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Interview: An Academy Award Nominee Deniz Gamze Ergüven talks "MUSTANG"
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"MUSTANG" is Deniz Gamze Ergüven's first major film. But when you hear about the multiple nominations and awards this film has received, you'll acknowledge that she has really succeeded at it. Talking about the awards, Ergüven's film received a Golden Globe nomination, won the audience award at the AFI Fest, while the filmmaker got a personal prize at Cannes Film Festival. Also, receives Oscar nomination for best foreign language film. To continue naming all of them is almost impossible, as the film is yet to reach its culmination of awards.
While the film itself follows a difficult subject that, according to Ergüven, was somewhat an experience from the past, she masterfully executes it, leaving the audience in a quiet shock. It's a whole-hearted and delicate film about something that happens not only in the Muslim society, but if you dig deeper, you will be amazed to find out the same can happen in your neighborhood as well.
This is why, I am really pleased to publish my interview with the talented filmmaker, Deniz Gamze Ergüven, with whom I had the pleasure to sit down and discuss her film during the Toronto International Film Festival.
MOVIEMOVESME: What inspired you to write a story about five sisters going through what they went through?
Deniz Gamze Ergüven: The triggering event which was important for me was the fact that it was such a non important issue that was completely changing the lives of these girls. Saying a lot about the type of injustice they were living in I felt was the one thing at the base of my desire to make this film. The fact that there's this strong sexualisation of women in Turkey and for instance a school director insists that the boys and the girls go into class using different staircases, it's a way of saying there's something sexual happening at 8 O' Clock in the morning which is not the case. Not being able to consider woman differently, that was the inspiration behind it.
MOVIEMOVESME: How did you develop the story to get it the way you wanted to portray?
Deniz Gamze Ergüven: I had to distance it as much as I could from reality to be able to tell it or try to focus in the feelings rather than the event. I guess the resonance of the film becomes more emotional when we do that. There is some fiction in the way the actors acted and made every single aesthetical choice to transcend the gloomy content and make it emotional.
MOVIEMOVESME: The movie begins with her and ends with her; why did you pick the youngest of the sisters to be the leader?
Deniz Gamze Ergüven: There was something about that she builds up on the experience of the others and she's at the best place to explore the different destinies that could potentially be her own destiny if she didn't take action. So there was something in her heritage strongly that was making her act. A very strong feeling of growing up like a fruit of a tree as well. My grandmother lived in a very difficult condition, she managed to herself all her life, made my father study in a way that he let me decide to be whatever I wanted to be in my life and I have that impression of being lifted by the people. The youngest sister, she manages to not only explore the best possible way to tell her story and act upon it. Plus, I share her point of view and the youngest of her family, for two generations they have a lot of girls and women, so there are a few things I've left as questions, so all these things concorded into the choice.
MOVIEMOVESME: As per Turkish culture, it is a very bold movie; I wonder how you managed to bring up the subject matter with these young girls so that they understand the concept and deliver in such a perfect way?
Deniz Gamze Ergüven: It's a lot and lot of discussion plus again it's going through fiction talking about wha the condition of women in Turkey is. Each time at the moment of the script or at the moment of the directing, you have to give a lot of material from the research you've done. All these things can trigger behavior with the girls. By the time we were shooting I think we had explored not only what we were working on but the world in which the film was anchored; all of it's layers had become completely organic.
MOVIEMOVESME: This is your first movie so you could have chosen some other subject. How important was this story to you to you went with it?
Deniz Gamze Ergüven: First of all, I had a previous script which was my first feature film project. I worked on it for years and eventually it was too big for a first feature film and so put it on the side. Then I made a plan that I need to shoot a film very quickly and went from what was the easiest for me to a frightening one. My first film was about Los Angeles riots, another geography another time. So people couldn't picture me doing something like that. For me it's obvious, the resonance was obvious. That's how most things started off and then there were some very deep movements at the bottom of the film and most times my curiosity was going on about what it it like to be a woman in a specific country and culture. So everything I was reading, the questions I was asking led me here.
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Video: Preview The Real Housewives of Orange County Reunion!
The first part of the reunion of the Real Housewives of Orange County is set to air Wednesday, March 10 on Bravo, and based on the clip below, it should not disappoint.
Gretchen Rossi is asked about a comment she made back in January during which she revealed her suspicion that Tamra Barney's divorce might be a publicity stunt. We clearly now know that isn't the case.
Gretchen is also asked a fan question on whether she thinks Tamra being accused of cheating by husband Simon is karma. If you recall, Tamra was very vocal during last year's reunion when she accused Gretchen of cheating on her now deceased fiance, Jeff Beitzel.
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Gretchen Rossi Ordered To Court & Talks Tamra, Slade, & Inheritance In Interview
Gretchen Rossi has been ordered to court to disclose her finances according to RadarOnline. This all has to do with Jay Photoglou of course, and the $18,900 he was awarded in legal fees connected to a restraining order case she filed against him last year.
A Newport Beach, California Judge ordered the Real Housewife of Orange County to appear in court March 10 to provide information about her finances and assets.
Which brings us to Gretchen's new interview with the LA Times, during which she opens up about her financial situation, more importantly sets the record straight on the $2.5 million her deceased fiance Jeff Beitzel left her in his will. While Gretchen admits she was left $2.5 mil by Jeff, she also insists she has yet to receive the money as Jeff's estate is in a deficit.
Gretchen also discusses her never-ending feud with Tamra Barney, as well as where they stand today. She also talks Slade, the whole Alexa Curtin ordeal and how she deals with the negativity that comes with being on the show. What she doesn't talk about however is Jay.
Excerpts from Gretchen's interview below –
It was hard to track you down. You're a busy gal. What are you working on right now?
Oh, gosh. If I told you, you'd be worn out by the time we were done.
Maybe you should tell Vicki [Gunvalson]…
That's so true. I should call Vicki up and say, "Come spend a day with me and let's have a little chitty-chat about what I really do."
Right now, at this given moment, the last week has just been kind of crunch time for my makeup line (Gretchen Christine Beaute) that I'm launching.
And we see that you're not rolling in the dough — as some suspected — after Jeff's death.
Everybody had this misconception that I was with Jeff for his money. And that Jeff had millions and millions of dollars and … he didn't; meaning right now his estate is in the deficit. It really was never information that I thought was appropriate to share but, unfortunately, when his will gets released to the public and everyone is reading it and saying he left me $2.5 million — well, he did. The problem is, is that if he doesn't have $2.5 million to give me — you know, his estate doesn't have it because it's in the deficit — I'm not going to get it. If somebody doesn't have the money, it really doesn't matter. That's where I think the misconception comes in. Everybody thinks I got left millions of dollars — which I did — but I have not received it. The thing, too, is that I never saw Jeff's money as my money. It was always nice to be in a relationship with someone who was well off at the time that we were dating; I was spoiled rotten, yes. And I had a great lifestyle with him … but I also made my own money and the show really didn't show that side of me. They didn't show me as the entrepreneur that I was.
So how did you get involved? Did you audition?
For me, it was a different scenario. I was at a girlfriend's party down at a restaurant here in Newport. Jo [De la Rosa] and Slade [Smiley] were actually sitting across the table from me at this party and I was being my crazy, flamboyant, obnoxious self and they started whispering to each other. I was like, "Are you guys talking crap about me?" — teasing them. They were like, "No, but you're perfect for the show." I was like, "Perfect for what show?" Cause they hadn't been on for a couple of years so I wasn't really sure what they were talking about. And they said I'd be perfect for "Housewives." I was like, "You guys are smoking crack. I'm not doing that." Slade kept insisting.
The next morning, I get a phone call from the casting agent at 7 a.m.; she said, "I hear you're perfect." It took a whole day of phone calls back and forth for them to even convince me. It really came down to me sitting down with Jeff. He was the one who convinced me to do that. I think the reason for that was that at that point, we had been in and out of the hospital for the last three or four months. We were right at a point where we thought we would get told he was going into remission. He was like, "You know, honey" — cause I had actually been approached three other times to do reality shows; I just turned them down because it wasn't something I wanted to do. He just said, "Honey, you keep getting these opportunities. Maybe there's something in the universe telling you to do this. And I'm really kind of sick of everything, everyday being about cancer. This sounds like fun."
I think he saw it as an opportunity to travel and have an excuse to go do things. So he was the ultimate reason I ended up doing the show.
The rift seems to now center on this blog entry you wrote. Tamra [Barney] wants you to take it down, but you refuse. Can you talk a little bit about why?
I'm not going to take it down. There were so many things that Tamra put out there to the press and the show that were contradictory or that were lies. All those things are out in cyberspace forever and ever. So as soon as she can figure out a way to get all those things taken down, then I'll be happy to take it down. But as long as those things are out there, the blog is my only source of truth and my only source of getting what really happened out there. I was rather taken aback by her because I believed she was my friend all season, and when she attacked me at the reunion show I was like, 'Where in the hell did this come from?" So I wanted to clear the air up.
So are you guys still somewhat friendly? I mean, we see that you do have fun when you're in a group setting. Have you reached out to her since news of her divorce?
No. Tamra and I don't talk. We're not girlfriends. We don't call each other and say, "Let's go hang out and have coffee." I never really had problems with Tamra. I always liked Tamra; I got along with her and I thought she was funny and I thought our personalities were very similar. I liked her. But you just know when there's poisonous people in your life and you know when people are trying to pull wool over your eyes and, for me, she's one of those people. She might not be that way with other people, but she is with me. She is someone that I work with and someone I will be cordial with. And we'll have a good time. The whole situation with the divorce and stuff … after the way she treated me after Jeff passed away, I don't necessarily see myself calling her up and saying, "Hey, how ya doing?" Cause of the way she treated me. I'm a big believer in treating people the way they treat you.
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Judge Orders Gretchen Rossi To Pay Ex $18,000
We reported a while back that Gretchen Rossi's alleged ex, Jay Photoglou, won a court order which required Gretchen to pay his court fees.
Well RadarOnline is now reporting those court fees amount to $18,000, and on Feb 1, a Judge ordered the Real Housewives of Orange County star to pay the entire amount to her alleged ex.
This is in connection to a restraining order case Gretchen filed against Jay last year. She obtained a temporary restraining order against Jay but it was then dropped by a judge when Gretchen refused to show up to court for a follow up. Jay had asked for attorneys fees and costs.
Jay also filed a lawsuit against Gretchen for slander and libel and several other counts last week, just days before Bravo filmed the reunion show.
According to Jay, Gretchen has damaged his reputation by calling him a liar, thief ,and drunk. Jay claims he and Gretchen were a couple when she joined the Real Housewives of OC but for the show's dramatic purposes she was linked to another man.
Gretchen also recently revealed on the show that though her deceased fiance, Jeff Beitzel, left her over $2 million in his will, she did not receive a penny because his estate was in debt of over $3 million.
Gretchen Rossi Sued For Slander And Libel By Ex, Tamra Talks Gretchen
The certified douchebag and alleged stalker known as Jay Photoglou refuses to go away once again. The latest is he is now suing his proclaimed ex, Gretchen Rossi for libel and slander and five other counts.
According to RadarOnline, this all stems from Gretchen denying ever being romantically involved with him, as she was depicted as the fiancé of Jeff Beitzel during the last season of the Real Housewives of Orange County.
In the lawsuit, Jay claims he and Gretchen began dating in 2008 and Gretchen told him that she was only a caregiver to the then terminally ill "ex-boyfriend friend, Jeff Beitzel." Jay goes on to claim that over the next year, he and Gretchen were "a couple" and "vacationed together, went to marriage workshops together, attended each other's family vacations and had each other's names tattooed on their fingers."
The lawsuit further claims that Gretchen was "intimately involved with Photoglou the entire time the show filmed Rossi's first season."
Jeff died of Cancer in September, 2008. Jay says he and Gretchen tattooed each other's names on their fingers the following month and that he eventually moved into Rossi's house.
Jay charges Gretchen with damaging his reputation by calling him a liar, a drunk and a thief and is demanding punitive damages in the lawsuit. The lawsuit charges Gretchen with spreading lies in published interviews, in emails to private individuals and members of the media. Other damaging lies allegedly spread by Gretchen, according to the court documents, include allegations that Jay threatened her life, stalked her, stole from her and acted irrationally. According to Jay, these acts damaged his personal and business reputation, he claims and he will seek punitive damages from Gretchen.
You can see photos of Gretchen and Jay here.
Jay states in the court docs: "In reality, Rossi denied the truth and embarked in what is nothing short of an obsessive and delusional crusade to destroy." This is funny coming from a man who for whatever reason became obsessed with the world knowing he was seeing Gretchen. The same man who has emailed practically all major websites, blogs and news organizations, begging them to let him tell his "story," and supplying/leaking out multiple nude and raunchy photos of a woman he alleges to be his ex girlfriend, even allegedly threatening to leak a sex tape of her.
Dear Jay, you are slimy, sleazy, greasy and obsessed. We all get it, Gretchen lied and continues to lie about her involvement with you. We've all seen the photos you leaked, yes you two were involved. Really we GET IT. You are now free to move on with your life, perhaps get a job, you know one that doesn't involve you being a famewhore. Seriously, you are giving Jon Gosselin a run for his money during his famewhore hay-day, you know before the TLC injunction. Move on with your life, you have proven your point. Judging from the way you completely attempted to destroy the life and well being of someone you claim to be your ex fiance, I'm certain many women would love to give you a try.
In other Pot Calling the Kettle Black news, everybody's favorite housewife – Tamra Barney had this little tidbit to say in her blog this weekend – "I swear Gretchen cant get enough of me. What the heck is this girl's problem? It's like she can't go one episode without trying to knock me down."
It doesn't end there as Tamra then claims Gretchen only bought the bike to one up her – "We all know the ONLY reason she bought that bike was to UP me. She is so calculating in all her scenes, it is like she studied the prior season just to see how she can get a rise out of the rest of us. Little does she know we all laugh at her. All the ladies BUT Alexis are on to her BS."
Very funny coming from a 42 year old mother of four who spent the entire last season bad mouthing Gretchen every chance she got. Who even went as far as to try to get Gretchen "naked wasted" in hopes Gretchen would embarrass herself (which she did) and perhaps spill some sordid secrets. Who then decided to befriend a middle aged strange male aka Jay Photoglou, who called her in the middle of the night, in hopes of getting some dirt about Gretchen. And of course even texted this man during last year's reunion to continue to try to get dirt on a woman she barely knew.
Vicky was never a big fan of Gretchen either, but she never made it a point to try to get her naked wasted and I highly doubt Vicky would have ever entertained the likes of Jay. Sighs, just when I was starting to like you Tamra, you show just how extremely delusional you are. There's a reason majority of fans dislike you. You seriously don't know when to stop. Most people actually do believe Gretchen lied about a lot of things, but they continue to hate you because of your bizarre obsession with wanting to "out" her. Without even knowing it, your obsessive behavior towards the girl only ended up making her out to be more of a "victim," which she definitely isn't.
My take on the whole Gretchen issue – At the end of the day, I don't dislike Gretchen. Is she my favorite housewife? No. Is she a liar? Yes. Is she a complete and total idiot for trusting Jay and taking nude photos for him? Yes, but at the end of the day, I still somewhat like her and can see why she is still a fan favorite despite her many many lies. My take on the whole Gretchen and Jeff issue has always been no one knows what goes in a relationship between two consenting adults. Some people have open relationships, and others give their partners permission to date others etc. Might it be immoral and unacceptable to you? Sure, but it does happen. I'm not saying this was the situation between Gretchen and Jeff's relationship as I have no knowledge of that, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was.
With that being said, no one, not Tamra, had a right to try to judge and make it her life mission to reveal Gretchen's lies because I'm pretty certain all the housewives on the show have told lies deliberately or lied by omission. I mean Tamra recently admitted to making lots of phone calls to her ex boyfriend, something Simon claimed was part of his reason for filing for divorce. Well interestingly enough, Tamra never revealed this little tidbit during filming. I mean Tamra Barney calling her ex excessively (Over 200 phone calls according to Simon) while on the brink of divorce would have surely made an excellent storyline. And I'm shocked and appalled that Tamra, someone who prides herself on honesty, and is so quick to call others out, would choose not to share this with Bravo cameras. Does this make Tamra a liar? a hypocrite? Perhaps but the point is all of these housewives have certain things they choose to share with us, and certain things they choose to hold dear.
Real Housewives of Orange County Tamra Barney's Husband Files For Divorce
In a shocking bombshell, RadarOnline is reporting that Simon Barney, husband of Tamra Barney of The Real Housewives of Orange County has filed for divorce.
Even more shocking? Simon is accusing his wife of infidelity. This is quite ironic as tonight's episode of The Real Housewives of OC deals with the couple's marital troubles.
In the divorce papers Simon wrote: "Petitioner contends that Respondent has been verbally abusive and has committed acts of disloyalty and infidelity." According to a source close to the couple, Tamra reportedly moved out of their million dollar home earlier this week and into a two-bedroom apartment.
Simon and Tamra have been married for 11 years. They have three children together in addition to Tamra's son from a previous marriage. "Simon has simply had enough," the source said. "The show changed her." The source adds that though they had been having marital problems for the past couple of years, Tamra did not know that Simon was filing divorce papers, even after she moved out of their home.
It is interesting to see Simon accuse his wife of being unfaithful as viewers know Tamra has been very vocal and critical of fellow cast member Gretchen Rossi, claiming Gretchen cheated on former fiancé Jeff Beitzel.
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UPDATE: A rep for Bravo tells UsMagazine that Tamra has "no comment" at this time . She will however be opening up next week on Bravo. "She is going to share her story first on Bravo's Watch What Happens Show hosted by Andy Cohen, airing next Thursday at midnight."
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The Real Housewives of Orange County & Their Money Woes
The recession has affected most households in this country and even The Real Housewives of Orange County are not exempt.
This season has chronicled the housewives' financial struggles whether small or major. Gretchen Rossi had a garage sale, Jeana Keough went shopping with her daughter at H&M, Tamra Barney is now doing her own housework, and coming up soon will be the eviction of Lynne Curtin. Off camera, Slade Smiley's financial difficulty is also common knowledge since the publication of a report showing he owes over $80,000 in back child support.
All of the above is a drastic turn from what we're used to seeing from the OC Housewives. Long gone are the days of buying yatches, diamond rolexes and harleys. A new article from the Huffington Post details the financial woes of the housewives. "All of them have been very much affected by the economic situation," explains the show's executive producer, Douglas Ross.
Ross discusses the upcoming episode that will show Lynne's family being evicted. "We try to treat it as gently but as honestly as we can," Ross says. "We happened to have been there with our cameras … as part of our normal schedule when they were served the eviction notice. It's one of those great reality TV moments that happened to be caught because we were in the right place at the right time."
And though money can be a sensitive issue, the OC housewives don't seem to mind sharing their struggles with millions of viewers. "It helps people across the nation because they realize it's not just them," says Jeana. "I'm pretty open. … There's not too much I'll hide. It was difficult for my husband … but the world's in this place right now and I think people are going to relate to it," adds Tamra.
Though the housewives get paid to appear on the show, Jeana says the amount (rumored to be $100,000 per housewife) is not enough to support a family. "It's so minimal. It's not enough to make your house payments. It's more like a location fee to keep your house clean."
Vicky Gunvalson is however one of the luckier housewives as her insurance business is booming more than ever. "When I first started (on the show), I was working out of the house with two employees and now I have a huge office with 10 employees, 700 agents out in the field," says Vicki, who plans to retire comfortably at age 55. Interestingly, the HuffingtonPost article quotes Vicki as saying she is 42 years old, which is false as she is 47.
Despite her very public eviction, Lynne says things are looking up for she and her family as she predicts they will be able to build a house next year. "My husband is a builder in Southern California. It's not like he doesn't try. He's not sitting at home watching TV. He is going out and making an effort. … I've been married for 20 years. … We've had the high life we've had the low life. It's just reality."
The Real Housewives of Orange County Preview: Gretchen Vs Tamra
The Real Housewives of Orange County have surprisingly stayed out of the headlines for the past week, but tonight's episode of the OC Housewives will likely change that as we get to see a confrontation sit-down between arch rivals, Tamra Barney and Gretchen Rossi.
The above preview shows Tamra and Gretchen doing lunch, as the two attempt to put the past behind them. Tamra once again brings up Gretchen's alleged boyfriend, Jay Photoglou. The Jay drama began when Jay called Tamra during filming last year, and told Tamra that Gretchen was cheating on her then fiance Jeff Beitzel, with him. When most 40 year old mothers receive random phone calls from random men in the middle of the night, they tend to ignore it, block their numbers, or tell him to never call them anymore, but no, not our Tamra. How could she pass up an opportunity to get some damaging info against Gretchen, who she seemed to be rather jealous of for no reason at all. Tamra of course entertained Jay and even struck up somewhat of a friendship with him.
The drama continued as Jay continued to call and email Tamra. The led to Tamra accusing Gretchen of two timing Jeff during the Reunion show, as well as some name calling between the two ladies in the media. Jay in the meantime continued to leak numerous scandalous photos of Gretchen, including the now infamous vibrator photos.
Some of the leaked photos include Gretchen kissing Jay while wearing her engagement ring from Jeff. Gretchen interestingly has never really explained these photos, and maintains she never cheated on Jeff.
In the mean time, the feud between Tamra and Gretchen has even gotten nastier based on a recent interview they both gave In Touch magazine. You can read that story here.
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Driving in the hills can be real pleasure if you just take a bit of extra care.
Please Dont Drink & Drive as this might put you and your dear ones life in danger.
Night driving is inadvisable on Indian roads. If you must, the look out for pedestrian and cyclist on narrow roads. They are hard to see because of the high beams of oncoming vehicles.
In the winter especially, day driving is the best. Fog may engulf you after sunset and, if its's thick enough, fog lights become ineffective - sometimes you can't see even your own car bonnet.
Tractor-trailers and animal-drawn carts are also a hazard at night, espacially in fog; these ghostaly object suddenly appear on the road sans tail lamps.
Be considerate and dip your headlights for oncoming vehicles. The whole idea is to see and be seen !
Going downhill, stay off the brakes as much as possible and shiftinto a lower gear.
Don't hit the brakes hard, because you risk locking them.
Always engage a lower gear when going uphill before entering a curve or riding a slope, so as to get better engine compression.
Ensure that you have enough momentum as you into a curve or up a slope, and maitain it so that you don't stall midway.
Don't let the engine go into low revs, which can induce knocking, but let the momentum carry you right through the curve.
On ice, snow or wet ground, do not make the mistake of dropping into a lower gear, which will make the wheels spin all the more. It is better to go to a higher gear and keep going through.
If you hit a really skiddy patch, you might try lowering the air pressure to get better traction out of the tyres.
Be especially careful while driving in rain. Visibility can drop to a dangerously low 25 meters. Never try to move on kuccha stretches along the highwayduring a rainstrom, and turn on your windshield wipers before slogging through a big mud puddle.
Avoid using sprinklers to clean the windscreen while on high passes - the water may freeze on your windscreen.
Remember that after driving through water, braker become less effective - so maintain some extra distance between your car and the one that is just ahead of you.
Keep in mind that people in the hills are often very bad about honking their horns. Ensure, however, that you keep blowing yours so that you don't meet up with any nasty surprises round a corner.
TYERS Check the wear and tear on your tyres. Irregular wear may indicate that there is a problem with the suspension.
BRAKES Top up the brake oil. Check the brakes shoes and brake pressure.
OIL Lube oil is the lifeblood of your engine. Ensure that engine, gear and deferential oils are all at the correct level.
FILTERS Change the fuel, air and oil filters if you are setting out on a long drive. Make it a point to clean the air filter regularly on dusty roads.
BATTERIES On a long journey, avoid using a battery that is over two years old.
HORN This should be in perfect condition, esecipally on hill drives.
V-BELTS Change the v-belts of your fan, alternator or AC if there's been any wear and tear.
HEADLIGHTS Check the focus of your head lamps, espcially if you foresse a bummpy ride.
SHOCKERS Get the shock absorbers checked before starting.
LEAF SPRINGS Check for cracks in leaf springs, especially the main ones.
WHEELS Your car's tyres may get damaged if the wheel aren't aligned properly; also wheel imblanaced can cause vechicle to shake at higher speed.
WIPERS Check the wiper blades. especilly in the rainy season.
RADIATOR Check radiator coolant and hosepipes to aviod a braekdown in summer traffic jams.
V-BELTS For fan and alternator.
FUSES & THICK WIRE Fuses for all electric points; think wire for faults.
TOOLS Screwdriver set, wrench, key-set , jack and jack rod, wheel spanner, knife, torch.
LEAF SPRING Main leaf springs are a must for bumpy roads, such as those in Ladakh.
TUBES You may not find new tubes in smaller settlements.
SMALL SHOVEL Always helpful in snowbound areas.
WOODEN LOGS In case a leaf spring breaks in the middle of nowhere.
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Dottore Giovanni Leonardi, Direttore Generale delle professioni sanitarie and Work Package Leader of Work Package 5, was invited by the European Network of Medical Competent Authorities (ENMCA) to give a status briefing over the Joint Action. His presentation provided the members with the last information. Giovanni warmly invited the members, both as ENMCA and individually, to join the Bratislava Conference, and promoted the future activities of the Joint Action like the London and Utrecht workshops.
The ENMCA members were eager to learn about the usage of the various surveys issued by the Joint Action. Also, they queried how the results of the JA will be utilized both by the EU Commission and by the Member States. Giovanni recalled the overall objectives of the JA, and especially the creation of a network of expertise with as major goal to support the Member States and the EU in taking effective and sustainable measures. Also, referring to the Italian participation, I also encouraged the members to get actively involved in JA activities, since it is a unique opportunity to get acquainted with planning methodologies through a bottom-up approach.


Author and historian Rebecca Marshall Farnbach has carved out a successful niche in the historical writing genre. Her exhaustive research into the archives of long-forgotten eras of small towns throughout Southern California has allowed her to resurrect their rich histories for readers of all ages.
Q: Tell a little about yourself and how you came to be a writer.
A: I have always enjoyed the written word. I loved to hold books and hymn books in my little hands even before I could read. I tried to decipher the patterns of print on the pages, later to learn the importance of each letter and punctuation mark.
I started to write in earnest as a teen and am remembered as "the girl who was always writing." I carried a notebook everywhere so I wouldn't lose an inspired thought for not having paper on which to record it.
I mostly wrote poetry at first and did a few short stories and some journalistic pieces for our local newspaper and junior high paper, which I co-edited.
My "big break" came when I was 17 years old and Seventeen magazine published an article I wrote about a community activity in my hometown in Iowa. They paid me for the article and radio stations interviewed me from my hometown and from Des Moines which was 60 miles away.
A: I founded and host a writers critique group. Since its beginning in 1998, we have published over 30 books. Three of the writers have landed good contracts with good publishers. I am presently doing editing for others and write articles for various historical publications. I am in the middle of a rewrite of a historical fiction novel based on fact.
Q: How do you approach research while writing?
A: I gather all of my information before I write. I print it and organize paperwork on my dining room table and sort it out to fit the outline I have in my head. Then I go to the computer to compose, taking with me the papers pertinent to the passage I'm writing.
For sources for my present project, I am fortunate to own personal correspondence between family members of the main character and other resources collated by others and found in libraries. My husband and I traveled to the character's home in upstate New York and visited the church he attended and the graveyard where his family is buried. We went to his grave in Michigan. We interviewed his living great-grandchildren and those of his colleagues. We studied ships and sailing during the period of time he traveled by sea. We studied the political and social climates of India where his story takes place.
For the Arcadia "Images of America" series books, our teams put them out in about nine months each. As you see above, my ongoing story is yet to be published.
Q: What role, if any, does spirituality or intuition play in writing?
A: I believe every part of our beings that is deeper than the surface is spiritual. We can call it different names, but I experience being in touch with God who directs my emotions and feelings. The more raw honesty I bring to the page, the better the writing.
Q: Writers are sometimes solitary creatures. Is this a good or bad thing?
A: I can go hours, even days focused on my work and have to push myself at times to leave the house and to mingle with other people. Fortunately, or unfortunately, I do not make enough income from writing so I have to work, so that gets me away from my keyboard.
I find I have to take "people breaks" or "exercise breaks" to gain new perspective which adds strength and richness to my writing.
Q: Do you ever lose focus? How do you get it back?
A: I don't lose focus. My main problem is finding windows of sufficient time to work on my projects. This book project requires more than just an isolated hour here and there. I need to discipline myself to get up early in the morning and to crank out a few hours of work before starting my usual morning routine.
Ms. Farnbach's "Images of America" can be found at Barnes & Noble stores and online at Amazon.com.
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I bought my AX 1.5 diesel for £600 a year ago with 107k night and day just like a second vehicle. Up to now really the only expense remains if you do complete muppet broke in and stole the trunk of my stereo system system and perscription glasses! The diesel engine gives around 50 mpg on an outing and apart from spewing out water within the radiator cap its ok. Must proceed now though becasue it is boring.
am now in my second AX GT – that certain can be a ltd edition GT500. The last owner has spent no less than £3000 about it the dog's dangly bits. It's white-colored 15″ KN alloys with Toyo Proxes tyres, Impreza scoop, resprayed British Racing Eco-friendly, Bilstein shocks and it is derived, poly shrubbery, drilled and grooved dvd disks with Padgid fast road pads, stainless brake lines, Pipercross induction package together with a Powerflow custom full stainless exhaust. It's going like stink but offers quite a bit grip it feels underpowered, a predicament I intend to change afterwards! Unsure whether a up-to-date AX lump or perhaps VTR conversion, might need to stay with the AX engine as it can be less hassle. Other mods planned include Morette quad vehicle car headlights, strut brace as well as the small couple of blending inside my ICE that's presently dwelling inside the 405 estate I provided to my cousin, a sizable job that particular. (6 funnel Viper amplifier, Down mind unit, JL Audio sub, Focal PolyKevlar components, Focal dual concentrics as well as possibly 6x9s essentially think I would like them, don't think I'll though!
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5 Ways Teens Can Get More Fruits and Vegetables Into Their Diets
A new study found that high school students aren't getting enough produce.
Young Adults' Pandemic Mental Health Risks
In a new C.D.C. survey, 18- to 24-year-olds reported the highest levels of symptoms of anxiety and depression, and a quarter of them said they had seriously considered suicide.
Black and Hispanic Americans turn to doctors who look like them for reassurance on vaccinations.
By Gina Kolata
Denese Rankin, a 55-year-old retired bookkeeper and receptionist in Castleberry, Ala., did not want the Covid-19 vaccine. Her opinion toward the vaccine was like many Black, rural Americans: The vaccine had come about too quickly to be safe.
Now Is a Time to Learn From Hispanic Americans
By Nicholas Kristof
The "Hispanic paradox" could offer a model for civil society.
Have I Been Cleaning All Wrong?
Many household disinfectants promise to kill 99.9 percent of germs, but some of us might be cleaning too swiftly to let them do their job.


Gibraltar is one of my favourite places and I couldn't help but take the opportunity to go back there again this year. This is a quick post because I just wanted to share with you the surreal, fantastic sight of Santa on a cherry picker sorting out the lights himself. Great to see the task not being delegated.


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> $1.1M grant from Mellon Foundation will facilitate advances in email curation
$1.1M grant from Mellon Foundation will facilitate advances in email curation
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill has received a grant for $1.1 million from The Andrew W. Mellon Foundation for a project to develop a toolset that will enable institutions to more quickly and efficiently process emails included in born-digital collections. The UNC School of Information and Library Science (SILS) is partnering with the State Archives of North Carolina under the NC Department of Natural and Cultural Resources (NC DNCR) for the two-year project, which will launch in January. The Review, Appraisal, and Triage of Mail (RATOM) project's goals are particularly significant for organizations, including libraries, archives and museums (LAMs), that need to provide public access to records while protecting private information.
"Email is often present in collections, series, or acquisitions that include other types of materials. LAMs are increasingly looking for tools and methods to identify and document both the records and contextual relationships between them," said SILS Professor Christopher "Cal" Lee, who will serve as Principal Investigator (PI) for the project. "RATOM will support interactive selection and appraisal of records using free and open source software."
RATOM will focus on developing new software and workflows that will help institutions identify email in born-digital collections, review email sources for sensitive or restricted materials, and perform appraisal and triage to identify and annotate records. The project will specifically explore the use of machine learning to separate irrelevant emails from those that should be preserved, and will apply natural language processing methods to identify topics of interest within those records, so the messages can be tagged for improved organization and retrieval.
RATOM will build on the successes of BitCurator, BitCurator Access, and BitCurator NLP, previous projects Lee led at SILS, as well as the Transforming Online Mail with Embedded Semantics (TOMES) project conducted by the State Archives of North Carolina (SANC). TOMES has developed software to identify email accounts of public officials with enduring value in order to capture, preserve, and provide access to important government records. In addition to Lee, RATOM project personnel will include SILS Research Scientist Kam Woods (Co-PI) and DARNC Section Head of Digital Services Camille Tyndall Watson (Co-PI).
"Despite 47 years of email creation and the vital role of email as documentation of activities across all sectors of society, the professional curation of email is still relatively immature," said Lee. "With RATOM, we hope to significantly advance the process."
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The spectacular mountains of Sun Peaks are at their best in the warm months of summer. During this time the mountains become a kaleidoscope of colour as the multitude of wildflowers blossom from the village to the alpine.
The mountains of the area abound with animals free roaming in their natural habitat. Catch a glimpse of the area's natural wildlife as you hike through the blossoming mountain or relax, sit back and see what you can see from the comfort of the chairlift.
The area in and around Sun Peaks is home to several species, ranging from the noble blue heron and majestic bald eagle to the haunting loon and delicate hummingbird.


HOUSTON According to the Harris County Sheriff's Office, Tram Tran's husband was driving a Nissan northbound in the 14500 block of I-45 on Saturday with Tran in the passenger seat. Her husband began to choke on a glass of water he was drinking. He passed out as a result of choking and struck the concrete retaining wall. After striking the wall, the Nissan became disabled in the middle of the freeway.
Deputies say Tran called 911 to report the incident when the Nissan was struck from behind by a Toyota Camry.
Tran, who is pregnant, was transported as a result of the second collision to Memorial Hermann Hospital in critical condition.
This collision remains under investigation by the Harris County Sheriff's Office.


Beside a still pond in the middle of fairly dense Forest woodland is what looks at first like a 'staircase to nowhere.' This is the "Observatory" that was created by Bruce Alan. There are some intriguing ideas embedded in it. Reminiscent of an under-stairs 'Glory Hole' of a dark cupboard, or perhaps somewhere underground, is a small room beneath the flight of stairs. The stairs themselves lead up to a landing, in the light and airy space of midway to the treetops.


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Address 2600 JT Ottinger, Westlake, TX 76262
City Westlake, Ohio
Westlake Academy (WA) is an open-enrollment charter school in the United States state of Texas. Westlake operates under the International Baccalaureate (IB) curriculum.
Westlake has three main academic programs: The IB Primary Years Programme (PYP) program lasts from kindergarten to fifth grade, while the IB Middle Years Programme (MYP) program runs from sixth grade to tenth grade. The school has also been certified for the IB Diploma Programme (DP), which began at the start of the 2008-2009 school year with the addition of an eleventh grade and now a twelfth grade. The school's first graduating class was in the 2009-2010 school year.
Westlake Academy inspires college-bound students to achieve their highest individual potential in a nurturing environment that fosters the traits found in the IB Learner Profile.
Westlake Academy is an IB World School whose mission is to provide students with an internationally minded education of the highest quality so they are well-balanced and respectful life-long learners.
The Westlake Academy is a Public university located in Westlake.
The Westlake Academy was founded in 2003.
The current president of Westlake Academy is .
General High School Diploma International Baccalaureate Diploma
Location of Westlake Academy
Brooklyn Latin School Brooklyn, New York
Byram Hills High School Arnold, Maryland
Thomas S Wootton High Rockville, Maryland
Walt Whitman High Rockville, Maryland
Union County Magnet High School Scottsbluff, Nebraska
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CHAPTER XXXIV - IN WHICH IS CONTINUED THE NOVEL OF "THE ILL-ADVISED CURIOSITY"
"It is commonly said that an army looks ill without its general and a castle without its castellan, and I say that a young married woman looks still worse without her husband unless there are very good reasons for it. I find myself so ill at ease without you, and so incapable of enduring this separation, that unless you return quickly I shall have to go for relief to my parents' house, even if I leave yours without a protector; for the one you left me, if indeed he deserved that title, has, I think, more regard to his own pleasure than to what concerns you: as you are possessed of discernment I need say no more to you, nor indeed is it fitting I should say more."
Anselmo received this letter, and from it he gathered that Lothario had already begun his task and that Camilla must have replied to him as he would have wished; and delighted beyond measure at such intelligence he sent word to her not to leave his house on any account, as he would very shortly return. Camilla was astonished at Anselmo's reply, which placed her in greater perplexity than before, for she neither dared to remain in her own house, nor yet to go to her parents'; for in remaining her virtue was imperilled, and in going she was opposing her husband's commands. Finally she decided upon what was the worse course for her, to remain, resolving not to fly from the presence of Lothario, that she might not give food for gossip to her servants; and she now began to regret having written as she had to her husband, fearing he might imagine that Lothario had perceived in her some lightness which had impelled him to lay aside the respect he owed her; but confident of her rectitude she put her trust in God and in her own virtuous intentions, with which she hoped to resist in silence all the solicitations of Lothario, without saying anything to her husband so as not to involve him in any quarrel or trouble; and she even began to consider how to excuse Lothario to Anselmo when he should ask her what it was that induced her to write that letter. With these resolutions, more honourable than judicious or effectual, she remained the next day listening to Lothario, who pressed his suit so strenuously that Camilla's firmness began to waver, and her virtue had enough to do to come to the rescue of her eyes and keep them from showing signs of a certain tender compassion which the tears and appeals of Lothario had awakened in her bosom. Lothario observed all this, and it inflamed him all the more. In short he felt that while Anselmo's absence afforded time and opportunity he must press the siege of the fortress, and so he assailed her self-esteem with praises of her beauty, for there is nothing that more quickly reduces and levels the castle towers of fair women's vanity than vanity itself upon the tongue of flattery. In fact with the utmost assiduity he undermined the rock of her purity with such engines that had Camilla been of brass she must have fallen. He wept, he entreated, he promised, he flattered, he importuned, he pretended with so much feeling and apparent sincerity, that he overthrew the virtuous resolves of Camilla and won the triumph he least expected and most longed for. Camilla yielded, Camilla fell; but what wonder if the friendship of Lothario could not stand firm? A clear proof to us that the passion of love is to be conquered only by flying from it, and that no one should engage in a struggle with an enemy so mighty; for divine strength is needed to overcome his human power. Leonela alone knew of her mistress's weakness, for the two false friends and new lovers were unable to conceal it. Lothario did not care to tell Camilla the object Anselmo had in view, nor that he had afforded him the opportunity of attaining such a result, lest she should undervalue his love and think that it was by chance and without intending it and not of his own accord that he had made love to her.
A few days later Anselmo returned to his house and did not perceive what it had lost, that which he so lightly treated and so highly prized. He went at once to see Lothario, and found him at home; they embraced each other, and Anselmo asked for the tidings of his life or his death.
"The tidings I have to give thee, Anselmo my friend," said Lothario, "are that thou dost possess a wife that is worthy to be the pattern and crown of all good wives. The words that I have addressed to her were borne away on the wind, my promises have been despised, my presents have been refused, such feigned tears as I shed have been turned into open ridicule. In short, as Camilla is the essence of all beauty, so is she the treasure-house where purity dwells, and gentleness and modesty abide with all the virtues that can confer praise, honour, and happiness upon a woman. Take back thy money, my friend; here it is, and I have had no need to touch it, for the chastity of Camilla yields not to things so base as gifts or promises. Be content, Anselmo, and refrain from making further proof; and as thou hast passed dryshod through the sea of those doubts and suspicions that are and may be entertained of women, seek not to plunge again into the deep ocean of new embarrassments, or with another pilot make trial of the goodness and strength of the bark that Heaven has granted thee for thy passage across the sea of this world; but reckon thyself now safe in port, moor thyself with the anchor of sound reflection, and rest in peace until thou art called upon to pay that debt which no nobility on earth can escape paying."
Anselmo was completely satisfied by the words of Lothario, and believed them as fully as if they had been spoken by an oracle; nevertheless he begged of him not to relinquish the undertaking, were it but for the sake of curiosity and amusement; though thenceforward he need not make use of the same earnest endeavours as before; all he wished him to do was to write some verses to her, praising her under the name of Chloris, for he himself would give her to understand that he was in love with a lady to whom he had given that name to enable him to sing her praises with the decorum due to her modesty; and if Lothario were unwilling to take the trouble of writing the verses he would compose them himself.
"That will not be necessary," said Lothario, "for the muses are not such enemies of mine but that they visit me now and then in the course of the year. Do thou tell Camilla what thou hast proposed about a pretended amour of mine; as for the verses will make them, and if not as good as the subject deserves, they shall be at least the best I can produce." An agreement to this effect was made between the friends, the ill-advised one and the treacherous, and Anselmo returning to his house asked Camilla the question she already wondered he had not asked before- what it was that had caused her to write the letter she had sent him. Camilla replied that it had seemed to her that Lothario looked at her somewhat more freely than when he had been at home; but that now she was undeceived and believed it to have been only her own imagination, for Lothario now avoided seeing her, or being alone with her. Anselmo told her she might be quite easy on the score of that suspicion, for he knew that Lothario was in love with a damsel of rank in the city whom he celebrated under the name of Chloris, and that even if he were not, his fidelity and their great friendship left no room for fear. Had not Camilla, however, been informed beforehand by Lothario that this love for Chloris was a pretence, and that he himself had told Anselmo of it in order to be able sometimes to give utterance to the praises of Camilla herself, no doubt she would have fallen into the despairing toils of jealousy; but being forewarned she received the startling news without uneasiness.
The next day as the three were at table Anselmo asked Lothario to recite something of what he had composed for his mistress Chloris; for as Camilla did not know her, he might safely say what he liked.
"Even did she know her," returned Lothario, "I would hide nothing, for when a lover praises his lady's beauty, and charges her with cruelty, he casts no imputation upon her fair name; at any rate, all I can say is that yesterday I made a sonnet on the ingratitude of this Chloris, which goes thus:
At midnight, in the silence, when the eyes
Of happier mortals balmy slumbers close,
The weary tale of my unnumbered woes
To Chloris and to Heaven is wont to rise.
And when the light of day returning dyes
The portals of the east with tints of rose,
With undiminished force my sorrow flows
In broken accents and in burning sighs.
And when the sun ascends his star-girt throne,
And on the earth pours down his midday beams,
Noon but renews my wailing and my tears;
And with the night again goes up my moan.
Yet ever in my agony it seems
To me that neither Heaven nor Chloris hears."
The sonnet pleased Camilla, and still more Anselmo, for he praised it and said the lady was excessively cruel who made no return for sincerity so manifest. On which Camilla said, "Then all that love-smitten poets say is true?"
"As poets they do not tell the truth," replied Lothario; "but as lovers they are not more defective in expression than they are truthful."
"There is no doubt of that," observed Anselmo, anxious to support and uphold Lothario's ideas with Camilla, who was as regardless of his design as she was deep in love with Lothario; and so taking delight in anything that was his, and knowing that his thoughts and writings had her for their object, and that she herself was the real Chloris, she asked him to repeat some other sonnet or verses if he recollected any.
"I do," replied Lothario, "but I do not think it as good as the first one, or, more correctly speaking, less bad; but you can easily judge, for it is this.
I know that I am doomed; death is to me
As certain as that thou, ungrateful fair,
Dead at thy feet shouldst see me lying, ere
My heart repented of its love for thee.
If buried in oblivion I should be,
Bereft of life, fame, favour, even there
It would be found that I thy image bear
Deep graven in my breast for all to see.
This like some holy relic do I prize
To save me from the fate my truth entails,
Truth that to thy hard heart its vigour owes.
Alas for him that under lowering skies,
In peril o'er a trackless ocean sails,
Where neither friendly port nor pole-star shows."
Anselmo praised this second sonnet too, as he had praised the first; and so he went on adding link after link to the chain with which he was binding himself and making his dishonour secure; for when Lothario was doing most to dishonour him he told him he was most honoured; and thus each step that Camilla descended towards the depths of her abasement, she mounted, in his opinion, towards the summit of virtue and fair fame.
It so happened that finding herself on one occasion alone with her maid, Camilla said to her, "I am ashamed to think, my dear Leonela, how lightly I have valued myself that I did not compel Lothario to purchase by at least some expenditure of time that full possession of me that I so quickly yielded him of my own free will. I fear that he will think ill of my pliancy or lightness, not considering the irresistible influence he brought to bear upon me."
"Let not that trouble you, my lady," said Leonela, "for it does not take away the value of the thing given or make it the less precious to give it quickly if it be really valuable and worthy of being prized; nay, they are wont to say that he who gives quickly gives twice."
"They say also," said Camilla, "that what costs little is valued less."
"That saying does not hold good in your case," replied Leonela, "for love, as I have heard say, sometimes flies and sometimes walks; with this one it runs, with that it moves slowly; some it cools, others it burns; some it wounds, others it slays; it begins the course of its desires, and at the same moment completes and ends it; in the morning it will lay siege to a fortress and by night will have taken it, for there is no power that can resist it; so what are you in dread of, what do you fear, when the same must have befallen Lothario, love having chosen the absence of my lord as the instrument for subduing you? and it was absolutely necessary to complete then what love had resolved upon, without affording the time to let Anselmo return and by his presence compel the work to be left unfinished; for love has no better agent for carrying out his designs than opportunity; and of opportunity he avails himself in all his feats, especially at the outset. All this I know well myself, more by experience than by hearsay, and some day, senora, I will enlighten you on the subject, for I am of your flesh and blood too. Moreover, lady Camilla, you did not surrender yourself or yield so quickly but that first you saw Lothario's whole soul in his eyes, in his sighs, in his words, his promises and his gifts, and by it and his good qualities perceived how worthy he was of your love. This, then, being the case, let not these scrupulous and prudish ideas trouble your imagination, but be assured that Lothario prizes you as you do him, and rest content and satisfied that as you are caught in the noose of love it is one of worth and merit that has taken you, and one that has not only the four S's that they say true lovers ought to have, but a complete alphabet; only listen to me and you will see how I can repeat it by rote. He is to my eyes and thinking, Amiable, Brave, Courteous, Distinguished, Elegant, Fond, Gay, Honourable, Illustrious, Loyal, Manly, Noble, Open, Polite, Quickwitted, Rich, and the S's according to the saying, and then Tender, Veracious: X does not suit him, for it is a rough letter; Y has been given already; and Z Zealous for your honour."
Camilla laughed at her maid's alphabet, and perceived her to be more experienced in love affairs than she said, which she admitted, confessing to Camilla that she had love passages with a young man of good birth of the same city. Camilla was uneasy at this, dreading lest it might prove the means of endangering her honour, and asked whether her intrigue had gone beyond words, and she with little shame and much effrontery said it had; for certain it is that ladies' imprudences make servants shameless, who, when they see their mistresses make a false step, think nothing of going astray themselves, or of its being known. All that Camilla could do was to entreat Leonela to say nothing about her doings to him whom she called her lover, and to conduct her own affairs secretly lest they should come to the knowledge of Anselmo or of Lothario. Leonela said she would, but kept her word in such a way that she confirmed Camilla's apprehension of losing her reputation through her means; for this abandoned and bold Leonela, as soon as she perceived that her mistress's demeanour was not what it was wont to be, had the audacity to introduce her lover into the house, confident that even if her mistress saw him she would not dare to expose him; for the sins of mistresses entail this mischief among others; they make themselves the slaves of their own servants, and are obliged to hide their laxities and depravities; as was the case with Camilla, who though she perceived, not once but many times, that Leonela was with her lover in some room of the house, not only did not dare to chide her, but afforded her opportunities for concealing him and removed all difficulties, lest he should be seen by her husband. She was unable, however, to prevent him from being seen on one occasion, as he sallied forth at daybreak, by Lothario, who, not knowing who he was, at first took him for a spectre; but, as soon as he saw him hasten away, muffling his face with his cloak and concealing himself carefully and cautiously, he rejected this foolish idea, and adopted another, which would have been the ruin of all had not Camilla found a remedy. It did not occur to Lothario that this man he had seen issuing at such an untimely hour from Anselmo's house could have entered it on Leonela's account, nor did he even remember there was such a person as Leonela; all he thought was that as Camilla had been light and yielding with him, so she had been with another; for this further penalty the erring woman's sin brings with it, that her honour is distrusted even by him to whose overtures and persuasions she has yielded; and he believes her to have surrendered more easily to others, and gives implicit credence to every suspicion that comes into his mind. All Lothario's good sense seems to have failed him at this juncture; all his prudent maxims escaped his memory; for without once reflecting rationally, and without more ado, in his impatience and in the blindness of the jealous rage that gnawed his heart, and dying to revenge himself upon Camilla, who had done him no wrong, before Anselmo had risen he hastened to him and said to him, "Know, Anselmo, that for several days past I have been struggling with myself, striving to withhold from thee what it is no longer possible or right that I should conceal from thee. Know that Camilla's fortress has surrendered and is ready to submit to my will; and if I have been slow to reveal this fact to thee, it was in order to see if it were some light caprice of hers, or if she sought to try me and ascertain if the love I began to make to her with thy permission was made with a serious intention. I thought, too, that she, if she were what she ought to be, and what we both believed her, would have ere this given thee information of my addresses; but seeing that she delays, I believe the truth of the promise she has given me that the next time thou art absent from the house she will grant me an interview in the closet where thy jewels are kept (and it was true that Camilla used to meet him there); but I do not wish thee to rush precipitately to take vengeance, for the sin is as yet only committed in intention, and Camilla's may change perhaps between this and the appointed time, and repentance spring up in its place. As hitherto thou hast always followed my advice wholly or in part, follow and observe this that I will give thee now, so that, without mistake, and with mature deliberation, thou mayest satisfy thyself as to what may seem the best course; pretend to absent thyself for two or three days as thou hast been wont to do on other occasions, and contrive to hide thyself in the closet; for the tapestries and other things there afford great facilities for thy concealment, and then thou wilt see with thine own eyes and I with mine what Camilla's purpose may be. And if it be a guilty one, which may be feared rather than expected, with silence, prudence, and discretion thou canst thyself become the instrument of punishment for the wrong done thee."
Anselmo was amazed, overwhelmed, and astounded at the words of Lothario, which came upon him at a time when he least expected to hear them, for he now looked upon Camilla as having triumphed over the pretended attacks of Lothario, and was beginning to enjoy the glory of her victory. He remained silent for a considerable time, looking on the ground with fixed gaze, and at length said, "Thou hast behaved, Lothario, as I expected of thy friendship: I will follow thy advice in everything; do as thou wilt, and keep this secret as thou seest it should be kept in circumstances so unlooked for."
Lothario gave him his word, but after leaving him he repented altogether of what he had said to him, perceiving how foolishly he had acted, as he might have revenged himself upon Camilla in some less cruel and degrading way. He cursed his want of sense, condemned his hasty resolution, and knew not what course to take to undo the mischief or find some ready escape from it. At last he decided upon revealing all to Camilla, and, as there was no want of opportunity for doing so, he found her alone the same day; but she, as soon as she had the chance of speaking to him, said, "Lothario my friend, I must tell thee I have a sorrow in my heart which fills it so that it seems ready to burst; and it will be a wonder if it does not; for the audacity of Leonela has now reached such a pitch that every night she conceals a gallant of hers in this house and remains with him till morning, at the expense of my reputation; inasmuch as it is open to anyone to question it who may see him quitting my house at such unseasonable hours; but what distresses me is that I cannot punish or chide her, for her privity to our intrigue bridles my mouth and keeps me silent about hers, while I am dreading that some catastrophe will come of it."
As Camilla said this Lothario at first imagined it was some device to delude him into the idea that the man he had seen going out was Leonela's lover and not hers; but when he saw how she wept and suffered, and begged him to help her, he became convinced of the truth, and the conviction completed his confusion and remorse; however, he told Camilla not to distress herself, as he would take measures to put a stop to the insolence of Leonela. At the same time he told her what, driven by the fierce rage of jealousy, he had said to Anselmo, and how he had arranged to hide himself in the closet that he might there see plainly how little she preserved her fidelity to him; and he entreated her pardon for this madness, and her advice as to how to repair it, and escape safely from the intricate labyrinth in which his imprudence had involved him. Camilla was struck with alarm at hearing what Lothario said, and with much anger, and great good sense, she reproved him and rebuked his base design and the foolish and mischievous resolution he had made; but as woman has by nature a nimbler wit than man for good and for evil, though it is apt to fail when she sets herself deliberately to reason, Camilla on the spur of the moment thought of a way to remedy what was to all appearance irremediable, and told Lothario to contrive that the next day Anselmo should conceal himself in the place he mentioned, for she hoped from his concealment to obtain the means of their enjoying themselves for the future without any apprehension; and without revealing her purpose to him entirely she charged him to be careful, as soon as Anselmo was concealed, to come to her when Leonela should call him, and to all she said to him to answer as he would have answered had he not known that Anselmo was listening. Lothario pressed her to explain her intention fully, so that he might with more certainty and precaution take care to do what he saw to be needful.
"I tell you," said Camilla, "there is nothing to take care of except to answer me what I shall ask you;" for she did not wish to explain to him beforehand what she meant to do, fearing lest he should be unwilling to follow out an idea which seemed to her such a good one, and should try or devise some other less practicable plan.
Lothario then retired, and the next day Anselmo, under pretence of going to his friend's country house, took his departure, and then returned to conceal himself, which he was able to do easily, as Camilla and Leonela took care to give him the opportunity; and so he placed himself in hiding in the state of agitation that it may be imagined he would feel who expected to see the vitals of his honour laid bare before his eyes, and found himself on the point of losing the supreme blessing he thought he possessed in his beloved Camilla. Having made sure of Anselmo's being in his hiding-place, Camilla and Leonela entered the closet, and the instant she set foot within it Camilla said, with a deep sigh, "Ah! dear Leonela, would it not be better, before I do what I am unwilling you should know lest you should seek to prevent it, that you should take Anselmo's dagger that I have asked of you and with it pierce this vile heart of mine? But no; there is no reason why I should suffer the punishment of another's fault. I will first know what it is that the bold licentious eyes of Lothario have seen in me that could have encouraged him to reveal to me a design so base as that which he has disclosed regardless of his friend and of my honour. Go to the window, Leonela, and call him, for no doubt he is in the street waiting to carry out his vile project; but mine, cruel it may be, but honourable, shall be carried out first."
"Ah, senora," said the crafty Leonela, who knew her part, "what is it you want to do with this dagger? Can it be that you mean to take your own life, or Lothario's? for whichever you mean to do, it will lead to the loss of your reputation and good name. It is better to dissemble your wrong and not give this wicked man the chance of entering the house now and finding us alone; consider, senora, we are weak women and he is a man, and determined, and as he comes with such a base purpose, blind and urged by passion, perhaps before you can put yours into execution he may do what will be worse for you than taking your life. Ill betide my master, Anselmo, for giving such authority in his house to this shameless fellow! And supposing you kill him, senora, as I suspect you mean to do, what shall we do with him when he is dead?"
"What, my friend?" replied Camilla, "we shall leave him for Anselmo to bury him; for in reason it will be to him a light labour to hide his own infamy under ground. Summon him, make haste, for all the time I delay in taking vengeance for my wrong seems to me an offence against the loyalty I owe my husband."
Anselmo was listening to all this, and every word that Camilla uttered made him change his mind; but when he heard that it was resolved to kill Lothario his first impulse was to come out and show himself to avert such a disaster; but in his anxiety to see the issue of a resolution so bold and virtuous he restrained himself, intending to come forth in time to prevent the deed. At this moment Camilla, throwing herself upon a bed that was close by, swooned away, and Leonela began to weep bitterly, exclaiming, "Woe is me! that I should be fated to have dying here in my arms the flower of virtue upon earth, the crown of true wives, the pattern of chastity!" with more to the same effect, so that anyone who heard her would have taken her for the most tender-hearted and faithful handmaid in the world, and her mistress for another persecuted Penelope.
Camilla was not long in recovering from her fainting fit and on coming to herself she said, "Why do you not go, Leonela, to call hither that friend, the falsest to his friend the sun ever shone upon or night concealed? Away, run, haste, speed! lest the fire of my wrath burn itself out with delay, and the righteous vengeance that I hope for melt away in menaces and maledictions."
"I am just going to call him, senora," said Leonela; "but you must first give me that dagger, lest while I am gone you should by means of it give cause to all who love you to weep all their lives."
"Go in peace, dear Leonela, I will not do so," said Camilla, "for rash and foolish as I may be, to your mind, in defending my honour, I am not going to be so much so as that Lucretia who they say killed herself without having done anything wrong, and without having first killed him on whom the guilt of her misfortune lay. I shall die, if I am to die; but it must be after full vengeance upon him who has brought me here to weep over audacity that no fault of mine gave birth to."
Leonela required much pressing before she would go to summon Lothario, but at last she went, and while awaiting her return Camilla continued, as if speaking to herself, "Good God! would it not have been more prudent to have repulsed Lothario, as I have done many a time before, than to allow him, as I am now doing, to think me unchaste and vile, even for the short time I must wait until I undeceive him? No doubt it would have been better; but I should not be avenged, nor the honour of my husband vindicated, should he find so clear and easy an escape from the strait into which his depravity has led him. Let the traitor pay with his life for the temerity of his wanton wishes, and let the world know (if haply it shall ever come to know) that Camilla not only preserved her allegiance to her husband, but avenged him of the man who dared to wrong him. Still, I think it might be better to disclose this to Anselmo. But then I have called his attention to it in the letter I wrote to him in the country, and, if he did nothing to prevent the mischief I there pointed out to him, I suppose it was that from pure goodness of heart and trustfulness he would not and could not believe that any thought against his honour could harbour in the breast of so stanch a friend; nor indeed did I myself believe it for many days, nor should I have ever believed it if his insolence had not gone so far as to make it manifest by open presents, lavish promises, and ceaseless tears. But why do I argue thus? Does a bold determination stand in need of arguments? Surely not. Then traitors avaunt! Vengeance to my aid! Let the false one come, approach, advance, die, yield up his life, and then befall what may. Pure I came to him whom Heaven bestowed upon me, pure I shall leave him; and at the worst bathed in my own chaste blood and in the foul blood of the falsest friend that friendship ever saw in the world;" and as she uttered these words she paced the room holding the unsheathed dagger, with such irregular and disordered steps, and such gestures that one would have supposed her to have lost her senses, and taken her for some violent desperado instead of a delicate woman.
Anselmo, hidden behind some tapestries where he had concealed himself, beheld and was amazed at all, and already felt that what he had seen and heard was a sufficient answer to even greater suspicions; and he would have been now well pleased if the proof afforded by Lothario's coming were dispensed with, as he feared some sudden mishap; but as he was on the point of showing himself and coming forth to embrace and undeceive his wife he paused as he saw Leonela returning, leading Lothario. Camilla when she saw him, drawing a long line in front of her on the floor with the dagger, said to him, "Lothario, pay attention to what I say to thee: if by any chance thou darest to cross this line thou seest, or even approach it, the instant I see thee attempt it that same instant will I pierce my bosom with this dagger that I hold in my hand; and before thou answerest me a word desire thee to listen to a few from me, and afterwards thou shalt reply as may please thee. First, I desire thee to tell me, Lothario, if thou knowest my husband Anselmo, and in what light thou regardest him; and secondly I desire to know if thou knowest me too. Answer me this, without embarrassment or reflecting deeply what thou wilt answer, for they are no riddles I put to thee."
Lothario was not so dull but that from the first moment when Camilla directed him to make Anselmo hide himself he understood what she intended to do, and therefore he fell in with her idea so readily and promptly that between them they made the imposture look more true than truth; so he answered her thus: "I did not think, fair Camilla, that thou wert calling me to ask questions so remote from the object with which I come; but if it is to defer the promised reward thou art doing so, thou mightst have put it off still longer, for the longing for happiness gives the more distress the nearer comes the hope of gaining it; but lest thou shouldst say that I do not answer thy questions, I say that I know thy husband Anselmo, and that we have known each other from our earliest years; I will not speak of what thou too knowest, of our friendship, that I may not compel myself to testify against the wrong that love, the mighty excuse for greater errors, makes me inflict upon him. Thee I know and hold in the same estimation as he does, for were it not so I had not for a lesser prize acted in opposition to what I owe to my station and the holy laws of true friendship, now broken and violated by me through that powerful enemy, love."
"If thou dost confess that," returned Camilla, "mortal enemy of all that rightly deserves to be loved, with what face dost thou dare to come before one whom thou knowest to be the mirror wherein he is reflected on whom thou shouldst look to see how unworthily thou him? But, woe is me, I now comprehend what has made thee give so little heed to what thou owest to thyself; it must have been some freedom of mine, for I will not call it immodesty, as it did not proceed from any deliberate intention, but from some heedlessness such as women are guilty of through inadvertence when they think they have no occasion for reserve. But tell me, traitor, when did I by word or sign give a reply to thy prayers that could awaken in thee a shadow of hope of attaining thy base wishes? When were not thy professions of love sternly and scornfully rejected and rebuked? When were thy frequent pledges and still more frequent gifts believed or accepted? But as I am persuaded that no one can long persevere in the attempt to win love unsustained by some hope, I am willing to attribute to myself the blame of thy assurance, for no doubt some thoughtlessness of mine has all this time fostered thy hopes; and therefore will I punish myself and inflict upon myself the penalty thy guilt deserves. And that thou mayest see that being so relentless to myself I cannot possibly be otherwise to thee, I have summoned thee to be a witness of the sacrifice I mean to offer to the injured honour of my honoured husband, wronged by thee with all the assiduity thou wert capable of, and by me too through want of caution in avoiding every occasion, if I have given any, of encouraging and sanctioning thy base designs. Once more I say the suspicion in my mind that some imprudence of mine has engendered these lawless thoughts in thee, is what causes me most distress and what I desire most to punish with my own hands, for were any other instrument of punishment employed my error might become perhaps more widely known; but before I do so, in my death I mean to inflict death, and take with me one that will fully satisfy my longing for the revenge I hope for and have; for I shall see, wheresoever it may be that I go, the penalty awarded by inflexible, unswerving justice on him who has placed me in a position so desperate."
As she uttered these words, with incredible energy and swiftness she flew upon Lothario with the naked dagger, so manifestly bent on burying it in his breast that he was almost uncertain whether these demonstrations were real or feigned, for he was obliged to have recourse to all his skill and strength to prevent her from striking him; and with such reality did she act this strange farce and mystification that, to give it a colour of truth, she determined to stain it with her own blood; for perceiving, or pretending, that she could not wound Lothario, she said, "Fate, it seems, will not grant my just desire complete satisfaction, but it will not be able to keep me from satisfying it partially at least;" and making an effort to free the hand with the dagger which Lothario held in his grasp, she released it, and directing the point to a place where it could not inflict a deep wound, she plunged it into her left side high up close to the shoulder, and then allowed herself to fall to the ground as if in a faint.
Leonela and Lothario stood amazed and astounded at the catastrophe, and seeing Camilla stretched on the ground and bathed in her blood they were still uncertain as to the true nature of the act. Lothario, terrified and breathless, ran in haste to pluck out the dagger; but when he saw how slight the wound was he was relieved of his fears and once more admired the subtlety, coolness, and ready wit of the fair Camilla; and the better to support the part he had to play he began to utter profuse and doleful lamentations over her body as if she were dead, invoking maledictions not only on himself but also on him who had been the means of placing him in such a position: and knowing that his friend Anselmo heard him he spoke in such a way as to make a listener feel much more pity for him than for Camilla, even though he supposed her dead. Leonela took her up in her arms and laid her on the bed, entreating Lothario to go in quest of some one to attend to her wound in secret, and at the same time asking his advice and opinion as to what they should say to Anselmo about his lady's wound if he should chance to return before it was healed. He replied they might say what they liked, for he was not in a state to give advice that would be of any use; all he could tell her was to try and stanch the blood, as he was going where he should never more be seen; and with every appearance of deep grief and sorrow he left the house; but when he found himself alone, and where there was nobody to see him, he crossed himself unceasingly, lost in wonder at the adroitness of Camilla and the consistent acting of Leonela. He reflected how convinced Anselmo would be that he had a second Portia for a wife, and he looked forward anxiously to meeting him in order to rejoice together over falsehood and truth the most craftily veiled that could be imagined.
Leonela, as he told her, stanched her lady's blood, which was no more than sufficed to support her deception; and washing the wound with a little wine she bound it up to the best of her skill, talking all the time she was tending her in a strain that, even if nothing else had been said before, would have been enough to assure Anselmo that he had in Camilla a model of purity. To Leonela's words Camilla added her own, calling herself cowardly and wanting in spirit, since she had not enough at the time she had most need of it to rid herself of the life she so much loathed. She asked her attendant's advice as to whether or not she ought to inform her beloved husband of all that had happened, but the other bade her say nothing about it, as she would lay upon him the obligation of taking vengeance on Lothario, which he could not do but at great risk to himself; and it was the duty of a true wife not to give her husband provocation to quarrel, but, on the contrary, to remove it as far as possible from him.
Camilla replied that she believed she was right and that she would follow her advice, but at any rate it would be well to consider how she was to explain the wound to Anselmo, for he could not help seeing it; to which Leonela answered that she did not know how to tell a lie even in jest.
"How then can I know, my dear?" said Camilla, "for I should not dare to forge or keep up a falsehood if my life depended on it. If we can think of no escape from this difficulty, it will be better to tell him the plain truth than that he should find us out in an untrue story."
"Be not uneasy, senora," said Leonela; "between this and to-morrow I will think of what we must say to him, and perhaps the wound being where it is it can be hidden from his sight, and Heaven will be pleased to aid us in a purpose so good and honourable. Compose yourself, senora, and endeavour to calm your excitement lest my lord find you agitated; and leave the rest to my care and God's, who always supports good intentions."
Anselmo had with the deepest attention listened to and seen played out the tragedy of the death of his honour, which the performers acted with such wonderfully effective truth that it seemed as if they had become the realities of the parts they played. He longed for night and an opportunity of escaping from the house to go and see his good friend Lothario, and with him give vent to his joy over the precious pearl he had gained in having established his wife's purity. Both mistress and maid took care to give him time and opportunity to get away, and taking advantage of it he made his escape, and at once went in quest of Lothario, and it would be impossible to describe how he embraced him when he found him, and the things he said to him in the joy of his heart, and the praises he bestowed upon Camilla; all which Lothario listened to without being able to show any pleasure, for he could not forget how deceived his friend was, and how dishonourably he had wronged him; and though Anselmo could see that Lothario was not glad, still he imagined it was only because he had left Camilla wounded and had been himself the cause of it; and so among other things he told him not to be distressed about Camilla's accident, for, as they had agreed to hide it from him, the wound was evidently trifling; and that being so, he had no cause for fear, but should henceforward be of good cheer and rejoice with him, seeing that by his means and adroitness he found himself raised to the greatest height of happiness that he could have ventured to hope for, and desired no better pastime than making verses in praise of Camilla that would preserve her name for all time to come. Lothario commended his purpose, and promised on his own part to aid him in raising a monument so glorious.
And so Anselmo was left the most charmingly hoodwinked man there could be in the world. He himself, persuaded he was conducting the instrument of his glory, led home by the hand him who had been the utter destruction of his good name; whom Camilla received with averted countenance, though with smiles in her heart. The deception was carried on for some time, until at the end of a few months Fortune turned her wheel and the guilt which had been until then so skilfully concealed was published abroad, and Anselmo paid with his life the penalty of his ill-advised curiosity.


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Why was Ackbar given command of the Fleet?
According to the whole host of Star Wars books out there Ackbar was a one-time slave of Grand Moff Tarkin, which is where he learned (or at least honed) his military strategy and theory. However, the Rebel Alliance had many others who had much more training.
People like General Crix Madine and others defected to the Rebels over the years, how come one of them wasn't put in charge of such an important task of attacking the not-yet-completed Death Star? Surely someone from the Imperial Navy more qualified and schooled in martial theory and imperial tactics than Ackbar had defected at some point.
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As a sub-note if he only got his freedom when Tarkin died during the first Death Star's explosion how did he become an Admiral, and chief of the fleet in such a short time? – boxed-dinners Jan 26 '12 at 15:27
He used the Force? – Xantec Jan 26 '12 at 15:39
@Xantec Really. Please tell me you were joking. You didn't really think Admiral Ackbar was Force-sensitive, did you? Poor uneducated ... er ... dude. :) – Peter Cassetta Jan 26 '12 at 16:10
@PeterDC Yes, I was joking. I am sure had he been Force-sensitive he would have been able to tell it was a trap much sooner. – Xantec Jan 26 '12 at 16:11
According to his page on Wookieepedia, Admiral Ackbar was a decorated officer on his homeworld of Mon Calamari, leading them in many battles and later leading a resistance movement against the Empire.
Ackbar was selected as Coral City's representative on the Calamarian Council after finishing school, and became a proponent of Mon Calamari space exploration during the Clone Wars.
Ackbar was one of the leaders that participated in the Second Battle of Mon Calamari. During that time, he held the rank of Captain in charge of the Mon Calamari Guard and was the chief military adviser to King Yos Kolina and then to the young and inexperienced Prince Lee-Char.
In 19 BBY, Ackbar was chosen as the Calamarian Council's leader.[4] When Imperial warships arrived to exert Emperor Palpatine's will over Mon Calamari, Ackbar tried in vain to negotiate; the Mon Calamari and Quarren were forced into slavery and the orbital shipyards were nationalized. Ackbar quickly became a leader of the resistance movement and succeeded in temporarily freeing his homeworld.
It seems that he had much experience rallying troops and fighting against oppressive, overwhelming opposition, as well as inside knowledge of the Empire from his time as an Imperial slave.
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He was actually a high-level military commander before his capture. This was actually why he was Tarkin's slave. From Wookiepedia:
The Imperial officer commanding the operation was so impressed by the Mon Calamari resistance that he decided to take Ackbar as a slave and presented him as a gift to Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin. Ackbar spent his enslavement learning from Tarkin and his staff, acquiring a deep knowledge of Imperial doctrine, as well as knowledge of secret projects like the first Death Star. Tarkin held a great deal of respect for Ackbar.
The reason he was able to learn so much and be able to apply it against them later was probably because he was already an accomplished military leader and strategist.
And regarding your other question, he was freed a year before Yavin, in an operation specifically designed and carried out to do so. His knowledge of the Death Star and where the plans were hidden was one of the big reasons they were able to defeat it.
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Was it 19 years before Endor? I don't know much about book sources, but the X-Wing game would have him rescued shortly before the Battle of Yavin (so, about 4 years before Endor) – HorusKol Jan 27 '12 at 1:05
@HorusKol You're right, I must have completely misread the article; I thought it was odd too... Anyway, updated now. – Kevin♦ Jan 27 '12 at 3:31
Leaving aside Ackbar's qualifications1, the position of commanding the fleet in ROTJ didn't seem to be too demanding - basically:
Sit there like ducks, draw the Imperial fire and attention while the away team Endor strike force disables the shield; then
Sit there like ducks, draw the Imperial fire and attention while the small craft under Lando hit the weak point on the Death Star.
If you notice, the main damage done in a fleet engagement by the rebels was done by small craft as well - the A-Wing that smashed through Star Destroyer's bridge.
[1] From Wikia:
Ackbar was one of the leaders that participated in the Second Battle of Mon Calamari. During that time, he held the rank of Captain in charge of the Mon Calamari Guard and was the chief military adviser to King Yos Kolina and then to the young and inexperienced Prince Lee-Char
The Rebel fleet did not-insignificant damage of its own. – Jeff Jan 26 '12 at 16:38
The entire attack was Ackbar's strategy - and this doesn't really answer the question of "how does a slave become a fleet admiral" – HorusKol Jan 27 '12 at 1:04
@HorusKol - did you read the second half of the answer? He wasn't a "slave" - he was a high ranking captain and obviously a gifted officer based on his position on Mon Calamari. Also, I'm not certain re: entire attack being Ackbar's strategy - is there an in-universe confirmation? – DVK-on-Ahch-To Jan 27 '12 at 1:29
@DVk - no, I didn't I'm afraid - and I should have. But I still don't get with the disparaging of the ROTJ strategy... As for it being Ackbar's strategy - I'm assuming that he was the supreme fleet commander at that point, given this was an all-out leave-no-ship-out assault, and even if he had planners, he would have the final say on the strategy – HorusKol Jan 27 '12 at 1:57
@HorusKol - the plan didn't exactly require the deepest strategic thinking. And the most critical part that had to be done on the fly (closing in with Imperial ships once the DS2 was with the shield) was done on Lando's advice – DVK-on-Ahch-To Jan 27 '12 at 2:28
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