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Venue: DTE Energy Music Theatre
Location: Detroit, Michigan, USA
Zsa Zsa
gladcarrot
darluh
I will be attending, along with my girlfriend, Olivia.
I will surely be here since the Grand Rapids show sold out. I can't say I'm happy about the Co-headlining thing though. I want to go to a Manson concert, not a metal festival or a co-headline tour! Being at DTE will make it just seem like another festival date. Is this the only outdoor date for the tour? October in Michigan can get cold sometimes. Oh well, it's better than no Manson concert. I encourage everyone to at least get pavilion seating unless you want to be in a pit, which will have to be on the hill since there is no open area between the stage and the first row of seats.
Still new to the forum. How do I get on the "Members Attending" list?
Edit: Automatically it seems! ;)
I'm going to go as long as I can get good tickets for around 150 a piece. Do you guys think that would be possible?
I will definitely be going to this. I wanted to go to the one the next day too, but I'm not sure I'll be able to..
and to the above poster...I'm sure if you buy tickets the day they go on sale through TM you will get good seats. I don't think they will go for $150 a piece...
Tickets on sale August 10th.
Prices TBA.
Edit by Norsefire.
Ticket link through venue website - http://www.palacenet.com/default.asp?event=2201
I was just about to panic. Ahh. Attending this one, not alone! =]
Officially got my tickets. See you there!
I got my tickets, but I'm really disappointed in the seats, lol. I wish i would've known about RZ golden packages, I would've went for the one that gets me a seat in CTR 1...ah well..
I just bought my tickets, so I am 100% confirmed! Along with Olivia, of course!
Got my VIP for the show. Anyone else going VIP?
Not me. :/
fatkid
I am! Still have to get my ticket though :/
Zsa Zsa and I will very likely be live-tweeting from the event if anyone cares. Where is everybody sitting?
I have VIP. I am so excited! 5 days!!
Zsa Zsa and I are here and VIP. TWEETING @esocks
Willice
Have fun guys!
I just saw this tweet on Twitter. "Apparently Marilyn Manson is going backstage to kick Rob Zombies ass.. Wonder if this is serious." Anyone know what's happening?
Uhh, something is definitely going on. There's some animosity coming his way. Apparently, Zombie had the show cut short again. But, we did get his "hit" song. He called it The Beautiful "I'm gonna fuck your motherfucking ass up" People. At the end of the show, he actually said he was going to kick Zombie's ass.
^ Ugh Thanx. Keep us posted if you can.
How was the show?
vonrueden09
I'm surprised this didn't happen already. At the Minnesota show, after Manson was yelling about the security guards, Rob Zombie ended his show by thanking them and talking about how great they were.
The show is and was very good. I was hoping for Reflecting God and Coma Black, but I am pleased. Zombie's set just started. I don't see a black eye.
Sorry for the double post, but Zombie's screens are backwards and Zsa Zsa and I are making jokes about Manson doing it, lol. They say "Yeah Hey."
Zombie is talking shit right now. He is calling him a weirdo and actually said it was his last show on the tour. He pointed to his ass and showed that it wasn't kicked. "Rock star bullshit. "
Good news! Fuck Rob Zombie, I just hope Manson continues. Maybe even with an extended set that I can be jealous of.
^ It sounds like it's Manson who's calling it quits, not Zombie.
I didn't think about it that way. I hope that's not the case...it's hard to tell who "his" is referring to in that post.
I'm hoping for Manson to come at Rob's stage at some point and kick him out of his giant robots and then start to fight with him. I don't even care if he got his ass beaten, I just want to see a fight between the two. That's how badass and punk I am. I'm even doing a mohawk later today.
But seriously, are they 12? Geez.
From the tweets I'm seeing, Zombie was telling the crowd he was booting Manson off the tour? And I guess Manson is pissed because Zombie's stage production is causing him (Manson) to have to cut his set short?
Eric Lacy @EricLacy
"Some tours just don't got together," Rob Zombie told the crowd. Says he's tired of Marilyn Manson's "rock star BS" @mlive_detroit
Rob Zombie says Marilyn Manson booted off tour after whining tonight on stage about having set cut short.
Rob Zombie, what a moron.
Considering it's supposedly Zombie's stage set-up causing the problem with Manson's set having to be shortened, RZ has a lot of balls pointing fingers about "Rock star BS."
I'm not sure if its official. But Z said tonight was Manson's last night.
I don't know how that would be Zombie's call to make tho. And Manson quitting the tour would rain down a shit storm of contractual obligation issues.
I cannot wait to hear how the VIP goes tonight!
Hahahha! Another beautiful acoustic performance. lol
Manson will end up playing an entire set acoustically, lol
And the rest of the band will be hired by RZ. lol
If he's legit quit the tour because of RZ's stupid fucking fireworks and stage antics used to cover up his shit music I'm going to set Zombie's beard on fire :((
I know it's not. But he seemed pretty damn sure of himself. I am excited for VIP. I probably won't be posting nearly as much... Opportunity of a lifetime and all.
I LOVE ROCK 'N ROLL
Zombie is slamming Manson during School's.
And then he is tired of MANSON'S "rockstar bullshit"
hahaha, go fuck yourself, Rob Zombie.
thousand_kisses
*makes popcorn*
Exactly! Yo, Zombie
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7qhyu2xsK1rbxjygo3_500.gif
Cringeon
Regardless of what's going on, if the Zombie crew is causing anything to be cut yet still doing their full show - then fuck the whole place up. I'd much rather see MM take off on his own, and I know a huge pull of these shows are MM fans. It's a shot in the foot if they boot MM and think they can maintain the audience draw these shows have had.
Show over. Waiting for VIP.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4oZ_lzCcAIlxrA.jpg:large
Eric Lacy @EricLacy
Rob Zombie cusses out Marilyn Manson on stage; calls him "Brian." Lol! Then rocks "Schools Out For Summer."
Rob Zombie calls Alice Cooper "the real motherf-ing deal!"
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/971/Sohardcore.jpg
The Empirical Guy
Agreed, that's exactly what I was going to say. A tour like this, you work out your sets and changeovers well in advance, if one band wants to have over-the-top production with huge screens and pyro and robots, that comes out of their playing time, not someone else's. Expecting it to go the other way is pretty much the definition of "Rock star BS". It would be amusing though to see Rob kick Manson off the tour (which I don't think he'd actually have the ability to do anyway) and then play the rest of the tour to half-empty venues.
^ C'mon, dude, Zombie rocked out "School's Out For Summer." LOL For Robert Cummings, school's been out for 35 years and Alice Cooper might be "the real motherfucking deal" but no one should still be singing "School's Out For Summer" at 64.
Alice Cooper is the real fucking deal of what? Sorry, but I never found the Alice influence on MM to be anything more than the media label of shock rock. I'm really curious of the details, if Zombie's production is causing issues they should go on first so they have all day to setup. While MM's stage setup is more elaborate as it has been, it's still more stripped than Zombie's and would make much more sense in the changeover between sets. I'm sure there were some guarantees on the tour, so if zombie is trying to take control MM is definitely not going to walk out damaged.
^ I've never been a fan of Cooper, but I think they mean he's the Grandfather of "Shock Rock."
http://www.buzzgrinder.com/media/alice-cooper-golf.jpg
^ LOL
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mba1b4Wdtf1rnbhyuo1_500.gif
Why shit at Alice Cooper because of all of this?
Someone is jealous, Manson!!! Manson is the winner.
We have a winner.
Zombie used Cooper as a verbal weapon against Manson for some weird reason.
TH15x15xMYxOMeGA
I don't understand how RZ could kick Manson off the tour. The tour belongs just as much to one band as it does the other. I bet this bullshit will be over in a few days.
...Either that or it gets 1000x more interesting and hilarious.
But hey, at least Rob is admitting that Manson's a rockstar.
I'm just really hoping my show on the 15th is still on, with full sets for both bands.
SHIT'S GETTING REAL! As a dual fan, I am quite torn...
Manson101
dont believe everything you hear. RZ CANNOT kick MM off tour. I've studied Music Business and that is impossible. Your show will be on as well as everyone else's .
^ No offense, 101, but that top posting thing you do is a pain.
5 and Ginger are probably thinking "Really"?
well, they'd probably finish the US leg of the tour but if shit's really going down, i can see where they might reconsider whether or not europe is a good idea or not...
I doubt.
Bands can bail on a tour, but it's not without taking a good fucking over it. This tour was sold as a certain bill, and if one band tries to take control and boot the other, they've basically sold a show they can't deliver. It's going to hurt some more than it hurts the intended, fans included. We should wait for specifics to come in, but there's arrangements made before the tour kicks off and if contracts get broken, it reaches further than just ticket sales.
I think peopleshouldrelax and stop over thinking this.
Prolly right, but in my two and a half weeks browsing here I've never seen a thread move so fast on this forum.
DRRRRAMA!
We're Manson fans, hence we think. Also, this is more exciting train reading than Oscar Wilde's diary. Not to make light of any suffering occurring in the Manson camp of course. I bet dealers and lawyers are being called. Ron Zombie sounds like an utter tool. Even if the tour continues, I'd think the strain between them could effect performance.
I agree. The best thing to do is stay away from one another and let the lawyers/agents sort it out.
It's kind of hard to think of these guys not getting along. (Based on outward appearance at least.)
ok..im gonna go smoke this joint and hope for official word when I get back in...I'm supposed to be fucking road tripping it to Bloomington tomorrow goddamnit.
crowded_morgue
worst case scenario, a riot is being incited by rob zombie.
there is a link floating around on twitter from some Detroit news guy.
Not only on outward appearance, I thought that they would come off this tour becoming the best of friends. They are probably too much alike to succeed together.
I'll wait on official word but what the fuck, I'm travelling from Canada all the way to Dallas. Would not do that for just a Zombie show...
The Wax Gentleman
In some weird way this reminds me of "The Campaign..."
It's stupid. Manson overreacts, and Rob Zombie is a bit of a conceited asshole.
http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/539375_372354232850214_1613293588_n.jpg
This was uploaded to Facebook, it's a picture of the meet and greet.
^first bright M&G this tour?
+ in the autumn derp
http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/detroit/index.ssf/2012/10/marilyn_manson_rob_zombie_coul.html
You know, I liked Rob Zombie longer, but I like Manson way more..I did enjoy Rob's show but I was also put off by the commercial for his movie..hence why I've called him 'hollywood Rob Zombie' for years now. If anyone is having rockstar BS issues, it would seem to be him. Manson can put on a great show without the 'robots' and shit, like this past spring. And I mean really Manson was pissed last night, he didn't call Rob out onstage, but Rob has to do the name calling crap? wow...
I don't know, I'm just really irked by him, and I hope it's not an end all for those that have shows coming up.
Cannibal-Corpse
Since i can't attend the show in my area i wouldn't mind the split, besides it'd give me an opportunity to see Manson for this tour if Manson does a solo show closer to my area
Does remind me of the Hole an Manson tour so far, If it makes it the rest of the dates i'll be surprised if it continues threw Europe.
this is old picture, not from Twins of Evil.
Sorry if I don't feel obligated to post the link for you. If you are too lazy to find it for yourself then that is your fucking problem.
BTW- for those of you who don't know... the show in Chicago was cut short bc of venue curfew . had nothing to do with RZ . (another thing blown out or context )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMD1BbvgVqo
Hey, Cruel World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCWbnAj1FFM
Piece of ACSS
In the audio Cringeon posted above, Manson doesn't even say Rob Zombie's name. Sure, you can say it's implied all you want.
The way I see it, Manson was railing at a number of things during the show in Chicago. I distinctly remember him naming Interscope and Cooking Vinyl, but, from the stage, I don't remember him saying anything negative about Rob Zombie at all. A tweet went out about the set being cut short and that Zombie's band had already played Beautiful People. That tweet was a humorous way to express displeasure. No big deal really. At the VIP party, it doesn't matter what Manson said, it was a semi-private event, but I will say that the few little smirky jibs he made about Rob Zombie, which were few and very short, as in "Fuck Rob Zombie", which may I add, drew laughs, not horrified gasps, as intended. So in Detroit, Manson says he's going to kick Rob Zombie's ass. So what. I've told my friends the same thing at times.
This is a far cry from what I've read and seen from Zombie. Apparently, his cage was rattled enough to verbally berate Manson over and over again from the stage and put out a couple of long-winded apologies on Facebook. In my years as a counselor, it's usually the one that is talking the most about their innocence that is the most guilty.
If this was all staged, forget everything I've said. In fact, forget it anyway. I'm gonna kick your ass! ;) j'k
pflumtamas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTSJbM5ZlFU
Listen to rob....
This is exactly what I'm talking about with Zombie. He behaves like that during the concert and then later acts as if it was all Manson's doing. They both acted unprofessionally but for Zombie to issue a statement portraying himself as an innocent is bullshit.
It's pretty damn obvious when Manson actually is drunk and I'm so over that adjective being used when it's clear (to me anyway) he's not drunk. Manson's natural speech pattern doesn't (and never has) include pronounced enunciation.
Shangri-LIE
If people don't just shut up I am going to kick everyone's ass three times.
arkahno
I'm not against Rob Zombie, I love his work, and mostly I think Marilyn Manson is a son-of-a-bitch.
But after watch the video where Rob Zombie encourage the audience and his band to say "fuck you" to Manson and after read his rant about it, and after hear the audio where Manson supposedly attacked Rob, I can say Rob took the things too far.
Manson obviously is not making any comment because in Manson´s mind is nothing important, obviously Rob Zombie is giving the damn thing too much importance.
^ DV5
http://www.providermodule.com/forum/showthread.php/5091-Honey-Boo-Boo
"We are in Bloomington getting ready to sound check" -rob zombie's twitter
lol, MM had some choice words - had to wait for the DL to finish.
http://soundcloud.com/cringeon/manson-2012-10-12-10-the
Where can we get the audio of the full show? :)
It was sarcasm. Honey Boo Boo could take both Rob and Manson on though!
Be a lover, not a fighter ;)
DecayingSinner
I love reading all the speculation. The show will go on.... It's funny because I don't remember anyone saying that this tour wasn't a good idea when it was announced...now it seems like everyone had their doubts. Kind of like how everyone hates The High End of Low now that Born Villain is out. Everyone loved that album when it was released.
If he were drunk, that pelvic thrust at approximately 2:00 would've sent him teetering.
Per Manson's accent, I totally agree, AssetReign. As a fellow southerner, I know what it's like to be thought drunk when entirely non-drunk. His voice has a mellow roundness that doesn't exist in most parts of the country. Also: LOLZ (I found this video hilarious.)
Here's what I don't get. Even though I really don't care anymore about it. Boo Hoo. Two grown men were calling each other names, who cares? Anyway, they both engaged in that type of behavior and it is between them only. Who literally gives a shit? Just drop it already.
I said this in the Rob Zombie thread just a second ago, but can we drop it? Is this something we should care about? Two grown men calling each other names? It's between them alone. The fact that this conversation has lasted this long is ridiculous. Stop talking about it. Tonight is a chance for redemption!
The Overman
I don't remember this at all. The announcement thread is full of people who have a sense of trepidation about the tour, who are "only going to stick around for Manson", etc.
I've always disliked THEOL.
Here's the video of Manson doing the reading of Blake where you can tell he's trying very hard to clearly enunciate and still that "slurring" speech pattern creeps in. Despite the fact he walks onstage carrying a glass of absinthe, he's obviously not "drunk."
http://youtu.be/xghpb_myA0E
https://rapidshare.com/#!download|509p6|2472700379|Zombie%20and%20Manson% 202012-10-12%20DTE%20mp3.rar|250957|0|0
ThreeEyedGod
Rob Zombie sucks balls
"Man walks onstage with a big glass of liquor/slightly slurring/though not drunk." :) Makes sense
i said straight up that i wasn't real crazy about the idea, so can't point a finger at me :)
My recording from last night. Missed the first 6 Manson songs. Fucking traffic.
Dirge Inferno
This is so sad.
Thanks for the recording gladcarrot. Grabbed it from DIME, didn't want to upload the whole thing in lossy but just had to share the hijinks.
Did he just say: "Bubble minx"? LOL!
SatanBakesale
Haha I fucking called it really early on. I knew this tour would go the way of the Manson/Hole tour. I fucking knew it. It shouldn't really surprise anyone.
Damn, you did call it lol. Maybe this will make Manson's shows kick even more ass and he might start playing longer in spite.
haven't read through this whole thread yet, but this show was my first manson show. used to post on mansonusa way back in the day and finally had the opportunity to see him live. manson's set was great. would of ideally loved a little more of his old material, but saw that the crowd responded better to the newer stuff, surprisingly. i found my way right up front and started noticing the animosity once rob's set started. i haven't been following manson the past two albums and kind of figured maybe the friction was coming from the john5/ginger situation (don't know if that solo is a regular thing, but it seemed to me like a kind of fuck you precursor to zombie's rant.) ended up meeting Fred after the show and hanging out at the bus and he said it was all just stupid shit, nothing to worry about. he said tension was real high but it was all sorted out. Fred was a real cool guy, it was good talking to him. he said Manson has some cool ideas for intros for future dates involving a curtain/cape like from The Cell. hope to see Manson again some day on a solo tour.
On the topic of the actual show, which we now seem to be leaning towards, here are a bunch of pictures:
http://timeoutchicago.com/music-nightlife/audio-file-blog/15775741/marilyn-manson-and-rob-zombie-at-allstate-arena-photos
I was interested in this photo especially:
http://timeoutchicago.com/sites/timeoutchicago.com/files/imagecache/timeout_492x330/MarilynManson.mu.21_1.JPG
What are those things to the side of the double cross? Are they new set items? They sort of look like Zombie props.
I'd rather just go and see Alice Cooper!
Way to have your cherry popped!
They almost look like wings?
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not... I mean the big metal-like things that look like they're from Alien.
They were at the SLC show, almost look like weird podium things. Don't think they are part of RZ's setup though.
I wasn't being at all sarcastic. They look like metal (expandable) wings to me.
Mi-CroMartie
From Zombie's official FB:
"As stupid as this all is, I feel I must clear things up a little better. First off, I want to thank all the fans who came out in the freezing cold in Detroit last night. It was a total blast as always.
Unfortunately things turned ugly backstage. Why? I don't know, but for some reason our touring partner decided to end his set by blaming me for something that I had nothing to do with and screamin
g he was going to "kick Rob Zombie's ass as soon as he got off stage".
Go figure. I was backstage hanging, watching the show thinking "hey this is gonna be a great night", when suddenly he starts screaming threats. So strange. I don't get it. Christ, I've known some of his crew for 20 fucking years and some of his crew used work for me. It's all good. No one would fuck with someone's show. It is ridiculous.
Well, of course I felt the need to respond to the " kick my ass remark". Who wouldn't? Although I wish I had kept it backstage and kept the fans out of it. It is all 4rd grade fight after school nonsense of which I have never dealt with on tour before. Co-headlining tours always go smooth because everything is cut 50/50 and I mean everything. No one fucks with anyone's show. It is even fucking Steven.
I've done it co-headlining tours many times before and have had no troubles. Not with Pantera, Slayer, Alice Cooper, Korn, Megadeth or anyone ever. So I didn't expect any troubles on this. It seemed like a great idea at the time.
But shit happens. Anyway, sorry to the fans who had to dealt with the embarrassing stupidity of it all. We are all there for the same reasons to give you the best show ever… that's it."
APOLOGIZE TO MANSON FOR CUSSING HIM OUT, DOUCHEBAG.
^ His managers need to clamp their hands over his mouth, tape his fingers together, and tell him to STFU.
They look Bosch-esque -- whom I think the Alien monster was modeled after, but I could be thinking of something else.
i thought "Alien" as well when i saw those.
They look like broken up stained glass windows from a church to me. Similar themes to his old ACSS touring stage set up.
Well glad I'm not alone in wondering what those were haha
Manson cussed him out first. How is everyone missing this? There's video and audio/concert goer testimony to this
Edit - and *coughpublicitystuntIcalleditfirstthismorning*
This was way more fun than the Presidential debates.
not gonna disagree with you there, brah
If it were a Presidential debate then who was Obomney and who was Robama?
filthytothecore
I'd love to personally see what Manson thinks about this, I enjoyed Zombie back when He was White Zombie, But it seems his music has gotten shittier and repetive as time goes by. I'm 100% Manson Camp all the way in this issue as at least two memebers have actually talked with me,Zombie blew me off, I guess money talks when you can meet someone instead of actually chatting 1v1.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb8t0xbmPG1rbuj4ro3_500.gif
Vote Manson or Vote zombie, Who would you vote for, Given the current circumstances?
You do realize I did that on purpose right? :) *I chuckled. *Drinks melted licorice
A bit of an older article, but a good read.
http://www.theprp.com/2012/09/22/news/melvins-buzz-osbourne-says-tour-with-white-zombie-was-his-worst-touring-experience/
Anyway, they were pretty good live for a band like this, but I do remember the drummer telling me that they probably couldn't even do a live show without backing tapes running pretty much the whole show. Whatever. At least NIN and their heavy-duty arena crew were nice to us and that whole tour, despite the rock and roll posturing horseshit was a cake walk compared to the next band we did a big wheel "arena" tour with, which was White Zombie…
Easily the worst touring experience of my entire life was the White Zombie tour we did. I could write a whole book about that infernal bullshit. On the first day of the tour, the first person we met from the entire White Zombie cast and crew was a mullet headed road manager who ended up behaving like a mean version of Cotton Mather.
He was a "professional" roadie. Now I have never met a group of people who hate music more than professional roadies, and it is clearly obvious that 99.9 percent of them know nothing at all about music. Nothing. I find this to be quite strange really. It's like someone who works in a bakery knowing nothing about baking. Actually this also extends to most of the bands these guys work for as well, but I pretty much lump all of these bands and crew into one big sewage pit. It's fitting.
Mr. Mullet told us straight up that he was going to see to it that we got fucked over every night PA-wise in order to not piss off his boss, the swollen White Zombie dictator Rob Zombie. And it just went from there. He openly told us that Rob acted a prick to him, and that's how life on the road was going to go for us as well.
Perfect. One insane thing after another every day for the whole tour. On one of the few times we actually got a soundcheck, Mr. Mullet came on stage and pulled the plug because Rob was eating and that we were to "shut the fuck up" because he didn't like the "noise."
My instant thought was what the fuck is he eating, a Faberge Egg omelet? I'd been to their catering and it was the same swill they always serve at these horrid rock'n'roll extravaganzas which amounts to nothing more than disgusting macaroni and cheese type garbage and an assortment of what appears to be dead things in jelly.
You'd think he'd want some kind of booming symphonic distraction to help disguise the fact that he's eating a big plate of steaming dog shit. Or so you would think….
And the idiocy didn't stop there. Rob did this between song speech every night that consisted of unintelligible talking gibberish delivered in a "heavy metal" guttural grunt, and at some point he inevitably started saying "they said we couldn't do it, they said it couldn't be done." Which I'm guessing is in reference to them surprisingly being able to peddle another million records to their highly gullible brainless fans. I'm not sure why he thought his dull minions needed to know this. Their entire thing was just dumb.
Don't get me wrong, it was all our fault for doing a stupid tour like that in the first place and I certainly can't blame them for that. We accepted the offer! Big mistake on our part but we did learn our lesson as a result of that stupidity. I think it's a bad idea for us to try to sell our band like that.
Actually, we believed that then as well, but it was their idea to have us along and for some reason that remains a mystery to me, they paid us pretty well.
But those days are over for us. Now, I would rather eat my own shit then do another tour with people who behave like that. Actually if not my own, then who's shit would I eat? That's a good question…."
Celebrity Killing Spree
Zombie fucked Manson's set list
Manson fucked Zombie's wife
Totally called it.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb2o49LJBn1rnbhyuo1_500.gif
You called it wrong. It definitely wasn't a publicity stunt.
Honestly, I think Dv5 has a point with the publicity stunt. What really made me think that was how John 5 got involved with saying "Fuck you, motherfucker". From what I've seen, John 5 is always very careful with his choice of words in interviews and seems to very much like to keep the peace. I just can't see him being so confrontational and antagonistic or even just getting involved in squabbles.
Either way, I really wouldn't worry about dates being cancelled with all the money and management that was invested to set the tour up.
I don't who I dislike more for this. Manson being a cunt over 15 minutes being cut (gee, that's what happens when you start late). Or Zombie for being a cunt on stage about it.
I think it's just hilarious, mostly cause I can't go and see them so if it ends I could care less (sorry ticket buyers).
I knew when I first heard about this tour happening, that it would be a disaster because you can't put two huge artistic egos that damn big in the same room and not expect a fight. And if Manson doesn't drop off of the tour (doubt he will because too much money would be lost), expect more crap to come. Even now, this may be the beginning of the wedge and more spiteful things that are to come.
Stop talking about it. I really really really mean it.
Are you gonna kick our ass three times?
Don't tell me what to do!
The Hand
Wellllll... if Manson was late, it's a bit rich for him to expect Rob to cut his set short just to indulge that.
on the other hand, would the extra 4 minutes really have seen them violate the curfew? Seems hard to believe
publicity stunt is possible, but a bit hard to see how it would instill buyer confidence - "looks like this tour is going to implode, better buy some tickets!"
Manichaeist
I think it's just hilarious, mostly cause I can't go and see them so if it ends I could care less.
I'm sure I'm not alone in wondering exactly what would cause you to care less
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKFgjiwckBM
quite honestly I can't make out a single word in this. has anyone posted a clip that wasn't shot in 1964?
Learning2FakeIt
For the love of fuck I hope Manson can act like a fucking adult and resolve this!! I made my travel arrangments for the ct show and bought a VIP meet and greet ticket. FUCK!
Nibz
I guess I should start with a brief intro since Im new here. Been a Manson fan since 1998. I don't care for engaging in Internet-y things like Facebook (although I have a twitter account) or online message boards so I have never posted on any other Manson board before. I did, however, frequent mansonusa, babalon etc to catch up on news and whatnot. Kudos to the owner(s) and mod(s) for making this place my newest go-to source.
So Im posting my thoughts on the whole 'controversy' surrounding this show. First, at the venue I'd say that the Manson shirts and the Zombie shirts seen were 50/50 (there's a purpose to this sentence later). You could tell onstage Manson was pissed off with his 'I'm gonna kick ass after this show' comments and other things that I couldn't quite catch but I'm sure you've heard by now. Now, Manson didn't say Zombies name at all (that I can remember at least). Side Note: I've been to about 5-6 Manson shows and this show had the best version of Beautiful People I've seen live because Manson made some rants match the beat of the song lol
Then Zombie came on and shit all over him. I couldn't believe it. I mean, I understood Zombie wouldn't lie down and take it. But he attacked Manson's work, used "Brian Hugh", and what irritated me most was having the crowd get involved. I felt so awkward out there in the crowd, where I know 50% of us were Manson fans. Having another artist try and have you attack someone you admire is totally childish. Making fans in the crowd feel awkward because of that is not cool either. I'm not saying Manson is right here. He is known to be a baby. But Zombie could have raised the bar or let it stay equal, not lower it.
Anyways, some of you are wondering about the VIP thing. I went and it was Twiggy and Manson. This tiff didn't seem to bother Manson at all, so I'm led to believe he doesn't take it really serious. He was all jokes and had everyone laughing. He was in really good spirits. From what I heard, there was no Zombie bashing. I wanted to ask him about what happened out there (the fighting) but conversation lead to other topics and I forgot. Twiggy is a sweetheart. I personally feel the tour will go on and that Manson just wants to see how far he can piss Zombie off (which is not cool either but Zombie should have known Manson's reputation by now). So VIP wasn't affected in a negative way because of this.
Here are some of my pictures (I dont know what Im doing so hopefully they turn up on here):
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/manson1k.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/manson2.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/manson3.jpg
My reason for caring less is right in that quote. There is no other reason.
I know you. You never care'd bout nothin'!
Some things I feel the need to reply to after reading this thread over:
1. The meat & greet was not light, nor was that photo (from an oblivion back) even from the Detroit M&G.
2. I'm not really sure what the things on the side of the stage were. They were definitely NOT wings of any sort. I don't recall them being used for anything other than decorations, but we had super shitty seats. They were not Rob's.
3. Manson did indeed mention kicking Rob Zombie's ass. I've heard a few things, like that Zombie was the one who attacked him backstage. Manson showed Zsa Zsa his knuckles and such, as was mentioned before.
The meat & greet was great. My signing was pretty lame, since Manson seemed more interested in talking to the girls he chose from the line than to me, but our photo was really fun. We got to briefly meet Fred in line outside before coming into the room. Zsa Zsa had Manson sign a pair of Chucks I customized for him; Manson seemed to like them and had a roadie guy take photos of them. He also said he (Manson) should kick Rob's ass with them. Manson took my glasses off of my face and huffed on them before I walked out of the room, which was super lulzy. Photos are forthcoming, and we got a decent video of Coma White. Born Villain was playing on an iPod in the background, which was really hysterical to me.
CellarOwl
The publicity stunt thing is funny, because all I'm reading is fans worried the tour could be cancelled somewhere. Usually people don't put money into something they're not confident about. Yeah it generates publicity, but the point is to drive sales--not make people who are already on the fence about going second-guess whether they should or not... especially if there's a potential that it'll negatively affect the shows, which there is with reduced sets, etc. Nobody wants to pay for a shitty concert.
Likely it's two battling egos, two battling productions both trying to be King Shit on the tour, so they're going to cross each other. Why would Zombie sacrifice his reputation and Manson fuck over the 5-10K people who paid to see the show? You don't shit where you eat. Neither of them would be able to recover from the fallout if that was their goal.
Olivia, were you the girl on the couch in back who took a picture with Fred? could have been right after I met him and he was taking us to the bus.
Nope! We didn't go on the bus or anything. He was just wandering through the line and he popped up next to us for a mo'.
I was at the meet greet as well with a very colorful G/f named Apryl with Rainbow hair and a dead squirell shirt on. Manson did seem interested mroe in the girls than the fans, however it was a bad ass time. The shows were both awesome solid sets. I was embarassed when Rob Zombie was talking so much shit about Manson. I actually asked Manson about the turn of events and he said "it got physical" he showed me his knuckels and I said "really?" he said "yeah I didn't get these from kissing girls" he was pointing at a few marks on his left knuckles. Confirmed by Apryl because she was going to get her purse from security. According to them Rob Zombie attacked Marilyn Manson between sets.
Also have anyone recieved their photos yet?
I met Fred too he stood right next to me and I said "Hi Fred" he said "hey" and then walked off xD Twigg fucking blamed me for farting and I actually had a lot of fun talking to Twiggy. He's fucking awesome. He and Apryl were joking around alot and despite all of the girly gossip in the crowd between my g/f and some chick about Manson fucking young girls. It was excellent. I locked up because I was last in line and Twiggy was standing right next to me. I didn't know what to say because A. My ears were fucking ringing. B. The gossip distracted me from asking him any relavent questions and C. I was nervous as fucking hell xD
I think you meant to say you could not care less
.... and he was taking us to the bus.
Elaborate por favor.
Who is "he"? Fred or Manson?
HeartShapedAsses
Rock star word battle, love it.
If both of these guys weren't so old this would be much funnier
Just kinda sad to see 40 year old's beef on stage
Eh, maybe there was a normal/general fuck up and they just blew it up to get people riled up. People expect chaos out of Marilyn Manson, or at lease used too and same goes for RZ. They both love media attention. If there were any two rock n' roll bands in the world that would do something like this it would be these guys so whatever. I think the people who are actually worried about gigs being cancelled are really jumping the gun big time and I doubt it would have even crossed either of their minds.
RZ Facebook- The Twins Of Evil tour is still alive and well and headed to OHIO today! DOn't miss it.
http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/detroit/index.ssf/2012/10/rob_zombie_says_tour_with_mari.html
Hope the guys can keep it together!
Ahw, well, there is a lot of excitement and emotion involved for those who still have a concert ahead of them you know. I don't think it's all that weird those people react fiercely when anything at all occurs that might ruin their possibility to see Manson & co, and then drag a lot of other people along for the ride because something small suddenly seems like a big deal because there are some pages spent talking on it.
loftvoker
I'm sure Manson started it - he's sort of a diva.


This text by ALEX BOWRON was published alongside DAVID YU'S exhibition, Between You and I.
In the waiting room, there are more bodies than chairs. It smells stuffy and bored. There is only one seat available and a TV mounted just high enough to cause a quick kink in the neck. At least it is clear what we are supposed to do: enter the space, watch, wait, readjust, remain optimistic. This final point despite being forced to consume a fragmented over-saturation of too much information that is no information at all.
This space is not a space. This space reminds us of a space – here, and outside of here. A juxtaposition of several spaces forming a single, 'real' place. A break with traditional time.
We are uncertain of how to behave, in part, because the boundaries between hear and outside of here are not entirely clear. Our presence furthers blurs these lines. We can act ourselves (real), or we can follow the instructions (construct). Maybe there is no difference. Maybe they are not instructions. Either way, we agree to perform in/voluntary inter-relations in a communal performance of 'here'.
Once inside, we sense that the room is ripe with reconfigured energy. Stability is just movement slowed down. Vibrational matter is battered from a methodic and meticulous labour; secure in in its position of infinity between meaning and thing.
This space merges the visible and the immaterial. Like a phone call, or seeing your reflection in a mirror. It is real but not grounded. Like moving about an exhibition where each object refuses to remain in place. Activated by our presence but functioning non-hegemonically, the primitive cyborgs dictate, and are dictated by, our relative position. We dock ourselves as they do, when we run out of charge.
Between meaning and thing, an internal logic. It extends from within and in between the objects, the people, the actions. This site is all sites, defined by relations of proximity. This space is not that space due to fixed points between things. Every body has agency and purpose. It is our job to determine how we fit in.
We can see that our chance of remaining passive was abandoned unknowingly at the entrance. We agree to participate upon entry. This is what we do every time we enter. We agree within reason to behave, to work, to absorb, to engage.
The objects prioritize how they relate to each other. They are busy activating their space, encouraging action, and effecting behavior. We speculate that the real differences in the world are not between humans and non-humans, but between objects and their relations. We cannot speak purely about an object being dropped or dragged. We can only speak to our experience of the dropping and dragging; to our experience of the evidence that remains. It is only when the object breaks that we notice its qualities.
This tension extends from the object's twisted banged up folds, out towards its framing mechanism. This is the truth of understanding our world through the things we share it with. They, like us, occupy space through a series of relations: boundaries unclear and definitions fluid. We are autonomous units with agency, defined by a unified reality. They remind us that it is the space between where we should direct our focus. The objects are committed to their belonging with such vigor that we begin to believe them. After all, they have purpose, place, history, and a future. We are only here momentarily to share their world. This anthropodecentrism is the object's ontology. We are just passing through.
The experience which tests this theory is defined by relational action. Instead of proving that the objects are secondary, we can confirm, through a systematic setting up of chance, an activation of the space between. An action performed, or evidence of an action performed. These social experiments are orchestrated through a display of evidence where objects play the lead. The viewer's actions become both subject and substance of the art. Art becomes a cognitive model for philosophy – a place without a place; a place and a non-place where the space is not a space.
This is the art that you cannot see. It is the stuff of human environs. It is an interference with habit, a thing, tangible or not, created or found, that occupies a space outside of 'normal'. Its successes lie in how effectively it takes us away from the familiar. It is a subjective pathway to objectivity. The further it pushes our modes of thought, the better it becomes.
In 6000 BC, humans were polishing volcanic glass to create personal, portable reflective surfaces. We were dissatisfied from the start with our distorted portrait in water's surface, or second-hand descriptions from our peers.
The mirror space merges the visible and immaterial. It is everywhere and nowhere at once. It counteracts real space, reflecting and therefore increasing its depth, but is also a real space onto itself. It is in the mirror where we discover our absence from the place that we are: on this piece of the earth, in our head, a part of our mother, forever young. The mirror is my own gaze directed at myself. It reinforces my relationship with myself. It is the only way to see myself, and yet, I can only ever see myself inverted. It designates the space that I occupy: my body, my space, the inter-relations between. My reflection is an absolutely real, primordial, un-objectified 'I'. It is connected with all that surrounds it, complete with unique qualities that interrelate to make me whole. It is a window into the world where 'the entire picture is looking out at a scene for which it is itself a scene'.
An effective apparatus to establish perspective, and yet, everything is backwards. My reflection is equally unreal, a fictitious depth, because it cannot be touched, it cannot move unless I move, it is but the threshold to the visible world. It is isolating and penetrable at once. It is virtual, in a perpetual state of 'over there', oscillating between interior and exterior; a perpetual heterotopia that is indifferent to my gaze. It is a peering into Galileo's infinite void. It causes me to believe that I am an autonomous independent being, while causing me to question this very belief. It emphasizes my lack; causing me to yearn for that which I am not and seek profoundly a relationship between myself and the real. It is a point of connection that makes me aware of the space that surrounds my body. In private, it forces me outside of myself, in order to know myself socially. It is an exteriorizing tool, an extension of my cortex: 'I no longer see the eye that looks at me and, if I see the eye, the gaze disappears'. Within the space of the mirror, the domain of vision becomes integrated into a field of desire.
ALEX BOWRON is a freelance writer and curator based in Toronto, where she also works as Assistant Director at MKG127 and Auction Manager at the Canadian Art Foundation. She holds a BFA in Sculpture/Installation from OCADU and an MA in Critical Cultural Theory from University of Leeds, UK.
DAVID YU is a multimedia, installation, and performance artist that currently practices out of Toronto. He received a Masters in Fine Art from The Slade School of Fine Art in London, UK (2008) and his Bachelors in Fine Art from the Ontario College of Art and Design (2006). Until recently David practiced in London, U.K.,exhibiting work throughout Europe and abroad. His exhibition record includes: a one month durational performance during the exhibition Onderweg at Cultuurcentrum Zwaneberg, Heist-op-den-Berg, Belgium(2017); a solo exhibition at MART Gallery, Dublin, Ireland (2015); participation with Flux Night 2012 (Nuit Blanche Atlanta, Georgia) with a multi–channel video installation, Small Meteorites, projected within five vehicles; a city wide art installation commissioned and curated by the Duncan and Jordanstone College of Art and Design (2011), funded by the Scottish Arts Council; a solo exhibition at the Monster Truck Gallery in Dublin Ireland (2011); a Triangle Arts Trust residency and solo exhibition at the Kuona Trust Gallery in Nairobi, Kenya (2011). This summer David will be participating in a residency and organizing a solo exhibition with The Orleans Gallery in Ottawa.


An air-popper style home popcorn maker.
A popcorn maker (also called popcorn machine) is a device used to pop popcorn. Commercial popcorn machines are usually found in movie theaters and carnivals, producing popcorn of the oil-popped type, which has approximately 45% of its calories derived from fat. Hot air popcorn poppers appeared for home use in the late 1970s, which produced popcorn with only 5% of its calories derived from fat.
The original method used to pop corn was to hold and shake a wire basket filled with raw corn kernels over an open flame or fire. The result was a hot, dry, unevenly cooked and often burned snack. The Cretors machine automatically popped corn in a mixture of lard, oil, and salt. The result was a machine that popped corn in its own seasoning – uniformly for the first time ever.
Charles Cretors originated from Lebanon, Ohio. He traveled the Midwest and settled in Fort Scott, Kansas for a few years, and then Decatur, Illinois. He spent his time working in the painting and contracting business, opened a bakery, and eventually a confectionary shop. As each venture led to the next, Cretors discovered he had a passion for how things worked. As an addition to the confectionary shop, Cretors purchased a peanut roaster to broaden his offerings to include fresh roasted peanuts. Not satisfied with how the machine worked, he redesigned it to work better. It was at this time that Cretors moved his wife and family to Chicago where he felt he could become a commercial success by selling his new machine. It was 1885.
Cretors wanted to test his new roaster under everyday conditions, and he also needed money. So, he purchased a vendor's license and put his machine on the sidewalk in front of his shop to test it and sell product at the same time. The date on the vendor's license is December 2, 1885, which marks the inception of C. Cretors & Company. The new roaster was driven by a small steam engine, which automated the roasting process, which was a new concept. A chance meeting happened between Cretors and a traveling salesman who purchased a bag of roasted peanuts. The salesman, J.M Savage, was very intrigued with the new peanut roaster, and offered to sell it in his territory. Cretors agreed to the proposal, and hired his first salesman.
By 1893, Cretors had created a steam powered machine that could roast 12 pounds of peanuts, 20 pounds of coffee, pop corn, and bake chestnuts as well. Popcorn was becoming the next popular choice for snackfood. Cretors redesigned his automated roasting machine so it would roast peanuts and pop popcorn at the same time. Cretors' machine design offered several advantages over the hand-operated process. First as a machine, it made operation more predictable and it provided an attraction for both the retailer and the customer. There was the novelty of the steam engine, and the Tosty Rosty Man, a small mechanical clown that acted as a merchandiser for the machine. Cretors' machine became the first automated machine that could pop popcorn uniformly in its own seasonings. As a result, the product came out the same way every time. Cretors applied for a patent on his new automated peanut roaster and popcorn popper machine on August 10, 1891. A patent was granted on October 10, 1893.
Charles Cretors took his new popcorn wagon and peanut roaster to the Midway of Chicago's Columbian Exposition in 1893 and introduced the new corn product to the public in a newly designed machine that included a popcorn wagon. After a trial period where Cretors gave away samples of his new popcorn product, people began to line up to purchase bags of the hot, buttered popcorn.


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Travel Talk: Wolfgang Eipeldauer, Belmond Eastern & Oriental Express Train Manager
By Gayatri Bhaumik | March 13, 2019
Wolfgang Eipeldauer has spend a career transforming a childhood love of trains into a job he loves. Having joined the luxurious Belmond hospitality brand some 15 years ago, he's worked his way up from steward on Belmond's famous Venice Simplon-Orient-Express to train manager on the Belmond Eastern & Oriental Express. Along the way, he's held a range of roles on a number of Belmond trains — all of which prepared him to take the helm on one of Asia's leading train journeys. Here's what he says you need to know about a journey on the Belmond Eastern & Oriental Express.
Describe your journey to train manager on the Belmond Eastern & Oriental Express?
Since childhood, I've loved trains — especially the novel "Murder on the Orient Express" [by Agatha Christie]. I've been working for [Belmond] for almost 15 years now. Before, I was working in Paris for the Germany National Railway Service, and they wanted to close the Paris office and move to me to Germany. I decided I wanted to experience something else. So I discovered the Venice Simplon-Orient-Express and started working there as a steward. It was a great privilege to work on this train, and an honor to continue the tradition of this king of trains. I grew from steward to senior steward, and then to head cabin steward, which on the Venice Simplon-Orient-Express is basically the assistant train manager.
The next step was to go on different trains, so I went to Scotland to work on the Royal Scotsman [another Belmond train] and then had the great opportunity of launching [Belmond's] Irish train, the Grand Hibernian. I wanted to work in Asia, but had to wait until the opportunity came up on either our ship in Myanmar, or the Belmond Eastern & Oriental Express. Finally, the opportunity arose, and now I've been here for a year.
How does the Belmond Eastern & Oriental Express differ from the Venice Simplon-Orient-Express train?
The beauty of Belmond is that we offer experiences that are very tied into the local culture. You'll have a different experience in Europe than in Asia. Both trains have luxury accommodation, luxury service and very good food. But they're different flavors, each one offers different things.
As the train manager, what exactly do you do?
The position of a train manager is a very versatile and widespread one. We're in touch with the guests, we meet a lot of people, and we work with the train team to make everyone happy so they have a great memory to take away. I also look after all the different components on the train to make sure everything's running smoothly. In a regular hotel you might be able to go around the corner to pick up something quickly from a supermarket, but on a train, that's not an option, so you have to plan in advance. I spend a lot of time on planning and preparing.
Are there a lot of challenges?
Not so much. Because the train has been running for 25 years, we have reached a point of sophistication — it's a well-run ship. We do have to take care of special wishes and try to tailor for extra requests or special celebrations like birthdays.
What's your clientele like? What kind of traveler boards the Belmond EOE?
I think we have a very diverse mix of different passengers. This is part of the beauty of a rail journey. You have guests from Asia, from the States, from Europe, from Australia, from all over the world. We also have a wide range of ages — older, younger, sometimes even children! And we have a range of cultures. And you all meet on the train. It creates a feeling of mystery — you don't know who you'll encounter! That's a big part of the train journey — to make connections with other travelers. Definitely the travelers who choose train travel are usually more experienced, and enjoy discovering new things and sharing their experiences.
Why do you think guests should experience this train journey, as opposed to visiting these places through other forms of transport?
Well first, you're not dealing with the horror of packing and unpacking! You can settle into your compartment and move around, enjoy some drinks. You have all these conveniences while enjoying the cinema of the landscape through your windows. Plus you can enjoy our excursions if you want to delve into the culture a bit more. It's a nice bubble, to experience the train while still being able to engage with the local environment.
What is the one thing you think guests should know before the board the train?
Be prepared to experience something new. The beauty of the product for us is the service — you will be taken care of at a high level. You have your own cabin attendant to attend to everything, and this makes the train different from other hospitality experiences. You have the same crew taking care of you throughout the entire journey, and you build a relationship with the staff.
And pack wisely! This is a train, and while we will assist to try and find as much space as possible for everything, a train cabin is not a regular hotel suite, so space is limited. Think about what you really need for these few days and only have that in your cabin.
What are the most interesting requests you've had from guests?
We've always had things like engagements and birthdays, so we try to make it special with surprises. For example, maybe we'll stop somewhere special to allow the guests to go outside to propose. We try to really create good experiences in that sense. We don't consider anything crazy or outlandish! Everything has a reason and purpose, and deserves to be taken care of.
What's the coolest experience you've had on the Belmond Eastern & Oriental Express?
Well for new year's for example, we have a DJ onboard. We transform our observation bar into a small disco with lights and disco balls, and because it's very intimate the DJ can create a great atmosphere. So that's very cool!
Is there anything guests need to consider before travelling on the Belmond Eastern & Oriental Express?
I wouldn't really say so. We have all types of guests and we assist as much as possible in terms of physical challenges. Of course there are limitations because of the nature of the train – this is a vintage train so to adapt to all kinds of mobility issues can be challenging. But our reservations team works closely with us to find solutions to accommodate everyone.
[Editor's note: Some of the cabins on board have bunk beds, and some guests did mention that this was tricky, especially for older travellers.]
Let's talk dress code: We know we have to dress up, but how fancy are we talking?
I mean, dress code is always a big thing – it depends on the country. Passengers from the UK, for example, have a bit more of an attachment to dress codes. But times change, and there aren't many occasions now where you have strict dress codes. We encourage guests to be elegant, to make an effort. And we're prepared — if a guest wants to borrow a jacket for dinner, for example, we have them. I do think dressing up is part of the charm of the journey — it's pleasant for everyone on board, they appreciate it. People usually make more effort in the evenings. There's an old-fashioned sensibility on the train, so dressing up well fits this beautifully!
What's your personal favorite part of any journey on the Belmond EOE?
I have to say, I'm a morning person — I love mornings — that's why we have the Belmond Morning Moment. We open the observation car before sunrise and provide snacks and teas, so guests can enjoy watching the sunrise Going through the landscape and seeing the atmosphere change as the sun comes up is always a special moment for me.
If we were only able to take one train trip, why should the Belmond EOE be it?
I think it's a wonderful way to connect two very vibrant and distinctive capitals. To travel between Singapore and Bangkok…both cities offer very distinctive, fantastic experiences. It's a convenient, relaxing, and different way of going between the two cities. You don't have all the stress of the airport. And you can take in all these landscapes you wont' get anywhere else. And of course, the food is excellent, the staff has a lot of experience in offering a very warm, Asian style of hospitality – very discreet and friendly.
Belmond was recently sold to LVMH. What do you think LVHM will bring to the Belmond experience?
Well, the agreement was only signed [December 2018] so it's very fresh. I can say we're all very excited about this. I think it's a wonderful match. We are now joining a family of brands that resonate high luxury so we feel very much at home with Louis Vuitton and the like. I think it's a great family we've joined. LVMH has a track record of buying heritage brands and dealing with them in a reasonable way — they're not there to change everything — so that's very comforting for us as well.
Note: The author conducted this interview while traveling as a guest on the Belmond Eastern & Oriental Express.
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The bad weather had passed, so we moved on from Destin and anchored at the eastern end of Choctawhatchee Bay. The waterway then passes into a narrow cut known as the Grand Canyon, before going into West Bay and Grand Lagoon.
Mile 255, looking west
The waterway widens out just before West Bay
We were approaching Panama City and the area which had suffered the most devastation last October when Hurricane Michael struck. We saw lots of damage to property and vegetation. In West Bay, dredgers were busy clearing the channel.
Dredger in West Bay
Ian had identified a suitable anchorage, listed in Skipper Bob's Cruising Guide, at the far end of East Bay. But he decided we had time to go farther on, so that the next day's cruise would be shorter. Instead of Skipper Bob's anchorage, we would stay in a wide, unnamed bay on the southern shore of East Bay, which Skipper Bob had clearly overlooked.
The bay was windy and exposed, but we dropped the anchor anyway. I noticed three little planes with a rather pugnacious appearance pointing straight at us, and a check on the GPS confirmed that we were a few yards outside a high security zone. This was a little unnerving, and a few minutes later, another check on the GPS showed that we were actually drifting.
The anchor had to be pulled up, and we motored a short distance further away from the planes, and dropped the anchor once more. It was gin and tonic time, but we didn't relax for long. We were drifting again, and Ian didn't improve matters by knocking his gin over.
I suggested in a firm tone that it might be better to go to the nearest recommended anchorage. 40 minutes later, we found ourselves safely moored in Laird Bayou. A lesson had been learned, and it was that if an anchorage isn't recommended by Skipper Bob, it ain't recommended.
Evening at Laird Bayou
But tomorrow's another day. Some mornings, you wake up early, and it's just too nice to stay in bed.
Early morning at Laird Bayou
It was the promise of a fine day ahead. We left Laird Bayou for Apalachicola, out of East Bay and along another narrow cut, where the hurricane damage was all too apparent, through Lake Wimico and into the Jackson River and the Apalachicola River.
Mile 331, GIWW
We stayed 3 nights in Apalachicola, the first night in the marina on the riverfront, and the last two on the municipal dock, a few yards away, as the marina had no space. But George, the marina owner, kindly let us use the golf buggy to get to the supermarket to restock our depleted supplies.
Our mooring looked out over the swampy estuary of the Apalachicola River.
Apalachicola had been an important port for exporting cotton from all over the region, before the railways were built and transport by rail became more cost-effective. On Water Street, facing the river, there were once many brick warehouses, of which a few remain, converted into shopping malls and holiday accommodation. There are plenty of commercial fishing boats forming the basis of the local economy. The town has its own brewery, with a bar where everyone seemed to hang out, and several restaurants. We had a good dinner at the Tap Room, also owned by the Brewery. And on the Saturday morning, we walked a mile to the Farmers' Market and bought some artisan bread and organic produce.
Carina at Apalachicola
Shrimp boat, Apalachicola
The dock, Apalachicola
Apalachicola River Estuary
Water St, Apalachicola
Avenue D
Apalachicola had a taxi company, but it only had one taxi, operated by a husband and wife team. Fortunately, it was available, and able to take us out to St George's Island, a barrier island reached by two very long bridges and a long causeway. I wanted to go to the beach.
One of the bridges to St George's Island
It wasn't quite the deserted paradise I'd imagined, being fairly heavily developed, but there was plenty of space on the beach for everyone. There was a tiki bar too, so instead of enjoying the unspoilt scenery, we had a beer instead, and a paddle.
On the beach at St George's Island
St George's Island Lighthouse
We had to sit out a day of bad weather, before leaving for Carrabelle, which was where we would start our crossing of the Gulf of Mexico.
Tagged Apalachicola, Choctawhatchee bay, Destin, Grand Lagoon, Laird Bayou, St George's Island, The Tap Room, West Bay


The Society for Micro- and Nanoelectronics (GMe) was founded in 1985 as "Society for Microelectronics - Gesellschaft für Mikroelektronik" with the aim to "support microelectronics technology and its applications in an interdisciplinary way". With the shift of the focus in research from micro to nano technologies the goals of the GMe changed accordingly. In 2003, therefore, the GMe changed its name into "Society for Micro- and Nanoelectronics - Gesellschaft für Mikro- und Nanoelektronik".
Support and consulting for industry, in particular, for small and medium enterprises, within the area of micro- and nanoelectronics.
The central task of the GMe was initially the creation and maintenance of infra-structure for an internationally competitive micro- and nanoelectronics technology. The funds provided by the GMe supported a variety of projects and activities in the fields of semiconductor technology, sensors, and opto-electronics. The limited budget of the GMe restricted its direct funding to contributions to the maintenance of technological infrastructure of university-based institutions; nevertheless, the support provided by the GMe frequently stimulated the domestic industry, due to a close cooperation of most of the groups supported by the GMe with small and medium enterprises. Thus, non-university organizations also benefitted indirectly from the operation of the GMe.
By providing support for infrastructure, the activities of the GMe simultaneously aided a number of projects and activities; frequently, the support provided by the GMe was a prerequisite to an application for a project. Therefore, one of the criteria for the support of an activity by the GMe was initially a project area that needed seed money for infra-structure to obtain funding by other sources.
Due to an increasing shortage of the funding available to the GMe, infrastructure support was no more feasible. Currently, the GMe supports according to the funds available knowledge sharing in a variety of events.


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J. Phillip Holloman, president and chief operating officer (COO) of Cintas Corp., announced his retirement effective July 31.
Holloman has held a variety of leadership positions during his 22-year tenure at Cintas. Following the announcement of Holloman's retirement, Cintas has restructured its executive team. Todd Schneider, current president and COO of the company's rental division, will move to the newly created role of executive vice president and COO. Michael Thompson, current senior vice president and chief information officer, has been appointed executive vice president and chief administrative officer. J. Michael Hansen, current senior vice president and chief financial officer, will become executive vice president and chief financial officer.
Headquartered in Cincinnati, OH, Cintas Corp. provides uniforms and apparel, restroom supplies, and mats as well as first aid, document management, and fire protection services. For more information, visit www.cintas.com.


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Q: simplexml parsing with php I am trying to print out the xml child "pizza" on a php page. Though it is not working, here is my code for parsing the xml file.
<?

  $dom = simplexml_load_file("menu.xml");

  foreach ($dom->menu->categories->pizzas->pizza as $pizza)
  {
      echo $pizza;
  }

?>

This is the xml file
 <menu>
 <categories>
 <pizzas>
       <pizza>Cheese Pizza</pizza>
   <pizza>Beef PIzza</pizza>
   <pizza>Chickens Wings Pizza</pizza>
 </pizzas>
 </categories>
 </menu>

I would just like to print out the different kinds of pizzas on my php page. I would like to display a menu on the page.
I get an error of  "Trying to get property of non-object in /Applications/XAMPP/xamppfiles/htdocs/home.php on line 15"
Please Help!
Thanks

A: Remove the top level element menu from that loop and use
foreach ($dom->categories->pizzas->pizza as $pizza)
{
    echo $pizza;
}

If you do  print_r($dom); you will get a proof of that structure.

A: <?php
    $dom = simplexml_load_file("menu.xml");
    foreach($dom->categories->pizzas->pizza as $pizza) {
        echo $pizza;
    } // Try This
?>

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The Sekamatik 200 is a fully automatic, compact and odor free lifting station for grey water designed for under floor installation. It features an odor-tight cover plate with floor drain or tile frame. The frame and plate is adjustable to align perfectly with the floor level. The Sekamatik 200 has an incorporated check valve to prevent backflow.
Designed in accordance with EN 12050.


A new study highlights a major data-loss risk from ad libraries used in Android apps. The risk comes from these libraries accruing permissions from multiple apps and using them unethically to gain more access to sensitive information. The authors of the study call this practice intra-library collusion (ILC), and it will make you think twice before granting permissions to non-essential apps.
Long before free apps and websites existed, artist Richard Serra made a startling assertion about television. He said that advertisers are the customer and viewers are the product.
Intra-library collusion is a major data-loss risk for smartphone users.
The same is true of smartphone apps. When we download a free app, we are the product. Advertisers buy access to our personal information. That is what keeps the app developers in business.
We are comfortable with this arrangement because we get a valuable service from the app. A GPS app gets us where we need to go, so we consent to share some of our location data. App developers can then sell that information to advertisers to more accurately target ads.
The way that apps track revenue and determine which ads to display is through ad libraries. Ad libraries are packaged in the app in such a way that they receive the same permissions as the app itself. This means that if you give a map app permission to track your location, you also give the ad library permission to track your location.
The issue here is hard to spot. After all, what's the difference between giving permission to the app or the library? The problem is that the same ad library may be used in other apps with different permissions. And for each app, the ad library can accrue more permissions and more access to your personal information.
That is to say, an app used for GPS may ask for permission to track your location. A language-learning app may ask for permission to access your microphone. A third app may ask to access your contacts. If all three apps use the same ad library, that library now has access to your location, microphone, and contacts.
Ethically, the library should only use permissions in the app for which it was granted (e.g. the library should only access the microphone in the app that asked to use the microphone). In reality, there is nothing stopping the ad library from using all the permissions it has acquired in any of the apps it's embedded in.
This accrual of permissions means that ad libraries can aggregate unprecedented amounts of sensitive information. The various tricks that these libraries use for legitimate purposes (like avoiding ad disablers) make it hard for experts (let alone users) to understand exactly what information is being collected and sold to advertisers.
To make matters even worse, third-party libraries are often the most insecure part of an application. That means that even if the developers of an ad library are ethical, they may accidentally lose data.
The authors of the study have a pessimistic view of legal solutions for preventing intra-library collusion. Governments or app stores could attempt to limit ILC, but detecting the abuse would be difficult.
One proposed solution is privilege separation. This requires ad libraries to run as separate processes within different apps. So even if the same ad library received different permissions from different apps, the library can only use the permissions within the app it was granted from.
Unfortunately, the authors of the study do not provide advice for consumers. This problem is literally embedded in the apps we all use. Pressure on the advertising industry could one day lead to better self-regulation, but for now, consumers must protect their own information.
We recommend taking extra time to consider the information you are sharing with an app. Granting access to your microphone or your contacts puts a great deal of trust in the ad networks that partner with the app. Make sure the service that the app provides is worth the risk of personal data loss before saying yes to any permissions request.


350 story pages, 11 covers. 361 pages total.
Spring, 2002. Five years after the events of Dead City Radio, the Sabrosa arrives in earth orbit- probing psychological defenses, awakening Thad and initiating a physics-defying psychic event. The Dualist is a story of cause and effect - a study of the results of a single decision made at the climax of Dead City Radio, and the effect of that decision on several seemingly unrelated groups of individuals.
Deep space, 2002 - The Sabrosa arrives on a routine stop during what the crew has been told is a training mission. General Grij is ordered to follow up on the discovery made by the Hemera in 1997.
Raven and Tantek take advantage of a 1969 bureaucratic loophole to recruit the ex-Templar John West. General Grij struggles with the Sabrosa's long-range communications hardware while Thad's identity crisis takes a turn for the strange.
The starship Aeon briefs its sole occupant on a recent discovery.
The Daedalus sets down long enough for a crew exchange, Grij brings James up to speed, and Greymalkin and Ornix experience different sides of the condition that's driving Thad up the wall.
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text:
package org.apache.spark.scheduler.local

import java.io.File
import java.net.URL
import java.nio.ByteBuffer

import org.apache.spark.{SparkConf, SparkContext, SparkEnv, TaskState}
import org.apache.spark.TaskState.TaskState
import org.apache.spark.executor.{Executor, ExecutorBackend}
import org.apache.spark.internal.{config, Logging}
import org.apache.spark.launcher.{LauncherBackend, SparkAppHandle}
import org.apache.spark.resource.ResourceInformation
import org.apache.spark.rpc.{RpcCallContext, RpcEndpointRef, RpcEnv, ThreadSafeRpcEndpoint}
import org.apache.spark.scheduler._
import org.apache.spark.scheduler.cluster.ExecutorInfo
import org.apache.spark.util.Utils

private case class ReviveOffers()

private case class StatusUpdate(taskId: Long, state: TaskState, serializedData: ByteBuffer)

private case class KillTask(taskId: Long, interruptThread: Boolean, reason: String)

private case class StopExecutor()

/**
 * Calls to [[LocalSchedulerBackend]] are all serialized through LocalEndpoint. Using an
 * RpcEndpoint makes the calls on [[LocalSchedulerBackend]] asynchronous, which is necessary
 * to prevent deadlock between [[LocalSchedulerBackend]] and the [[TaskSchedulerImpl]].
 */
private[spark] class LocalEndpoint(
    override val rpcEnv: RpcEnv,
    userClassPath: Seq[URL],
    scheduler: TaskSchedulerImpl,
    executorBackend: LocalSchedulerBackend,
    private val totalCores: Int)
  extends ThreadSafeRpcEndpoint with Logging {

  private var freeCores = totalCores

  val localExecutorId = SparkContext.DRIVER_IDENTIFIER
  val localExecutorHostname = Utils.localCanonicalHostName()

  // local mode doesn't support extra resources like GPUs right now
  private val executor = new Executor(
    localExecutorId, localExecutorHostname, SparkEnv.get, userClassPath, isLocal = true,
    resources = Map.empty[String, ResourceInformation])

  override def receive: PartialFunction[Any, Unit] = {
    case ReviveOffers =>
      reviveOffers()

    case StatusUpdate(taskId, state, serializedData) =>
      scheduler.statusUpdate(taskId, state, serializedData)
      if (TaskState.isFinished(state)) {
        freeCores += scheduler.CPUS_PER_TASK
        reviveOffers()
      }

    case KillTask(taskId, interruptThread, reason) =>
      executor.killTask(taskId, interruptThread, reason)
  }

  override def receiveAndReply(context: RpcCallContext): PartialFunction[Any, Unit] = {
    case StopExecutor =>
      executor.stop()
      context.reply(true)
  }

  def reviveOffers(): Unit = {
    // local mode doesn't support extra resources like GPUs right now
    val offers = IndexedSeq(new WorkerOffer(localExecutorId, localExecutorHostname, freeCores,
      Some(rpcEnv.address.hostPort)))
    for (task <- scheduler.resourceOffers(offers).flatten) {
      freeCores -= scheduler.CPUS_PER_TASK
      executor.launchTask(executorBackend, task)
    }
  }
}

/**
 * Used when running a local version of Spark where the executor, backend, and master all run in
 * the same JVM. It sits behind a [[TaskSchedulerImpl]] and handles launching tasks on a single
 * Executor (created by the [[LocalSchedulerBackend]]) running locally.
 */
private[spark] class LocalSchedulerBackend(
    conf: SparkConf,
    scheduler: TaskSchedulerImpl,
    val totalCores: Int)
  extends SchedulerBackend with ExecutorBackend with Logging {

  private val appId = "local-" + System.currentTimeMillis
  private var localEndpoint: RpcEndpointRef = null
  private val userClassPath = getUserClasspath(conf)
  private val listenerBus = scheduler.sc.listenerBus
  private val launcherBackend = new LauncherBackend() {
    override def conf: SparkConf = LocalSchedulerBackend.this.conf
    override def onStopRequest(): Unit = stop(SparkAppHandle.State.KILLED)
  }

  /**
   * Returns a list of URLs representing the user classpath.
   *
   * @param conf Spark configuration.
   */
  def getUserClasspath(conf: SparkConf): Seq[URL] = {
    val userClassPathStr = conf.get(config.EXECUTOR_CLASS_PATH)
    userClassPathStr.map(_.split(File.pathSeparator)).toSeq.flatten.map(new File(_).toURI.toURL)
  }

  launcherBackend.connect()

  override def start(): Unit = {
    val rpcEnv = SparkEnv.get.rpcEnv
    val executorEndpoint = new LocalEndpoint(rpcEnv, userClassPath, scheduler, this, totalCores)
    localEndpoint = rpcEnv.setupEndpoint("LocalSchedulerBackendEndpoint", executorEndpoint)
    listenerBus.post(SparkListenerExecutorAdded(
      System.currentTimeMillis,
      executorEndpoint.localExecutorId,
      new ExecutorInfo(executorEndpoint.localExecutorHostname, totalCores, Map.empty,
        Map.empty)))
    launcherBackend.setAppId(appId)
    launcherBackend.setState(SparkAppHandle.State.RUNNING)
  }

  override def stop(): Unit = {
    stop(SparkAppHandle.State.FINISHED)
  }

  override def reviveOffers(): Unit = {
    localEndpoint.send(ReviveOffers)
  }

  override def defaultParallelism(): Int =
    scheduler.conf.getInt("spark.default.parallelism", totalCores)

  override def killTask(
      taskId: Long, executorId: String, interruptThread: Boolean, reason: String): Unit = {
    localEndpoint.send(KillTask(taskId, interruptThread, reason))
  }

  override def statusUpdate(taskId: Long, state: TaskState, serializedData: ByteBuffer): Unit = {
    localEndpoint.send(StatusUpdate(taskId, state, serializedData))
  }

  override def applicationId(): String = appId

  override def maxNumConcurrentTasks(): Int = totalCores / scheduler.CPUS_PER_TASK

  private def stop(finalState: SparkAppHandle.State): Unit = {
    localEndpoint.ask(StopExecutor)
    try {
      launcherBackend.setState(finalState)
    } finally {
      launcherBackend.close()
    }
  }

}

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text:
<?php

/**
 * @author Olle Törnström olle@studiomediatech.com
 * @since 2.1
 * @created 2010-12-25
 */
class Gallery extends BaseGallery {

	const CLASS_NAME = 'Gallery';
	const THUMBNAIL_SIZE = 120;

	// PUBLIC METHODS

	public function __toString() {
		return $this->title;
	}

	public function getPath() {
		return Baseweb::getSettings()->APP_DATAPATH . '/' . $this->path;
	}

	public function getAbsPath() {
		return Baseweb::getSettings()->APP_DATADIR . '/' . $this->path;
	}

	public function getThumbnails() {
		$thumbnails = Baseweb_FileUtils::listFiles($this->getAbsPath(), new GalleryThumbnailsFilter());
		$result = array();
		foreach ($thumbnails as $thumb) {
			$result[] = new Thumbnail($this->getPath() . '/' . $thumb);
		}
		return $result;
	}

	public function getImages() {
		return Baseweb_FileUtils::listFiles($this->getAbsPath(), new GalleryImageFilter());
	}
}


The key to understanding issues of environmental compliance begins with understanding applicable environmental regulation.
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Discussion in 'R4 DS' started by neekcotrack, Apr 16, 2009.
Has anyone used this one or even know if it works!!!
i've used it, and it's the best r4 clone out there.
i don't know about the site, but, from my experience, the card works very well.
it is fake, but works.
I will give it a try in the next week or so any get back with everyone to say how everything works, or how everything does not.
works fine, it even loads SDHC which is pretty cool.
One thing I find a lot of the R4 clones suffer from is not being able to manually cycle through the 12 themes on the card. Instead, it auto-cycles based on the month the DS is set to. Not a problem, really, just something that's come up on the NDSthemes.com forums time and again.
Go for quality and get the M3 DS Real, they have it on the DX site for $10 more, but you have a strong support team with updates.
Do you have the same one that I left a link for? Did you use a 8gb SDHC card?
I'd recommend an EDGE from DealExtreme, since they're $16 now.


State Parties to this Convention undertake to abide by the following principles: 1. Respect for democratic principles and institutions, popular participation, the rule of law and good governance.
State Parties shall strive to institutionalize good political governance through: 8. Entrenching and respecting the principle of the rule of law.
Striving for the effective fulfillment of their obligations to protect human rights and fundamental freedoms, in the spirit of the concerting of the efforts of the Contracting Parties for the purpose of asserting the ideals of freedom and the rule of law, preventing violations of human rights and fundamental freedoms, upholding the traditions of tolerance and friendship between peoples, and reinforcing civil peace and accord.
Being resolved, as the governments of European countries which are like-minded and have a common heritage of political traditions, ideals, freedom and the rule of law, to take the first steps for the collective enforcement of certain of the rights stated in the Universal Declaration.
Cognizant of the fact that the Constitutive Act of the African Union, inter alia, calls for the need to promote and protect human and peoples' rights, consolidate democratic institutions and foster a culture of democracy and ensure good governance and the rule of law.
Only transparency, impartiality and independence from political motivated manipulation will ensure proper administration of the election process, from the pre-election period to the end of the processing of results.
Member States and the Executive Secretariat shall endeavour to adopt at national and regional levels, practical modalities for the enforcement of the rule of law, human rights, justice and good governance.
Article 3 of Protocol No. 1 is phrased differently from the other provisions of the Convention and its Protocols – in terms of the obligation of the High Contracting Parties, rather than guaranteeing a specific right or freedom (see paragraph 34 above). Unlike other provisions of the Convention, such as Article 5, Articles 8 to 11, or Article 1 of Protocol No. 1, the text of this provision does not contain an express reference to the "lawfulness" of any measures taken by the State. However, the rule of law, one of the fundamental principles of a democratic society, is inherent in all the Articles of the Convention and its Protocols (see, among many other authorities, Amuur v. France, 25 June 1996, § 50, Reports of Judgments and Decisions 1996-III). This principle entails a duty on the part of the State to put in place a legislative framework for securing its obligations under the Convention in general and Article 3 of Protocol No. 1 in particular, and to ensure that its public officials charged with executing those obligations do not act outside the law, but exercise their powers in accordance with the applicable legal rules.
We reaffirm our commitment to the rule of law.
They are determined to support and advance those principles of justice which form the basis of the rule of law. They consider that the rule of law does not mean merely a formal legality which assures regularity and consistency in the achievement and enforcement of democratic order, but justice based on the recognition and full acceptance of the supreme value of the human personality and guaranteed by institutions providing a framework for its fullest expression.
In practice, however, it is not so much stability of the basic principles which needs protecting (they are not likely to be seriously challenged) as stability of some of the more specific rules of electoral law, especially those covering the electoral system per se, the composition of electoral commissions and the drawing of constituency boundaries. These three elements are often, rightly or wrongly, regarded as decisive factors in the election results, and care must be taken to avoid not only manipulation to the advantage of the party in power, but even the mere semblance of manipulation.
Stability of the law is crucial to credibility of the electoral process, which is itself vital to consolidating democracy. Rules which change frequently – and especially rules which are complicated – may confuse voters. Above all, voters may conclude, rightly or wrongly, that electoral law is simply a tool in the hands of the powerful, and that their own votes have little weight in deciding the results of elections.


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text:
<?php

namespace FSi\Component\DataSource\Driver\Collection;

use ArrayAccess;
use ArrayIterator;
use Countable;
use Doctrine\Common\Collections\ArrayCollection;
use Doctrine\Common\Collections\Collection;
use Doctrine\Common\Collections\Criteria;
use Doctrine\Common\Collections\Selectable;
use InvalidArgumentException;
use IteratorAggregate;
use Traversable;

use function get_class;
use function is_array;

class CollectionResult implements Countable, IteratorAggregate, ArrayAccess
{
    /**
     * @var int
     */
    private $count;

    /**
     * @var Collection
     */
    private $collection;

    /**
     * @param array|Traversable|Selectable $collection
     * @param Criteria $criteria
     */
    public function __construct($collection, Criteria $criteria)
    {
        if (false === $collection instanceof Selectable) {
            if ($collection instanceof Traversable) {
                $collection = new ArrayCollection(iterator_to_array($collection));
            } elseif (is_array($collection)) {
                $collection = new ArrayCollection($collection);
            } else {
                throw new InvalidArgumentException(
                    sprintf(
                        'Provided collection type "%s" should be %s or %s or array',
                        get_class($collection),
                        Selectable::class,
                        Traversable::class
                    )
                );
            }
        }

        $this->collection = $collection->matching($criteria);

        $countCriteria = clone $criteria;
        $countCriteria->setFirstResult(null);
        $countCriteria->setMaxResults(null);
        $this->count = $collection->matching($countCriteria)->count();
    }

    public function count()
    {
        return $this->count;
    }

    public function getIterator()
    {
        return new ArrayIterator($this->collection->toArray());
    }

    public function offsetExists($offset)
    {
        return $this->collection->containsKey($offset);
    }

    public function offsetGet($offset)
    {
        return $this->collection->get($offset);
    }

    public function offsetSet($offset, $value)
    {
        if ($offset === null) {
            $this->collection->add($value);
            return;
        }

        $this->collection->set($offset, $value);
    }

    public function offsetUnset($offset)
    {
        $this->collection->remove($offset);
    }

    public function first()
    {
        return $this->collection->first();
    }
}


About half across Alberta we caught up with the massive storm, and we were stuck in the middle of it until almost all the way across Saskatchewan.
The first few times a semi-truck passes you in a downpour on a two lane highway, blinding you with spray and shaking your entire car, it's a bit thrilling. The next two hundred times are somewhat less so.
But once in a while we would part ways with the storm and it would give way to beautiful views like this one.


Sometimes my daughter makes this face. And it makes her look like Yoda.
I have a confession. There is no Black Sabbath onesie. Actually, I was looking at a Black Sabbath one and a Led Zeppelin one in the shop in Austin, and I put the Black Sabbath one back in favor of the Led Zep one. Unfortunately, when I bought the Led Zep onesie, I didn't know what I was doing with respect to baby clothes, so I bought a size she probably can't wear for at least a few months.
I did, however, order Black Sabbath and AC/DC outfits from these guys. However, they ran out of stock on the particular AC/DC outfit I wanted and this delayed the shipment. Maybe it will get here before the weekend. I doubt it.
When it gets here, though, I'll snap a pic, since most of you voted that way in the poll.


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'We trusted our people, and they are doing well': Salih Muslim, PYD Rojava leader
Written on March 26, 2015 by Editor in ISIS, Kobane, Kurd news, Kurdistan, Middle East, PYD, Rojava, Syria
KT Report:
Salih Muslim
"We know our people, we trusted our people, we organised our people and the results are in front of everybody". Salih Muslim co-chairman of the PYD (Democratic Union Party), the dominant political party in Rojava (Syrian Kurdistan), last night addressed hundreds at a packed meeting in the Palace of Westminster, London. Convened by the Centre for Kurdish Progress, the platform tackled the theme 'Kurds in Syria: From Denial Toward Self-Ruled Governance Model'.
Mr Muslim, the keynote speaker, said that ISIS is effectively a tool for other powers who oppose Kurds' aspirations and "cannot accept the social democracy" now established in Rojava. The men and women fighters of the YPG and YPJ were well organised, tied to their land and their principles and "the organised people were able to defeat such a brutal force while the nation state armies of Syria and Iraq could not stand against them".
"We believe the nation state is the main source of problems in the Middle East" he said. All the region's states hold a mix of nationalities and Rojava – with its social contract guaranteeing the rights of all the components of society – can provide a model for the rest of Syria and beyond.
Mr Muslim said all the peoples of the area – Kurds, Arabs, Assyrians, and so on – had been involved in electing 101 representatives who had decided on Rojava's canton structure and encouraged the self-organisation of the population. "We trusted our people, and they are doing well".
He stressed the importance of equal rights for men and women, with quotas ensuring at least 40% women's representation in all Rojava's institutions.
Mr Muslim spoke of the young people "considered to be Kurd and Sunni" who have helped protect churches in Assyrian villages under ISIS attack. "We are proud of them", he said.
He also lauded those internationalist volunteers – Ivana Hoffmann, Ashley Johnston and Konstandinos Erik Scurfield: from Germany, Australia and the UK – who recently sacrificed their lives in Rojava, fighting and dying alongside the Kurds and others for "humanitarian values".
Mr Muslim emphasised the continuing difficulties faced during this "hard war". Rojava needs modern weapons, medical supplies and the means for reconstruction. 80% of Kobani was destroyed in the fighting. 50,000 Kurds had returned to the city but have no homes. There is everywhere shortages of electricity and water.
"We are in the frontline", he said. "We need to be supported by all the pro-democracy powers and organisations to defeat this brutal organisation and this jihadist mentality" that slaughters and enslaves. "We promise we will fight to the end to defeat ISIS everywhere".
2 Responses to 'We trusted our people, and they are doing well': Salih Muslim, PYD Rojava leader
Syrian Kurdish women representation/contribution is not strong enough in the political process in Syria.
The living plight of Syrian Kurdistan must improve. More funds need to be invested on education, development, democracy.
Rezqar Duhoki
A new geographic map has been designed for Kurdistan in 2020. It engulfs South and parts of North Kurdistan ( Turkey).
Will be available on Google very soon.
Trackback URL https://kurdistantribune.com/trusted-people-they-doing-well-salih-muslim-pyd-rojava-leader/trackback/


1) I want to test Xpert-Timer Mobile and Xpert-Timer Pro/Enterprise and the synchronization with XTSyncServer. How can I do that?
Please send an e-mail asking for a trial license to service@xpertdesign.de. The tial license file includes: 1 * Xpert-Timer Pro/Enterprise (please specify the number of users), 1 * XTSyncServer and a synchronization module. The trial period is 30 days. The mobile app, Xpert-Timer Mobile is available on Google Play.
2) Is it absolutely necessary to synchronize over the Internet? I don't want to open any ports on the router.
If you are in the local network, you can also synchronize via the local network using the XTSyncServer. This does not require the opening of ports for external access.
3) When will an iPhone App be available?
Unfortunately we don't know when and if an iPhone App will be available. Other platforms are not planned either.
4) We want to use the synchronization in a multi-user environment.
No problem. You can have multiple users tracking their time on an Android device and have them synchronize with the main database (MySQL or MS-SQL).
5) Why does Xpert-Timer Mobiile require access to the contacts?
The privilege is needed so you can import your existing contacts from the address book to the Xpert-Timer Mobile client list.
6) How do I copy the data of the trial version into the full version?
Make sure you create a backup of your trial version data on your SD card, using the backup function in Xpert-Timer Trial. Then, when you've purchased the full version of Xpert-Timer, restore the backup in the full version.
7) I've purchased the Xpert-Timer App on Google Play and now need to move to a new mobile device. What do I need to do?