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Donald Trump found out the hard way how illusory his powers as POTUS really were, conditioned against the inertia, malice, and bad faith resistance of the bureaucratic establishment, a.k.a. the Swamp. He also knows that the Swamp just worked the system it created to elect itself president as (it likes to think) a final act of revenge against the orange interloper who threatened to drain it and, alas, failed to. All hail President Swamp!
Unless that doesn't pan out, and there's a fair chance it won't, since a 2020 election fraud case will eventually land in the Supreme Court where at least five justices might not be so inclined to let what remains of the Republic roll into a Woke sludge of lawlessness. Do you suppose Clarence Thomas & Co haven't been paying attention the past four years to the swampish doings in the other branches of government? And that they are, just perhaps, good and goddam sick of it? Everything from RussiaGate and the manipulation of the FISA court through the attempted character assassination of Justice Kavanaugh, to the Eric Ciaramella "whistleblower" impeachment caper starring Rep. Adam Schiff, plus all the side dishes of Antifa / BLM street anarchy, Covid-19 lockdown tyranny, French Laundry hypocrisy, and the gaslighting of America by the news-and-social media, with a transsexual reading hour cherry-on-top?
I hope the justices are pissed off a little bit at the hijacking of this country by a party that laughs at the law the way, for one example, DC District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan blew raspberries at the Department of Justice and the DC Circuit Court of Appeals when they both told him to drop the Flynn case. The deadline for adjudicating the janky election is soon upon us, and upon the SCOTUS justices, so the country will know shortly whether it has become the Honduras of the north.
In a just universe, the SCOTUS would invalidate the election results in several states and send the matter into the House of Representatives as the constitution stipulates. Heads would explode from sea to shining sea as heroes of the Resistance — Brennan, Comey, Weissmann, Strzok, and many more — realize they will not be getting their get-out-of-jail-free cards after all. Hunter B would retreat to the Chateau Marmont with his crack pipe for one last lost weekend. Nancy Pelosi would melt into a puddle of rage, prednisone, and hairspray in the capitol rotunda. And for Ol' White Joe Biden it would be just another day of fog and stillness.
And then, of course, the punishments will begin, or, at least, be attempted. By which I mean the Democrats would let loose their street mobs to burn down, loot, and destroy whatever is still left to ruin in select Democratic-run cities. That will polish the party's image fer sure (not). And this time, the national guard may do a bit more than just stand by.
But then, suppose the election is not overturned and Joe Biden glides into the Oval Office on those marvelously greased skids set up for him, propelled by a mighty tail-wind of Woke hopes and dreams for a golden era of work-optional free stuff and renewed overseas nation-building. Be careful what you wish for, DNC. Unlike Mr. Trump in 2016, Joe Biden will not even enjoy the perception that he was somehow legitimately elected, if only by a fluke. In fact, the Swamp gang's credibility will erode daily because independent, entrepreneurial investigators will be out in the swing state thickets figuring out exactly how the election was managed, and how all those Dominion voting machines were gamed, and how exactly this shady company, with origins and operations all around the world, won state contracts with money changing hands. A day will not pass when Joe B is off-the-hook for all that, and meanwhile he will not evade being revealed as the empty shell of what he was before the axons in his brain-pan demyelinated — a third-rate grifting pol available to all comers with an open checkbook.
Gonna be an exciting few weeks ahead. Mr. Trump is not going to concede until he plays the hand that the law allows him to play. He'll indulge his adversaries in the playacting of a transition. I confess, it's already entertaining to see the laughable cast-of-characters that Mr. Biden's managers have picked to run the various federal agencies: slithering millipedes, reptiles, and poisonous invertebrates from the rankest dense-emergent backwaters of the Swamp: John Kerry (the haircut-in-search-of-a-brain), RussiaGate shill Jake Sullivan, John Brennan disciple Avril Haines, open border activist Alejandro Mayorkas, and K-Street catamite Ron Klain to run the show. I hope they enjoy their rehearsals for a pageant that may never happen. And, if things don't work out as you expect, don't pee on the rugs on your way out.
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erik November 27, 2020 at 10:04 am #
"K street catamite" made me spray my coffee on the monitor. Love it.
DrTomSchmidt November 27, 2020 at 1:13 pm #
Yeah, that stood out to me,too. You can criticize old white guy Biden, and the Swamp. The catamite lobby will come after you, however. Beware, JHK.
FreddieMars November 27, 2020 at 1:32 pm #
Yes. JHK, what is the basis of that smear?
zenfugue November 27, 2020 at 4:52 pm #
Agreed, elaboration in order.
Sean Coleman November 27, 2020 at 6:24 pm #
Agreeing with yourself?
Kim November 27, 2020 at 10:14 pm #
Is catamite a smear? Perhaps in your bigotted world.
The media tells me on a regular basis that it is in fact a qualification!
See President-in-waiting Buttigeig,
Just think how far he might have gone if he had married a dog or a cat or a potplant!
hmuller November 29, 2020 at 6:56 pm #
Buttigieg's Harry Potter obsessed partner, Chasten, is not quite ready for prime time.
hardykiwi November 27, 2020 at 2:21 pm #
Wouldn't it be nice to have a form of government where a two party system wasn't absolutely inescapable? Dare I say, a Parliamentary system? Elections are done and over with in less than 6 weeks, a vote of no confidence is all that's necessary to rid the country of a crackpot prime minister, and what's not to like about watching mp's harangue each other during question period? I don't think Trump or Biden would last an hour.
Murca, yews shoulda just gone dun 'n paid yer Tea Tax!!!!
In New Zealand, Australia, Canada, Britain, all of them parliamenray systems, thers is
1. No freedom of speech
2. No freedom of association
3. No freedom of assembly
4. No freedom of movement
5. No safety or security from random search and seizure
6. No freedom from common assault by agents of the state
7. No freedom of religion
8. Severely limited property rights
Pls tell me more about the wonders of parliamentary systems of government.
Iananna November 28, 2020 at 12:22 am #
No point trying to tell you anything if that list is an indication of your cerebral constipation.
Kim November 28, 2020 at 3:10 am #
Notice that you don't actually query any of my points. You don't ask "What do you mean?"
You just lash out in anger. That is your hind brain reacting according to its programming.
Common, but sad.
Clare November 28, 2020 at 4:25 am #
I live in New Zealand and you couldn't be more wrong. I attended my nephews wedding today in a Catholic church. Signed in. No masks. Lots of hugs. Whoever told you such a preposterous litany of lies is simply ? a liar.
Yohannon November 28, 2020 at 11:29 am #
A gay wedding no doubt.
@ Clare
And you recently had all of those rights taken away from you didn't you?
And if they wish to re-impose or maintain any of the restrictions they can do it at any time, no?
Can you freely travel and enter and exit NZ?
Does NZ have "hate speech" laws?
Can government appointees enter your home at any time and seize or deny you use of your property?
Are you permitted currently to possess or distribute the writings of the fellow to whom the mosque shooting is attributed?
Can they make you wear items of clothing, or produce and justify shopping purchases?
Can the law require you to be innoculated by force? It can in Australia.
In Canada, the new pandemic laws allow the govt to seize your house and business.
Can you publicly assemble and protest without permission?
No, you do not have any of the rights I listed above.
The scene you describe with your church is not that of you exercising RIGHTS.
In that scene, you were merely exercising PERMISSIONS that can be withdrawn from you on a moment's notice – and you would have no recourse – as recently has been proven.
Again, you have no rights in NZ.
Good point about rights being inalienable. But our winner take all system is deeply flawed as well. And the Founders were against parties (which they called factions) and never heard of the "two party system". Any reason why the Bill of Rights couldn't be or couldn't have been affixed to a Parliamentary system?
MaryV November 29, 2020 at 12:59 pm #
The people of New Zealand have no freedom of movement. They are as restricted in their movement across borders as someone behind the Berlin Wall in the 1960s.
https://covid19.govt.nz/travel-and-the-border/travel-to-new-zealand/
https://www.immigration.govt.nz/about-us/covid-19
Let me be very clear about this:
NEW ZEALANDERS HAVE NO CIVIL RIGHTS!
cowboy14 November 28, 2020 at 10:39 pm #
@ Kim
It is amazing how New Zealand has suddenly become a target for the shit heads of conservatism just because we have a leader most of the country vaguely likes and respects and we succeeded in defeating the virus where the U.S./Trump failed. There is such a thing as an implicit social contract in the cultural fabric of a nation which is the real protection of civil liberties, and civil discourse. The rights you listed which are (all?) explicitly enumerated in the U.S. constitution I'm sure you would agree are at times not respected by the state despite that formal status. New Zealand does not in fact have a written constitution at all and therefore the basis of your argument seems to be a bit of a non-sequitur if what you are saying is NZ needs to have all those rights explicitly listed in a constitution just like the U.S. because that would "fix" everything. What New Zealand does have is a relatively functional rule of law and culture of questioning power and holding the government of the day to account for its actions. But please correct me if I'm wrong and you have some magical prescription for "fixing" New Zealand. I for one would take the cultural, legal and political status quo in New Zealand at the moment over that of the U.S. any day of the week. And something about your tone, its just wrong, mate. So in my most sincere and polite internet voice, kindly fuck off troglodyte.
Titan28 November 29, 2020 at 8:10 am #
Wouldn't disagree with you on these particulars, but, additionally, New Zealand is an island with a population of 5 million. Submit that has a salubrious effect when developing and implementing strategies to fight the virus. The U.S. has a population of 430,000,000.
I rather liked the Big Lebowksi reference.
Hope that Jeff Bridges is doing OK after that BigC report a month back.
shotho November 27, 2020 at 10:08 am #
Biden will enter the White House and Trump will begin his daily attacks. Nothing will change, except the roles will be reversed. It's simply another iteration of our continuing national decline, which will, probably accelerate further under Uncle Joe. The truly interesting part will be when the collapsing financial system becomes apparent and then, as Mr. K says, the Democrats will wish they had not gotten what they asked for.
MaryV November 29, 2020 at 1:00 pm #
Definite possibility.
joejoepelligrino November 27, 2020 at 10:08 am #
Biden's signature speech, the infamous "Corn Pop" Lifeguard Reminiscences, isn't quite the same caliber as the Gettysburg Address. But it does have a certain je ne sais quoi. And I quote, "By the way…I got hairy legs that turn blonde in the sun. And the kids used to come up to me, and rub my legs down, and watch the hairs come back up again, like roaches. So I learned about roaches. And I learned about kids jumping on my lap. And I loved kids jumping on my lap."
That's right up there with Ferdinand I of Austria, who was so inbred that he would literally do things like shout, "I want noodles!" when questions regarding the kingdom were posed to him, and who masturbated in front of his subjects in court (he'd fit right in with Jeffrey Toobin or Harvey, or Louis, or Les Moonves, or Charlie Rose, or, you get the idea).
Beryl of Oyl November 27, 2020 at 10:13 am #
Les kind of made a clean getaway, didn't he?
I know industry people who say the #MeToo movement was about younger execs wanting to clean out the old driftwood at the top. Sexual misconduct had always gone on, but under the guise of feminism they gave themselves a seemingly noble pretext. Women used to groom victims for these men (just like Ghislaine Maxwell with Jeffrey Epstein). Women also did their parts in making the accusations (after using their sexuality to compensate for a lack of talent).
bluekayak November 27, 2020 at 10:23 am #
Ah, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, polyglot amalgam of peoples that enjoyed a 250 year decline before joining the dustbin of history following the great European suicide of 1914-18. Probably not an inaccurate analogue to the current American empire, the intrigues of the D.C. swamp probably just as irrelevant to small town "fucked-over" country today as the scheming of Viennese courtiers was to Carpathian goatherds…
NickelthroweR November 27, 2020 at 11:18 am #
I left SoCal this year for flyover country and I did so because you can not break what is already broken. Kamala Harris and an army of flying monkeys couldn't wreck this place any worse than it already is. S. California and NYC have a long way to fall yet.
There's a lot of ruin in a nation.
Can't stop laughing
benr November 27, 2020 at 10:09 am #
HEY batter batter Swing.
!CRACK!
Home run.
No hunter not that kind of crack.
Nice to have somewhere to for a factual yet entertaining summary of what we all just saw.
I wish more of us would understand what we are seeing.
To "go", that should read.
elysianfield November 27, 2020 at 11:21 am #
Beryl,
And yet, our peace of mind dictates that we should not.
its me again November 27, 2020 at 12:19 pm #
What you read was the ramblings and word salad of a burned out boomer. Even Trump's attorneys aren't alleging fraud, yet the collective consensus of the "get off my yard" crowd drinks up this blog as if drama queen Jim has a grasp on reality. Trump lost, big time. Deal with it.
Night Owl November 27, 2020 at 2:54 pm #
Indeed, Trump's attorneys are not alleging fraud; they are alleging massive fraud.
Wizard of the Saddle November 27, 2020 at 6:20 pm #
I honestly cannot wait for January 20, 2021. At 12:00 Noon Chief Justice Roberts will give the Oath of Office to Chauncey Gardner…..oh…..I meant Joe Biden. Oh well, no harm done. No real difference. Both are essentially potted plants. Then, at 12:01 PM former President Trump will go FULL GROVER CLEVELAND and announce that he is a candidate for POTUS in 2024.
Heads will explode up and down the entire lengths of the East and West coasts.
Contrary to popular belief, Trump is going nowhere. Trump rallies will continue. A Trump News Network will be launched on cable or via live-streaming internet. Trump will continue to be the kingmaker within the GOP. Trump supporters will continue to fly Trump flags from cars, boats, planes, flying saucers, you name it.
The 24-hour news cycle will continue to revolve around Donald Trump 24/7/365, much to the consternation of millions of pink haired, transgendered, intersectional, Neptunian unicorns of color who populate the modern Democrat Party. TDS will continue as the nation's leading mental disorder.
I'm gonna fill-up my survival bunker with crates of microwave popcorn. The next four years are going to be a HOOT!
Noharm Foul November 28, 2020 at 7:04 am #
"What you read was the ramblings and word salad of a burned out boomer." I guess as I push 3 score I too am of the demographic of a burned out boomer. This may also account for us having recieved the last remnants of a challenging public educations with collectivism theory only thrown in here and there.
Speaking of property I can kinda own the sky no matter what the indigenous say. If I enjoy a deep blue sky on a warm winded summer day than I own that damn sky. Word Salad…yum, yum.
Property. In my pot smokin' ute, the german widowed mother of a childhood friend would yell at us when we wold sneak up on her lawn at dusk, pleading and beckon below any of her poorly supervised sons bedroom windows to come out and smoke some wacky weed with us.
When caught, several of us would run to stone wall property line as she yelled at us in broken english. In chorus we would repeat and yell back " get uff my pippety poppety."
Thanks for bringing me back to the days of my stoner adolescence when education wasn't propaganda and people really worked for and owned their own pippety property.
of any of her several poorly supervised sons to come down and smoke the cannabis with us.
rube-i-con November 28, 2020 at 12:56 pm #
explain why 6 states stopped counting late at night. the common lib refrain is that people need to sleep lol
Mike Roberts November 28, 2020 at 4:48 pm #
Which states and how many of those have Republican governors?
Uncle Bob November 29, 2020 at 10:27 am #
AZ, NV, MI, PA, WI, GA. AZ and GA have Republican governors, the rest have dictatorial Democrats. Governors didn't order the suspension of vote counts on account of "sleep" (aka truckloads of falsified ballots) — that probably came from the Biden campaign, the DNC, the state Democrat Parties, and/or the plutocrats, such as Steyer, Soros, Gates, etc.
Night Owl November 30, 2020 at 2:34 am #
Ask them about the cardboard next.
Cardboard.
Bytes November 28, 2020 at 1:14 pm #
Do you believe that Trump and his 2016 campaign were illegally surveilled and/or prosecuted by the FBI and the Dems? Or are you too partisan to even see that? Is everything Trump and some of his followers are alleging not true.
Ah, the token self-deluded Truman Show occupant has stopped by to talk down to people that are not as smart as it. Inevitable as the sun rising and setting every day.
Ancianoloco November 30, 2020 at 1:28 am #
The joke is, you don't even know you are describing yourself.
I'm amazed by some of the interpretations of the Thanksgiving Eve court decision.
This was a narrow rebuke to the idea that you could treat gatherings in church for religious purposes differently than gathering in Walmart.
Andrew Cuomo's zany color coded alert system is something that was thrown in a drawer after the Bush Administration. It seems everyone has forgotten those days, and oh how we laughed at the terror alerts.
Masks figured in that scam too.
I thought Justice Gorsuch's remarks expressed his frustration with Andrew Cuomo's abject stupidity, and it is disconcerting that this wasn't a unanimous decision.
Democrat Justices support Democrat ideas, without fail. Justice Roberts does whatever best benefits Justice Roberts. "Conservative" Justices generally try to determine whether laws violate or are supported by the Constitution, which — it cannot be stressed enough — is their only job.
Roberts is compromised – he was a Lolita Express traveler, so make of that what you will.
malthuss November 27, 2020 at 10:21 am #
Will DT stay put or will Biden Harris take over?
A lot depends on how far gone our justice system is.
malthuss November 27, 2020 at 1:37 pm #
I finally got your name. Barrel o Oil.
How long have you been posting here?
More science came and went. Did anyone notice? We are told to follow the science, but not just any science, it has to be the science that Dr. Fauci and his supporters are pushing today.
Kind of like the weather report.
JohnAZ November 27, 2020 at 11:24 am #
Aha! You have just alliterated the great flaw of Democrat government control.
Why do Wokesters think that the government knows it all and should run the show?
The government is a collection of failures, of people who cannot do anything else except push paper and people around. People who have never built anything, paid a payroll, or made a legitimate decision of any consequence. People who are so ignorant of issues they have to depend on "experts" or worse, lobbyists to tell them how to vote.
Fauci stands out, he actually has made a stand for mitigation. Of course, the PTB of the Deep State, ever desiring more power, jump all over his statements and attempt make everything legally mandatory.
Just read Yohannon and myself arguing about masks. I feel they are necessary for mutual droplet protection to reduce risk, he does not. Neither of us believe, however, that the federal government has the right, or even the states have the right to litigate someone for not wearing a mask or hugging someone else. The job of the scientists and experts is to advise not condemn.
BTW, as we have seen, which experts are we supposed to follow? If all the experts would be put on a straight line, they would all point in different directions.
Individual freedom and responsibility are the credo of this country, at least for now. Yes, liberty for all, but as the great philosophers said, with liberty comes responsibility. One person is totally free to do what he desires, when two people are present, compromise and responsibility to each other is required.
Masks should be voluntary, period. But each of us should be looking out for our fellows and WANT to protect them. If self protection is helped, so much the better.
But the last thing is for some yahoo in NY state trying to put people under indictment for not wearing a mask, or a little female Hitler in Oregon trying to get neighbors to rat on each other.
hmuller November 27, 2020 at 12:05 pm #
The NY Governor imposed a limit on Thanksgiving gatherings to 10 people. The Oregon Governor outdid him with a 6 person limit while urging neighbors to call the police if they see any violations.
A German phrase comes to mind, "Frech wie Dreck" – "Insolent as shit". Who gave these hack politicians power over our homes and private lives?
"Conspiracy theorists" claim the technology already exists in smart technology (phones, power meters, Hi-def TV's, et al) to monitor what happens in a household, how many people are there, what are they saying. Nosy neighbors aren't necessary anymore. But the East German Stassi found totalitarianism is so much more fun if you give people an opportunity to participate..
Yohannon November 27, 2020 at 12:40 pm #
So are you scared of the vaccine yet? The cure might be worse than the disease – as the social measures have been.
Ricechex November 27, 2020 at 6:23 pm #
I concur JohnAZ. The propaganda, bullying, shaming, and intimidation around this mask issue is over the top.
Sign in San Diego:
"to accommodate ANTI-MASKERS we have provided this space away from everyone else where you can stare at your reflection since apparently you're the only person you care about."
Hmmm. Pretty typical labeling by the Deep State. If you do not agree with the narrative you will be punished– "ANTI", "phobic" or "racist."
I see it on the sidewalks written in chalk "Mask Up" "Mask 4 Respect"
Thus, I am not inclined to wear my mask voluntarily on any such occasion, except when I have to go somewhere that requires it or no entrance, such as Costco.
benr November 28, 2020 at 9:22 am #
Indeed mask pops off when not required and I will not mask up no matter what out doors.
Ron Anselmo November 28, 2020 at 12:36 am #
If Democrats can pretend that Bruce Jenner is a woman, and they can pretend that Kamala Harris is black, they can surely pretend that I'm wearing a mask, right?
bluedog November 28, 2020 at 3:16 pm #
Oh ! don't worry you aren't going to be left out for its headed your way and will arrive right on time.!!!!
Saw a funny comic bit by two guys, riffing on liberals and their COVID paranoia, among other things, and one lovingly referred to government as a comforting baby monitor, which means mommy and daddy will always be there to protect you.
Funny how we were told not to follow the science after 911. We witnessed time travel when WTC7 was pronounced collapsed while still standing. We witnessed aircraft do some amazing physics like fly at over 500mph at sea level without the wings tearing off. We learned that collision, explosion and fire can not harm a Saudi passport. You can't both subscribe to the idea of "science" and the official explanation of what happened that day.
bluekayak November 27, 2020 at 1:26 pm #
Yes, Mohammed Atta's indestructible passport— wafting gently to the top of the smoldering pile to be found in plain view; all while 250 lb firemen in full turnout gear are pulverized beyond identification. What a complete load of horseshit that whole operation was.
Ron Anselmo November 28, 2020 at 1:02 am #
Yes, we also learned that jet fuel burns at 1700 degrees Fahrenheit in an oxygen-rich environment, and melted the structural steel columns, causing the Towers to collapse. Except that steel burns at 2500 degrees Fahrenheit. Seems the "science" lines up here, but the story doesn't add up. Go figure.
Anyone with even the slightest engineering background, that doesn't believe elements of the US government involvement was, implicit at best, or complicit at worst, is delusional.
Long story short, 9/11 WTC Towers were all controlled demolitions – problem, reaction, solution style – to be able to put our footprint in MENA to keep our hands on the levers of oil.
Oh, and in typical fashion of killing 3 or 4 birds with one stone, roll out the Patriot Act – in less time than it takes to get a building permit to build a dog house.
This is really wierd world. Official myths propagated for the worst reasons, causing horrific incidental destruction when contrasted to the resulting myth drenched pyschic destruction of the mass mind and the consequential Bush and administrations 1 million or so middle East casualities. It is beyond the pale. It is beyond so sad.
neurodoc November 27, 2020 at 11:26 am #
Just wait until the so called COVID 'vaccine' is mandatory, but ONLY if you want to fly, work, or go into the grocery store. Not a true vaccine; a true vaccine is a live, attenuated, or killed virus that is NOT self replicating, that is injected to elicit an antibody response to a specific set of viral proteins on cell surfaces. The Mrna 'vaccine' is a self replicating viral strand that goes into potentially ALL cells and cell nuclei in order to generate a new DNA code to send messages for intracellular ribosomes to make COV cell surface antigens (possibly on ALL cells). The Mrna strand is wrapped in and augmented with PEG (polyethylene glycol), which makes squalene (formerly used in vaccines until it was shown to elicit genetically latent auto immune disorders) look like a weak augmentor. PEG, and to a lesser extent, squalene, dramatically pumps up the GENERALIZED immune response by ALL antibodies, not just those to the virus or virion. Good luck with that 'distant' family history of Rheumatoid Arthritis, hyperthyroidism, psoriasis, and a plethora of other diseases you think you didn't have and weren't going to get. To make it worse, the Pasteur Institute people have shown that there are AT LEAST 4 COV mutations (with different viral protein spikes) in the US and Europe; the Hong Kong Med U group has found 30+ mutations. One so called 'vaccine?' No chance. Many will be required, perhaps annually like the flu shot (which was only 10% effective in the past two seasons).
And by the way, I disagree with the so called 'anti-vaxer' movement, and I support use of all the real vaccines such as MMR, HepB, Pneumo, etc. They are real vaccines.
Wardoc, 30 yrs experience as an Academic MD Physician.
feralandroid November 27, 2020 at 11:43 am #
Sounds like the beginning of a b-rated zombie movie.
neurodoc November 27, 2020 at 12:13 pm #
Zombies hopefully not likely, just a hell of a lot of new chronic disease cases to plague humanity and destroy lives and make tons of money for big pharma. But, anything's possible.
SideNote: Multiple Physicians are demanding that CDC inform Americans of the likely widespread side effects of the 'warp speed' experimental COV 'vaccine' that skipped the typical safety trials by around 2 YEARS!!!.
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/doctors-urge-the-cdc-to-make-the-public-aware-of-painful-side-effects-of-experimental-covid-19-vaccines/
beantownbill. November 27, 2020 at 1:14 pm #
I'm wondering about pregnancies. Will or could the expectant mothers' immune system then recognize the embryo as an invader organism? Talk about population reduction.
neurodoc November 27, 2020 at 2:24 pm #
Excellent point. Most physicians, esp OBGyns that I am familiar with now and in the past cautioned pregnant women against NON EXPERIMENTAL vaccines that were, IMO, overall safe (e.g. hepb). Being a medicine/neuro doctor, and my wife not having babies for 25 years, I did NOT think of the effect on rapidly developing morulas and latter fetuses. NOT GOOD!!! Given an effective in all cell lines, maybe the zombie comment above was not so far out. Who knows? Caution is needed here NOT warp speed.
Much like giving military personnel Anthrax and smallpox vaccine together.
Gee what could go wrong?
How about pancreas melting to nothingness?
Tate November 27, 2020 at 12:11 pm #
You seem to be knowledgeable, at least to me. I hope there is general non-compliance. Will it break along the culture war front? If it does, that would be a good thing.
Interesting point. Unfortunately, there are many groups, religious and athletic/school/college groups, for e.g., clamoring for the 'vaccine,' thinking they won't have to wear masks and socially distance. Fear is the strongest motivator of (irrational) human behavior. They'll all likely line up for the shot(s).
Anyone Remember that even Fouci said that the 'vaccine' won't preclude the use of masks and social distancing in 2021. That should tell everyone, with a triple digit IQ, something important and rather clear.
Finally, Regarding adverse effect, Why do you think that Big Pharma demanded and GOT complete immunity and 'indemnity' for any adverse effects of 'vaccines?' That is fact!
Tate November 27, 2020 at 1:39 pm #
It won't be the first time there has been money to be made from other people's misery. That's not a knock at "capitalism" it's just caveat emptor. But who knows, maybe some will benefit from having their DNA altered forever.
Justin November 28, 2020 at 10:34 am #
I don't remember that comment from Fauci, but it definitely does say to me that if the 'vaccine' won't preclude masks and social distancing, then it is useless.
Yes, the vaccine manufacturers threatened to stop making any new vaccines since they were so risky, and their legal liability was too great. Not to mention how ineffective most of them are.
So they lobbied congress, and essentially paid the FDA to remove any of their legal liability, as a condition to continue producing them. That changed vaccines from being financial liabilities into cash cows for them.
That is another huge red flag too.
abbybwood November 27, 2020 at 6:16 pm #
So, based on the information you have shared, it would make more sense to wait at least a year or two after the FDA declares all the Covid-19 vaccines "safe" in order to see any dangerous side effects in the trial participants?
Or longer?? Five years maybe?
I read where the trials didn't jab anyone over 55.
Since it appears those 70 and up are at the highest risk of "catching" Covid-19, I have to wonder why the older folks were not asked to participate?
Yes, knowing that the so called 'testing' for these vaccines was inadequate and rushed, the only sensible thing for anyone to do is to let the uninformed be the real guinea pigs, and wait to see how it turns out for them. At least 1 year, but many more if possible.
The trials failed on multiple levels, and any company or product that has no legal liability cannot be trusted.
Lastly, following their money trails reveals so many astounding conflicts of interest, that it is criminal.
My guess on why older folks were not asked to participate, is because they thought that would expose how ineffective the vaccine is on anyone over 55. I doubt they were concerned about their health and safety, since they are immune from liability.
GreenAlba November 30, 2020 at 8:55 am #
The Oxford vaccine has been tested on over 55s. Over 70s in fact. Obviously you start with younger, healthier volunteers in the early stages.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32481-8/fulltext
And it seems to be well tolerated by the older volunteers.
https://www.gmjournal.co.uk/oxford-covid-19-vaccine-results-show-it-is-well-tolerated-in-older-people
Obviously, as I have said elsewhere, you need much longer to be definitive about any new vaccine, but the information so far is that older people who have volunteered have been fine with it.
But you are right that not all vaccines have been tested on older people. Or perhaps 'yet'. Less than 50%, apparently.
There are reasons for not starting with older people.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/older-adults-are-more-at-risk-for-covid-19-so-why-dont-vaccine-trials-include-them#Why-exclude-older-adults?
Was the Russian Sputnik vaccine tested on older adults? I don't know – but they started vaccinating the general public at the start of November.
roccofire November 27, 2020 at 8:12 pm #
Have you ever seen the videos from the MD called Zdogg on facebook or youtube? He is a frontline MD, excellent discussions on current topics of hospital life.
ThorsHammer November 27, 2020 at 10:25 pm #
bluekayak
"that operation" was key to where we are now. It proved that nearly the entire population of the USA can be sold a bag of horseshit and will gleefully believe they are eating chocolate ice cream. (Just to make sure I'm censored, I should point out that our host is one of the unrepentant Truth Deniers of that event.)
If the American Followers can be convinced that an ex-CIA operative with terminal kidney disease using a cell phone from a cave in Tora Bora could suspend the laws of physics and thus cause skyscrapers to collapse into their own footprints, then why shouldn't the Deciders conclude that they can rob an election in broad daylight with no fear of repercussions?
Jim, your off-repeated belief that the "justice system" will somehow right the wrongs of the massive fraud that is the US electoral circus might be quaint at first, but it is sounding more and more like the ravings of a once-great wordsmith who has contracted the Biden syndrome.
Thanks neurodoc
Excellent and concise description of the difference between a mNRA "vaccine" (AKA antipersonnel bioweapon) and a traditional vaccine.
Yes, my extensive research into vaccines aligns with your above assessment too. Even the so called 'flu' vaccines have annual efficacies that are are rather dismal, ranging from 0-50%.
As you said, they are dealing with a moving target, and so it is little more than a crap shoot.
That 'science' reminds me of the t-agenda 'science' which consists of, if you believe something strongly enough, it will happen. Decades of positive thinking (magical thinking) indoctrination has led up to this shining moment where "I believe in science" is not something to be pointed and laughed at.
Science as belief system, not science as proven hypotheses and laws.
Back to the dark ages with us! No wait, I think there was less mass hysteria even then.
Vadrosaul November 27, 2020 at 10:28 am #
Too many frightened turtles in the USA getting regular doses of agency-approved neuroses that maintain them as over-educated yet pseudo-intellectual.
One anecdote I recently had was from an acquaintance whose elderly folks and siblings – all located in healthcare deprived Iran – contracted and endured COVID.
I inquired in detail as to how they endured it. All of them survived quite easily, even with heart conditions and a lack of medical support beyond OTC pills and plush pillows. Yet even given that, the acquaintance could not grok that maybe, just maybe, he shouldn't be so hyper paranoid about the virus.
SW November 27, 2020 at 10:50 am #
Dr. Scott Atlas who has been ridiculed and ignored by the media has been saying the draconian measures are unnecessary and the people at the lower end of the economy will be paying the price. I read today that Amazon's business skyrocketed (of course) so they'd be happy if the pandemic never ends.
We got a package delivered by Amazon on Thanksgiving Day.
Amazon is so essential that some poor sap didn't get a holiday.
Making triple time.
Because money is more important than time celebrating with friends and family, in a tradition shared with the entire nation.
I have floated the idea of having Thanksgiving either the Saturday prior or the very next Saturday to my family for years.
Makes travel easier.
Logic doesn't work on them. Their brains have been collectively hijacked by daily doses of fear porn. I am guessing that now, they have become addicted to the adrenalin high, and the comfy working conditions for those who get to perform their jobs on their couch in their jammies.
Trump will play out his hand to the end but Biden will be President — that is, until Kamala puts a strategically placed banana peel on a flight of stairs. The way the Hunter Biden laptop evidence was buried or shouted down is a preview of what will happen with all investigative reporting on election fraud, ballot manipulation or suspicious software. It will be reported — if it's reported at all — as accusations without evidence. Even if the evidence is on a laptop, corroborated by eye witnesses and an actual TV clip with the person bragging about what they did.
At this point I hope Trump pardons Manning, Snowdon, and Assange and everyone else who has tried to tell the truth and been prosecuted.
zekesdad November 27, 2020 at 11:24 am #
The traitor Manning has already been pardonedby Barack Obama.
The traitor? For what, trying to expose how corrupt the Deep State is? He should get an Emmy!
I think he just commuted Manning's sentence, which got him out of jail.
Maybe? Trump has the advantage in the House.
Our Overlords warned us not to travel or gather for Thanksgiving, and left for the airports right after, to get together with their own friends and family.
https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1332070436155367424?s=20
Didn't mean to post with all the replies.
Along with millions of other folks. If a surge happens, blame everyone and no one!
This is what I keep asking the pro-self-muzzlers and the pro-lockdowners. Why is it, you think, that the people making these draconian rules 'to keep you safe' don't follow them? I mean, at all? Example after example (I've been keeping a list). They don't seem to want to go there. One actually said, "I won't answer that". The question seems to break their brains.
getsome November 27, 2020 at 10:39 am #
Have I missed HappyKnees making any comments? Nothing from the socialist trio poco-Bernie-aoc. Deep Slime can install the cognitively impaired puppet bidet, eh Biden, but Trump has pulled the curtain away from the MIC MO for various scams, never to become opaque to the same extent. Trump has changed enough policies to open the eyes of average intelligent person to the destructive policies of old, and an attempt at a replay should not go unpunished. As the destructive power of shutting down businesses (unless you have inside vig), manifests vengefully, the already weakened social contract will be voluntarily voided by ever increasing numbers of citizens. Good luck with pushing frivolous policies of the "woke". Reality sucks, as we used to say upon receiving incoming.
JHK, Continue to March Sir! You are quite capable on expounding, with awesome insight, beyond the Long Emergency solamente.
Trump's legacy, if he is deposed, will be to expose the rot in the Deep State, to start draining the life blood of the swamp, a campaign promise that will enshrine him in American history. Keep it up!
SoftStarLight November 27, 2020 at 1:36 pm #
I agree. I still feel like Trump is going to win. The fraud was so massive that it required lots of coordination. And there is plenty of evidence of the coordination, suppression, unconstitutional censorship, and foreign interference. But even still. Trump pulled the curtain back and showed anyone willing to pay attention what he meant when he said the system is rigged. The system is hopelessly compromised lest he is able to remain in office per his actual electoral victory and fully clean house once and for all. Short of that, we simply can no longer accept the system the way it is now.
par4 November 27, 2020 at 10:43 am #
Thanks, Jim. You keep hitting them out of the park.
Htruth November 27, 2020 at 10:44 am #
Head Of iran's Nuclear Weapons Project Assassinated: https://americanyellowvest.wpcomstaging.com/2020/11/27/head-of-irans-nuclear-weapons-project-assassinated/
"Head Of iran's Nuclear Weapons Project Assassinated"
And rumor has it that the Goddamned Baptists were heavily involved.
messianicdruid November 27, 2020 at 11:43 am #
How were the seminarians involved?
"His watchmen are blind, all of them know nothing, all of them are mute dogs unable to bark, dreamers lying down, who love to slumber; and the dogs are greedy, they are not satisfied. And they are shepherds who have no understanding; they have all turned to their own way, each one to his unjust gain, to the last one."
Pucker November 27, 2020 at 10:59 am #
Any Black Friday mayhem yet?
Any brawls among obese, foul-mouthed women fighting over a flat screen TV? Remember the big brawl among obese, foul-mouthed women at the Chuckie Cheese?
I guess that the society gets what it deserves?
If I were a security guard at Walmart on Black Friday, I'd have a cattle prod and a can of mace. And maybe a big net and a pitchfork like those Roman gladiators.
Walmart could just quit having those limited quantity, limited time extreme sales of items that class of people could never afford otherwise.
If they'll act that way for some electronic gadgets, what will they do when truly hungry and Wal-Mart puts out a few sacks of rice.
Punch somebody in the face to snatch some cheap headphones from an antagonistic shopper.
nosepail November 27, 2020 at 11:02 am #
Turn back. It's not too late. Come back to reality.
Nosepail, You don't have to wring your hands over me, I'm firmly enough grounded in reality to know when I'm being trolled. — JHK Admin
– The election was conducted fairly. Not easy given that Mr Trump spent 4 years gaslighting about election fraud, and then close to a full year trying to delegitimize mail in voting, not because it is devious but because he (correctly) sensed more democrats would vote by mail.
– The votes were counted fairly according to all legitimate authorities. Drop this insane mythology around Dominion voting machines. Therein lies total madness and nothing but disinformation.
– Saying that Trump "drained the swamp" is beyond absurd. He is EASILY, by a million miles, the most corrupt politician we have ever had. His family name is by now synonymous with corruption. I hope they never teach about Boss Tweed and Teapot Dome in high school history every again. It should be about nothing about Trump when we talk about the golden age of corruption in the future. One need not enumerate the various corruptions since they are so overt and overwhelming in number and scale, one must be totally lost in order not to see this.
– Making fun of Biden's cabinet picks is also absurd. Trump literally put people in charge of cabinet positions and departments with the explicit purpose to destroy the very things their position is supposed. He put in absolute bozos at every level with the sole qualification that they were slavishly subservient to him. Again, this is not subtle and should not require a listing of names.
Jim, please come back to reality. You used to be an intellectual we all respected. Now you have clearly declared yourself on the side of anti-intellectualism and a card carrying member of the right wing fever swamp. You were once a great and smart man, whose opinions on current events were once worth reading. Please pull your head out of whatever disinformation bubble you've been sticking it in for the past couple years and restore your credibility. It is really not too late.
" It is really not too late."
for 'nosepail', that is…
I have no illusions that the Trump family is a beacon of honesty but "his family name is by now synonymous with corruption." Your memory is either very short or very selective, nose pail, and I can name several families that would compete for the top of the list — remember the Bushes? Clintons? and now Bidens? What about Rick Scott down in Florida who plead guilty to Medicare fraud?
RWaterhouse November 27, 2020 at 11:32 am #
Jeepers creepers. Perhaps it's you Nosepail who needs to get back to "Reality"! I've rarely seen such an unknowledgeable and unobjective summary of the election and presidency of the Orange man! TDS stage Terminal….Plenty of evidence of massive massive fraud. As for the Presidents appointments I tend to think he put them there to expose certain things or to keep an enemy close….MAGA
Do not patronize JHK or the rest of us. You have you opinions. State them and go on.
BTW, I will state mine and say that I think you are wrong in every statement you have made. I really want to watch all of you Wokesters crying on Inauguration Day after the level of graft present now is exposed.
I can say what I want Sir…and I was not being patronizing. All's I know is every time I read Trump haters speak they always get thrilled about their great hope to see Trump and Trump's supporters wounded and crying ??? Kinda sick? Kinda like today's Democrat Party! I'm a liberal but I'm not a fool.
I'm sure JohnAZ was talking to Nosepail, not you RWaterhouse.
RWaterhouse November 27, 2020 at 1:52 pm #
Oops! Apologies then!
Do you have any evidence that it was conducted fairly? All the evidence says otherwise.
volodya November 27, 2020 at 11:40 am #
Funny thing how Trump spent decades in the most mobbed-up businesses, real estate and casinos, and yet the Mueller investigation, whose mandate it was to dig up any shit it could find on Trump, came up goose-eggs. How could this happen? Where are the indictments? Yeah, yeah, they got a couple small fry, but what about Trump?
Either Trump is as clean as a hounds tooth, or Trump outwitted the smartest legal and investigative gunslingers the feds could conjure, or Mueller and his gang are the most pathetic buffoons ever deployed on such a target-rich, can't-possibly-miss environment.
Counted fairly? Do you seriously think that? In my own estimation, given the behavior of Trump's opponents in the past four or five years, it would take a monumental effort at willful suspension of disbelief.
You get to call it as you see it. But this ain't no movie where you suspend your mental faculties for the sake of a couple of hours of escapism, this is real life.
I suspect Nosepail is just stirring up the pot. He would have to be a drooling idiot to actually believe the twisted shit he wrote.
https://youtu.be/4omH4moz-EI
Nosepail would call Biden a liar if he received an in person confession.
You are handing your ability to critically think over to "legitimate" authorities. Please stop just believing them and really try to think for yourself. I know its been awhile.
4014HAMPHEDGE November 27, 2020 at 12:02 pm #
A good a place as any to remind all hands the incoming administration folowed and certainly will build on, Joe Stalin's playbook:
Let the mobs wear down the middle class, round up a few of the most dangerous (victims who defend their persons/property}. Arrange by amnesty or bail-out to refresh the ranks of the anarchists…
Open borders guarantee green light to gangs south of the border to open for business in most US metropolitan and 100's of smaller communities with Latino and black populations ripe for extortion, vice and protection rackets. No need for steenkin' poleece..
Of course, the basis for Stalin's abusive habits on the Russian population was- -wait for it- absolute disarmed population in the urban areas. Thugs were allowed knives, however…Just like some Russian gangs now at large in the States, no doubt to be found in the current run of anarchists.
The playbook is GULAG ARCHIPELIGO and the playwright is Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. The hell of it, the actors, many in suits, are at large right now in America, and this time the cast is pulling Joe's strings!
Daddyotis November 27, 2020 at 1:29 pm #
" You used to be an intellectual we all respected."
We? WE?? Who's this "we" you think you're associating with, Sparky? Believe me, there is no "we" with you. You just spent 3 paragraphs refuting Jim's well constructed points and theories with ZERO evidence to back up your claims, whereas JHK is very clear with his reasoning for supporting his theories.
So don't include me with your "We". I'll choose Jim's well thought out ideas over some gaslit troll with NO actual information to back up his ridiculous claims.
Honestly, you give the term "sheep" a bad name. BAAAAAAAAAAA
Perhaps the dem guy is just ignorant and too narcissistic to self reflect or listen to opposition thoughtfully and rationally. The FEW active, not former, democrats I know, are completely delusional, and only listen to propaganda info from msnbc and cnn. One of them whips out its phone and uses facebook to counter others' opinions (very pathetic). It's like trying to talk to a sworn stalinist in the 1980's who only listened to tass and pravda and thought they were truthful. The crazy dem guy has a hard road coming, internal processing wise.
lbs November 27, 2020 at 1:53 pm #
Trump's failure was to fill his administration with the same losers as Biden has picked, in order to placate the establishment that his appointees had the requisite experience.
kendar667 November 27, 2020 at 8:09 pm #
I see your point, however, there are limits to what anyone would be able to do given the depth of the corruption. There are some very dangerous creatures lurking in that swamp, and the deep state has a powerful immune system. Trump has had to walk a very fine line in the first term to expose the MSM and swamp critters as much as he did – playing by the rules just enough to keep the ball moving forward.
Having said that, if he can pull this off he seriously needs to consolidate power and start kicking ass. He has the peeps behind him. Military tribunals if it takes it, or bringing back the HUAC. For starters, the entire MSM/Big Tech cabal needs to be nuked from orbit. The FBI and CIA need to be shut down entirely. Things are that broken.
Yes, it's incredible how far JHK has gone from reality. Again, nothing in this post to persuade the unpersuaded. Indeed, if it wasn't written so well, I would swear that Trump wrote this post as it is full of the sort of rubbish that Trump spouts every day.
Biden's time will be terrible. No doubt. But let's not idealise the Trump years. They were entertaining but there was no coherent theme and no coherent phrases.
Don't rely on the SCOTUS, Jim. Those justices have to base their rulings on the law and on evidence. After so many weeks, no real evidence has emerged but the Trump crowd cling to the belief that somehow sufficient evidence of widespread fraud will emerge and Trump will get another four years. However, be careful what you wish for, Trump's current term ends on Jan 20th. If Biden doesn't become President then, you'll get Nancy Pelosi as the acting President, presumably until a new election can be run. Boy, the stuff of nightmares.
Islander November 29, 2020 at 6:43 pm #
" After so many weeks, no real evidence has emerged "
https://www.unz.com/article/election-bomb-shell-the-us-constitution-goes-to-court-or/
No evidence there and that ruling (which was temporary) was overturned by the PA supreme court. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/28/rep-mike-kelly-lawsuit-dismissed-trumps-court-losses-grow/6453673002/
Don November 27, 2020 at 9:11 pm #
Thank you for your intelligent posting. I think nearly all of us that have a brain and a heart have abandoned Jim Kunstler. I don't know what happened to him, but this isn't the smart, witty, liberal, social critic and writer that I remember.
beantownbill. November 27, 2020 at 11:19 pm #
If you've abandoned him, why are you posting here? Why are you,reading his commontary if you don't believe in it?
Hey Noserpail, go ahead you loser:
1) "enumerate the various corruptions"
2) "list the names"
Go ahead, we'll wait.
rube-i-con November 28, 2020 at 1:08 pm #
what planet are you from
jhk spent years rooting for the madness your side espouses.
he woke up
Urbanhillbilly November 27, 2020 at 11:04 am #
Hoping you are considering writing book on this election Jim.
Then again i feel like becoming a news hermit would be better for my mental health.
My local municipal government is extreme left wing.
The provincial government is extremely left wing.
My Prime Minister is extremely left wing.
If Biden crawls into Oval Office then i am going into news blackout mode. Other than your Monday and Friday posts i am almost there anyway.
Amman November 27, 2020 at 1:48 pm #
Hmmmm… Australia?
Scott Morrison is no socialist! The divisions of Australia are "states" Canada has "provinces".
Kim November 27, 2020 at 9:59 pm #
But he is a globalist.
It is amazing to me that so many have no understanding of this term.
The assailants can't even be properly identified by at least 70% of the population from what I have seen and heard.
Before going to Electronics, be sure to run over to the Sporting Goods Department to grab a baseball bat.
Today is the 50th anniversary of George Harrison's All Things Must Pass album.
Northern Neck November 27, 2020 at 6:23 pm #
Oh man, does that take me back. I ordered a reel-to-reel tape of All Things Must Pass from a firm in Bangkok while in country on Hawk Hill,
RVN. Bangkok people would record any album on a ten inch tape. Mr. Harrison certainly never recieved a penny of what I paid. Fifty years!
Jeremy November 27, 2020 at 11:32 am #
Despite what we've heard in the media re. the recent Pennsylvania Senate hearing, the testimonies given by the various witnesses was beyond shocking.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?478422-1/president-trump-tells-pennsylvania-gop-lawmakers-election-rigged-overturned
Watching this all from abroad, it's clear that the Republic died a while ago.
These three are also worth listening to.
https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/507870-russiagate-hoax-biden-administration/
BackRowHeckler November 27, 2020 at 11:35 am #
From what I'm seeing so far anyway, Biden's staff, cabinet and various 'Czars' will consist of lobbyists, Big Money, Big Time, powerful lobbyists, working for shadowy groups, corporations and organizations whose existence and goals we can hardly fathom.
Brh
How could "Leftists" be so stupid as to elect a Corporate shill like Biden? A pawn of the military industrial complex? Now he distances himself from the few foolish radicals who still infest the Democratic Party at the Federal Level.
How could they be so stupid, Yohannon? Believe me, they are very stupid and it is the way of things now. I have 2 barely adult sons who are full time China Joe koolade drinkers (to my perpetual shame). The one who will actually tolerate discussion on political issues (the other would simply call the mob to my house if he sensed disagreement with "the narrative") is so obtusely and completely ignorant of constitutional protections and what they are for that he looks at me like I'm an alien when I try to explain basic constitutional principles to him.
The struggle continues.
I feel your pain. The same university I graduated from in '73 that produced all kinds of successful, bright and intelligent biz people, writers, doctors, lawyers, and others, brainwashed my daughter into thinking that all non africans are racists, china is a force for world peace, black reparations tax is fair, and the islamic crazies that behead 'non believers' are a minute exception to their peaceful culture, etc ad nauseum (she denies that cultural clitorectomies exist any where in the world!). 3.7 GPA pre med and she can't recite a word of the US Constitution and knows little of actual US history. She and her friends have heard NOTHING about the very serious problems with the recent 'election' and they think biden is pres elect because facebook says so. 3.7GPA!!!!!!! The struggle needs acceleration! Or an accelerant! 🙂
elysianfield November 27, 2020 at 6:35 pm #
Ndoc,
Was there ever a useful, everyday use of "pithing" that they taught us how to do to frogs in Biology 1A in High School? Methinks I will have to find my old ice pick….
You have no one to blame but yourself.
Soul Forensics November 27, 2020 at 3:05 pm #
My understanding from those on the inside of the poltical wars (Bannon, among others) is that Biden was pushed through (with the help of the corrupt Dominion machines in the primaries) because they could sell him to people of Scranton PA as 'one of their own', since he once lived there, albeit for about two years. And East PA was one of the key battlefields of the election.
Either side will be corrupt, the cast of miscreants that Trump paraded as a cabinet was not much better.
The difference is the charter of both. The Resistance, the Dems want dictatorship of the central government to enhance their power, the Populists want people power. That is it! Remember this when you have to choose sides for the civil war.
Last blog, Yohannon had the idea to create the Constitution Party and have Trump be the first leader. No RINOs allowed, destroy what is left of the GOP.
Y deserves an Emmy.
'Remember this when you have to choose sides for the civil war.'
Fair or not, most people have already chosen sides by the red/blue color of the state they are in or, at least, region of that state (e.g. SW Virginia vs. Central/East/North Va or Southern/downstate vs Northern/upstate New York). I think that CW2 will be a red/blue affair, as there is no coming together of the two extant points of view out there (as we can even see on this board, and I assume most of the people on this board at least can and do read and pay attention to multiple divergent views). 🙂
Because of the above expected structure of CW2, which will, in some ways be similar to CW1, it will be brother (fr one region) against brother ( in the other region or state). CW1 was very much like that, at least in the midwest and south. It's just how humans roll and have rolled for at least 30,000 years. We haven't changed as much as we like to think. We still run on fear/greed/tribalism and are ideology manipulated and driven.
Lock and load everybody and get ready.
When the color of your skin is your uniform, your choice is made for you.
Yohannon November 27, 2020 at 4:26 pm #
Create? It already exists. That you don't know that shows the effectiveness of the main stream media, in this case, its power to ignore.
Not sure what you're referring to; I don't watch msm and haven't in years. I get newsletters of many stripes instead. What's your point?
I'm replying to John. When you reply to someone, your reply is indented under theirs. That's why my reply is in line with yours above since we are both replying to John. Compare it with this reply to you and you'll notice the difference.
Ishabaka November 27, 2020 at 12:02 pm #
Don't forget Joe Biden was the ringleader of Clarence Thomas' high-tech lynching. I doubt Justice Thomas has forgotten – or forgiven – that.
Judges must put personal feelings aside and behave in a dignified, objective, and judicial manner. Just look at Judge Emmet Sullivan – poster child for fairness under The New World Order.
messianicdruid November 27, 2020 at 12:05 pm #
"Yohannon had the idea to create the Constitution Party and have Trump be the first leader."
I sat next to Howard Phillips at their convention in the early 90s. They used to called the US Taxpayers Party.
What do you think of them and their platform? Two related but different questions of course.
Jerry1927 November 27, 2020 at 12:28 pm #
This has truly grown tiresome. It makes me think of what it must have been like in the days when people were trying to explain the geocentric theory of the universe. An ever more cumbersome and convoluted system of epicycles, celestial spheres and aether were required to keep the theory afloat until it was finally replaced by a much more reasonable theory that explained astronomical observations and required only a few basic assumptions. And so goes the great election fraud theory. There is an ever expanding group of people who must be "in on it", not a single one of which has broken ranks or had a slip of the tongue, more convoluted reasons why there is a massive amount of evidence that no one has actually seen or revealed either in court or in public, and twisted logic of why a "dream team" of lawyers (minus the ones who dropped out for some reason) has failed to get past first base in upwards of 30 different lawsuits in 30 different courts with 30 different judges. A much more reasonable theory would be that the one and only goal Trump has before it's time to leave is to sow doubt among his supporters and anyone else who will listen, as to the validity of the election and therefore the legitimacy of a Biden presidency. In this theory, rather than failing, he has been wildly successful. For this theory, all that is required is for Trump to want to do this (check), maybe for revenge against the impeachment and Russia investigation, and a very small handful of loyalists and cowering sycophants who are willing to do his bidding (check). The rest of us then fall into one of three categories. The first is people who are willing to believe whatever Trump says and are being played for fools. The second is people who do not believe this nonsense and would rather believe their own senses and what they can actually observe. And the third category is opportunists who, regardless of what they believe, realize they can make money or politically gain by catering to a very large audience of people who are desperately looking for any reason to continue to believe in Trump. This last category includes various senators and representatives, "news" networks such as OANN and Newsmax, which have outfoxed Fox and are surely raking in increased advertising dollars due to dramatically increased viewership, as well as retailers selling Trump and election fraud merchandise, and blogs that are seeing increased traffic and therefore making more money. Really, the only question left to ask yourself is, which category do you fall into?
What about Sydney Powell?
Category 3.
Nope. You're not making any sense.
Jerry1927 November 27, 2020 at 2:54 pm #
Well, if you subscribe to the theory, you can pick any category you want for her. Or you could put her in the small band of loyalists and sycophants which I might have if it did not appear that Trump threw her under the bus. Or maybe there should be a separate category for Qanon believers.
I don't subscribe to the theory. As I said couple of weeks ago, the whole business of sending out mail-in ballots wholesale was designed to enable fraud at all levels, no grand conspiracy needed. It was come-one, come-all. In this, the Dems & never-Trumpers succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. What they didn't count on is succeeding beyond anyone's bizarrest imaginings. Oops! Now all they can do is stonewall.
Sidney Powell says they have check stubs for ballot harvesters.
The fraud appears to have been multi-faceted, not focused just on the machines.
They went all in.
Let me put it this way, when they are putting cardboard in the windows to block poll watchers, you know you have won.
Oregonian November 27, 2020 at 12:52 pm #
You wanted evidence? Here you go:
https://www.hereistheevidence.com/
For what it's worth, I think that the American public has been subject to four years of the greatest psyop ever conducted on the American public. If my extended family is representative of the results, then know that most of them would gleefully stuff a ballot box, lock out poll watchers, re-program a vote count, or any of the other actions that have been documented as part of this election. For them, getting rid of President Trump is a far bigger consideration than the rule of law. I've heard my own sister express a fervent desire to shoot our president.
Oregonian: include my extended family in EXACTLY the mindset you have described.
Sorry to hear about your extended family but no, I don't think they're representative. Also, talk is cheap, so maybe their talk isn't representative of their deeds. If you know that they committed voter fraud, why not report them?
That is a pretty good website.
At least some of the items appear to be party agnostic, so I give them credit for that. For example, there is a link to an article talking about Mitch McConnell blocking votes on election security and pointing out that he received money from lobbyists for none other than Dominion. Yet he seems to be pretty firmly now on the side of massive voter fraud.
There's an awful lot of "sources" that are actually youtube videos or tweets and obviously would not in and of themselves be admissible as evidence. It's unclear how many original sources there are, but not nearly as many as there are entries.
I checked out the dead voters link for PA and after the first few, the birthdate matches are only by year and there's an awful lot of "Smiths", "Jones" and "Millers". Also, the party of the dead voters, if that's what what they were, is not shown. Why assume that voter fraud of this type, to the extent it exists, is solely the territory of Democrats?
I also checked out but don't buy some of the statistical arguments. Trump spent all his time telling his voters to vote in person, whereas democrats were encouraged to vote by mail. Why would it then be a surprise that in a heavily democratic location that the absentee votes are overwhelmingly for Biden? And absentee votes (and for that matter, I think all votes) are generally reported in batches, not one by one. So a batch of absentee votes mostly for Biden should not be a surprise.
The Georgia hand recount, where Dominion machines were used, matched well with the original count, other than the one batch of votes that was "found" in one county. There will now be another machine recount. If the machine recount now matches the hand recount, what does that say about Dominion machines in Georgia?
Finally, there are some states that went for Trump but were pretty close, such as Iowa and North Carolina. Is anyone checking for dead voters, voting anomalies, machine behavior, etc. in those states? Maybe Biden won those states.
Thanks to hmuller for the style tip.
How is a "batch" assembled?
I was using the word "batch" because it appeared in your link:
"149,772 vote batch is 96% for single candidate"
"143,379 vote dump at 3:42am had a 93% leaning towards single candidate"
I do not know how a "batch" or a "dump" is assembled. Maybe the source in your link can answer that question. What I do know is, at least when watching election returns, the counts don't go up one-by-one, they go up in "batches", if you will, probably related to precincts sending their results. I don't think anyone other than election officials has access to individual votes.
Also, in general, I don't think absentee votes were reported together with in-person votes. In particular, in PA, as I'm sure you know, the Republican legislature decided that absentee votes were not to be counted at all until the in-person polls closed, and they obviously take a lot longer to count.
I would be willing to bet that in heavily Republican areas of battleground states and other states, there were plenty of "batches" that were in the 90%+ for Trump. But, of course, no "massive election fraud" people are looking at those areas.
It wasn't "my link". But that's okay. I was just curious if this term "batch" has any objective definition. I hear it bandied about but it would be interesting to know what it actually means.
Sorry about that, I lost track of who was at the top of the thread.
Spot on. The smarter ones know but don't care. By any means necessary. Trump is Hitler in their eyes. And his followers are Nazis who deserve what they get. Thanks Academia! Thanks Mainstream Media! Thanks Evil Elite who own and/or fund these things!
BackRowHeckler November 27, 2020 at 12:58 pm #
Good luck with Bedpan Biden, a truly inspirational leader of men.
Jeremy November 27, 2020 at 4:48 pm #
"Bedpan Biden" Love it!
Although I prefer "Pee Pads & Knee Pads"!
(remember Willie Brown?)
Pedo Joe and the Ho
Brought to you by the Obama the Assassin management team
(Or would you prefer an alternative reality where words have no factual content?)
Jo(k)e Biden & "Heels Up" Harris
Jerry, on a stylistic note. That huge iceberg of text you wrote would be easier to read if you broke it up into paragraphs. Maybe even inserted a blank line between paragraphs.
Or maybe you see yourself as a new trend setter, birthing mega-chunks of pure gold. Yeah, sure.
aibohphobia November 27, 2020 at 1:32 pm #
It might be useful to ask ourselves,
"What evidence would be good enough to convince us that we were wrong to believe that this is all a Democrat-controlled voter conspiracy?"
If there is nothing that can convince us that there is no 'there' there, then what we have is essentially a religious belief.
We can also ask, "What evidence would be good enough to convince us that the election-rigging claims are true?"
For me, that would be a successful prosecution in a court of law.
How do YOU answer these questions?
"All a democrat-controlled voter conspiracy" means what? If there are foreigners involved in rigging this US presidential election, someone in the army probably had an eye on them. I don't understand your 2nd puzzling retro statement tho. Statistical, Audio-visual, and material evidence and the record of events/facts are sufficient to get into a court and DECERTIFY. Plus some other things not to be mentioned here, such as live witnesses and Dominion snitches, to see the bones CLEARLY.
aibohphobia November 28, 2020 at 3:14 am #
I am patiently waiting to see these things presented in a US Court of Law.
I mentioned 'democrat-controlled voter conspiracy' because I believed people think that the democrat party had something to do with efforts to rig the election.
But you propose an interesting variation– What if the rigging of the US Elections was entirely a scheme of foreign powers, and the democrats had nothing to do with it?
Well that too would be a great thing to see presented in a court of law. I am looking forward to it.
Many so-called democrats and republicans are wittingly, some unwittingly, acting as agents for a foreign power.
Soloview November 27, 2020 at 2:14 pm #
FYI, epicycles have nothing to do with "geocentrism". Copernicus also used epicycles to calculate the movement of planets. The elliptical orbit was pioneered by Kepler.
Not that this is really a discussion of geocentric theory, but Ptolemy indeed used epicycles to explain retrograde motions of the planets. The theory could not explain that motion without them. A quick google search verifies that.
Word salad.
Low IQ.
MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 27, 2020 at 9:00 pm #
Jer –
That's a lot of words, and clearly you know how to use most of them.
So…anyone seeing any potential election misdeeds as either obvious or worthy of investigation is either an inner-circle Trump loyalist/sycophant…or out of your other three options, a complete idiot. Great debate skills, Jerry. This line of thought is sure to raise much high discussion.
Sorry that you didn't like my post, but I think you also misread it. The "great election fraud" theory that I refer to is not a few "potential election misdeeds" but rather a belief in election fraud so great and widespread that it affected the outcome by hundreds of thousands of votes, all in the direction of Biden, in only the states that Trump lost but needed to win, except Georgia which, by all appearances, did not get affected by the Dominion software scheme for some reason. Phew, that's a mouthful.
I'm not sure anyone believes that there could not have been a single instance of fraud. In fact, the lawsuit in PA was rejected primarily because they asked that the entire PA vote be invalidated because of two plaintiffs whose votes were not "cured" as other votes had been in other counties. I believe the judge agreed that the plaintiffs votes should have been counted. But does it really sound right to you to throw out 7 million votes because of that?
I also said that Trump and a very small inner-circle are playing people for fools in order to further his only remaining goal, which is to delegitimize a Biden presidency in the minds of as many people as possible. He has done quite a good job of this with very little resources compared to what was spent on the election that he lost. However, I don't have any sympathy for the people that are taken in by this.
It is simply a classical conspiracy theory, which is to say, there is no evidence that can disprove it. Any evidence that appears to disprove it is instead incorporated into an ever-expanding list of people involved and increasing complexity of the theory itself.
By the way, whatever happened to the election fraud panel that Trump formed in 2017 because he couldn't stand that he lost the popular vote? That sure would have been a good time to uncover all of these schemes, you know, before the next election. Oh, that's right, they didn't find anything. They must have been in on it too.
Your great achilles here is the failure to realize you have not made an actual argument.
Sidney Powell, a highly respected ex-federal prosecutor says they have hard evidence that the fraud was so great that Trump may have won all 50 states.
She has begun presenting it as of two days ago.
Your retort is to call it a consipracy theory.
You= low IQ.
Jerry1927 November 28, 2020 at 8:35 am #
The argument is clear if you decide not to ignore it. The argument is that there was no massive election fraud that cost Trump the election, but rather simply a deliberate ongoing effort by Trump to cast doubt on the election and delegitimize a Biden presidency. This theory fits all of the known facts so far.
It does not require huge numbers of only democrats in certain states to have somehow falsified hundreds of thousands of votes.
It does not require mysterious operatives at the Dominion voting machine company, cabals of "Deep State" personnel, Communist plots from Cuba, Venezuela and China, Hugo Chavez, or midnight raids of Spanish firms that had the "real" results showing Trump's landslide victory.
It does not require anything to be secret and tens or hundreds of thousands of people to be in on that secret.
Instead, here are some facts that are not in dispute.
Trump claimed even before the election that the only way he could lose is by massive fraud. Now, via circular reasoning, he claims massive fraud because he lost. This, in and of itself, should be a big clue to you that the massive voter fraud theory is simply a classic conspiracy theory. Nevertheless, over 50% of Republicans believe the election was stolen, so, if Trump's goal is to simply cast doubt on the election rather than actually overturn it, he has succeeded by any reasonable measure.
There have so far been no successful lawsuits that have proven voter fraud at the level required to overturn the election.
There have so far been no audits or recounts that have shown significant voter fraud at the level required to overturn the election. This includes Georgia, which uses Dominion voting machines and, as of this morning, Milwaukee WI, where Biden gained a handful of votes in the recount.
As for Sidney Powell's lawsuit that you say is ongoing, we shall see. Trump won all 50 states? If you really believe that, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
Once again, you have presented no argument.
Just unsubstantiated claims that Trump is lying.
In word salad form, of course.
Jer – It's not 7 million votes that need to be overturned. Why do people keep saying that?
Out of 3000+ counties in the US, a malevolent actor would only need to try to influence 5-8 counties that were going to be in important contention to swing the election…oddly enough, the very ones being disputed now We're talking less than 20,000 in some counties, as much as around 100k in one or two others. The ballot drops in the dark of night and the "glitches", if proven true (one of which was admitted by a county to have accidentally tallied around 6000 Trump votes for Biden, which they then "corrected" upon being discovered), are likely more than enough to at least double check…unless you just wanna say, "Okay. I'm satisfied. Done!"
The point is, it doesn't need to be "country-wide, widespread" interference/fraud to create the desired result.
And as for Trump and his inner circle trying to deligitimize a Biden election…hooooleee shit. Good one. Have you read the news for the last four years…at all?
It is rather sad that we've reached the point where any major election is now guaranteed to be disputed by whoever loses (because you know Biden would be contesting the results if he hadn't declared victory before Trump…per his own party and specifically Hillary Clinton's advice months before the election). Hey, if Trump loses (and he's never been "my guy"), fine. But sort through the potential cheating first, then declare victory. Only reason Biden (and his media supporters) declared was to gain the upper hand early and make Trump look like he's a sore loser. And you must know this.
I think you're combining two separate points.
The first one is that Trump's PA lawsuit requested, as remedy for the two plaintiffs whose votes should have been counted, that the entire PA election be invalidated. I think that's around 7 million votes. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs votes should have been counted, but couldn't bring himself to invalidate the entire election as remedy. The text of his decision is available on the internet.
The second is that I stated a lesser amount, hundreds of thousands of votes (more in line with your number), are claimed to be fraudulent by various nefarious methods in the massive election fraud theory. Though I will say another poster has claimed that Sydney Powell's lawsuit alleges that fraud was so widespread that Trump actually won all 50 states. So I guess at least some people believe in what could maybe be called a super-massive election fraud theory.
I'm not sure what your point is on reading news for the last four years. My point is that the massive election fraud theory pushed by Trump has the effect of delegitimizing a Biden presidency. Therefore, a reasonable theory is that that is his goal, plain and simple. It's not really much different at its core than Trump's birtherism attack on Obama. The goal was to delegitimize Obama's presidency. If your point is that democrats had the same goal with impeachment and the Russia investigation, then, sure, eye for an eye. That does not make the massive election fraud theory true.
As for Biden's strategy, what would you have him do? Not declare he's the winner until the massive election fraud believers all admit they're wrong? He absolutely had to get out ahead of what he knew was coming.
"By the way, whatever happened to the election fraud panel that Trump formed in 2017 because he couldn't stand that he lost the popular vote? That sure would have been a good time to uncover all of these schemes, you know, before the next election. Oh, that's right, they didn't find anything. They must have been in on it too." – Jer
If I recall correctly, in 2018 a Senate panel specifically released a report on their concerns about voting machines and other forms of potential election fraud. Mostly democrats.
Sagesse November 27, 2020 at 11:45 pm #
Thank you Jerry for making the first astute comment on this blog. It was raining tin foil hats for so long I almost gave up reading the comments…
How many times have you been banned now, Carghoul?
I have lost track.
You boomers are running around with your hair on fire, mostly due to the fact that the sand in about to run out of your hour glass and a mixed race woman is Vice President. This once fairly relevant blog has deteriorated into a forum for misanthropic non sequiturs and speculative wet dreams. Are you fools still prepping for the "perp walk" of Comey and company? Guess what? It ain't happening. However, former National Security Advisor Flynn The Felon walks away from justice due to his "drain the swamp" buddy Trump.
What I find truly sad is that people like you "its me again" look to sexuality (whether organs or orientation) and race to evaluate a candidate, while knowing nothing about the person's character and ideas. And caring even less. You partisans of identity politics are the shallowest of shallow thinkers.
100th Avatar November 27, 2020 at 7:43 pm #
It's SeaDolt again
Should I submit a comment you are wet with your post as evidence?
no one gives a shít about someone~s genitalia or colour other than you execrable leftists
i love how leftists put minorities on a pedestal ….unless they~re conservative – look at clarence thomas – upon which the loving adherents of tolerance will shred the minority to pieces in the most despicable and lying manner conceivable
Funny how most of my predictions are coming true. I predicted last winter (here a couple of times) that Trump will not get a second term, no matter how well the economy is going. This was even before Covid. It was clear as day to me that the Swamp, Tech Behemoths and the Disinformation Industry will not let that happen. There is no way Trump is getting a second term. Not now, not in 2024. I also predicted that nothing will come of the Durham report, or for that matter, any effort to punish the crazy insurrection in the DOJ and intelligence agencies against Trump. In the noise after Nov.3., it escaped the attention of most that John Durham folded even before being shut down by the returning bosses. Probably, he saved himself and maybe even William Barr, criminal indictment for abuse of office. I also called out Sidney Powell (and took some flak here last week because of that) before Tucker Carlson and Rush Limbaugh did. The Kraken filings this week feature some good, solid arguments (I don't know with what evidentiary support) but also crank "cheating software" theory which I believe will destroy whatever legitimate effort in her submissions. The idea of a "broken algorithm" is truly idiotic, because we have hundreds of thousands, and likely millions of "optimizing" algorithms that are able to handle whatever data you throw at them without manual intervention, because they are ….algorithms. (It's as true of a room thermostat, as it is about a car's cruise control, as it is about algorithms stabilizing stock portfolios.) If you don't believe me, take a look at Andy McCarthy's article in the National Review this week.
So yeah, I remain a skeptic, despite reading Jim here twice a week with a hope he would talk me out of it. .
What's your opinion of Mike Adams perspective on how things will unfold from now to Jan 20.
Is that the guy murdered in the summer? I am not familiar on his views of of post 2020 election development.
No. Mike Adams runs the Natural News website. I like his perspective generally, but I sure hope he's way off about how things will play out in the coming six weeks. Little surprised how hard of a stance he's taken for "let's get the civil war going, we'll all be behind you". He usually writes about organic nutrients/health, self-sufficiency and prepping. He's been going a bit extra headline-oriented of late…can't blame him I guess, it's tough out there.
Pucker November 27, 2020 at 1:36 pm #
I think that in this case that it's not just the Dominion Voting Systems, Inc. algorithm, but also the absentee ballots. They needed the physical absentee ballots. I think that the fraud technique used was called "Drop and Roll"? First, stop the vote count and calculate how many votes that you need to take the lead. Then, drop the requisite number of ballots and then rig the count going forward so that Trump can't catch up. This technique was allegedly used in numerous elections in South America.
There was a number of schemes used to boost Biden's tally, I have little doubt. There was vote "harvesting" (which BTW is not illegal in some states), there was "curing", there was illegal coaching at precincts (ballot is suypposed to be secret) there were differential standards applied to certifying votes, too low numbers of rejected votes may also indicate some votes were simply not counted, mail-in ballots invite duplication of votes. The "drop and roll" is a goofy way to cheat because the discrepancy between votes cast and votes counted can be quickly found in audits and recounts.
What about the mail in scam in Wisconsin?
Under Wisconsin law, no ballots can be mailed out unless requested in writing.
Mail ballots that are received that do not have a matching written request are illegal.
There were about 100,000 such mail-in votes cast without a matching request form in Wisconsin.
Oops. The Biden "lead" in Wisconsin is only around 20,000.
Goodbye Joe.
It reads like this technique requires forged ballots, right? Copies created for the sole purpose? But hat can't be so. Night Owl has stated already that the DHS secretly watermarked, with isotopes no less, every legitimate ballot. So, it should be very simple to identify the forgeries…right Night Owl?
There are actually many methods. One would appear to be watermarks, as confirmed by your favorite Fake Nooze site, WaPo in the previous thread.
And there appears to be nothing secret about watermarks.
FreddieMars November 28, 2020 at 7:30 am #
Nothing secret about the watermarks. You're my source. I haven't found that anywhere else, not even in fake news, like Newsmax or OAN, let alone Fox or Washington Post.
I literally gave you the WaPo link last week.
Muh Jello.
What IS this? Classic cognitive dissonance or the public unravelling of a QAnon zealot????
' Night Owl
November 27, 2020 at 5:32 pm #
FreddieMars
November 28, 2020 at 7:30 am #
I literally gave you the WaPo link last week.'
I cannot recall the link, but it was probably to the debunking information, if it was in WaPo. You've really cocked this one up, sunshine.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/11/bogus-qanon-claim-that-mail-in-ballots-are-illegitimate/
" On the second day without a clear outcome to the presidential election, a QAnon-related conspiracy theory has gained traction on social media.
QAnon followers, who regard President Donald Trump as a crusader against a shadowy group of elite pedophiles who supposedly run the government, have been posting bogus claims that many of the mail-in ballots being counted aren't legitimate.
One widely shared version that started on Twitter and migrated to Facebook says: "Consider: Dept of Homeland Security controlled 'official ballots' production. Dems print extras, not knowing about non-radioactive isotope watermarks on 'official ballots'. Military sting operation. After weeding out all counterfeit ballots, Trump landslide confirmed."
Another commonly copied post on Facebook says, in part: "The 'watch the water' intel refers to …..THE WATERMARK on the official election ballots!!!! …The DEMS fell right into the trap of this sting operation and TRUMP has it all!!! Fraud will be exposed for the world to see."
Both of those posts are pure bunk."
The netizens /From Wikipedia (Creative Commons),
James Howard Kunstler is a far-right American author, social critic, public speaker, and blogger.
He is best known for his books The Geography of Nowhere (1994), a history of American suburbia and urban development, The Long Emergency (2005), and Too Much Magic (2012). In The Long Emergency he… See More
From Wikipedia (Creative Commons)
I posted this last week.
Just another reminder that Wikipedia is a tool for disinformation.
It's up-to-date:
'As a journalist, Kunstler wrote articles for The Atlantic Monthly, Slate.com, Rolling Stone, The New York Times Sunday Magazine, and its op-ed page where he covered environmental and economic issues. Kunstler is also a supporter of the movement known as "New Urbanism."
Kunstler is a harsh critic of both the Republican Party, describing them as "a gang of hypocritical, pietistic sadists, seeking pleasure in the suffering of others while pretending to be Christians, devoid of sympathy, empathy, or any inclination to simple human kindness, constant breakers of the Golden Rule, enemies of the common good."[6] and also the Democratic Party and their "underhanded attempts" to get rid of Donald Trump, a man whom Kunstler sees as showing "strength".[7] He was also a promoter of the concept of a so-called "deep state" working to overthrow and thwart Trump.[8] He endorsed Trump for re-election and declared that he intended to do "everything he can to prevent the Democrats from winning the election."[9]
In an interview with American Conservative, Kunstler attacked gay marriage, describing it as "cultural mischief" that would further damage "a struggling institution".[10]
In recent times, Kunstler has had financial problems,[11] and was described as "seethingly angry" about his writing income falling to only a few thousand dollars annually because of "the tidal wave of free content on the web". In addition, his "lucrative college speaking fees" have disappeared, which he blames on "the rising hysteria on campus against threatening ideas". Kunstler now uses Patreon to crowdfund his writing.[11]'
You know that ordinary people with axes to grind can write for Wikipedia, right? And thus it an be wrong or in case like this, malicious?
She doesn't care. If it comes from a source that sounds "official," then it is true.
Spoon fed.
Like a baby.
"You're full of hatred and rage!", they hatefully raged.
(in reference to "Wikipedia is a tool for disinformation", not Wiki's predictable take on JHK's bio…)
Wikipedia reflects conventional wisdom and received opinion and is of course far from trustworthy. it might (or might not) be all right if you are looking up how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall or need o know the weight of the Leaning Tower of Pisa in metric tonnes. The last bit is actually true. I once had to print off some information about the Tower when my son was in primary school and it was surreal. I bet the entry on The Virus is a real credit to the Wikipedes.
Conventional wisdom? Well perhaps in many or even most of its articles. But wherever anything in the culture can be used as a weapon, Wikipedia is entirely untrustworthy and is more likely to reflect wingnut leftist extremism than anything conventional.
Sean Coleman November 28, 2020 at 12:25 pm #
Yes, conventional wisdom and its first cousin received opinion (as Hitchens puts it). Have you not realized that deranged Leftism is now conventional wisdom and has been for many years?
Yes, it is as you say.
Sean Coleman November 29, 2020 at 9:51 am #
Indeed, just crossed wires here. The term might have a slightly different in America.
It doesn't reflect conventional wisdom. Go read up on what its founder (Larry Sanger) says about it's (de-) evolution.
The site has been taken over by activist editors who edit in line with approved narratives and lock the site down to prevent challenges. JHK is one step removed from a neo-nazi now, you see.
All those little icons that pop up when you open your Web browser? all part of the propaganda network.
Conventional wisdom: see my comment above.
P Hitchens once stated that Wiki is useful for leaning what other people think. I replied to him that it reliably reports what is politically correct.
I do not doubt that, along with the rest of the media, it has been taken over by Leftist editors. How can anyone argue with that?
The question, as always, is how much of this is directed from above and how much is self-imposed. And as always there are always the two elements. And I still tend towards the latter as the most important.
There is an outspoken English doctor (Sean something or other perhaps), getting on in years, who called the virus nonsense from the outset. He was of course maligned and censored. He has threatened to sue one of his chief traducers who he says works for one of the tech giants. Now is this man under orders or just down with the cause?
I loathe Wikipedia and the way it appears ta the top of my search results.
According to Rupert Sheldrake's website he was persecuted on Wikipedia by the so-called Guerllia Skeptics whose self-appointed mission is to eradicate 'pseudo science'.
Jo-G November 28, 2020 at 6:12 pm #
The citation for the "far-right" assertion is this blog. Not a specific post just the entire body of his writings in CFN.
It is odd because, truth be told, JHK doesn't come across as ideological at all.
I have read his stuff for years and can't recall him expressing any very specific, political-sciency views. Unlike the comentariat.
amb November 27, 2020 at 1:52 pm #
As I continue to state in a tireless manner (and am never acknowledged because it isn't clickbait, interesting, etc.) nothing gets solved, this country's demise vector never gets reversed, etc. until we hit the actual target… immorality, criminality, lack of integrity and character in the individual.
Simple laws such as term limits, abolition of lobbying, Congress people being made subject to all the laws that we the people must adhere to, etc. would be a legislative method of curtailing much of the immorality in government (meanwhile, we need to have breakthroughs in the ares of the spirit, human mind, and human behaviour in order to help a human being to truly "be all he/she can be".
But unfortunately that will probably never happen in a society where corporations are considered people, laws are applied unequally, and where the only considerations are profit and gain at all costs no matter the consequence?
James Kuehl November 27, 2020 at 2:49 pm #
There it is, amb. This comes down to character. The default used to be that occasionally a bad player would show up and the system would weed them out. Now, we assume they're all scoundrels or they wouldn't have made it this far. I'm trying to imagine how to bring about the shift you suggest, where integrity rules–without a bloody revolution. Not coming up with much.
"Simple laws such as term limits, abolition of lobbying…"
amb,
Well, you know that will never happen. However, I can give you ONE regulation, used in both Senate and House votes, that if repealed back to it was a number of years ago, would solve the majority of issues you suggest.
Return the House and Senate to secret ballots. When they, several years ago, passed the "transparency" rules, the minions of K Street could then monitor the votes of their bought and paid for legislators….
Without "transparency", the legislator could vote his conscience, and then tell a little white lie to his paymasters.
And…a link;
http://congressionalresearch.org/Citations.html
The change was made in 1970…how time flies….
BackRowHeckler November 27, 2020 at 3:01 pm #
In Portland Thanksgiving is celebrated a little differently; while you were enjoying a day off and turkey dinner with family and friends, citizens in Portland were, once again, rampaging thru the downtown shopping district smashing windows, kicking in doors, looting shelves, and spray painting vile graffiti on storefronts. They also destroyed a 150 year old Mexican-American War Monument. At this point I'm kinda surprised there are still standing monuments in Portland to pull down, and shops left too loot. One of my nieces is an underwriter for one of the big insurance companies in Hartford, and yesterday at dinner I asked her how they deal with business districts in cities with continuous vandalism, looting and arson. She told me they are uninsurable, and blacklisted.
I watched the NBC news last night and, if anyone's confused about how this is going to turn once Biden (or his handlers) firmly have their hands on the reins, Lester Holt gravely told the viewers that two statues had been vandalized by "vandals" and the police were looking for them. So the shock troops are going to be expendable soon. We'll see if they're happy about that.
Dr_Wellington_Yueh November 29, 2020 at 5:30 pm #
Heh…someone should tell them the bridges over the Colombia represent their subjugation by those pasty white Seattlites.
Not to be outdone, in Seattle, some distinguished resident beat a goose to death in a public park, then tore its head off.
The Pacific Northwest, lefty utopia, Democrat paradise and savage land, all rolled up in one.
Where was it, another distinguished resident beat a frazzled raccoon to death. The raccoon had got caught out in traffic not realizing it was caught in the middle of a fight for social justice. Everyone around him praised his brilliance. The distinguished resident, not the raccoon. I would have said 'coon, but that could be misconstrued.
Interesting since PETA is said to be one of large contingents in the Black Block (Antifa). Or was it a Black? They are notorious for their cruelty to animals.
I thought 'distinguished resident' was the tip-off. ('Distinguished' in the local crime blotter.) But yes, it was a Black guy.
I thought the video would be deleted by now (& it probably is) but here's a link to the story.
https://www.worldtribune.com/blm-rioters-beat-raccoon-to-death-only-white-peoples-worry-about-this/
Sad. I really love raccoons. I know they're mischievous and even destructive, and rural Whites like to kill them too, or feel they have to, but even so. Impractical I know. I love their joyful approach to life.
Roundball Shaman November 27, 2020 at 3:27 pm #
"Donald Trump found out the hard way how illusory his powers as POTUS really were, conditioned against the inertia, malice, and bad faith resistance of the bureaucratic establishment, a.k.a. the Swamp."
The Swamp will never be drained. It just keeps expanding and expanding and drowning everything and everyone in its path. Trump was either seriously naive about draining anything other than his credibility, or he just was using one of his ploys to appeal to the flyover people who seem to fall for slogans instead of insisting on real results.
Americans never wise-up. Every four years they go through the empty ritual of "choosing" between two Swamped Up posers. Then for the next four years, nothing gets better. So Americans complain and beg for change that never comes. And they repeat this cycle, again and again, generation after generation. Why would you invest any time and effort in doing something that never ever bears fruit? But that doesn't dissuade the clueless faithful who somehow insist on "doing the same thing but expecting a different result" as a wise one has said.
"…it's already entertaining to see the laughable cast-of-characters that Mr. Biden's managers have picked to run the various federal agencies: slithering millipedes, reptiles, and poisonous invertebrates from the rankest dense-emergent backwaters of the Swamp."
Always best to get those who already know how to exist in the Swamp and enjoy sloshing around in it. They know their place. They know their jobs. They know what is expected of them. And that is… Expand The Swamp. Glug…glug… And never, ever, make things better for We the People.
So what is your plan?
Plan is to wait for the court cases to wrap up, and watch Trump go on to a second term.
At this point, I really don't see how it doesn't happen.
That is my plan too. My only concern is solidarity on the bench.
My backup plan is to find someone I can bribe to get a covid passport.
The latter is the bigger issue. Does anyone think this stuff is going away after the election? Trump or no Trump, this is the long-term plan.
@ Night Owl
I have health issues where I really, really don't want to have to take a vaccine. And my life arangements require that I travel internationally from time to time.
And I also hate being told what to do.
So yeh, I don'tlike it.
shox November 27, 2020 at 3:35 pm #
Man I couldn't stop laughing while reading. Jim is a master story teller. Such sardonic wit and humor!! And thank goodness he's on our side, on the side of sanity. What moderates/conservatives need is a Jon Stewart for their worldviews, poking fun at the preposterous world we're living in. Jim is the next best thing. I wish he had more of a reach.
Behold the Kraken. People are already whispering that it's a masterpiece of the juridical art – and that Sidney Powell might be up for a Pulitzer just as Cuomo is up for an Emmy.
Sardonic? Nay he is mordant! Mocking the Zombies for what they can't help, the fact of being Zombies.
Thanks for that much better choice of adjective! Mordant! Sardonic implies that he is not giving the mocked their fair due. In this case, they have no fair due. They are every bit the reptiles that Jim portrays them as.
JamesNix November 27, 2020 at 11:54 pm #
Perfect. Make it so. Jim Kunstler Show theme music… Sunday Bloody Sunday as it airs at 11:00 am Sunday mornings… (yawn) or every weeknight after Tucker Carlson 9:00pm theme music= Tonight's the Night (Rod Stewart's beckoning of virgins to their deflowering – like beckoning former Democrats/Liberals to their post-woke awakening – either way ""BLOOD is going to be shed!"") The ripest group for aplucking is the end of boomertown Grateful Dead following, supposedly Libertarian thinking "nice guy" weakling, recognizing that Rod "Stewart"(see former; Jon "Stewart" show…?) song for a rip-off of a Jerry Garcia classic "Sugaree". This group thought Republicans were mean and they wanted to get in psuedo-hippie chicks pants, so they attuned themselves to an emasculating journey into manhood, and thought wokesters were edge-thinkers and early adopters, with the sometimes pathetic attempts at adoption of black culture's mega toxic "thug-masculinity") though mostly out of reach for the "Elite Suburban BiCoastal Childhood offspring, hence the facial hair and work clothes for the geek/fool who types all day wishing he was masculine. Jim has no hope with the women, (i loved writing that as bait) except to go full hog baiting the worst of what women have done to our present nightmare (they may be responsible for ALL of it – lol) I have my theories… (uh oh.. another one of "those" guys… topic show number 1 to attract a risk-taking audience which caused more harm to the Democratic party, especially oit's almost total lack of any high level Integrity – The White Chick (Hillary Clinton =CIA) or The Black Guy (Manchurian Barack Obama). I used to read books.
OH damn – I thought like other site's – the reply could be edited after I see it posted up there… I am in trouble now – no editing allowed – well sorry fellas – it is kinda shitty = first timer excuse begging for a free pass – so be nice and ignore me today, please?!
MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 28, 2020 at 8:45 am #
wwg1wga November 27, 2020 at 3:48 pm #
A tale of two republics.
http://www.got-truth.com/docs/A%20tale%20of%20two%20republics.pdf
Caine November 27, 2020 at 4:28 pm #
Good thought JHK. Could the SCOTUS members be sick after watching the swamp all these years? Or, are they simply part of the swamp?
RB November 27, 2020 at 4:40 pm #
I've been in the deepest mines. Thought I'd pop out and see what has happened. The shit continues to hit all the fans. How bad are things when we miss Trump? Yet, the 1000 pound gorilla is standing in the wings which is the national debt measured in TRILLIONS. Unemployment rates are stunningly high. Companies continue to dump employees by the tens of thousands. Millions are subject to evictions and repossessions and that machine hasn't really gotten cranked up.
Trump will make a deal with Biden. No investigations for no kibitzing. The news media have quickly thrown Trump under the buses and that will be going on for 4 years as we hear "Trumps fault" a gizillion times.
There will be no Civil War. The nation is exhausted. It wasn't by mistake that so many federal agencies armed themselves during the Obama years. They have the ammo. Americans cannot afford the stuff.
We are sooooo screwed teammates. But that has been going on since the draft was invented. If you haven't been government screwed yet, standby for your turn. Perhaps it will happen in a vaccine line.
Respectfully, I disagree. Americans aren't exhausted – just the opposite. Many are energized because they resent big time the deprivation of our rights. They may be sick and tired of the way the government has arrogantly handled the pandemic, but that's not being exhausted.
As far as ammo is concerned, many people have prepped for these times by stocking ammo. There's 300 million firearms in the USA. Do you really think there's little ammo? Yes, there's an ammo shortage, and prices are outrageous – but that's because firearm owners have been stocking up at an unprecedented rate.
RB, let's wait and see what goes down in the near future.
Ron Anselmo November 28, 2020 at 9:57 pm #
Yes Bill, all your statements are correct. In addition to gun ownership & ammunition, there are potentially 37 million willing combatants.
If Biden, by some miracle gets elected President, of the 74 million Trump voters, half, or 37 million will wrongly take the "we'll get 'em in 2024" approach. Hint: There won't be a next time.
The remaining 37 million armed combatants mentioned above will become the faction of Deplorables, soon the be know as the "Ungovernables".
Oh, Civil War, it'll never happen here. Yeah, right.
Lot's of people on the blog smoking too much weed for Thanksgiving WE, or just cognitively zoned from tryptophanosis (look up the neurotransmitter massively in turkey). Signing off.
I saw a film today, oh boy!
…a view of the human experiment from across the universe:
http://www.funwithdad.net/funwithdad1koy.htm
" because independent, entrepreneurial investigators will be out in the swing state thickets figuring out exactly how…"
I have come across a number of these independent, entrepreneurial investigators and I salute them all.
The two most recent are German, the independent, entrepreneurial investigative historian Artur Aschmoneit (for his work into Prof Christian Drosten's elusive doctorate) and independent entrepreneurial investigative journalist Torsten Engelbrecht (dogged questioning of the world's laboratory as to whether they had in fact, really and actually isolated 'the virus' and his research into earlier claimed viral scourges, up to and including even polio, the sacred cow of the vaccine lobby).
"Renowned Data and Cyber-Crimes Expert Concludes 2020 Election Results Were Fraudulent"
"Dr. Navid Keshavarz-Nia, is an experienced cybercrimes investigator and digital security executive, who has worked with the CIA, NSA, FBI, and U.S. military counterintelligence. In addition to his work with U.S. intelligence agencies Dr. Keshavarz-Nia works on cyber security and fraud with financial giants like Deutsche Bank and Stripe.
Within the documents filed by Sidney Powell in Georgia Wednesday, Dr. Keshavarz-Nia shares this bombshell assessment in his affidavit. Ms. Powell has some high-powered experts in support of her court filings."
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1332459374187569155
City_of_76 November 27, 2020 at 6:27 pm #
"Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here." — Judge Stephanos Bibas, who was appointed to the court by Trump. Bibas was joined by two other Republican-appointed judges in a unanimous 3-0 panel.
Federal appeals court panel rejects Trump request to block certification of Pennsylvania's election results
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal-appeals-court-rejects-trump-request-for-emergency-injunction-to-overturn-certification-of-pennsylvanias-election-results/2020/11/27/556540ba-30d7-11eb-bae0-50bb17126614_story.html
That's fine. This will be decided in the Supreme Court.
KesaAnna November 27, 2020 at 7:57 pm #
" That's fine. This will be decided in the Supreme Court. "
It's fine , I suppose , if you recall that the Supreme Court once sided in favor of a certain group , with the seeming result that group was pushed further toward , not away from , secession.
Good point. The Black guns may decide in the end.
Kyle Rittenhouse was wearing a Black Rifle Coffee tshirt when released from prison. The company took pains to make clear they had nothing to do with the campaign to raise his bail and did not approve of his actions. People now realize they are just more scumbag liberals trying to cash in on Conservatism.
I don't believe that about black rifle coffee at all!
In fact my son in law and his battle group got 19 bags of coffee free from them while on his last deployment for 207 days without a port stop. that was free as in not even charged for shipping.
What BRC said was he is not an employee or affiliated with black rifle coffee and that was said to not get sued.
Veteran owned company not to say a liberal democrat can't be a vet but they would not be promoting some of the things BRC put out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eugyh5RPAJo
cbeard November 28, 2020 at 8:58 am #
I'm not sure. The Supreme Court may be as corrupt as the lower courts.
Denizens of this site and fellow travelers;
Permit me to repost this bit of doggerel…
When She Was A Lass,
When she was a lass she served a term,
As an office girl to an Attorney's firm,
She cleaned the windows and swept the floor,
And polished up the knob on the big front door.
(Yes she polished up the knob of the big front door!)
She polished that knob so skillfully,
That now she is a part of the Pres' den' cy….
Apologies to Gilbert and…you know, that other guy
Again, I apologize. I am smitten by my own misguided sense of cleverness.
There was an aristo called Kamala
Who shined a pol's pole in an Impala
Now she smiles at the perv
With the misfiring nerves
'Fore poisoning his punch at the gala.
freetrapper November 27, 2020 at 7:32 pm #
Just read this headline:
"Donald Trump says he will leave White House if electoral college votes for Joe Biden…"
No shit you will, Sherlock. Did you honestly think you had a choice in this?
I think it's clear he does. Just like he thinks you can choose to have won even when you've lost. All you have to do is say-so and it's true. Which would be laughable if far too little less than half the country weren't behind him on this.
Something he has in common with today's Far Left, in fact. The truth being whatever it is you're most comfortable with, whatever is most advantageous to your worldview. Who'da thunk the Sunkist Rosebud was in fact a wokester in his heart, deep down underneath that airbrushed orange exterior?
Odd relationship with reality. I guess that much money will do that to a person.
"Mr President, have you stopped beating your wife?"
"I never have."
HEADLINE!
PRESIDENT INSISTS HE HAS NEVER BEATEN HIS WIFE!
Nice media you've got there.
You sound scared bro.
"And, if things don't work out as you expect, don't pee on the rugs on your way out."
"Did I pee on your rug? Did I urinate on your rug? So every time I, just want to understand this, sir, every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?"
— Mr. Jeffrey Lebowski of Little Lebowski Urban Achievers
Your revolution is over, Mr. Trump. Condolences. The bums won. My advice is to do what we, Hunter's parents, did; enable, sir. The bums will always win. Do you hear me, Trump?
Trump is a realist. If he loses the power struggle and it's time to go, he'll go. Leftist love the idea of the Secret Service dragging Trump out while he desperately clings to the first desk. And the fake news uses his realism to speculate that he's close to conceding.
He'll leave with his head held high, never conceding, to cheering crowds of supporters. And he'll work against the saboteurs for the next four years, staring a new network and a joining a Third Party. He's fighter, not a kvetcher like you.
100th Avatar November 27, 2020 at 10:57 pm #
What is a complainer?
That person fissuring the imaginative pillars hoisting your illusion of reality?
Never "happy".
That's what we call today's pessimist.
Isn't it?
Unable to accept "happiness".
Acquiescence defines postmodern joy.
Is it someone that can't accept people's inability to accept reality?
That person who refuses to ignore ignorance.
It's in fact neither.
It's a marginalizing word.
A diminishing word.
People don't call them "skeptics" anymore.
No, there are still traces of nobility in that word.
And people that refuse to believe will not be granted that.
Refuse facts?
The "science"?
The narrative?
The progress?
We hear: your "complaints".
" I've heard my own sister express a fervent desire to shoot our president. "
— Oregonian
I don't know about Oregon , and in this particular case that could factor into it.
( And if it does factor into it , my adherence to the value of states rights is , I think , consistent . I live a thousand miles away from Oregon , to some degree by choice . Certainly I am not inclined to move any closer to Oregon. So I would not tell Oregon what its laws should be , whatever I privately and personally may think of their laws. )
But in many American jurisdictions now communicating threats is a felony , albeit a low tier felony . And it is a felony even if everyone in the room knows , or has good reason to believe , that you didn't really mean it.
No telling how many people have briefly gone to jail on this account , are currently on probation on this account , and subsequently have permanent black marks beside their name on this account.
No telling how many , I suppose , on account of the focus being entirely on serial killers , a fraction of a fraction of a statistic , and police shootings , another fraction of a fraction of a statistic.
My conspiracy theory , it seems to me at least , is no more elaborate than the simple observation that there seems to be two entirely different sets of laws , or one set of laws , but applied very differently , and according to political considerations , not any moral or ethical consideration.
Oregonian November 28, 2020 at 12:36 am #
These are relatives in the deep Blue, dead broke state of Illinois. Hell, she has probably posted it on Facebook, she has posted an anti-Trump screed multiple times per day every day since he was elected.
" Did you honestly think you had a choice in this? "
No .
And no , long before I ever heard of Donald Trump.
" Something he has in common with today's Far Left, in fact. "
And I got the impression that I didn't have a choice , primarily it seems to me , from Leftists , or from folks describing themselves as Liberals , or moderates.
Not at all primarily from right – wingers. What did you have on the right for 70 years ? Francisco Franco , Augusto Pinochet , and El Salvador.
Well the average Westerner couldn't tell you what the flag of El Salvador looks like , or could tell you what a Falangist was.
"or could tell you what a Falangist was."
Kesa,
Everyone knows what a Falangist is…he is a person, invariably male, that receives sexual gratification by rubbing up against you in a crowded subway car….
mccobb November 27, 2020 at 7:47 pm #
Kunstler wrote, "[..] since a 2020 election fraud case will eventually land in the Supreme Court where at least five justices might not be so inclined to let what remains of the Republic roll into a Woke sludge of lawlessness.
In a just universe, the SCOTUS would invalidate the election results in several states and send the matter into the House of Representatives as the constitution stipulates."
And JohnAZ, November 26, 2020, wrote,
"If it is proven, the whole Democratic election "machine" needs to be imprisoned, including the President-elect."
Biden cannot prove to Trump's satisfaction that he got 80 million votes fair and square. The implications lead to several inevitable conclusions. After Sidney Powell and Trump's lawyers convince the Supreme Court that the election was a total fraud, the House of Representatives will decide who will be our next President. There
Trump will be re-elected by a margin of at least 27 to 23 state delegations.
After he's re-elected he'll have to fix the badly broken US voting system. In every state, not only those that declared Biden the winner, Trump will direct the Justice Department to find and destroy all fraudulent voting machines and root out those who ran them, added dead people votes, did not check signatures, and hid the illegal votes from audits. With all trust in our voting system gone, Trump will have to order all future elections suspended until the necessary work is done.
Everyone running the Democrat election machine will be imprisoned. From the top, Pelosi, Feinstein, Biden, to the many who aided and abetted, like the Georgia Secretary of State and the Governor, deservedly long sentences will be meted out. George Soros, the man behind financing the Russian collusion hoax, the Ukrainian impeachment hoax, the funding of the Black Lives Matter scam and Antifa lawlessness, and now stealing the election from Trump, will finally be put out of harm's way for a long time.
Corrupt at all levels, the Democrat party will be disbanded. Trump and his Republican party will have every right to prevent the formation of any political party in its place that would try to revive an agenda of woke mindlessness, cancel culture, and far-left socialism that gives away free stuff. They'll know from experience that any such agenda is intrinsically evil.
Without elections or an opposition party democracy will be dead, and with it the Republic. Not everyone will be happy, but Trump will have the power to put down a woke insurrection. It may not be what we want but this is what we deserve. We will know who to thank.
Well said. Surely special ops could go and get Soros, an arch-criminal right out of James Bond. The problem is how many influential people are in his pocket and would object. Martial Law could silence their unholy din.
And yes, in the new order things will have to be somewhat different. No more shooting ourselves in the foot. The people cannot be subjected to a constant barrage of media and academic evil. Nationalize the media and then sell it back to patriotic groups and individuals, leaving one network in public hands for the President and Congress to use. Close the Universities and restructure them with real scholars. The people will benefit a hundredfold.
Sagesse November 28, 2020 at 12:18 am #
Trump should prove to Biden's satisfaction that he received 74 million votes fair and square.
Oh, and don't forget to imprison everyone from the Republican election machine, I mean there are hundreds who must be in cahoots with the Democrats in order for a deep state operation like this to occur.
Why do people keep thinking Trump is something other than he is?
Trump is nothing.
He isn't even a has been, he is a never was.
He should be pitied. His parents failed him. He may be the unhappiest and shallowest man to ever see 74 years.
He was an infantile self absorbed impostor long before he ever set foot in the oval office.
Why do so many people think he cares about anything but himself? Why do so many people think he is other than who he shows himself to be with every word and gesture he has made in his entire life?
He is the sad, broken product of a failed system. he is nothing more, nothing less.
Trump's hollow joyless need for constant adulation and praise is a sickness.
Hang up your red hats and go talk to your neighbors. Go listen to the other members of your communities. All of them. let the veil of anger and judgement fall away.
Laugh again.
Love again.
Sagesse November 28, 2020 at 1:04 am #
I would add that the far left should put down their over simplified placards as well.
Both sides are guilty of ineffectual and unnecessary judgment and anger.
You put on your red pussy hats first. Your side destroyed civil discourse and started dreaming aloud about violence – and then perpetrating it. You need to repent of your evil fantasies and then your "nice" fantasies about a world of open borders where White people are serfs.
MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 28, 2020 at 12:48 pm #
Well, Trump is clearly a shallow dickhead who's always been rich. So what?
But everything else you said pretty much shows how tolerant and caring you are in your viewpoint. A tad bit of anger and jealousy there. Chin up, your ship can still come in. Hey – it appears you've already figured out the shallow dickhead part, so you've got that going for you…
Anger? No. Disappointment? Perhaps, but not toward Trump. Disappointment toward those who believe this man has anyones interest but his own in mind.
Jealousy? Please. Why would anyone want to be abjectly miserable and without feeling? Trump is the personification of everything one should revile and eschew in this world. I feel only pity toward the man. He will never know colossal splendour of existence.
"John Kerry (the haircut-in-search-of-a-brain)"
Ah yes, another golden hit from years past.
Kerry is special type of phony that drove ole Holden Caulfield's anxiety.
Such is the life of the tenuous brahmin.
And this is good old Boston,
The home of the bean and the cod,
Where the Lowells talk only to Cabots,
and that Heinz heiress who married a clod.
Christopher Heinz (Kerry's stepson), Devon Archer and Hunter Biden.
As Newton observed, the apple does not fall far from the tree.
And this is good old Boston
And the Cabots talk only to God….
Kerry isn't a real Irish name. Completely made up. Cracklin' John is a store bought woman. Skull & Bones.
Nine PAGES of expert testimony from a cyber security expert. This is EVIDENCE.
For Ma Jello, who loves Authority, Hierarchy, and Men in Uniforms.
But wait, are there any typos in there?
tom clark November 27, 2020 at 8:17 pm #
Sooner or later, the president is going to have to grow up and confront his own mortality. Yes, he could choose to run again in 2024, but then he'd be the age Biden is now and subject to the same criticisms re: mental fitness, etc. We need a younger president with a fresh vision.
And as an ex-president, what the hell is he going to do w/ the rest of his life, anyway? I don't see his fat ass skydiving on his birthday, passing as a reasonable artist of Americana (nod to GWB and JHK), building Habitat for Humanity homes in GA (a blue state now…JEC must be smiling), founding his presidential library or writing a book. Maybe Gerry Ford, reconciler after Nixon, can give him some golf lessons.
The guy is a challenge because of his relentless ego, but he is not an interesting person. He's made a lot of money but he lives on the edge. Whoopie-ding. He's living proof that money can't buy happiness. Maybe he'll buy up some of those vacant Manhatten skyscrapers and convert them to homeless shelters.
G'nite Kim.
"If I keep repeating it, it will come true"
Facts as we currently know them:
The tallies are not certified.
Joe Biden is not president elect.
There is hard evidence of massive fraud.
Jammies are on the chair.
" "Simple laws such as term limits, abolition of lobbying…"
Without "transparency", the legislator could vote his conscience, and then tell a little white lie to his paymasters. "
Hey , I have long argued that the logic , " Only a person who has something to hide objects to transparency " is for idiots , or the dishonest.
Old ex – Stasi officers split a gut with laughter when they hear that logic .
" The change was made in 1970…how time flies…. "
Going off the Gold Standard was a temporary , emergency , measure.
That was about 50 years ago too.
Like mask wearing and prohibition of unapproved gatherings.
All temporary.
KesaAnna November 27, 2020 at 10:13 pm #
Whenever folks complain that they wish Kunstler would go back to writing about Peak Oil and the geography of the automobile I would be inclined to agree …..
….. Except I have this gut feeling that if we discovered tomorrow that the moon is a giant ball of petroleum , the news would still be bad.
That is , poverty isn't leading us to totalitarianism .
Poverty is just bringing it out into the open.
Frog and boiling pot.
" They also destroyed a 150 year old Mexican-American War Monument. "
I wonder why , pragmatically at least , anyone could object to a Mexican-American War Monument ?
I mean , undoubtedly it is a monument to American imperialism.
But since when have Leftists really objected to imperialism ?
Imperialism is at least implicit , if not explicit , in some idea of a common culture.
But , ok , let's say the idea is diversity ?
Then there is the unintended but inevitable exposure to the bad guys , or good guys , that such monuments not uncommonly give.
For example , many years ago in Charleston South Carolina I saw a monument to the Spanish – American War.
The monument primarily consisted of a Spanish Hotchkiss gun looted from a Spanish warship in the war.
Well, I'm a fan of the long – forgotten anti – torpedo – boat – defense naval Hotchkiss gun ,
and my sympathies were with the Spanish .
But , if not for this monument to American imperialism , where could I hope to see in America a Spanish naval Hotchkiss gun , or an unintended monument to the Spanish Imperial army in its twilight years ?
BackRowHeckler November 28, 2020 at 6:58 am #
KesaAnna, good points.
stelmosfire November 28, 2020 at 8:53 am #
Kesa: where could I hope to see in America a Spanish naval Hotchkiss gun ?
For starters you could try looking in Elysianfield's basement.
Saint,
Don't be ridiculous. I have never even SEEN a Hotchkiss. I did own a Bren, MG34, and a brace of BAR's, however.
This Hotchkiss chap was from Connecticut, altho I believe he moved to Paris to get his gun produced. He must have sold quite a few, enough to found the Hotchkiss School out in Lakeville, Ct.
Soul Forensics November 27, 2020 at 11:04 pm #
DNC must be filling their pants over current closely-checked count in Wisconsin.
WI legislators loosened the requirements, this election, for the rule whereby those who couldn't come to polls because of illness, debility, or disease, or who otherwise couldn't put signatures and addresses to ballots, could apply for the category of Indefinite Confinement. Ordinarily, the numbers in this category were a few hundred per election. This time, 170,000 new applicants applied (and, of course, all passed), and the total ended up at 235,000. Yes, that's right. From a few hundred to 235,000.
Matt Braynard, data analytics expert who's been following the situation, estimates that the ratio of phony/questionable to legit ballots under these auspices runs about 8 to 1.
Notice how the MSM has been dead silent about Wisconsin.
Final votes there are supposed to be in by Sunday, though I'm sure DNC will somehow try to stonewall through whatever nefarious means they may yet have under their dirty sleeves.
Q. Shtik November 27, 2020 at 11:22 pm #
whatever nefarious means they may yet have under their dirty sleeves. – Soul F
I would have used the word up
I realize that that's the common expression, but I respectfully disagree with it, just to extend the pedantic back-and-forth. "Up" could conceivably also be "outside". "Under", however, means that it's hidden.
Just another in a long line of lawsuits that will fail.,
So far over thirty lawsuits tossed, all in different courts, all with different judges, both Republican and Democrat, many with scathing rebukes.
Not one win yet for 'The Elite Strike Force Team'.
C'mon. This is beyond pathetic.
"So far over thirty lawsuits tossed,"
Team Trump has, I believe, lodged only four lawsuits so far and this recent one in Pennsylvania is the first to go to any kind of judgement,
So what are these "over thirty lawsuits" that are you refereeing to?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-s-election-fight-includes-over-30-lawsuits-it-s-n1248289
The Fake Nooz narrative here is easy to deconstruct, unless one is a Sagesse.
President Trump is going to stay in office, and your tears will flow like wine in Caligula's bedchamber.
Soul Forensics November 28, 2020 at 4:37 am #
Most of those lawsuits are nothing burgers, meant only to set the entire, grinding process in motion. Of course State counties/districts are going to put up a blockade. Think they want light shone on their skullduggery? Look what happened to Monica Palmer in Michigan when she and another offficial voted the 'wrong' way.. (Doxxing, her kids threatened, and her own life threatened.) That was a giant message to other local vote workers and county officials.
This was always going to be settled by the Supreme Court and the Electoral College. The State legislators are proving gutless, RINOs not wanting to jeopardize their chances at maintaining their five-figure mortgage payments for their palatial estates for Orange Man Bad who they didn't want, anyway, and who's been radioactive since the finesse was in at 3 a.m. Nov 4th.
"Leaving Biden in the dark … on crucial security issues."
Ahahahahaha!!!!
Luckily, he's already in the dark. Security-issue-Joe may soon forget all the deals he's already finagled with the CCP. It's the others propping him up that are the problem.
@ Saggy droopy (dugs?)
So your response is a flat-out lie. The link states "President Trump and other Republican…"
1. Team Trump, the President's official legal reps have launched only four cases. All are still active.
2. The link claims 40, but does not name or link to a single one.
Why not say 150?
Learn to lie better.
Sagesse November 28, 2020 at 5:26 pm #
It is like, unbeknownst to yourselves, you guys are stuck in a game of Escape the Room. You spends your days trying to find the clues to your escape never realizing that all the while you re just stuck in a game.
Untethered from reality you guys spiral deeper and deeper into your character, always searching for the next big reveal, never realizing that none of your grand epiphanies ever materialize in reality.
And so our intrepid dark web heroes soldiers on, tirelessly working to save humanity,… and cackling all the way…
Q. Shtik November 28, 2020 at 6:21 pm #
And so our intrepid dark web heroes soldiers on – Sagesse
There are two ways to fix this… take your pick. Do you want singular hero or plural heroes?
1. our intrepid dark web hero soldiers on
2. our intrepid dark web heroes soldier on
My intent was option #2 Q Shtik.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/11/pennsylvania-state-judge-halts-certification-finds-likelihood-mail-in-balloting-procedures-violate-pa-constitution/
Pennsylvania State Judge Upholds Halt To Certification, Finds Likelihood Mail-In Balloting Procedures Violate PA Constitution
A Pennsylvania state court Judge has issued a preliminary injunction preventing Pennsylvania from taking any further steps to perfect its certification of the election, including but not limited to appointment of electors and transmission of necessary paperwork to the Electoral College, pending further court hearings and rulings. The ruling upholds an injunction from earlier in the week…
The issue in this case is whether legislative expansion of absentee balloting to broad mail-in balloting violated the Pennsylvania Constitution. It's not clear what the relief would be; the petitioners seek to preclude the Secretary of State from transmitting the certification or otherwise perfecting the electoral college selections….
The Judge found, among other things, that the plaintiffs were likely to prevail on their PA constitutional claims….
This is not a final ruling on the merits. It's meant to prevent PA from taking more steps until the court finally rules.
Given how the PA Supreme Court has ruled previously on election matters, expanding procedures beyond what even the legislature adopted, I don't see how this survives the PA Supreme Court.
From there, the next stop is the U.S. Supreme Court where we know John Roberts and the three liberal Justice will defer to the state supreme court. But the Court is now 6-3, so a Roberts defection would not result in a 4-4 deadlock again if the 5 conservative Justices voted together.
JohnAZ November 27, 2020 at 11:29 pm #
Reading the charter and platform of the Constitution party.
It is diametrically opposed to all things Deep State. It is definitely a better home for the Deplorables than the RINO style GOP.
Suggest we all read this and change affiliation if inspired. The two party system is now the uniparty. BTW, if the declaration of the honesty and morality requirements for the candidates of the Constitution party were applied to the Deep State, very few of the swamp would survive.
PeteAtomic November 27, 2020 at 11:51 pm #
I noticed as I pulled up Jim's blog today on my smartphone that, in the results, was the wikipedia description of Jim as a "far right wing author" .. hmmmm (scratching head)..
So, this is what happens. If you stand your ground and write about the insanities of the woke cancellers, you are "far right". Of course, anybody who disagrees with cultural marxism is naturally "far right" to those who are involved in trying to rewrite US history & the English language.
That was Raygun's claim – "I didn't leave the Democratic party, they left me!".
"Raygun".
Will you never escape your chains?
Oh lala, don't ever change. You are our Joan Baez, Stevie Nicks, and Jane Fonda all in one. They all shared one defective brain, passing it around like a joint.
Yohannon November 28, 2020 at 2:12 am #
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/11/27/the-elimination-of-cash-has-begun-italian-government-explicitly-offers-10-discount-to-not-use-cash/
Ann predicts cash being banned in the West within 18 months. I have no idea if that's credible, but I think it's coming. The timing may depend on the reelection (or not) of Donald J Trump.
Australia has been planning to ban cash for purchases over either $AUD 7500 or $AUD 10,000 for some time. The legislation just has to pass the Senate. It may have already.
Globalist tool Scott Morrison, so enthusiastic about the COVID (Certficate of Vaccination ID) fraud, is just as enthusiastic about removing from citiizens their rights to keep money as they wish and will require them to hand their private property over to the banks.
It will then be much easier to fine people, apply negative interest rates, charge fees, seize funds for 1000 "public interest" purposes, drive people out of business, force compliance against social resisters like vaccine refusers or resisters, people who wish to leave their homes when told not to, homes schoolers, or citizens who commit Wrongthink or Badspeak on social media or elsewhere.
Globalist Morrison says it will help to catch criminals in the black economy (Australia already has the smallest black economy in the world) and tax evaders (Australia already has the highest tax compliance in the world) and terrorist funding (is this such a huge problem in to Australia that its citizens must give their right to private property?)
Scam.
Average stupid Aussies too drunk and stupid to notice.
When is Andrew Jackson being removed from the $20, and Aunt Jemima going on?
BRH,
How utterly insensitive you are. The new twenty dollar bills, when issued are to be called "buckwheats"*
*…Or so I'm told….
stelmosfire November 28, 2020 at 7:16 pm #
I don't know El, I have it on good authority the new 20's will be called "double sawbuckwheats"
Night Owl November 28, 2020 at 12:14 pm #
This may not be as far-fetched as you think.
You get bizarre, woke historical revision, along with a woke corporate tie-in.
Uncle Ben has surely earned his place here, too. Ru Paul goes on the 100.
"All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers. We found no evidence to the contrary," Briand concluded.>/i>
Is anyone here really surprised by this?
Candidate for "biggest fraud in history".
I would not normally post an entire article, but this is definitely worth considering at length.
So again, in summary, the research tell us that the United States has had no excess deaths this year and thus the COVID pandemic story was a huge beat up.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201126223119/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19
According to new data, the U.S. currently ranks first in total COVID-19 cases, new cases per day and deaths. Genevieve Briand, assistant program director of the Applied Economics master's degree program at Hopkins, critically analyzed the effect of COVID-19 on U.S. deaths using data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in her webinar titled "COVID-19 Deaths: A Look at U.S. Data."
From mid-March to mid-September, U.S. total deaths have reached 1.7 million, of which 200,000, or 12% of total deaths, are COVID-19-related. Instead of looking directly at COVID-19 deaths, Briand focused on total deaths per age group and per cause of death in the U.S. and used this information to shed light on the effects of COVID-19.
She explained that the significance of COVID-19 on U.S. deaths can be fully understood only through comparison to the number of total deaths in the United States.
After retrieving data on the CDC website, Briand compiled a graph representing percentages of total deaths per age category from early February to early September, which includes the period from before COVID-19 was detected in the U.S. to after infection rates soared.
Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same.
"The reason we have a higher number of reported COVID-19 deaths among older individuals than younger individuals is simply because every day in the U.S. older individuals die in higher numbers than younger individuals," Briand said.
Briand also noted that 50,000 to 70,000 deaths are seen both before and after COVID-19, indicating that this number of deaths was normal long before COVID-19 emerged. Therefore, according to Briand, not only has COVID-19 had no effect on the percentage of deaths of older people, but it has also not increased the total number of deaths.
These data analyses suggest that in contrast to most people's assumptions, the number of deaths by COVID-19 is not alarming. In fact, it has relatively no effect on deaths in the United States.
This comes as a shock to many people. How is it that the data lie so far from our perception?
To answer that question, Briand shifted her focus to the deaths per causes ranging from 2014 to 2020. There is a sudden increase in deaths in 2020 due to COVID-19. This is no surprise because COVID-19 emerged in the U.S. in early 2020, and thus COVID-19-related deaths increased drastically afterward.
Analysis of deaths per cause in 2018 revealed that the pattern of seasonal increase in the total number of deaths is a result of the rise in deaths by all causes, with the top three being heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia.
"This is true every year. Every year in the U.S. when we observe the seasonal ups and downs, we have an increase of deaths due to all causes," Briand pointed out.
When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph below, this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes.
This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years. Interestingly, as depicted in the table below, the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19.
The CDC classified all deaths that are related to COVID-19 simply as COVID-19 deaths. Even patients dying from other underlying diseases but are infected with COVID-19 count as COVID-19 deaths. This is likely the main explanation as to why COVID-19 deaths drastically increased while deaths by all other diseases experienced a significant decrease.
"All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers. We found no evidence to the contrary," Briand concluded.
In an interview with The News-Letter, Briand addressed the question of whether COVID-19 deaths can be called misleading since the infection might have exacerbated and even led to deaths by other underlying diseases.
"If [the COVID-19 death toll] was not misleading at all, what we should have observed is an increased number of heart attacks and increased COVID-19 numbers. But a decreased number of heart attacks and all the other death causes doesn't give us a choice but to point to some misclassification," Briand replied.
In other words, the effect of COVID-19 on deaths in the U.S. is considered problematic only when it increases the total number of deaths or the true death burden by a significant amount in addition to the expected deaths by other causes. Since the crude number of total deaths by all causes before and after COVID-19 has stayed the same, one can hardly say, in Briand's view, that COVID-19 deaths are concerning.
Briand also mentioned that more research and data are needed to truly decipher the effect of COVID-19 on deaths in the United States.
Throughout the talk, Briand constantly emphasized that although COVID-19 is a serious national and global problem, she also stressed that society should never lose focus of the bigger picture — death in general.
The death of a loved one, from COVID-19 or from other causes, is always tragic, Briand explained. Each life is equally important and we should be reminded that even during a global pandemic we should not forget about the tragic loss of lives from other causes.
According to Briand, the over-exaggeration of the COVID-19 death number may be due to the constant emphasis on COVID-19-related deaths and the habitual overlooking of deaths by other natural causes in society.
The list of thngs that they do not want us to see grows ever-longer.
https://notthebee.com/article/a-few-days-ago-johns-hopkins-published-a-study-saying-corona-is-nbd-they-then-deleted-it-read-it-here-in-its-entirety
I've been thinking quite a bit about the 1968 Hong Kong flu lately.
Though the offshoot to the 1957 Asian flu didn't take hold in the U.S. until Xmas 1968, the Hong Kong iteration was still in the news in July of that year during the iconic three-day Woodstock festival where a half-million non-social distancing mouth-to-mouth friends and strangers congregated.
I was twelve then, and my parents, like all other parents of the time, didn't infect their children with fear and wild supposition. In fact, they didn't tell me anything. (I was a sporadic news watcher, but I did watch occasionally, and the media coverage was lax.) I didn't find out there was such a thing until a few years later.
Of course, there were real fears in some quarters. The Hong Kong flu has been called an explosive disease, meaning that it took hold with frightening force, but only sporadically, and in isolated areas. Germany and France were hit particularly hard.
But after the second winter wave in 1969-70, it faded, and is now folded into one of many variations we still get every year.
The Wall Street Journal, earlier this year, on the back of general media-driven Covid fear, stated that the vaccine caused the H.K. flu to weaken and (essentially) die. That is bullshit. The vaccine arrived too late, and, of course, no one knows how effective or ineffective it would have been, anyway.
Fear, subordination, and humans' overwhelming desire to conform: the illegitimate powers-that-be issue diktats with the facile confidence of a weatherman showing a satellite map of the Sahara, and the full knowledge of the significance of the famous Milgram experiments, since replicated many times and for many years.
Good points, SF. I wondered about the HK flu too, and if the response to it (at the time) has any significance today. If you recall, '69 was the year the Mets won the pennant, which meant July-October of that year 50,000 fans crowded into Shea Stadium every home game, none of them wearing a mask. The Jets and Knicks won championships that year as well, not to mention blockbuster plays running on Broadway, literally drawing millions from all over the US and the world into NYC. Was the HK flu any less deadly than Covid, or less contagious? What's different now?
stelmosfire November 28, 2020 at 10:11 am #
Don't forget Woodstock in the summer of '69 with a half million hippies passin' doobies and swappin' spit. LBJ and Shamu the killer whale both had the Hong Kong flu and it killed Allan Dulles of CIA fame. The good ol' days when you could name a pandemic after the location where it evolved. God forbid anyone say "Wuhan" flu or the "China" virus.
https://nypost.com/2020/05/16/why-life-went-on-as-normal-during-the-killer-pandemic-of-1969/
There it is, RIP, a generational divide.
I remember climbing over the face of a 19th century industrial dam to get at a potentially good fishing spot, tons of water rushing past us, rods slung over our backs, letting ourselves down on some old clothesline rope we rigged up … and our parents thinking nothing of it.
And when Community Members rioted and set Hartford on fire and threatened to come over the mountain and do the same to our town, nobody wrung their hands and fretted about Social Justice and hung Black Panther banners on their houses; no, our fathers and uncles broke out their Winchesters, Garands and M1 Carbines, and patiently waited on the front porch.
Or in old White Detroit: White men came out with bats, golf clubs, and hockey sticks and beat the savages back.
Tate November 28, 2020 at 4:05 am #
JH,
If you get a chance it's worth watching The Joseph Cotto interview with Rich Baris.
Baris was just booted off Twitter for reporting the news on the disputed election.
Nice article from The Atlantic (where JHK may not contribute) by Peter Beinart, November 21, 2016.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/the-electoral-college-was-meant-to-stop-men-like-trump-from-being-president/508310/
The Electoral College Was Meant to Stop Men Like Trump From Being President
The founders envisioned electors as people who could prevent an irresponsible demagogue from taking office.
Howvever, in his "Ideas" column of September 15, 2020, Mr Beinart declares that…
The Electoral College Is Also a Climate Problem
If the West Coast fires were happening in swing states, presidential candidates wouldn't be able to ignore the issue.
Leftists. They really are beyond help.
If you read the Atlantic and the Guardian, everything is a Climate Problem, solvable by only 'smashing capitalism', 'divesting in Big Oil, and establishing draconian rule by Climate Czars and People's Committees (made up of various political cranks and lefties) who will issue orders and dictates, telling you which cars to drive (or if you can even own a car at all) how to heat your house (electric, powered by windmills and solar panels, even in Maine) and what food to eat (no meat).
Are you start to rethink your entire outlook? The idea that "America" (the Corporations) had a "moral" right to spread revolution in order to spread American style culture and "democracy"? That leads directly via electoral and donations fraud to drug addiction, abortion on demand, broken marriages, mass homosexuality and now transgender right?
If not, why not? Show you work.
Not to worry, no matter what edicts Climate Czar John Kerry lays down, limiting access to oil, coal and natgas for ordinary people in order to 'prevent climate change and sea level rise', his ocean front mansion will remain brightly lit and nicely warmed, and the private jet will stand ready at the airport out on the Vineyard. True, you might be hungry and freezing your ass off up in Dover-Foxcroft, Maine, but hey, sacrifices must made and a price must be paid to SAVE PLANET EARTH and keep the climate stable.
Yea Ok, do as I say, not as I do you peons!
https://www.peakprosperity.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/6161CCB1-17DE-4D5C-B42E-E5F15765AEC1-296×300.jpeg
Hopefully the freezing poor will boat over from Hyannis and sack his mansion.
Why nothing for Al Bore? Why isn't he "climate czar"?
JohnAZ November 28, 2020 at 7:32 pm #
This is another political con job.
"Believe the scientists", over and over. The scientists have been taking data for decades now. We know no more about what is causing the heat rise than we did fifty years ago.
The heat rise is here. Phoenix for example broke all kinds of records last summer. Hurricanes and tornadoes are more intense. But for example, is increasing CO2 causing it or are the constant expansion of heat islands from cities causing the air temperature rise. Or is the deforestation of the tropics causing increases? Who knows?
GND destroys today's economy. Is it going to do anything to stop fossil fuels if it is not the problem? Another Democratic boondoggle.
Mike Roberts November 29, 2020 at 4:37 am #
Come on. This is basic data recording – heat islands are adjusted for. Heating is global and we've known for decades that CO2 (increasing due to human behaviour) is the main culprit for trapping heat that would otherwise be radiated to space. There is a global upward trend with short term variation imposed on that (sometimes lessening the heating, sometimes exacerbating it). This is really not something that is controversial.
It's good that there will be someone concentrating on climate change for the US but I'm not expecting significant action, so don't worry if you are dead against reducing fossil fuel use; there won't be much impact from having a Climate Change Csar.
"CO2 (increasing due to human behaviour) is the main culprit
I'm sure you meant that CO2, increasing partly to human behavior is a contributing factor. If, however, you address human behavior as the sole, main culprit, please show your work. Graphs that show CO2 increasing and are coincidental with human population are not absolutes…but they might rise to the level of "fun facts"….
The primary source of additional CO2 is humans burning fossil fuels. They also cut down trees. There is some natural fluctuation but humans have overwhelmed that. Best estimate for warming since 1950 is that human contributions can account for all of it.
I didn't mention the correlation with population growth but as people use stuff then it's clear that the two will go hand in hand to some degree.
Daily Stormer on the John Hopkins scandal anent covid
Quoting from the pulled article: "All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers. We found no evidence to the contrary," Briand concluded.
Anglin speaks: There you have it.
In so many words, this is an absolute admission that the entire thing is a hoax. That said, the data, which I have continually pointed to, existed before the Johns Hopkins University admitted what the data obviously meant.
I have pushed this from the beginning: the total deaths are not increasing, which means anyone dying of coronavirus either did die from something else, or would have died from something else.
You might be saying: "Anglin, this must feel great to have Johns Hopkins admitting what you've been saying all along!"
The answer to that is: "No, actually no, it doesn't."
I already knew I was right, because I already had the total death numbers. I already had Deborah Birx admitting that she falsely classifies deaths as coronavirus-related when people die of other causes.
I didn't need my argument confirmed by "authorities," because I already knew I was right.
All this admission does is make me even more angry.
The coronavirus, in the sense of the claim that this is a deadly virus that is some kind of a threat, is literally a hoax. Now, the leading medical authority in the country is admitting that it is a hoax. And yet, they've apologized for admitting that it was a hoax, and said that they didn't mean for people to use their admission that it is a hoax to imply that it is a hoax.
This is actually infuriating. The leading medical authority in the country can say "sure, this is just a hoax," while pointing to data that proves definitively that it is a hoax, and then the same thing that was happening can continue to happen.
It just proves the other thing that I've been saying from the beginning: Democracy is not a viable system of government, because the masses of peasants are so very easily manipulated by the media.
There is literally no way to end this hoax without someone in authority declaring that it has ended. There is no reality in which you convince the masses of people that it is fake and they should resist. They do not care about reality, they simply care about doing what they are told to do, because it feels good to them to do as they are told.
If any authority is confronted with this data, they will say "yes, but we have to do the lockdown anyway, because we can't risk it." They will not understand what risk exists when we know no one is dying, they will simply rely on the media, which has created all of this fear.
The truly amazing takeaway from the fact that coronavirus has caused no deaths is that this lockdown is going to end up causing untold death. We still aren't seeing the economic fallout from the lockdown, because the government is continuing to print money. But when that happens, untold numbers are going to die from suicide and drugs. In the third world, people will starve.
That's aside from the lives that it is destroying. When all is said and done, virtually everyone who is not a billionaire or a government official will have had their lives destroyed by this hoax. Job loss, divorce, mental illness – the scope of destruction is incomprehensible.
On top of that, we've surrendered all of our civil rights to the government, becoming the single most oppressed population that has ever existed in all of history. None of those freedoms are ever coming back.
We have to remember the people who did this to us. We cannot ever forgive them for it.
Yoho: Science is dead along with journalism, at the official level, the level where it can directly influence public policy. A premier Medical Institution has apologized for telling the truth. That is damning. Raw political power now has full control, just as in Communist Russia and China.
I tried to explain this to Alba. This is the same as the mask studies that find masks don't help but end with researchers saying, Well of course we have to continue to wear masks. Our betters have told us to. People who don't bow are going to disappear from their field. Or probably start disappearing in a more unpleasant sense in the near future.
The "pulled" article is still available as a pdf on the Hopkins website and is not hidden. The article states that it used CDC death data to draw its conclusions. Instead of reading that article, why not go to the data source? Here is the link:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
If you go down about a third of the way, there is a chart that clearly shows "excess" deaths that are significantly above the trendline. You can also download the raw data as I did and check the numbers yourself. The current estimate of excess deaths for the US in 2020 has a range from 230682-325319.
I have no idea how the author managed to conclude from this data that there have been no excess deaths in the US in 2020. Since the author is an economist, my guess would be some very basic math error.
The covid death data is hopelessly compromised due to fraud. Sort of like everything in our society apparently. That's why people who were killed in car accidents actually died of covid ya know.. So maybe there is excess death but how will you ever really know what that number is? And that ambiguity is a good tool for anyone excited about managing a "crisis". Uncertainty provides a perfect opportunity for opportunists. And for people who wish to gain control over the situation. And so now knowing so much fraud has always existed how can we be certain the crises aren't just manufactured?
You have no idea because the author knows far more than you do.
Like other medical professionals who speak out, and despite her incredible achievements, she is being censored.
Unless you have a paper in which your counterposition is detailed for us, Dr.?
I am not claiming to "know" anything. I am claiming to have gone to the same source as the author did, looked at the CDC chart of excess deaths and downloaded their spreadsheet. Have you done the same? Why not do that and then make your counter-argument as to why the chart looks the way it does for 2020 but that somehow there are no excess deaths as the author claimed. My "counter-position" to the retracted article is simple: the CDC data to which I provided a link (and which must be what the author used) definitely shows excess deaths in 2020 and the estimate from the spreadsheet is reasonable. Do you want to claim that the CDC data on total deaths from all causes is not valid? If so, I'm afraid that would also invalidate the paper that is the source of this "controversy" because the author said she used the CDC data.
And the author is certainly not a medical professional. As I stated she is an economist (easily verified). She has a pHd, so, in that sense, she is a doctor, but not a medical doctor. Maybe that is the "incredible achievement" you are referring to.
Aw, good try. See, you need to make a counter argument to her.
So far, you have failed.
Ahh, Jerry1927.
I must say it truly warms the cockles of my heart to witness how effortlessly you slice through the colossal perversion of facts that litter Jim's blog.
The responses from the hermetic confederacy of dunces that gather here can become impossibly tedious if not punctuated with the occasion dose of sense and sensibility.
Kudos for your service.
SoftStarLight November 29, 2020 at 3:45 am #
Haha that is funny but you'll have to try harder Dundee. After all, why would any sensible person bother trying to slice through the colossal perversion of facts emanating from a hermetic confederacy of dunces? Is the enforcement of narrative compliance really that desperate for you all that you must encroach upon sealed off communities or are ya'll just naturally very tedious and cocksure?
Kim November 29, 2020 at 12:40 am #
@ Jerry1927
The "pulled" article is still available as a pdf on the Hopkins website and is not hidden.
Another leftist lie by omission. The article was in fact "pulled".
Here are the editors of the JHU newsletter stating that they in fact did retract (censor and indeed, even change before reposting elsewhere) the article:
Marvis Gutierrez and Ariella Shua, the managing editors of the JHU newsletter, assured Lead Stories that the article/study was not censored. "The article in question was retracted last night, as it was being used to spread misinformation about the pandemic. We have preserved the article as a PDF and posted an Editor's Note: with full clarification about our decision, highlighting the inaccuracies of the study…We were not censored, but decided to retract the article based on the reasons outlined in the Editor's Note.""
So yes, it was retracted.
Here is the author of the article on Briand's study, Yanni Gu, responding to the article being pulled:
Today, on November 27th, The News-Letter officially posted their reason for retracting the article, stating inaccuracies in the analysis. I am frustrated at the explanation, and I think it is disrespectful to Dr. Briand's hard work putting data together and doing an honest analysis. If her analysis was to be contradicted, then at least an equal-level analysis should be done to provide more data and thus a new conclusion. Dr. Briand and her work deserve such respect.
The powers-that-be have put their best efforts into advancing this massive fraud, and have used it to destroy Western economies and roll back human rights of every person on earth.
So of course they – and you Jerry1927 – will tell any lie and censor anyone to support this insanity.
Maybe you are arguing semantics here. I absolutely agree that the article was retracted. My point was that if you go to the Hopkins newsletter, as you already mention yourself, there is a message at the location of the retracted article explaining their position on why they retracted it. It includes a statement that they refute the paper's position that there have been no excess deaths in the US in 2020, and a link to a pdf of the original article.
http://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19
You can either agree or disagree with their reasons for retracting it, but it's not a conspiracy. I happen to agree with their retraction because I downloaded the CDC data which the paper supposedly used and I think the data does not support this statement from the paper:
"…not only has Covid-19 had no effect on the percentage of deaths of older people, but it has also not increased the total number of deaths."
The data from the CDC definitely shows a significant increase in deaths in 2020. You can just look at their simple graph to see that. Then the only question is what is the cause. Given the filled hospitals, people in the ICU, companies investing billions on a vaccine, one person I know personally that died of it and another who was severely ill, I'm going to go with Covid. You can examine each death and pick apart whether it should be attributed to Covid or not, but that doesn't change the overall pattern.
This is all not mentioning the fact that the massive fraud you are speaking of would involve every nation in the entire world, Western or not, any race or ethnicity, any politics. Every leader (even Trump!), every medical professional, every hospital, every family that claims a Covid death, well, basically, pretty much everyone, except you.
Yep. Jerry1927
Round here, they like their "conspiracy frauds" as massive as you can possibly conceive them, and then some.
The Australian govt has closed down its entire economy for ten months. Trillions of dolars.
Deaths? 907.
Average age. 84 years.
Where I live, nothing has closed. Masks are not worn. Mosques are open and full. Weddings go on. People eat together all the time.
"Birkat" – handmade food offerings – are delivered from house to house every day, farmers farm. Builders build.
Still no covid deaths.
Yes, the covid scam is a globalist scam. Gavin Newsom and his dining pals make that crystal clear.
It makes use of
1. well funded globalist institutions
2. globalist politicians
3. salaried globalist bureaucrats
4. globalist mass media
5. the law
It censors suppresses and punishes objections and criminalizes protest.
It is righttin front of our faces and your weak gaslighting attempts are 1970s-tier.
"The Australian govt has closed down its entire economy for ten months. Trillions of dolars(sic)"
I'll put this down to hyperbole because it's simply not true.
As for 'globalist', read "JEWS!!!"
Aside from what Jerry stated in his reply, it's impossible to make definitive comparisons with previous years because COVID-19 restrictions have also had an impact on deaths.
There is no hoax about COVID-19, even in the US, hospitalisations are now as the highest point in this pandemic. It's amazing that some folks here think that 200 countries around the world are in on this hoax.
I did find it interesting that the CDC clearly admits on its website re the provisional covid death count, "These deaths could represent misclassified COVID-19 deaths, or potentially could be indirectly related to the COVID-19 pandemic (e.g., deaths from other causes occurring in the context of health care shortages or overburdened health care systems)." Lots of routine medical care has been disrupted. What ill effects and potential deaths are resulting from this? What about suicides and other negative health effects due to job loss, financial ruin, homelessness, divorce, social isolation, etc., caused by the lockdowns?
Yes, there are all sorts of unknown factors which make year to year comparisons almost impossible. There will be some deaths which are definitely caused by COVID-19 but the true figure may never be known.
Only covid deaths matter. It is the sacred disease. No doubt some are trying to get it at this point so they can meet some "nurse heroes".
Total deaths in the US by year per CDC:
2020: as of 11/14, total deaths= 2,512,880
At present the US is experiencing a 1.12% increase in overall mortality rates for 2020. Not pandemic numbers.
In 2019, there was also a 1.12% increase.
And in 2018 there was a 1.22% increase in mortality rates; a 1.24% increase in 2017; a 1.27% increase in 2016; a1.27% increase in 2015; and a1.29% increase in 2014.
I guess this means seven years of pandemics, bro.
The Corona Con.
I've got no idea where you got those numbers. If you download the CDC spreadsheet "deaths from all causes" from the link I provided and add up column C (observed number), lines 31111:31156 (the year 2020, entire US) the number is 2,801,108. And that's with something like 6 weeks to go, plus, also according to their explanation of the data, the most recent weeks do not have full reporting. So, at best, it'll probably be another 15-20% or, at worst, a lot more. The same number for all of 2019 from the spreadsheet is 2,852,308.
Rekt.
As I've already mentioned, year-to-year comparisons are impossible.
I just did it.
Corona is a hoax.
A while back, I checked annual death numbers going back to the Washington administration in 1789. What I found is there were a lot of up and down annual variations in the total number of US deaths year to year. Of course, as our population has expanded from 4 million during the 1st revolution (notice I said the first revolution. We haven't had the last yet.) to 328 million today, the total number of deaths have increased. But annual differences of a percent or two is now just statistical noise.
Night Owl, if you have any integrity, now would be a good time to admit that your 2020 number is wrong. Otherwise, post a link to your data source and explain how you obtained the number, and I'll be glad to find your mistake for you.
Funny. You get crickets from Night Owl….
How marvellously fitting.
GreenAlba November 28, 2020 at 5:35 pm #
"I tried to explain this to Alba. This is the same as the mask studies that find masks don't help but end with researchers saying, Well of course we have to continue to wear masks."
The researchers didn't, as far as I saw say 'well of course we have to continue to wear masks'. That's not their call. They're not public health officials.
What they said was
(1) our study has shown that the benefit of wearing a mask to the wearer is statistically insignificant in the event of said wearer being exposed to virus from another person, but
(2) you cannot conclude from our study that masks have no benefit overall because our study does not claim anything, one way or the other, about the benefit of Infected Person A wearing a mask for the protection of non-infected Persons B, C and D, or the minimalisation of their exposure to virus.
That bit's not rocket science. All you need to know is how to read English. Some other study may show what theirs has not shown, but the reason they didn't do such a study is that it's hard to do.
For a start, you would require a thousand or so people you know to be infectious to wander the streets, go into shops, onto buses etc., knowing that they were likely to infect other people, and possibly kill some of them, even if their masks helped them kill fewer people than they might otherwise, or make others less sick than they might otherwise.
Most people would consider that unethical before you even started.
In other words, they're apologizing for revealing truths that contradict the narrative and begging for mercy.
Remember, the test is just a snap shot at a particular moment. A moment later you might be infected. And a moment after that, uninfected again. In order to know, one will have be monitored at all times – chipped in other words. And of course, maasked.
They picked this test because it is wildly inaccurate, a device of terror.
You are right on.
If you created a sample plan for a defect that does not even show up in 40% of the populations, you would find it is impossible. Or 100% of the population would need to be tested every week to detect 100% of the positives.
Testing as a control function is a waste of time and impossible to do. Testing as a diagnostic is fine, especially trying the catch the crud early and treat it early.
Is there an accurate diagnostic test for Covid? How could there be if they haven't even isolated it?
We are dealing with prater-human cunning and evil here, the powers of wickedness in high places. The average person is helpless against people like this. Only the Fascist and National Socialist can deal match these devils, and match them blow for blow.
BTW, I'm not seeing much talk of what's going on in Russia.
Some people on here were praising Putin for getting 'his' (anti-globalist?) vaccine out sooner than anywhere else (primarily by cutting corners in terms of large-scale testing, in order to be 'first').
I haven't seen anyone subsequently criticising the Russian approach, even though it seems to be similar to the 'western' approach, but with more limited safeguards. So how's the Putin Admiration Society going on this matter? And are you monitoring the safety results of their vaccine? And do you trust everything they will publish about the safety record of their vaccine?
Seems to me that wearing a mask now and then that is potentially helping reduce infections and their severity in a limited way should be the very least of anyone's anxieties.
Not in the slightest. Perhaps you think someone forced them, on pain of death, to undertake the study they actually did undertake.
Why don't you write to them and suggest the methodology by which they might prove what you'd like them to prove. I just mentioned the first problem, which is not only practical but ethical.
Even if you surmount that one you have to be able to prove (a) exactly who in your chosen community of randoms has been infected during the period of the experiment (including by the control sample who won't be wearing masks but whom you also know to be infected), (b) which of these subsequently infected people have definitely been infected by your own two experimental groups (both masked and control) and not by some other unknown persons, and (c) what mitigating circumstances were in place for all virus receiving individuals that might have affected their vulnerability to infection by your chosen lurgi-carriers.
You should also bear in mind that even the first study is just one study. Others (scientists) have already pointed out the limitations of their methodology. But the essence of scientific studies purporting to show solid evidence is that they are repeatable. You will recall that several randomised controlled trials with tighter methodology than this have shown certain meds to be ineffective in treating Covid19, yet its fans still believe it works. So I'm not sure if you think RCTs in general are worthwhile or not particularly valid.
"Remember, the test is just a snap shot at a particular moment. A moment later you might be infected."
I agree with that and have pointed it out several times myself.
"In order to know, one will have be monitored at all times – chipped in other words. And of course, maasked."
Well, that fantasy is yours. I don't intend to be wearing a mask once the pandemic dies down and I certainly don't intend to be chipped. Perhaps that's why I don't get as angry as you.
'They' are attempting to improve the accuracy of tests all the time. Not sure why they would do that if the intention was to nurture uncertainty and panic.
I have already said I think much of the community testing is a waste of time – hospital workers absolutely need regular testing, as do care home workers and other groups. I already mentioned that my husband might visit three care homes in one shift. No test is going to make sure that either he or the even more vulnerable people he visits are uninfected before and after each visit. Care home staff are in the same position – many are peripatetic and, like my other half, go to work by bus, so have ample opportunity to pick up the bug.
You do the best you can. Eventually we will achieve partial herd immunity, as we have to other viruses which originally killed more of us. It will likely still be there, but it will affect fewer people as seriously as the years go by. And we will learn about any long-term side effects of the various vaccines (which don't all work in the same way), and find which ones are best and safest for those who wish to take advantage of them.
The test is a fraud, Alba. You are understandably freaked out by the darkness of our would be Masters, and are resisting this understanding.
One minute you may be infected and next minute uninfected. You ignored that part of my post, but it's just as true. The test dredges up everything corona, including dead strands of it, and regular colds. The body is different each second, each moment unique, each machine unique, etc. The positives mean nothing.
Are you planning on taking one of these insanely rushed vaccines? Trump was gloating about how such speed has "never been seen before" – and for good reason.
The test is far from being always accurate. That's not the same as saying it's a fraud. There are reasons why it can't be totally accurate, but 'they' are aiming at more accurate (and faster) tests all the time. That is my understanding.
"One minute you may be infected and next minute uninfected. You ignored that part of my post […].
Do read my post again properly, and you will see that I agreed with you there entirely (and have done so before). I even expanded on it in my penultimate paragraph, with regard to my husband's work. As we have agreed before, he could be tested before entering a care home or a patient's home and be infected by the time he comes out, and before moving on to another care home or patient's home, or returning to base and infecting his colleagues or other patients (although perhaps not immediately?). See also the bit about care home workers. This is the point, I'd have thought.
It is nevertheless not pointless. Hospital workers caring for vulnerable non-Covid patients have to be tested regularly to avoid them killing off their patients. As you have said before yourself, one should not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
"Are you planning on taking one of these insanely rushed vaccines? "
I commented on the vaccine under the previous blog I think.
I genuinely don't know. I have to measure the risk to me personally, since my personal risk if I caught the disease itself is quite high. My husband is at risk on three or four counts (including being male!).
I don't remotely like the idea of a vaccine that is rushed through. I'd prefer to wait a couple of years at least in ideal circumstances, but I don't know what I will decide when I actually get the choice (which won't be for a good number of months anyway – they're starting with front-line health workers and over-80s here as far as I'm aware.
My husband spends a fair amount of time on doctors' blogs. He says the balance of opinion seems to be that, while there may be theoretical risks from the vaccines, they are outweighed, for most people, by the risks of the disease itself. But opinions bounce back and forward, as is the nature of these things. A month ago he said he wasn't going to get it and neither were a lot of doctors. Most doctors are not immunologists, so they have to weigh up the risks the same as everyone else.
The Russians started their vaccination programme before anyone else – you can see how that goes.
If one applies simple reasoning then it's hard to not come to the conclusion that masks must have an impact, if worn properly. They restrict the outflow of droplets and they restrict the inflow of droplets.
Only takes care of a percentage of the transmission problem, I believe airborne will be exposed to be the dominant cause and why the crud will not reduce to zero with mitigation.
Recommendation was sent to Arizona Dept, of Health to lockdown for three weeks. Great! Here is the rub! You mitigate fully and you shut down a portion of the economy. You do not mitigate and you load up the health care system with an explosion of hospitalizations. Absenteeism skyrockets. The economy tanks. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
The reason masks are the entire political issue is that little can be done about the inside ventilation problems. The only answer to the virus air concentration problem is the vaccine.
BTW, I watch the trends on coronavirus "state" statistics daily. Interesting trends, the early surge states have started to level off and some have started to decline over the last 4-5 days.
Janos
"The real work in this regard would be to study the mechanism of the droplets on the surfaces of masks. To my admittedly limited knowledge, no one has studied this."
That's the first one that came up. I haven't delved into any others but I'm sure you can find some if you want to.
Sorry, JohnAZ, that was meant to go under Janos' comment below. Same thing happened with my earlier comment. Gremlins.
If worn properly (a fitted N95), perhaps. But even those so outfitted get it (the virus is smaller than the mesh, and water droplets dry out). More to the point, wearing a fitted N95 mask for hours ever day will cause other health problems.
The virus is smaller than the mesh but the droplets containing the virus aren't – or at least some proportion of them aren't. Any droplets on the surface of the mask are not droplets that would be on the skin of the face.
Utter horse shit. Debunked by Fauci "… it might block a drop or two …" himself.
Only study done on masks to date says masks block no more than 3%.
You know nothing.
Mike: I remind you it's the nature of water to evaporate. As the droplets dry out, what becomes of the virus that was carried by them on the surface of the mask? You don't seem to want to know, your interests being merely political.
I assume the virus once freed of the droplet, is then sucked in by the person on the inbreath, or blown out again, probably then to fall to earth. But it's only a guess. We need research, always challenging with anything this small – if it even exists!
So what do I make of your motives, Janos, given that you asked me this question before and I answered you.
(1) the virus isn't being carried by water, but by your spittle, which contains water but isn't water.
(2) when the mucous or whatever dries out, the virus dies.
I sent you a link to an article, but don't have it now. At the time you were honest enough to say 'ok, one for team mask'.
Do you have a particularly bad memory or are you not honest?
'mucus', sorry.
Here's a relevant article (I've only read the bit it highlighted in answer to my question). I don't know if it's the one I gave you before, but there are others. Just google the question.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200610/Researchers-examine-the-drying-time-of-droplets-from-COVID-19-infected-subjects-on-various-surfaces.aspx#:~:text=Once%20the%20droplets%20carrying%20the,long%20the%20droplets%20remain%20intact.
"Once the droplets carrying the virus evaporate, the residual virus dies quickly, so the survival and transmission of COVID-19 are directly impacted by how long the droplets remain intact."
It doesn't sound like they focus on masks, but it is a start. No doubt they are terrified of finding out too much. Such as once the droplet reduces, the virus can then be breathed in by the subject.
I do remember talking about this before with you. I got annoyed because you conflated two different ideas: that of the water droplet as a vehicle and that of the water droplet as a medium which the virus needed to survive. But this article (you must have sent me a different one that time) assumes the same pov so you may well be correct. And yes, spittle is not water per se, so that's another factor.
See how wonderful it is to use our minds in an exact way!? Now turn your attention to the testing and you will see that I (double the size of I) am right on this one.
My understanding is that there are points regarding testing on which we agree already. And others where we disagree.
I think it's best to choose your fights. So, for example, I don't know why anyone would choose masks as the hill they wish to die on. But people losing their jobs is another matter entirely, especially if aided by such counter-rational notions as 10pm curfews.
"once the droplet reduces, the virus can then be breathed in by the subject"
Is that the droplet which would have been breathed in immediately if the mask wasn't there?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/petition-remove-amber-heard-aquaman-104132683.html
Sign the petition. The corrupt courts allowed Amber Heard to destroy Johnny Depp. Now the People must punish her since the courts have failed.
Genius IS as Genius DOES….
http://www.got-truth.com/docs/Genius%20IS%20as%20Genius%20DOES.pdf
Thanksgiving Day, in Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis and Chicago, monuments of Grant, Washington, Lincoln and McKinley monuments destroyed, plus Mexican and Spanish America war memorials vandalized, in addition to a Pioneer Statue (in Minneapolis) toppled. It appears to be an orchestrated and organized BLM/Antifa aktion. It even has it's own catchy slogan: "F##k Thanksgiving, F##k America". Pretty slick, huh?
You have presented CFN with a preventive elixir for the Crud, and so far, it works fine.
Have you got another elixir as a preventative against infection from the Antifa/BLM crud?
Remember when the media used to have a general policy of not giving airtime to terrorists? Those were the days.
If we could just ignore these jackasses they would go get their job back at Subway and be done with this stupidity.
Real concern now is that Trump is bringing the Republican party down with him. I look at it differently.
I see a Constitutionalist party emerging between now and 2024. It will be based on a strict interpretation of the Constitution and its amendments. SCOTUS will take on new meaning because every lawsuit in the US will end up there. Those bastards will be quite overworked. Should be a real humdinger.
Meanwhile, Repubs will bitch and moan for 4 years that they've been cheated. Get in your happy place, whatever it involves.
Dems will continue to be dems…yawn.
G'nite, Kim. Got my jammies on and I'm hunkering down in the (not quite yet) frozen northland.
Trump will be President until January 2025.
I would hope for the following on his agenda:
1. A change to the Constitution to set the Supreme Court membership permanently at nine, so it is forever free from the threat of packing.
2. A vigorous effort to ban or eliminate electronic voting throughout the country along with other important changes to voting rules, perhaps including banning mail-in with certain exceptions and voter ID and maintaining an auditable trail of paper ballots.
3. Section 230 amended to ensure that it applies only to genuine, hands-free internet billboards. No curation.
4. Special Prosecutor to investgate the conduct of the 2020 elections and bring appropriate charges
5. End all HB programs
6. The application of anti-Trust law to big tech.
7. Defunding of all educational institutions that use anti-American teaching materials
8. End Fed government support for educational institutions with large endowments. All funding on a needs-and-importance basis and only to institutes solely devoted to science, medicine and technology
9. End Federal support for educational loans
10. Declare any future eductional loans to be subject to bankruptcy law
11. Continue to enforce price transparency and competition in the US medical industry
12. Ending 501 3C protections for religious and charity groups and philanthropic (political) groups like the Ford Foundation and Tides. This is just fraud central.
13. Declaration of Antifa and BLM as domestic terrorist organizations
14. Clean out the DOJ
15. Shut down the FBI and replace it with a new organization
16. Shut down the CIA
17. End dual citizenship
18. End "birthright" citizenship
19. More limitations of foreign companies, ep. China, to US tech
20. No more Chinese studying in the USA
21. Making it illegal for US companies to enter into technology-transfer-for-market- access agreements with foreign countries. These are in any case clearly against WTO rules.
22. Making it illegal for US pensions to invest in Chinese companies with connections to the CCP or PLA
23. Punishments for countries that allow re-labeling of China products for the USA market
24. Branding of countries that allow the export of narcotics to the USA as terrorist nations. This includes China with fentanyl and of course Mexico. Borders closed until the drug flow ends.
25. Rebuilding US industry and small and medium business. The actions to be taken against China and the Mexican narco-state will assist in this as it will require import replacement.
26. Break up Big Pharma, Big Ag, Wall Street with anti-Trust actions.
27. Legislate that the USG, banks and businesses will always ensure that the economy has a sufficient supply of money in the forms of notes and coins
28. Make it illegal for any place of business to refuse to accept cash payment, including internet busineses, which must also permit payment by non-electronic means (e.g., money orders)
29. End the "Amazon subsidy" of cheap mail rates for Chinese to import goods to the USA
https://reason.com/2019/11/11/american-taxpayers-are-subsidizing-ultra-cheap-shipping-from-china/
Trump may already have this last item in the pipeline.
I might also add,
30. Leave the United Nations and all other globalist bodies, e.g., WTO, IMF, World Bank, etc.
31. I would also like to see some policies to increase resilience of the energy sector and daily human life in the face of inevitable de-growth.
But I don't want to scare the horse, and in any case, the best way to take the edge off de-growth will be by an America First approach.
There will be de-growth. Everything will become more local and localism will accelerate. To leave this process in the hands of non-American or unAmericans would be suicidal.
Fortress America. Regroup around our own people and their best interests and watch the rest of the world die.
30: a. Give the United Nations 30 days to get off our sacred soil. It all comes down to blood and soil and the valuation thereof.
You're being too generous. I'd give the UN 15 days to get out. Tough shit if they can't get it together fast enough. When the 15 days are up, we can confiscate whatever is left behind. I'd also massively increase security in and around the building to insure that angry people don't wreck the place.
End the "Amazon subsidy" of cheap mail rates for Chinese to import goods to the USA – Kim
Whatever happened to the word export?
And, in the same vein, whatever happened to the word emigrate?
In my tiny mind one imports from and exports to. One immigrates from and emigrates to.
"One immigrates from and emigrates to."
Depends on where you are when you say it! Same with outflow and inflow of e.g. water – the same water can be both, depending on where you're standing.
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/emigrate-immigrate/#:~:text=Emigrate%20means%20to%20leave%20one,moving%20into%20a%20new%20country.
Russian emigrés were people who left Russia, regardless of where they ended up. Russian immigrants are people who now live in your country (whichever country it is).
It just depends on which side of the fence you're standing when you say it, I suppose. If you're still in Russia, you're about to emigrate from Russia (AND to somewhere else). Once you've arrived, you've already emigrated from Russia and immigrated to your new country.
There is no conflict between what you have just said and the comment I wrote which prompted it.
Good, we're both happy. 🙂
Further to that, it is entirely possible for a competent writer to say, creatively,
"The Indians *were emigrated from* their wigwam-dotted valleys with little resistance."
Of course, is it not impossible to form the passive with *emigrate* as it is an intransitive verb?
Qshit might say so – if he were able to.
But I just did it.
And such a statement, dripping with irony, would of course be rightly thought of as demonstrating an advanced English competence.
But then an idiot like Qshit would think himself qualified to quibble and correct me.
Tedious to see this peabrain taken seriously.
Again the watchman arrests himself.
What a clown you are.
It is Chinese people – who might be physically located anywhere in this story – who are importing fentanyl into the USA.
This is the perspective I wanted the reader to see.
It may be that we could – with a different focus – tell the story as "China" exporting fentanyl, but I chose not to tell the story from that perspective because I wanted the US-based reader to see – from his perspective – the invasive quality of the importation.
Do you understand this? This is the kind of choice writers make all the time. This is the kind of thing that makes a piece of writing engaging and persuasive. But you are apparently dead to such subtleties.
Truly, you provide a classic example of Dunning-Kruger, someone who knows nothing who gets hold of one or two facts and then thinks he is a master of a topic.
Pls go away.
Excuse me, I should say "goods" rather than "fentanyl".
But to clarify, can a Chinese person located in LA not import goods into/to the USA?
How then, does one express this concept?
FreddieMars December 1, 2020 at 2:34 pm #
You are neither engaging nor persuasive. You are haughty and condescending, are far too quick to reach for an insult where one is neither useful or required.
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/11/28/best-video-summary-of-the-fraudulent-pcr-tests-ive-yet-seen/
The guy featured seems to think the pcr could be a valid diagnostic tool if used at 25 cycles. The creator of the test didn't want it used at all in this way. As a layman, I have no idea who is right. He seems to be exasperated at the turn of events, still imagining it's all some kind of mistake by the Elite. No mistake. It's a vicious campaign of terror as Barnhardt notes.
It's being used as high as 45 cycles, picking up everything. A clip of Fauci is shown where he states anything above 35 is meaningless. Different machines also matter in terms of the appropriate cycle to use, apparently. With good will, maybe all this could be useful. But without good will, it would be better if this technology didn't exist.
McKinsey & Company is deeply imbedded in the Biden campaign and is beholden to globalist billionaire oligarchs just the same They really do take that whole "profits at all costs" thing to a new level. But should it come as any surprise that a soulless, amoral, nihilistic society would allow psychopaths and predators to rise to the top?
https://www.rt.com/usa/508095-mckinsey-oxycontin-overdose-rebates/
P.S. McKinsey & Company advised many government entitities including the state of New York on covid-19 pandemic responses..
TBH, this is what all consulting companies do. The party at fault is Purdue and/or the Sacklers. They hire companies like McK, etc., and tell them what they want to do. The consultancy gets paid based on whether it produces.
I agree about the moral element, but this literally happens every day. Wait until that hyper-rushed Coroneau vaccine hits the market. There will be a lot of blame to go around, but will the right people get it?
One other note, given that the NYT and Fake Nooz are all piling on McK, I wonder how they are connected to Purdue and the Sacklers.
They also circled the wagons for Bernie Madoff.
Hollywood made a movie about Madoff, played by de Niro, NOT called The Filthy Scheming Sack of Pigshit That Defrauded Millions and Ruined Their Lives but rather The Wizard of Lies.
Not "The Puke of Lies", the "Wizard".
And the movie is almost a hagiography. The emphasis of the story is not on his limitless greed, unscrupulousness and evil, but on Madoff's humanity, and that Madoff was a genius and his downfall a tragedy…for him and his family. The people he hurt have no place in the story.
The movie is directed by Barry Levinson and written by Sam Levinson, Sam Baum and John Schwartz
Imagine the gall, or should I say the chutzpah?
Sean Coleman November 29, 2020 at 10:31 am #
I never realized Bernie was one. So much to learn!
I had forgotten about that!
Ah that is an interesting question. I'm not sure about the media connections but for instance in the past the Sackler family made donations to office holders and candidates in both parties, as well as, to many non profits and universities. So there probably is a connection with the mainstream news media somewhere.
I just learned two new things.
1. Pennsylvania SC is 5D 2R.
2. Penn SC is elected, not appointed.
michael November 29, 2020 at 7:23 am #
There is really no hope at all. A large part of the population are obscenely weak minded and easy prey to sophisticated manipulation techniques that have been in development for the better of 100 years with enormous sums and effort invested.
These people are less free as a dog on the leash which at least now and then tries to chew it off.
But if you cannot see the leash and don't know it's there you can't and won't do anything about it. In this last step of conditioning the the people are unmoored from all traditions, boundaries, principles of logic and reason and thrown into a white noise of of confusion so that they can be treated like particles in a gas with the methods of statistical mechanics.
In this theory we do not give a damn about the individual particle but only about macroscopic properties of the system obtained after coarse graining.
Really why would you care about particles dumb enough to play play games like "Pokemon Go" (revenue 1 billion per year) even if such particles attend a "university".
1.I should care because every particle alone is weak. I do not wish to be weak and enslaved.
Thus I seek to bond. And because it is the most natural thing of all for humans to bond, especally with their own people, I can be optimistic that Fate and changing days might bring me success.
2. I should care because in other countries, in even in what were formerly our own countries, other peoples who do not wish us well, other particles, are bonded together against us already. We particles thus have to bond together to preserve ourselves.
Fortunately, humans have their own "social physics" that drives us to bond with other human particles with which we may have affinities, affinities that are natural and eternal as well as – in their own season – affinities that are merely political and temporary.
So I say, don't hold yourself back from your desire to bond with other particles. It is natural, good, and in any case your destiny.
Cincinnatus said likewise to the ancient Romans. Holding up a stick or fasces, he snapped it. Making a small bundle of sticks, he was unable to snap them once held or tied together. Thus the philosophy of Fascism was born.
In defence of people it is hard to see the 'leash'. I place a lot of ofaith in our host's "independent, entrepreneurial investigators", without the insights of whom I would be still in the dark about most things. A few people for some reason are naturally sceptical about things that others take for granted.
I believe that we are living in an extraordinarily powerful collective fantasy, a term I borrowed from the late Richard Webster, who took an interest in moral panics, in particular 'children's' homes and paedophile witch hunts. In an excellent essay about the nature of investigative jounrnalism he showed how it had from the very beginning ( with the Vicorian editor WT Stead of the Northern Star and Pall Mall Gazette – from memory) was driven by an idealistic wish to change the world rather than to establish the truth.
The difficulty people have is in getting reliable basic information. If the data is corrupt or withheld, from temperature measurements to black on white crime, to the corona virus, then it is very hard to work out what is happening. It is a big step to the conclusion that it is all fantasy.
Just be aware of not giving too much weight to people here's opinions (including my own). I know you know better, but I feel I'm being remiss if I didn't mention it.
"In defence of people it is hard to see the 'leash' " –Sean Coleman
I disagree. Or, I should clarify, I agree they don't see the leash, but there's no defence for it.
It's true that we're living in a hyper-accelerated blitz of conflicting opinions, hysterical takes, solipsistic weasels, and hidden half-facts about our collective, contemporary political and cultural realities. It was a lot more clear and simple, in this regard, during, say, late 1800s England, where you lived in the same place your forebears had lived the past 300 years, you knew all your neighbours and what they thought and how they lived, you shared loyalties and traditions, and very few 'foreigners' ventured into your town, and, if they did, were scrutinized and often made fun of.
But those people also didn't have any info on outside forces, i.e. the compounding effects of one new, encroaching, wealthy landowner. They didn't know his dealings, his plans, or how to counter any challenge to their community with any effective political force. And when times got tough … well, the relentlessly grubby wars of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries come to mind. Peasants went to war because it was the only way they could be fed. They switched allegiances routinely in order to maintain their rations, based on which way the wind was blowing. (Both sides often holed up and took pot shots at each other in a kind of grimly amusing game of 'let's pretend to fight', for long periods.)
To be quicker about this, back then, the deplorables knew little about the men behind the curtain. But with the advent of gathering — and eventually widespread — literacy in the Western world, those interested could read history and current events, and, now, with the explosion of the internet and more sophisticated takes on all angles of governmental evil, there's no excuse for people now to not see "the leash". Again, it's more difficult, yes, because of the equally astonishing sophistication of confidence men and Deep State apparatus, but those villains can get, and are getting, exposed, if only more people turned off Fortnite (or however you spell it), the NFL, and Anderson Cooper.
But there's a deeper problem which explains why even knowledge isn't enough, and it's why the at-it's-face laughably ridiculous Woke screeds are taken seriously by a large minority of duped, 'educated', credulous slaves. I've already mentioned confidence men. They know that humans have a deep-seated aversion to ambiguity and complexity. People demand answers, and almost always those answers have to be flattering, beneficial, optimistic, idealistic.There are plenty of forces willing to give it to them (Communists, unfettered Capitalists, religious quackery, short-term hedonism, etc). Nietzsche: "People don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed."
The real Revolution is internal.
"and very few 'foreigners' ventured into your town, and, if they did, were scrutinized and often made fun of."
Or worse. 🙂
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_hanger
Christopher Booker, who died last year, wrote an extraordinarily precocious book to explain the equally extraordinary Swinging Sixties in England, The Neophiliacs (1969). He says the explanation came to him only after he had started his book chronicling the political and culturals events of that decade. He used a five-stage 'fantasy cycle', apparently of his own devising. From memory the five stages are: fantasy finding its focus; dream, frustration; nightmare; and death wish. This is followed by it fading back into reality or a new dream finding its focus.
Well, this cycle (if it is a cycle: I am sceptical) has never faded back into reality but has repeated over and over since then, deepening all the time. He saw two great cycles spanning 1956 to 1968; the first one ended in the momentous year 1963. Booker saw it all somehow hinging on 1963. Peter Hitchens chooses 1964.
He mentions Johnny Speight a couple of times. He wrote the hilarious British sit-com Till Death Do Us Part, whose central character Alf Garnett (I think he was the model for Archie Bunker) was a raving "working class Tory", who raved against progressive ideas and venerated the Queen. It was very funny. I recall it starting when I was about 8 years of age (so 1966) but that is hazy. He was the first to swear regularly on the telly; he was fond of the word 'bloody'. Alf was often in heated argument with his long-haired layabout of a son-in-law, a Liverpudlian Socialist, played by Tony Blair's future father-in-law.
Booker wrote that Speight was Jewish and a zealous radical.
the the people are unmoored
a white noise of of confusion
dumb enough to play play games – michael
Is there a name for this affliction? Perhaps two times is better than one syndrome?
I am reading everyones's opinion about Trump vs. Biden, aka Trump vs. the Deep State.
My anger is not directed at the mechanisms of the election. It is aimed at the quality ofbthe American people.
Think about the bottom line here. A plus or minus 5% situation is not the big issue. It is the fact that 50% of the American people have turned into gimme with their hands out saying "government, take care of me". The stagflation that is coming is well deserved. Biden is going to inherit the 21st century Great Depression, just like Roosevelt did the 20th. The downturn coming is being caused by the American gimme philosophy, the shanghaied public. What the Dems are going to find out is that their constituency do not care about GND, or BLM. They want their handouts. When the Dems ask for sacrifice to change fossil fuels usage, the public is going to rebel as their goodies are taken away.
This public is going to rue the day they elected in this uniparty predecessor to the dictatorial Deep State that is coming. Or then again, the decline of the US population may just not give a damn.
The most interesting question is what happens to the folks that do give a damn, that believe in individual responsibility instead of government control? The philosophical divide is too wide to just get along.
Is this book any good?
"Slavery" is a product of "Energy", the absence of fossil fuels and machinery in pre-industrial, agricultural societies, right?
Energy and Civilization: A History
@ Pucker
Yes, a good book. Very statistical but that provides lots of perspective on the ties of energy and civilization (as title suggests).
It should be obvious, but it is to only very few.
SvrzoH November 29, 2020 at 11:30 pm #
Also other way around. Romans had known basic principles how to employ steam power but did not go further into developing the machinery because of abundance of slave power.
Pucker November 29, 2020 at 12:22 pm #
http://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2020/11/28/the-great-reset-the-final-assault-on-the-living-planet-its-not-a-social-dilemma-its-the-calculated-destruction-of-the-social-part-iii/
The happenings in 2020 have resulted in my not trusting anyone outside of my closest friends and my family, nor anything anyone else claims or says. I only skim the news now. It's a sad (but necessary, IMO) place to be. I dislike the considerable increase in my cynicism. I've become a spiritual resident of Missouri.
I suppose I'm angry at people for allowing such a situation.
The triumph of ideology and faction. The classic study is Julien Benda's "Treason of the Intellectuals".
The Amazon review:
Julien Benda's classic study of 1920s Europe resonates today. The "treason of the intellectuals" is a phrase that evokes much but is inherently ambiguous. The book bearing this title is well known but little understood. This edition is introduced by Roger Kimball.
From the time of the pre-Socratics, intellectuals were a breed apart. They were non-materialistic knowledge-seekers who believed in a universal humanism and represented a cornerstone of civilized society. According to Benda, this all began to change in the early twentieth century. In Europe in the 1920s, intellectuals began abandoning their attachment to traditional philosophical and scholarly ideals, and instead glorified particularisms and moral relativism.
The "treason" of which Benda writes is the betrayal by the intellectuals of their unique vocation. He criticizes European intellectuals for allowing political commitment to insinuate itself into their understanding of the intellectual vocation, ushering the world into "the age of the intellectual organization of political hatreds." From the savage flowering of ethnic and religious hatreds in the Middle East and throughout Europe today to the mendacious demand for political correctness and multiculturalism on college campuses everywhere in the West, the treason of the intellectuals continues to play out its unedifying drama.
I haven't read it, only heard about it. As Sean said, there's so much to learn. I'm wondering if he got around to advertising. Everything now is "sold" to us. All propaganda is salesmanship of a kind, but the modern form is more personal and focused on creaturely comforts and feelings.
That means its time to go back to our roots. Our current society seems to be all about tossing out the things you know for things you don't know. Our deepest traditions and primordial instincts tell us that there is very good reason to distrust outsiders and strangers but our supposed modern rationality tell us to bring as many strangers and outsiders into our home as possible until our home becomes their home. Our deepest traditions and primordial instincts tell us that family and tribe come first but modern rationality tells us that family and tribe are simply fabrications. And on and on…. So yes, we should be angry with those in power that led us to this place. But it appears that we must also be angry at ourselves for allowing deceivers and devils to sway us away from truth.
I'm also curious as to why a seeming flood of antipodal commenters has been operating on this website. Freedom of speech aside, why would an Australian or New Zealander care enough about the US to spend considerable time posting here? Also, if they really cared about us, why would their comments be so consistently negative? Makes no sense. And don't make the rather facile claim that they like to stir things up. Unfortunately, the only rather obvious explanation is that you guys are paid operatives.
BTW, I give a pass to the Canadian posters here because they're practically Americans, and what happens in the US affects them the most.
Yes, weird. Majella thought it bizarre that I would think it bizarre that she would know about Judge Jeannine Pirro. But we may be wrong: Apparently America really is capitol of the world, and they hate us for being it but not being worthy to be it. There's some truth in that obviously.
Majella lives in the US. Why would she not know Jeannine Pirro?
I, on the other hand, have just had to look her up.
Why is she here? To cause trouble? Another undesirable alien?
I think her husband is American. So perhaps she has something in common with Melania Trump, except that I think she said they planned to retire to NZ.
My other half is Irish. he's not an undesirable alien either. 🙂
And brh's wife is Spanish. It happens. The pull of the exotic!
Majella seems to have disappeared. Cargill is a special case, showing up with a different handle every day or so. That dude's agenda was never really clear to me.
Night Owl (her most special friend) believes she is now Freddie Mars. I too think that the evil has come again, that the so called Necromancer is actually Sauron himself in a new form.
She has returned in an emotionally hardened form (but no doubt physically gelatinous as ever) from being steamrolled on a regular basis and ultimately banned for trolling.
German is still really bad tho, and IQ has not improved.
Two posts in response.
The Jello quivers.
When FreddieMars is mentioned, FreddieMars responds, laughing in your face, you shameless troll.
Pro tip: Freddie Mars is Jello, and was banned for trolling.
Why so emotional?
Far from the only thing Night Owl gets wrong, yet proclaims like gospel.
I have usually found one or two Aussies or Kiwis on blogs and occasionally among YouTube comments. They are usually forthright with their opinions. I suspect this blog is plagued by one or two posters using multiple identities and that such people have mental health problems. Why pay them if they are willing to do it for free? They enjoy deceiving others. A sign of this happening is that they generally avoid engaging at length because that would mean they would have to reveal more about themselves and they would not be able to get into character enough to carry it off. Thanks for your comment above. I am not sure what exactly, or whom, you have in mind but I will keep my eyes open.
@ beantownhill
Why Antipodeans comment here or are concerned about US elections?
For me it is easy. Bcs shit runs downhill and bcs if Trump loses, globalism wins and that has direct and severe outcomes on my life.
So I fight the propaganda by adding my own pathetic mite.
Covid alert!
Just looked at trends of new cases. The MSM and Dem alerts are full of BS.
All the states that surged in early October, the northern tier and Midwest are now either leveled off or significantly into a downturn, an anti-surge.
What has happened? Have they all mitigated to the point that it is affecting the stats? Have they all gone to virtual school? What is different now for the last week or so?
This is the real function of the CDC and NIH, to figure this out. Where are they? Why hasn't Fauci and Birx come out with this info? If no one has done anything in these states to stem the tide, why are they going down? Last but not least, why are these states going down and southern states are still going up?
Just askin'.
The testing is fraudulent. They are making these emergencies out of nothing. They have that power now. They create reality for people instead of reality creating subjective reality for people.
Yes, and just imagine how much more power the technocrats will gain over the population and the production of "reality" if they realize their dream of implanting chips in people that control brainwaves and the central nervous system. There really is no apparent bounds on what they can do at that point it would seem.
Yes. And if not complete control immediately, then pleasure and punishment in the meantime.
Some hospitals are becoming overwhelmed. Seems like an emergency to me. For example, a quick search found this: https://www.deccanchronicle.com/world/america/191120/us-hospitals-overwhelmed-as-covid-19-deaths-top-250000-in-the-country.html
I don't know why some people continue to pretend that this is all a hoax or fraud. Maybe because they don't like what's happening and prefer the equivalent of sticking their heads in the sand, or covering their ears and shouting "LA, LA, LA".
The Deccan Chronicle?
Do you get it delivered direct to your door there in Bangalore, "Mike"?
@kim re your 1:21 am post:
1. A constitutional change needs to be voted on by individual states, with I believe 37 positive votes, or if I'm wrong, a majority of states. That is a major undertaking and not so easy to accomplish.
2-5., 7-10. I agree.
6. I agree, but this is a very important action. Break up these motherfuckers, they are way too big and powerful – illegally as well. Jail the executive officers.
11. The medical and big pharma industries are not fair and are ripping off Americans big-time. Make extensive changes.
12-16. I agree
17. How can I agree considering I'm automatically a citizen of Israel (I think). I have no power in this. The best you can do is make automatic dual citizens of any country sign a loyalty statement. I'm an American and intend to stay that way.
20. Maybe an alternative is to allow Chinese students to study here if they agree to remain in the US for say, 10 years after graduation, and not be allowed any financial assistance from China. Also have them sign an agreement they will not give China any info on their work under penalty of at least 20 years imprisonment, no parole. Why not put their high competence to use here? Besides, I don't think very many, if at all, would agree to these terms. But at least they would have a choice.
21-23 I agree.
24. It would be far more effective to just legalize all drugs. Bye-bye drug cartels.
The rest: I agree.
32. Do whatever is necessary to institute term limits. Does this require a constitutional amendment?
The common argument that drugs should simply be legalized and the rationale for that are never clearly stated. But allow me to make some related points addressed to common thinking in this area.
1. The assumption is that drug activity is market driven…that is, that drug dealers sell drugs bcs the price is high and the price is high bcs drugs are illegal.
But this is not true for a number of reasons. First, drugs are not in fact an expensive boutique product. A person can get smoked with meth, crack, or heroin much cheaper than he can with a night on the grog. Much cheaper.
Drugs are already very cheap in the USA and the illegal drug industry is run as a volume business.
The price of illegal drugs in the USA is driven by demand, not supply, because the supply is already very great. In any case, making even more drugs available even cheaper would not drive the drug dealers out of business. It would in fact allow them to expand their market even more as it would remove a vast number of overheads.
2. China does not export fentanyl to the United States in order to make a profit. She does it to destroy America.
Will we allow China to freely import and distribute fentanyl?
Really? While – out of some supposed abundance of caution – people have to eat with a mask on in a restaurant? Absurd.
3. People do not steal, commit all kinds of crimes, and prostitute themselves bcs they need money to buy expensive drugs. Drugs are cheap.
No, people only "cannot afford" drugs bcs a drug addict cannot hold down a job. Once an addict can no longer manage to go to his/her job as a repairman/legal secretary, the addict will steal from petty cash, sell stolen goods, deal, or prostitute him or herself.
The price of drugs is not a causative factor at any point in the drug addiction story. No more than it is a factor with alcohol addiction.
Drugs cause crime. Why? Bcs drugs destroy lives, families and communities and make people incapable of work, study, and productive lives in any sense. Drug addicts can't even look after tgemselves or their own children. Everything is too expensive to a drug addict.
Drugs create poverty bcs they destroy people.
Meth, they say, can entirely addict a person inside a week. After that, that person's life as a self respecting human being is finished.
If drugs are legalized, would meth production disappear? No. Absolutely not. The idea is absurd. Tgere wpuld still be a mzrket for meyh, right.
For godsake, Purdue would start marketing it,
You could buy a Christnas gift crack pipe at Walmart! What kind of insanity is this?
4. What does "legalization" even mean? Could I have a meth lab on my property? Could I offer my meth for sale to anyone? To minors?
Could I import tar heroin and get it refined at a specialty store at the mall?
Could I offer meth or cocaine, ecstacy, meth, crack, heroin, fentanyl to young girls to "party" with me, or could I addict them so that I could prostitute them? That is how girls are kept in line currently.
5. We have no choice but to maintain the ban on the sake and production of addictive drugs.
These drugs are massively addictive and destructive. They are cheap to make. They are profitable even at very low prices.
6. We have to deal with the problem at the international level. Mexico is a completely failed and criminal narco -state. Not just otpits drugs, but its corruption and its failed society are scourges that cross the border and infect the USA.
For her part, China is a sworn enemy of the USA, dedicated to her destruction. Of course she would support the freedom to import even more fentanyl. She would put a drum of it with a dipper cup on every street corner!
Mexico can be saved, her people saved, and Mexico brought back to the rule of law only by deconstructing her cartels, who have the Presidency of Mexico since at least the 1970s.
This can only be done by entirely closing off all trade with Mexico or via Mexico. Her oligarchs must be forced to destroy the cartels. The same applies for other narco states. Because their drug trade always operates under the cover of legitimate trade.
There should be no more legitmate trade with Mexico as long as her government is in the hands of the cartels.
I would guess that an embargo of no more than six months would see the end of the Mexican cartels.
Anyway, as you can see, the entire idea of "legalization", – whatever that might mean – is entirely absurd and based on all kinds of notions that are simply wrong.
I should observe too that approach to killing off the Mexican cartels – closing off trade for six months or longer – is not even a poofteenth as draconian as 1000 other measures that the USA has taken to fight the oh-so-deadly rona virus.
Unfortunately, however, the same Deep State hat DJT has been fighting is also deepky tied in with the cartels and the international drug trade.
And they are perfectly happy to see a damaged, stupified and addicted US populace.
Pls excuse my typos.
I could argue my case more, but we have a difference of opinion, so we should just agree to disagree. My opinion is based on philosophy, not the market. I just don't think anyone should tell anyone else what they can or cannot put in their body. We have this false "war on drugs" policy which is a joke and has cost us billions.
Anyway, I don't want to fly to Indonesia to have a beer and discuss this. Besides, I'm Jewish, and I hear Jews can be unwelcome there (not that I care).
1. Fine with me. Just an exchange of ideas. Not that it matters to you, but I am always happy to share ideas with you. You are sincere and not a troll, and that is all that matters.
2. The trouble with the war on drugs is that it has been run by the CIA and all of the casulaties are of the side of the good guys.
There should be death sentences for drug dealers. After all, they are engaged in premeditated murder.
3. There is no problem with individual jews in Indonesia that I am aware of, if you come in on a US passport.
It is true they will not accept an Israeli passport.
So, ahem, in an interview with WVW TV, General Flynn and Lt. General McInerney confirm that the server recovered that is tied to the election fraud/Hammer and Scorecard was not only recovered in Frankfurt, it was recovered from a CIA server farm by US special forces, and five people died in the raid.
https://creativedestructionmedia.com/analysis/2020/11/28/report-lt-gen-mcinerney-reports-us-special-forces-attacked-cia-server-farm-in-germany-in-server-seizure-operation-5-soldiers-killed-servers-secured/
https://www.worldviewweekend.com/tv/video/wvw-tv-exclusive-lt-general-michael-flynns-first-interview-president-trumps-pardon
"In stunning testimony, McInerney stated his sources have told him U.S. Army Special Forces, possibly the famed Delta Force, raided the CIA-run server farm in Frankfurt, Germany.
5 soldiers were killed in the ensuing firefight, as well as one CIA paramilitary; the CIA personnel were allegedly flown in from Afghanistan for security, according to related news reports."
Phew! This is as deep as it gets.
Why would China, Iran and Russia get involved?
1. I don't give much credence to this McInerney guy. I like Gen Flynn but a lot these ex-mil guys are weirdoes. Even senior ones.
2. @ SC
Do you mean why would they get involved in the US elections?
Yes, would the Dems point the finger at them so as to get off the hook themselves? Would those countries prefer Biden to Trump?
John1945 November 29, 2020 at 6:29 pm #
@Night Owl
=5 soldiers were killed in the ensuing firefight, as well as one CIA paramilitary= 🙂
My Faith in CIA is restored.
Wo der CIA Soldat steht,da steht er,und keine Macht der Welt wird Ihn dort wieder vertrieben !!!
Now it is time for a story about CIA SAC (Special Activities Center) Candidate Selection Procedure.Wich will explain this 5:1 score.
Pardon my French,gentlemen,it sounds better in French.Just like plays of Shakespeare in Christian Friedrich Hebbel translation.
Eignungsprüfung bei der CIA SAC:
Prüfer: "Kandidat Nr. 1, in dem Raum hinter der Tür dort sitzt ihre langjährige Freundin gefesselt auf einem Stuhl. Nehmen Sie diesen Revolver und erschießen Sie sie!"
Kandidat Nr. 1 nimmt den Revolver und geht in den Raum. Eine Weile passiert nichts, dann kommt Kandidat Nr. 1 aus dem Raum, gibt den Revolver zurück und sagt: "Tut mir leid, aber das kann ich nicht tun."
Prüfer: "Kandidat Nr. 2, in dem Raum hinter der Tür dort sitzt ihre Verlobte, die Sie demnächst heiraten wollen, gefesselt auf einem Stuhl. Nehmen Sie diesen Revolver und erschießen Sie sie!"
Prüfer: "Kandidat Nr. 3, in dem Raum hinter der Tür dort sitzt ihre Ehefrau, mit der Sie seit 5 Jahren verheiratet sind, gefesselt auf einem Stuhl. Nehmen Sie diesen Revolver und erschießen Sie sie!"
Kandidat Nr. 3 nimmt den Revolver und geht in den Raum. Man hört 6 Schüsse, Flüche und lautes Poltern, dann kommt Kandidat Nr. 3 aus dem Raum, in einer Hand den Revolver, in der anderen ein abgebrochenes Stuhlbein. Er wirft beides wütend auf den Tisch vor dem Prüfer und sagt: "Irgend so ein Idiot hat den Revolver mit Platzpatronen geladen, da musste ich sie mit dem Stuhl erschlagen."
…speak American, goddamnit!
It is my irrational exuberance which peters out with years but still shows occasionally 🙂
Also,it is more than just a very funny and very old spy joke,it is a joke template.Depending on who you are talking to you may replace "CIA" with "KGB"," Mossad", "SDECE" etc
Well,elysianfield,if you are allergic to foreign languages-Google Translate to the rescue:
https://translate.google.com/
"[…]McInerney stated his sources have told him U.S. Army Special Forces, possibly the famed Delta Force, raided the CIA-run server farm in Frankfurt, Germany.
5 soldiers were killed in the ensuing firefight…"
This retired Lt. General "stated his sources have told him", & "possibly the famed Delta Force"…so it's just hearsay, aside from being highly unlikely.
You call everything you don't like "Fake Nooz" yet you constantly peddle this sort of tripe.
"WVW TV Network, bringing you the world through the lens of a biblical worldview". LOL!
What about it is tripe, Jello?
It is a claim from a high ranking military officer.
Do provide us with your detailed proof that the story is not real.
Another day, another own goal.
If you can't see it's tripe, you'll consume it, like any good little gas-lit conspiracist. You'll "spread the word" of the world as seen through your distorted lens, like any evangelical convert.
While you're at it, please do provide us with your detailed proof that I am some banned poster you refer to as 'Jello'.
Ti- foil queen Jello.
Regale us once more with tales of The Manchurian Candidate and the coming White Ethnostate.
What happened to all that proof you promised?
Just as I thought – nothing. Speculate away, troll.
Also deep, cloak and dagger deep, the assassination of Iran's top nuclear scientist … inside Iran.
Hey Kim…been to 38th and Chicago, where all this shit began?
I didn't think so. G'nite, son.
But didn't it really start long before that Tom?
Garden of Eden. That's where it started.
tom clark November 29, 2020 at 10:21 pm #
SSL…it did…so what are you going to do about it to make America better? A conspiracy theory is a perfect solution to an impossible situation. Argue for it and you're either a fool or labelled as one. Argue against it and the outcome's the same. So why bother? It's a waste of time and energy. Live the life you have a day at a time or end it. Simple as that.
"It is amazing how New Zealand has suddenly become a target for the shit heads of conservatism just because we have a leader most of the country vaguely likes and respects and we succeeded in defeating the virus where the U.S./Trump failed. There is such a thing as an implicit social contract in the cultural fabric of a nation which is the real protection of civil liberties, and civil discourse … I for one would take the cultural, legal and political status quo in New Zealand at the moment over that of the U.S. any day of the week. And something about your tone, its just wrong, mate. So in my most sincere and polite internet voice, kindly fuck off troglodyte" — cowboy14
Your "implicit social contract" (and ours in Canada, as well as in other parliamentary systems) is worth jack once the shit hits the fan and WWIII or IV is on, with China paying you a visit. Your active army of 9K would put up a heroic fight for about six seconds against two million Chinese ground troops. Oh, but there's another option! Who ya gonna call?
In Canada, we have a prime minister who flouts the legal contract at every opportunity. He actually set in motion a process whereby every journalist would have to be certified for better and more effective governmental means of 'monitoring content'.
Your implicit contract, your cultural agreement is well and good between you and your homogeneous neighbour, but a parliamentary gov't can give zero power to members of parliament (even prominent ones, not just backbenchers), and instead rely on a tight, closed-room discussion with a few cabinet ministers. So much for your democracy and gov't accountability.
And, of course, you live in a country with a population of 5 million. Not hard to govern. There are many CITIES in North America with more people. Maybe your prime minister should be called a mayor instead.
Your sign-off comment is hilarious in light of your chest-thrusting "civil discourse".
To repeat from above:
In New Zealand, Australia, Canada, Britain, all of them parliamentary systems, there is
Note that if the government can take away these rights, even temporarily – as in this "pandemic" – then they are not rights. They are merely occasional permissions.
Dinesh D'Souza nails it in his critique of the popular Netflix series, "The Queen's Gambit", about a champion chess master, pointing out that it's fantasy. He rightly mentions the Bell Curve, which graphs the fact that geniuses are overwhelmingly men. But of course you can't even bring that up, because it's 'sexist'. Instead, it's all "you go, grrrrl!" self-esteem claptrap.
https://rumble.com/vbhmwn-netflixs-new-feminist-series-the-queens-gambit-needs-a-heavy-dose-of-realit.html?mref=23gga&mc=8uxj1
The expression they put on her face is beyond belief. They hired this actress because of her bitch face. Any person who had that as her natural expression would be a monster.
The problem for women who are cast in these in-fact-male roles is that they are caught between two stools. On one hand they can't come off as kittens but on the other they – of course – can't actually pull off the details of testosterone-fuelled masculinity that is required of the hero.
This comes out especially in their walks and their faces.
As to faces, they seem to think that being masculine means to always be snarling. But real alpha men don't snarl. Far from it. They don't have to. Alphas laugh and smile and enjoy life. They're relaxed. Because everybody knows who the fuck they are and everybody is very nice to them.
Think Alcibiades for one of the most alpha of all alphas in history.
Alcibiades never worried about anything.
I agree with the male vs. female-as-male argument. But as to how happiness, joy, and confidence relates to chess, I beg to differ.
The history of chess masters and world chess champions is filled with narratives of mental health issues, from paranoia to bizarre and destructive personal behaviour to murder. One reason, other than genetic differences which may or may not be tied to genius itself (too large a topic to do justice here), has to do with the obsession needed to advance to the top. World champ Bobby Fischer, who had all his teeth extracted after he believed that Russians were spying on his thoughts, once said that he gave "98 percent of my mental energy to chess; others give only two percent." I once knew a chess grandmaster who told me that he got so fucked up on chess that he'd go into a grocery store and see the products on shelves as chess pieces which he'd then try to rearrange into winning moves.
On a more mundane angle, many chess players, at least when they play the game, appear stoic, at least for the purposes of dramatic presentation. And there's no emotional attitude more Hollywood-unfriendly than stoicism.
But I'd pay good money to see a drama based on a tournament face-off between Alcibiades and Fischer!
You are right about chess and unhappiness. I know that Tetris almost broke me emotionally.
But I think the main role of testosterone in these guys was in utero. Their brains got bathed in it and made permanent changes.
In adult life, then, they are highly intelligent and competitive. But once you get up past, say, IQ 145, people start to get wierd.
But in their day to day lives these guys also don't do any exercise, eat right, get sun and so on and if so their testosterone levels will fall and they will become weak and sad creatures. But the brain changes during gestation were permanent.
That is my off-the-cuff theory, anyway.
They don't understand. Testosterone is the confidence and optimism hormone.
@ Soul Forensics
It has recently disputed that (White, though D'Souza did not open the racial worm can) women and men do in fact have the same 100 IQ, 100. It may be that White men have a higher average IQ.
Don't know where I saw that.
"He rightly mentions the Bell Curve, which graphs the fact that geniuses are overwhelmingly men. "
It always amuses me that those who 'rightly mention' that geniuses are overwhelmingly men mostly neglect to mention that the most stupid are also overwhelmingly men. Same bell curve, different end …
Most of us just want someone honest and decent from the middle. Personally I wouldn't have gone near an alpha male – I find conceited people tedious and unattractive. And many alphas – of either sex – are conceited. Nothing more repellent close up.
Well, I suppose a psychopath would be more repellent to be honest. They're more often men too. And there's a bit of a Venn diagram thing going on there as well, with the alphas.
GreenAlba November 30, 2020 at 10:04 am #
And not that I'm suggesting the main value of either genius or alpha-ness is in its attraction in a life partner but it does get mentioned frequently on here in that regard, mostly by Janos to be fair!
Not everyone is interested in alphas. Just sayin'. But we appreciate the bridges they build, just as an example.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=forth+rail+bridge+images&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwidx4TsxKrtAhXeUBUIHVvYALkQjJkEegQIARAB&biw=1920&bih=969#imgrc=OI69Kc1JTMYFKM
D'Souza also mentioned that those on the low end were mostly men. That's why the average IQ for men and women more or less averages out, and why most violent crime is committed by men.
"And many alphas – of either sex – are conceited."
Nonsense. That sweeping generalization, wrongly informed in my experience, is just as bad as saying that all betas are cringing toads who run away at the sound of a chihuahua's bark in an alley.
Patriots [ blue ] win, Cardinals [ red ] lose. 20 to 17 .
20 = expectancy 17 = victory
https://godskingdom.org/studies/books/the-biblical-meaning-of-numbers/chapter-3-numbers-11-20
Nice little clip of Mr. Color Revolution explaning China's role in his NWO.
From the horse's mouth.
https://twitter.com/rh200001/status/1299529096872046592
But do you have any proof?
Now that you mention it, it could be a mysterious "deep fake" produced by one of Trump's Russo-Nazi special information warfare groups.
We need to get one of our forum experts on it.
They say that Biden twisted his ankle while playing with his dog; maybe, but maybe he had his third cerebral stroke, too. A news blackout exists in the Biden camp, and the media doesn't seem interested into digging into anything Biden.
The good news is the the White House communications staff will be "all female". MSNBC is beside itself with glee. We are assured this is the best Communications Staff in the history of the world, bar none.
Apparently every staff and cabinet appointment Biden makes is 'Inspired.". THE ADULTS ARE BACK IN CHARGE!'
Haha, let the adults deal with a peed off Iran, and a China which last week threatened the existence of Australia. When the failures begin piling up overseas, we'll see how the new ALL FEMALE COMM TEAM — the best ever — spins the disasters.
libertysghost December 3, 2020 at 4:48 pm #
So given all of "this"…am I crazy in thinking that moving to a "banana republic" that is at least through the "becoming a banana republic" period may be a better option than sitting around here while the globalists take their "last stand" by targeting the US to get "their military" back?
I find the loss of their global police force to be their biggest "cost" over the last four years… it's when the world's most powerful military no longer wants paid in dollars that currency collapses I figure.