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Assange "struggles to say his own name" as he appears in court
Assange told the judge he is up against a "superpower" with "unlimited resources" and appeared to be fighting back tears as he added: "I can't think properly."
by Jack Peat
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange appeared to struggle to say his own name as he faced court to fight extradition to the US.
Assange, 48, is accused of leaking the country's government secrets in one of the largest ever compromises of confidential information.
Clean shaven and with his white hair combed back, he appeared in the dock at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Monday wearing a dark blue suit over a pale blue sweater and white shirt.
He mumbled, paused and stuttered as he gave his name and date of birth at the start of a case management hearing.
Protesters gather outside
Former Mayor of London Ken Livingstone and journalist and documentary maker John Pilger were among Assange's supporters in a packed public gallery, while dozens of protesters gathered outside court.
Assange's barrister Mark Summers QC said there is a "direct link" between the "reinvigoration" of the investigation, which was concluded during Barack Obama's presidency, and the Donald Trump administration.
"Our case will be that this is a political attempt to signal to journalists the consequences of publishing information. It is legally unprecedented," he said.
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American state
Mr Summers also claimed the US was involved in invading his client's legal privilege.
"The American state has been actively engaged in intruding into privileged discussions between Mr Assange and his lawyers in the embassy, also unlawful copying of their telephones and computers (and) hooded men breaking into offices," he said.
District Judge Venessa Baraitser refused to grant defence lawyers more time to gather evidence and told Assange his next case management hearing will take place on December 19 before a full extradition hearing in February.
When his case was adjourned, Assange complained that he had not understood proceedings, and said: "This is not equitable."
He said: "I can't research anything, I can't access any of my writing. It's very difficult where I am."
Up against a "superpower" with "unlimited resources"
He told the judge he is up against a "superpower" with "unlimited resources" and appeared to be fighting back tears as he added: "I can't think properly."
Assange was jailed for 50 weeks in May for breaching his bail conditions after going into hiding in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London for nearly seven years to avoid extradition to Sweden over sex offence allegations.
He was due to be released from high-security Belmarsh prison last month, but a judge remanded him in custody because there were "substantial grounds" for believing he would abscond.
Assange faces 18 charges in the US, including allegations he conspired to break into a Pentagon computer and worked with former US army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning to leak hundreds of thousands of classified documents.
Former home secretary Sajid Javid signed an order in June allowing Assange to be extradited to the US over the computer-hacking allegations.
Grave concerns
In May, WikiLeaks said it had "grave concerns" about Assange's health after he was moved to a medical ward in Belmarsh prison. When he did not appear for a scheduled hearing, chief magistrate Emma Arbuthnot referred to the Australian as "not very well".
WikiLeaks said at the time: "During the seven weeks in Belmarsh his health has continued to deteriorate and he has dramatically lost weight.
"The decision of the prison authorities to move him into the health ward speaks for itself."
In a statement before the hearing, Massimo Moratti, Amnesty International's deputy director for Europe, said: "The British authorities must acknowledge the real risks of serious human rights violations Julian Assange would face if sent to the USA and reject the extradition request.
"The UK must comply with the commitment it's already made that he would not be sent anywhere he could face torture or other ill-treatment.
"The UK must abide by its obligations under international human rights law that forbids the transfer of individuals to another country where they would face serious human rights violations.
"Were Julian Assange to be extradited or subjected to any other transfer to the USA, Britain would be in breach of these obligations."
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Jack Peat
Jack is a business and economics journalist and the founder of The London Economic (TLE).He has contributed articles to The Sunday Telegraph, BBC News and writes for The Big Issue on a weekly basis.Jack read History at the University of Wales, Bangor and has a Masters in Journalism from the University of Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
Carla Shaw says:
In court he is showing evidence of Mental torture, which is what John Pilger clearly stated, he knew, they are destroying him https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/assange-struggles-to-say-his-own-name-as-he-appears-in-court/21/10/?fbclid=IwAR3xF-XmKqAfMAx7ILBDrcEhc84R2zINWR63xWtpWLR9L9QZzlQ5XftTugw
Brad Carpenter says:
Why are you linking to this exact same page?
dennis j okeefe says:
good linking move – it will keep many democrats occupied for years….
Eric Canales says:
That's right, this is a left vs right debate. Left: Torture is wrong. Right: Win at any and all costs, even at the destruction of our government.
Bearded Jagger says:
The left has turned against him in the US for exposing Hillary's and the DNC's corruption in the 2016 election. He was their hero, as long as he was only exposing crimes the right had committed.
Percy Van Hoorebeke says:
Belgium here… As an impartial observer I must remark: that sounds like a really stupid and extremely irrelevant thing to say, Dennis.
Geoffrey Sea says:
Or Assange is just acting to avoid extradition, which is 99.999% likely to be the case.
Andrew Mcguiness says:
Of course Assange is trying to avoid extradition – the court where he would be tried in Virginia has never returned a verdict of not guilty. Why would he choose to spend 175 years in a US supermax, simply for publishing documents in the public interest?
Under human rights laws he is entitled to HABEAS CORPUS. He has been clearly been subjected to severe mental torture in prison, this is already a serious violation by the British Government.
Lesley Knox says:
Saving him from torture in the USA???? He's already being tortured!
Why is he in solitary confinement .. He's not violent or a threat to anyone.
I'm just realising how barbaric we westerners are 🤔🤤
Norman Scarth says:
The persecution & torment from the time he entere the Equadorian Embassy is barbaric beyond belief.
Those responsible are malevelant sadists.
Which is why… I'm sad to say we 'rule' the world. We're the biggest a-holes.
NR says:
Perhaps, but he was exhibiting bizarre behaviors ar the embassy before his incarceration. Trump liked him at one point so who knows what would happen if he was extradited.
Oh, for heaven's sake, can't you tell when someone is being smeared?
Philippa Catling says:
This is a disgrace.
Eroica St John Mildmay says:
Julian Assange is a hero to countless people here in the UK, as we see America becoming more and more turgidly militaristic in the alien mode of robocop, more and more invasive and controlling in people's personal lives, and frankly many of us are sick of it. They also have a complete moron as a president, and accept that, which speaks volumes and America is generally a broken country despite all its bluster and front. Many stratas of their society is drug-soaked and ruined, despite their much-trumpeted 'war on drugs' and it is a racist country too, so nothing has changed from the 50's and now it's becoming a fascist country by degrees as well. I hope that Julian Assange tonight, wherever he is, knows that many citizens of the UK do not like what the future is becoming, even here in the UK too, and and respect his stance. That may be of little comfort as the CIA and FBI types wrap their chilling systemic tentacles around him, but they can't take away the deep respect that many, many people hold for him. And, they never will.
Jane q public says:
thank you for speaking up. It means something to know that you see past the bluster and front. #therevolutionwillnotbetelevised — Indeed, we are fighting fascism here in the US.
I hope that Julian knows we are citizens from around the world, grateful and speaking up for him too.
Ryan Tanabata says:
You're not fighting fascism in the U.S. You're fighting misinformation and propaganda from the left while they attempt to shackle you with socialism.
Gina Sparkre says:
Agreed Ryan. It's the Socialist mafia.
Julian Assange certainly IS a Hero.
My service on the Arctic Convoys of World War 2 means I myself am rated as a 'Hero', though I reject the accolade with distaste, as I do the tin-pot medals awarded to me.
To cut a very long story short,
Until the age of 70 I was proud to be British, but then came a succession of shocks as I learned the truth, all my pride, all my lifelong beliefs shattered. In memory of all those men who had died around me (British & German), I became a whistle-blower. This brought many years of persecution by the corrupt British State, comparable to that inflicted on Assange.
Stitched up for a NON-EXISTENT 'crime', there was a grotesque 'trial' (PRESIDED OVER BY A JUDGE WHO HAS SINCE DIED IN A MENTAL HOSPITAL!) He imposed on me, then aged 75, a sentence to ensure I died in prison. Well, I didn't die, but served more than 6 years in many different prisons & so-called 'Mental Hospitals' (a favourite way to silence whistle-blowers).
However, a miracle happened, & I came under a psychiatrist who was not a puppet of The State (as all too many are), & he released me. Imprisoned again at the age of 85 (for 'Contempt'), I finally accepted that Britain is not a safe place for anyone who tells the truth, & fled the land of my birth for safety in Ireland.
I have compared my treatment to that of Assange, but at least I am now free, & happy. The torment inflicted on Assange is of a different magnitude, & his persecutors are determined it will never end. This is not a question of 'punishment', when that already inflicted on him far outweighs whatever 'crime' he may have committed. It is to satisfy the malice of those whose sadism is insatiable.
Now aged 94 I would like to visit my homeland once more, but dare not, knowing what awaits me if I do!
Karlheinz Krass says:
Thank you for opening up our eyes. Britain once was a leader of fair play, but these times seem to be gone.
When exactly was that Karlheinz
DENIS O'REGAN says:
You are a hero
Mário Caeiro says:
Thank you for the absolutely sharp sum-up.
Paul Browne says:
That Sajid Javid has determined that Assange can be extradited to the USA, where he could theoretically face the Death Penalty, tells one everything you need to know about this corrupt Tory Government.
GARRY WHITE says:
The United Kingdom, Once a paragon of justice and all things right is sinking deeper into a quagmire of servitude to the USA. They purport to be seeking to 'take back control' from the European Union and yet have already sold us down the the river to the biggest mendacious Government on the planet.
"The United Kingdom, Once a paragon of justice and all things right" In what universe?
stephen owen says:
Obviously powerful Western Governments,including the UK are complicit in suppressing the truth and seek to shoot the messenger. Harsh times ahead as extremist governments gain footholds.
Renn Strong says:
#ProtectorsNOTProtesters #SMH #OperationMockingbird #WeAreMaunaKea #StandWithStandingRocks
RUPERT PROCTER says:
Julian Assange deserves a medal, not a prison cell. The British people need to stick up for him and freedom of speech and stop his extradition. Long may Julian Assange and Wikileaks continue to expose the crimes of the deep state. He should be allowed to stay here and given a knighthood for services to humanity and his determination to make the world a better place. Chin up Julian, you are much loved and respected. Good luck and best wishes. May God bless you and protect you from all evil.
I tend to agree with you even though I don't fully understand what he has done.
To treat any person is this way is barbaric. I never knew that we would be capable of such inhumane treatment in this day and age.
Julian Assange has been indicted for espionage by the US, for releasing a few huge tranches of secret US documents relating to the war in Afghanistan, the war in Iraq, and cables from US embassies all over the world.
Yes I agree with you completely
George M. Nasif says:
Every single media outlet has published these documents. Every time we click a mouse, and hit SEND, that information is Public!! If Julian goes down, every single media corporation Must be charged and go down with him. We all know there is no truth to any of these fabricated charges. Julian has never once broken any law. Julian only published what was ALREADY Public information. The whole thing is the "goddamn Democrats socialists" doing a deep state "hatchet job". Trump should slap sanctions on the UK and bankrupt them until Julian is released! Want to see the Brit Pound bankrupt? We can make it happen. You want more riots in the streets? We Will make that happen. You want Revolution in the streets ?? We Will make that happen. RELEASE ASSANGE NOW!!!!
Teresa Brewer says:
Loftwork says:
Assange is, obviously, a political prisoner, held in the UK for trumped-up offences alleged in and by the US. It obviously does not require solitary confinement in a maximum security facility, without reasonable access to legal resources , because of "flight risk". That is ludicrous. Are the authorities concerned that he might escape by turning himself into an email? What this unjust and vindictive behaviour proves is simply that the UK is a catspaw for US human rights abuses, now in Belmarsh just as before in Abu Ghraib.
Lorraine Shantz says:
Why keep torturing a man who was only doing his job and finding out who the evil people were in the US and other places..there are murderers who only get a slap on the wrist or very little jail time, pedophiles , who rape over & over , they get nothing. So this man Julian Assange has already suffered more than anyone that has committed no crime, please have a heart if you are human, and set him free…the corruptions of this world makes good men victims…Please set him free, so he can get help to get his health back !
But what can we do? Protesting isn't going to accomplish anything!
Sunil vijaya says:
Anglo Saxons have the liberty in defining Democracy and Freedom in their own way, where and when it suits them. From African slavery, men in chains around their necks right up to Iraq, it has been a hog wash on human rights using platforms in UN controlled by Anglos. Just as much there was a Darwin, among them there exist angels who dare to challenge their version of democracy and freedom and human rights. Britain and USA have been the very Pariahs of abuse of human rights and as Chomsky observes, every US post war president in USA has to be labelled as a War Criminal. Assange, a true Aussie who challenges the 'system', is being a victim of brain re-wiring, with use of modern medicine to mess him up, in a prison hospital. No power is above Anglo Saxon and its time the world begin to Brexit and USexit from world bodies.
I blame the Norman's says:
First of all Sunvil. The Normans took over the UK in 1066. So if you want to be pissed off at certain culture take look at the Normans. Secondly, Anglos? UN? Like China, Russia and France are Anglos? And the US is a melting pot. Are you one of those Racist people?
Sissi says:
For Gods sake! Everyone knows he should be released and left alone – at least…
and be given help for support. I don't know of anybody who thinks what he did was bad.
That is the consensus of the people.
What exactly has he done to deserve not only the death penalty, but a slow death by mental torture?
Who are the real evil ones? God help him because obviously we can't 🙁☹😢😢🙏🙏
LJ A. says:
The soon he goes the better!
If you are going to play with the big boys, then expect to play by their rules – and when you try it on with them and get caught, you shouldn't be at all surprised when the come after you; esp if you've made them look bad!!!!
The world is a nasty place and society equally so, below the surface. Assange put a large number of people at severe risk however 'honourable' his stated intentions might've been. By releasing such a broad swath info that he really had no understanding of, he made the world a much less safer place, he's no hero he's just a self serving fool.
Really inaccurate ignorant comment. Julian Assange is a publisher a journalist he works with many other journalists. Holding Governments to account. His case is historical and crucial to Press Freedom a d Freedom of information and speech you idiot. Joined life was at risk, proven in court cases multiple times, no evidence could be provided to the contrary. What he did do was save millions from further unlawful invasions by corrupt government a d informed us the public of how they get away with it.
#DontShootTheMessenger
Bruce Mitchell says:
Totally wrong to say he put people at risk, when every relevant US agency has clearly stated no one was ever put at risk by the publication of those documents and videos.
And how exactly has he "made the world a much less safer place" when what he did only exposed the illegal actions and misdeeds of government and military officials, which is something the public has a right to know. That those who committed those illegal actions and misdeeds have never been held to account is the real issue here.
So… Might makes right?
No mate… he was serving everyone but himself, even you… you're just too 'damn MAGA to realise.
The claim that Assange put a large number of people at severe risk is a stretch. It has been nearly a decade since the releases and no-one has come to harm so far.
Retired Ambassador to the UK Craig Murray's observations at the hearing.
Very disturbing details he noted. Unlawful violations to go with it.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/10/assange-in-court/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Christine Chiomento says:
Is this some kind of joke, or what?! the man has been in a British prison for months now, yet they are afraid he will be subjected to harsher treatment here in the U.S. than he's been subjected to there?! And, what 'death penalty' would he be facing, may I ask?! Did he kill someone?! If not, then would he be tried for Treason against the United States of America, as a citizen?! This whole thing is just ridiculous. He needs to come here to testify in the Seth Rich murder case, not because he helped to murder Rich, but because he can give information as to whom it might be that had Seth killed.
Patsy Millar says:
I've read Craig Murray's account of the court proceedings and it's both barbaric and frightening. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be reported by most of the MSM. How much else slips under the radar?
Exactly so. Unironically, it shows us how much we actually need organisations like WikiLeaks.
Lourdinha Garcia says:
FREE ASSANGE… YOU SCUMS!!!
FREE ASSANGE… YOU BASTARDS!!!
Whole thing has nothing to do with Assange.
The people pulling the strings and pushing the buttons probably don't remember his name.
This is all for the rest of us – "Watch you lot, toe the line, or you're fcuked."
True. There's only one message here… Might makes right.
They forget however… Sic… Semper… Tyrannis.
Lorrain Riley says:
Julian Assange is AUSTRALIAN – and our Government have done NOTHING to assist him. Australia is also in danger of becoming a total fascists state – simply a puppet of the UK (Her Majesty Queen Elziabeth is also our Queen) AND the US – finally, has anyone seen the post in which their appears a photo of Boris Johnston, Donald Trump and (Aussie) Scott Morrison? Simply SCARY!
The Australian Government have done NOTHING to assist him. Australia is also in danger of becoming a total fascists state – simply a puppet of the UK (Her Majesty Queen Elziabeth is also our Queen) AND the US – finally, has anyone seen the post in which their appears a photo of Boris Johnston, Donald Trump and (Aussie) Scott Morrison? Simply SCARY!
James Hanrahan says:
"They Are Against Torture Unless It Benefits Their, Point Of View!"
Scott Kuli says:
Why is everyone involved in the scam of pretending this is a "legal process" not being shot like the scum they are?
Linda Totty says:
Julian Assange is an honest Journalist…I believe he has much evidence that Hillary Rodham Clinton is a criminal…If he were sent back to the US…he would NOT be tortured that is ludicrous…We don't torture people here…He would be safe… He certainly doesn't seem safe where he is… Sean Hannity , talk show TV Host, here in America interviewed Assange a few years back b4 he was arrested…That is when I knew that he was hiding out because he feared for his life because he had much evidence on HRC…. I don't really understand what else 'they say' he has done wrong to be treated like he's being treated…. It's WRONG !
Wesley Dale Franklin says:
He should be released. He exposed much corruption. That is why they torture him in hopes he will die soon.
Jake Maverick says:
Seems to me he's not just being physically tortured, he is under Directed Energy Weapon torture as well. Clear symptoms…I'm experiencing that to….very hard to think, have to think for a minute just to remember things like your own name and date of birth! Blurred vision, constant headaches, very hard to sleep= constantly tired all the time. It's gotten worse since these little blue pyramids went up on the lamp posts and smart meter went in….they've building the infrastructure now so that they can do it to anybody at will at any time 🙁
But this guy is locked up, he's probably under a higher level of it, got no shielding at all and can't even go for a walk to get away from it for a bit. Disgusts me what this country has become…and they did it to me for simply talking about that!


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Katie Tierney Higgins RN vs Anonymous : CCHR
Discussion in 'CoS Front Groups' started by Anonymous, Oct 18, 2012.
I want to put my retarded speculations someplace.
The conversation below on Beth Maloney's Facebook wall about a whistleblower is what made me think of Fair Game, because it reminds me of the "deep sleep" story in Australia in the 1980s, where an employee stole medical records from a psychiatric hospital and partnered up with Jan Eastgate and her bff Carole Fife Yeomans to get the place closed. Then Hollywood made a movie about the whole thing starring Linda Blair. And I think at least one psychiatrist committed suicide. So pretty much a win.
Like I said, speculation on my part. Maybe the Aussie psychs deserved what they got. But "deep sleep" is still used for certain things, even though the Scientologists made it sound like it had zero justification and is frequently deadly.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Beth-Alison-Maloney/233696275037
BRB, getting more stuff...
Anonymous, Oct 18, 2012
I typed out the capture of the alleged BCH whistleblower's note. Clunky writing is clunky and unreal:
Only licensed mental health professionals who have attempted to engage psychiatrists and upper level management of renowned academic medical centers on matters of clinical judgment have witnessed, or experienced the 'absolute authority' exercised by psychiatry. That they have failed to establish themselves as practitioners of medicine, is of no concern to them. Behaving as 'divine authority' they destroy (professional reputations) those who do not submit to their 'control.'
Needless to say, it takes a bit of study and research to uncover the basis for such outrageous behavior. The history of the evolution of this appauling situation is the story of corruption across the spectrum of agencies via their alliance with pharmaceutical companies is nothing short of obscene. The power of this wealthy allegiance is equally intimidating
I would like to suggest trying to focus on the single most compelling reason to challenge this 'evil' with everything we've got. Children-- our children have become the 'target market' for this unscrupulous band of pseudo doctors. I have witnessed Harvard Medical School's Joseph Biederman's claim to fame in action; adolescents suffering toxic side effects from an SSRI being railroaded on to his 'Bipolar Child' train. How could a known side effect from a drug like Prozac ever be classified as an 'agent that unmasked serious mental illness'? We now know that it unmasked an opportunity to classify a teenager, or a child, as a lifelong consumer of atypical antipsychotics, mood stabilizers, and sedatives. How can we not become enraged?
I am not lamenting having been blacklisted out of the field of psychiatric nursing in Boston. I finally had the time to study, research and to begin networking with genuinely 'sane' professionals who consider this matter to be one of the greatest crimes in our country's history. I will dedicate the rest of my life to atoning for the 25 years I worked in the field of child/adolescent psychiatry.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...hild-bipolar-disorder-imperiled-conflict-inte
On July 2, 2011, the Harvard Crimson reported that nationally known child psychiatrists Joseph Biederman, M.D., Timothy Wilens, M.D., and Thomas Spencer, M.D. were found to have violated conflict of interest policies of Harvard Medical School and the Massachusetts General Hospital http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/7/2/school-medical-harvard-investigation.
Dr. Biederman has been a forceful leader in encouraging the diagnosis of bipolar disorder in children. He has published numerous studies in scientific publications and has been funded by NIMH and pharmaceutical companies. He and his research group at Harvard are strongly associated with the forty fold increase in office visits by children and adolescents for the treatment of bipolar disorder between 1994-1995 (20,000) and 2002-2003 (800,000)
The DSM-5 committee of the American Psychiatric Association has been critical of the diagnosis of bipolar disorder in children and plans to substitute a new diagnostic term for the children that have been characterized as bipolar by the Harvard group http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/168/2/129.
Oops I forgot the top bit of the whistleblower post, which I copied from the CCHR web site:
View attachment ec3d706e81f729983432a368d295bf17?s=32&d=http%3 Katie Higgins RN says:
I worked on the child/adolescent psychiatric unit, Bader 5, Childrens Hospital Boston from 10/05 until I was forced into resignation 6/10. Meeting the fate of a whistleblower for contacting DMH regarding violations of restraint guidelines, I actually was not aware of the deeper issues regarding psychotropic drugs until I read "Anatomy of an Epidemic" by Robert Whitaker, about 10 months after leaving Bader 5, Childrens Hospital Boston. Refecting on how the use of restraints for forced feeding of medically stable patients with anorexia nervosa was always accompanied by administration of psychotropic drugs against the patient's will, I realized that the evil I had tried to confront as a staff nurse actually ran deeper than I could have ever imagined.
So Katie Higgins RN claims to have worked on a unit at BCH from October 2005 to June 2010. I wonder if that is true or if she's an e-personality like Luanne.
Here is a Katie Higgins RN commenting on a psychiatrist's blog who pretty much bashes psychiatry like Dr. Szasz:
This is what I heard about the Harvard thing, admittedly unverified: the three academics got speaking fees from various drug company sponsors. Those fees were paid to the dept of psychiatry which likely took its cut for administrative costs then paid the funds out to the doctors. The doctors were required to notify some administrative person at Harvard and they didn't do that for like seven years. They did pay taxes on the money so it wasn't like they were hiding the income.
I am not going to throw stones because I need a minder to help with paperwork duties, especially ones I'm supposed to do annually cuz I forget.
I haven't seen anything in the Harvard story that would lead me to believe that these three people lied about their research results. There are so many people involved in large randomized controlled trials of medications that cheating really would be difficult.
There is gossip that Beiderman is kind of a dick. I've met Tim Wilens and he seems like a pretty cool dude.
Personally I would rather see Senator Grassley going after bigger healthcare frauds like Narconon. Oh wait, Iowa, land of Palmer College of Chiropractic, so that is not going to happen.
I don't want corruption and bribes but I do want money, lots of it, spent on research and education. Sadly the governments of the world are in the red. So I say we take pharma money with a smile, provided that we take a lot of it from a lot of companies at the same time. That way if one company gets pushy, a researcher will just tell them to fuck off because he will have other sources of funding.
The anti-pharma campaign was supposed to make research more trustworthy. But I just see a lot more moonbats as a result. Herbalife money seems worse than BigPharma money. At least BigPharma had been tamed over decades by the requirement to produce studies that other teams can replicate.
All I know is if I personally didnt seek help for my anger management, anxiety and mild depression, I would be in jail and would have lost my family. I have a low seratonin lvl and without my SSRI my life would have been thrown out the window.
Also, prior to finding out that that was why i had the issues I had my whole life I was against all these pharma drugs. They are used and abused and I always felt the majority of people could handle these problems on their own. I didnt find out I had low seratonin levels till my late 20s (having done so cause I was acting off the wall and was very difficult to deal with) and I am much happier and healthier and now have the relationship with my friends and family I have always wanted.
moarxenu Member
I am twelve and what is this?
moarxenu, Oct 21, 2012
"moarxenu said: ↑
The protest in front of Boston Children's Hospital is meant to frighten the doctors who have openly criticized DAN doctors.
The PANDAS mommy tribe is one of several closely related anti-vaccine groups running black PR campaigns against pediatricians and child psychiatrists treating children with various developmental problems. As with the CCHR, these groups collect anxious and unhappy people and grooms them to participate in propaganda campaigns notable for their over-the-top paranoid and hate filled content. They are able to find a few compromised physicians to provide a patina of legitimacy to their complaints. But they do not fairly represent the scientific consensus.
Here's one of my favorite black PR examples from this tribe:
Our resident photoshop queen (and contributor) Adriana Gamondes created this nightmare on Elm Street for us. We decided to hold off running it until you'd digested your yummy Thanksgiving dinner. Yes, it's Alison Singer, Dr. Tom Insel, Trine Tsouderos, Dr. Steven Novella, Amy Wallace and Dr. Paul Offit sitting down to a babylicious dinner. Gosh, we hope they don't ingest too much mercury from that baby!
Frighten the doctors? Hardly, it was one or more doctors who insisted Child Protective Services seize custody from Elizabeth Wrays' parents, who do not want her to be there.
The Children's doctors who are involved in this have all the power of the State at their disposal, and the parents have none.
You write that the protest, a very small one and the first ever on behalf of PANDAS parents, was intended to frighten these presumbly easily intimidated doctors.
There is nothing to support that contention.
The protest was held to inform the public and protest the abuse of the power of a medical establishment in violation of parental rights and to ask Children's to undo the damage it has caused.
Here is the text of the flier that was distributed:
FREE ELIZABETH WRAY
On October 2, Elizabeth Wray, 16, suffering from PANDAS/PANS induced anorexia, was taken from her parents' custody and placed into confinement at Boston's Children Hospital under state custody where she remains.
Elizabeth's parents had rejected BCH's recommendation to place her in a locked psychiatric ward and not treat her PANDAS/PANS, which BCH said it did not believe in, or Lyme's disease.
PANDAS/PANS, the subject of extensive National Institute of Mental Health studies, is an autoimmune neuropsychiatric disease caused by strep and other infections.
Onset is rapid, sometimes overnight. Children stricken with this disease can suffer from a broad array of symptoms including OCD, tics, separation or generalized anxiety, mood swings, insomnia, developmental regression, frequent urination, and, like Elizabeth anorexia. PANDAS/PANS anorexia arises from OCD fears such as contamination or choking phobias, and not a distorted body image.
Standard treatment for PANDAS/PANS is a course of antibiotics, sometimes supplemented with steroids, or in more recalcitrant cases, IV immunoglobulin.
Conventional treatment with SSRIs for OCD or anti-psychotic medications for tics does not work for PANDAS/PANS because it does not address the underlying infection; these medications often can worsen the symptoms.
Elizabeth was diagnosed earlier this year with PANDAS/PANS by two doctors from New York, where she lives. Her parents, Carrie and Jay Wray, drove 5 hours to BCH to seek better medical care for her worsening anorexia.
They were working with the hospital for a transfer to another facility with PANDAS/PANS knowledge and expertise. Elizabeth had been cleared for transfer when the Wrays were told to appear in court for a custody hearing brought by Massachusetts Child Protective Services at the behest of BCH medical personnel.
Put on neuropsychiatric drugs and denied treatment for her PANDAS/PANS, Elizabeth's condition continues to deteriorate. We urge BCH to release her so she can get proper medical care.
Moarxenu, doctors cannot treat a seriously ill child in a hospital without parental consent. If the parents will not agree to a treatment plan the doctors feel is needed, they are required to contact protective services. Sometimes the case worker can mediate a resolution. Or sometimes the caseworker has to take the matter to a judge. The parents get to tell their side of the story to the judge also. This is a good way to check potential abuses of power.
The doctors at BCH likely reported the referring physicians for those five or so PANDAS cases presenting there to their respective boards of medicine. Consider that these children were diagnosed not just with PANDAS, which is pretty fucking rare, but also with chonic Lyme disease (a highly controversial diagnosis), celiac disease (rare), and some allergic reaction to casein (rare).
The DAN doctors have their own well funded private investigators and dirty tricks operatives who will do what they can to neutralize the threat to their licenses. They follow the "always attack; never defend" routine just like OSA.
Have you followed the antivaccine community much? Are you aware that the PANDAS network is closely linked to the "Thinking Mom's Revolution" aka "Generation Rescue" led by many of the same people who lead Age of Autism, Autism One, and Safe Minds? Safe Minds was founded by Scientologists, btw.
I think you must have a bad impression of doctors, moarxenu, to think that they are so cruel to this poor girl and her family for their own selfish reasons.
Moarxenu, I can't tell you how heartbreaking it is to share a patient with one of these DAN doctors. There's no power in it at all. Only profound helplessness.
fishypants Moderator
An unmedicated child whose parents also make them avoid all the products of technology - such as printed books, housing, electricity, electronic communications, fire and the wheel - is unlikely to come to very many salient conclusions at all, as they rely on the oral tradition for knowledge while living with their parents in a cave, wearing furs and eating raw meat, nuts and berries.
Unless they're the next Voltaire and can reason their way from "I think therefore I am" to the existence of income tax unaided.
/soapbox.
fishypants, Oct 22, 2012
The PANDAS lady, Beth Alison Maloney is also Beth Alison Jelin, who might be this person:
She keeps company with some very interesting people:
http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2009/090318/frtpgWise.html
SCOTTSDALE – On Feb. 11, the same day Sonoran News ran "The faces of greed and the victims left in their wake" about former Scottsdale CPA Danny "Dan" Wise, accused of running a $75 million Ponzi scheme, a man in New York called to say he was a private money lender, as Wise professed to be, who had recently been scammed by Wise.
In early November, several victims of Wise's scheme filed an involuntary bankruptcy against him and Whispering Winds Properties, LLC, which the summary of schedules filed by Wise on Monday indicates victims have been defrauded out of more than $79 million.
The New York caller said he spoke to a man named Steve Floersheim in California, whom he later referred to as a "tax preparer masquerading as a CPA," about Whispering Winds possibly investing with the New Yorker's firm.
When Floersheim asked how he and Wise would know he was serious and actually had funds to loan, the New Yorker wired $160,000 in late November to an account provided by Floersheim.
When the New Yorker contacted the California State Accountancy Board, he said they pointed him back to Wise.
The timing of that funds transfer became more interesting upon Attorney Andrea M. Palmer of Ryley Carlock & Applewhite (RCA) filing her disclosure of compensation of attorneys for the debtors last week.
Palmer stated, "I have agreed to accept $100,000 as a retainer and have received a total of $75,000 to date. On Dec. 3, 2008, in accordance RCA's engagement by the debtors before the petition date, RCA received a retainer in the amount of $25,000 for professional services to be rendered and charges and disbursements to be incurred by RCA in connection with such services. On Dec. 4, RCA received an additional $50,000 as a retainer. Prior to the filing of this statement RCA drew down $36,460.70 from the retainer on account of pre-petition services."
This prompted several of Wise's victims to question where he was getting that kind of money to pay attorneys and were outraged Wise would be using victims' money to pay his legal fees.
Palmer, however, claims, "The source of the compensation paid to me was: ACCUFAST Services, LLC, a non-debtor third party."
It turns out Steven Gary Floersheim is the owner of Accufast Business Services in Palmdale, Calif.
Floersheim was discharged as a debtor last month after he filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy protection in late October 2008, which followed his entering into a wrongful termination settlement agreement with former Accufast employee Barbara Zulueta in the amount of $17,000.
So, as Accufast is being presented as a non-debtor third party, Parker may need to explain how Floersheim and Accufast were able to come up with $75,000 only weeks after filing for bankruptcy and claiming to have no cash, checking, savings or other financial accounts.
On his Schedule F – Creditors Holding Unsecured Nonpriority Claims, Floersheim lists numerous individuals as providing him business loans in 2007 in amounts of $10,000, $15,000 and $25,000.
However, he lists no assets for his business, claiming he has only a leased computer system with a server and five work stations and two leased copy machines.
He used a Small Business Administration loan to purchase a $700,000 commercial building in 2003, but notes on his bankruptcy schedule, "After cost of sale and the applicable exemption, there is no realizable equity in this property."
Floersheim also owed over $20,000 in deficiencies for a repossessed Cadillac and repossessed Corvette.
So, as a guy claiming average monthly income of $16,833 and average monthly expenses of $22,066, a net monthly income of -$5,233, Floersheim wouldn't appear to be someone who could possibly pay out $75,000 for someone else's attorney fees.
And, what happened to the $160,000 wired to Accufast in late November?
Meanwhile, as Wise and Whispering Winds plod along through involuntary Chapter 7 bankruptcy proceedings, Wise has delayed production of documents.
Under Section 10(a) of the Statement of Financial Affairs for Whispering Winds, it asks for "Other transfers" and states, "List all other property, other than property transferred in the ordinary course of the business or financial affairs of the debtor, transferred either absolutely or as security within two years immediately preceding the commencement of this case.
The section is addressed with the response, "Debtor is asserting Dan Wise's Fifth Amendment privilege with respect to transferred property."
Trustee Maureen Gaughan filed a "Notice of Sale" last week stating Dan Wise's Season Sun Tickets, Section 113, Row C, Seats 3-5 will be sold to the general public at ticketmaster.com or through the Phoenix Sun's office.
Attorney Dan Collins of Collins, May, Potenza, Baran & Gillespie, on behalf of Gaughan, recently filed an emergency motion for turnover of Wise's computers, business records, files and financial records.
Palmer responded at 5:22 p.m. on Monday with a hearing set for the matter at 1:30 p.m. on Tuesday.
She asserts in her response the property and records requested contains Wise's attorney-client privileged information; information Wise is obligated to protect, such as social security numbers; sensitive and confidential information of third-parties, including investors, clients and former clients; as well as Wise's Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination.
Besides, Palmer claims, computer equipment is a tool of the trade and statutorily exempt due to Wise's work as a tax return preparer.
She offers up instead a computer located in the Wise's home, which Palmer states is used solely by his minor son, contains no privileged information and is available for "immediate turnover for imaging."
According to Palmer, the remainder of the computers referenced in the Forensic Consultant Agreement, contain e-mail correspondence between Wise and his attorneys that is protected by attorney-client privilege.
Palmer states the computers, in addition to the rest of the requested property, also contain information that "Wise's criminal counsel advises is protected by Wise's Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination due to a pending SEC investigation."
So, until an agreement is in place protecting Wise's privileged and confidential information, Palmer is requesting the court deny the motion.
Landing in their respective state's bankruptcy courts almost simultaneously, Floersheim, Accufast, Wise and Whispering Winds have failed to pay their mortgages, bills, loans and investors.
Even discounting genealogy records, which indicate Wise and Floersheim are most likely related, it appears impossible for a bankrupt Floersheim to bail out a bankrupt Wise and be considered a legitimate "non-debtor third party," especially since the connection between the two has already been made by a victim from New York.
Anonymous, Nov 8, 2012
AKCT
I fucking hate that Scientology is mixed up in the psychiatry debate. It makes opposition to psychiatry look nutty even though there's many aspects of it that deserve protest. If you take psych drugs and they help, good on you, but if your forced by a court to take neuroleptics that basically give you Parkinson's and shave 25years off your life that's not ok. The science on psych meds for the most vulnerable populations (schizophrenics, children, and the elderly) is shaky and worth drawing attention to, despite the ass-hattery of Scientology. Sorry for the rant, that is all.
AKCT, Jan 24, 2014
Katie Tierney Higgins RN
I stopped here while reading through a google search for updates on references to my name in connection with "whistle blowing @ BCH" and "Justina Pelletier" - I am just passing through, with a few updates for anyone still interested in the topics re: BCH-- and/or still wondering if I really exist.
Link to the letter I wrote to MA Dept. of Children and Families on behalf of Justina Pelletier - January 8,2014
http://tribwtic.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/higgins-letter-pdf-pdf
and the op ed piece I wrote for "Mad in America"-- after finally meeting Justina on Thanksgiving Day 2014
http://www.madinamerica.com/2014/12/katie-justina
Pretty obvious that whistle blowing, reporting violations committed at BCH's pedi psych ward, Bader 5 (Oct. '09), was not a deterrent to even greater human rights violations and abuse of teens--.
Back to the drawing board-- and a new career--?
Katie Tierney Higgins RN, Aug 9, 2015
Clunky? Well, what i am trying to express is pretty freaking UNREAL...
Interesting how ANONYMOUS finally made an appearance in support of Justina Pelletier-- though it was rather garish.Seems you didn't realize that Bader 5, the adolescent psych unit at BCH, is licensed by MA Department of Mental Health? You used a sledge hammer to immobilize a flea! Yes, Bader 5 It is a parasite, drawing life sustaining credibility from a prestigious children's hospital. Harvard Child Psychiatry moved into BCH around 1993-- (hint: you missed your target)
~Katie
Katie Tierney Higgins RN, Aug 10, 2015
Thanks for the update Katie and for doing the right thing.
Every profession needs to have honest critics, they play a valuable part in changing things for the better.
Unfortunately where psychiatry is concerned the loudest most belligerent criticisms come from the cult of scientology through its front group "citizen's commission on human rights (CCHR)" whose motivations are self-serving, not based on helping people, and whose arguments are manipulative rhetoric and anti-science. This muddies the waters and diminishes the value of honest critics who can be easily dismissed by just calling them scientologists or sympathizers.
anon8109, Aug 10, 2015
Pretty clever - the kill the messenger tactic smoked to discredit " Scientology / anti- psychiatry protestors . History there, too - going back to the Time article slamming Scientology not long after their formidable attack on Eli Lilly -
Ultimately I am most concerned with the truth and already know that those who have been targeted are also those who are the biggest threat to psychiatry & Pharma -- and it is obvious that the money and detention to take down the greatest threat to our youth - psychiatry , U.S. The CCHR. Any true advocate for protecting kids from psychiatric abuse is supportive of CCHR- Dr David Healy comes to mind He, BTW- connected me with the Pelletier's who sought his help after seeing my posts on his blog.
Maybe take a lesson from Lord of the Rings - the FELLOWSHIP that proved crucial to victory - until we overcome petty biases and stop genuflecting to the media , we will not make much progress protecting kids --
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DeathHamster Member
Katie Tierney Higgins RN said: ↑
Any true advocate for protecting kids from psychiatric abuse is supportive of CCHR
I rather doubt that.
There are people who don't fall for the simplistic fallacy of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend".
DeathHamster, Aug 10, 2015
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No it does not make sense lol
I practice Nichiren Buddhism ; chant Nam- Myoho- Renge-Kyo & recite two chapters of the Lotus Sutra everyday , twice a day. Nothing matters more than what I direct my life force toward - moment to moment. Protecting youth and other vulnerable people has been my life 's work. I will continue along this path - not swayed by fear mongering and insults.
DeathHamster said: ↑
Critical thinking / dialectic reasoning and wisdom from lived experience -, means : avoiding the use axioms , slogans or sound bytes - which are all indicators of the place where one has grown tired of thinking .
I worked with Kevin Hall / CCHR. Cambridge, MA for Justina Pelletier's release from Bader 5. Got to know him well enough to call him my friend . I have also worked to provide and share information that furthers the cause, noting that when people are closely aligned for a common purpose, differences / biases and the like are immediately transcended --
Don't forget that the signature tactic of the Dark Lord was to create divisions and conflict between those he most feared . ( just finished reading the Harry Potter series to my grand kids - some real
Gems in that myth fir sure )
I worked with Kevin Hall / CCHR. Cambridge, MA for Justina Pelletier's release from Bader 5. Got to know him well enough to call him my friend .
Scientologists are nobody's friend dear. They call themselves "homo-novis" or "new human", as in they are a new species of human superior in every way to us regular humans, or as they like to derogatorily call us "homo saps", or wogs, or fresh meat when they are trying to recruit new members into the cult.
Kevin Hall used you to further the goal of his cult to take down all of psychiatry by any means. You were a means to an end. That is all you ever were to him.
His only allegiance is to David Miscavige the current cult leader. Should you ever stop being useful to him, David Hall will turn on you in a heartbeat.
He also doesn't care one bit about Pelletier or her problems. What he does care about is using her as bad PR for psychiatry. In fact Scientology looks down upon anyone who has any sort of illness or weakness, saying it's their own fault. Scientology never actually helps anyone. They are in the business of selling their members "auditing" which means exorcising dead space-alien ghosts from their body for which the Scientology corporation charges $1000 an hour. But they won't tell you this when you join.
Scientology is worse than you think. Never trust a Scientologist.
So many words used for so little purpose.
The fact is that you do seem willing to transcend differences for your noble cause, without being able to examine those differences to see if that was really such a good idea.
Ah yes, Kevin Hall. Not unlike the Westboro Baptists of mental health issues:
Drivers angered at signs January 24, 2007, Peter Reuell, MetroWest Daily News
Category:Kevin Hall
If you're going to invoke fantasy examples, why not C.S. Lewis' The Last Battle where the dwarfs were their own side? They fought against the Calormen, only to turn against the Narnians when it suited them.
It's mistake for serious critics of psychiatry to ally with CCHR or their good friends like "Dr" Ann Tracy. It makes it easy for the establishment to lump everyone in with the Scientologists and dismiss them, and there are people and groups that state flat-out that they want nothing to do with them. It only damages the credibility of people who get too close to them, and then where's your noble cause?
Quentinanon Member
Katie, could you explain why scientology has so many axioms then? The Axioms of Dianetics, the Axioms of Scientology, the Logics, and the Pre-logics. And slogans? Have you read The Code of a Scientologist and The Code of Honour? Also, critical thinking rejects fictitious examples.
I don't know that Hubbard had grown tired of thinking, but he certainly wanted everyone else to think in a way he wanted them to and predictably.
Quentinanon, Aug 10, 2015
Malory Member
If you teamed up with someone like that, without checking them out and then wilfully ignoring the facts when they're presented to you, I'm not only glad you're no longer working in nursing, I'd be delighted if you (and your life force) stayed the fuck away from vulnerable children.
Malory, Aug 10, 2015
lso doesn't care one bit about Pelletier or her problems. What he does care about is using her as bad PR for psychiatry. In fact Scientology looks down upon anyone who has any sort of illness or weakness, saying it's their own fault. Scientology never actually helps anyone. They are in the business of selling their members "auditing" which means exorcising dead space-alien ghosts from their body for which the Scientology corporation charges $1000 an hour. But they won't tell you this when you join.
The Wrong Guy Member
I practice Nichiren Buddhism...
Welcome to WWP. Some of these search results may be of interest to you.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Nichiren cult
The Wrong Guy, Aug 10, 2015
So -- more assumptions? And bold statements regarding both my ability to judge character and the character / intentions of Kevin Hall of CCHR, who assisted in publicizing the very true and real horrific abuses perpetrated by BCH psychiatry clinicians against a sick teenager and her loving family. I had been in close contact with the Pelletier's about 9 months before I met Kevin Hall. I knew all of the key psych clinicians involved ; knew the culture on Bader 5- and had worked with the family to get the story published - from May 2013 / they October 2013 when it became clear the Globe was stalling - enter local media - Beau Berman if CT FOX NEWS , who broke the story the next month , November - pretty much forcing the Globe to publish Neil Swidey's " story" in December. I met Kevin Hall at a protest in front of the court house in Boston- we both were assisting Beau Berman , who courageously continued to produce compelling segments that were picked up by national and international media. MAYBE I WAS USING KEVIN HALL? He was orchestrating press releases - something I could never do !
Assume what you will , but the truth is that Kevin Hall was key to achieving a first - exposing in real time , the corrupt partnership between BCH Psychiatry, Juvenile Court Judge and DCF. As I said in my DCF letter - the goal was to take the weapon of secrecy out of the hands of the abusers. We all worked together to inform the public of something that is not new or solely the practice of Harvard child psychiatry-- something that most people would not want to believe no matter how compelling the evidence of how credible the witnesses may be. This was an endeavor that required a team effort.
I blow past most rules when a child 's life, safety and we'll being are threatened . I had already been discredited and blacklisted as a nurse by BCH for reporting illegal restraints and human rights violations ignored by BADER , the top administrators of BCH and all but 5 other nurses on Bader. I am neither surprised by or intimidated by the inferences made on this thread about me from the comment I posted on CCHR -as recommended by a colleague who hoped , as I did that an organization other than the corrupt MA department of mental health would investigate Bader 5 . I am not a Scientologist, though I am certain I have conducted more in depth research than the critics on this thread have bothered to challenge before making bold pronouncements about anyone associated with CCHR. And then I have my lived experience that makes your warnings about Kevin Hall so laughable. I have met professional , highly respected men and women who display depraved indifference towards the suffering of children. I worked with the bunch who tortured Justina -/ 5 years worth of up close contact -- I have to wonder - again - how you have arrived at the assumption that I am naive or ignorant / or both ?
In any case , as an insider who did her best to protect kids , families and even colleagues from the " agendas" of Harvard's brightest , I am grateful for the aide of capable people with resources for the battle that Robert Whitaker calls, the most important one of our time, or rather he signed my copy of " Anatomy of an Epidemic" with this reference to the scourge of Harvard child psychiatry - when I first met him 4 years ago . Before you mention it , I am well aware of the policy on his website if NON affiliation with CCHR- though I disagree with cowering to " media " - especially when that agenda is so clearly paid for by Pharma - but I know Bob Whitaker to be a smart guy who respects all people who engage on the front lines to protect kids and educate the public.
Curious lot -/ human beings who don't value skepticism , " the chastity of the intellect " - and simply surrender to herd mentality reasoning. It is the very root of the major flaw in psychiatry - though they have spun it into gold - a multi billion dollar industry that can turn any of us into the market for psych drugs. I drew the line when children became their target -/
bAnon Member
Hi Katie
We all draw the line when children are made the target. You may, or may not get what you are looking for here at WWP. Which begs the question: What are you looking for?
bAnon, Aug 10, 2015
The Wrong Guy said: ↑
Oh dear, more cult sightings. They are all the rage, or so it seems. I actually do not practice with the SGI USA-- as per the *directives* of SGI Boston leadership, who ex-communicated me, -- three times since 1998. I still contend that these leaders have REAL claim to their distasteful displays of superiority. Worse,that their cultish flare is a actually a grave offense - according to the teachings of Nichiren. Authoritarian types do not suffer challenges to their authority - gladly, as you may well know.
I just celebrated my 26th year chanting to my Gohonzon, enshrined in my own personal Butsadan, which I share with my husband, family and a few friends. Studying the major writings of Nichiren Daishonin (1222-1282) further strengthens my faith in the profound power of this practice, which is always and only about my own efforts. There are no divine, superior beings, or deities -- no omnipotent , omniscient creators to worship. revere or obey in this Buddhism , based on the Lotus Sutra. Life itself is held in reverence according to the teaching of Shakyamuni Buddha, all life and phenomena in the Universe are endowed with the Mystic Law. The scroll, the Gohonzon represents this Mystic Law and its manifestations, and is called the *object of worship*. However, strictly speaking, the Mystic Law is our lives and the lives of others-- The practice is chanting it, Nam Myoho Renge Kyo-- . Makes you wonder how anyone could create a cult from a religious teaching this simple and straight forward. No intermediaries required-- no such thing as *superior* vs *inferior* people with respect to attaining benefits from sincere practice. Still---
I think the answer lies somewhere in the inherent potential we all also share, *fundamental darkness* , Nichiren calls it. Something like a delusion regarding both our own true nature and true potential and the value of others, that leads people to believe in labels, stereo types , and all sorts of divisions that justify oppressing and exploiting others for personal gain. IF a practice, any practice, produces wealth/power as a direct benefit, look out! For another cult--
Malory said: ↑
Sorry? When I am engaged in *checking people out* , I absolutely consider facts-- and their sources. Ultimately I tend to trust my own judgement and gauge my actions with regard for results-- not praise from bystanders, who have no real stake in the matter.
At the risk of spoiling your potential delight, I feel compelled to share the simple fact that me and my life force are inclined to ignore your sentiments.
Sorry? do you know Kevin Hall? The references and character aspersions flying around this thread are so bizarre-- it is difficult to articulate a meaningful response. I sense that CCHR= Demon to you? OK., but unless you actually know Kevin Hall, which I cannot imagine you do, because if you did you would see how freaking insane your comparing him to Westboro Baptists actually is--.still, REALLY, unless you know Kevin, you are just displaying really poor form insulting and degrading him because he is affiliated with -- oooooNOOO CCHR !
Did you know that as we banter back and forth here, curriculums are being designed-- out of pure and dire necessity, to TEACH tolerance and mutual respect to kids. Why? Because labeling, judging, stereotyping are all spring boards to hate -- and hate crimes.
Anyway-- i have not read C.S. Lewis. So can't draw analogies from that series -- but, Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter are classic myths where the mild mannered, unassuming hero faces horrific, terrifying and agonizing ordeals to accomplish a feat that - only he can accomplish, knowing that failing to fulfill his mission spells death and destruction for everyone who cherishes good. In the process, the hero garners all kinds of critical support from diverse and sometimes unexpected sources-- ALL being drawn to assist him because he , the would be hero, is so good at heart. In the end, the victory belongs to everyone, and there is a wonderful atmosphere of unity and solidarity -- all inspired by the selfless acts of courage the hero has displayed. AND-- all along the action packed journey, the Evil villain employs tactics to disrupt this unity that both sickens and frightens him-- . Classic myths-- both involve *magic* as a symbol of personal, individual power, and a story that demonstrates we all can be heroes. It's the shared catharsis - thing. The popularity of Harry Potter is a contemporary example, or reminder of the appeal of mythology in ancient Greece.
If I am vilified and discredited (again) for anything BUT the validity of the cause I am supporting-- how does that make the cause less noble or any less attainable? Ultimately, if a cause is truly noble, champions will appear-- I saw this happen on Bader-- at the precise moment the Unit Manager was convincing the DMH investigators that I was just a disgruntled employee, 5 nurses made *anonymous* calls to report the exact same violations I had cited-- and added a few more. Thus the investigation happened-- and the practice of restraining and force feeding patients on the unit was stopped-- . IF it so happened that a patient was medically unstable and required tube feeding , but refused, the patient would be transferred to a medical unit-- and the other patients on the unit were no longer traumatized by scenarios I will not be describing here.
eggs, Aug 10, 2015
Quentinanon said: ↑
I can't explain Scientology in depth. I am not a Scientologist. But I can tell you that in 20 months I have known Kevin Hall, for example, we had a few brief dialogues about our religious beliefs, teachings. It was hardly an in depth disclosure exchange, but interestingly enough, to me, there are some similarities between Scientology and the Buddhism I practice, as they both are NOT monotheistic religions and automatically viewed with suspicion. I always tense up a bit when someone who seems interested in my being Buddhist and leads off with the :"Oh, so you don't believe in God ? " question that, I must say , is a somewhat loaded question. I wonder if the mere idea that we believe we are beings who can pursue and attain perfection, or enlightenment-- and are not explaining our lives in terms of the will or wrath of a *Divine Being* -, if that in itself evokes something close to fear from those who do believe in a God- or One God. Atheists get the same scrutinizing and challenging responses from *believers* -- though they seem to get off the hook as being on the fence and potentially will *see the light*. Yeah-- I think NOT believing in God is a big problem for some people, who won't even try to imagine the possibility of anything but their own beliefs-- and then immediately attack someone of another faith who really believes in the doctrines of his.her religion. Bill Mahr has made, IMO, some pretty amazing observations about religion-- itself.
Discussing this thread with my husband earlier today, I learned for the first time that he actually completed two modules at the Church of Scientology in Boston in the 70's. Way before we met. I have known my husband for 19 years-- we have been married almost 17-- and this had never come up-- though he also met Kevin Hall--never was a prompt for this memory. . The thing is-- to my husband it was an *interesting and somewhat valuable* experience - a communication focus, I think. No weirdness-- or crazy conversion attempts--. Raised Catholic, he started chanting around the same time I did-- 1988. I am guessing that IF you get your basic info on line- or via the media, you will be primed with both expectations and judgements that formed in response to what you heard and saw-- BUT, if you visited a Church of Scientology or found yourself working with or enjoying social activities with a Scientologist-- Would you discount all of
the positive vibes or good experiences you (may have) had and immediately shun the person-- because of what you read or heard about his or her religion?
Or maybe I need to file for divorce because my husband withheld his very close encounter/ association with the ACTUAL Church of Scientology-- which makes my brush with CCHR pale by comparison-- ??
Ay yi yi
Don't forget kids, when we wrestle with pigs, we get dirty and the pigs like it.
Scientology is worse than you think. Never trust a Scientologist.[/quote
So-- have you some first hand experience in the Church of Scientology? Or is this another installment from the most recent documentary?
Really-- You are dead sure I was used, then cast aside-- always at risk for outright attack if I STOP BEING USEFUL TO HIM.? This sounds a lot like Voldemort's relationship with his subjects-- the Death Eaters--
in "Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows"
Ohh- Kayyy-- So glad I stopped by to check out the forum where I have already read a few totally off base assessments and pronouncements of me -- from just a few months before I met the Pelletiers. I google my name-- and this thread appeared. I was curious. no one can blame me for that.
I do really understand how so many errors could be made when a group plays *what is your best assumption*-- no criticism, looks like a fun game-- BUT when I stuck around for round 2-- the claim to FACTS that you cannot possible call facts, and the sadistic evisceration of the reputation or character of people you don't know--??
I will just say "so long" and thanks for not insulting my deceased mother.
Night Owl said: ↑
What do the pigs like? Wrestling- or getting dirty?
White Tara Global Moderator
White Tara, Aug 11, 2015
I am certain I have conducted more in depth research than the critics on this thread
The critics on this website have documented their research into CCHR and scientology. Have you?
Have you looked at independently gathered information about CCHR, or have you only looked at CCHR propaganda about itself?

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Hanford was one of three large facilities anchoring the
Manhattan Project – the crash program to build an atomic bomb. It was part of a larger complex linking facilities across the nation. A plant at Oak Ridge, Tennessee, enriched uranium and operated a prototype nuclear reactor. Los Alamos Laboratory in New Mexico assembled a cadre of world-class scientists to design and build the weapons, using materials produced at the other sites. Smaller facilities across the nation made other contributions.
As World War II phased into the Cold War and the U.S.-Soviet arms race escalated, new sites were added in Ohio, South Carolina, Florida, Texas, Colorado and elsewhere. Secrecy masked much of the work at these sites until well into the 1980s, with serious consequences for public health, worker safety and the environment. Nuclear and chemical wastes caused severe contamination at Hanford and the other sites, and dealing with them has proved to be difficult and costly.
Major sites in the Cold War nuclear weapons production complex USDOD
Contamination at Hanford
When the Soviet Union disintegrated in 1991, the U.S. had mass-produced some 70,000
nuclear bombs and warheads. Hanford made most of the plutonium used in those weapons. Workers irradiated uranium fuel in reactors, and then dissolved it in acid to extract the plutonium produced. This method, called reprocessing, generated 56 million gallons of liquid wastes laced with radioactive and chemical poisons.
Hanford's nine reactors were
located along the Columbia River to provide a source of cooling water, and discharged radiation into the river throughout their lifetimes.
Fuel was sometimes reprocessed before its most highly radioactive isotopes had time to decay. Managers knowingly released toxic gases into the air, contaminating farmlands and grazing areas downwind. Some releases supported an
effort to monitor Soviet nuclear progress. By tracking intentional emissions from Hanford, scientists learned better how to spot Soviet nuclear tests.
Liquid wastes from reprocessing were stored in
underground tanks designed to last 25 years, assuming that a permanent disposal solution would be developed later. The U.S. Department of Energy, which now operates the weapons complex and its cleanup program, is still working on that solution.
Workers prepare to remove the core from a waste tank at Hanford in 2010. Hanford Site
Meanwhile, at least a million gallons of tank wastes have
leaked into the ground. This material, and the prospect of more to follow, threatens the Columbia River, a backbone of the Pacific Northwest's economy and ecology. Some groundwater is already contaminated. Estimates of when that plume will reach the river are uncertain.
Radioactive trash still litters parts of Hanford. Irradiated bodies of laboratory animals were
buried there. The site houses radioactive debris ranging from medical wastes to propulsion reactors from decommissioned submarines and parts of the reactor that melted down at Three Mile Island. Some nuclear decision makers have called Hanford a "national sacrifice zone."
A Struggle for Accountability
In the mid-1980s, local residents grew suspicious about an apparent excess of illnesses and deaths in their community. Initially, strict secrecy—reinforced by the region's economic dependence on the Hanford site—made it hard for concerned citizens to get information.
Cold War-era billboard at Hanford reinforcing strict secrecy rulesUSDOE
Once the curtain of secrecy was partially lifted under pressure from area residents and journalists, public outrage prompted two major health effects studies that engendered fierce controversy. By the close of the decade, more than 3,500 "downwinders" had filed lawsuits related to illnesses they attributed to Hanford. A judge finally dismissed the case in 2016 after limited compensation to a handful of plaintiffs, leaving a bitter legacy of legal disputes and personal anguish.
Cleanup operations at Hanford began in 1989, but have been hamstrung by
daunting technical challenges and management errors. The current estimate assumes work will continue through 2060 and cost more than $100 billion, beyond the approximately $50 billion already spent.
A key challenge is building a facility to extract the most toxic materials from the tank wastes and enclose them in glass logs to be sent elsewhere for permanent burial.
Projected costs have ballooned to more than $17 billion, and the estimated completion date is now 2036. And with the proposed Yucca Mountain nuclear waste repository in Nevada mired in controversy, there is still no final resting place for these materials, which will be dangerous for tens of thousands of years.
Cleanup has progressed in other areas. The reactors have been shut down and enclosed in
concrete and steel "cocoons" until their radioactivity decays further. Hanford's "B Reactor," the world's first large-scale nuclear reactor, is now part of the Manhattan Project National Historic Park.
Buffer lands around the outer parts of the site, presumably clean enough for the purpose, have been converted to
wildlife refuge areas. And in 2015, the Laser Interferometer Gravitational Observatory (LIGO), with a station located at Hanford, detected the first gravitational waves predicted by Albert Einstein. LIGO scientists chose Hanford for its remote location and minimal interference from human activity.
Lessons to Remember
The Department of Energy now considers
many of its former nuclear weapons production sites to be fully cleaned up. Some remaining sites are involved in maintaining the current nuclear arsenal and could play roles producing new weapons. Others, like Hanford, are "legacy" sites where cleanup is the sole mission.
There is more oversight of the nuclear weapons complex today, but serious concerns remain. Notably, inspectors have found problems at
Los Alamos National Laboratory dating back to 2011 related to handling of beryllium, a toxic material that can cause cancer and lung disease.
These issues at Hanford and other nuclear sites are reminders that nuclear weapons production is a risky process—and that in Washington state and elsewhere, legacies of the Cold War are still very much with us.
Reposted with permission from our media associate The Conversation.
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