadvisor.
Get this from a library! The roller coasters of Cedar Point. -- Known around the globe as the worldwide leader in roller coasters, Cedar Point is a coaster-lovers dream come true. Whether you crave the tallest and fastest scream machine in the universe, Top.
Cedar Point knows roller coasters. The popular Ohio park is loaded with them. But Top Thrill Dragster is a different breed of thrill machine. Like some mutant monster that emerged from a pile of radioactive goo, it sits smack dab in the middle of the park's midway looking impossibly tall and menacing. There is no slow click-clack-click ascent up a lift hill; no teetering-at-the-top followed by.
Cedar Point has been voted the best amusement park in the world by roller coaster enthusiasts for 10 years in a row and it seems to be many peoples favorite park, and on paper it is easy to see why - the park has the largest collection of roller coasters in any amusement park (sometimes outdone or equaled by Six Flags Magic Mountain in California), as well as the largest selection of rides in.
Found in Sandusky, Ohio, Cedar Point is the flagship park of one of the largest park chains in the world, Cedar Fair. It opened in 1870, which makes it one of the oldest amusement parks in the country. Over the past 143 years, Cedar Point has established itself as the roller coaster capital of the world, boasting some of the most innovative roller coasters ever built.
Cedar Point ranks second in the world for the most roller coasters at seventeen, which is two coasters behind Six Flags Magic Mountain. However, Cedar Point boasts five coasters ranked in the top twenty-five. It has six coasters taller than 200 feet and is the only park to have roller coasters in all four of the height classifications. It's also the second oldest amusement park and the most.
Cedar Point is an amusement park located in Sandusky, Ohio, USA. The park opened in 1870 and is the second oldest amusement park in North America after Lake Compounce.Cedar Point is the flagship park for Cedar Fair and, along with Valleyfair, was one of the original parks owned and operated by the company.It is one of two Cedar Fair parks in Ohio, the other being Kings Island.
Cedar Point, America's roller coaster kingdom, Sandusky Ohio. Saturday, September 10, 2011. 5390. Cedar Point, the name synonymous with almost any theme park goer or thriller seeker around the world. With more than 17 major roller coasters located in the theme park, it is literally America's roller coaster capital, spotting the world record for the most number of roller coasters in one.
Cedar Point is a peninsula in northern Ohio located along Lake Erie, as well as an amusement park at the same location. It is located near Sandusky, Ohio. In the nineteenth century, Cedar Point served as the site for a lighthouse and as a port for fishermen. In 1867, the peninsula became linked to a small railroad. This transportation forever changed the rural area. Within a few years.
So we finally arrive at the Mecca of roller coaster parks.Cedar Point. But first! Storytime! Chicago traffic was bad.REALLY bad. So we ended up getting to the hotel late - like around 2am. But when we get there.the power is out! Not just to the hotel, but to the surrounding city of Sandusky! Fortunately, the hotel had already made up our keys and the doors worked off battery power so we.
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Suspected drug-driver Charlie Newby, 18, charged with six offences following police chase through Kesgrave
PUBLISHED: 18:49 01 September 2017 | UPDATED: 18:49 01 September 2017
Gemma Mitchell
Police requested the car to stop near the junction of Main Road and Bell Lane in Kesgrave. Picture: LUCY TAYLOR
A teenager who was captured with the help of a member of the public after being chased by police through Kesgrave has been charged with six offences, including driving while on drugs.
Charlie Newby, aged 18 and of no fixed abode in north Essex, has been remanded in custody and is due to appear before Ipswich Magistrates' Court tomorrow.
At around 1.50pm yesterday, police had cause to request a blue Ford Focus to stop near the junction of Main Road and Bell Lane in Kesgrave. The vehicle failed to do so, colliding with a police motorcycle before driving off down Bell Lane.
The vehicle was then pursued by officers along Bell Lane, then into Monument Farm Lane, before being brought to a stop in Purdis Farm Lane.
The driver fled the Ford Focus before being caught with the help of a member of the public, whose black BMW 3 Series was damaged during the incident.
Two teenagers were arrested by police in connection with this incident and taken to Martlesham Police Investigation Centre for questioning.
Newby has subsequently been charged with dangerous driving, driving whilst unfit through drugs, driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence, driving without insurance, failing to stop for police and criminal damage to a BMW 3 Series.
The second arrested teenager, a 17-year-old boy from the Saxmundham area, has been released under investigation pending further enquiries.
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Q: GOOGLE Finance Sheets returns same stock price on different days I am trying to run a GoogleFinance query in GOOGLE Sheets to get the stock price for the same stock. I wish to display the stock price in different rows of column A:

*

*On day 1 I will enter the formula in cell A1

*On day 2 I will enter the formula in cell A2

Here is the basic formula I need to use in A1 and A2:
=GOOGLEFINANCE("F", "price")

On Monday Dec 11, 2017, I entered this formula in cell A1 and it gave 12.54 in cell A1.
On Wedns. Dec 13, 2017, I entered this formula in cell A2 and it gave 12.68 in cell A2 BUT it also changed cell A1 from 12.54 to 12.68. So, now both A1 and A2 shows the same number - 12.68.
I want:
A1 = 12.54  // enter formula into this cell on Monday
A2 = 12.68  // enter formula into this cell on Wednesday

Is this possible with GOOGLEFINANCE()?

A: The GOOGLEFINANCE function takes a date or range of dates:

GOOGLEFINANCE(ticker, [attribute], [start_date], [end_date|num_days],
  [interval])
ticker - The ticker symbol for the security to consider.
attribute - [ OPTIONAL - "price" by default ] - The attribute to fetch
  about ticker from Google Finance. This is required if a date is
  specified.
...
start_date - [ OPTIONAL ] - The start date when fetching historical
  data.

*

*If start_date is specified but end_date|num_days is not, only the
  single day's data is returned.

  end_date|num_days - [ OPTIONAL ] - The end date when fetching historical data, or the number of days from start_date for which to return data.
interval - [ OPTIONAL ] - The frequency of returned data; either "DAILY" or "WEEKLY".

*

*interval can alternatively be specified as 1 or 7. Other numeric values are disallowed.

Examples:
GOOGLEFINANCE("GOOG", "price", DATE(2014,1,1), DATE(2014,12,31), "DAILY")
GOOGLEFINANCE("GOOG","price",TODAY()-30,TODAY())
GOOGLEFINANCE(A2,A3)

https://support.google.com/docs/answer/3093281?hl=en


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In addition to the desktop background, you can also see my RocketDock and the programs I use on a regular basis.


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Preacher Lawson
About Preacher Lawson
Preacher Lawson was born In Portland, Oregon, but raised most of his adolescence in Memphis, TN. He moved 20 times before the age of 10, but if you asked him what city he's from he'd say Orlando, FL. Because that's where he grew as a comedian.
He started writing jokes when he was 16, then decided to perform for the first time a year later on a bet with his mother. Best decision of his life.
In 2015 Preacher won the title of Funniest Comedian In Florida, in 2016 he was crowned the winner of the Seattle International Comedy Competition. He's continued the wave of momentum on into 2017 and he's on quite a roll this year so far - having made his television debut on NBC's "Last Call with Carson Daly" followed by an appearance on Comedy Dynamic's "Coming To The Stage" soon after. He also made a big splash on NBC's "America's Got Talent" which beat the MLB All-Star game in ratings!


The landscaping around your home should have a definitive line between the garden areas and lawn. Not only does this keep unruly grass out of gardens and flowerbeds, but it also creates a beautiful visual accent.
Choices in garden edging are many, ranging from upcycled items such as pallets and wine bottles to traditional stone or rocks. With so many options, one is sure to fit your style. Here are some ideas.
Stone blocks are among the most popular choices and are readily available at home and garden centers. They come in a trapezoidal shape, and you can lay them in a straight line (by alternating the shapes) or use them to form curves and undulations in the landscape. They require little to no prep work; you just lay the edging stones at the border of the garden area, butting them up to the grass. A single row works well, but you can build the stones higher by stacking them and staggering the joints.
Cinder blocks on their sides form a unique border for your gardens — and add extra planting space. Fill the holes in with soil to create a few more spots to tuck annuals or herbs. Painting the cinder blocks brings a pop of color to the garden.
You can create an eclectic garden border using some scrap wood pieces and fun paint colors. Collect wood scraps in different thicknesses and lengths, cutting them down to shorter pieces if necessary. Paint the pieces with a quick coat or two of paint in various colors (or just skip the paint and go for the natural look). You don't even have to cover them completely if you're going for a shabby-chic look. Installation is very simple: Using a hammer or mallet, pound one end into the ground where you want your border to be, placing the wood next to the previous piece. Vary the colors, sizes and thicknesses to create a unique look.
Transform fallen timber into garden borders easily with the aid of a saw and some extra manpower to move them into place. Cut them to size and lay them on their sides to frame out rectangular beds for a rustic design element in your landscape.
Collect (or purchase) rocks in various sizes, and simply lay them out where you want to create definition. Rocks in a mix of sizes and colors create a border of unique beauty.
No more throwing those empty wine bottles away! Remove the labels, clean the bottles well, and stick them upside down into the ground to create a unique border. Vary the colors of the bottles and place them at different heights to add contrast.
Pallets are incredibly popular in crafts and home decor right now, so it's no surprise to see them used in landscape projects. Remove the boards on the bottom side of the pallet, and then cut the pallet in half so the slats go from side to side. This will create two usable pieces. Cut the boards that will go into the ground flush with the top side-to-side piece, but allow them to extend a few inches below the bottom piece to give you something to stick into the ground. Hammer the pieces into the ground, creating your border, and then nail them together to keep the frame from tipping over.


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Yale professor dies after being taken to jail
Samuel See found unresponsive in his cell
Updated: 4:40 PM EST Nov 27, 2013
A Yale University professor accused of fighting police officers who tried to handcuff him after a domestic-dispute complaint was taken to a jail and died the next day, authorities said Wednesday.Samuel See was found unresponsive in his cell at the Union Avenue detention facility on Sunday and later was pronounced dead, New Haven police said. The medical examiner's office said the cause of his death was pending further study. Police and court officials are investigating the death.See, 34, was an assistant professor of English and American studies who was on leave from Yale, the university said.Yale said it was deeply saddened to learn of See's death and encouraged those who need support to reach out to it for counseling."Our condolences go out to his family, faculty colleagues, and students, and his friends at Yale and elsewhere," Yale said in a statement.See was charged on Saturday with violating a protective order, threatening and interfering with police after fighting with officers when they tried to handcuff him, police said. He was treated for a cut above his eye at a hospital, they said.Police could not say what caused the injury.Police said they received a complaint of a domestic dispute shortly after 5 p.m. Saturday. They said officers spoke with Saunder Ganglani, who identified See as his husband and said he went to the home they shared to retrieve his belongings. Ganglani was charged with violating a protective order.A telephone message was left with Ganglani on Wednesday.Police said officers told See there was a second protective order protecting Ganglani from him.See became enraged, yelling that it was his house and that he shouldn't be arrested, police said. See fought with the officers when they tried handcuffing him, police said.As See was led to a police car, he yelled to one of the arresting officers, "I will kill you ... I will destroy you," police said.See was delivered to the detention center at about 9:10 p.m. Saturday by police and was alert and communicating with marshals throughout his detainment until marshals found him unresponsive in his cell at about 6 a.m. Sunday, Judicial Branch spokeswoman Rhonda Stearley-Hebert said. Marshals immediately provided CPR and other lifesaving efforts, until relieved by New Haven Fire and Rescue, she said.The Judicial Branch is conducting a review to make sure policies and procedures were followed, Stearley-Hebert said.
NEW HAVEN, Conn. —
A Yale University professor accused of fighting police officers who tried to handcuff him after a domestic-dispute complaint was taken to a jail and died the next day, authorities said Wednesday.
Samuel See was found unresponsive in his cell at the Union Avenue detention facility on Sunday and later was pronounced dead, New Haven police said. The medical examiner's office said the cause of his death was pending further study. Police and court officials are investigating the death.
See, 34, was an assistant professor of English and American studies who was on leave from Yale, the university said.
Yale said it was deeply saddened to learn of See's death and encouraged those who need support to reach out to it for counseling.
"Our condolences go out to his family, faculty colleagues, and students, and his friends at Yale and elsewhere," Yale said in a statement.
See was charged on Saturday with violating a protective order, threatening and interfering with police after fighting with officers when they tried to handcuff him, police said. He was treated for a cut above his eye at a hospital, they said.
Police could not say what caused the injury.
Police said they received a complaint of a domestic dispute shortly after 5 p.m. Saturday. They said officers spoke with Saunder Ganglani, who identified See as his husband and said he went to the home they shared to retrieve his belongings. Ganglani was charged with violating a protective order.
A telephone message was left with Ganglani on Wednesday.
Police said officers told See there was a second protective order protecting Ganglani from him.
See became enraged, yelling that it was his house and that he shouldn't be arrested, police said. See fought with the officers when they tried handcuffing him, police said.
As See was led to a police car, he yelled to one of the arresting officers, "I will kill you ... I will destroy you," police said.
See was delivered to the detention center at about 9:10 p.m. Saturday by police and was alert and communicating with marshals throughout his detainment until marshals found him unresponsive in his cell at about 6 a.m. Sunday, Judicial Branch spokeswoman Rhonda Stearley-Hebert said. Marshals immediately provided CPR and other lifesaving efforts, until relieved by New Haven Fire and Rescue, she said.
The Judicial Branch is conducting a review to make sure policies and procedures were followed, Stearley-Hebert said.


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Matthew Doherty (born June 22, 1978, in Harvey, Illinois) is an American actor. He is known for his role of Lester Averman in The Mighty Ducks trilogy.

Early life and education
Doherty is a graduate of Thornwood High School, a southern suburban high school in the Chicago area. While at Thornwood, he played trumpet in the school's band. As part of Matthew's tutoring while on the set of The Mighty Ducks, he took trumpet lessons from Los Angeles studio musicians.

He graduated with a theatre degree from Northwestern University in 1999, where he was a member of the Phi Kappa Sigma fraternity.

Career
He is best known for playing the roles of Lester Averman in The Mighty Ducks trilogy (although in D1 he is referred to as Dave Averman) and William "Heed" MacKenzie in So I Married An Axe Murderer.

Doherty had a role on the TV series Boston Public, in which he shared the screen with Northwestern alum Jeri Ryan. He did a commercial in which he parodied the sound-effect featured on The Six Million Dollar Man. He is then corrected by Lee Majors, who played the title character.
Doherty is also set to return to the screen, alongside The Mighty Ducks co-star Emilio Estevez once again as Lester Averman, in the Disney+ serial reboot of the movies, The Mighty Ducks: Game Changers.

Filmography

Film

Television

References

External links

American male television actors
American male film actors
American male child actors
Male actors from Illinois
People from Harvey, Illinois
Northwestern University School of Communication alumni
Living people
1978 births

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Yesterday I had my car into the dealer for a service. In walks an older gentleman and we spark up a conversation. Mind you, I'm also getting on in years so I usually just start talking out the side of my neck and hope for the best. He was nearly 90. He was a dyed in the wool, bonafide, card carrying member of Tom Brokaw's Greatest Generation. You'll know why if you read on.