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What Do You Need to Consider When Starting Your Plumbing Career?
Being a plumber can be a brilliant vocation.
If you don't want to be cooped up in an office all day and enjoy the ability to set your own hours and travel around the city, sorting out people's waterworks, then plumbing is the job for you.
It can also be incredibly worthwhile, financially. In 2018, one self-employed plumber in the UK reported that he had taken home a salary of £210,000 for the year, which is approximately seven times the UK's national average.
However, in order to get to this stage in your plumbing career, you need to be properly prepared.
One of the first things that you'll need to ask is whether or not you have the right insurance.
While it's a good idea to have insurance to cover the work that you're doing at a customer's home (ensuring you're covered if you accidentally flood the place), that's not the only type of insurance that you need to think about.
Unless you're getting to each plumbing job on foot, then you'll want to think about commercial auto insurance.
This type of insurance is designed for people who use some sort of vehicle for their job – such as a plumber who uses a van.
If there are any accidents on the way to or from a job, then commercial auto insurance will cover the cost of damages, allowing you to keep your vehicle on the road so that you can keep working.
As a plumber, there are few things more embarrassing than turning up to a job and finding out that you don't have the right tools.
Your customer suspects that there's a giant hairball clogging up the pipes but you've forgotten the snake. Or, you realize that you need to unscrew something and find out that you've left your wrench at home.
There are more than two dozen tools that every plumber should have in their toolbox, ranging from a tube cutter and an adjustable wrench to a set of drain rods and a soldering mat.
While getting quality tools may seem like a big expense, they're required if you want to be prepared to take on any job.
As an aspiring plumber, you may think that your biggest task is to solve what's making the water do the thing it's not supposed to be doing.
That's only mostly true. The other task is to keep the customer happy. They may not know a thing about plumbing but they are the one who's going to be paying you – potentially with a hefty tip.
To keep everyone happy, it's a smart idea to brush up on your customer service skills.
Practice having patience so that you can answer seemingly ridiculous questions about how plumbing works with a smile, and have good communication skills so that they understand how much the job will cost and how long (estimated) it will take.
If you take the time to think about what a good plumber has (skills, tools, and insurance) then you can find huge success in the plumbing industry. There's always a need for someone to fix a clogged toilet and people will be willing to pay you very well to do it.


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Drew Kelley is a product designer and manufacturer of Frank Lloyd Wright inspired handmade products for your home and garden produced at his workspace at The Foundry, a creative makerspace in Buffalo, NY.
Our bird feeders are made from Marine Grade Plywood, a very tough, stable material. FLW specified MGP - used in boatbuilding - for the cabinetry at Fallingwater which is located above a waterfall and can be a rather damp environment. The feeders are assembled using a quality exterior wood glue and stainless steel fasteners. The various art glass windows are laser cut acrylic backed by clear polycarbonate to create the seed hopper. A 300lb test polyester hang cord is attached.
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Darwin D. Martin House Bird Feeders
The art glass windows are inspired by a 1903 design sketch by FLW for the "Tree of Life" windows found at the Martin House complex in Buffalo, NY.
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The art glass windows are from FLW's "Tulip" window designs that were found in the Lake Geneva Hotel in Wisconsin. The hotel was built in 1911 but was demolished in 1970 after a major fire.
Laser Prism Glass Bird Feeders
Early in his career FLW developed 45 window designs for the Luxfer Prism Glass Company in Chicago. Before the wide use of electric lighting prism glass windows were intended to help refract and spread daylight into stores and factories. The art glass windows here are from an 1897 patent drawing of one of his designs.
Dana-Thomas House Birdhouse
The laser engraved acrylic front piece is of the south entrance of the Dana-Thomas House built in 1904 in Springfield, IL. The roof is cedar with a terra cotta exterior stain finish and the sides are constructed of pine using stainless steel fasteners and an exterior grade wood glue. The base is removable for cleaning and a hanger bracket is included. The house is sized for chickadees and house wrens.
Drew has been an Industrial Designer for 35+ years creating a wide range of products developed and conceptualized, In recent years he has turned his focus to working with the Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation to develop products for the home and garden.

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NASA's Europa Clipper Mission On Track For 2020s Launch
Allan Adamson, Tech Times 23 August 2019, 02:08 am
NASA is exploring a new world, where it can possibly find signs of alien life — the Jupiter moon Europa — and it is on track for a mid-2020s launch.
Europa Clipper Mission
NASA officials revealed on Aug. 19 that the U.S. space agency has cleared the Europa Clipper mission to proceed through the final-design phase and into spacecraft construction and testing.
If all things go as planned, NASA could launch the Europa Clipper mission in 2023 or 2025.
"We are all excited about the decision that moves the Europa Clipper mission one key step closer to unlocking the mysteries of this ocean world," said Thomas Zurbuchen, associate administrator for the Science Mission Directorate at NASA.
Zurbuchen said that they are building upon the scientific missions of Galileo and Cassini spacecraft, which orbited Jupiter and Saturn, respectively, to have a better understanding of the origin of life on Earth and elsewhere.
Just like Earth, Europa is believed to have an iron core and a rocky mantle. The Galileo mission in the late 1990s gathered strong evidence suggesting the existence of an ocean of salty water hiding beneath the frozen shells of Europa. If this indeed exists, this ocean could hold more than twice the amount of water on Earth.
Scientists think that this water is in contact with the rocky core of the moon that could make possible a range of interesting chemical reactions. This is why Europa is one of the extraterrestrial worlds astrobiologists think have the potential to host alien life.
Mission Not To Find Alien Life
Europa Clipper's mission, however, is not to find signs of life. The probe's mission is to study the moon's habitability. The spacecraft will characterize Europa's huge ocean during flybys and collect a range of data, which include those that could help scientists identify a good touchdown sites for a potential life-hunting lander mission.
"The spacecraft would orbit the giant planet about every two weeks, providing many opportunities for close flybys of Europa," NASA said. "The mission plan includes 45 flybys, during which the spacecraft would image the moon's icy surface at high resolution and investigate its composition and the structure of its interior and icy shell."
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A Lifestyle Entrepreneur is someone who has decided to build a business to make a living and satisfy his own personal motivations. Personal motivations will vary from one LE to another. One LE might start his own business to cut down on the travel that he must endure to spend time with his family, while another LE might start his own business to increase the amount of travel she must do in order to see the world. Still others might decide that working in the corporate world has essentially sucked their will to work there any longer and set out to build a company where they want to work instead. A Lifestyle Entrepreneur doesn't start a business to work less. It's a lot of hard work, especially in the beginning. But assuming you're reasonably successful and good at what you do, you can eventually set things on cruise control and coast along, living the life you want while not reporting to people whom you probably never liked much anyway.
I started Moon River Software out of a burning desire to be in control of my own destiny. Recently, I had a consultant on site who was amazed that we worked from 8am-5pm. Currently, he works from around 6:30am to 6pm five days a week. He also works at least every third Saturday, sometimes every other Saturday. Thanks, but no thanks. I'm not going to work ghastly hours for someone else's benefit when I'm not getting anything in return other than gratitude. I wouldn't expect my employees to submit to that either.


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Thornton, Wasson and Clyde Families in the Mohawk Valley, New York during the American Revolution
In 1753, my ancestor William Thornton, born 1713 in Ireland, left his New Hampshire home and headed about 125 miles west to Schenectady, in the Mohawk Valley of New York. Today it's a scenic three hour drive, then it was an arduous journey that might have taken weeks. Little did William know that in less than 25 years this remote, fertile valley would be the site of some of the bloodiest fighting of the American Revolution. The combatants were English Loyalist, Native Americans, American Patriots of Dutch, English and Scots-Irish descent.
Traveling with William was his wife Dorcas Little Thornton and their children; William, Matthew, James, Mary, and Thomas, all under the age of 10. More children would be born in their new home. Also making the trek to the Mohawk Valley was Thomas Little, father of Dorcas, and William's sister, Agnes Thornton Wasson, and her husband, John Wasson Sr. and their children; Catherine Wasson Clyde wife of Samuel Clyde, John Wasson Jr. who married Dorothy Little, Thomas Wasson, Thornton Wasson and George Wasson. These families were intimately bound to each other through the bonds of marriage. In fact, William Thornton's son John, born in 1753 in Schenectady, married Anne Clyde, daughter of Catherine and Samuel Clyde. She was born in 1764.
So, why did they go and what was life like in the Mohawk Valley? And how did they survive living in one of the most dangerous places to be during the American Revolution? Let's start with some background on the area.
Arriving in 1661, the Dutch were the first European people to permanently settle in the Mohawk River Valley. You only have to look at a map of the area to see the Dutch influence. Towns such as Amsterdam and Rotterdam, revel their Dutch origins in their names. The Dutch, of course, established Dutch Reform Churches in their new settlements. After the French and Indian Wars, English and Scots-Irish settlers began to move into the fertile valley to establish farms. These groups intermarried, forming new bonds. During the American Revolution many men of Dutch descent fought for the American cause. [ 1 ]
The Natives
The Mohawk Valley takes it's name from it's original inhabitants, the Mohawk Indians. The Mohawk was one of five Iroquois tribes that inhabited a vast area of New York and Canada. One Native American in particular played a key role in the response of the people of the Mohawk Valley to the American Revolution. That man was Joseph Brant, a member of the Mohawk tribe whose Indian name was Thayendanega. He was born in March of 1743 in Ohio, during a hunting trip. He was raised at Canajoharie on the Mohawk River in New York. His father was not a chief, but was a member of some standing in his tribe. [2]
Sir William Johnston, Superintendent of the Northern Indians, made Joseph a protegee of sorts. Joseph's sister Molly was Johnston's mistress, whom he married after the death of his wife Catherine in 1759. Sir William recommended him to the Moor Charity School for Indians, at which he studied Western history among other subjects. The school is now known as Dartmouth College, in Lebanon, Connecticut. After completing his education he went to work for Sir William and was his assistant during the French and Indian Wars. [3]
Joseph married and settled on a farm in Canajoharie. He converted to Christianity and became a member of the Anglican church. He translated parts of the bible into his own language. Brant was also a Freemason. When the war came, he was a Loyalist. [4]
In 1776 Joseph Brant was chosen as Principal Chief of the Confederacy of the Six Nations and a Captain in the British Army. He would wage bloody brutal war on his rebellious friends and neighbors, and was responsible for the destruction of their property and the death of hundreds. [5]
The English
The major players for the Loyalist side of the American Revolution were the Johnsons and the Butlers. Sir William Johnson, who so influenced the life of Joseph Brant, was succeeded in his lands by his son, Sir John Johnson and his position as Superintendent by his son in law, Colonel Guy Johnson, upon his death in 1774. John Johnson lived at Fort Johnson, his father founded Johnstown. Guy Johnson was a nephew of William's and he married his first cousin Mary, William's daughter. [6] Guy and Mary lived in a mansion called Guy Park in the city of Amsterdam.
The Butler family, like the Johnsons, were wealthy and held positions of power in the Mohawk Valley. John Butler and his son Walter were loyalist who formed their own militia company; Butlers Rangers. Walter Butler was among the most hated of the loyalist, following the massacre at Cherry Valley, for which he was blamed. [7]
The Thorntons
The Thornton's left New Hampshire and settled in the fertile river valley near the town of Schenectady in a place called Curries Bush. There is no town there now, only a road called the Curry Bush Road, but it was near modern day Princetown. Thomas Little and his family also settled near Princetown. The records are thin for this era so there is not much in the way of documentation for them. But we do know a few things about the family.
In his bible, James Thornton, son of William and Dorcas wrote that his mother died in Curry Bush in 1763. James who recorded her death in his bible was nineteen at the time, William's youngest was John, age ten. [8] Dorcas is said to have buried on her father's father, which eventually came into the hands of the Wasson Family, through the marriage of Dorcas's sister Dorothy to John Wasson. [9]
As the older boys grew to manhood they began to take on the duties of adult life, including military duties. In 1767 the local militia was headed by Captain Daniel Campbell. On his muster roll dated 12 May 1767 are the names William Little, Thomas Little Jr., William Thorenton, James Thornton, and Matthew Thornton. Also on the list, but I think misspelled, is John Wasson Sr. and his son Thomas Wasson. [10] I have two questions concerning the list. The first is why was William's surname spelled differently and second was William the 54 year old father or the 22 year old son?
Matthew was the first of the boys to get married. On 30 March 1768 he married Mary Crawford. [11] James married Antje Schermerhorn in the Dutch Reform church on 19 February 1769. [12] Both couples had a daughter born in June of 1770 and both girls were called Dorcas. [13]
This is confirmed by a land deed in which William sold land in New Hampshire, the deed places him in Curries Bush in 1771.
The Wassons
William's sister Agnes married John Wasson. Like William they immigrated with their family to Schenectady, leaving Chester, NH in about 1753. John Wasson found work in Schenectady as a butcher. Eventually he too moved to Curries Bush.
His only daughter married Samuel Clyde, also from New Hampshire, they moved to Cherry Valley in 1761. The remainder of the children, all boys, stuck close to home, now Curries Bush.
[b] William Maxwell Reid, The Mohawk Valley, it's legends and it's history, (New York, NY : GP Putman and Sons, 1902).
[1] Jonathan Pearson, Contributions for the genealogies of the descendants of the first settlers of the patent and city of Schenectady, from 1662 to 1800, (Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Pub. Co., 1976).
[2] George L. Marshall Jr. "Chief Joseph Brant: Mohawk, Loyalist and Freemason," Varsity Tutors (https://www.varsitytutors.com : accessed 5 November 2016).
[3] Richard Berleth, Bloody Mohawk,
[5] Reid, The Mohawk Valley.
[6] Berleth, Bloody Mohawk
[8] James Thornton's Bible
[9] Find A Grave, database and images (http://findagrave.com : accessed ), memorial page for Dorcas Little Thornton (1725-1763), Find A Grave Memorial no. 95382890, citing Wasson Family Cemetery, ; this is a private cemetery on the old farm owned by Thomas Little. Many Wasson's are said to be buried there, but the headstones are degraded and cannot be read.
[10] New York State Historian, New York Colonial Muster Rolls, 1664-1775, Vol 2, (Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2000) 824.
[11] Thornton book
[i] "U.S. Dutch Reformed Church in Selected States, 1639-1989," database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 9 Novemeber 2016) citing Schenectady Baptisms, Vol. 2, Book 42, entry for Dorcas Thoornton.
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Whitney Port's Net Worth: How Much Is The Hills Star Worth?
Reality TV fans were introduced to TV personality Whitney Port when she debuted on MTV's "The Hills." If you weren't around for "The Hills," then know that the show was essentially a predecessor to the reality shows on networks like E! and Bravo that we all know and love today. Producers for "The Hills" followed Port and friends Lauren Conrad, Heidi Montag, and Audrina Patridge as they lived their lives as young professionals in Los Angeles, reported The New York Times. Port and Conrad, most notably, interned at Teen Vogue's West Coast office under editor Lisa Love, according to The New York Times.
Even though "The Hills" was known for eccentric personalities a la Heidi Montag and ambitious go-getters like Lauren Conrad, Port was more subdued. InStyle's Alyssa Hardy described her as "an unproblematic secondary character that asks the right questions to keep the plot moving." But Port has come into her own in recent years. The reality star is also a fashion designer and author, having released a collection called Whitney Eve in 2008, according to Us Weekly, and a book titled True Whit: Designing a Life of Style, Beauty, and Fun in 2011.
With her "Hills" tenure and projects since the show ended, how much is Port really worth?
Whitney Port makes money from her YouTube channel
Whitney Port became a household name when she starred on MTV's "The Hills" and its spin-off series "The City." Soon after her time in reality TV, Port became a fashion designer and an author. Now, she's also added mother, podcaster, and entrepreneur to her resume. Port's net worth is estimated to be $5 million, according to Celebrity Net Worth, but that may not be accounting for all of Port's various revenue streams.
Alongside her podcast, Port must be making money from her sustainable loungewear brand, Cozeco, that she created during quarantine. "Loungewear was something — even before quarantine — that I was really passionate about," Port told Women's Wear Daily. "I felt there was really a hole in the marketplace for something that was affordable, accessible, direct-to-consumer and completely organic and eco-friendly."
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Husband Is a Teacher But Has 'Mentorship' Relationships with Students
Asked by Feeling Confused on 2018-05-8 with 1 answer:
My husband(57) is a Phys Ed teacher and sports coach. He deals with thousands of students every day, but he always seems to have his favourites — normally girls of 18-20 who pour out their problems to him about being raped by family members/friends and appeal to his fatherly/protective side. There was even a case where the young girl was sending nude photos to him on her phone — which unfortunately my teenage daughter happened to see. We all went for counselling a few years ago, but now he has this relationship with a young girl who he coached softball last year. I picked up some vibes last year and challenged him but he said they were very close and he was helping her with some issues as she has been raped by her uncle at an early age.
Anyway, in Jan I felt he was on his phone too much again, and I looked at a current conversation when he went to the kitchen, and it was with this young girl again and the content was not appropriate – in my opinion (dreaming about him etc, sending love and hugs etc). We had a huge argument and he assured me that he would delete her off his phone – AGAIN – and that he was just helping her through some issues. BUT THEN in June this year I happened to see that her name was back on his phone and he said that she was now working in the Tuck Shop at the school (she left in 2014) and had also asked him if she could coach softball for the younger team. He had not told me as he did not want to HURT ME!!! that there was nothing going and that they were close as a father and daughter. So she is back on his phone and with him quite a lot for softball etc.
I told him I was really not happy about the situation, and he went wild that I was looking at his phone again, and assured me that she was just a coach and that she was just like a daughter to him even though I saw 30 whatsapps in ONE DAY. I feel like a stalker now as I have her on my phone (not that she knows) & I see that they are on whatsapp at the same time – I feel terrible and really don't know how to tackle this – am I over reacting. I a finding it hard to trust him. (From South Africa)
Answered by Daniel J. Tomasulo, PhD, TEP, MFA, MAPP on 2018-05-8 - Link
You're not overreacting. It's typically very much frowned upon for that close of a relationship between teacher and student. It is far too much contact — and clearly inappropriate. But the most difficult part about this is that it really bothers you, and he is choosing to maintain the relationship rather than honor his wife. Also his past behavior indicates that he has obvious difficulties in setting boundaries.
It is time for couple counseling. You may want to talk to the therapist you had earlier to help sort this through. I would do this sooner rather than later. Without a third/party intervention by a therapist, it doesn't sound like he has the ability to properly manage himself sound students.
Wishing you patience and peace,
Dr. Dan
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Dan Tomasulo Ph.D., TEP, MFA, MAPP teaches Positive Psychology in the graduate program of Counseling and Clinical Psychology at Columbia University, Teachers College and works with Martin Seligman, the Father of Positive Psychology in the Masters of Applied Positive Psychology (MAPP) program at the University of Pennsylvania. He is Director of the New York Certification in Positive Psychology for the Open Center in New York City and on faculty at New Jersey City University. Sharecare has honored him as one of the top 10 online influencers on the topic of depression. For more information go to: http://www.dare2behappy.com/. He also writes for Psych Central's Ask the Therapist column and the Proof Positive blog.
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Q: IDA pro understanding disassembly specifics Currently trying to disassemble a string-to-mem copy function of an old game from x86 machine code to C++.
From the function below I see that the code checks if the string is larger than the destination space reserved for assignment.
If it is not, it goes into the ELSE where string is directly copied.
If it is, then it cuts the string from string[*(this_dest-1) - *this_dest] location.
I do wonder what can be done to make the pseudocode look more C++ like?
So far I cannot find solution for *(this_dest-1) - *this_dest.
I am just using this to learn how to disassemble better so any other tips are welcome!
char *__thiscall copyA2strToA1mem(char *this, const char *strStart_a2, char *strEnd_a3)
{
  void *dest_v4; // edi
  size_t strLength_v5; // eax
  size_t destLength_v6; // ecx
  const void *v7; // edi
  void *v8; // esi
  char *i; // esi

  dest_v4 = *this;
  strLength_v5 = strEnd_a3 - strStart_a2;
  destLength_v6 = *(this + 1) - *this;
  if ( strEnd_a3 - strStart_a2 > destLength_v6 )// destination space > string size ?
  {
    qmemcpy(dest_v4, strStart_a2, destLength_v6);
    for ( i = &strStart_a2[*(this + 1) - *this]; i != strEnd_a3; ++i )
      sub_401D20(this, *i);
  }
  else
  {
    qmemcpy(dest_v4, strStart_a2, strLength_v5);
    v7 = *(this + 1);
    v8 = (strLength_v5 + *this);
    if ( v8 != v7 )
    {
      memmove(v8, v7, 1u);
      *(this + 1) += v8 - v7;
      return this;
    }
  }
  return this;

Here is the assembly code:
 00406660     copyA2strToA1mem proc near              ; CODE XREF: sub_406430+1AB↑p
 00406660                                             ; sub_409130+1CC↓p ...
 00406660
 00406660     strStart_a2     = dword ptr  4
 00406660     strEnd_a3       = dword ptr  8
 00406660
 00406660 000                 mov     edx, [esp+strStart_a2]
 00406664 000                 push    ebx
 00406665 004                 push    ebp
 00406666 008                 mov     ebp, [esp+8+strEnd_a3]
 0040666A 008                 push    esi
 0040666B 00C                 mov     ebx, ecx
 0040666D 00C                 mov     ecx, [ebx+4]
 00406670 00C                 push    edi
 00406671 010                 mov     edi, [ebx]
 00406673 010                 mov     eax, ebp
 00406675 010                 sub     eax, edx
 00406677 010                 sub     ecx, edi
 00406679 010                 cmp     eax, ecx
 0040667B 010                 mov     esi, edx
 0040667D 010                 ja      short loc_4066BA
 0040667F 010                 mov     ecx, eax
 00406681 010                 mov     edx, ecx
 00406683 010                 shr     ecx, 2
 00406686 010                 rep movsd
 00406688 010                 mov     ecx, edx
 0040668A 010                 and     ecx, 3
 0040668D 010                 rep movsb
 0040668F 010                 mov     esi, [ebx]
 00406691 010                 mov     edi, [ebx+4]
 00406694 010                 add     esi, eax
 00406696 010                 cmp     esi, edi
 00406698 010                 jz      short loc_4066E4
 0040669A 010                 mov     eax, edi
 0040669C 010                 sub     eax, edi
 0040669E 010                 add     eax, 1
 004066A1 010                 push    eax             ; Size
 004066A2 014                 push    edi             ; Src
 004066A3 018                 push    esi             ; Dst
 004066A4 01C                 call    memmove
 004066A9 01C                 add     esp, 0Ch
 004066AC 010                 sub     esi, edi
 004066AE 010                 add     [ebx+4], esi
 004066B1 010                 pop     edi
 004066B2 00C                 pop     esi
 004066B3 008                 pop     ebp
 004066B4 004                 mov     eax, ebx
 004066B6 004                 pop     ebx
 004066B7 000                 retn    8
 004066BA     ; ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 004066BA
 004066BA     loc_4066BA:                             ; CODE XREF: copyA2strToA1mem+1D↑j
 004066BA 010                 mov     eax, ecx
 004066BC 010                 shr     ecx, 2
 004066BF 010                 rep movsd
 004066C1 010                 mov     ecx, eax
 004066C3 010                 and     ecx, 3
 004066C6 010                 rep movsb
 004066C8 010                 mov     esi, [ebx+4]
 004066CB 010                 sub     esi, [ebx]
 004066CD 010                 add     esi, edx
 004066CF 010                 cmp     esi, ebp
 004066D1 010                 jz      short loc_4066E4
 004066D3
 004066D3     loc_4066D3:                             ; CODE XREF: copyA2strToA1mem+82↓j
 004066D3 010                 mov     cl, [esi]
 004066D5 010                 push    ecx
 004066D6 014                 mov     ecx, ebx
 004066D8 014                 call    sub_401D20
 004066DD 010                 add     esi, 1
 004066E0 010                 cmp     esi, ebp
 004066E2 010                 jnz     short loc_4066D3
 004066E4
 004066E4     loc_4066E4:                             ; CODE XREF: copyA2strToA1mem+38↑j
 004066E4                                             ; copyA2strToA1mem+71↑j
 004066E4 010                 pop     edi
 004066E5 00C                 pop     esi
 004066E6 008                 pop     ebp
 004066E7 004                 mov     eax, ebx
 004066E9 004                 pop     ebx
 004066EA 000                 retn    8
 004066EA     copyA2strToA1mem endp

A: ebx is being set to the initial value of ecx, which is this pointer if the calling convention truly is __thiscall.
[ebx], ie [ebx+0], refers to the data member located at byte offset 0 in this.
[ebx+4] refers to the data member located at byte offset 4 in this.
The way these two data members are being used, we can assume they are 32-bit pointers, and they are related to each other, so they are most likely the start and end pointers of a buffer.
Knowing that, if I translated the assembly correctly, the C++ code would look something like the following:
SomeClass* SomeClass::copyA2strToA1mem(char *strStart, char *strEnd)
{
    int strLen = strEnd - strStart;
    int bufferLen = this->bufferEnd - this->bufferStart;
    if (strLen <= bufferLen)
    {
        qmemcpy(this->bufferStart, strStart, strLen);
        char *src = this->bufferEnd;
        char *dst = this->bufferStart + strLen;
        if (dst != src)
        {
            memmove(dst, src, 1);
            this->bufferEnd += (dst - src);
        }
    }
    else
    {
        qmemcpy(this->bufferStart, strStart, bufferLen);
        strStart += bufferLen;
        while (strStart != strEnd)
        {
            this->sub_401D20(*strStart++);
        }
    }
    return this;
}

The memmove() is a little tricky.  I think the code is checking if there is a gap between the end of the copied string and the end of the buffer, and if so then it is effectively moving 1 byte from the end of the buffer to the end of the copied string, and then setting bufferEnd to point at that byte.  Why, who knows.

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American football linebacker and defensive end
For the mining engineer, see Charles Scott Haley.
No. 94, 95
Outside linebacker, defensive end
(1964-01-06) January 6, 1964 (age 55)
Gladys, Virginia
6 ft 5 in (1.96 m)
255 lb (116 kg)
Naruna (VA) William Campbell
NFL Draft:
1986 / Round: 4 / Pick: 96
San Francisco 49ers (1986–1991)
Dallas Cowboys (1992–1996)
5× Super Bowl champion (XXIII, XXIV, XXVII, XXVIII, XXX)
5× Pro Bowl (1988, 1990, 1991, 1994, 1995)
2× First-team All-Pro (1990, 1994)
2× NFC Defensive Player of the Year (1990, 1994)
Dallas Cowboys Ring of Honor
San Francisco 49ers Hall of Fame
Division I-AA All-American (1985)
Career NFL statistics
Tackles:
Sacks:
Interceptions:
Forced fumbles:
Player stats at NFL.com
Player stats at PFR
Charles Lewis Haley (born January 6, 1964) is a former American football linebacker and defensive end who played in the National Football League (NFL) for the San Francisco 49ers (1986–1991, 1998–1999) and the Dallas Cowboys (1992–1996).
A versatile defensive player, Haley began his career as a specialty outside linebacker, eventually progressing to pass-rusher and finally full-fledged defensive end. He is the first five-time Super Bowl champion and is second only to Tom Brady who has six Super Bowl titles. He won two Super Bowls with the 49ers (XXIII, XXIV) and three with the Cowboys (XXVII, XXVIII, XXX); he was a starter in all five championship games. Haley was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 2011 and was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2015.
1 Early years
2 Professional career
2.1 San Francisco 49ers (first stint)
2.2 Dallas Cowboys
2.3 San Francisco 49ers (second stint)
2.4 Career statistics
3 Honors
Early years[edit]
Haley was born in Gladys, Virginia. He attended William Campbell High School in Naruna, Virginia where he was a three-year starter for the football team, while playing linebacker and tight end. As a senior, he received defensive player of the year honors, All-Region III and All-Group AA accolades, while helping the team win the Seminole District championship.[1] He also played basketball and was an All-district selection.
Haley was not highly recruited at the start of his senior season, so he accepted a scholarship from James Madison University, which at the time was the only Division I-A or I-AA school to make an offer. He was named a starter at defensive end / linebacker as a freshman, posting 85 tackles (second on the team), 5 sacks, 6 passes defensed and 4 forced fumbles.[2]
The next year, Haley was moved to inside linebacker, making 143 tackles (led the team) and 4 sacks. As a junior, he tallied 147 tackles (led the team), 3 sacks and 2 interceptions.[3] In his final year he was switched to outside linebacker for the last four games, registering 131 tackles (second on the team), 5 quarterback sacks, 3 blocked kicks and one interception.[4]
Haley was a two-time Division I-AA All-American and finished his career with 506 tackles (school record), 17 sacks, and 3 interceptions.[5] Haley is a member of the Xi Delta chapter of Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity at James Madison.
Professional career[edit]
San Francisco 49ers (first stint)[edit]
Haley was selected by the San Francisco 49ers in the fourth round (96th overall) of the 1986 NFL Draft, after dropping because he initially was timed at 4.8 seconds in the 40-yard dash, although he was later clocked by a 49ers scout at 4.55 seconds. He played outside linebacker in a 3–4 defense, finished second behind Leslie O'Neal for rookies with 12 sacks and was voted to the NFL All-Rookie team by Pro Football Weekly and the United Press International. The following year, he played again in a designated pass rusher role, coming into the game in likely passing situations, while making 25 tackles and 6.5 sacks.
In 1988, Haley was named the starter at left outside linebacker, registering 69 tackles, 11.5 sacks and would hold that spot through the 1991 season. The next year, he tallied 57 tackles and 10.5 sacks.
In 1990, Haley had 58 tackles, 9 passes defensed, was third in the league with 16 sacks, was voted the UPI NFC Defensive Player of the Year and was a consensus All-Pro.
In 1991, Haley's relationship with the organization began to deteriorate after safety Ronnie Lott was left unprotected—eligible to sign with any team under Plan B free agency. He still recorded 53 tackles, 6 passes defensed, 2 forced fumbles and 7 sacks, tying for the team lead with Larry Roberts. While with the 49ers from 1986 to 1991, he led the team in sacks every season, and played on the Super Bowl XXIII and Super Bowl XXIV championship teams.
On August 26, 1992, Haley's volatile temperament and clashes with head coach George Seifert prompted the team to trade him to the Dallas Cowboys in exchange for a 1993 second round selection (#56-Vincent Brisby) and a 1994 third round selection (#99-Alai Kalaniuvalu).[6][7]
Dallas Cowboys[edit]
In 1992, Haley was moved to right defensive end in the Dallas Cowboys 4–3 defense, made 39 tackles, 6 sacks, and 42 quarterback pressures (led the team), and helped the team improve from 17th in total defense in 1991 to first. Haley received the UPI NFC Defensive Player of the Year Award and was a consensus All-Pro once again. He is often mentioned as the final piece that helped propel the Cowboys into a Super Bowl contender.[8]
In 1993, Haley made headlines after smashing his helmet through a wall in the locker room following a home loss to the Buffalo Bills, showing his displeasure with the team's inability to sign holdout running back Emmitt Smith, which contributed to an 0–2 start and put the season in jeopardy.[9] The Cowboys relented and reached an agreement with Smith the following week, getting them back on track and making them the first team to win a Super Bowl after starting a season 0–2. He registered 41 tackles, 4 sacks, 2 passes defensed, and 3 forced fumbles, but his recurring back problems began to require a series of surgeries.
In 1994, Haley recovered from off-season surgery (lumbar microdiscectomy) to post 68 tackles, 12.5 sacks, and 52 quarterback pressures. He immediately announced his retirement after losing 28–38 to the 49ers in the NFC Championship game, but decided to return after being offered a new contract.[10]
In 1995, Haley posted 10.5 sacks, 33 quarterback pressures, and 35 tackles in the first 10 games, until suffering a ruptured disk against the Washington Redskins, which derailed his season. He started in Super Bowl XXX six weeks after having back surgery, making one sack, 3 quarterback pressures and 5 tackles.[11][12] The next year, with the team trying to limit him to 30 plays per game, he appeared in the first three contests, in week 9 and 10, before being deactivated with a back injury.[13] He retired after the season,[14] because of his back injuries and his youngest daughter Brianna having been diagnosed with leukemia.[15]
San Francisco 49ers (second stint)[edit]
On January 2, 1999, Haley was signed by the San Francisco 49ers after being out of football for almost two years, to provide depth for an injury depleted defensive line in the playoffs (2 games).[16] He was re-signed for the 1999 season and tallied 3 sacks.[17]
Career statistics[edit]
In his 12 NFL seasons, Haley recorded 100.5 quarterback sacks, two interceptions (nine return yards), and eight fumble recoveries, which he returned for nine yards and a touchdown. He was also selected to play in five Pro Bowls (1988, 1990, 1991, 1994, 1995) and was named NFL All-Pro in 1990 and 1994. In his first four seasons in Dallas, he was on three Super Bowl-winning teams: in 1992 (XXVII), 1993 (XXVIII), and 1995 (XXX).
Honors[edit]
Haley was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2015 after several years of eligibility. Haley felt that his election may have been delayed by his image and behavior: "I thought that what you do on the field would govern whether you get in the Hall". On August 8, 2015, Haley was inducted at the Enshrinement Ceremony where his bust, sculpted by Scott Myers, was unveiled. He was also inducted into the San Francisco 49ers Hall of Fame in 2015.
Prior to that, Haley was inducted into the Virginia Sports Hall of Fame in 2006, the College Football Hall of Fame in 2011, and the Texas Black Sports Hall of Fame in 2012. He was enshrined into the Dallas Cowboys Ring of Honor on November 6, 2011.[18]
After football, Haley was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and began to undergo therapy and to take medication.[19] Haley was an assistant defensive coach for the Detroit Lions from 2001 to 2002. He is a special advisor mentoring rookies for both the Dallas Cowboys and San Francisco 49ers. He also has dedicated his life to help fund several local initiatives with organizations such as Jubilee Centre and The Salvation Army.
^ Sordelett, Damien (August 8, 2015). "William Campbell football standout Charles Haley to be inducted into Pro Football Hall of Fame". The News & Advance. Lynchburg, Virginia. Retrieved February 19, 2016.
^ Michael, Gary (August 4, 2015). "Charles Haley: JMU Standout to NFL Hall of Famer – Part 1". JMUSports.com. Retrieved February 19, 2016.
^ "Former JMU All-American Haley Elected to College Football Hall of Fame". JMUSports.com. May 27, 2011. Retrieved February 19, 2016.
^ Richards, Charles (August 27, 1992). "Haley traded to Cowboys". The Free Lance–Star. Fredericksburg, Virginia. Associated Press. Retrieved February 19, 2016.
^ "Haley's return to be one of universal wonder". Boca Raton News. Boca Raton, Florida. Associated Press. January 13, 1993. Retrieved February 19, 2016.
^ Archer, Todd (January 30, 2015). "2015 Hall of Fame finalist: Charles Haley". ESPN.com. Retrieved February 19, 2016.
^ "Cowboys in chaos". Times-News. Hendersonville, North Carolina. Associated Press. September 14, 1993. Retrieved February 19, 2016.
^ "Cowboys' Haley Sacks Plans To Retire". The Victoria Advocate. Victoria, Texas. Associated Press. March 8, 1995. Retrieved February 19, 2016.
^ "Cowboys' Haley Retires Again". The Item. Sumter, South Carolina. Associated Press. December 5, 1995. Retrieved February 19, 2016.
^ "Cowboys' Haley ready to return". Spartanburg Herald-Journal. Associated Press. January 24, 1996. Retrieved February 19, 2016.
^ "Cowboys' Haley Faces Surgery Again". Star-Banner. Ocala, Florida. November 15, 1996. Retrieved February 19, 2016.
^ "Dallas Loses Two Greats In Haley And Novacek". Reading Eagle. Reading, Pennsylvania. July 16, 1997. Retrieved February 19, 2016.
^ "Charles Haley trying to find bone marrow donor for daughter". The Argus-Press. Owosso, Michigan. Associated Press. November 16, 1997. Retrieved February 19, 2016.
^ "San Francisco Plans To Bring Charles Haley Back". Boca Raton News. Boca Raton, Florida. January 2, 1999. Retrieved February 19, 2016.
^ "Haley sticks with Niners". The Spokesman-Review. Spokane, Washington. July 22, 1999. Retrieved February 19, 2016.
^ Watkins, Calvin (November 7, 2011). "Drew Pearson, Charles Haley honored". ESPN. Retrieved August 11, 2014.
^ Townsend, Brad (January 3, 2010). "With therapy, grit, ex-Cowboy Haley tackles bipolar disorder". Dallas News. Retrieved May 23, 2017.
Career statistics and player information from Pro-Football-Reference ·
Charles Haley at the Pro Football Hall of Fame
Charles Haley at the College Football Hall of Fame
Charles Haley Cowboys Ring of Honor
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Tim McKyer
Steve Wallace
Kevin Fagan
Don Griffin
Jim Popp
Tony Cherry
Elliston Stinson
Harold Hallman
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4 Max Runager
6 Mike Cofer
8 Steve Young
9 Barry Helton
15 John Paye
16 Joe Montana
20 Tory Nixon
21 Eric Wright
22 Tim McKyer
24 Harry Sydney
25 Doug DuBose
26 Darryl Pollard
29 Don Griffin
31 Chet Brooks
32 Terrence Flagler
33 Roger Craig
35 Del Rodgers
38 Greg Cox
42 Ronnie Lott
44 Tom Rathman
46 Tom Holmoe
49 Jeff Fuller
50 Riki Ellison
51 Randy Cross
53 Bill Romanowski
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55 Jim Fahnhorst
57 Sam Kennedy
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60 Chuck Thomas
61 Jesse Sapolu
62 Guy McIntyre
65 Jeff Bregel
67 Pete Kugler
69 Bruce Collie
72 Jeff Stover
74 Steve Wallace
75 Kevin Fagan
76 Dwaine Board
77 Bubba Paris
78 Pierce Holt
79 Harris Barton
80 Jerry Rice (MVP)
82 John Taylor
83 Terry Greer
84 Brent Jones
85 Mike Wilson
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91 Larry Roberts
92 Kevin Lilly
94 Charles Haley
95 Michael Carter
96 Danny Stubbs
97 Doug Mikolas
99 Michael Walter
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Tommy Hart
Sherman Lewis
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Ray Rhodes
George Seifert
Lynn Stiles
Fred von Appen
San Francisco 49ers Super Bowl XXIV champions
13 Steve Bono
16 Joe Montana (MVP)
23 Spencer Tillman
27 Mike Richardson
30 Keith Henderson
40 Johnnie Jackson
54 Matt Millen
56 Steve Hendrickson
59 Keith DeLong
63 Jim Burt
64 Rollin Putzier
66 Terry Tausch
80 Jerry Rice
81 Jamie Williams
86 Mike Barber
88 Mike Sherrard
89 Wesley Walls
98 Antonio Goss
Head coach: George Seifert
Coaches: Tommy Hart
Al Lavan
Bob Zeman
Dallas Cowboys Super Bowl XXVII champions
2 Lin Elliott
4 Mike Saxon
7 Steve Beuerlein
8 Troy Aikman (MVP)
20 Ray Horton
22 Emmitt Smith
23 Robert Williams
24 Larry Brown
26 Kevin Smith
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66 Kevin Gogan
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70 Dale Hellestrae
71 Mark Tuinei
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75 Tony Casillas
76 Alan Veingrad
77 Jim Jeffcoat
78 Leon Lett
79 Erik Williams
80 Alvin Harper
81 Alexander Wright
82 Jimmy Smith
83 Kelvin Martin
84 Jay Novacek
87 Alfredo Roberts
88 Michael Irvin
89 Derek Tennell
90 Tony Hill
92 Tony Tolbert
95 Chad Hennings
97 Jimmie Jones
98 Godfrey Myles
99 Greg Briggs
Head coach: Jimmy Johnson
Coaches: Hubbard Alexander
Joe Avezzano
Joe Brodsky
Dave Campo
Butch Davis
Bob Slowik
Norv Turner
Dave Wannstedt
Tony Wise
Dallas Cowboys Super Bowl XXVIII champions
3 Eddie Murray
8 Troy Aikman
17 Jason Garrett
18 Bernie Kosar
19 John Jett
22 Emmitt Smith (MVP)
25 Derrick Lassic
31 Brock Marion
38 Chris Hall
41 Dave Thomas
43 Elvis Patterson
44 Lincoln Coleman
46 Joe Fishback
56 John Roper
59 Darrin Smith
62 James Parrish
65 Ron Stone
81 Tim Daniel
83 Joey Mickey
85 Kevin Williams
86 Tyrone Williams
89 Scott Galbraith
89 Jim Price
89 Kelly Blackwell
91 Matt Vanderbeek
Jim Eddy
Hudson Houck
Dallas Cowboys Super Bowl XXX champions
10 Jon Baker
11 Wade Wilson
18 Chris Boniol
20 Sherman Williams
21 Deion Sanders
23 Robert Bailey
24 Larry Brown (MVP)
25 Scott Case
27 Greg Tremble
29 Alundis Brice
36 Dominique Ross
38 David Lang
42 Charlie Williams
52 Jim Schwantz
53 Ray Donaldson
54 Darryl Hardy
54 Anthony Fieldings
56 Reggie Barnes
60 Derek Kennard
68 Michael Batiste
69 George Hegamin
73 Larry Allen
81 Ed Hervey
82 Cory Fleming
83 Kendell Watkins
86 Eric Bjornson
87 Billy Davis
90 Oscar Sturgis
91 Darren Benson
96 Shante Carver
99 Hurvin McCormack
Head coach: Barry Switzer
Craig Boller
Ernie Zampese
Mike Zimmer
100 sacks club
Bruce Smith
Kevin Greene
Julius Peppers
Chris Doleman
Richard Dent
John Randle
Leslie O'Neal
Terrell Suggs
Rickey Jackson
Derrick Thomas
Dwight Freeney
Robert Mathis
Simeon Rice
Clyde Simmons
Greg Townsend
Pat Swilling
Trace Armstrong
Jim Jeffcoat
William Fuller
Andre Tippett
Italics denotes active player
Don Perkins
Lee Roy Jordan
Cliff Harris
Drew Pearson
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Bill Polian
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Wide receivers /
Badgro
Halas
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Pihos
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Stallworth
C. Taylor
Mackey
Newsome
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Tunnell
Wehrli
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Placekickers
and punters
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D. Rooney
Sabol
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Italics denotes players who have been voted in but not yet inducted.
SNAC: w67z0h70
Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charles_Haley&oldid=891990868"
African-American players of American football
American football defensive ends
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NFL player missing current team parameter


On the 14th March 2019 People Management reported that Chancellor of the exchequer Philip Hammond has brought forward changes to apprenticeship funding designed to help small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) invest in apprenticeships.
These changes will now take place from April 2019, less than a month away.
To read the full article and comments from the Chancellor and head of skills at the Chambers of Commerce visit People Management website.


Sophie and Leo are good friends of mine, and I was delighted to be asked to photograph their little family. Their son Bertie is my son's age. We walked around the park stopping now and then for a few shots. I was really pleased with the lovely natural photos I got of this lovely family. And even a bit of rain didn't stop us. What great sports they were. Thanks you guys. I hope you like the photos as much as I do.


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Q: How to get/see output of Lua lisner when executing script with Tshark I am new to Lua, I want Certificates data So I run below Lua Lisner code:
do
   local file = assert(io.open('data.txt','wb'))
   tap = Listener.new(nil, "ssl.handshake.certificate");
   Cert_info = Field.new("ssl.handshake.certificate");
   function tap.packet(pinfo, buffer, userdata)
     local cert = Cert_info();
     print("hi".. cert )
     file:write(cert.value);
   end
end

Using Command> tshark -r sslcert.pcap -X lua_script:certinfo.lua
but I didn't get any output on console screen and in file too.
It just display all packets in sslcert.pcap file
Please Help me to see what info (cert.value) writes in file.


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Google's Plan To Make Chrome Less Resource Hungry In Windows 10 Starts With Version 87
A lower consumption that translates into greater autonomy, achieving the equipment more than 1 hour of extra battery.
Tab throttling and more performance improvements in Chrome M87
Google is about to release version 87 of its Chrome browser (in my case I just checked and I am still on version 86). An update that together with general improvements provides a series of tools that will allow Windows 10 computers to not consume so many resources .
Traditionally, Chrome has been classified as a gluttonous browser in terms of resource consumption, especially when we use several tabs open at the same time. And now that the competition with the new Edge is getting more than interesting , Chrome version 87 arrives .
Up to one more hour of battery life
An important update, because not in vain we are facing the most important update in the recent history of Chrome, something that is reflected in all the news that is detailed in the Chromium blog .
Google has introduced a new set of features in Chrome 87 with the aim of reducing memory and CPU consumption significantly with the aim of making the browser faster on Windows-based devices.
To achieve this, Chrome will prioritize the tabs that we have active compared to the rest of the open elements, a tool that they claim will reduce CPU use by about five times. This measure is reflected in a faster loading of the pages (7% more) and a 25% faster startup of Chrome. And all, consuming much less resources , be it RAM and energy.
There is also a tool that seeks to limit the consumption of the tabs in the background in ways that will see how a reduction in their consumption is forced to a maximum of 1% of the CPU after being inactive for more than five minutes. The webs will be able to establish calls to "wake up" to the tabs once a minute to update them.
But they are not the only improvements that we will see in Chrome. Now the usability of the tabs is improved, as Chrome has more options to organize the tabs , with a search engine in the toolbox and with the possibility of pinning, grouping or sharing with other people. The bad news is that the tab finder will arrive earlier on Chrome OS and we will have to wait to see it on other operating systems.
In addition, Chrome launches a series of internal controls to make video calls with webcam. The controls now arrive natively and offer access to a control that, although basic, allows us not to have to depend on third-party applications.
On the other hand, Chrome 87 renews the native PDF file reader . Now it has a sidebar that offers access to a preview of all the pages that the document has, similar to the PDF preview in macOS. In addition, the buttons to control the zoom have been brought to the top of the tab, where there will also be options to rotate and fit the document to the page.
Chrome's improvements also include the arrival of more options on the toolbar and, for example, you can edit passwords or delete history without having to leave the aforementioned bar.
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Restaurants and businesses in the food preparation industry can be hard on roofing material. Over 80% of food industry facilities have roof deterioration due to exhaust fans discharging on the roof.
We've talked about solar roof tiles in the past, but the technology continues to improve, so we wanted to let you know about the new innovations.
Since the beginning of time, humans have been looking for ways to keep the rain off our heads. We've used a multitude of materials, with relative success. And yet, no matter how advanced we become, Mother Nature always has surprises for us.
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Although she just moved here last fall from the West Coast, Dr. Phoebe Ashley quickly learned something about her patients at MCV Physicians at Ridgefield: They really like the office's convenience.
"Many of our patients are quite elderly, and being able to travel to a nearby location, with easy parking, is very appealing to them," says Dr. Ashley, a cardiologist and former medical director of the Oregon Heart and Vascular Institute's Cardiovascular Wellness and Rehabilitation Center and the St. Peter's Rehabilitation Center in the state of Washington.
Located in an attractive brick building in Richmond's West End, MCV Physicians at Ridgefield is close to many neighborhoods and assisted living communities. The suburban cardiology practice, which opened in August 2014, is the latest venture by the VCU Pauley Heart Center to expand its physical presence beyond the parameters of downtown to areas where many of its patients live.
In addition to Ridgefield, the heart center offers outreach cardiology services at Stony Point, Williamsburg and South Hill, says Jalana McCasland, vice president of Ambulatory Services for VCU Medical Center. The first standalone facility, Stony Point, opened in October 1993. "We have about 4,546 adult cardiology patient visits each year at our outreach centers—and that number is growing," she says.
Originally from Tehran, Dr. Markley received her medical degree at the Medical College of Georgia, served her internship and residency in internal medicine at VCU and completed her fellowship in cardiovascular medicine at Vanderbilt University.
Dr. Ashley, a Eureka, California, native, received her M.D. from the Medical College of Wisconsin, where she also conducted her internal medicine residency. She completed her cardiovascular fellowship at University of New Mexico Health Sciences Center.
Lori Edwards sits on an examining room table at the Ridgefield office, dressed in stylish athletic clothing and tennis shoes. At 44, the school clinic assistant is the picture of health. But then she pulls out her iPhone and, gliding her finger over the screen, reveals another picture of herself from last December, in a hospital bed.
Fortunately, her family was not injured in the wreck, and Edwards received CPR and AED treatment from several people who stopped to help. After receiving initial treatment at Sentara Williamsburg Regional Medical Center, she was flown by helicopter to VCU Medical Center, where she remained for 18 days.
The doctor helped Edwards make necessary changes in her life, following her discharge—including cardiac rehabilitation, stress reduction and the movement toward a low-sodium, more plant-based diet. The mother of two also takes medication and wears an external defibrillator known as a Life Vest. When she first came home from the hospital, she could barely walk to the mailbox. Now, she can walk 1 ½ miles.
"It's important to not be an isolated outpatient cardiologist. I have a whole group of colleagues who I can call upon to say, 'You know, what about this? What would you do for this?' It's really nice to have that," she says.
Dr. Ashley is sitting in an office with several other cardiologists. On her computer screen is a moving black-and-white image of a beating heart. This full-study echo—involving about 80-120 images—was taken during a patient's stress test. With her computer mouse, she clicks through the images, occasionally freezing the screen to take a measurement. With the echo's 3-D capability, she is able to move around the heart, to see it from many angles.
On busy days, she and another cardiologist may read 50-60 of these studies, involving a great variety of cases.
More expansions are in the works for Ridgefield and other neighborhood clinics, says McClasland, VCU's vice president of Ambulatory Services. VCU hopes to add an evening clinic at Ridgefield, and possibly add new services such as stress tests, electrophysiology testing and device management.
TOP: DR. ROSHANAK MARKLEY AND DR. PHOEBE ASHLEY / ABOVE RIGHT: DR. ASHLEY IN THE NEW RIDGEFIELD OFFICE. / ABOVE LEFT: DR. MARKLEY'S PATIENT LORI EDWARDS RECEIVES GOOD NEWS ON HER ECHO; LAST DECEMBER, SHE WENT INTO CARDIAC ARREST WHILE DRIVING.


Our family had looked forward to Sky Ranch's 25th Anniversary Banquet for many months. The move to the East Texas location had proved to be a good one. It was at this banquet the announcement was to be made that Gladys Lankford was giving a chapel for Sky Ranch.
On August 3 I was asked to resign, and was told that Sally Jo and I should not plan on attending the banquet. Soon after I resigned, Glad told Sky Ranch she was no longer interested in giving a chapel.
As August 22 approached, Carla and Jenna asked if they could attend the banquet. They knew that Sally Jo and I had been asked not to attend, but no one said they could not go. They knew many of their staff and camper friends would be there. Our kids loved Sky Ranch and left our home with great anticipation. They returned home several hours later, truly in shock. Sally Jo and I had never been mentioned during the entire evening – seven years of our lives passed over as if we never existed.
Carla's response to the evening was: "Dad, if Christians would do this to you, they would do anything to anybody". I had to agree.
I can quote "Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you." — I Peter 5:7. I believed God cared for me, for my family – that heaven will be fair – but this did not remove the pain of the now!
I can work at "Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus." — Philippians 4:13-14. But working at this though I did, bewilderment continued!
King David wrote: "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, so far from the words of my groaning? O my God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer, by night, and am not silent…I am a worm and not a man, scorned by men and despised by the people. All who see me mock me; they hurl insults, shaking their heads: 'He trusts in the LORD; let the LORD rescue him. Let him deliver him, since he delights in him'". These words from Psalm 22 also expressed the ache of Jesus on the cross.
It was six months before I could see, that whereas some people meant what happened for evil, God meant it for good! Living In Partnership With God is hard work, because it requires faith, sometimes a blind, struggling faith, while the world beats us up. We should not hesitate to cry out as did the father of the demon filled son "I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief!" — Mark 9:24.


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IK – math notation Now let's take the derivative of y. Which is the sum of the partials of each parameter. 6 6 5 5 4 4 3 3 2 2 1 1 x x f x x f x x f x x f x x f x x f y i i i i i i i ∂ ∂ ∂ + ∂ ∂ ∂ + ∂ ∂ ∂ + ∂ ∂ ∂ + ∂ ∂ ∂ + ∂ ∂ ∂ = ∂ X X F Y ∂ ∂ ∂ = ∂ And we can represent that using vectors and matrices too. This matrix is called the Jacobian. Each entry in the Jacobian describes how one functions changes wrt 1 variable What are the dimensions of the Jacobian?
Solving for Change X X F Y ∂ ∂ ∂ = ∂ That's the general equation, rewrite with Jacobian written as J. X X J Y  ) ( = ∂ And X with a dot on it means "the first derivative of X" So the change in Y is the matrix which describes the rate of change of each function wrt X times the rate of change of X.


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Gareth Bale Should Be Real Madrid's Hero – He Chooses to Be a Dispassionate Professional Instead
28th November 2019 by andym
It is an open secret that the relationship between Welsh midfielder Gareth Bale and Real Madrid is not ideal. The player still counts as an outsider six years after signing with the Madrid club, and his attitude and commitment – or better said the lack of it – have attracted a lot of criticism toward the player. His latest stunt – flying a flag that read "Wales, Golf, Madrid, in that order" after the team's victory over Hungary, added fuel to the fire. The flag can easily be considered an act of open defiance, pointing a finger on the complicated relationship between the player and the team.
He could be a hero…
If we consider his actions on the turf, Gareth Bale has ticked every box to become Real's hero – and a fan favourite. While his injuries didn't allow him to constantly give his best to the team, his over 230 matches, 100+ goals, and more than 60 assists are still a very impressive performance. Since he joined Real Madrid in 2013, he won everything worth winning with the team, ranging from Champions League trophies to Club World Cup medals. When he stepped in the playfield, everyone from veterans to new recommended bookmakers could confidently bend the odds in Real's favour. Even though Cristiano Ronaldo was the de facto leader of the team, Bale contributed with important assists and goals to its success – including his legendary bicycle kick goal against Liverpool in last year's UEFA Champions League final.
… but he chose to be a professional instead
It wasn't enthusiasm that brought Bale to Real Madrid – it was the betterment of his career. He wanted to win trophies, and his chances of doing so were much better in Spain than in England. He left Tottenham in a then-world-record-breaking transfer, beating Ronaldo in this area. He played excellent football, he became an asset for the Spanish team, he won trophies – but he never became a true part of Real Madrid, remaining a dispassionate professional.
Would it be better for Bale to leave?
Earlier this year, Real Madrid manager Zinedine Zidane told the press that it would be in the best interest of both the club and Bale to part their ways. This could be a problem, though, considering Bale's salary expectations, age, and buyout clause. He has proven a valuable player for the club this year, even though he missed as many matches as he played (6). To add insult to injury, he didn't play for Real since October when, playing for the Welsh national team, he suffered a calf injury that prevented him from training with Real's first team – and he also said that he enjoys playing with the Welsh team much more. Apparently, he also enjoys playing golf much more than playing for Real Madrid.
Founder and chief editor of La Liga Blog, Andy fell in love with Spanish football after a university placement year in the Costa Del Sol. His favourite Tapas is Albondigas and on Saturday afternoons, Andy can regularly be found trying to emulate his hero Carles Puyol for his amateur football team.
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Can Electric Zoo Bounce Back After Tragedy?
Zedd performs at Electric Zoo 2014 on Randall's Island, New York City.
Still scarred by two deaths in 2013, the EDM festival looks to recapture fans with an immersive Euro-style makeover.
Just two years ago, Electric Zoo was the Northeast's premiere EDM festival, drawing 150,000 fans to New York's Randall's Island during Labor Day weekend with some of the biggest DJs in the world, including Avicii, Tiesto and Bassnectar, on two massive main stages. But after two attendees died from drug overdoses, escalating an already alarmed public reaction to the EDM festival scene, the 2014 edition consequently felt borderline Orwellian: Organizers required attendees to watch drug PSAs before ordering tickets, security checks (complete with mandatory shoe removal) resulted in three-hour-long waits for entry while police and drug-sniffing dogs patrolled the grounds, and on the final day, a severe thunderstorm caused organizers to shut down the festival six hours early.
So how does the festival bounce back? "You start over," says Jeff Wright, creative director for Made Event, which has produced the festival for seven years and was bought by SFX in November 2013. "We stumbled in 2014, admittedly, so we said, 'Let's rebuild this from the ground up.'"
For the 2015 Electric Zoo -- again taking place Labor Day weekend -- Made partnered with Dutch promoter ID&T, which produces some of the world's biggest EDM festivals, including Tomorrowland, the decade-old fest that draws more than 400,000 fans to a Disney theme park in Belgium. After SFX's chief executive Robert Sillerman bought ID&T in 2013 for an estimated $130 million, the brand's longtime creative director, Jeroen Jansen, moved to New York to launch TomorrowWorld near Atlanta, Mysteryland in upstate New York and the white-wardrobe-themed Sensation in Brooklyn.
"You can't just put a DJ in front of an LED screen," says Jansen. "You need storytelling -- from the minute you start your ticketing campaign to the grounds themselves."
Electric Zoo is arguably his biggest undertaking to date. Now renamed Electric Zoo: Transformed, the festival resembles other ID&T events -- immersive and otherworldy, with a zoo theme, naturally enough -- without simply repeating the Tomorrowland formula. Many of the suggested improvements came from Zoo attendees who participated in surveys issued after the 2014 event. "We got essays," says Made marketing chief Michael Julian. In addition to a themed experience, fans asked for more restrooms (which will be increased by 30 percent) and faster entry lines (the entrance will be expanded).
Wright's designs for the festival, viewed by Billboard in March, resemble a pop-up theme park: a main stage inspired by a winged phoenix, elephant-shaped topiaries and an octopus-like circular stage. While the designs were not final and many budget-related questions remain, at press time, ticket sales were up 30 percent ahead of 2014, according to Jacob Smid, SFX's managing director in North America.
"Europeans have always done festivals right," says Wright. "But this isn't our first rodeo."
This article first appeared in the May 16 issue of Billboard.


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Disable / Drop Index
In my opinion, disable, enable is a better option, purely from maintenance point of view. There is not much a difference between two operations, apart from the fact that disable/enable (rebuild) stores the index metadata. This also means that the changes to the index definition, if any, are kept in one place.
With drop/create you have to make sure that any changes are applied in many places, metadata and all relevant sprocs.


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Media|Now to Sell Advertisers on Tablets
Now to Sell Advertisers on Tablets
THE MEDIA EQUATION MAY 8, 2011
If you wanted to get your message in front of a reader of The New Yorker, it would cost you $141,174 for a full-page ad in the magazine's glossy pages.
What would it be worth to reach the same reader if he or she were on an iPad? More, less or the same?
That is the one very pertinent question after an active week in magazine publishers' fitful effort to be part of, rather than run over by, the digital revolution. Hearst Magazines struck a deal to sell three of its magazines — Esquire, Popular Mechanics and O, the Oprah Magazine — for the iPad, using Apple's subscription model, beginning in July. Hearst is the first major publisher to agree to sell multiple magazines in the app store.
The Hearst announcement comes on the heels of word that Time Inc.negotiated an agreement with Apple in which subscribers to Sports Illustrated, Time and Fortune would be able to read their magazines on the iPad free as long as they verified their identity. (Both deals were first reported in The Wall Street Journal.) And there are indications that Condé Nast, the third part of the triumvirate, will actually be the first to market among major publishers with iPad subscriptions to some of its bigger magazines.
The deals represent a significant thaw between the technologists in Cupertino, Calif., and the mandarins of Manhattan publishing. According to the publisher in each of those discussions, Apple, which has a reputation for setting unilateral terms, demonstrated some degree of flexibility around pricing, terms and custody of data.
And that incremental progress is on top of a decision in March from the Audit Bureau of Circulations that each of those digital subscriptions will count toward the all-important rate base — the number of copies used to sell advertising — even if the electronic version is not precisely identical to the print edition.
Anybody in publishing will tell you that the prices they can charge advertisers for print (and now tablet) subscribers are far above the commodity pricing that rules on Web-based content. As more and more magazines end up in people's laps, backlighted and without a mailing label, it's a huge win for magazines, right?
Not so fast, said Robin Steinberg, executive vice president and director of publishing investment and activation for MediaVest. She helps giants like Kraft and Wal-Mart make ad-buying decisions. Ms. Steinberg sent a pre-emptive letter to publishers on April 29 suggesting that she and her clients would not simply go along with the assumption that a digital subscriber should count the same as a paper one.
Although she is on the Audit Bureau board and voted in favor of the changes, Ms. Steinberg made it clear that she wanted her clients to have the flexibility to opt in and out of digital editions. In a tart reminder that these are the early days of the process, she wrote that for media buyers, it was "critical that we determine how copies are qualified and counted when served either traditionally or digitally."
In other words, if her clients want to buy apples, they will buy apples (print subscribers) and if they are in the mood for oranges (digital subscribers) they expect to make a separate and presumably lower-cost purchase. And she stressed that buyers were keeping a close eye on digital subscriptions to make sure that they did not become the electronic equivalent of a New Jersey landfill, a place where unwanted copies were dumped to make the numbers look good.
Ms. Steinberg's letter was a signal that the Audit Bureau ruling was the beginning of that negotiation, not the end, and publishers had best be transparent about their circulation figures.
"Publishers are most comfortable with traditional metrics because their business models have been structured around these data points for years," she said. "There is an increasing need to evolve and reinvent archaic practices into modern approaches, delivering and reporting audience- and engagement-based measurement."
She also suggested that simply replicating the existing print ads and editorial experience in pixels represented a failure of imagination and adaptation. "Delivering the right creative experience is key. Consumers demand and expect something very different from these devices," she added
For their part, publishers are pleased by the decision from the Audit Bureau and are happy to share numbers to make buyers comfortable. That is, as soon as those numbers come in from a business in its infancy.
"We all want to be transparent with our advertising partners but our systems must be in place and tested to ensure we are telling the right story," said Robert A. Sauerberg Jr., president of Condé Nast, adding, "We will have more information soon, and we feel really good about the emerging picture."
Getting the kind of data that will satisfy skeptical buyers like Ms. Steinberg will be no small thing. Apple, the clear leader in tablet publishing, has been and will continue to be hesitant about sharing consumer behavior on its device. And no one knows enough about the habits of app readers to say conclusively how engaged they are while browsing through a digital magazine.
Now that tablets are a genuine revolution and not just a notion, publishers are beginning to entertain hopes that digital readers will be a sturdy enough platform to build a future with. But there has to be good economics in addition to abundant eyeballs. So far for traditional media companies — newspapers come to mind here — the Web has been a great place to find audiences and a rotten place to do business. The music industry has become a digital Dollar Store and the lucrative ad rates for television fall apart when the viewer is using a mouse instead of a remote.
Still, publishers are pretty confident that once they have some experience and competence on all kinds of platforms — iPad, Android and the Nook (which has been a big stealth seller of magazines, especially women's magazines) — that they will be able to show advertisers that a magazine is a magazine, even when it arrives wirelessly.
"While it's still early days on distribution models, our research has shown that reader engagement levels for digital subscriptions are terrific, with time spent reading at very high levels," said David Carey, president of Hearst Magazines.
It is, at bottom, all a negotiation. Publishers would like to hold onto the lucrative aspects of their current business while taking advantage of the new lower cost of operating in a circulation world that is not hostage to buying a good position on the grocery store checkout line. But while magazine delivery may increasingly become a friction-free experience, meeting the expectations of both advertisers and readers in that new world will be anything but.
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A version of this article appears in print on May 9, 2011, on Page B1 of the New York edition with the headline: Now to Sell Advertisers On Tablets. Order Reprints| Today's Paper|Subscribe
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