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The singing priest and the great wedding divide
April 11, 2014 Diana Macalintal Inculturation Marriage
You've probably already seen this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYKwqj5QViQ
On Facebook, I have many friends who are liturgists, music ministers, youth ministers, and clergy. There, I've noticed that those who are liturgists mostly cannot stand what this priest did in the video. Those who are youth ministers tend to be much more enthusiastic about this. Music ministers and clergy seem to be on both sides. Yet most all agree that the priest has a lovely voice and sang this song very well. And almost everyone I know loves the original song by Leonard Cohen.
I've already tried to explain to my Facebook friends why this is not an example of good liturgy. But the arguments I hear back from those who are overjoyed at what this priest did are not about what constitutes good liturgy but about what brings joy to the assembly. I lament that we've gotten to the point where for some, "good liturgy" equals joyless liturgy.
The social media conversation around this video is very telling. Liturgists (myself included) have not done ourselves or others any good by beating people over the head with rubrics. Yet rubrics do have value, as does human emotion. How can we bridge the divide?
Added note: So he has done this also for Linda and Donals, changing the names of course, and then "You Raise Me Up" for Mary and John. All I can say is priests better start learning some of these songs to sing because couples will start asking for them. I already know a wedding coordinator who has received several inquiries about "singing priests" for their upcoming weddings.
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Adam Wood says:
The wedding liturgy is about the couple, not the priest.
The singing drew attention away from the couple and directed it toward the priest.
Plus – the lyrics!
It's really a profoundly moving song, but its not even remotely appropriate to a wedding. It's about the ways that lovers hurt each other and the glory that can be found even in that pain.
Love is a lot of things, including sometimes a cold and broken "hallelujah." But a wedding is specifically about the "victory march" of love.
Moreover – it's a remarkably intimate song, the speaker of the song addressing it to his (or her, I guess) lover. The mystifying and pseudo-biblical imagery allows any couple with a shared history to writer their own meaning into it, to put fleshy details into the cosmic poetry.
It is really beyond inappropriate for a priest to publicly insert himself that way into a couple's private story, taking on the vocal role of one of the lovers.
David Haas says:
@Adam Wood – comment #1:
Actually – the wedding is not about the couple either – it is about Christ.
@David Haas – comment #28:
>>Actually – the wedding is not about the couple either – it is about Christ.
Quite right. Thank you.
What I said was a sort of short-hand, assuming that most people who read around here and over at the Cafe already know those sorts of things. Bit I probably shouldn't assume that's the case.
Also, I was trying to think about the incident from the couple-focused, secularized view of a wedding: It's obvious that a liturgical analysis shows this to be a bad practice. I think even a secular humanist view of weddings does as well.
And David:
Speaking of weddings… my brother played for mine, and of course my wife and I selected all the music ourselves. He likes to tell the story that, walking into the church with his bag of music for our wedding another friend commented on its heft, and he responded, "Yeah, it's heavy – it's got the complete works of David Haas in there."
I'm sure there had to have been something else that morning that you didn't write, but the only thing that comes to mind is "All Creatures of Our God and King." But I'm pretty sure we used your Evening Prayer music the night before, so that makes up for it.
Joann Button says:
Um, in a sacramental marriage, the Trinity is present-man, woman, God. Call it a love triangle if you will, but a truly Christian marriage includes God. The priest stands in for God. Hence, I don't see the problem.
Pamela Tibbetts says:
Have you listened to the version that Father Kelly sang? The words were not the original Leonard Cohen words. Mr.Cohen himself ,as I understand it, wrote many many many verses of the song and used different ones at different times. Anyway, The words Father Kelly sang were all about the bride and groom. He used their names, Leah and Chris in the song. I know your comment was made in the spirit of good will and love of Christ, but I believe Father Kelly just saw his song as a gift for the bride and groom.
Chuck Middendorf says:
More than anything, I was distracted by the church environment, especially the way the bridge & groom's chair was basically right next to the Presider's Chair, but 180 degrees turned around–it must have been weird of the Liturgy of the Word. Not to mention the unity candle on the altar.
Not knowing the rest of the context (how the priest knows the couple, what the couple requested, etc.) I'll actually give the rest of it a "pass."
Alan Johnson says:
A non-liturgical aside.
It made the main national news here in the UK. It was bliss to hear the word "priest" without the normal journalistic prefix "paedophile."
Might not tick the right liturgical boxes, but it did the Church's reputation no end of good.
For that I give hearty thanks.
Todd Flowerday says:
It's actually an example of pre-conciliar liturgy modified to the modern mindset of ministry as "servicing" rather than serving the faith community.
There is a class of people who are capable of "performing" liturgy (or music) properly (so to speak). It wouldn't occur to most any couple to commission a composer to write a text and music based on their theological reflection of what this marriage means to them. It wouldn't occur to them to reflect deeply on the Scriptures and prayers of the Rite of Marriage. What they've got instead is a "voice" singing a "song." It's a double import. The couple is serviced and edified. But does their faith grow? Does the faith of the gathered community grow? Does the full lyric of the piece stand up to reflection? Maybe it does. But I'm more likely to think Psalm 34 or Psalm 128 or even Psalm 114 does a better job of it.
That said, beautiful song. Leonard Cohen is certainly a gifted songwriter. When I hear it, I think Shrek, of course, but that identifies me as a parent of a daughter of a particular age.
I expanded my thoughts above into a full post at The Chant Cafe.
http://www.chantcafe.com/2014/04/singing-priest-at-wedding-well-beyond.html
Fr. Neil Xavier O'Donoghue says:
Welcome to the state of the liturgy in my native land. At the risk of being totally lambasted by my fellow countrymen, I'm afraid that I must concur that the myriad of liturgical issues in the video clip are an indication of the state of Catholic liturgy here.
The great Dom Botte had this to say about Irish liturgy: "If you wish to make an assessment of what occurred between the two world wars, you notice that the movement clearly gained ground. From then on it was supported by quality scholarly research. Likewise it spread widely in all Catholic countries, except Ireland. An Irishman who replied to a questionnaire about the liturgical movement said: 'The history of the liturgical movement in Ireland is as simple as that of the snake: there have never been any snakes in Ireland.' In 1915 I attended a funeral in Ireland. I was told it was the only occasion when the Mass was sung. All the clergy of the neighboring parishes were brought in, and all twenty of them were present to roar out the Requiem Mass. It was appalling." From Silence to Participation, 57.
I know that there are islands of better liturgy in Ireland, but on the parish level the sate of the liturgy here is generally appalling. At least this priest is trying to do something, as opposed to the general liturgical apathy that is usually evident. But the idea that the liturgy itself can be sung is alien to most priests. The idea here is to occasionally (for funerals and Christmas and other events) to have music at Mass, rather than singing the Mass. One year when I was celebrating Christmas Mass in my home parish, the parish priest had helpfully arranged for a Brass Band for the music at that Mass, so it was impossible to sing the sanctus or the alleluia, but there was a brass band belting out versions of popular carols during the liturgy. Again in this case it is impossible to know from the clip if the priest sung the parts that should be sung, i.e. the Mass Parts, the Preface, or, particularly for a wedding liturgy, the…
Peter Rehwaldt says:
I think your thoughts are a bit misplaced. As the notes below the video state, while the tune used was the one made popular by Leonard Cohen, the words were written specifically for this occasion by someone else. This *isn't* Cohen's "Hallelujah" being sung here, but something else entirely.
The theology expressed in the words is not terribly problematic — indeed, it fits well with what we say the marriage rite is about.
WE JOIN TOGETHER HERE TODAY,
TO HELP TWO PEOPLE ON THEIR WAY,
AS LEAH AND CHRIS START THEIR LIFE TOGETHER,
AND NOW WE'VE REACHED THEIR SPECIAL DATE,
WE'VE COME TO HELP THEM CELEBRATE,
AND SHOW THEM HOW MUCH WE LOVE THEM TOO,
HALLELUJAH. . .
AS LEAH IS WALKING UP THE AISLE,
AND CHRIS LOOKS UP AND GIVES A SMILE,
THE LOVE THAT FLOWS BETWEEN THEM FILLS THE CHURCH,
WITH LEAH'S FRIENDS AND FAMILY ON HER SIDE,
SHE REALLY IS THE BLUSHING BRIDE,
WITH LOVE AND PRIDE THEY LEAD HER
HALLELUJAH . . .
WITH THE PRIEST AND THE FAMILY WHO LEAD THE PRAYERS,
WE SAY OUR LINES AND THEY SAY THEIRS,
I GUIDE THEM THROUGH THE CEREMONY,
AND IN THIS HOUSE OF GOD ABOVE,
THEY JOIN THEIR HANDS TO SHOW THEIR LOVE,
AND SAY THOSE MOST IMPORTANT WORDS THAT YOU HEARD
What I can't tell from the video is *how* this was used within the rite. If it was the opening to a homily, that would be one thing. If it was to take the place of some other prayer or direction, that might be something else.
But your point about the uniqueness of each wedding is very appropriate. I've done things at one wedding that I'd never dream of doing at any other wedding, because it fit that couple to a T but wouldn't work elsewhere. My take is that this is not something that the priest did flippantly, but that it somehow fit with the bride and groom. At the 2:15 mark, the groom certainly seems delighted, not outraged, which leads me to think that this was not a narcissistic priest calling attention to himself, but a thoughtful priest speaking to this particular couple.
@Peter Rehwaldt – comment #7:
This was in reply to Adam Wood @ #5.
Joe Bonesto says:
So, the lyrics are not inappropriate after all… just inappropriately cheesy.
@Joe Bonesto – comment #10:
Hmmm . . . I'm imagining a cheese-based review: "To some, the words of the priest's song were like a smoked aged gouda — soft and tasty, leaving a pleasant aftertaste to linger on the palate. To others, they were like Velveeta that had been left in the hot sun for a couple of hours — oozy, gooey, and not fit for consumption."
All in all, though, I thought I'd avoid commenting on the quality of the poetry of these lyrics, in that might take us back to the discussion of the quality of the poetry of the new missal translation . . .
Jim Pauwels says:
"What I can't tell from the video is *how* this was used within the rite."
I was wondering the same thing. If it was during the introductory rite, I'd think that the wedding party would be standing. If it was the homily, he'd do it from the ambo. Plus, the past tense, "those most important words that you heard" suggest that it's after the vows. Given that everyone is sitting and he is sitting in the presider's chair, and a song is ending, I think it's likely that this is a post-communion-song little addition that someone dreamed up.
I once attended a Sunday mass in which the entire homily was sung, to the tune, "I Get High With a Little Help From My Friends". The preacher, a deacon, had been a rock star in his younger days, so it didn't seem quite as incongruous as it sounded, and I thought the whole thing worked. People like gimmicky preaching, at least when the gimmick works. They like things to be memorable.
Charles Day says:
@Jim Pauwels – comment #15:
If you watch it to the end, it's clear this was after Communion and before the final prayer, blessing and dismissal. Yes, the lyrics were a little cheesy, but most wedding songs are full of cheese [He is now to be among you at the calling of your hearts
Rest assured this troubador is acting on his part….]. The only thing that offended me was doing it from the altar. But I'm not calling the Temple police on that, either.
Love that take on this. The video sure has caused a ruckus in the Church community!
I thought it a beautiful testimony to love.
Diana, in all the talk in social media that you've been seeing, have you heard how this fit into the rest of the marriage service?
Chris McDonnell says:
Oh pleeese! Lighten up! Fr. Ray Kelly celebrated the love of two people in a memorable manner not necessarily liturgically correct according to the rule book, but celebratory none the less. A living church copes with diversity.
Fritz Bauerschmidt says:
@Chris McDonnell – comment #12:
I don't think anyone here has said that it was "not liturgically correct" because it broke a rule in book somewhere. As I read them, the comment have tried to give theological reasons why one might not see this as a "best practice" for weddings. There are all sorts of memorable ways of celebrating the love of two people that might not be appropriate for a wedding liturgy (one in particular, which doesn't normally involve singing, comes to mind).
Me? I'd probably shrug it off if I were attending and certainly wouldn't call the temple police. But would I hold it up as a model? No.
Most of the comments on another forum have been focused on the fact that this took place during Lent, but
— with a profusion of flowers on the altar that effectively obscured everything else, and
— with (H)Alleluias
I think this came near the end of the service. Rather like a dreadful eulogy at a funeral….
Fr. Jack Feehily says:
Ah, the liturgists are in high dudgeon. Both the progressives and the traditionalists have joined together to accuse the priest not only of bad liturgy but narcissism. I object. I thought it was quite moving and I know that the couple and the assembly was also moved. I rather thought it was an act of serendipity. There must be something in the relationship between this priest and the couple that made this seem right and proper. He did an excellent job and seemed to be using it as a form of blessing….not THE blessing, but a blessing. I think many of you should lighten up and stop focusing in on this as another kind of "clown Mass" to report to the temple police. How about the priests who allow the pets into the church during mass for a blessing on the Feast of St. Francis. Fie on them also.
The priest could offer this as a gift . . . at the reception.
As for the text: it suffers from the banality of telling rather than showing. It's a recap of the action, as it were.
George Lynch says:
The couple in question have just been on national tv in Ireland, speaking from Mexico where they are on honeymoon, thanking the priest for making their wedding so special. Oh that this could be said of all weddings celebrated by all who criticise so freely!
The clip has been watched over 11 million times on utube.
Fr Ray Kelly himself was interviewed on live television.
He has done more for promoting a positive image of church and the church's wedding liturgy than people who think that only what they prefer is proper liturgy.
To all those I say, what you think of this event is what very many think of your liturgical preferences!
Charles Culbreth says:
Okay, enough already with the Temple Police and whatever constitutes the meaning of "very moving" to all involved (aka "Don't be a buzzkill.")
No matter where this calculated, accreted trope was inserted, how does this not aid and abet that which both poles of the liturgy wars abhor, clericalism?"
Do the statistical and PR realities of bumping up the Church's Q factor actually depend upon this one emo priest's heartfelt gift to the happy couple?
This is our universal community now?
Ann Olivier says:
What does the "universal" Church mean? That all the people in the Church are alike? Or that all different sorts of people are integral to the whole?
Now if it had been in Latin, of course that would have made one heck of a difference.
Personally I prefer the version we have. Relax and move on.
Or has Fr Kelly already been notified to the CDF?
Diana Macalintal says:
This was sung after Communion before the concluding blessing (or perhaps it was before the Prayer after Communion…who knows…). But this was not a lone incident, a *special* song for a couple with whom he has a *special* relationship. He's done it a couple other times. See addition to post above.
Norman Borelli says:
Eh, not my cup of tea but so what? It's a big church and there's room for different styles. God speaks to people in different ways.
As far as "the rubrics" go, the Sabbath was made for man, man was not made for the Sabbath.
"Good liturgy" and "joyless liturgy" are in the eye of the beholder.
"'You Raise Me Up' for Mary and John.
Oops. About ten years ago, whenever the song came out, one of the musicians in one of my groups made a very strong push to sing this at Mass. I'll confess I'm willing to try almost anything … once. So I took it home and completely rewrote the verses for the three scrutiny Sundays of Lent, and arrange the refrain for three-part voices–what this ensemble could handle at the time.
It never got a curtain call. Maybe they wanted the original. Maybe they didn't want anything tainted by the non-sacred.
I'm with KLS on the text. That said, it's not worse than some of the MR3 prayers in English in that regard.
On the other hand, something like this bears fruit. Do we deny it? What does that mean, especially for those of us inclined to discount this kind of inculturation?
Daniel Canaris says:
I wouldn't want this at my wedding but I can't see anything "objectively wrong". I have played the organ at countless weddings and have seen much worse. At least the priest has a decent singing voice. I also quite liked how the priest, despite receiving a thunderous applause, did not bask in it and cut it short by returning to the prayers of the service.
Fran Rossi Szpylczyn says:
As is often the case, I am a little late to the party here, but gratefully so. With so many comments, I have a lot to think about, which causes me to reexamine my initial reaction to the video. It was first sent to me by my Jewish cousin, who sent it to her rabbi husband and her rabbi son… and asking the son, a fine singer, to consider doing this at a wedding. (FYI: the two rabbis offered a berakah at Mark's and my wedding reception, with my cousin the older rabbi saying the blessing in English, with my other cousin, his then twenty-something son, chanting it in Hebrew. It was beautiful and appropriate for the reception.
Anyway, at first I thought it was so sweet and then two things hit me, almost simultaneously… One was that dreaded (sorry for my liturgical angry crank appearing) unity candle, the cause of so much drama at my workplace. And the other was the flowers with the candle, on the altar. Gah! Not long after, the Hallulujah during Lent started to bug me. Then a FB friend, a priest, noted how the singing priest became the focus, not the couple, and Jesus… seemingly not a focus at all. (Bravo @David Haas above!)
As other friends began to send it to me, my reaction drew confused dismay from friends, Catholic and otherwise, who loved it. It was then i felt a bit defeated for trying to live in ways that upheld the beautiful sacramental theology of marriage. *sigh* And no, no one would ever call me a traditionalist, but I say this as someone who believes she married not only her spouse Mark that day, but also an entire community in Christ.
I am reminded that our desire for individualism, specialness, making it all about ourselves – something I regrettably have a lot of experience with, and feeling good, seem to trump all.
Yet, some things said here, cause me to pause and reconsider. Of course I am still cranky, but perhaps more thoughtfully so…
Maybe we should start to think of the reception as actually part of a wedding, a part which not only allows but encourages appreciation of the uniqueness of the couple within the Body of Christ.
It has often occurred to me while reading posts here (and in other Catholic blogs) that there is a common metaphysical error being made, viz., the assumption that all the parts of the Church must be alike, that the universality of the Church consists in uniformity of parts. But the Church is an artifact, something made by God Himself with parts that are complementary, that are not simply repetitions of other parts, and the whole is richer for it.
I say treat the reception as a part of the wedding which expresses the individuality of the couple *as members of the Body of Christ*, and have the priest sing then if the couple wants it that way. "Individuality", unlike "individualism" is not necessarily a bad word.
Rita Ferrone says:
Ann, there's another radical shift that would change this whole thing, and that is to hold weddings at Sunday Mass.
This would put the brakes on runaway personalization, "designer" weddings, and actually suggest that the church is celebrating rather than being the mere building or stage set that hosts a private affair for friends and family.
It also means that if brides are late, they can't walk down the center aisle. How do you like that? Making memories…. by sneaking up the side aisle during the Kyrie if you're late. 🙂
@Rita Ferrone – comment #32:
Rita, I second your thoughts here! Weddings during Sunday mass make such sense, and would not allow all the things that make weddings a challenge for liturgists and priests!
@Fran Rossi Szpylczyn – comment #37:
Weddings at Sunday Mass would pose a problem in many places if they noticeably lengthened Mass. Just remember the Prime Directive for Sunday Mass: Thou Shalt Not Noticeably Lengthen Mass.
Joe O'Leary says:
Here is no cause for lamentation but for delight.
Rita,
Sometimes I wonder if those opulent weddings put on by people of modest means are even valid rituals. They certainly exhibit no understanding of what the sacrament of Matrimony entails. Spending 5 years of savings on one party when you're about to start a family shows gross immaturity to me.
Danylo Dichkovskyj says:
I certainly apprieciate the comments questioning the appropriateness of Fr. Kelly's singing, at the alter and during Lent or whether it was nacissistic. However, one must remember: only the Lord may judge him. Comments that I have seen on this blog and on other Catholic blogs, has been very judgemental and smacks of the Pharisees and Sadducees, during the time our Lord, when He was on earth . Only the Lord knows the heart of Fr. Kelly. I will take it as is: very heart felt and endearing to the Lord and the couple.
I wonder if those of you, in the Latin Rite, would be screaming BLASTPHOMY, when witnessing the liturgy of the other 21 churches, in communion with the Bishop of Rome. I am Ukrainian Greek Catholic and could question how "holy" the Latin Rite is, when they keep changing their liturgy, for the sake of making it more welcoming for parishioners. I don't and never will; although the Latin Rite has pushed, for centuries, to "latinize" the liturgy of their brothers and sisters of other Rites.
Ann – I do think that unaffordably opulent weddings are a symptom of some seriously-out-of-whack trends in our culture. Immaturity may be part of it, but by no means is it the only contributing factor.
Here is something that really frosts me: not a single one of my children (all of whom happen to be teens these days) has ever been to a wedding reception. Why? Because the prevailing trend during the last few decades has been: wedding receptions are adults-only.
By the time I was a teenager, I had been to a half-dozen extended-family wedding receptions.
Until their own friends start marrying, my children will never have experienced a wedding reception. It's possible (although I hope it will not be the case!) that the first reception one of my kids attends will be his/her own.
In my mind, anyway, wedding celebrations are important family and communal events. Kids should be part of that mix, and kids should grow up grounded in the experience of it. If the presence of kids makes the receptions less raunchy – so much the better!
Not having experienced it themselves, the only impressions my kids can have of a wedding reception is an impression mediated by television, films, and the other media. I would say it's no wonder that they all think that weddings should be lavish, free-spending affairs.
John Swanson says:
I would determine whether or not the song was appropriate by asking, "With the song did they have a better appreciation that marriage is a sacrament of God's love, that marriage love tells us something about God and that God's love tells us something about marital love?" I'm betting that it did. I'm OK with a bit of personalization at a wedding. I'm not a songwriter or an artist so I will leave it to others whether or not the song was schmaltzy. But for me, that isn't the issue.
#39. That's certainly an inviolable principle in Boston where speedy prayers are regarded as normal. After all, people have to grab a Sunday Globe out in front of the church and get to breakfast.
John Michael Reye. says:
I have been receiving (okay, just 4 emails…and then there were 2 emails during Holy Week) about this and whether the priests in my community can sing and if the Cohen alleluia is available for the priest to sing. Oh, this request was new: for the wedding entourage to leave the aisle to pharrell's Happy.
Michael H. Marchal says:
What the comments here about how the wedding is all about the couple because they are doing the sacrament reveal is a very Latin Rite view of the Sacrament of Matrimony. Since our theology is usually based upon our experience, the Latin Rite emphasis upon the vows means that we get a great impulse into making them the climax of the ritual in church. Eastern Christians don't usually have an exchange of vows in church; the service is about the priest's blessing of the couple and so in their theology he is the one who "confects" the sacrament. This is very similar for me to the different emphasis about what part of the Eucharistic Prayer is the "magic moment," the narrative of institution or the epiclesis.
Just as the post-Vatican II reforms tried to broaden our vision by developing the epicleses within the Roman Eucharistic Prayer, the latest revision of the Rite of Matrimony for the USA asked for permission to do the nuptial blessing immediately after the vows so that the two components would be linked, but that permission was denied. (Surprise?)
John Kohanski says:
"the service is about the priest's blessing of the couple and so in their theology he is the one who "confects" the sacrament."
Actually, the service is about the couple being crowned (literally) in marriage, so therefore, it is the priest who is the "minister of the sacrament" and not the couple, to use Latin terminology. And a deacon cannot crown a couple, it must be a priest or bishop.
Thank you for your terminological clarification. I have been to the crowning, just never had a chance to explore the terminology.
Fr. Neil Xavier O'Donoghue says:
Just as a follow up to this post, the priest in question was interviewed by Crux news agency. The full interview can be found here: https://cruxnow.com/interviews/2018/07/30/viral-singing-priest-hopes-pope-will-spark-new-vocations-in-ireland/
Speaking of the wedding on the YouTube video he stated could didn't know he was going to do it, but "I said to them after the wedding rehearsal: "I might sing a song for you myself." And they kind of looked at each other, almost suspiciously, probably thinking "What is he talking about?" But I just presumed the message had gotten through. So, I stepped up to my microphone, just before the final blessing at the wedding ceremony. I pressed my backing track and I started singing a personalized version of Leonard Cohen's song "Hallelujah," incorporating the bride and groom's names in the song. I had done that many times before."
So he already had a backing track ready to go and just sprung it on them.
He has recently appeared on Britain's Got Talent. I think this appearance. may well constitute good outreach and have potential for evangelization. But I'm still not convinced that a priest should make himself the center of attention during a liturgy. Surely Christ, and the couple themselves, are the centre of the marriage liturgy and not the priest.


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Well... it has been a while since my last BLOG!!!! I apologize, I really need to get better at this! LOL Because I do have lots of wonderful things to share in the world of photography! I promise to try to make more time to BLOG and share fresh new amazing and fun images with you.


Greg gushes for quite a while about Steven Grasse. We do the world's first podcast review of Spodee White…at least we think so. Here's the old Spodee review (light switch included). Greg gushes some more about Steven. Lisa diverts us to Disneyland. "The tip of my tongue says whee!'" Kids and cocktails? "All of your inspiration is me." We finish with another 1:1:1 cocktail, the first one Greg ever made.
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Often, even if we finish eating, we are still hungry, which can cause us to end up ingesting more calories from the bill. Although we are not aware of it, this is sometimes produced by a series of aspects that we ourselves are put into practice and that make us end up with more appetite.
Take note and avoid them. You will eat less like that.
If you suspected it, you were right. Fries, especially salads, are addictive and is that they put ingredients as salts that make us not be able to take only one. If you cannot stop and try to lose weight, you should not open them and, if possible, do not have them at home.
Only in this way will you avoid eating too much.
Although it may seem that they are, the truth is that sweeteners are not healthier than sugar. Sweet processed foods also create dependency.
In the case of artificial sweeteners it has been shown that they do not activate the satiety alerts in the brain, which does the natural sugar, so you end up taking more.
A good solution is to sweeten your products naturally. You can do it with agave honey or the stevia plant.
The processed flour lacks nutrients, so you have to eat more to feel satisfied.
In addition, white bread and pasta have a high glycemic index, which makes your insulin rise. Thus, it causes you more hunger and makes you want to eat sweet things. Therefore, the best option is to consume foods containing whole grains or combine the pasta or bread with protein.
Take them with cheese, chicken or beans to feel satiated and not eat more.
If there is something fattening that is alcohol. And is that alcoholic beverages have many empty calories, diminish your defenses and do not control so much what you eat, so you can make you end up eating too much.
If you are going to drink, make sure it is on a full stomach and in moderation. Try also to drink carbonated water instead of another type of drink.
Believe it or not, you ingest more monosodium glutamate than you think. It is an additive to improve the flavor widely used in China and has also begun to be used in the processed food industry. Create addiction to food. If you wondered why there is so much obesity today, look at the cans, the burgers restaurants and all the packaged food.
To avoid ingesting this ingredient it is best that you check the labels of the processed foods you buy to see if they contain or not monosodium glutamate.
The processed food in general, such as cakes, french fries, frozen pizza, etc. Contain high contents of salts, artificial sugars and other additives. These are the culprits that, when trying them, always want more. Try making your own desserts with the natural fruit candy. Try also to buy foods that are least processed possible. It is proven that by consuming less processed food, you quench before and decrease your craving for eating without stopping.
Sugary cereals are filled with refined flours, and are not the best way to start the day, as they will cause rise and fall in blood insulin levels. And it is that it is detrimental to the metabolism to eat foods so rich in carbohydrates just when we wake up, since cortisol levels are high. With these elevated levels it is more difficult to metabolize the ingested sugars, which will make us feel tired and hungry.
Think very well before starting the day with cereals rich in processed sugar, because all they do is increase your desire to eat.
Have you ever wondered why you would always eat one more slice of pizza?
Pizza is a combination of dough made from refined flour, hydrogenated oils, processed cheeses and preservatives. This combination can have a very harmful impact on your blood sugar levels as well as the production of hormones that indicate satiety and in the regions that regulate hunger in the brain.
So, the only thing that manages to do is to increase the sensation of hunger.


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Raytheon Technologies Corporation es un grupo empresarial multinacional estadounidense con sede en Waltham, Massachusetts. La compañía es uno de los fabricantes aeroespaciales y militares más grandes del mundo tanto por ingresos como por valor de mercado. Especializada en la investigación, desarrollo y fabricación de productos de tecnología avanzada en el sector aeroespacial y defensa, produce motores de avión, aviónica, aeroestructuras, misiles, sistemas de defensa aérea, drones y soluciones en ciberseguridad. Es también uno de los mayores contratistas militares del gobierno de Estados Unidos, de quien obtiene una parte muy significativa de sus ingresos anuales.

La compañía se fundó el 3 de abril de 2020, como resultado de la fusión a partes iguales de Raytheon Company y la división aeroespacial de United Technologies Corporation (UTC). Raytheon era el tercer mayor contratista de Estados Unidos y uno de los mayores del mundo (2019), especializado en la fabricación de armas —era el mayor productor mundial de misiles guiados— y soluciones electrónicas tanto para uso civil como militar. United Technologies era un grupo de empresas diversificado, séptimo mayor contratista del gobierno estadounidense en 2019 y especializado en la fabricación de aeronaves y motores de avión.

Antes de la fusión, el grupo empresarial UTC debió prescindir de varias de sus divisiones dedicadas a otras actividades, como Otis Elevator y la Carrier Corporation. Aunque las siglas de United Technologies Corporation sobrevivieron a la fusión, al contrario que Raytheon, diluida en la empresa resultante de la fusión, UTC cambió su nombre a «Raytheon Technologies» y trasladó su sede a Waltham, sede de la antigua Raytheon Company. El antiguo director ejecutivo y presidente de UTC, Gregory J. Hayes, se convirtió en el director general de la nueva compañía, mientras que el exdirector general y presidente de Raytheon, Thomas A. Kennedy, obtuvo el cargo de presidente ejecutivo. En el momento de su constitución, se situó como la segunda mayor empresa aeroespacial y militar del mundo por volumen de facturación, solo superada por Boeing.

La compañía tiene cuatro divisiones o filiales: Collins Aerospace, Pratt & Whitney, Raytheon Intelligence & Space y Raytheon Missiles & Defense.

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Great news for English speakers learning Taiwanese: Catholic missionary language training centre Maryknoll have just decided to release the contents of their two dictionaries (the English-Amoy Dictionary and the Taiwanese-English Dictionary) under a Creative Commons license. Their content, like this site, will now be open to anyone to use and remix, as long as the original authors are credited.
I have had discussions with Fr. Clarence Engler, the leader of the dictionary project, for a few months now, making the case for Creative Commons and trying to persuade Maryknoll to make the switch. I'm delighted to see they've done this and that their great work can now be reused and built upon by others.
I plan to use the data from the dictionaries as the basis of a free online dictionary, something along the lines of the CEDICT project. Maryknoll are currently revising their dictionaries, so I will be concentrating on putting the structure together first, before integrating the new data once it is ready. As for a timeline, we're probably looking at a year before this is up and running properly, but hopefully it will prove useful. If you'd like to get involved in this project please drop me a line – I'd be very pleased to hear from you.
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I would be appreciated to have a copy of this urgently needed dictionary or Would you please show me how to log in ? Thanks.
Teaching at Chungshan Medical University.Taichung.
That's great! But now I am working on my MA thesis, currently I cannot get involved. Thank you and all the best wishes!
Where could I download these dictionaries if they were open source?
Currently the dictionaries are not available to download. This post is more in the way of announcing the new license – I will update everyone when Maryknoll make the source files available. This may not be for a while though, as they are working on a revised version – I have a feeling it will be this updated version which will be easily available, rather than the current one. More information as soon as I have it.
Can you ask them to keep the original version along with the revised version when publishing the dictionary files?
The originals will be certainly be preserved.
Goá kuí-lo̍h nî chêng bat tī Maryknoll bé koè chit nn̄g -pún jī-tián. 2002-nî ê sin-pán Tâi-Eng jī-tián mā tī Tâi-oân ê Tiàm bé tio̍h.
Chit-má nā ē-tàng tī bāng-lō͘ téng-thâu suî-sî khoàⁿ, choat-tuì sī Tâi-gí-kài ê toā tāi-chì.
Nā ū su-iàu goá mā goān-ì tàu-saⁿ-kāng.
Some years ago I bought these two dictionaries from Maryknoll. In 2002 I also bought the revised version of the Taiwanese-English dictionary at the Taiwan Store.
To be able to see them online at this time is a good thing for the Taiwanese community.
I offer my assistance if it is needed.
This site was built by Michael Cannings, an Taiwanese enthusiast resident in Tiong-hô, Tâi-ôan.


Background: The clinical significance of glomerular lesions detected in zero-hour renal allograft biopsies have yet to be fully examined. Methods: We retrospectively reviewed 229 zero-hour renal allograft biopsies, and investigated the prevalence of transmitted glomerular lesions and their association with urinary abnormalities. Results: Of 117 cases to which immunofluorescence microscopy was applied, immune complex-associated glomerular lesions were found in eight cases (6.8%). Seven cases were diagnosed with immunoglobulin A nephropathy and none accompanied significant urinary abnormalities during the mean follow-up period of 21.9 months. The other case was diagnosed as C1q nephropathy, revealing significant proteinuria and hematuria 1 month after transplantation. The remaining glomerular abnormalities included focal segmental glomerular sclerosis in five cases, focal endocapillary leukocyte infiltration in three cases, and glomerular fibrin thrombi in three cases. Urinary abnormalities were absent during the follow-up period in all of the cases. Conclusions: Our observations suggest that most of the transmitted glomerular lesions were clinically irrelevant and that a renal biopsy is unnecessary to include in a pre-transplant donor evaluation procedure.


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15 GOP states ask court to keep Trump-era immigration rule Title 42
Asylum-seeking migrants from Colombia board a Customs and Border Patrol transport van after crossing the Rio Grande, in Del Rio, Texas, May 22, 2022.
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Fifteen Republican states on Monday night asked a federal judge to keep a Covid-era policy in place that allowed authorities to severely restrict asylum-seekers from crossing the border into the country after the judge issued a ruling last week that blocked the rule.
The GOP states that lifting the rule, which the Biden administration straight has sought to end, will increase the flow of migrants and "directly harm" them.
"Because invalidation of the Title 42 Orders will directly harm the States, they now seek to intervene to offer a defense of the Title 42 policy so that its validity can be resolved on the merits, rather than through strategic surrender," the states said in their filing Monday.
They argue that an increase in migrant flows to the border will "impose financial burdens on the states involuntarily hosting them" and that the states themselves are "entitled to special solitude in the standing analysis."
"The States have sovereign and quasi-sovereign interests in controlling their borders, limiting the persons present within those borders, excluding persons carrying communicable diseases, and the enforcement of immigration law," the filing said.
Last week, US District Judge Emmet Sullivan vacated the controversial rule, known as Title 42, which US Customs and Border Protection has used to turn back migrants at the border before they could make asylum claims. Sullivan sided with the American Civil Liberties Union and other immigration advocates, who argued that the rule was being used as a tool to enforce the border more than a public health measure.
Sullivan cited the Administrative Procedures Act in his ruling, and characterized Title 42 as "arbitrary and capricious." The Biden administration indicated that it won't oppose Sullivan's order in a court filing last week, but requested a temporary delay in lifting Title 42.
The Department of Homeland Security requested five weeks "to prepare to transition" to process all migrants under pre-Covid policies, allowing them to cross the southern border to claim asylum. In his order, Sullivan granted the request with "great reluctance." Title 42 is set to come to an end on Dec. 20, taking effect at midnight Dec. 21.
"To be clear…Title 42 would remain in place for some period. During the period of this freeze, we will prepare for an orderly transition to new policies at the border," DHS said in a statement last week.
Sullivan's ruling last week was issued months after a federal judge in Louisiana ruled in favor of an attempt by the same 15 states — Arizona, Louisiana, Alabama, Alaska, Kansas, Kentucky, Mississippi, Nebraska, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, Virginia, West Virginia and Wyoming — to keep the policy in place.
Lee Gelernt of ACLU, lead lawyer for the plaintiffs seeking to lift Title 42, pushed back against the GOP states seeking to keep the rule in place in a statement to NBC News.
"Title 42 is not about general border enforcement but public health, and these states cannot plausibly claim they are seeking to intervene because of their concern about COVID," Gelernt said.
In April, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas formally announced that the agency would end Title 42 on May 23 and allow families and single adult asylum-seekers who had been turned away at the border to enter the US At the time, thousands of migrants were living in poor conditions and camps in northern Mexico after having been turned back from crossing.
The Biden administration has faced pushback from both parties for its handling of Title 42. Republicans have widely opposed ending the policy, and some centrist Democrats expressed skepticism on whether the administration is prepared for an uptick of asylum-seekers.
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How Do You Stay Motivated: Passion or Productivity?
By Estra Roell
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I recently read an article that really got my attention. It asserted that in order to move forward in life and be successful, don't rely on passion–in fact, the author went so far as to say passion as a force to keep you moving in a successful direction is a lie. His premise was that passion fades quickly and that productivity is what keeps us going through the challenging times.
I totally understand the need to feel and be productive. Just having a passion isn't enough. We do need to act on our passions. The brain likes to know that we are making forward progress. Being in action tells our subconscious that we are serious about achieving what we say we want. Celebrating each accomplishment tells our subconscious that we are in forward momentum and it rallies to assist us with ideas for completing the next step. Productivity feels good and feeling good is an important piece in staying in alignment with our vision. Feeling successful is important. As a former lower elementary Montessori teacher I saw how success breads enthusiasm and a love of learning. The Montessori classroom is designed to help children feel successful as a motivator to further endeavors and being life-long learners. All of this is true and a big part of accomplishing what we want to create in life.
I do have to take exception to his assertion that passion fades quickly, however. He sees passion like a flame that burns brightly and then spends its energy fast. If that is what happens, then I would say that was not a true passion.
Passion is more than a good idea. True passion arises from the heart. It's a calling from your soul and it is something you can't not do. Our passions inform our life purpose-which is our soul's purpose for being here. More and more people are expressing a need to have their work be meaningful to them and to make a real contribution to people or other living things. Success is about much more than advancement within a company, a title, position or certain level of income. It's fine to aspire to those things, but they are the byproducts of a life lived with passion and purpose. Passion calls us to hold the vision of our big dreams and it is that vision that can support us through the challenges that come up along the journey. When you are passionate about your path, the obstacles seem small by comparison to what you want to create.
In "The Passion Test" by Janet and Chris Attwood, Janet had a passion to interview the enlightened men and women in India and produce a film. Chris tried to get her interested in other projects, but with no success. This was an overriding force within her. She had obstacles to getting her crew together, getting funded and making it to India, but by always choosing in favor of her passion, even when it wasn't the obvious choice, everything fell into place for her in miraculous ways. Once in India, she met with unexpected troubles, including going into a mountainous region unprepared and falling terribly ill. People came to her aid and she completed her task. She got her interviews and the footage to produce a documentary series. When Chris asked her how the trip went she declared it was the best experience she'd ever had! The illness and other trials she'd had didn't stand out. Doing what she held as a passion was what mattered.
So the litmus test to whether or not you have a true passion is that nothing will cause you to put it down even if you run into obstacles or temporarily get off track. Productivity is certainly a component to accomplishing your vision, but without the passion, it won't be enough to overcome fear, challenges and everything else in life that wants to pull us away from our purpose. True passion actually creates more productivity.
Known as America's Life Purpose Coach™, Estra Roell is a certified Law of Attraction Life Coach and PSYCH-K® facilitator.
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Nephilim & Fallen Angels: A Biblical Perspective
by Eiran | Jul 29, 2022 | Clips, Movies, Videos | 1 comment
Ancient Aliens Debunked is a 3 hour refutation of the theories proposed on the History Channel series Ancient Aliens. It is essentially a point by point critique of the "ancient astronaut theory" which has been proposed by people like Erich von Däniken and Zecharia Sitchin as well as many others.
In particular I'd like to focus on the part of the film about fallen angels and the Nephilim because it is a complex and strange topic that I suspect will be central to deceiving Christians into believing that the fallen angels who show up some day soon are just our "extraterrestrial brothers".
Transcript from the movie:
Ancient Aliens: "Ancient myths are full of stories of gods descending to Earth to mate with humans."
AA: "According to many sources, including Norse and Greek mythology and even the Bible, we have the stories of the sons of God or actual gods from mount Olympus or Valhalla, and they're coming to Earth. They find the daughters of men attractive."
AA: "According to ancient texts, the fallen angels not only physically mated with the woman of Earth, they produced offspring – the nephilim. [They were] a race of giants similar to those portrayed in the story of David and Goliath."
I pretty much agree with how they start off here. There are many texts from all around the world that do seem to be speaking of the same thing. I also think that because of the eerily similar themes in these accounts it is not wise to dismiss them altogether as a common idea that you would expect independent cultures to invent. I think this topic is worth looking into in depth.
Ancient Aliens seems to hold two contradictory opinions about this issue. On the one hand, they seem to be clear that they believe that extra-terrestrials came to earth in the ancient past and had sexual relationships with human women because they found them attractive.
AA: "Ancient texts talk about the fact that whoever visited the Earth in the remote past – these gods – thought that Earth woman were quite beautiful. In many occasions we find stories where those visitors essentially mated with Earth woman. It was misinterpreted; misunderstood as something divine that came here. They were flesh and blood extraterrestrials. "
AA: "When you look at Greek mythology and many of the mythologies around the world they have these stories of gods coming down from the sky and [having] sexual intercourse with these humans and [essentially] creating a new breed of human."
AA: "When all of these encounters happened and when woman slept with those gods, which can be found in multiple texts all around the planet, those woman actually had sex with extraterrestrials, not with gods – because gods do not exist."
But the view that this event involved lust and sex doesn't fit too well with the Ancient Astronaut theory. They would prefer the view that what happened was artificial insemination
AA: "Today artificial insemination [is what happens]. You no longer have to have sex to have babies. We have the exact same description 1,000s of years ago where woman, without sleeping with anyone, all of a sudden became pregnant."
The problem is that these texts are clear that a physical desire for women on the part of the angels was involved. So in order to make artificial insemination appear in the texts, Ancient Aliens stoops to a new low:
AA: "One of [the] Dead Sea Scrolls is called the Lamech scroll. [Who] is Lamech? Lamech was a shepherd. One day Lamech's woman was pregnant and he said [to her] 'This is impossible. I wasn't here for months'. His woman, Bat-Enosh, swears [that no one touched her] but Lamech does not believe her and he goes to his father, Methuselah. Methuselah says to Lamech: 'I can't help you. I can't understand this. I believe [Bat-Enosh in] that nobody touched her and I believe you. So what shall I do?' [Methuselah then] goes to his father and the grandfather of Lamech, Enoch. Enoch tells Methuselah that the guardians of the sky have made an artificial insemination into the womb of Bat-Enosh, and that he should accept this child because [it shall be a] father of a new human generation – and in the Bible, this is Noah."
They literally lie here. I suppose that Von Daniken is banking on the fact that not many people know about the text he is quoting from and so they probably won't check his facts, so I guess he feels like he can lie to people about what it says.
Let me break down some of the deception in this clip.
AA: "And one day lamech's woman was pregnant and Lamech said 'This is impossible. I wasn't here for months."
The first big lie here is this idea that the reason Lamech doubted that Noah was his son was because he wasn't there for months. The text clearly explains that the reason he doubted whether Noah was his son was because of the way he looked.[1] Von Daniken just inserts:
AA: "I was not here for months."
I guess to make it seem like it couldn't possibly be Lamech's son, which is very deceptive, especially considering that in the text Bat-Enosh his wife actually reminds Lamech of the day they conceived the child.[2] And if you think that is deceptive on Von Daniken's part you haven't seen anything yet.
AA: "Now Enoch tells methuselah that the guardians of the sky have made an artificial insemination into Bat-Enosh."
This is unbelievable. In the text Enoch says exactly the opposite and clearly confirms that Noah is the genuine son of Lamech.[3]
So not only is he bold face lying here about what Enoch said about Noah, he is inserting the idea of artificial insemination on top of this lie.
So you can see that one of the main founders of the Ancient Astronaut theory has absolutely no problem lying in order to make the crucial link they need between the nephilim and artificial insemination in ancient texts.
Although I sympathize with the Ancient Astronaut theorists in that I think the consistent details in the ancient texts about the nephilim leads us to the conclusion that something weird really did happen in the ancient past. I don't think that the evidence points to it being extra-terrestrials from another planet.
Heiser: "Well the whole nephilim passage in genesis 6: 1-4 is admittedly weird. It's one of those go to weird passages in the Bible that seems to come up, especially among people who would resist or not have a supernatural worldview. But, as weird as it is, the key is a supernatural worldview. If we believe that there are intelligent beings outside our own created world; our own material world, why would we limit a supernatural entity from [mating with woman]? What basis would you have to limit that property? If you're going to allow for that, then this idea of being able to mingle with human flesh on some level or way, proceeds from those assumptions."
I think we have already seen that they are being deceptive with the evidence they present, but I also think they are being deceptive with the evidence they are not presenting.
For example, in many ancient texts from the ancient near east to the ancient Americas this hybrid or nephilim-related event is spoken of in conjunction with a great flood. [4]
These stories, with slight variations, describe the flood coming because the hybridization was against the creators will.[5]
Heiser: "There are these flood stories in all these ancient cultures, so [it's likely] some sort of [legitimate] collective memory. The problem is that a lot of those same sources and apologists will forget to include the other details that come along with those flood stories. One these things would be things like cohabitation and some sort of interaction between the divine world and the human world that resulted in strange offspring such as the nephilim."
It's complex and pretty strange, but it is consistent, and it is the story that many diverse cultures have passed down to their descendants.
They really believed this unnatural union produced giants, but again because the consistent stories of ancient cultures conflict with the Ancient Astronaut theory, they literally just throw out the evidence.
AA: "Were they giants or is that the wrong word and [should] the correct word be an extraterrestrial?"
But the word Nephilim really does mean giantvi, and the context of the various stories clearly reinforces this idea. Their height is often described, or the dimensions of their weapons are given, things like that.
Heiser: "The term nephilim really most accurately means giants. This is the way the ancient translators themselves understood it – translators of the Septuagint and Aramaic translations of the Bible. It gets pretty complicated to understand why that is the case. If you visit my website sitchiniswrong.com and click on the tab labeled 'nephilim', you'll find an explanation."
Part of the problem in my opinion, is the differences in the definition of an angel according to ancient texts vs. the definition according to modern pop culture.
If you wanted to determine what an angel was using the bible or other near east texts alone you would conclude that they have fully functional bodies; they can have meals with people; they grab hold of people; they are often mistaken as humans, and in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah the people wanted to rape the angels.
We find in the bible that the angels that decided to rebel and have sex with human women had to leave a certain type of body and exchange it for another one[6]. The type of body they were said to have left is described in this verse as a habitation:[7]
Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
The word "habitation" there is a rare Greek word called oike?te?rion which is used only one other time in the New Testament to describe the type of bodies followers of Christ will attain at the resurrection of the dead.[8]
So basically the angels were said to have left one type of body for another type and, according to the Bible, the second type clearly was capable of sex and reproduction
AA: "There is biblical precedent for the idea that their flesh can do things that our flesh does. In other words, if you're going to assume flesh then it's going to bring forth its possibilities and, in some sense, it's limitations too".
In other words the bible in detail explains what angels are and what their capabilities with their bodies are, which makes the following line from Von Daniken even more deceptive.
AA: "How can angels have sex? This is impossible. In our view, angels were something spiritual not something that has a body and the feeling of sex…but they had sex."
Von Danilieks idea of an angel is defined more by hallmark cards than ancient texts. Obviously ancient cultures including the writers of the Bible believed that angels could and did have sex with human women.
The various elements of this story are too common in ancient cultures to be chalked up to coincidence in my opinion. But the details of these consistent reports do not benefit the Ancient Astronaut theory.
In fact, if anything it supports the idea that the narrative of the Bible is true, or at the very least that the specific details of that narrative were believed by cultures as geographically diverse as the Americas, the middle east, Asia, Europe and Africa.
The idea of the nephilim is a strange idea, but the idea that the texts which describe them are referring to ancient extraterrestrials does not fit the evidence. This is probably why Ancient Aliens has to misrepresent the evidence in order to make their point.
I'll also leave you with this video from End Times Productions that debunks the popular, but false, belief that fallen angels present themselves in grotesque and horrifying ways. In reality fallen angels look just like unfallen angels. Their "fallen" attribute isn't a physical characteristic or a description of their abilities. We call them "fallen" angels because they had a "falling out" with our Creator and were banished from Heaven. Perhaps a better adjective to describe these beings would be "exiled angels" or "rebel angels".
So many people will be deceived to believe that these beautiful, Nordic-looking beings couldn't possibly be fallen angels because they don't look like the popularized evil beings we've been conditioned to believe fallen angels would look like. In the end humans have a strong tendency to make fundamental judgments based on how people look. Perception bias will be a core tenant in the Great Delusion of the Last Days. Lucifer and his legion of rebel angels are counting on it!
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Number System in Maths
What are the 7 laws of exponents?
How many whole numbers are there between 1 and 100?
How to Convert from Binary to Decimal?
What are the 4 types of sequences?
How to convert a whole number into a decimal?
What are some Real Life Applications of Trigonometry?
Solving Cubic Equations - Methods and Examples
How many types of number systems are there?
Pascal's Triangle Formula
If one-third of one-fourth of a number is 15, then what is the three-tenth of that number?
Basic Math Formulas
What is the largest number in the world?
How to calculate a square root?
Difference between an Arithmetic Sequence and a Geometric Sequence
Explain different types of data in statistics
If you roll a dice six times, what is the probability of rolling a number six?
What is the probability sample space of tossing 4 coins?
What is the formula of tan(A - B)?
What is the importance of the number system?
Find the sum of first 50 natural numbers
Point of Intersection of Two Lines Formula
What is the probability of getting a sum of 9 when two dice are thrown simultaneously?
Great Circle Distance Formula
Three times the first of three consecutive odd integers is 3 more than twice the third. What is the third integer?
What is the probability of getting a sum of 7 when two dice are thrown?
Represent √3 on the number line
How to Convert from Decimal to Binary?
Fibonacci Sequence Formula
Population Mean Formula
Is √16 an irrational number?
A Number System is a way of Representing Numbers. Representation of Numbers is done by using digits or symbols. The Numbers that are represented by digits or symbols have the value and the value depends on the place, base, and value of the digits used. Let's look at the different types of numbers found in the number system.
The Real Numbers are the Numbers that consist of ALL THE NUMBERS ie., all of the Rational Numbers and Irrational Numbers. The Complex Numbers are the numbers that are represented in (a+ib) form where b≠0, where a and b are Real Numbers and i is an imaginary unit with the value √-1. When the value is b. It is a Real Number since in (a+ib) b=0 then a+i*0 = a which is a real Number. The Natural Numbers are the Numbers that start from 1 and counts to Infinity. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11…. up to Infinity are Natural Numbers. It is a Subset of Whole Numbers. The Whole Numbers are the Natural Numbers with Including an extra number zero. Integers set are the Number set that consist of negative and positive numbers including zero.
Rational and Irrational Numbers
A Number is called Rational if it can be expressed in the form of p/q, where p and q are Integers. In Other Words, if it can be expressed as a ratio of two Numbers. When a number is expressed in Decimal form, if it terminates it is a Rational Number.
Some Numbers that are Never Terminating But are Recurring are Rational Numbers. For example, 0.0833333… it is the decimal representation of 1/12 is a Rational Number. √4 is also rational it can be expressed in p/q form ie. 2/1
A Number is called irrational if it cannot be expressed in the form of p/q, where p and q are Integers. In Other Words, if it cannot be expressed as a ratio of two Numbers. When a number is expressed in Decimal form, if it never terminates it is an Irrational Number.
the Value π(PI) is 3.1415926…. the value never terminates (we generally round off the value to 3.14), it is an Irrational Number.
Square Roots of the Numbers which are not Perfect Squares are always Irrational Numbers like √2 is 1.41421356237309…
Square Roots of Perfect Squares are always Rational
As mentioned above, the square roots of the perfect square are always Rational. Suppose √x is given and y2= x, where y is a rational number, √x is also a Rational number.
√16 is Rational because, its value is 4, which can be expressed as a Ratio of Two Numbers like 4/1 or 8/2.
Therefore √16 is NOT AN IRRATIONAL NUMBER
Similar Examples
Question 1: Is √8 an Irrational number?
√8 = 2√2 = 2× (1.14142135….) is an Irrational Number because when a number is multiplied with an Irrational Number results in an Irrational Number.
√4 = 2 = 2/1 is rational it can be expressed in p/q form ie. 2/1
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1. Is the number 65.4349224 rational or irrational?
2. Is 3.5 a rational or irrational number?
3. Is 22/7 a rational or irrational number?
4. Is √4 a rational or irrational number?
5. Find an irrational number between 3 and 4
6. Let x be an irrational number then what can be said about x2?
7. Is pi a rational or irrational number?
8. Is 0 a rational or irrational number?
9. Is the square root of 12 an irrational number?
10. Find a complex number a + bi such that a2 + b2 is irrational
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