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The Emerald City Beginning
The Emerald City Beginning was released in 2020 as the first episode in a planned, upcoming series about the origins of hip-hop in the Northwest. The show was created by E-Dawg and Rubik: two Town OGs who certainly have all the right credentials to deliver an authentic portrait of '80s Seattle.
They sit down with Sir Mix-A-Lot, Nasty Nes, and J-Skee. The centerpiece interview is with James "Captain Crunch" Croone, legendary emcee of The Emerald Street Boys. "Nobody could out-bop him," says J-Skee about Croone's skills on the mic. "They were sophisticated. They had no weaknesses," adds Mix.
Captain Crunch tells the story of how The Emerald Street Boys met: Sweet J stole a rhyme from Sugar Bear, or that was the rumor, and they went off to fight him. In 1982, Seattle-King County Visitors' Bureau had a contest to find a new nickname for Seattle, and "The Emerald City" was chosen. The Emerald Street Boys were originally named so as to take advantage of the newfound tourism buzz.
You'll learn about some other of the artists from the mythical start of Seattle rap: Silver Chain Gang, Frostmaster Chill, Big Boss Cross, Chelly Chell, and Supreme La Rock. And you'll learn how clueless the East Coasters were (and continue to be) about the Northwest. When Nasty Nes first brought Mix-A-Lot to NYC, the record execs said rap from Seattle was impossible, in a place "where there are only horse-drawn buggies and green grass."
The Emerald City Beginning was created in 2020 and features appearances from:
Tags Big Boss Cross, Chelly Chell, E-Dawg, J-Skee, Mobb Tyght Hustlas, Nasty Nes, Rubik, Sir Mix-A-Lot, Supreme La Rock, The Emerald Street Boys
D.Black: The Cause & Effect
Nerdy B & Chelly Chell with Incredicrew: Beyond A Shadow Of A Doubt
Sir Mix-A-Lot: Square Dance Rap
Squeek Nutty Bug: Really Cheat'n
Various Artists: Seattle… The Dark Side
The Coolout Legacy
NYC filmmaker Georgio Brown moved to the Northwest in the early '90s. In 1991, along with VJ D, he founded The Coolout Network, a public access show on cable television that would record the evolution of Seattle's early hip-hop scene. As Georgio says at the beginning of this film, "we went to the community centers, parks, schools, clubs… Every place that hip-hop was happening… We wanted to cover it." They certainly did. Coolout ran for 16 years on television, from 1991 until 2007. Various forms of the project continue online to this day.
This particular film, The Coolout Legacy was made by Georgio Brown himself. He narrates and reflects on the impact of the show and its importance to our local hip-hop community.
There's vintage footage here galore: A teenage Funk Daddy shows off a trophy "taller than me" that he won at a DJ contest, before showing us some of the moves that earned him the victory. Laura "Piece" Kelley addresses the challenges of being a woman in a male-dominated rap scene. She often faces the insult that "she can rap pretty good for a girl." But she replies, "I rap good for the world… And I don't rap good. I rap well."
Rapper H-Bomb heaps some well-deserved praise on Specswizard: "Nobody's been doing hip-hop in Seattle longer than Specs." We then catch up with the 'Wizard and he shares a book of graffiti sketches from '93. The late, great J. Moore shares his wisdom for success and acknowledges the importance of that Coolout played in "coalescing a scene."
There are numerous live performances and freestyles of Seattle legends in their early days, as well as national acts like Mary J. Blige and Leaders of The New School. Brown talks about encouraging young artists who bravely stand on a stage with a mic and bear their truths. It's hard. But with Coolout filming you, "every little victory helps," adds Ghetto Chilldren's B-Self.
The Coolout Legacy was created in 2019 and features appearances from:
Tags B Mello, B-Self, DJ Skill, DJ Topspin, E-Dawg, Felicia Loud, Funk Daddy / Greg B, Georgio Brown, Ghetto Chilldren, H-Bomb, High Performance, Jace, Laura "Piece" Kelley, Onry Ozzborn, Roc Phizzle, ShoNuph, Silas Blak, Silver Shadow D, Source of Labor, Specswizard, Supreme La Rock, The Silent Lambs Project, Vitamin D, VJ D, Wordsayer / J. Moore
Various Artists: 14 Fathoms Deep
Various Artists: Classic Elements
Various Artists: Evolution of Hip-Hop
Various Artists: Freestyle Demo Tape
Various Artists: Town Biz Mixtape
Wheedle's Groove
During the late '60s and early '70s, and decades before Nirvana, Microsoft and Starbucks put Seattle on the map, Seattle's African American neighborhood known as the Central District was buzzing. The soul sounds of groups like Black On White Affair, Cookin' Bag, and Cold Bold & Together filled local airwaves and packed clubs seven nights a week. As many of the bands began breaking out nationally via major record deals, television appearances, and gigs with the likes of Curtis Mayfield and Stevie Wonder, the public demanded disco and the scene slipped into obscurity.
Flash forward thirty years later, local cratedigger DJ Mr. Supreme unearthed Seattle's soulful past by finding a dusty 45 single by Black On White Affair in a .99 cent bin at a Seattle record show. By 2003, he had carved out an impression of a once-thriving scene with a pile of Seattle soul 45s, some of which were fetching upwards of $5,000 on the collector circuit. Supreme approached local label Light In The Attic with the idea of releasing an album compilation of his discoveries, and the result was entitled Wheedle's Groove: Seattle's Finest In Funk & Soul 1965-75. At the release party, a line of nostalgic 60-year-old fans and funk-hungry 20-somethings wrapped around the block as the musicians inside (currently working as graphic designers, janitors, and truck drivers), reflected on music dreams derailed and prepared to perform together for the first time in 30 years – their performance sizzles.
Narrated by Seattle's own Sir Mix-A-Lot and featuring interviews with local soul musicians of the era, as well as commentary from Seattle native and legendary producer Quincy Jones, jazz-pop star Kenny G (himself a veteran of the 1970's regional scene), and fresh perspectives from members of Soundgarden, Death Cab For Cutie, and Mudhoney, Wheedle's Groove proves that The Emerald City's got soul.
Wheedle's Groove was created in 2009 and features appearances from:
Tags Sir Mix-A-Lot, Supreme La Rock, Vitamin D
Diamond Mercenaries: Block Drama
M.C. Kid P with Incredicrew: King in Def Poetry
Nomad: Blessed 2 Mic Check
Sharpshooters: Danger In Your Eyes
Vitamin D: Table Manners 2
D. Black
The Cause & Effect
Today, I'm sharing the history of the 2007 G-Funk debut of D.Black, The Cause & Effect. It dropped descended from a line of hip-hop royalty: The son of James Croone (aka Captain Crunch J Croone) of Emerald Street Boys and Mia Black from Emerald Street Girls. As a youth, D.Black was mentored by Vitamin D, then co-managed by Sir Mix-A-Lot's manager Ricardo Frazer and Source of Labor's J.Moore (RIP).
At age 16, he was a co-founder of legendary Sportn' Life Records alongside Devon Manier, and a driving force behind one of our town's most important hip-hop artifacts, the 2003 Sportin' Life compilation featuring Oldominion, Narcotik, Silent Lambs Project, Frame, and others. The label also launched the careers of Fatal Lucciauno and Spac3eman.
So in the middle of this tornado, 19-year-old D.Black released The Cause & Effect, a debate-ending anvil from a talented prodigy. It features production from hip-hop heavyweights: Bean One, Jake One, Supreme La Rock (as part of The Conmen), Fearce, and Ryan Croone (famous for the funky gangsta sound of Squeek Butty Bug's excellent Really Cheatin' from 1997). A bunch of cuts were produced by D.Black himself. Every track oozes confidence and certainty. There are so many gems here.
Like most mid-00 CDs, 19 tracks fill the full 72-minute capacity, and there are features galore from Fatal, Choklate, J. Pinder, Dyme Def, and The Parker Brothaz. This a true Seattle classic available on Spotify and Bandcamp. Go listen today.
Here's a curious twist to the story: Shortly after releasing this record, D.Black abandoned his gangsta roots and cut ties with this project. Years later, he finally returned to the mic under a new name, Nissim, and a new identity as a black Orthodox Jewish hip-hop artist based in Israel.
The Cause & Effect was created in 2007 and features appearances from:
Tags BeanOne, Choklate, D.Black, Dyme Def, Fatal Lucciauno, Fearce Vill, J. Pinder, Jake One, Ryan "RC" Croone, Supreme La Rock, The Parker Brothaz
Gangsta Nutt: Save Me
Mr. Supreme
Love Saves The Day
Love Saves The Day was created in 2007 and features appearances from:
Tags BeanOne, Supreme La Rock
Dyme Def: Space Music
Grayskul: Deadlivers
Silas Blak: Silas Sentinel
Specs One: The Long Awaited Mega EP
Various Artists: Walkman Rotation
Sharpshooters
Danger In Your Eyes
This is 2003's Danger in Your Eyes EP by Seattle hip-hop group Sharpshooters. They were active for ten years, from the mid-90s to the mid-00s. The duo was made up of Supreme La Rock and DJ Sureshot. This particular EP has them going head-to-head with dueling remixes. Supreme's side is pounded with a four-to-the-floor bass kick. It's spare—just that and vocals from Christina Honeycut in a reverb-filled room. Sureshot's interpretation shifts focus to a spritely snare drum and upbeat snap. DJ scratches add extra texture. The two mixes are similar enough that you keep wanting to flip the record over again to compare them further.
Danger In Your Eyes was created in 2003 and features appearances from:
Tags Christina Honeycut, DJ Sureshot, Supreme La Rock
Selassie I Soldier: General Inna Penitentiary
Sharpshooters: Buck The Saw
Sharpshooters: Choked Up
Sharpshooters: Twice As Nice
The Silent Lambs Project: Comrade
Third Degree: Better Days
Love Walked Past Remixed
Love Walked Past Remixed was created in 2003 and features appearances from:
Tags MC Lut, Sharpshooters, Supreme La Rock
Sharpshooters: Massacre Remixes
Twice As Nice was created in 2003 and features appearances from:
Tags Christina Honeycut, Sharpshooters, Supreme La Rock
Mr. Supreme: Love Saves The Day
Sharpshooters: Love Walked Past Remixed
EMP: Seattle Hip-Hop
This short film about the history of Northwest hip-hop was shot by Darek Mazzone in 2001. It was made to highlight the local scene as part of the "Hip-Hop Nation" exhibit put on by the Experience Music Project in Seattle.
There's a lot packed into four minutes, including all-too-brief interviews with Sir Mix-A-Lot, DJ Riz, Wordsayer, Mr. Supreme, Kutfather, Piece, and others. They cover off what hip-hop is and whether or not it's a fad. Supreme explains the four elements, you learn the story of NastyMix and The Emerald Street Boys, and Topspin does some cool scratching.
At one point, DJ Riz shares the most wonderfully Seattle thing ever: "Seattle was there right from the beginning, close to the origins of regular hip-hop." Go devote the next four minutes to learning some new knowledge about the culture.
EMP: Seattle Hip-Hop was created in 2001 and features appearances from:
Tags Beyond Reality / Kylea, DJ Riz, DJ Topspin, Kutfather, Laura "Piece" Kelley, Marisol, Nasty Nes, Sir Mix-A-Lot, Supreme La Rock, The Emerald Street Boys, Wordsayer / J. Moore
Beyond Reality: The Revival
Nomad da Nomadic
Blessed 2 Mic Check
Blessed 2 Mic Check, the wax debut from Nomad Da Nomadic, is a quintessential slab of NW wax, and in many ways typified the Seattle area hip-hop scene in the late nineties. What that means is basically it was hella dope and you missed it. With production by Mr. Supreme on the title cut, and DJ Sayeed and DJ Swift on the two B-sides, this record is sonically tight – especially Sayeed's track "Da Movement," which happens to feature Sayeed's group Black Anger. "Shantae," Swift's slower number, comes with its own bonus, as it's blessed by local heroine Felicia Loud on the hook. Nomad has no problems holding his own amid all this greatness, and in fact, his direct and gritty flow is surprisingly complimentary to the bombastic delivery of Black Anger and Felicia's gorgeous crooning. Likewise, the beats fit Nomad's style perfectly, especially Swift's dark and sedated track, with its murky organ and vibe loops. From here, Nomad went on to release a couple 12″s in 2000 and 2001, as well as a full-length in 2001. His entire output is strong and worth tracking down. (This review originally appeared on the Bring That Beat Back blog and was written by Jack Devo.)
Blessed 2 Mic Check was created in 1998 and features appearances from:
Tags Black Anger, DJ Sayeed, DJ Swift, E-Real Asim, Felicia Loud, Kindu Shabazz, Nomad, Supreme La Rock
Bedroom Produksionz: S.E.L.F.
Black Anger: Damn!… Da Demo
Black Anger: Maxed Out Singles
Nomad da Nomadic: Sedated Thoughts
The Silent Lambs Project
Most people 'round these parts don't know it, but Washington ranked right behind New York and California on the list of most-prolific states for underground hip-hop releases in 1998. True, most rap fans probably couldn't name three or four Northwest groups to save their lives (Mix-A-Lot doesn't count, dude), but we're coming up, slowly but surely, building a track record with consistently good releases and the label infrastructure to support.
One such label is Olympia's own K Records, which, along with Impact Entertainment, has dropped critically acclaimed releases from Black Anger, Bedroom Produksionz, and a whole slew of Northwest talent on the 1998 compilation, Classic Elements.
The Silent Lambs Project represents a collaboration between MCs Blak (of Blind Council) and Jace. The duo's abstract lyrical style is fueled by production from DJ Sayeed, Mr. Supreme, King Otto, and Specs. Though the songs all stand out as individuals, "No J.R.," "Stand Over Him" and "S.L. Shit" particularly beg to be blended into a soundtrack for your walk through the streets as gray clouds loom ominously overhead.
"Comrade" is the EP's single, featuring guest vocals from Kendo of Black Anger and a mellow, CTI Jazz-sounding flute loop courtesy of DJ Sayeed. But the stand-out cut of the record is "Paid Poet," produced by the Northwest's most underrated beat miner, King Otto. Given a little more bounce and bassline, Otto's work here could easily transform into mundane jigginess for some type-shallow MC to spit over. Lucky for us, he keeps it more mysterious, presenting a nice complement to Blak's sedately frenetic flows.
All in all, Comrade is a very Northwest-sounding record. Who knows if the rest of the world can identify with those rain clouds overhead? As long as you have your soundtrack, it really doesn't matter. Pop the Silent Lambs' joint in your Walkman and leave your umbrella at home. (This review originally appeared in The Rocket and was written by Strath Shepard.)
Here's another take:
Few acts come out the gate as strong as The Silent Lambs Project did here. This debut EP from 1998, with the signature abstract, cerebral, and head-scratching poetry from Jace and Blak, devastates from beginning to end. But nothing less should be expected from this duo.
In 1998, both lyricists were veterans of the scene: Jace as a part of Fourth Party, and Silas holding it down in Blind Council. But listening to this release, you'd think they'd been in the same group forever. Both are foils to the other: Blak's delivery is edgy and filled with tension, while Jace's floats smoothly and effortlessly over the beat. The two deliver perfection like yin and yang.
Joining them on the various tracks are some of Seattle's top producers: DJ Sayeed from Black Anger/Bedroom Produksionz provides the title track and "SL Shit", King Otto's on deck for "Paid Poet", Mr. Supreme from the Conmen shows up for "No J R", and SpecsOne produced "Stand Over Him". Kendo from Black Anger also shows up on the title track, "Comrade." (This review originally appeared on the Bring That Beat Back blog and was written by Jack Devo.)
Comrade was created in 1998 and features appearances from:
Tags DJ Sayeed, Jace, Kindu Shabazz, King Otto, Silas Blak, Specswizard, Supreme La Rock, The Silent Lambs Project
Black Stax: Talking Buildings
Silas Blak: 1986
The Silent Lambs Project: Soul Liquor
Classic Elements was released by Olympia's K Records in 1998. It contains tracks by sixteen Northwest hip hop artists, including some certified legends. The lyrics are consistently excellent throughout the compilation. These are songs for the mind, and many are vignettes in the true sense of the word, a good example being the captivating saga contained in "A.N.I.T.A." by Nobody. The production on Classic Elements glows softly like a vintage Edison light bulb. DJ Sayeed (Black Anger) and Brian Weber (Dub Narcotic) both play a large role in shaping the sound of this compilation. Mr. Supreme drops a sublime Twin-Peaks-esque beat for Jace on "What's Ya Definition," and Topspin captures a tempest in a teapot with his beat for "Sleep" by Sinsemilla. Every track on this compilation is a genuine artistic expression, and that carries some risk because the performers put their feelings out on display which renders them vulnerable to misunderstanding, or worse, indifference. One of the highlights is "Hip Hop Was" by Ghetto Chilldren, which shines with professional polish among some of the dustier tracks. When you include a track by Source of Labor with Beyond Reality, "Aunt Anna," and a couple of underground heat rocks from Silas Blak, "Only When I'm High," and "Blak And Blind," there's every reason to make sure this compilation is part of your music collection. (Written by Novocaine132.)
Like the four leaves on a lucky clover, four '90s era Seattle compilations showcase the diverse hip-hop collectives in Washington State and with them your windfall of sounds and explorations: Do The Math, 14 Fathoms Deep, Walkman Rotation, and here, Classic Elements (co-released by Impact Entertainment and K Records). Back then getting the handful of cassettes and comps was a great thrill, and the Seattle area offered up the best. Classic Elements was released at a time when the main place to hear local hip-hop was on the street at Westlake Center or on KCMU's Rap Attack. Like the title, the classics here are Ghetto Chilldren, Source Of Labor, Black Anger, and Tilson, all offering hits that transcend national radio rap and bring a better class of words and thoughts. Some groups won't be found outside of this collection – Nobody, Jaleel, 5E, Ski, and Arson have songs that play smooth and timeless. Classic Elements is as relevant today as it was twenty-some years ago. Released on cassette, CD, and on an abbreviated LP – Find it, get it. Good! (This review was submitted by reader Brett Sandstrom.)
Classic Elements was created in 1998 and features appearances from:
Tags 5E, Arson, Bedroom Produksionz, Beyond Reality / Kylea, Bitzo One, Black Anger, Brian Weber, D-Verbalist, DJ Sayeed, DJ Topspin, Ghetto Chilldren, Jace, Jaleel, Mathematic, Negus 1, Nobody, Nomad, Shaggy C, Silas Blak, Sinsemilla, Ski, Soulstice, Source of Labor, Supreme La Rock, Tilson, Troubled Sums, Vitamin D, Wordsayer / J. Moore
Walkman Rotation
Conception Records was founded in Seattle in 1993 by a team including Sureshot and Mr. Supreme, two enterprising DJs who also performed locally in their band Sharpshooters. Over the next three years, Sharpshooters dropped a couple of projects on Conception, each of which is now certified holy grail status. Then in 97/98, the label flooded Seattle with a ton of banging new hip-hop singles. Walkman Rotation is basically a Conception records compilation that contains the best tracks from that era. Hearing them all together is such a valuable resource and this comp gives the listener instant access to that time period. Jake One and Supreme made most of the beats, and the sound is slow, blunted, and totally addicting. Highlights include "Any Last Words" by Supreme, "Essay On Pseudoism" by Jake One feat. Arcee, and "My Position" by Eclipse. There are two Conmen (Supreme & Jake One) instrumental beats here as a bonus so all you aspiring MCs can practice at home. Walkman Rotation has aged into the 21st century like a fine wine. This is a 206 classic! (Written by Novocaine132.)
Ranked right up there, this fantastic '98 compilation from Seattle's Conception Records got dubbed to TDK on the first listen, and then that tape LIVED in my tape deck for months. It's a dope collection of all-Conception artists, many of them from the Northwest, but also featuring cats from places as diverse as Cali, Ohio, and Canada. Producers Jake One and Mr. Supreme pretty much set the screw-faced theme and run the show here, concocting their signature blunted urban atmospherics. As beatmakers go, I always thought these two worked incredibly well together – their beats quite often were placed on opposite sides of the vinyl from one another, creating two distinct, yet complementary moods. It's one of the reasons Conception wax was always such a pleasure to hear; they were more than just singles–they were cohesive and complete documents, thanks to the ebb and flow Jake and Supreme set down. Another reason for Conception's greatness, obviously, was the amazing lyrical talent. I swear, there wasn't a weak verse in their entire catalog. This comp features many of the dopest tracks from Conception's short-lived output. Fourfifths, Kutfather, Arcee, Eclipse, Third Degree, and Samson represent vocally with tracks off of their various 12″s, with outside production by Samson & Swift on their track and MoSS one of Eclipse's tracks. In addition, there is exclusive output on this comp from J-Rocc, Diamond Mercenaries, Jake One, 3D, and Arcee. It's more than just an overview of the label, it's crucial listening. Period. The CD version was given the Beat Junky treatment, with J-Rocc providing the tracks in mixed form, keeping shit funky. The vinyl comes unmixed, so you can hear each track in its complete form. Listening to it as I write, it's still as mind-blowing and groovy as it was when I first heard it. (This review originally appeared on the Bring That Beat Back blog and was written by Jack Devo.)
Walkman Rotation was created in 1998 and features appearances from:
Tags 3D (Damion Reed), Arcee, Carl Johnson, Conmen, Diamond Mercenaries, DJ Ace, Eclipse, Fourfifths, J Rocc, Jake One, Kutfather, Samson & Swift, Supreme La Rock, Third Degree
Fourfifths: Earth Wind & Fire
Jake One: No Introduction
Diamond Mercenaries
Block Drama
In 1997, when Block Drama hit the streets, all signs pointed to rap group Diamond Mercenaries being the next big thing from Seattle. The hip-hop duo of Black Star and 3D took their name from a 1976 heist film starring Peter Fonda and OJ Simpson. "Introducing brand new casting on your block," is how the track begins, with a banging beat courtesy of hot new producer Jake One (appearing for the first time on vinyl) and based off a sample from Seattle royalty Quincy Jones. The thought-provoking verses that follow cover quick money made, making deals, street survival strategies… "Crime's my only topic." The vinyl-only "Block Drama" single was the seventh release from hip indie label Conception, founded only a few years earlier by superstar DJ Supreme La Rock, Shane Hunt, and The Flavor's Strath Shepard. And yet… Despite much promise, heaps of praise from critics and DJs, and a rumored full-length album recorded and ready, Diamond Mercenaries only ever released this single and a couple of other standalone songs, none of which are available online today. Conception folded not long after and that album never materialized. Diamond Mercenaries blazed bright like a match for only a moment in time. In an interview in The Rocket, Black Star says, "If we get on TV, that's cool and all, but I ain't doing it to get on a video. I ain't doing it to flash gold and diamond rings and all that. I'm doing this to make y'all rock. That's what I love to do."
Block Drama was created in 1997 and features appearances from:
Tags 3D (Damion Reed), Black Star, Diamond Mercenaries, Jake One, Supreme La Rock
PD2: Suprize
Fourfifths
Earth Wind & Fire
From '97, here is the lone single by Cuneiform and Sub-Zero (AKA Trust and Nickle Slick, at least according to the interwebs), collectively known as Fourfifths. I'm not sure where these cats are from, but this release was on Mr. Supreme's Conception Records, so the chances are they were Seattle emcees.
Side A contains the Remix of "Earth, Wind & Fire," with an early production effort by Jake One. Side B has the original version of "Earth" as well as "The Science," both by Supreme. I'm struck by how different the two versions of "Earth Wind & Fire" are from one another. Jake One's beat gives the track a slinky, nocturnal, and dangerous vibe, while Mr. Supreme's trademark penchant for melancholia turns the song into a world-weary grind. Oddly enough, Supreme's beat totally wins out. (In fact, I think it's one of the best cuts he's ever done.) It's an infectious and beautiful track with a melody that sticks with you.
Apart from this 12″, Fourfifths can also be heard on two of the best tracks from the Sharpshooters' Choked Up ("Analyze" and "Trust No One"). It's a shame that they didn't go further, because as their slender output attests, they were heat. (This review originally appeared on the Bring That Beat Back blog and was written by Jack Devo.)
Earth Wind & Fire was created in 1997 and features appearances from:
Tags Cuneiform, DJ Ace, Fourfifths, Jake One, Nickle Slick, Sub-Zero, Supreme La Rock, Trust (The Soul Trooper)
Selassie I Soldier
General Inna Penitentiary
From Conception Records back in 1997. DJ Sureshot and Mr. Supreme on deck. Sureshot produced the A-side, while Supreme provided his ample programming skills. The Diamond Mercenaries show up to add flavor on the b-side, where Supreme handled all production duties. This dancehall-infused 12″ is sadly all Selassie I Soldier ever released commercially. I say sadly because both the original and remix are truly infectious tracks. More dope Seattle flavor that went under the radar. (This review originally appeared on the Bring That Beat Back blog and was written by Jack Devo.)
General Inna Penitentiary was created in 1997 and features appearances from:
Tags Diamond Mercenaries, DJ Sureshot, Selassie I Soldier, Supreme La Rock
Third Degree
This three-song EP from Third Degree was recorded at both Audio Genesis and Mr. Supreme's Wax Museum in Seattle, WA. I wish I had more insight into MC Third Degree, but this guy has flown under my radar since I first heard this back in '98. He name-checks Seattle, South Carolina, LA, and a few other spots along the way. I don't think he ever released anything else, but then again, maybe he did. Yep. I know nothing. In usual Conception fashion, Mr. Supreme provides the beat for the excellent "Better Days", while Jake One handles production duties for the flipside ("Uprising"). Third Degree definitely broadcasts his influences in his delivery (think Smif N Wessun), and Jake and Supreme cater their beats to fit. Actually, listening to Supreme's music you can tell he's a big fan of Boot Camp as well. In any case, the record is dope: This is timboot-stomping and infectious music. (This review originally appeared on the Bring That Beat Back blog and was written by Jack Devo.)
Better Days was created in 1997 and features appearances from:
Tags Jake One, Supreme La Rock, Third Degree
Here is an entirely terrific album of grooved beats, laidback flows, judiciously selected samples (lots of funky jazz), and first-rate production. The fact that it's by two locals–Mr. Supreme and Sureshot–means that it's the first album to offer the full scope of a Seattle hip-hop band over the course of an entire LP instead of a narrow glimpse, like those offered on recent Seattle hip-hop comps 14 Fathoms Deep and Do the Math.
Choked Up starts with an absolute wallop as "Lifted," an organ vamp with a beat, intros the LP. The first real song, "Heavyweight," features a fat, acid jazz horn chart squatting on top of strong percussion. There's a taste of entirely palatable turntable work as the first impression hits like a bolt from the blue: Could this be jazz and hip-hop? Could this be really, really good jazzy hip-hop?
The third track establishes the legitimacy of Sharpshooters. They begin with "Analyze," a drifting, underwater beat just long enough to set the stage for the boss rhymes of Trust (The Soul Trooper). At this point, the album is about perfect. Three fat tracks, not a dud. When Trust drops a thoroughly chilled line about our favorite hoops team, it seems just like hip hop heaven.
The LP rolls, moving easily forward instrumentals dovetailed perfectly wh the raps. The beats are brisk, the horns well-tempered, the flows right on production huge, and the guest appearances (Kylea, Wordsayer, and Mad Fanatic) add to the album while not subtracting from the band.
Presently, there is a load of overhyped hip-hop from which to choose. Much of it, especially from the big-name, big-image rappers, doesn't measure up. This record delivers. The fact that they're local and sending shoutouts all over town is just gravy. (This review originally appeared in The Rocket and was written by S. Duda.)
Choked Up was originally released on Conception Records and later reissued on New York-based Shadow Records. In the time they were around, Shadow managed to introduce some of the most memorable and enduring acid jazz records to the American audience. DJ Krush had his American debut with his album Krush, as did DJ Cam's Mad Blunted Jazz. Funki Porcini, 9 Lazy 9, Dj Food, and Up, Bustle, and Out were just a few other notable names on Shadow's roster. Shadow was distinctive and catered to a specific audience who was into trendy, late-90's trip-hop and acid jazz. Although the Sharpshooters were a Northwest group, I probably wouldn't have known about them if they hadn't been part of the Shadow Records family… Even if I did live in the same city as them.
The Sharpshooters were a duo consisting of Seattle producers Mr. Supreme and DJ Sureshot. Supreme distributed their work on his own indie hip-hop label, Conception Records. And, although they were local, Conception at that time was just starting and had some steam to build still. So, it was through a distribution deal with a label that specialized in waking up American audiences to foreign artists that I heard about a group and label that lived a couple of miles from me. Their sophomore release, Choked Up, is a cool, blunted slab of jazzy hip-hop. Flutes, saxes, and vibes dominate the mix as much as the drum loops do, creating a smoky blend of coffee-house jazz hop. Vocal guests including Four Fifths, Mad Fanatic, and Kylea from Beyond Reality add flavor to a few select tracks.
I have an idea. Do yourself a favor; save this record for the summer. Put this on a playlist along with other like-minded albums of the time (Krush's self-titled record, Digable Planets' Blowout Comb, and Guru's Jazzmatazz vol.2 are good recommendations). Find something pretty to look at. Then sit back in the evening, let the records play, and see where you go. (This review originally appeared on the Bring That Beat Back blog and was written by Jack Devo.)
Choked Up was created in 1996 and features appearances from:
Tags Beyond Reality / Kylea, DJ Sureshot, Fourfifths, Jake One, Mad Fanatic, Nickle Slick, Royal Jazz, Sharpshooters, Supreme La Rock, Third Degree, Trust (The Soul Trooper), Wordsayer / J. Moore
Buck The Saw
The Sharpshooters let us have just a little bite of what they were dishin' out on 1993's acid jazz Home Cookin' compilation released a few months back. It was rich and luscious, but only a taste; turntables, organ, sax, bass, drums all groovin' on a new kind of jazz high.
I don't want to scare you beat-lovin', street-sign shakin' folks away—I use "jazz" to describe these locals because it's the quickest way to give you an idea of what they have accomplished on this slab. Just about all the cuts on Buck The Saw would rock the foundations on any club in town. Still, this ain't much more than an appetizer. Barely over 26 minutes at best. You really start sweatin' to the smooth textures created by Supreme and Daddae Chill when, like a climax without orgasm, it's over. Well, it only leaves you wantin' more. (This review originally appeared in The Rocket and was written by Scott Griggs.)
Buck The Saw was created in 1994 and features appearances from:
Tags Sharpshooters, Supreme La Rock
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Massacre Remixes
If you haven't checked out The Sharpshooters' Buck The Saw EP, you better go get it now. It's a jazz conceived EP filled with beats, instruments, and breaks that hit hard to give it a hip-hop vibe. The first single released off the EP is Massacre Remixes. The remix features Mad Fanatic rhyming and it's tight. "Massacre" has a creeping bassline and Mad Fanatic proves an East-Coast-influenced, gritty vocal presence as he speaks with hardcore stress lyrics. No doubt about it, this single is to get. Locally produced by Supreme, this remix is solid and just sounds good. If you haven't checked out the EP, you better, and for those of you who have, I know you've been waiting for this one to hit. Be on the lookout for it. (This review originally appeared in The Flavor and was written by S.K. Honda)
Massacre Remixes was created in 1994 and features appearances from:
Tags Mad Fanatic, Sharpshooters, Supreme La Rock
MC Class
Brother From The Projects
This is a rare one. Seattle rapper MC Class released this classic NW tape back in '93. Recorded at Shoreline Community College just north of Seattle (and where I went to school for audio engineering), these six songs evoke hip-hop's golden age. Guest emcee Legacy shows up on one track and Supreme supports with beats on at least a few of these tracks. (This review originally appeared on the Bring That Beat Back blog and was written by Jack Devo.)
Brother From The Projects was created in 1993 and features appearances from:
Tags Legacy, MC Class, Supreme La Rock
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See Level 1991-1993 EP
In 1992 when Seattle rap supergroup Brothers Of The Same Mind broke up, the five members each went their separate ways. The following year, MC Class dropped a solo six-song cassette called Brother From The Projects and a vinyl 12-inch of "Hope You're Listening" with "Fishin." A label called Chopped Herring put out an MC Class EP called See Level in 2014, which revisits some of his best work.
First on the A-Side of the Chopped Herring release is "See Level." This track sinks into a very visual ocean theme, the listener is fully submerged in the language. "Hope You're Listening" from the 1993 12-inch is next. Born Supreme produced it and the drums are straight-up off the hook. The lyrics contain name checks of Boogie Down Productions and Public Enemy. After that is "Fishin," which was also released in 1993. MC Class is one of the smoothest all-around rappers ever in Seattle. His voice is chilled like a bottle of sparkling water, yet still undercover gruff like a Kodiak bear. "Fishin" has that groovy "Jazzmatazz" magic, and the lyrics are full of metaphors about life lessons and trying to live with less daily stress. It is a good companion piece to "See Level", because they are both about the ocean as a theater for our lives. "See Level Acapella" is the last track on Side A.
The B-Side starts with "Trippin," found on Brother From The Projects. Just a hint of the Edie Brickell folk staple "What I Am" emerges softly through the beat. Class is once again getting philosophical about life, finding answers to the big questions. The piano-based melody is soft and light. Next, we have "Brother From The Projects," an autobiographical song containing real events that Class went through, which makes it highly relatable. Then the B-side gives us two bonus tracks from pre-breakup Brothers Of The Same Mind. "Soul 2 The Rhythm" is one of the most energetic tracks from BOTSM, and the song was featured on the group's self-titled 1991 cassette. The production is heavy like a construction site: Hard hats are required. The last track on Side B is "Step Up To The Mic" which is the previously unreleased BOTSM track here. "Step Up To The Mic" is a posse cut on which Tracy Armour and Dwayne Tasker join Brothers Of The Same Mind on the microphone. Lots of bars here, very dense concepts and lyrics to chew on.
Postscript: The Brothers got back together in 2021, and re-released their expanded album from 1991 titled Gotta Have Style on Dust and Dope Recordings. The group has plans for an upcoming release of new material recorded in 2021 and 2022. (Written by Novocaine132.)
See Level 1991-1993 EP was created in 1993 and features appearances from:
Tags Brothers of The Same Mind, MC Class, Supreme La Rock
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Incredicrew & Nerdy B & Chelly Chell
Beyond A Shadow Of A Doubt
This lost album was supposed to have been released in 1989.
On the heels of their success with 1987 song "King In Def Poetry," buzzy production duo Incredicrew—Cornell "CMT" Thomas and Danny "Dee Rock" Clavesilla—signed a multi-album deal with Chilly Uptown's label Ever Rap, with the intention they'd be in-house producers for a number of upcoming hip-hop projects. The first of these was a one-off single by Nerdy B and Chelly Chell called "He's Incredible."
It was one of Seattle's first major rap songs with a female MC, and it was a big hit locally. Nasty Nes said that when he played the song on his radio show Fresh Tracks, his phone lines lit right up with requests to hear it again.
Based on that first single's hype, Nerdy B, Chelly Chell, and Incredicrew went back into the studio to record a full album of furious scratching and charming verses. One of our favorite aspects of this vinyl is how elements from the song "He's Incredible," reappear throughout many of the other songs as a repeated motif.
However, financial troubles with the label's distributor meant this 1989 project—and the whole Incredicrew deal—was shelved and these master tapes sat forgotten on the shelf for 31 years. The Beyond A Shadow Of A Doubt tapes were finally rediscovered, remastered, and released by Ever Rap on vinyl in 2020.
It's hard not to wonder how Seattle's early '90s rap landscape and this early "NastyMix" era might've looked quite different had this record been released as planned!
This vinyl contains 11 tracks of Nerdy B's furious scratching and Chelly Chell's clever rhymes. There are also two versions of their classic hit, "He's Incredible," a song that got Nasty Nes's phones ringing off the hook. Against a backdrop of Nerdy B's furious scratching, Chelly Chell raps hypnotically, "We got beats and bass, yeah, now we're on wax… Now how ya like that?!"
It may have taken 30 years, but yes, finally.
Beyond A Shadow Of A Doubt was created in 1989 and features appearances from:
Tags Chelly Chell, CMT, Incredicrew, Nerdy B, Supreme La Rock
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Sir Mix-A-Lot: I Want A Freak
Incredicrew & MC Kid P
King in Def Poetry
On his 1986 single, "I'm A Trip," Mix-A-Lot positioned his computer music against the threat of talented turntable DJs. One Seattle rival were Incredicrew, a duo of teenage wunderkind producers: Cornell "CMT" Thomas and Danny "Dee Rock" Clavesilla, who we'd later come to know as Mr. Supreme.
This vinyl is one of the few early-period hits from '80s Seattle rap that's doesn't originate from the Mix-A-Lot/NastyMix camp. As a teenager, Danny Dee was a talented BMX rider. He toured around the country and was exposed early to NYC's new breakdancing scene, years before the rest of the Northwest got hip to hip-hop.
Once home, he'd practice his own samples and scratching and breaks, eventually becoming official DJ for The Seattle Circuit Breakers, one of the Town's first major breakdancing troops. Not long after, he and CMT formed Incredicrew, and they began producing beats for local rappers.
This was their first vinyl, with M.C. Kid P, a Reno-based rapper who spends most of his verses introducing the band and praising his DJs: "Yo Danny Dee Rock, show 'em why your hand is like a knife…" In turn, Danny smacks down numerous sequences of famous samples, hyping up the party ever higher. It's a fun song, presented in three versions. The B-Side cut "High Powered Hip-Hop" celebrates CMT's work on the drum machine with a descending, dark sub-bass melody that dominates the tune.
Two fun facts: Incredicrew appear in Mix-A-Lot's "Posse on Broadway" video as the rival crew in the infamous Dick's parking lot scene. And this Incredicrew project was recorded in the very same room where, two years later, Nirvana would record "Bleach" and usher in the Tsunami that was Grunge. For a brief sliver of the waning '80s, rap had become Seattle's primary musical export.
King in Def Poetry was created in 1987 and features appearances from:
Tags CMT, Incredicrew, MC Kid P, Supreme La Rock
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Various Artists: Solar Power: New Sounds in Seattle Hip-Hop


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After Sessions, expect an AG who embraces the 'unitary executive' for Trump
By Victoria Nourse
Nov 08, 2018 | 10:25 AM
President Donald Trump (L) sits with Attorney General Jeff Sessions (R) before participating in the FBI National Academy graduation ceremony on Dec. 15, 2017 in Quantico, Virginia, (NICHOLAS KAMM / AFP/Getty Images)
If past is prologue, President Trump will seek an attorney general who pledges to be ultra-aggressive in protecting him. That means the new attorney general may well take unprecedented actions against Robert Mueller's investigation and fight back hard against every other legal issue facing the President, whether the challenge involves tax returns, children at the border or birth-right citizenship.
He may already have such a man in Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker.
The new permanent attorney general could embrace the most hardline legal view of executive power known by the name "the unitary executive." The idea, as Justice Antonin Scalia once wrote in a dissenting opinion, is that the Constitution grants the President "all" executive power. To quote Scalia, that does not mean "some of the executive power, but all of the executive power." In short, the President has full and total control over the executive branch, including all of its agencies.
Imagine that the House Ways and Means committee requests the President's tax returns, which they can under an existing law. Under the unitary executive theory, the President "alone" (the term used by Justice Brett Kavanaugh in a recent opinion) has control over the executive branch. Since the President controls the IRS, he can tell the head of the IRS to to ignore Congress's request on the theory that the law is unconstitutional as applied to the President.
The House would then have to go to court to force the President to comply. Lower courts may well reject the claims that a President can just ignore a statute — the general understanding of most lawyers. But the Supreme Court would have the final say. Remember that Trump's latest two appointees, justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh, are deeply devoted to Scalia's views, including the dissent in which the late justice wrote that the President has "all" executive power.
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This is the playbook for a variety of potential challenges, including the possibility that the new attorney general would fire Robert Mueller. The President will claim that he has "all" power over the executive branch as a matter of constitutional law, superseding any governing regulations. Mueller will have to go to court to keep his job, arguing that the President's theory is wrong.
In normal times, Mueller would have a good case. After all, it was the conservative Chief Justice William Rehnquist who authored the opinion supporting Congress's right to limit the President's ability to fire an independent counsel, in Morrison vs. Olson. But with the new justices on the court who side with the lonely Scalia dissent in that case, it is anyone's guess how the case would be resolved. Recently, some members of the Senate insisted that any law that would protect Mueller would be unconstitutional because the Scalia dissent — yes a dissent — was the law, and the President had to have "all" power over members of the executive branch.
Congress should be prepared to push back against these claims. The unitary executive view was considered scandalous when it was used by President George W. Bush to justify torture. The Justice Department had to withdraw a memo that it wrote based on those claims because it ignored a stream of cases restraining Presidents. In 1952, in one of the most famous separation of powers cases in history, the Supreme Court rejected President Truman's claims of absolute power to seize steel mills to support the Korean War.
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Justice Robert Jackson, who had presided over the Nuremberg trials, claimed that the argument that the President had "all" power amounted to a "totalitarian" claim. He was not alone, in 1935, conservative justices refused Franklin D. Roosevelt's claim that he had absolute power. More recent cases saw the Supreme Court push back on the Bush administration's claim to the absolute right to torture and President Clinton's claim that he could not be sued. These cases uniformly shun the idea that the President may be the "Judge in his Own Cause."
Sadly, for those of us who revere the separation of powers, what was once "off the wall" may be back "on the wall" for some inside the Justice Department.
Nourse, a professor at Georgetown Law, served as chief counsel to the Vice President Joe Biden, as an appellate lawyer in the Justice Department and as special counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
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Some people in the technical field believe that a love of science is chosen in rejection to faith in God. That those who believe in Jesus Christ as the savior of their soul must chuck all logic out of the window when they claim a faith in God. There may be some who reject all of science fearing all of the complexities of asking questions and the humility that that entails.
I believe that God created the universe as described in the Holy Bible. I don't know how a scientist might describe it if God allowed him/her to watch a time-lapsed version of it from an omnipotent point of view.
I also believe that no technology created by mankind rivals that designed by God. The best breakthroughs in technology come from a close study of the inherent designs found in nature/creation. God made mankind in His own image, and I believe that includes His nature to create, and to be pleased by His created things working as designed. I have a strong God-given desire to create things, but I don't always have opportunities to excercise that. I tell friends and family about ideas I have regarding technology and inventions, as well as how certain products and even hardware are crafted/engineered. Not everyone is as excited by such discussion as I am.
Instead of just pointing out that this product or that software does exactly that thing I told my wife about a few years back, I decided to just blog it out, so that it at least gets published. Hey, maybe I can get some credit in the years to come. It sure beats clamming up and considering the cost of trying to sell ideas to businesses built on making money from a generation of people told that they all deserve an 'A' because they are special.
That's my idea. Let me know if someone else thought of it already and when I can get a honeycomb sensored Canon DSLR where portrait and landscape is a postprocessing afterthought as white balance currently is in shooting RAW.
I will let you (the reader) know when I get another idea worth writing about.
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Hargreaves PFF's Top-Rated CB in Preseason
Vernon Hargreaves has been the best cornerback in the NFL during the preseason, according to Pro Football Focus.
There were certainly high expectations for Vernon Hargreaves when the Buccaneers selected him in the first round of the 2016 NFL Draft. Many analysts believed Hargreaves was the best pure cover corner in the draft. By the Buccaneers selecting him, they got a player who they believed to be the best player available, and also a player at a position of need.
Vernon Hargreaves' Rookie Photo Shoot
Pictures from Hargreaves' photo shoot following the NFL Draft.
Throughout the spring, Hargreaves worked exclusively with the second-team defense. He remained with the twos until mid-way through training camp, when he began taking a few reps with the first-team in the slot.
As training camp came to a close, Hargreaves had graduated to getting work on the outside, too.
With three preseason games in the books, it's become clear why Hargreaves has continued to receive promotions. He recorded two interceptions in the Buccaneers' preseason victory over the Jaguars and has performed well in his other two competitions. So well, in fact, that Pro Football Focus graded Hargreaves as the best cornerback in the entire league during the preseason. PFF tweeted out the grade on Tuesday morning.
The Buccaneers will take the field for their final preseason game when they host the Redskins on Wednesday night. Whether or not Hargreaves finds himself in a starting role for the start of the regular season will be determined as the opener approaches, but it's safe to say that he'll play an important role on the Buccaneers' defense this season.
Top graded players this preseason (by position)
CB: Vernon Hargreaves III, TB
SAF: Jaylen Watkins, PHI
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Medical Marijuana Bill Advances in Frankfort - but Forbids Smoking It
Thu, 03/07/2019 - 06:36 RCN Newsdesk
A bill that would legalize medicinal marijuana in Kentucky passed the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday by a vote of 16-1. But, smoking the medicinal marijuana would not be permitted.
Thirty-three other states have already legalized medicinal cannabis.
Kentucky's bill is co-sponsored by Fort Wright Republican State Rep. Diane St. Onge, along with Rep. Jason Nemes (R-Louisville).
"This consensus legislation was crafted based on the input of numerous stakeholders, and will improve the quality of life of our fellow citizens suffering from chronic pain and life-altering illnesses, for which no traditional medicine has been effective," St. Onge said of House Bill 136.
The measure is the product of numerous compromises and discussions with a broad range of stakeholders, a news release said.
Notably, the bill no longer allows consumption of medicinal marijuana by smoking. It also prohibits the "home grow" element formerly in the legislation, which allowed up to six plants to be cultivated by patients themselves, and establishes a list of qualified medical conditions to provide guidelines for a recommendation.
Neither Nemes nor St. Onge support the legalization of marijuana for recreational purposes.
"A strong majority of Kentuckians support medical marijuana, in addition to a strong majority of House members," Nemes said. "Now is the time for us to provide our people with a remedy for ailments that numerous studies prove to be effective. It's time for us to let the doctor decide."
Under the terms of the legislation, the use of medical marijuana would be regulated by the Public Protection Cabinet.
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Q: Mac host doesn't like Docker container port forwarding I am experimenting with Docker for the first time, and am trying to get a Spring Boot web app to run inside a Docker container. I am building the app (which packages up into a self-contained jar) and then adding it to the Docker image (which is what I want).
You can find my SSCCE at this Bootup repo on GitHub, whose README has all the instructions to reproduce what I'm seeing. But basically:

*

*I build the web app into a jar

*Run docker build -t bootup . which succeeds

*Run docker run -it -p 9200:9200 -d --name bootup bootup and then container seems to start up just fine, as is evidence by the docker ps output below

*However, when I point a browser to http://localhost:9200, I get nothing

docker ps output:
CONTAINER ID        IMAGE               COMMAND                  CREATED
a8c4ee64a1bc        bootup              "/bin/sh -c 'java -ja"   2 days ago

STATUS              PORTS                    NAMES
Up 12 seconds       0.0.0.0:9200->9200/tcp   bootup

The web app is configured to run on port 9200, not the Java default of 8080. You can see this for yourself by running the app outside of docker (so, just locally on you host machine) by running ./gradlew clean build && java -jar build/libs/bootup.jar.
To my knowledge, there is no Firewall running on my host that would be blocking ports (I am on Mac 10.11.5 and verified that System Preferences >> Security & Privacy >> Firewall is turned off).
Can anyone spot where I'm going awry?

Updates:
I ran a curl, netstat and lsof on the host:
HOST:
curl http://localhost:9200
curl: (52) Empty reply from server

netstat -an | grep 9200
tcp6       0      0  ::1.9200               *.*                    LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  *.9200                 *.*                    LISTEN

lsof -n -i4TCP:9200 | grep LISTEN
com.docke 2578 myuser   19u  IPv4 <someHexNumber>      0t0  TCP *:wap-wsp (LISTEN)

And then docker exec'd into the container and ran another netstat:
CONTAINER:
netstat -an | grep 9200
bash: netstat: command not found

Update w/ photos:
Picture of my browser (Chrome) pointed to http://localhost:9200:

Picture of the source code at http://localhost:9200:

Picture of Chrome Developer Tools inspecting the page at http://localhost:9200:

Picture of the Network tab in Chrome Developer Tools:

What the heck is going on here?!?!? According to the source, the browser should be rendering my Well hello there, from Dockerland! message just fine. According to the actual browser page, it looks like there is a networking error. And according to Chrome Developer Tools, my app is returning all sorts of HTML/CSS/JS content that is not even remotely apart of my app (check out the source code, see for yourself)!!!

A: The Dockerfile doesn't expose 9200 to the daemon. Add
EXPOSE 9200
to the Dockerfile before ENTRYPOINT

A: Assuming you are using Docker Toolbox and not the beta ...
There is a 3 step process for exposing a port properly:

*

*use EXPOSE 8080 where 8080 is just a port number in the Dockerfile

*use -p 8080:8080 in your docker run command

*Make sure that you setup port forwarding in Oracle Virtual Box so that the boot2docker machine is able to receive requests from port 8080.

This applies to both Windows and OSX where Docker Toolbox is being used. Linux doesn't use Oracle VirtualBox to run docker so those hosts do not need to do the third point

A: I ran your repo as-is on Docker 1.12 on OSX.
If you look carefully at your container startup:
2016-08-29 20:52:31.028  INFO 5 --- [           main] o.eclipse.jetty.server.ServerConnector   : Started ServerConnector@47949d1a{HTTP/1.1}{0.0.0.0:8080}
2016-08-29 20:52:31.033  INFO 5 --- [           main] .s.b.c.e.j.JettyEmbeddedServletContainer : Jetty started on port(s) 8080 (http/1.1)

Although application.yml and Dockerfile both contain 9200, the application is starting on 8080

A: Going to add another answer here because I saw something related to the Github Repo that you posted:
So the repo is a spring boot repo with an application.yml file.
Your Dockerfile looks like this:
FROM openjdk:8

RUN mkdir /opt/bootup

ADD build/libs/bootup.jar /opt/bootup
WORKDIR /opt/bootup
EXPOSE 9200
ENTRYPOINT java -jar bootup.jar

Which is adding the built jar to the image. If my understanding is correct, the jar does not include application.yml because:

*

*It is not part of the build (gradle would package the src/main only). It is sitting on the project root folder

*It is not explicitly added to Docker

So therefore one can assume that your app is actually running on 8080 (the default) at the moment?
A couple of options that one could try:

*

*Try exposing 8080 instead of 9200 (or expose both) and see if that makes a difference?

*The entrypoint command can append the port --server.port=9200

*The application.yml file should be added to the image (you might need to add an argument to reference it properly) [ADD application.yml /opt/bootup, after first ADD command]

*Include the application.yml file in src/main/resources so that spring boot can pick it up automatically.

References
Spring Boot reference documentation on the order of loading for external configuration

A: Good News! (for MacOSx 10.15.7)
I found the same issue as you, and I was able to solve it by directly opening VirutalBox connection
Go here first:

changed to bridged then logged into the virtual machine within VirtualBox
And found the actual machine's adapter labeled:
eth0
after I noted the setting it was originally NAT so I changed to bridged and then

I was able to use its address vs. localhost.
After I used the public address I used:
curl -i [bridged_ip_address_here]:9200
it then worked flawlessly.
However I also noticed some firewalls and accessibility options that needed permission as well.

I pray this helps you.

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It's June! We made it through the slowdowns of May with the five retrograde planets, and now it's Gemini time! Light, airy and fun, right? Well, not exactly. We did have the Sun and Venus conjunct in Gemini to start the month, which can bring about some interesting and fun conversation. However, that Mutable Grand Cross that occurred at the end of May was not only still with us, it was getting more and more exact. At the four corners were the Sun and Venus in Gemini, Saturn in Sagittarius, Jupiter in Virgo, and Neptune in Pisces. The Sun and Venus moved out of the Cross by June 12, but on June 17, Mercury, by then in its own sign of Gemini, will bring the Cross back to life once again.
The fact that this Grand Cross was/is in mutable signs is critical, because it requires lots of flexibility from all of us to get through it. New ideas will be generated, and then just as we think we've figured it out, an even newer idea emerges that either puts in doubt the previous one or requires a shift in perspective. Jupiter wants us to think BIG, and Saturn wants us to have a level of caution or doubt. Neptune tells us to trust our intuition, and ideas that come from dreams, of either the daytime or nighttime variety, ideas that people around us may pooh-pooh and declare impossible. Meanwhile we're spinning in multiple directions at once.
This confusing aura in and around us may create anxiety, lots of it. We may feel like we're doing something wrong, and not be able to figure out what that is. So entertain this: odds are you are doing nothing wrong. It is important to remember that a Grand Cross, particularly the mutable kind, require change, healing, and adaptation. Change means it won't feel "normal" until we have experienced the healing and have adapted to whatever is changing.
The New Moon in Gemini on June 4, at 7:59 PM PDT brought the Moon into exact conjunction with both the Sun, as is always the case, and Venus. This New Moon, with those conjunctions, brought the Grand Cross into a higher level of potency. New Moon, new beginnings, new vision, new thinking (Gemini). That is the message. We need to create a new reality, for ourselves and for the world. The old ways are no longer working. They don't support who we are now, or who we need to be, in order to evolve and keep this species going. And yes, Gemini requires us to communicate our vision for this new reality, and right now communications are, at best, confusing.
If this all sounds like more of a task than you can possibly accomplish, be reminded that Gemini is ruled by Mercury, and in addition to his roles as messenger, inventor, and guide to travelers, Mercury is also the magician! So yes, you/we can do this! The strong Saturn/Neptune square, with the help of Jupiter, tells me that having faith in your gut, in your intuition, no matter how seemingly irrational, may be the key to this new vision. I know this may sound like Neptunian delusion. However, the strong Saturn in Jupiter's sign, plus Jupiter and Mercury in earth signs, can help us steer clear of delusion, and still trust an idea out of the ordinary, and beyond the current paradigm.
There are more planets in the chart than those in mutable signs, planets that we have not spoken much about. In fact, when the month started, we had a Grand Earth Trine that included mutable Jupiter in Virgo, but also Pluto in cardinal Capricorn, and Mercury in fixed Taurus. Mercury moves quickly, and by June 6, it had moved ahead of the trines and was opposed to retrograde Mars in fixed Scorpio. And on that same day, we found Uranus in cardinal Aries exactly conjunct the new planet Eris. The power of these planets and their positions cannot be ignored. Beneath the chaotic mumblings, mixed messages, and multiple changes of direction, there is, and has been, a deeper operation of steadying and focus going on within us. Part of us has been intent on forging ahead with changes already in process. Most of the time we can be aware of this, but recently, all the mental craziness has been a distraction.
On June 12, Mercury shifts into Gemini at 4:23 PM PDT. Having the sign ruler in its own sign increases the power of the sign while it is there, particularly given that Mercury moved out of its retrograde shadow on June 7, and is now going "full speed ahead." It's time for open-mindedness, and being clear with your communications. Have a contract waiting to be signed? Now may be the right time.
Also on June 12, retrograde Mars in Scorpio is exactly trine Chiron in Pisces. This is a good time to take some healing action for yourself. An event from the past bothering you? Take a good look at whether it is really a barrier to your vision and goals. If so, ask for guidance as to the path ahead. Is it time to face it head on? Or are you ready to just release and let go?
At 1:43 PM PDT, Neptune stations retrograde on June 13 at 12 degrees 02 minutes Pisces. It will remain retrograde until November 2016. For many people, Neptune retrograde is a time of heightened sensitivity and stronger intuition. Even if you are one of those, do not expect to be in a state of spiritual ecstasy for the next five months. Saturn's square with Neptune assures us that some of our conditioned beliefs, cultural memes, or assumptions we've lived by, will be challenged. Many of us have been experiencing this since late last year when the square aspect began. Know that the struggle to find truth and meaning is the reality of life, and right now, we are all in that struggle together, big time!
On June 18, the second of three exact squares between Saturn and Neptune occurs, with both planets retrograde. If you are questioning ideas you've previously assumed to be true, keep an open mind. Saturn is in Sagittarius, the sign of the "big picture" view. Neptune is in its own sign of Pisces, which is about the source of consciousness, but also the eroding tide. In times like these, old beliefs we hold, with no real evidence of their validity, begin to clash with actual reality, experience and learning. When we indeed get the bigger picture, we see how hopelessly impossible some of our "small pictures" are or have been. It may take a difficult period of confusion, disappointment, and grief. In the end, however, if we allow the balance of Saturn and Neptune to be reached, what cannot stand the test of time will dissolve. It is the process of human evolution.
On June 17, Venus moves out of Gemini and into Cancer at 12:39 PM PDT, re-invigorating our need for nurture, love, and the feeling of security. Venus will remain there until July 12. Don't be reluctant to self-nurture, if connecting with loved ones doesn't happen to be in the cards! Create a favorite meal for yourself, have a spa day, or phone up friends!
We have the second consecutive Full Moon in Sagittarius this month (each year this happens in one sign or another, since there are 13 lunation cycles and 12 months) at 29 degrees 32 minutes Sagittarius, the final, or anaretic degree of the sign, on June 20 at 4:02 AM PDT. Is this final degree really "fated" as spoken about by traditional astrologers? Or could it just mean poised to move in a new direction? If we think very much about all the other aspects of the chart, and the aspects we have been dealing with for some months now, it could simply be one more clue that it is time for us to let some old ideas, beliefs, structures, relationships, or ways of operating, flow out to sea with the tide. Emotional moment? Yes, quite possibly, given that Venus in Cancer is conjunct the Sun and opposed this New Moon, despite the Moon being in Sagittarius, an often light-hearted sign.
The Full Moon is made more intense, and more emotional, when we realize that just hours after it reaches its peak, the Sun slips into Cancer, which means we've reached the Summer Solstice at 3:35 PM PDT.
There is even more activity on June 20. It is important to note that Chiron forms a T-square with the Full Moon and Sun. It also trines Mars. Jupiter is exactly conjunct the North Node of the Moon. Mercury and Saturn are in opposition. These aspects all point to this being a period of conflicting desires. We want to take the risk to manifest our dreams, strike out into new territory. We want to take actions that will be of benefit to ourselves, our loved ones, and the world. Yet we also want to be safe, secure, loved and loving. Memories of being wounded, dismissed or disrespected for speaking our truth as a child may arise. Can we take the risk of once again shocking or offending those we love, because we can no longer linger in the world of the status quo? Can we live with self-doubt, and worry over our need to know, and do, the right thing? How do we be true to ourselves, while still being loving to those who may not have reached the same conclusions about the direction we are headed?
There is no simple answer. But it is generally helpful to be as kind to yourself as you can by providing self-care, and not negatively judging yourself. You can also count on feeling better about yourself by performing small acts of kindness toward others, or indulging your creative impulses Try not to escape this mental, emotional, and spiritual quandary via popular routes of alcohol, drugs, video games, overeating, fantasy, etc. Allow the process to unfold. This is life—evolving—consciously.
Jupiter forms an exact trine with Pluto on June 26. The Pisces Moon is in the mix for a short period of time by opposition with Jupiter and sextile with Pluto. This has the potential to power us through any depression or despair we may have lingering from a crisis of conscience earlier in the month.
We have two significant events occurring on June 29, within minutes of each other. Mercury enters the sign of Cancer at 4:25 PM PDT and then Mars stations direct at 4:39 PM PDT at 23 degrees 03 minutes Scorpio. With three planets in Cancer, Mars still in Scorpio but not held back by retrograde motion, our emotional body is highly activated. We will be attempting to come to terms with those parts of us that are being released, in order for even greater wholeness to be achieved. May you leave behind doubts and fears, knowing that who you are growing into is who you are meant to be.


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Plus rien est une chanson du groupe québécois Les Cowboys fringants, écrite par J-F Pauzé, parue sur l'album La Grand-Messe, et qui porte sur la fin du règne humain sur Terre.

Le clip de la chanson, réalisé en Stop Motion (technique d'animation en  « pâte à modeler »), a obtenu le prix Félix en 2006.

La chanson parle de l'autodestruction de l'espèce humaine et de l'impact du réchauffement climatique. Elle conte l'histoire du dernier humain sur terre et se termine sur sa propre mort. Jean-François Pauzé a eu l'idée de cette chanson à la suite d'une conférence d'Hubert Reeves où ce dernier expliquait que la planète avait déjà connu cinq extinctions massives et que la prochaine pourrait être celle de l'Homme.

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Chanson de 2004

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Pressure mounting on EU to end ivory trade
Paris, France | August 22, 2019, Thursday @ 14:15 in World » GENERAL | By: AFP | Views: 1674
This photo taken on December 13, 2018 shows Cambodian Customs and Excise Officials looking at ivory seized from a shipping container at the Phnom Penh port. Cambodia seized more than 3.2 tonnes of elephant tusks hidden in a storage container sent from Mozambique, a customs official said on December 16, marking the country's largest ivory bust. (BAN CHORK / AFP)
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(AFP) - Amid growing calls for an outright ban, the European Union has come under increasing pressure to help protect African elephants by ending the trade of ivory within its borders.
Poaching has decimated the world elephant population, which slumped in Africa from several million at the turn of the 19th century to around 400,000 in 2015.
According to conservation group WWF, as much as 60 percent of all elephant deaths can be blamed on poaching.
The David Shepherd Wildlife Foundation, which campaigns against the ivory trade, says that between 2007 and 2014, 144,000 elephants were killed across Africa -- the equivalent of one death every 15 minutes.
The international trade of ivory was officially banned in 1989.
The United States outlawed domestic trade in 2016, with China following suit a year later.
But several other markets, including the EU and Japan, have no such internal bans.
Critics maintain that legal domestic ivory markets fuel laundering of illegal ivory and undermine ivory bans elsewhere.
- More scrutiny, but no ban -
Ivory and the plight of African elephants is a hot-button issue this week at a meeting in Geneva of parties to the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES), which regulates trade in more than 35,000 species of plants and animals.
On Wednesday, countries agreed to demand more scrutiny of the ivory markets that remain open, but stopped short of heeding a call by mainly African countries to order the immediate closure of all domestic ivory markets.
The conference did however order the EU as well as Japan and other countries that still permit the trade to report back within a year on what measures they are taking to ensure that their ivory markets are not contributing to elephant poaching and illegal trafficking.
Conservationists welcomed the increased scrutiny, but warned it was not enough.
"We are moving in the right direction, but we don't have time to waste," Sarah Morrison, with campaign group Avaaz, told AFP.
"We urgently need to close all domestic markets and make sure we put the lives of elephants first."
Philip Muruthi of the African Wildlife Foundation (AWF) agreed, stressing that "there isn't enough ivory in the world to satisfy current demand."
"As long as a market exists for ivory, you can be sure that elephants are being killed to sustain it."
- 'Exploiting loopholes' -
The European Union currently has, at least in theory, stringent rules on ivory sales within its borders.
It's illegal to export elephant tusks out of the EU, and only objects dated before 1947 can be bought without paperwork -- any ivory made after that date requires a certificate to purchase.
But last year, a joint study between the University of Oxford and Avaaz showed that as much as a fifth of ivory objects came from elephants killed after the global trade ban in 1989.
Campaigners say it is still too easy to trade illegal ivory within and out of the EU.
A coalition of 17 NGOs calling for a Europe-wide ban said that illegal ivory was being "laundered by exploiting loopholes in EU law".
Ivory sold as "antique" currently requires no proof of authenticity or origin within Europe, it said.
France, Belgium, Britain and the Netherlands have all adopted or are set to adopt stricter measures against the illegal trade.
France's environment ambassador Yann Wehrling said that ending main domestic ivory markets would greatly benefit the African elephant.
"The African elephant will be protected because you will no longer be able to buy ivory and poaching will cease," he said.
Conservationists insist it is still easy to find ivory sculptures for sale online with no proof of their provenance.
The WWF said the world needed "a better understanding of what constitutes an effective market closure" in order to seal off loopholes.
During Wednesday's debate, the EU hinted new regulations were soon to be introduced across the bloc.
Matthew Collis, policy chief at the International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW), welcomed that, insisting though that any changes to the EU rules should "shut down ivory markets in the EU with all but extremely limited exemptions, in line with actions taken by other nations like China, the US and the UK."
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