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03 February 2011 @ 11:29 pm
2.13 - 'Daddy Issues' (The Vampire Diaries)
New episode of The Vampire Diaries, yay. Happy, happy, joy, joy!
Okay, the short version of tonight's review of The Vampire Diaries is as follows:
SQUEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ahem. Now the long version. First of all, I'm wondering with all of the filming delays they had, if "The Descent" was supposed to be the mid-season finale. Because as opposed to the one Rose cliffhanger (which not many cared that much about), "The Descent" had John showing up, Tyler finding out about other vampires/Mason's death, and, of course, Damon's return to the dark side. And then this episode played out so much more like the return from hiatus episodes play which is boom!boom!boom! keep-'em-coming. I dunno, but it makes a lot of sense in my opinion.
Anyhoo, about tonight's episode. Lordy, I don't even know where to start!
Okay, let's start with the most important thing. "Daddy Issues" set a precedent that should be followed from here on out. Every episode should begin and end with a naked Ian Somerhalder. Yes, this is simply a must. Uh huh. ;) They did make one mistake, though. The stupid credits ran over naked Damon in the shower. Not cool. For that? The credits should have waited until he was dressed or it had moved onto another scene. Although, I am grateful for the naked Damon, and the Damon not fully having his towel wrapped around his naked body when he walked out, and the low position of said towel. Grateful and pleased.
Hee! Okay, seriously (no, wait, I was serious, that would be totally awesome to begin/end episodes with naked Ian!), the bounty of such unexpected Damon/Elena stuff was fantastic! And not just bounty, but some very, very interesting undercurrents that I can't help but believe promise good things for us shippers to come. I had posted a snippet from a Nina Dobrev interview where she essentially said that Elena wouldn't care about Damon and Andie Starr!Action News!, but either she was lying or had completely forgotten this scene, LOL! Elena was so very much aware of the fact that another female was hitting on Damon. I'm not saying that she was jealous, because (a) there was really nothing to be jealous of there, and (b) it is too soon. However, she was aware and she didn't look particularly pleased. And then when Damon came over and said he was swearing off women for a while which was good for women everywhere, he just looked at her for a moment too long, their gazes locked and it was just one of a few charged moments of awareness that we got in this episode, followed swiftly by a millisecond of, well, not quite guilt, but not that too removed from that emotion on Elena's part as she quickly looked away.
And that was the third of four pretty durn awesome scenes we had with them tonight! Including the first two which had such fun, yet (yup!) charged undertones. Leading into the last which was A-W-E-S-O-M-E! Seriously awesome. Her hand on his arm, their eyes locked, him telling her to stop. And she reacts by dropping her hand, and then him telling her to stop expecting him to do the right thing because she is the one asking. Gah! Then she goes ahead and does it anyway and you so know, you just sooooo know that the more she asks him, the harder it becomes for him to not do it. And direct, specific requests? Heck, I don't think he can even begin to resist those. And then Uncle-Daddy John bursts in in all protective mode with "what's going on here?" And, woohoo!, we got our most charged Elena/dropping eyes moment as she said "nothing" and John even called her out on it that it didn't look like nothing. Uh huh. Tension so thick between those two you could cut it with a knife. Helped considerably by the fact that Damon took forever to take his eyes off of Elena; it's like he physically could not for a few seconds there. Ooh! so hot.
Oh, and when talking to John later, she tells him that she still hasn't forgiven him for what he did to Stefan *and Damon.* Woo to the hoo! Oh, yeah, baby!
Speaking of forgiveness, yeah, clearly Elena has pretty much completely forgiven Damon. All touchy-feely, all laying the smackdown on others (okay, other, ie. John) for hurting Damon, believing the better man is there inside of Damon. Aww, just warms the cockles of my shipper-loving heart. ♥
Now, that final scene with Damon and Andie. Wow, that played out so much differently than I was expecting. It started out sexy with the kissing and the bubbles and all that, but even the tone of dialogue was so lightweight and casual. Then came Damon's confessional. I admit when I heard that Damon was going to be using Andie as sort of a therapist for discussion of his feelings, etc., I told myself to expect it would be about the bigger picture with only a slight possibility of an Elena reference, and I was fine with that. But having so much of it boil down to Elena, having Damon flat-out say, you're a distraction (and Andie being like 'yeah, cool, I'll be your booty call, you're hot!' was amusing*) just made my shipper heart do the happy dance.
* Yeah, totally the actress. When Rose pretty much offered up the same arrangement (with the main difference -- okay, other than being a vampire -- being that she knew who Damon was in love with), it just came across as, I dunno, kinda, yeah, okay, and why? Just kinda needy, I guess. But with Andie, it came across as cool and casual. I thought I remembered liking this actress (Dawn Olivieri) from her brief role on True Blood, and I was right because I certainly liked her here. She hit so many great notes in this scene, all varied and right on target. The fun, casual flirtiness in the beginning, followed by the wry acceptance of the "good" ones being taken (hah!), and then when Damon casually mentioned that he killed people, man, she was spot on. There was this flash on her face of clearly waiting for the joke, and then when it didn't come, the fear and near immobilization before she finally began backing away ... and then he compelled her. And she just kept on going, back to casual, with just a slight dazedness to her tone. But she was thinking, not some mindless automaton as she offered up the idea that this is the man that Damon is now, because love changes people.
Yeah, I really liked the actress.
Going back to my original statement about how different I expected the scene to play out, I thought it would be sexy, a little funny probably with Damon confessing or heartbreaking along the lines of the final scene in last week's episode, but nope. It was flat-out creepy! When Damon said he liked to kill people, it was in his nature, who he was, it was just creepy as he's sitting there in a bubble bath, drinking wine. Finally, shutting her up when she made a statement that he didn't like (rather reminded me of him telling Caroline to stop talking when she commented that Stefan and Elena were so cute together in "Family Ties"), going for the distraction ... and then the bite. Seeing all of that gushing blood down her back, yeah, it was definitely supposed to be creepy. Job well done, show. :shivers:
One thing I did find very interesting was how Damon just blew off the idea of the other guy being the problem. And Damon clearly wasn't putting on a show or deflecting here, that much was evident by all he said. (Remember, other than the compulsion moment where he had to say it once in "Rose," he has never admitted aloud to anyone that he's in love with Elena, but he did so here with no qualm because he'd clearly made the decision to either (a) compel her or (b) kill her). So, if Damon was being completely honest, then it's quite interesting that he doesn't consider Stefan a reason at all as to why he can't be with Elena. And, honestly, judging at how quickly Elena forgave him, and all of those charged moments between them, I can't really say I blame him. He's never actually tried to woo/seduce/win her over, etc., and it's obvious based on enough statements from him and others, that he's had plenty of experience with women and he knows just how irresistible he can be. (And, come on, he looks *just* like Ian Somerhalder. Definitely a plus there.)
I did like that we're continuing to get such an awesome exploration of Damon's existential crisis. His constant reminders to everyone (Stefan, Elena, John) that he's a "good guy" now. Oh, Damon, you're so fucked up right now. Sooo fucked up.
What's also fucked up? How so completely in the dark poor Jenna is. When she told Alaric that she couldn't see how anyone could keep a secret like that (Uncle John is Daddy John), I just shook my head. Oh, Jenna, you have no idea. And while we may have not had much of him (sniff, sniff), Matt Davis really delivered with his reaction shots to her in that scene. You could feel his pain for keeping her so in the dark. She really has no clue.
Just like Matty-boy. Oh, such a cliche of Caroline telling him she was hanging with the one person who was in his eyeline. Oh, Caroline. Oh, Matt. I'm still mad at him for how he treated Caroline post-accident, but I can't help but feel for him because (like Jenna), he just has absolutely no clue how fucked up this whole thing is.
And fucked up, it is! Man, oh, man, that werewolf/vampire showdown was AWESOME! SO FRICKING AWESOME! Best part, hands down one of THE coolest moments on the show so far was when random werewolf comes flying off the roof, and Damon rips his heart out mid-flight. Werewolf comes crashing down, Damon stands there with bloody heart in hand. So disgustingly bad-ass! I LOVED IT! Stefan got some good knocks in as well, I called out a few 'go, Stefan!'s. Oh, yes, I did! The whole thing was just splendidly done. And a couple of random funnies (courtesy of Damon): who killed Mason? Damon speaks up right away: "Uh, that'd be me," pointing to himself. Hee. And then in a 'we got this' undertone to Stefan, "we can take 'em." Hah!
I almost didn't even have time to lament poor Caroline's torture because so much was happening, but lament I did. Several 'poor Caroline!'s escaped me too. Shot in the head, in the chest, toothpicks shot into her neck, vervain sprayed at her. Oh, Caroline! And boo to you, Tyler! I don't know, I'm really beginning to think that at the end of the day, Tyler's gonna be a bad guy. This is Caroline, a girl he's known his ENTIRE LIFE!, a girl who he just found out risked her life to comfort him through the change, a girl who's been there for him at a time when he desperately, desperately needed it and he just stands there? Doesn't fight? Finds her in LOCKED IN A FRIGGIN' CAGE! and waited a few seconds too many (in my opinion) before letting her out? Yeah, that was a bit much. And I completely understand Caroline's rage, but I couldn't help but think that it was not the bestest move ever. Because, of course, it sent him flying right back into the arms of his werewolf brethren. Uh huh.
Speaking of the werewolves. I actually really like what they're doing with Jules, and I do think that Michaela McManus is doing a good job because I honestly think that we are supposed to want that bitch to die in a fire. Yeah. Who should also die in a fire is Brady, but, but, but, he's so hot, it can wait a bit, right?
Back to Caroline, I loved her after-reaction not just to Tyler when he showed up, but how she handled herself with talking to Stefan. Some really lovely dialogue, and subtle acting from Candice Accola there. And, of course, I also so loved all the stuff with Stefan and Caroline we got -- it seems so long since we've had stuff with them! How he was all in uber-protective mode over her when he found out Jules had her, something we've ever only seen with regards to Damon and Elena. But now Caroline is included. Awww! And walking her home, their scene at the door, "you don't have to pretend with me," Aww! My shipper heart just went pitter-pat. I'm sorry, I just don't think that Accola and Michael Trevino have even a tenth of the chemistry that she and Paul Wesley do. They are just uberly delightful together, so good, they're sparkly and adorable and make me smile.
And on a totally shallow note, oh my God, Paul Wesley looked SO GOOD in this episode. Soo good! And on a non-shallow note, so the whole theory that Stefan's assy ways last week was the human-blood drinking come to the fore in small ways was pretty much disproven in this episode. He's totally back to being Saint Stefan. Ah well. Twas a good theory.
Finally (in the non-random thoughts section), whoah, John and Katherine? Uhm, didn't she cut off his fingers? Sure seems like he's forgiven her handily (haha, I amuse myself). Well, considering how easily Elena has forgiven Damon for snapping Jeremy's neck, I'd say like father, like daughter? Seriously, I was not expecting John to show up, and for a second, I thought they might kiss, which was followed by 'Ew! Gross! She looks like his daughter.' And then I thought, wow, that gives a whole new meaning to the title, "Daddy Issues." But they didn't go there.
At least not yet.
Still, very interesting how Katherine, Isobel and John do all seem to be working together. And I like that it's bringing back that bit of information we got in "Isobel," when she told Damon she was sent by Katherine. It also means that just because John didn't know that Pearl was Katherine's best friend, doesn't mean he didn't really know Katherine, just that Katherine didn't tell him about Pearl -- which isn't really a surprise. And I did really like how once again we see that Damon and Elena are on the same page in not trusting John at all, while Stefan is more believing of it ... and it looks like Damon and Elena are right. But, of course, with this show, you never know.
Phew! Okay, random thoughts ...
- You know that an episode is COMPLETELY awesome when there are only two things you don't like, and they're both utterly nit-picky or small things. The first? Damon's in the shower, all hot and naked and wet and naked and wet and, sorry, where was I? Right. Damon. Shower. Naked. Wet. Ahem. Five seconds later, he walks into his bedroom and, lo and behold, his hair is dry. Come on. Or is that some new vampire benefit? Their hair dries in a matter of seconds! Maybe he shook his head really, really, vampire-fast in those few seconds before grabbing a towel? Yeah, that's the ticket!
- Ah, so Damon (and likely Caroline) is drinking the vervain too. Nice, I really like that, and I liked how they casually, believably got that information out there as a follow-up to Stefan's vervain-diet reveal last week.
- Hah! Damon's, "watch out, Stefan, I might get a hero hairdo of my own and steal your thunder," cracked me up so much! "Hero hairdo." HEE!
- They only had two scenes and didn't even speak in one of them, but Jeremy and Bonnie were adorable!
- Katherine's looking not dessicated at all, so I've decided that she heard someone walking by the tomb above ground, screamed for help, and some random innocent came down. Katherine drank some blood, and compelled said person to keep coming back for more on a regular basis.
- The alternate title for this episode? "Everybody Hates John."
- That was such a wonderful scene between John and Elena with the giving of the charm bracelet (although now I'm wondering if there's some goobley-gook magic connected to it) and her real parents, but I was slightly pulled out of it for a very silly reason, LOL! There's been much talk of Ian Somerhalder and his gift for the perfect, single tear threatening Jensen Ackles' holding of that title. Well, towards the end of the scene, a perfect, single tear ran down one of Elena's cheek and I couldn't help but wonder if Nina Dobrev was going for the female title? LMAO!
- Speaking of tears. Grr, Stefan/Elena. I was thisclose to tearing up when Elena and Bonnie showed up at Caroline (at Stefan's behest because he knows what Caroline needs best, awww!) and they talked about doing a slumber party and they all hugged and it was awesome and great. And then stupid Elena had to go and look at Stefan and they did the whole 'I love you' thing and it was just NOT the right moment, show! This was about the girls! Their friendship. Their love! Stupid Stefan/Elena. Although, I will say I do get why the Stefan/Elena base are getting some good stuff in the next episode considering that this episode and the one before had barely any Stefan/Elena interaction, and was chockful of meaningful Damon/Elena stuffies. See? I can be fair, LOL!
- Nina SO needs to have her hair up on the show more often because Elena was just looking so gorgeous in this episode, and it seemed moreso than usual just because that hairstyle was so flattering.
- Wow, Damon has really made good in-roads with Jenna if she's hooking him up with her friends, and she even gave him Andie's number later.
ETA: Or, erm, this was just a small part of it. It was mostly to keep him from Elena probably, LOL! Pointed out by badboy_fangirl and butterfly, I caught the onscreen proof of that pretty much upon rewatch.
- Ooh, and speaking of, they sure did change the introduction of this character. The sides had Damon walking in the middle of a news report she was doing, and messing up her take, then her flirting with him even though he had just done so. I liked how this was done much better, if only for the fact that it showed that ... wow, Damon has really made good in-roads with Jenna!
- When I saw Jonas walking forward and chilling the werewolves, I immediately thought, well, he works for Elijah, and Elijah promised Elena he'd keep her friends safe. Cool that I was right.
- So, we may or may not know how to kill an Original. With John, well, you never know if he's telling the truth or not.
- I still wish that we could see it in action, but the fact that Damon Salvatore is the head of the Mystic Falls Anti-Vampire Council never does not crack me up so hard. Carol's line about it just made me grin and grin.
As did this whole episode. Oh yes! This is my OMG!AWESOME!ILOVETHISSHOWSOMUCH! show. I know it was only two episodes ago that I felt the same (episode 10, "The Sacrifice"), but that was like, eight weeks ago, yo! "By the Light of the Moon" was mostly disappointing, and "The Descent" was good with some outstanding scenes, but a bit slow and not OMG!AWESOME! I missed that Thursday feeling. So very glad to have it back.
So, yeah ...
Tags: candice accola, caroline forbes, damon salvatore, damon/elena, elena gilbert, elijah mikaelson, ep discussion-tvd, ian somerhalder, jenna sommers, jeremy/bonnie, katherine pierce, matt davis, nina dobrev, paul wesley, stefan salvatore, stefan/caroline, the vampire diaries, tv
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butterfly on February 4th, 2011 04:39 am (UTC)
It was a great episode, yes. It hit all the pacing beats that the last episode missed, as well as having great character stuff. And naked Damon. All the Damon/Elena stuff was amazing. Love.
Yes, that scene was incredibly effective. The show is doing a great job with this arc of Damon's.
Yeah, I'm kinda with him on that, too. And so is Stefan, I think. He's fretted over Damon/Elena while Elena was still busy actively hating Damon.
Poor Caroline! Jules and Brady are so dead to me. And Tyler had better step it up or I will not be letting him back into my heart for... ever.
arabian on February 4th, 2011 07:42 pm (UTC)
Yup, and I keep going back to my idea that this was supposed to the episode we returned from the hiatus on. Having "The Descent" be the mid-season finale makes so much more sense. Rather an ease-down before the hiatus with the one-two-three punch of the cliffhangers at the end, with all three touching upon enough of the interest of viewership (what's Uncle-Daddy John up to? What will happen with Tyler and Caroline? What's gonna happen now that Damon is maybe bad again?) to sustain us and keep us going OMYGOD!what will happen before this episode with the boom!boom!boom! so much happening. Just makes so much more sense.
And, honestly, having so much Damon/Elena in the pre-hiatus episode and the post-hiatus episode makes a lot more sense when D/E ARE by far the more popular couple fandom.
Man, that final bathtub scene was so unexpectedly, awfully amazing.
Very true. And I'm percolating some deep thoughts in my head about that and the whole Damon deserving Elena trend that's been going on this season.
I guess because I'm just not as into Tyler as others it's easier for me to just be done with him, LOL! Plus, my Stefan/Caroline shipper heart resents Tyler and Caroline. Gah! I love Stefan and Caroline SO MUCH! They were perfection in every second of their scenes together.
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(no subject) - butterfly on February 4th, 2011 08:17 pm (UTC) (Expand)
vamplover85 on February 4th, 2011 05:04 am (UTC)
haha LOVE this review. You put the words that I was saying in my head right out on this! This is awesome!!! OMG. Seriously. :) Damon...Damon where was I? *Drools* GOOD god they need to have him naked more!!! :D lol. ICONING THE HECK OUT OF THIS EPISODE. I'll probably icon TONS OF DAMON!!! *DROOLS* lol. Gorgeous episode and just God...everything you said, I loved too. Seriously! D/E scenes were epic so cute!!! And Damon turning to the darkside I KNOW he's gonna keep that a secret for how long I don't know...but seriously that scene with the bathtub at the end...*Sigh* creepy a little tad creepy....and Stefan was good in this episode. Very good. Even though I don't like him that much he was just sweet in this episode what he was doing for Caroline afterwards. *Sigh* So cute! And OMG Nina needs to put her hair up a lot more!!! I LOVE it like that so much!!! SO cute. Just an awesome episode and Tyler...it's his loss seriously lol seriously John was a creep and haha love your title for this episode. *Giggles* but lovely review hon. I adored this episode a lot!! It was seriously awesome!! :D
It really was such a fantastic episode. I was just OMG-ing through so much of it. So good!
danceonstardust on February 4th, 2011 05:18 am (UTC)
DUDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THIS EPISODE. GAH. Naked Damon back and forth, great scenes with D/E, jjdsoajfoijfdfdjfkdfjljfd awesome fight sequence. That chick from TB! I thought she looked familiar! She was brilliant.
Who should also die in a fire is Brady, but, but, but, he's so hot, it can wait a bit, right?
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought they might kiss, which was followed by 'Ew! Gross! She looks like his daughter.' And then I thought, wow, that gives a whole new meaning to the title, "Daddy Issues." But they didn't go there.
LIRL on this. EWWWWWWWW. I never thought of this. Hon, you and your soap opera loving ways. XD
I couldn't help but wonder if Nina Dobrev was going for the female title? LMAO!
EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING OF.
This was about the girls! Their friendship. Their love! Stupid Stefan/Elena. Although, I will say I do get why the Stefan/Elena base are getting some good stuff in the next episode considering that this episode and the one before had barely any Stefan/Elena interaction, and was chockful of meaningful Damon/Elena stuffies. See? I can be fair, LOL!
YES, EXACTLY. I want something for friends only. I would be okay with a "Thank You" or "Please go away"
I still wish that we could see it in action, but the fact that Damon Salvatore is the head of the Mystic Falls Anti-Vampire Council never does not crack me up so hard. Carol's line about it just made me grin and grin.
My expression: :O
John's expression: PRICELESS. lol.
I missed that feeling too! YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!! IT'S BACK! *jumps up and down with flaily arms*
Whee!! Well, hello there!
Yup, I knew I remembered her from True Blood, and I knew what was going to happen with this character so I REALLY wanted to be remembering correctly that I liked her. And, yay, I did!!! She was awesome.
I never thought of this. Hon, you and your soap opera loving ways.
Come on, he was all being creepy-in-love with her there, she looks like his daughter, the title is "Daddy Issues," how could you not go there, LOL!
Re: The slumber party scene, yeah, a "thank you" would have worked, but then that's what she said mouthed to Damon and so that would have hurt as a shipper. Honestly, I just don't think *anything* was needed there between Stefan and Elena. It just seemed so, oh, let's throw a bone to the shippers because we had so much Damon/Elena in this episode. I dunno; it did bug.
But overall, YAY!! Flaily arms city!! WOOHOO!!
x5vale on February 4th, 2011 05:57 am (UTC)
very episode should begin and end with a naked Ian Somerhalder.
Elena was so very much aware of the fact that another female was hitting on Damon.
I noticed that too, imho she was also a little bit worrie dbecause of Damon's attitude. She was not used to see Damno rejecting a woman so maybe who knows...
But having so much of it boil down to Elena, having Damon flat-out say, you're a distraction (and Andie being like 'yeah, cool, I'll be your booty call, you're hot!' was amusing*) just made my shipper heart do the happy dance.<
I really enjoyed it too and the whole scene worked for me. It showed how much torn and multilayred Damon is. I didn't find the compulsion or the munching disturbing and I was a little bit scared of it when I read the spoilers.
It's not a step back in damon's evolution imho.
He has to go through this.
I am not sure Damon wanted to compell her or kill her. I had the feeling he just started to talk, then he realized he was and then he decided to compell her...but this is just me. I had to rewatch it.
Speking of Jensen and Ian...I am at the point I can't choose anymore :)
Great review, I agree pretty much on everything.
I know (via spoilers) what happens vaguely with this character, that's why I said "kill or compel her" because if you don't read spoilers you don't know, so I was leaving it a bit open for the spoiler-phobes who don't know which way things are going to go with her. I do think that he decided to compel or kill her once he admitted that he kills people.
Such a FANTASTIC episode. :D :D :D
(no subject) - x5vale on February 5th, 2011 01:08 pm (UTC) (Expand)
badboy_fangirl on February 4th, 2011 06:14 am (UTC)
So i have a theory on the Isobel/John/Katherine vis-a-vis.
Isobel gave up her child because she was scared kid herself. She grows up, becomes enamored of Vampire, et all Mythology, starts doing research. She becomes expert in her field and eventually desires the Vampire life, and thanks to John, finds Damon, who's willing to turn her--this is what we've been presented about Isobel.
But, what if she became a Vampire on purpose, to help protect her doppelganger daughter? She was helping Katherine get rid of the Tomb Vamps for two reasons: Katherine's reason--she didn't want anyone to know she was still alive and if the T.Vamps were dead, Klaus might believe she was also dead. Isobel's reason--as stated to John at the end of 1x21 was that she didn't want any of them (any vampires) anywhere near their daughter. (As long as you have a Salvatore on each arm, you're doomed, she drawled.)
Katherine stabs John, but doesn't kill him when she totally could have as punishment for his failure to kill all the vampires. She showed up at the house, saw Damon was still alive, and knew that John had failed in some degree.
Isobel is working on what? Killing Klaus, making sure he never comes to MF to find Elena. John and Kat are aware of this and are trying in their own ways to "help" to some extent.
What if, all along Isobel's intent has been to preserve and protect Elena, but her cover is being a Vampire? Maybe she even orchestrated Elena's parents death to cause Stefan to meet Elena so that Damon and Stefan would eventually do just what they're doing: protect her?
I mean, there are so many possibilities here, my mind is spinning.
And, one more thing: If Jenna is fixing Damon up with people who are more age appropriate for him, he can't be kissing Elena on the front porch. That was probably her motivation. *g*
Damon was beyond hot in the episode too. I'm having heat flashes, and I'm not menopausal. ;-)
butterfly on February 4th, 2011 12:30 pm (UTC)
Ha, makes sense. Especially since she did see them arrive together at the Grill in this episode, all 'no personal space'.
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paceisthetrick on February 4th, 2011 06:38 am (UTC)
"Maybe he shook his head really, really, vampire-fast in those few seconds before grabbing a towel? Yeah, that's the ticket!" - I died laughing. My boyfriend was like wtf is wrong with you?!
"Damon Salvatore is the head of the Mystic Falls Anti-Vampire Council" - Someone needs to make icons about this with a very sarcastic Damon smirk!!
"Ah, so Damon (and likely Caroline) is drinking the vervain too." - This cracks me up because they stole the idea from Katherine. And in the last episode where Damon is lying in the road... yeah learned from Katherine. Katherine is like Grandma Vamp... showing the youngins how it's done. LMAO.
Really, honestly how else did his hair dry so fast? If they're going to give me an inconsistency like that, I'm gonna make it make sense, damnit! LOL!
Even with older vamps around, Damon and Stefan were made by Katherine in many ways. It makes perfect sense that they'll keep taking tips and info from her to make their lives better. :)
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eolivet on February 4th, 2011 02:03 pm (UTC)
I loved this ep, too -- and what I found most surprising is that Stefan didn't bug the everliving tar out of me like he usually does. I think because he 1) had very few scenes with Elena, and 2) wasn't constantly moralizing. I LOVED his convo with Tyler -- it proves that his greatest strength isn't being a saint, but being a peacemaker. The diplomat. The negotiator. He probably took the wrong approach (it was more like a "superhero to superhero" talk -- "we can peacefully coexist," etc.) because I think Tyler's still in some kind of denial mode and is now only feeling betrayed because his uncle died, but it was still something. He played a similar, protective role with Caroline.
I like Stefan as more of a "mentor," showing newbie creatures the ropes, than his St. Boyfriend role. I think because with the former, I actually believe his expertise, and the latter, he's just...kind of insufferable. ;p
So, if Damon was being completely honest, then it's quite interesting that he doesn't consider Stefan a reason at all as to why he can't be with Elena.
Great point! It's kind of refreshing, because usually in these triangle(ish) situations, the guy is blaming the other guy rather than (in this case) himself. Poor Damon...nobody hates you as much as you do. :(
And, come on, he looks *just* like Ian Somerhalder.
HA! So true. ;)
badboy_fangirl on February 4th, 2011 05:22 pm (UTC)
Poor Damon...nobody hates you as much as you do. :(
Just had to point out this remark and say HELLS YEAH. Very poignant.
midnightblack07 on February 4th, 2011 07:18 pm (UTC)
*SQUEES RIGHT ALONG WITH YOU*
This episode was definately one of my favorites this season, I know what you mean, it seems like it's been a long time since we've gotten such a *fangirl flail worthy* episode and I am ECSTATIC!! =D
I second your every episode should begin and end with naked Ian, it worked so well here, why change the shoe if it fits??? I see no reason to hehe =P
I DID NOT expect this episode to be so chock-full of awesome Damon/Elena scenes and, suffice to say, it was a VERY pleasant surprise. I think you put it perfectly when you attributed the awesomeness of it to the undercurrents between them. Gosh SO MANY things: his lingering glance when he said he would steer clear of women for the greater good--or something along those lines-- her antsy demeanor after, his calling her out on her assumung that he'd do the right thing because she was the one asking and her uneasy response, and UNCLE JOHN TOTALLY PICKING UP ON THE SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING ON (and, of course, Elena's lowered gaze in response); gaaah the fact that it was all so unexpected made it even better <3
I like the actress who's playing Andie Star as well, she sold her character well in True Blood and she's doing the same here IMHO. It doesn't hurt that her and Ian are so flipping hot together (much more so than he and Rose were IMO) and their back and forth was nice, I think I'll definately enjoy the casual arrangement those two have while they lasts ;)
Nina SO needs to have her hair up on the show more often because Elena was just looking so gorgeous in this episode, and it seemed moreso than usual just because that hairstyle was so flattering.
ITA, I can't remember the last time I was so stunned (in a good way) by Elena's appearance. Even her clothing this episode was nice (that cute brick read shirt as opposed to the navy blue she's been donning day in and day out lol) <3
I just think the last eight weeks would have played out so differently with regards to my thoughts on the show had "The Descent" been the mid-season finale (which I'm really thinking it was meant to be), and THIS had been the return episode. Eh, whatever, the show that I adore so much is back, back, back. Again, last week wasn't bad at all. It was very good, it was just I needed the OMG!AWESOME!ILOVETHISSHOWSOMUCH! kind of episode after the five-week hiatus following the lamest episode they've had since the first three, you know?
Basically, this. Yes, ALL OF THIS!!! FLAIL!!!!
Re: Andie and Damon, yeah, I do like the actress, but I actually don't think they're that hot together. I'm wondering now if it's simply a case that I'm so entrenched in the Damon/Elena story that I'm simply not seeing "Damon" have chemistry with anyone else. It will be interesting to see how I react to any heated Damon/Katherine scenes in the future. (I mean, I did think the Damon/Katherine make-out scene in "The Return" was uber-hot, but I thought the Damon/Elena conversation/aborted kiss was way hotter.)
Oh, man, seeing her NOT wearing a long-sleeve blue shirt was SO VERY NICE! And the hair was just lovely. The straight-ironed look is just (obviously) not natural on her, and well, it's not natural. I wish they'd at least given her some waves, and now with Katherine having the curly/wavy hair we'll probably never see Elena that way again unless she's pretending to be Katherine. Ah well.
Still, whatever, FANTABULOUS episode! SQUEE!
tams71 on February 4th, 2011 09:08 pm (UTC)
Let me join you in your overall reaction...SQUEE!!!!!
Beginning and ending an episode with Ian Sexyhalder naked, wet, and ridiculously HOT should be written into the man's contract. Talk about a ratings powerhouse! TVD would be winning the ratings war in every demographic. Sex on a stick!
Elena was so very much aware of the fact that another female was hitting on Damon. I'm not saying that she was jealous, because (a) there was really nothing to be jealous of there, and (b) it is too soon. However, she was aware and she didn't look particularly pleased.
Oh yeah, Andie coming on to Damon definitely affected Elena. Not to the point where she wanted to scratch her eyes out, but seeing another woman blatantly throwing herself at Damon stirred some feelings within Elena that granted, she's not totally conscious of, but seeing how he affects other women by just being himself made an impact. Her comments to him about blowing Andie off and "you don't have to be rude", his response about "steering clear of women" and those looks, oh my Lord those looks between the two of them, spoke VOLUMES. I think Damon blowing Andie off instead of flirting with her and making a move of his own in that moment will stick with Elena and when the time is right, she'll understand the significance.
Now, that final scene with Damon and Andie. Wow, that played out so much differently than I was expecting.
Everything about that scene was amazing; the sexy playfulness, Damon's confession about loving Elena and wanting to be the better man for her, but feeling as if he can't be who HE is, Andie's understanding and willingness to be his distraction, the way she reacted to his admission that he kills people and his compulsion, her insights into how he can reconcile his fight within himself because "love changes us", and that final scene. That bite. Damon being his true self, but doing it in such a way that it wasn't meant to be horrific or evil.
Yeah, totally the actress.
ICAM! I think the scene played out so well because (1) it was well-written and (2) because Ian and Dawn are good friends in real-life (her boyfriend Bryn Mooser is one of Ian's best friends). It was comfortable, relaxed, and you could tell that Ian and Dawn were having a good time.
I found it quite telling that Damon and Elena are on the same page in regards to John and his offer of help while Stefan is the lone person who actually thinks John is genuine. I loved the Delena moments we got; back and forth banter and that ever present sexual/emotional tension that is right on the surface, but hasn't quite boiled over yet.
Jenna being brought up to speed about Elena's parentage by John in that way sucked. It's like he was rubbing it in her face and he of course spelled out that Elena was keeping things from her to prove that she and Elena aren't as close as she thought.
That vampire/werewolf face off was kick ass. Damon ripping out that heart in mid-air and Stefan catching stakes was so badass, but the most badass part of it all was Jonas coming out of the dark and laying a voodoo smack down on the werewolves. It was a bit cheesy with him walking out with his arms outstretched like Jesus, but it was cool all the same. I wonder if Elijah somehow has a wolf radar detector or if Elena got in touch with Elijah and told him what was going on. Anyway Elijah kept his word so it's all good.
I loved the scene with the girls and I have to admit, it was pretty cool of Stefan to do that. I love it even more that it was for Caroline. There is definite chemistry there...
This whole John/Isobel/Katherine thing has thrown me for a loop. Something is going down. Don't know if it's good or evil. I want to lean towards good, especially after that scene with John giving Elena Miranda's bracelet, but that visit to the tomb after losing his fingers and almost his life to Katherine, has my head spinning.
It's about to get even more interesting!
Oh yes! This is my OMG!AWESOME!ILOVETHISSHOWSOMUCH! show. I missed that Thursday feeling. So very glad to have it back.
A to the MEN!
Beginning and ending an episode with Ian Sexyhalder naked, wet, and ridiculously HOT should be written into the man's contract.
I must concur.
Oh yeah, Andie coming on to Damon definitely affected Elena.
Exactly. There was DEFINITELY something there that was bugging Elena, but she has so completely submerged any non-platonic feelings for Damon that I think she genuninely does not get why she was bugged, so she put it down to him being rude. Whatever, Elena, LOL!
Everything about that [final] scene was amazing; the sexy playfulness, Damon's confession about loving Elena and wanting to be the better man for her, but feeling as if he can't be who HE is, Andie's understanding and willingness to be his distraction, the way she reacted to his admission that he kills people and his compulsion, her insights into how he can reconcile his fight within himself because "love changes us", and that final scene. That bite. Damon being his true self, but doing it in such a way that it wasn't meant to be horrific or evil.
But what I appreciated is that it WAS horrific, and yet totally in character and if you're not already anti-Damon, it totally continued to break your heart because he's just so very fucked up.
ICAM! I think the scene played out so well because (1) it was well-written and (2) because Ian and Dawn are good friends in real-life. It was comfortable, relaxed, and you could tell that Ian and Dawn were having a good time.
I'll just go with well-written, and that they play off well together. I've never been one to find the real-life relationship with people affecting their onscreen personas and interaction unless they are being thoroughly unprofessional and not doing their job. I mean, Nina and Paul are good friends off-screen, and yet I find some of their interactions stilted and unbelievable because I just don't think the actors mesh that well together. These two actors do, and thank God, because after the fail of Somerhalder and Lauren Cohan, I don't think I could have dealt with another sex interest of Damon's being so unbelievable.
I found it quite telling that Damon and Elena are on the same page in regards to John and his offer of help while Stefan is the lone person who actually thinks John is genuine.
I agree completely. This is partly why I say that they definitely do have similarities at the core; they think much more similarly than do she and Stefan.
I loved the Delena moments we got; back and forth banter and that ever present sexual/emotional tension that is right on the surface, but hasn't quite boiled over yet.
Their scenes were AMAZING! LOVED THEM SO MUCH! ♥
It was awesome of Stefan to do that for Caroline. But it really did bug that they took a moment that was built so much on friendship (Stefan and Caroline's, and Caroline, Elena and Bonnie's) and then turned it into a Stefan/Elena couply moment. That really bugged. I don't know if I would have been bugged had it been down the road and Damon/Elena, but I think while the shipper in me would have squeed, the fan of the show, characters and friendship would have still found it the wrong time for that.
And, yes, so, so much chemistry between Paul and Candice. After Ian and Nina, I really think that those two have (by far!) the best chemistry on the show. That scene with them when he walked her home was just swoon-worthy.
Yes! What is going on? I don't even want to speculate because I imagine it will be something I've never even thought of.
pinkkisscandy on February 5th, 2011 01:29 am (UTC)
John's telling the truth....but just in case it keeps Elijah around, I hope they don't believe him XD
Even if they've told us it's true (or it's from the books), I don't trust this show not to flip the switch on that, LOL!
But yeah, anything that keeps Elijah around is a-okay in my book. Wah! I miss Elijah!!
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beck_liz on February 6th, 2011 12:51 am (UTC)
Every episode should begin and end with a naked Ian Somerhalder.
Wow. I can't believe this I didn't even realize this happened. *facepalm* Now I really need to re-watch it. :-D
Oh, and when talking to John later, she tells him that she still hasn't forgiven him for what he did to Stefan *and Damon.*
Yeah, that was awesome. I love that he's basically back in with her. And that he's totally in agreement with her about John and wondering WTF Stefan was thinking.
John and Katherine and Isobel all still working together totally surprised me. I mean, I wasn't at ALL surprised John was Up To Something, but with Katherine? Really? For someone as anti-vampire as he is, that still surprises me.
I completely agree that they need to tell Jenna (and Matt) ASAP about this whole thing. It's getting ridiculous how much she doesn't know. Everyone in her little family knows except her. Bring her into the fold, already. (They probably want to do it in some SHOCKING way that I will not approve of. Hmph.)
LOVED all the Damon/Elena stuff that you have enumerated so well in your post, but I also liked the Stefan/Elena stuff, too. *shrug* What can I say? Do very much love Stefan and Caroline as BFFs, although I don't ship them at all. Loved him bringing Elena and Bonnie over for her, that was awesome.
What a fantastic episode - even if I am really ticked off at Tyler right now. I'm still hoping he redeems himself, though.
arabian on February 6th, 2011 01:20 am (UTC)
How?! What?!? Really?!?! How did you miss all the naked Ian?!?!? I just -- my brain can not compute. Yes, you must rewatch. If you don't, I'll do it for you. It's what a friend would do. :Nods:
that he's totally in agreement with her about John and wondering WTF Stefan was thinking.
Hee! Wondering wtf Stefan was thinking. Hah! So true.
I'm honestly okay with Matt kept in the dark a bit longer, but I want Jenna to find out. And I want her to find out from Elijah ... after they make hot, sweet love! I am so pre-emptively shipping Jenna and Elijah, they can't have less chemistry and heat than Jenna and Alaric (sorry, Ernesto, I love you dearly, but you have much better chemistry with Isobel ... and Damon.)
I was okay with the first Stefan/Elena scene; it just really bugged me that such a beautiful, girly friendship moment was interrupted for yet another reminder that Stefan and Elena have the twuest wuv that ever wuved. It just was not the time.
Partly because I *do* ship Stefan and Caroline (I'm sorry, but their chemistry is so sparkly and magical and they just make my heart squee! That look he gave her on her doorstep was love!), but also because I'm just not a Tyler fan, I don't care about his redemption. I kinda want him to turn out to be a bad guy in the long run. I think that would be kinda awesome actually.
I do definitely agree, though, FANTASTIC EPISODE!! SQUEE!
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linsell_farm on February 6th, 2011 01:05 am (UTC)
First, let me say that I love reading your recaps. You always notice so many great things and that sometimes triggers things in my mind. So, thanks. :o)
Every episode should begin and end with a naked Ian Somerhalder. Yes, this is simply a must.
Absetively Posolutely. Every red-blooded female on the planet should agree with this!!!!
Exactly. Awareness is a very good thing for Elena.
him telling her to stop expecting him to do the right thing because she is the one asking.
Awesome moment. On subsequent re-watching of this scene, I do wonder at Elena's reaction immediately following his statement. She drops her eyes quickly then lets out her breath slowly almost like she felt guilty for kinda manipulating him into being the better man. Not sure what to make of that.
But she was thinking, not some mindless automaton as she offered up the idea that this is the man that Damon is now, because love changes people.
Loved this!!!! Dawn Olivieri is a good choice for Damon's distraction.
And Damon clearly wasn't putting on a show or deflecting here, that much was evident by all he said.
Very good, interesting point. It seems that Damon is hung up on the fact that he doesn't deserve her, and the fact that Stefan does really doesn't factor into the equation anymore.
The alternate title for this episode? "Everybody Hates John."
LOL - so very true.
it was just NOT the right moment, show!
On subsequent re-watching of this scene, I do wonder at Elena's reaction immediately following his statement. She drops her eyes quickly then lets out her breath slowly almost like she felt guilty for kinda manipulating him into being the better man. Not sure what to make of that.
I mentioned this in your lj, but it applies here too, so I'll just copy/paste. I don't think she deliberately was trying to manipulate him (unlike in "Bad Moon Rising"). I think it honestly just comes naturally with him because she does know that generally if she asks and expects it of him, he will do it. Therefore, of course, she's going to ask him if it's going to help any given situation. He just called her on doing that something that I don't believe she's really aware that she's doing. It just comes naturally to her now. She subconsciously knows that she has Damon wrapped around her finger, that he loves her and will do anything for her, but she can't consciously go there. If she does, well, then they have to deal with that whole can of worms, and we know from "Rose" -- "Don't go there." -- that she is so not ready to deal.
It seems that Damon is hung up on the fact that he doesn't deserve her, and the fact that Stefan does really doesn't factor into the equation anymore.
Yes, I do think that part of his feeling that he doesn't deserve her is wrapped up in his belief that Stefan does, but it's become more about him, his failings, his lack of control. And that is how it should be. He can't control Stefan or whether he deserves Elena or not, he can only control what he, Damon, does and how he can ever be worthy of her love.
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Citation 55 Cal.2d 236
People v. Rigney
People v. Rigney , 55 Cal.2d 236
[Crim. No. 6673. In Bank. Jan. 27, 1961.]
THE PEOPLE, Respondent, v. LOUIS FREDRICK RIGNEY, Appellant.
Newberry & Prante and Stafford W. Prante for Appellant.
Stanley Mosk, Attorney General, William E. James, Assistant Attorney General, and Philip C. Griffin, Deputy Attorney General, for Respondent.
TRAYNOR, J.
Defendant appeals from a judgment entered on a jury verdict convicting him of two counts of assault with a deadly weapon and one count of assault with a deadly weapon with intent to commit murder.
Defendant, a hospital corpsman in the United States Navy, was married to Janet Rigney, one of the prosecuting witnesses. Janet secured an interlocutory decree of divorce in July 1958. The decree awarded her custody of their infant daughter and gave defendant the right of reasonable visitation. He customarily visited the child one afternoon each weekend at a San Diego hotel where Janet's father resided. On the afternoon of Saturday, October 11, 1958, defendant arrived at the hotel to visit the child, but Janet had failed to bring her. After the time for the visit had elapsed, defendant drove to Janet's apartment in La Mesa, arriving there between 4:30 and 5. He found the front screen door locked and remained outside. Janet and Gaither Charles Brown met him at the door. Brown said that he had heard that defendant had been looking for him and asked if defendant wanted to see him. Defendant replied, "No, I don't care what you do; I came over to see the baby." He then asked Janet why she had not brought their daughter to the hotel. Janet replied that defendant had told her the previous week that he was not going to be in San Diego Saturday and defendant said she knew that was not true. He then asked if he could come [55 Cal.2d 240] the following day. Janet said that she and Brown had other plans. Defendant turned to leave, and Brown followed him out to the gate. Defendant testified that Brown told him to "[s]tay away from Jan and Lynn [the baby]. If you want to see anyone, come and see me." Brown denied saying anything.
Defendant returned to San Diego. There is evidence that he had two or three martinis, went to his hotel room and got his pistol, and drove back to his wife's apartment, arriving there about 6 p.m. He walked to the locked screen door and said: "Tell Chuck [Brown] I changed my mind. I'd like to see him outside." The prosecution's witness testified that Janet called out "Rigs is back." Brown came from the bathroom, holding a glass and carrying his coat. He tossed the coat to his daughter Sharon and her friend Lynette, who dropped it, and handed the glass to Sharon, who dropped it, and it broke. As Brown approached the door, defendant drew his pistol and fired two shots. Brown flattened himself against the wall to the left of the door. Defendant fired two more shots, wounding Janet and Sharon. Brown looked out the door and saw defendant fumbling with the pistol. Brown jumped out, grabbed the pistol, and the two men scuffled. They entered the apartment where the pistol again discharged, wounding defendant in the left arm and shoulder. Brown and defendant continued the struggle and rolled outside. Brown seized the pistol and threw it into the nearby swimming pool. The police arrived shortly thereafter.
Defendant testified that his memory was impaired as to all events after his return to San Diego. He remembered drinking one single and one double martini and upon reaching his wife's apartment the second time seeing Brown suddenly appear at the screen door, jump to the side of the door and reach for his hip pocket. He did not remember going to his room and getting his gun. He did remember, however, that he had no intent to kill anyone and that he armed himself to prevent a fight with Brown. He testified that he remembered only isolated events after seeing Brown reach for his hip pocket and that he did not remember firing the gun.
Defendant contended throughout the trial that he did not form the specific intent to commit murder. His description of his state of mind during the period between his first departure from his wife's apartment and the moment he ceased firing as well as the conclusions of his medical expert, Doctor Robert F. Brandmeyer, a member of the psychiatric staff of the [55 Cal.2d 241] United States Naval Hospital in San Diego, as to his state of mind during those critical moments were therefore vital to his defense. He contends that the trial judge erroneously questioned him and his medical expert in such an extensive, repetitious, and argumentative manner as to indicate to the jury the judge's disbelief that defendant could not remember what had happened and that the judge compounded his error by failing adequately to charge the jury that they were the sole judges of the facts.
[1] A trial judge may examine witnesses to elicit or clarify testimony (People v. Corrigan, 48 Cal.2d 551, 555 [310 P.2d 953]; People v. Ottey, 5 Cal.2d 714, 721 [56 P.2d 193]; People v. Carlin, 178 Cal.App.2d 705, 714-715 [3 Cal.Rptr. 301]; People v. Montgomery, 47 Cal.App.2d 1, 18 [117 P.2d 437]). [2] Indeed, "it is the right and duty of a judge to conduct a trial in such a manner that the truth will be established in accordance with the rules of evidence." (People v. Corrigan, supra, at p. 559.) [3] The trial judge, however, must not become an advocate for either party or under the guide of examining witnesses comment on the evidence or cast aspersions or ridicule on a witness. (People v. Campbell, 162 Cal.App.2d 776, 787 [329 P.2d 82]; People v. Lancellotti, 147 Cal.App.2d 723, 731 [305 P.2d 926]; People v. Huff, 134 Cal.App.2d 182, 187-188 [285 P.2d 17]; People v. Deacon, 117 Cal.App.2d 206, 209 [255 P.2d 98].)
[4] Both Penal Code, section 1122, and Code of Civil Procedure, section 611, provide that the judge must admonish the jury not to form or express any opinions on any subject connected with the trial until the case is finally submitted to them. A judge must not defeat the purpose of these provisions by comment on the evidence during the trial but must also keep an open mind until he has had an opportunity to hear all the evidence. [5] Moreover, comment should be expressly labeled as the judge's opinion, and the jury advised that it may be disregarded; questions are not so labeled, and when they convey the judge's opinion of the credibility of a witness, there is grave danger not only that they may induce the jury to form an opinion before the case is finally submitted to them, but that the jury will substitute the judge's opinion for their own. [6] The judge, therefore, may not ask questions to convey to the jury his opinion of the credibility of a witness. (People v. Huff, 134 Cal.App.2d 182, 188 [285 P.2d 17].) Nor should he intervene so extensively in behalf of the prosecutor as to align himself with the prosecutor [55 Cal.2d 242] in the minds of the jury. (People v. Robinson, 179 Cal.App.2d 624, 633-637 [4 Cal.Rptr. 50].)
In the present case the trial judge, over defendant's objection, examined him extensively as to events immediately preceding the shooting, interrupting the deputy district attorney's cross-examination to do so. The judge questioned defendant closely to clarify inconsistencies between his testimony on the stand and statements he had previously made. After defendant was excused as a witness and Doctor Brandmeyer was about to take the stand, the judge recalled defendant and once again questioned him as to his memory of the shooting. After defendant had been excused a second time and before Doctor Brandmeyer's examination began, the parties retired to chambers for a conference.
During the conference the judge stated that he did not believe defendant's testimony about his lapse of memory and that he believed that defendant went to his wife's apartment the second time, not to discuss visitation rights, but to fight with Brown. The court said: "He didn't think there was going to be any discussion ... I'm not going to swallow that at all. ... I'm not going to let the jury swallow it." The judge, however, had stated earlier: "It seems to me rather strange that this young man can remember up to the point where he not only sees a man reach for his hip pocket, but after that he reasons in his mind, 'I'm about to be killed unless I can act,' and before he can act, he forgets everything. It seems to me that was a very convenient time to start suffering from amnesia. I am frank to say I don't believe it. I'm not trying the facts in this case. The defendant under the constitution is entitled to a jury by twelve people, and they might believe it, and if they do believe it, he is entitled to that, and I would a whole lot rather one guilty man go free, whether he be guilty or not, than I would rather ten guilty men go free and one innocent man be convicted, in my book.
"Now my view is simply this, gentlemen. I will tell you that very frankly. I don't think a courtroom is a place to play a checker game. I don't think a courtroom is a football contest or boxing contest. I don't think the courtroom is a contest for the purpose of seeing who is the smarter lawyer, or who can persuade the jury best, at all. I think the courtroom is a place to see that justice is done, and I think a courtroom is a place to bring out all the facts that bear upon the subject, and to bring them out fairly and impartially to the end that justice may be approximated as closely as may be by the jury. [55 Cal.2d 243] That is why I asked this young man some questions to find out just at what point he claims he started suffering this loss of memory and as I have said, in the absence of the jury and on this record, I can't quite accept all of his story, but I don't know what the jury's going to think about it, and I'm not going to tell the jury what they ought to think about it. I'm going to ask questions as I see fit, to give the jury all the light that they can have in order that they may derive,--arrive at their own opinions. ..."
These statements were made out of the presence of the jury and did not induce defendant to abandon any of his defenses.
Following the conference in chambers the judge examined Doctor Brandmeyer at great length concerning petitioner's alleged retrograde amnesia. Defendant's motions for a mistrial and a new trial based partly on the judge's questioning defendant and Doctor Brandmeyer were denied.
[7] Although the judge questioned defendant and Doctor Brandmeyer at great length "The mere fact that the judge examined ... at some length does not establish misconduct." (People v. Corrigan, supra, 48 Cal.2d 551, 559; People v. Montgomery, supra, 47 Cal.App.2d 1, 18.)
[8] It is ordinarily better practice for a trial judge to let counsel develop the case and to undertake the examination of witnesses only when it appears that relevant and material testimony will not be elicited by counsel. (See People v. Campbell, 162 Cal.App.2d 776, 787 [329 P.2d 82].) [9] Even if the testimony elicited by the judge's questions, however, would probably have been elicited by counsel, that fact alone does not render the judge's questions improper.
Defendant contends that the judge's comments in the conference in chambers disclosed his purpose to invade the province of the jury by inducing it to disbelieve defendant's evidence about his lapse of memory and that the judge accomplished that purpose by improper questioning of defendant and Doctor Brandmeyer.
[10] It is immaterial that the judge did not believe defendant's evidence or even that his purpose was to induce the jury not to believe it so long as he sought to accomplish that purpose by getting the truth established according to the governing rules of law. Certainly there is nothing improper in the judge's candidly advising counsel in chambers of his disbelief in defendant's evidence. [11] Nor is there anything improper in his questioning witnesses to induce the jury to share that disbelief, if his questions are designed, as [55 Cal.2d 244] the judge stated in the conference in chambers, "to bring out all the facts that bear upon the subject, and to bring them out fairly and impartially to the end that justice may be approximated as closely as may be by the jury."
[12] The questions the judge asked defendant were designed to distinguish clearly the facts that defendant remembered and the facts that he did not remember and to clarify the inconsistencies between his testimony and his previous statement to his naval superiors. The questions the judge asked Doctor Brandmeyer were designed to get a full explanation of the nature and causes of retrograde amnesia. A careful examination of the record convinces us that the judge's questions were not a guise for conveying to the jury the court's disbelief in defendant's evidence but were asked to get the truth established, and that they fairly and impartially brought out relevant and material testimony. Moreover, the judge instructed the jury that any intimation in his questions or the questions of counsel that certain facts were or were not true must be disregarded, and he adequately instructed them that they were the exclusive judges of the effect and value of the evidence.
Defendant also contends that the court erred in curtailing the voir dire examination of the jurors. The court conducted an elaborate voir dire examination and then allowed each party to examine the prospective jurors. Defense counsel attempted to ask the jurors the branch of military service with which they had been affiliated, whether the juror would be prejudiced by reason of the fact that there was a "divorce in this case," and whether any of the jurors were related to a law enforcement officer.
The court refused to permit these questions on the ground that they were asked to obtain information for peremptory challenges. [13] "It is now well settled in this state that a juror may not be examined on voir dire solely for the purpose of laying the foundation for the exercise of a peremptory challenge." (People v. Ferlin, 203 Cal. 587, 598 [265 P. 230].) [14] If special circumstances in the present case made defendant's questions relevant to show bias or other grounds for a challenge for cause he should have informed the court of his reasons for asking the questions. (People v. Hinshaw, 40 Cal.App. 672, 674 [182 P. 59].)
[15] Defendant contends that the court erroneously ruled out of order a question designed to establish that after defendant's first visit Brown stated: "[i]f Rigs comes back [55 Cal.2d 245] I'll tear him apart." It is conceded that defendant did not hear this threat. At the time the question was asked there was no evidence in the record that Brown may have been the aggressor or that defendant was acting in self-defense. Evidence of an uncommunicated threat is proper only after a foundation has been laid tending to show that the victim was the aggressor. (People v. Spraic, 87 Cal.App. 724, 729-730 [262 P. 795]; see 1 Wigmore, Evidence [3d ed.] 552.) The question was not reasked after such foundation had been laid.
[16] Defendant contends that the court erred in ruling out of order a question designed to elicit Brown's tone of voice when he stated that he was coming out to see defendant. After the question was asked the court stated that Brown's tone of voice was irrelevant, but the answer to the question, that Brown's tone was "harsh," was not struck and remained in the record for the jury's consideration.
[17] Defendant objects to the court's instruction that after an interlocutory divorce "[neither spouse] without consent of the other may legally invade the other's separate home, nor eject a guest therefrom, nor exercise any dominion over it. The fact that one of the spouses is given the right of visitation with a child in the custody of the other does not affect the rule just stated."
The correctness of the instruction is not disputed. Defendant insists, however, that in view of the refusal to instruct that defendant had a right to visit his child, the instruction may have misled the jury into believing that defendant's conduct in approaching his wife's apartment was unlawful as a matter of law.
There was evidence that defendant contemplated the use of force to visit his child. The court, therefore, properly instructed the jury that defendant did not have the right to use force. Defendant's proposed instruction stated that defendant had a right to visit his child, but failed to state that he could not use force to do so, and was therefore properly refused.
[18] After deliberating for some time, the jury requested further instructions on intent and transfer of intent. The court repeated the instructions on transferred intent and gave examples illustrating the application of the rules. In the examples the court used itself and members of the jury as parties. The foreman then indicated that he understood the instructions but that he was not certain how to apply them to the present case. The court replied that the application [55 Cal.2d 246] of the law to the facts was the province of the jury. There is no merit in defendant's contention that the court erred in using examples in which members of the jury were parties and in referring to the foreman as "My friend." Defendant also contends that the court erred in repeating the instructions on transferred intent only and failing to repeat the instructions on intent, on the ground that this failure may have been interpreted by the jury as a mandate to find intent and transfer it. This contention is without merit. The court's earlier instructions fully and adequately instructed the jury on the law of intent and the foreman indicated that the repeated instructions answered the question asked by the jury. The court's duty is fully performed if the additional instructions answer the question of the jury. (People v. Finali, 31 Cal.App. 479, 489 [160 P. 850]; cf. Olson v. Standard Marine Ins. Co., 109 Cal.App.2d 130, 140-141 [240 P.2d 379].)
[19] The court instructed the jury to return to court when it had arrived at a verdict on any of the three counts. The jury first returned a verdict finding defendant guilty of assault against Mrs. Rigney and Sharon Brown. The jury then returned to the jury room and found defendant guilty of assault with intent to kill Brown. Defendant did not object to this procedure when the court first suggested it. In his motion for a new trial and on appeal he contends that under Penal Code, section 1164, the jury must be discharged after any verdict has been announced. Section 1164 provides:
"When the verdict given is such as the court may receive, the clerk, or if there is no clerk, the judge or justice, must record it in full upon the minutes, and if requested by any party must read it to the jury, and inquire of them whether it is their verdict. If any juror disagrees, the fact must be entered upon the minutes and the jury again sent out; but if no disagreement is expressed, the verdict is complete, and the jury must be discharged from the case."
This section does not preclude the jury's making a separate return of its verdict on each count when more than one count is charged.penal Code, section 954, expressly vests in the court the power to have separate counts tried separately. There is no reason why the court should not have the jury's verdicts on each count returned separately. Such procedure is followed in the federal courts. (See United States v. Cotter, 60 F.2d 689, 690-691.) In New York, which has a statute [55 Cal.2d 247] identical with Penal Code, section 1164 (New York Code of Criminal Procedure, § 451), verdicts may be returned separately when more than one defendant is on trial. (People v. Cohen, 223 N.Y. 406 [119 N.E. 886, 893-894].)
The judgment and the order denying a new trial are affirmed.
Gibson, C. J., McComb, J., White, J., and Dooling, J., concurred.
Schauer, J., concurred in the judgment.
PETERS, J.
In my opinion the record in this case demonstrates that the trial judge aligned himself with the prosecution by assuming the role of prosecutor, and clearly indicated to the jury his disbelief in the main defense of the defendant. The two witnesses were constantly interrupted by the trial judge, who then exhaustively, argumentatively and repetitiously examined them almost to the complete exclusion of the district attorney. Such examination was officious and unnecessary. It necessarily deprived the defendant of that fair and impartial trial guaranteed to him by the Constitution of this state and of the United States.
The majority opinion correctly and fairly states the facts. It also sets forth the general principles applicable to the examination of witnesses by the trial judge, and briefly mentions the limitations on that power. The majority opinion correctly points out that while a trial judge, in a criminal case, has the power and duty to elicit and to clarify the testimony he "must not become an advocate for either party or under the guise of examining witnesses comment on the evidence or cast aspersions or ridicule on a witness." It is also pointed out that comment on the evidence in the guise of questions should not be indulged in during trial, and that the trial judge may not, properly, ask questions casting aspersions on the credibility of any witness. It is also the law that the trial judge should not, by his questions, distort the testimony nor engage in partisan advocacy.
In my opinion the record demonstrates that all of these rules were violated. The record shows that defendant's defense was that he acted in self-defense up to a point, and that he then suffered a loss of memory. After the defendant testified as to the claimed loss of memory, and while the prosecutor was cross- examining, the judge simply took over [55 Cal.2d 248] that cross- examination. His questions covered the pertinent periods time and time again, and embraced much of the material already brought out by the prosecution. After the prosecutor had concluded his examination, the judge took over again, and again covered the same field that he had already covered at great length. After the defendant had been removed from the stand the judge recalled him and again subjected him to a grueling cross-examination. All objections by defense counsel to these tactics were overruled. The questions were partisan, repetitive and argumentative, and some of them ridiculed the witness.
So far as the conference in chambers is concerned, at which defendant and his counsel were, of course, present, the sole question involved was whether Doctor Brandmeyer could give his opinion as to whether defendant was suffering from retrograde amnesia. After properly ruling that the doctor could testify on the subject, the trial judge then took 38 pages of the transcript to lecture the defendant and his counsel on how ridiculous he thought this defense was. Whether intended as such or not, such tactics could not fail to intimidate the defendant and his counsel.
After this colloquy in chambers Doctor Brandmeyer was called to the stand. The doctor, who was a reputable navy psychiatrist, was defendant's chief witness. The court was sarcastic and unfair to this witness. Even during his direct examination the trial judge took over and asked questions permissible only as cross-examination. If the prosecutor had thus interrupted defense counsel it would have been error, and it was equally wrong for the trial judge to have used such tactics. The record shows that the judge simply took over the cross-examination of this key witness. When the defense took the doctor on redirect to try to repair the damage caused by the judge's questions, as soon as the doctor gave an opinion favorable to the defense, the judge broke in and cross-examined in a fashion so as to ridicule that opinion.
Undoubtedly the trial judge tried to be fair, and undoubtedly his motives were of the best, but his examination of these witnesses was such that it ridiculed the defendant's defense, and obviously was aimed at inducing the jury to disbelieve that testimony. This was prejudicial. These errors clearly denied defendant the fair trial to which he was entitled. I would reverse the judgment.
Fri, 01/27/1961 55 Cal.2d 236 Review - Criminal Appeal Opinion issued
1 THE PEOPLE (Respondent)
2 , v. LOUIS FREDRICK RIGNEY, Appellant. (, v. LOUIS FREDRICK RIGNEY)
Jan 27 1961 Opinion: Affirmed
SCOCAL, People v. Rigney , 55 Cal.2d 236 available at: (https://scocal.stanford.edu/opinion/people-v-rigney-24279) (last visited Wednesday February 1, 2023).


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Victorius Emilius Petrus Maria Fris, né le  à Malines et mort le  à Bad Kissingen, est un homme politique belge catholique.

Biographie

Fris fut avocat au barreau de Malines (1865-1913), juge de paix suppléant (1871-1888) et administrateur de sociétés.

Il fut conseiller provincial de la province d'Anvers (1878-84), député de l'arrondissement de Malines (1884-1900) et sénateur provincial de la province d'Anvers (1900-mort).

Il fut décoré de la Croix civile (or- classe) d'ancienneté de service ; il fut créé commandeur de l'ordre de Léopold, officier de la Légion d'honneur, commandeur avec plaque de l'ordre de Pie IX et chevalier de l'ordre de Saint-Grégoire-le-Grand.

Généalogie
 Il est le fils de Jean Fris, échevin et conseiller provincial (1808-1871) et de Constance Van Deuren (1817-1901).
 Il épousa en 1866 Estelle Conard (1841-1900).

Sources
 Bio sur ODIS

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Député belge
Sénateur belge
Personnalité du Parti catholique
Commandeur de l'ordre de Léopold
Officier de la Légion d'honneur
Commandeur de l'ordre de Pie IX
Chevalier de l'ordre de Saint-Grégoire-le-Grand
Naissance en janvier 1843
Naissance à Malines
Décès en juin 1913
Décès à Bad Kissingen
Décès à 70 ans

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'It just became unbearable to breathe,' a letter to Mayor Lightfoot about Friday's Decolonize Zhigaagoong protest
By Tiffany Walden
Jul 19 2020 Jul 24 2020
Photo illustration by Robin Carnilius/The TRiiBE
Update (Friday, July 24, 2020): On Thursday night, Mayor Lori Lightfoot ordered city crews to take down two Christopher Columbus statues — one in Grant Park and another in Arrigo Park. Both statues were taken down in the early morning hours on Friday. "The City of Chicago—at Mayor Lightfoot's direction—has temporarily removed the Christopher Columbus statues in Grant Park and Arrigo Park until further notice. This action was taken after consultation with various stakeholders. It comes in response to demonstrations that became unsafe for both protesters and police, as well as efforts by individuals to independently pull the Grant Park statue down in an extremely dangerous manner," Lightfoot said in a written statement on Friday morning.
In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue. It's one of those fun rhymes taught to us in grammar school for one of our first history lessons: Christopher Columbus discovered America, followed by another story of friendly Native Americans breaking bread with European colonizers for Thanksgiving in 1619. These American lores, perpetuated by the white gatekeepers of history, are similar to the stories of submissive and obedient or jolly slaves caricatures such as Uncle Tom and Sambo. They erase the true history of America — the scores of Black and Indigenous lives lost across the diaspora and all the native lands stolen— at the hands of European settlers and generations of white descendants.
In Chicago, Black, Brown and Indigenous organizers have been fighting for the city to recognize and honor a variety of truths. On July 17, at a Black and Indigenous solidarity rally in Grant Park, they called for the city to defund the Chicago Police Department (CPD) and decolonize Zhigaagoong, a movement to restore native lands to the Indigenous people who lived in Chicago before they were forcibly removed by the U.S. military in 1833. The word "Zhigaagoong" derives from the Native Anishnaabemowin language and refers to the unceded Niswi-mishokdewinan territory east of Michigan avenue.
During the rally, which began at Buckingham Fountain before moving to the Christopher Columbus statue in Grant Park, protestors were met by police who came armed and ready to guard the statue from those attempting to pull it down. Water bottles and fireworks were thrown, and police fought back with force, spraying gas into the crowd and physically attacking multiple people, including GoodKids MadCity organizer Miracle Boyd and photojournalist Colin Boyle, who was on assignment for Block Club Chicago.
On July 18, The TRiiBE sent emails to CPD and Mayor Lightfoot's office, asking for clarity on the protocol for officers responding to movement action. Both responded with statements they'd already posted on social media.
So we then reached out to those who attended the rally, asking one central question: If you could say anything to Mayor Lightfoot and CPD after Friday's rally, what would you say?
Here are their comments to Mayor Lightfoot and CPD.
These interviews have been edited and condensed for clarity.
Iris Haastrup, 20, rising junior at Wellesley College and member of Youth for Black Lives: "I think that it's really important for Black and Indigenous people to be together as one, kind of referring back to that Fred Hampton video of fighting racism with solidarity. I think that it's very valuable for specific groups, like Black people and Indigenous people, to help our own people. But I think something that's more radical is transcending those lines into creating a racial and class alliance to fight systems of oppression and imperialism.
I saw [the rally] on Instagram. I [went] with two of my friends. One of my friends is Black and Indigenous. I'm Black — my mom's Black American and my dad's Nigerian. I thought it would be important for me and my friends to be there.
I went to the rally first. They were just talking about abolishing police. Racial capitalism. Black lives. Chanting, getting the crowd ready. I didn't know that it was going to be a protest where people would be moving. The flyer just said rally. I went anyway because this is a protest. I went to three protests this entire time and I've been doing social justice and organizing work this entire summer. So I was most definitely down."
Citlali Arroyo, 28, organized the vigil for her high school classmate Jemel Roberson, who was killed by Midlothian Police in 2018: "I think that there's a lot of miseducation about how, not just our country, but the city was founded, who founded it and who deserves to actually have the power. I believe in Indigenous sovereignty. I do believe in liberation of everything, and that includes our most marginalized members, and also I am part of the alumni for Lane Tech [College Prep High School] who are behind the petition trying to rename the mascot, [the Indians]. So this is just all going hand in hand because our students, our people, we deserve an actual true Indigenous people's history. Without that, we're not going to get anywhere.
So being there [at the rally] and standing up for one another, that's really what this is coming down to and it's so physical because it has to be. It's loud. It doesn't have to be violent. We're not the ones who are violent, but we will defend ourselves. Being able to see the leadership that I've worked with come together, put this [rally] together, it was amazing."
Patrick Romano, 26, volunteer with Chicago Alliance: "[The rally] really jumped out to me particularly because it [was] a Black and Indigenous solidarity rally about decolonizing Chicago. I think we take for granted so easily that the land we live on is stolen land, and it's never really talked about in Chicago. I think it's just so important to remember that that fight isn't abstract for us. We are literally living on stolen land. So calling attention to that just really felt super, super important.
[My partner, my roommate, another friend and I] got there around 5:00 p.m. when it was beginning at the rally around Buckingham Fountain. We listened to a lot of speakers. There was an Indigenous ceremony and prayer that happened at the beginning and we listened to a lot of speakers from the Chicago Alliance, from GoodKids MadCity. It was very much like a joyful rally. I've been out on the streets since the end of May pretty much everyday. In the last few weeks, as we've seen, numbers have for sure gone down. As soon as I started walking up to it, I was like, 'oh, shit. There's a lot of people here again.' It was the first time it had gotten that big since, like, Juneteenth I feel like."
Iris Haastrup: "As we kept marching toward the statue, it was very peaceful. All the opposition came from the police. When I was there, one of my friends got pepper sprayed in the eyes and I think some of it got on her skin. So it was irritating her skin. And then it was just so much pepper spray in the air. I just couldn't stop coughing. It just became unbearable to breathe. I saw so many Black people, specifically Black women, on the frontlines fighting this fight and just an amazing, terrible amount of brutality from the police hurting young people."
Illustration by Robin Carnilius/The TRiiBE
Patrick Romano: "Water bottles were being thrown. I saw cops throwing water bottles back at people. I saw them spraying mace indiscriminately. In the course of like five minutes, it feels like, is when everything became super chaotic. The cops were yelling at each other to do this, do that. One cop would be trying to beat on a protestor. Another cop would pull him back.
It's all been a blur because it happened so fast and I think my body just kind of went into shock. An older Black rabbi was trying to get through to the front. We were letting him through. I think someone [else] was getting hit. I tried to reach for them, and that was when a cop grabbed me and said, 'alright. We're taking you.' And just started dragging me and started hitting me. It's all a blur but I have the bruises from it at least on my chest, my back and also my leg, which is giving me a bit of a limp right now. They put me in zip ties. As I was getting dragged across the street, my shoes came off and so I was barefoot. And also they ripped my mask off too."
Citlali Arroyo: "I saw the canisters being pulled out. There's like a militarized sort of truck with a whole bunch of gear and other equipment that I bet the cost of could fund one school for probably 10 years or five years. Who knows? That's really painful to see as a future educator. I just finished my masters of education. I want to be a preschool teacher in Chicago Public Schools (CPS).
There was so much unnecessary force from the police just grabbing anyone who was not even in front of the statue. There was a girl who was on the phone, on FaceTime, with someone, walking away and I saw this cop using his body to push her away and she was trying to tell him to stop. He shines his flashlight — and those are like the really industrial bright ones — in her face so I just went off and told them to leave her alone. That's when other people started noticing how they were picking at the crowd.
We were on the public way. They just kept pushing us back from the statue. We were on the sidewalk where they told us to be and they blinded a rabbi with tear gas or pepper spray. He couldn't see where he was going. Finally we got a medic and the police officers kept pushing us back. I was really upset at that. One of them put the canister in our face trying to make us flinch."
Iris Haastrup: "I went to a protest on May 30 and this one, from my experience of what I saw comparing both of them, this one was a lot more violent. The police came prepared for violence. They didn't come prepared for peace.
All of my friends are OK. I texted them today and we left to go home together yesterday."
Patrick Romano: "I later found out that I was getting filmed by Miracle, the activist from GoodKids MadCity. There's a video going around from her livestream of me shouting my name and my birthday. She was filming me [and] that was when one of these cops smacked her in the mouth and knocked her teeth out. She was trying to make sure my identity was known as I was being taken by police. I'm so grateful to Miracle, someone I don't even know, for doing that for me.
GKMC's Miracle Boyd and other organizers stand firm in their demands to defund police after Decolonize Zhigaagoong protest
"It's time we defund the police and put the guns down," Boyd told The TRiiBE.
Iris Haastrup: "I don't think the police are worthy of any space in our city. This summer has become a historic Red Summer in Chicago because of police violence, because of coronavirus and because of all the young Black people that had been victims of gun violence and the police has done nothing. Their attempts to do something will always fall flat because the police are the violence in the community."
Citlali Arroyo: "I was at the protest where the bridges were lifted on us [on May 30]. My partner and I were one of the last cars to get out. There was next to no [cellphone] signal because everything was just crazy. I wasn't even aware that there was a curfew, let alone that the gates were going up. I felt trapped, and we were lucky to get out because right after we got out is when everyone started getting beaten.
Very few officers were wearing any masks for COVID at both protests [on May 30 and July 17]. Officers were spraying their own with gas and since they weren't wearing [personal protective equipment] PPE, they got hurt. I don't like the narrative that protestors were the ones causing damage or pain to police when it was not the case at all. I don't understand why the mayor keeps thinking that doing anything good for our city means keeping the police. It's just ridiculous.
I don't know how many more videos she needs to see. She keeps saying, 'well, we're going to look into that.' Why aren't you looking? We already have the videos. We already have the testimonials. Why aren't you out there at the protest to see for yourself? I would like the mayor to recognize that public safety means EVERYONE wears a mask. Including cops and her affluent neighbors of the North Side, who refuse to take public health seriously."
Kristiana Rae Colon, 34, a co-founder of #LetUsBreathe Collective: "Lori, the longer you allow police to wreak violence on the citizens of Chicago, the more you stain your legacy and humiliate yourself. The same youth you ignored when they marched for cops out of their schools were brutalized by CPD as they defended the statue of a genocidal murderer. Our movement will only grow, and until you listen to the demands of the movement, you are the target. And we will make sure you lose your job."
Kwyn Riley, 26, organizer with BYP 100: "I would tell Mayor Lori Lightfoot that she is a hypocrite. How can she look in the mirror knowing that she is not prioritizing the youth of this city? Kids were beaten senselessly yesterday. Kids. How could you allow that to happen? Defund the Police means investment into communities, which means Black Lives Matter.
Since when does a statue matter more than a life? Knowing Columbus is a representation of genocide and terrorism, you are perpetuating that same hatred on stolen land. Like, they cleaned that whole thing [the statue] up overnight. It's absolutely insensitive."
I have a lot of emotions rn. Got pepper sprayed and tear gassed. My body is singed and burning. All I know is that CPD, police, do not protect & serve US. They don't care. They do not.
— kwyn.✊🏽 (@kwynology) July 18, 2020
Patrick Romano: "What I would like to say to Lori Lightfoot is that, we know what side she's on. It's so clear. The whole reason that this protest evolved in the way it did is because Lori Lightfoot won't even agree to take the fucking Columbus statue down. And so she had these cops protecting a hunk of rock of a rapist colonizer and beating people to protect a statue?
All these other protestors that got arrested, they need to drop the charges. They need reparations and to apologize to all of these people who were beaten— to Miracle who got her teeth knocked out. I mean, she deserves all the money, and no apology could ever make up for the trauma that I'm sure she has gone through and that a lot of other protestors went through last night. And we need CPAC, a civilian police accountability council, right now."
Nick Ward, 38, member of the 48th Ward Neighbors for Justice: "The Chicago Police Department escalated a protest that attempted to remove the Columbus statue in the south end of Grant Park. While reports have been that the protestors threw projectiles at the cops, the truth is that they were harmless water bottles that landed without incident. When protestors on bikes (myself included) attempted to protect the organizers' efforts to remove the statue via a linked row of bikes, they were dispersed with pepper spray and batons. Some bikes were forcibly removed from their owners. I personally witnessed multiple officers escalating with force, I saw people crying in pain from being pepper-sprayed and multiple protestors with open head wounds gushing blood.
While the mayor may personally and politically disagree with the protestors tactics, the display of force and brutality from the CPD was absolutely shameful. Not one single person who participated in the rally, that I saw, intended to harm or inflicted real harm on anybody. When we were assaulted by the cops, the official paramedics stayed stationary and silent. No one who lives in the city deserves to be treated in such a way by publicly funded officials."
Amika Tendaji, 39, organizer with UMedics, BLM Chicago and STOP (Southside Together Organizing for Power): "That imprisoned, covered statue that no one can see anyway because it's covered and now being fenced in, is a symbol of white supremacy that represents some of the ugliest parts of our past. The young people brutalized are our future. The incredible artists that spray-painted that statue were far too tactically savvy for police, so [they] took out their anger and aggression on young people doing no more than standing about. CPD and Lightfoot proved they serve and protect white supremacist capitalist ideology and will brutalize youth to do so. This is why Lightfoot and CPD will soon lose their jobs."
Sean Hyland, 30: "Lori, how dare you release a statement celebrating [the late] Rep. John Lewis' life the morning after your [police] bloodied people for their disobedience to white supremacy. Had you been the mayor of Selma on Bloody Sunday, we have no doubt that Lewis would have been beaten under your directive. At yesterday's action, your CPD choked and blinded us with a chemical weapon banned for use in war, assaulted us with batons and beat us with their fists.
You were a civil rights icon, the conscience of a nation, & the maker of good trouble until the very end. Rep. John Lewis, you will be sorely missed.
Let's all devote ourselves to the cause of justice and aspire to our highest ideals as John Lewis showed us throughout his life.
— Mayor Lori Lightfoot (@chicagosmayor) July 18, 2020
At our celebration of emancipatory ethics, you uplifted the statue of a pedophile, rapist, murderer and slave trader. While we demanded the decolonization of Zhigaagoong and the abolition of policing, incarceration, surveillance and violence against Black and Indigenous people, you reaffirmed your commitment to the most vile human institutions and attributes and your willingness to maim anyone who expresses their humanity and love for the oppressed, marginalized and deliberately silenced.
Your perverse love for beating, gasing, jailing and dehumanizing folks fighting for justness and the liberation of Black and Brown communities is well known, and you once again aired your depraved indifference to human life at last night's Black Indigenous solidarity rally.
Every one of you has dedicated yourselves to an abhorrent, losing cause. Another world is on her way. One grounded in love and liberation. We're ushering her in, we're uplifting her."
Iris Haastrup: "If I could say anything to Lori Lightfoot, I think she's a disgrace to the Black community. She disgusts me. The entire police department disgusts me. The fact that Lori Lightfoot tries to use her identity as being a Black lesbian, as a fellow Black queer person, it does nothing for me. Your identities don't mean anything to me because you are an agent of the state that enacts harmful violence to Black people.
I read a couple months back that about $1.6 billion [goes to the CPD budget]. That money, plus more, should be placed on the South and West sides of Chicago — not in the hands of specific Black business owners, but in the hands of actual people on the South and West sides. I think the police should be abolished, and not in a way that just says, 'oh, we should just invest in social workers,' but in a way that's invested in Black and Indigenous [people]. And [there needs to be] a redistribution of land.
I don't know why people joke about the West Side not having grass, but that is a reality for people and we should have the opportunity to live in areas that produce life and produce collective wellbeing and unity for all of our people — not just for a small percent of our people."
[Editor's Note: In an effort to protect the identities of the most vulnerable, The TRiiBE used a photo illustration to accompany this piece]
Tiffany Walden is the editor-in-chief of The TRiiBE.
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