text:
Wiktionary:Votes/sy-2006-09/User:Alhen

User:Alhen

 * I hereby nominate User:Alhen as a local English Wiktionary Administrator. His es.wikt: / en.wikt: project coordination efforts have been invaluable.  On several occasions, I've asked him to edit protected pages, or delete cruft laying about, only to discover that he somehow was never nominated as a sysop here.  Additionally, for his i18n/L10n activities regarding Lupin popups (see WT:PREFS,) he needs to be able to edit some protected pages.  --Connel MacKenzie 18:14, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Vote ends: 23:59:59 UTC, October 9th, 2006
 * Vote started by: Connel MacKenzie 18:14, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Acceptance:
 * Thanks to Connel for the honour. I gladly accept. Alhen 18:35, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support Connel MacKenzie 18:17, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support TheDaveRoss 18:29, 25 September 2006 (UTC) - Alhen is very helpful and active, and the more multilingual sysops the better.
 * 3) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support Dvortygirl 04:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC) - I'd be delighted to have Alhen aboard.  He's already a sysop on es: Wikipedia and the Wikcionario, and I'm quite certain he'll do good things here, too.  (On a personal note, he's also to blame for my advancement to es-2 this year.)
 * 4) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support Versageek 04:31, 26 September 2006 (UTC) --Versageek 04:31, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support Kipmaster 08:21, 26 September 2006 (UTC) Kipmaster 08:21, 26 September 2006 (UTC) Kipmaster 08:21, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] —Stephen 00:54, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 7) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] \Mike 23:51, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 8) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support Dijan 06:47, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 9) –Pill δ 17:40, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 10) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support --Eng in ear 16:49, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 11) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support - though having to copy paste the support image was too hard.  A well deserved mop -- Tawker 06:17, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 12) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support for the tangential benefit of project coordination. DAVilla 14:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support Dijan 06:47, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) –Pill δ 17:40, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support --Eng in ear 16:49, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support - though having to copy paste the support image was too hard.  A well deserved mop -- Tawker 06:17, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support for the tangential benefit of project coordination. DAVilla 14:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support for the tangential benefit of project coordination. DAVilla 14:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol abstain vote.svg|20px]] Abstain Jusjih 15:55, 1 October 2006 (UTC) A little more use of edit summaries and experience here would be better.--Jusjih 15:55, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) [[Image:Symbol abstain vote.svg|20px]] Abstain EncycloPetey 23:22, 1 October 2006 (UTC) --EncycloPetey 23:22, 1 October 2006 (UTC) Recommending someone from the es:wikt project isn't high praise. Their site doesn't even have the words muy or mucho yet.
 * Just a comment, here. First, we're voting on the person, not es.wikt.  In defense of the project, yes, es: is a smaller Wiktionary, but they're growing pretty rapidly considering what a small community they have.  As for the lack of basic words, there are a lot of them and they're some of the hardest to define (look at all the senses of up or hand).  Many of ours are not exactly in great shape, either, and I imagine we were missing a lot of words in our 10,000 days, too. --Dvortygirl 23:54, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Just a comment, here. First, we're voting on the person, not es.wikt.  In defense of the project, yes, es: is a smaller Wiktionary, but they're growing pretty rapidly considering what a small community they have.  As for the lack of basic words, there are a lot of them and they're some of the hardest to define (look at all the senses of up or hand).  Many of ours are not exactly in great shape, either, and I imagine we were missing a lot of words in our 10,000 days, too. --Dvortygirl 23:54, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Decision

 * Approved Dvortygirl 05:24, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

title: Wiktionary:Votes/sy-2006-09/User:Alhen


text:
urethral

Etymology
..

Adjective

 * 1)  Pertaining to the urethra.

Translations

 * Armenian: միզուկային
 * Czech: uretrální
 * Dutch: urethraal
 * Esperanto:
 * Finnish:
 * French:
 * Ido: uretrala
 * Spanish: uretral
 * Tagalog: ng ihian

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

title: urethral


text: Talk:öde

title: Talk:öde


text: crooners

title: crooners


text: dudettes

title: dudettes


text: Category:Pharmaceutical drugs

title: Category:Pharmaceutical drugs


text: aspirins

title: aspirins


text: 孹

title: 孹


text: dust bin

title: dust bin


text: dustbins

title: dustbins


text: dust bins

title: dust bins


text: ecstasies

title: ecstasies


title: me5


text:
laogh

Etymology
From. Cognates include 🇨🇬 and 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) calf, fawn, kid young of a cow or deer
 * 2) friend

title: laogh


text: scags

title: scags


text:
calceus

Etymology
From, substantive use of +.

Noun

 * 1) A kind of low leather Roman boot or hightop shoe.
 * 2) * 2022, Jan Radicke, Roman Women's Dress..., p. 99:
 * In comparison with the soccus and the solea, the calceus was a more formal footwear. We do not not usually find it in scenes of private life... We never find it with banquets, where the soccus and the solea prevail. It was probably only put on when leaving the house or, in the case of men, when receiving guests in a formal manner.
 * In comparison with the soccus and the solea, the calceus was a more formal footwear. We do not not usually find it in scenes of private life... We never find it with banquets, where the soccus and the solea prevail. It was probably only put on when leaving the house or, in the case of men, when receiving guests in a formal manner.

Etymology
A substantive use of.

Noun

 * 1)  calceus,
 * 2) * 1922,, , Book 11, Cap. 3, §137:
 * "la"

- ...nam et toga et calceus et capillus tam nimia cura quam negligentia sunt reprehendenda...

 * 1)  footwear, shoe, boot

Descendants

 * Borrowings:
 * Borrowings:
 * Borrowings:
 * Borrowings:
 * Borrowings:

title: calceus


text:
céu

Etymology
, from, from , from , from.

Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬 and 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) sky
 * 2) heaven
 * 1) heaven
 * 1) heaven
 * 1) heaven

Usage notes
This word can be used in the singular or plural indiscriminately. Plural usage tends to be more poetic (like English ).

title: céu


text: hemps

title: hemps


text: भुगोल

title: भुगोल


text: enclaves

title: enclaves


text: Category:de:Recreational drugs

title: Category:de:Recreational drugs


text: Category:fr:Recreational drugs

title: Category:fr:Recreational drugs


text: Category:es:Recreational drugs

title: Category:es:Recreational drugs


text: nüè

title: nüè


title: nüe4


text: junkies

title: junkies


text:
obelisks

Noun

 * 1) obelisk

title: obelisks


text:
webcam

Etymology
From, shortened from.

Noun

 * 1)  A video camera whose output may be viewed in real time over a computer network, originally the World Wide Web.

Translations

 * Arabic: كَامِيرَا وِيب
 * Bengali: ওয়েবক্যাম
 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:, 網路攝影機
 * Czech:
 * Danish: webkamera
 * Dutch: ,
 * Esperanto: retkamerao, retfotilo
 * Faroese: vevmyndatól
 * Finnish: verkkokamera,
 * French:, ,
 * Galician: cámara web
 * Georgian: ვებკამერა
 * German:
 * Hindi: वेबकैम
 * Icelandic: vefmyndavél, vebbi,  vefauga,  tölvuauga,  glyrna
 * Italian:
 * Japanese: ウェブカメラ
 * Korean: 웹캠
 * Macedonian: веб-камера
 * Norwegian:
 * Bokmål: nettkamera, webkamera
 * Nynorsk: nettkamera, webkamera
 * Polish: kamer(k)a internetowa
 * Portuguese: câmara web,  webcam
 * Russian: ,
 * Spanish: cámara web
 * Swedish:
 * Tamil:
 * Thai: เว็บแคม, เว็บแคเมรา
 * Vietnamese:

Verb

 * 1)  To take part in a video communication using a webcam.
 * 2)  To film and broadcast with a webcam.
 * 1)  To film and broadcast with a webcam.

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Etymology
.

Synonyms

 * (France)

Etymology
.

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1)   video camera viewed over a computer network

title: webcam


text: Category:fi:Recreational drugs

title: Category:fi:Recreational drugs


text:
webcasting

Noun

 * 1) Broadcasting over the World Wide Web, especially by using a webcam.
 * 2) Spreading information over the Internet using push technology.

title: webcasting


text:
Talk:Miranda

Looks to me that the verb "to Miranda" is extremely rare.

Trying "Mirandaed" in Google gives a few dozen hits, mostly of the sentence cited.

OTH, "mirandized" gives 40.000 hits Brya 19:17, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

title: Talk:Miranda


text:
clodpole

Noun

 * 1)  A stupid person; blockhead.

title: clodpole


text: dopes

title: dopes


text: oracles

title: oracles


text:
webliography

Noun

 * 1) A list of electronic documents or websites that relate to a particular subject, especially one used in a scholarly work.

title: webliography


text:
doping

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  The use of drugs to improve athletic performance.
 * 2) The addition of small quantities of an element (a dopant) to a semiconductor to change its characteristics.
 * 3) The  of  to a  such as airplane fabric, or the  thus produced.
 * 1) The  of  to a  such as airplane fabric, or the  thus produced.

Translations

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:
 * Czech: ,
 * Dutch:
 * Finnish:
 * French: ,
 * German:
 * Greenlandic: doping
 * Hungarian:, , doppinghasználat
 * Italian: ,
 * Japanese:
 * Korean:
 * Polish:
 * Portuguese: ,
 * Russian:
 * Spanish: doping, dopaje
 * Swedish:
 * Turkish:
 * Vietnamese: dùng thuốc kích thích

 * Dutch: dotering
 * Finnish:
 * French:
 * German: Dotierung
 * Italian:
 * Japanese: ドーパント
 * Portuguese:
 * Russian:
 * Swedish:

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) doping

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) doping use of drugs to improve athletic performance

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1)  (use of drugs to improve athletic performance)

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * , the use of drugs to improve athletic performance.

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1)  (use of drugs to improve athletic performance; addition of impurities to semiconductors)

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) support, encouragement, cheering
 * 1) support, encouragement, cheering

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1)   the use of drugs to improve athletic performance
 * 2)   the addition of small quantities of an element to a semiconductor

Etymology
.

Etymology
.

Etymology
.

Usage notes

 * the correct Swedish form is, according to Språkrådet

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  (the use of drugs to improve athletic performance)

title: doping


text: Category:Uralic languages

title: Category:Uralic languages


text:
grassing

Noun

 * 1)  An area of grassland available as pasture for cattle.
 * 2) The exposing of linen in fields to air and light for bleaching purposes.
 * 3) The covering of land with grass.
 * 1) The covering of land with grass.

title: grassing


text:
weblogging

Noun

 * 1)  The design and editing of a weblog; blogging

title: weblogging


text:
doped

Adjective

 * 1) Drugged.
 * He was so doped after the surgery that it took him 2 hours to remember his name.
 * 1)  Describing a semiconductor that has had small amounts of elements added to create charge carriers.
 * The silicon was doped with boron to make a p-type semiconductor.
 * 1) Covered with dope, a glue or paint like pore filler.
 * The doped fabric covering the Hindenburg was very flammable.

title: doped


text:
grassed

Adjective

 * 1) grassy; covered with grass.

title: grassed


text:
blogging

Noun

 * 1)  The design and editing of a blog; weblogging.

title: blogging


text: ottomans

title: ottomans


text: weeded

title: weeded


text:
nastygram

Etymology
. Possibly a playful variation of.

Noun

 * 1)  A written communication containing unpleasant material, especially one that criticizes, insults, or intimidates the recipient.

Usage notes

 * Now often used to refer to unpleasant messages distributed by electronic means, such as by email or internet posting.

title: nastygram


text: penicillins

title: penicillins


text: apple green

title: apple green


text: orbits

title: orbits


text:
orbiting

Noun

 * 1)  The act or practice of ceasing communication with another person, but continuing to follow them or interact with them on social media.

title: orbiting


text: orbited

title: orbited


text: outposts

title: outposts


text:
User talk:TransUtopian

Welcome!

Hello, and welcome to Wiktionary. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:
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title: User talk:TransUtopian


text:
Talk:pugno

Accents
In the Latin pugno/pugnare should have a long o in the I form and a long a in the infinitive. can't do it myself as accents aren't actually shown onj wiktionary (unlike wikipedia).

title: Talk:pugno


text:
oppugno

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to attack, assault, storm, besiege

title: oppugno


text:
रस

Etymology
, from.

Noun

 * 1) gravy, soup, broth
 * 2) juice; any liquid
 * 3) savour, taste
 * 4)  essence
 * : an emotion evoked by literature, drama, or dance

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) gravy
 * 2) juice

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) juice; any liquid
 * 2) savour, taste
 * 3)  essence
 * : an emotion evoked by literature, drama, or dance
 * 1) interest
 * 1) interest

Etymology
, from.

Noun

 * 1) juice

Noun

 * 1)  (“taste”)

Etymology
From, from , from. The Sanskrit root is. Compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1)  the sap or juice of plants and fruits
 * 2) fluid, liquid
 * 3) the best or finest or strongest part of anything, its essence or bloom
 * 4) taste or the organ of taste, relish or inclination for, desire of
 * 5) any object of taste or enjoyment
 * 6) pleasure, charm, beauty
 * 7) feeling, sentiment, affection
 * 8) style, character

Descendants

 * Hindustani:
 * Hindustani:
 * Hindustani:
 * Hindustani:
 * Hindustani:
 * Hindustani:
 * Hindustani:
 * Hindustani:
 * Hindustani:

title: रस


text: lunches

title: lunches


text: coaches

title: coaches


text: roaches

title: roaches


text:
गन्ध

Noun

 * 1)  (“smell”)

Etymology
From ; further etymology unknown, and likely a borrowing, perhaps from. Alternative theories consider a relation to, citing a semantic parallel with and its root. Cognate with 🇨🇬,, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) odor, smell, fragrance
 * 2) fragrant substance, perfume

Descendants

 * Central:
 * Hindustani: gãdhānā
 * Eastern:
 * Northern:
 * Northwestern:
 * Southern:
 * Western:
 * Northern:
 * Northwestern:
 * Southern:
 * Western:
 * Northwestern:
 * Southern:
 * Western:
 * Southern:
 * Western:
 * Southern:
 * Western:
 * Western:
 * Western:
 * Western:
 * Western:

Borrowed terms
 * Hindustani: gandh
 * Hindustani: gandh
 * Hindustani: gandh

title: गन्ध


text:
oppugnare

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1)  to refute

title: oppugnare


text: webcams

title: webcams


text:
judgeship

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) The office or status of a judge.

Translations

 * Bengali:
 * Galician: xudicatura,
 * Irish: breithiúnacht
 * Italian:, giudicatura
 * Latin: iūdicātus, iūstitiāria
 * Ottoman Turkish: قضا
 * Swahili:

title: judgeship


text:
judicatory

Etymology
.

Adjective

 * 1) Pertaining to judgement, or to passing a sentence.
 * 2) By which a judgement can be made; decisive, critical.
 * 1) By which a judgement can be made; decisive, critical.
 * 1) By which a judgement can be made; decisive, critical.

Translations

 * Bulgarian: съдебен, съдийски

Noun

 * 1)  A court or tribunal
 * 2) judicature

title: judicatory


text:
jugful

Noun

 * 1) As much as a jug will hold.

Translations

 * Finnish: kannullinen
 * Georgian: დოქი,

title: jugful


text:
User talk:Jewellgirl

Donation

A gift for a willing or needy cause.

title: User talk:Jewellgirl


text:
juggler

Etymology 1
From, , , partly continuing and partly from , , , equivalent to. .

Noun

 * 1) Agent noun of juggle; one who either literally juggles objects, or figuratively juggles tasks.
 * 2) * 2016, Jule Scherer, “Going out for the first time as a mum,” stuff.co.nz, 15 March, 2016,
 * Since the babies were born I’ve turned into a 24/7 milking machine, a bilingual nursery-rhyme jukebox, a prolific laundress, a bum-wiping wizard, a baby juggler and two-armed synchronised cuddler.
 * 1) A person who practices juggling.
 * 2)  A person who performs tricks using sleight of hand, a conjurer, prestidigitator.
 * 3)  A magician or wizard.
 * 1)  A person who performs tricks using sleight of hand, a conjurer, prestidigitator.
 * 2)  A magician or wizard.
 * 1)  A person who performs tricks using sleight of hand, a conjurer, prestidigitator.
 * 2)  A magician or wizard.
 * 1)  A magician or wizard.
 * 1)  A magician or wizard.
 * 1)  A magician or wizard.
 * 1)  A magician or wizard.
 * 1)  A magician or wizard.
 * 1)  A magician or wizard.
 * 1)  A magician or wizard.

Derived terms

 * wee juggler

Translations

 * Armenian:
 * Belarusian: жанглёр, жанглёрка
 * Bulgarian: жонгльо́р, жонгльо́рка
 * Catalan:
 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin: 雜耍演員,
 * Czech: žonglér, žonglérka
 * Danish: jonglør
 * Esperanto: ĵonglisto
 * Finnish:
 * French: ,
 * Georgian: ჟონგლიორი
 * German: ,
 * Hungarian:
 * Italian: ,
 * Japanese: ジャグラー
 * Korean: 저글러
 * Latin: praestīgiātor, praestīgiātrix, aeruscator
 * Macedonian: жонглер, жонглерка
 * Maharastri Prakrit: 𑀥𑀫𑁆𑀫𑀺𑀅
 * Norwegian:
 * Bokmål: sjonglør
 * Nynorsk: sjonglør
 * Persian: ژانگلر
 * Polish: ,
 * Portuguese:
 * Romanian:
 * Russian: ,
 * Sicilian: jucularu, juculeri
 * Spanish:
 * Swedish:
 * Turkish:
 * Turkmen: žonglýor
 * Ukrainian: жонгле́р, жонгле́рка

 * Esperanto: iluziisto
 * Sanskrit:

title: juggler


text:
User:Theflkwolf777

Ummm......What am I supposed to do here?

title: User:Theflkwolf777


text:
jugglery

Etymology
From, , from.

Noun

 * 1)  Witchcraft, sorcery; magical trickery, legerdemain.
 * 2)  Trickery or deception in general, or an instance of such.
 * 1)  Trickery or deception in general, or an instance of such.
 * 1)  Trickery or deception in general, or an instance of such.

title: jugglery


text:
juiced

Adjective

 * 1)  That has had the juice extracted.
 * 2)  Drunk.
 * 3)  Excited.
 * 4)  On steroids.
 * 1)  On steroids.
 * 1)  On steroids.
 * 1)  On steroids.

title: juiced


text:
vitamin V

Etymology
From the initial of the name brand Viagra.

Noun

 * 1)  The drug sildenafil citrate, used to treat erectile dysfunction.

title: vitamin V


text:
junketeer

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) A junketer.

Verb

 * 1)  To take part in a junket or banquet etc.

title: junketeer


text:
junketer

Noun

 * 1) Someone taking part in a junket or banquet etc; a partygoer.

title: junketer


text:
jurisdictional

Adjective

 * 1) Of or pertaining to jurisdiction.

Translations

 * Catalan:
 * Galician:
 * Italian: ,
 * Latin: iurisdictionalis
 * Polish:
 * Portuguese:
 * Slovak: jurisdikčný
 * Spanish: jurisdiccional

title: jurisdictional


text:
juristic

Etymology
Loan translation of obsolete.

Adjective

 * 1)  legal, juridical, pertaining to the law and jurisprudence

title: juristic


text:
juristics

Noun

 * 1) The theory of law, or its study.

title: juristics


text:
enthalpy of vaporization

Noun

 * 1)  The amount of energy required to change 1 gram of liquid to gas at its boiling point.

title: enthalpy of vaporization


text:
Lord's Prayer

Proper noun

 * 1) The prayer which, according to the New Testament of the Bible, Jesus Christ taught his disciples in the Sermon on the Mount.

Translations

 * Afrikaans: Onse Vader
 * Albanian: Ati ynë
 * Amharic: አባታችን ሆይ
 * Arabic: اَلصَّلَاة اَلرَّبِّيَّة
 * Aragonese: Painuestro
 * Aramaic: ܨܠܘܬܐ ܡܪܢܝܬܐ
 * Armenian: Հայր Մեր
 * Aromanian: Tatã-a nostru
 * Asturian: Padre nuestru
 * Azerbaijani: Atamız
 * Basque: Gure Aita
 * Belarusian: Малі́тва Гаспо́дняя
 * Breton:
 * Bulgarian: Отче наш
 * Catalan: Parenostre
 * Cebuano: Amahan Namo
 * Cherokee: ᎣᎩᏙᏓ ᎦᎸᎳᏗ ᎮᎯ
 * Chinese:
 * Cantonese: 主禱文
 * Mandarin: ,
 * Cornish: Pader
 * Corsican: Patre Nostru
 * Czech:
 * Danish: fadervor
 * Dutch:
 * Esperanto: Patro nia
 * Estonian: meieisapalve
 * Faroese: faðirvár
 * Fijian: Na Masu
 * Finnish: Herran rukous, Isä meidän -rukous, Isä Meidän
 * French:
 * Galician: Noso Pai
 * Georgian: მამაო ჩვენო
 * German:
 * Greek:, Πάτερ Ημών
 * Greenlandic: Ataatarpooq
 * Guaraní: Ore Ru
 * Hawaiian: Pule Alaka‘i A Ka Haku
 * Hebrew: תפילת האדון
 * Hiligaynon: Amay Namon
 * Hindi: परमात्मा की प्रार्थना
 * Hungarian:
 * Icelandic:
 * Ido: ,
 * Ilocano: Amami
 * Indonesian: Bapa Kami, Doa Tuhan
 * Inupiaq: Aapavut qilangmiittuatiin
 * Irish: Paidir, Paidir an Tiarna
 * Italian:
 * Japanese: 主の祈り, 主祷文
 * Kapampangan: Pangadi ning Ginu, Ibpa Mi
 * Kashubian: Òjcze Nasz
 * Kazakh: Атамыз
 * Komi-Permyak: Миян айным
 * Komi-Zyrian: Батьӧй миян
 * Korean: 주님의 기도
 * Kurdish:
 * Northern Kurdish: Bavê me
 * Latin: Pater noster
 * Latvian: Tēvs musu, Tēvreize
 * Lithuanian: Tėve mūsų
 * Low German:
 * Dutch Low Saxon: Onzevaoder
 * German Low German: Vadderunser
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 * Nahuatl: Totahtzineh
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 * Norwegian:
 * Bokmål: Fader vår
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 * Serbo-Croatian:
 * Cyrillic: Оче наш, Оченаш
 * Roman: Oče naš,
 * Sicilian: Patri nostru
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 * Slovene: Oče naš
 * Sorbian:
 * Lower Sorbian: Wóścenas
 * Upper Sorbian: Wótčenaš
 * Spanish: padrenuestro
 * Swahili: Baba Yetu
 * Swedish: ,
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 * Turkish: Pederimiz, Babamız
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 * Urdu: دعائے ربانی
 * Vietnamese: Kinh Lạy Cha
 * Walloon: priyire do Signeur,
 * Welsh: Gweddi'r Arglwydd, Ein Tad
 * West Frisian: Us Heit
 * Yiddish: אונדזער פֿאָטער

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numberless

Etymology
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Adjective

 * 1) Without number; having too many to count.
 * The stars are as numberless as the grains of sand on a beach.

Synonyms

 * , ; see also Thesaurus:innumerable

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Phryne

Etymology
From.

Derived terms

 * genera of toads

Related terms

 * genera of toads

Etymology
From, from , a nickname often given to prostitutes of the time.

Proper noun

 * 1)  An Ancient Greek courtesan of the 4th century BC, reputedly the model for '  and famously tried for the capital charge of impiety, during which trial she allegedly bared her breasts before the judges.

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About witchinghour
I'm from Amman, Jordan. I'm a big supporter of Open Source.

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Wiktionary talk:About Latin

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Vowel length
First, if this has been discussed already somewhere else, I apologize.

The current standards state that macrons indicate long vowels, and forbid the use of the breve, saying that any vowel that is not long must be short. However, Latin was generally not written with indications which vowels are long and which are short. If none of the orthographic tools were ever used to indicate that a specific vowel is long, we can infer its length in several other ways: The point is that it can happen that in some cases we simply cannot know whether it was short or long, beyond a random guess. If Wiktionary is to be exact, it needs a three-way distinction between 'long', 'short' and 'we don't know'.
 * if the syllable is open (including cases of muta cum liquida), we can infer the length quite certainly in the majority of cases from the accent placement or the meter.
 * if the syllable is closed, we cannot use the above methods. We can still use etymology and sound changes affecting vowel length that we know happened to determine the length. If we are lucky, a Roman grammarian will have commented on the length of the vowel.

Another problem is the distinction between syllable weight and vowel length. Generally, macrons are used to mark long as opposed to short vowels, whether in a closed or open syllable e.g. natūra and cōnsul. However, in cases where a double consonant is written as a single consonant, e.g. maior for [majjor], the preceding vowel is given a macron even if it is short, i.e. māior (see W. Sidney Allen, Vox Latina). In such cases the macron represents a heavy or long syllable, not vowel length. This results from an incomplete understanding of Latin pronunciation, orthography and/or phonology. Such notation is inconsistent, misleading and obscures the length of the vowel in case we do know its actual length (by one of the methods for closed syllables described above). While it is true that this practice is present in many dictionaries, it is based on wrong conclusions and should therefore be abandoned.

The guidelines should address these issues. 109.123.31.174 18:03, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

 * In some way some parts of your question were asked at Information desk/2017/February (from February 2017 too), but this place is better anyway. In that discussion there is a focus on different vowel lengths mentioned in different dictionaries, but it also addresses New Latin terms with uncertain vowel lengths.
 * Sometimes when the length is unknown both macron and breve could be in use like "ā̆" - though it could also mean or be misunderstand as both long and short, so it also requires a note.
 * But there might be entries which simply use vowels without diacritics (simply a, e, i, o, u) but without indication of a certain vowel length. Like if one finds a Medieval or New Latin term and one doesn't know the length, one simply doesn't use any diacritics - which might incorrectly mean all vowels are short, when in fact they are unknown (at the moment or to the contributing editor).
 * -Slœtel (talk) 23:52, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

 * Re “If Wiktionary is to be exact, it needs a three-way distinction between 'long' [¯], 'short' [˘] and 'we don't know' [ ].”, I think I agree with that. Lewis & Short, Gaffiot, and many others use both the macron and the breve, whereas the Oxford Latin Dictionary uses almost exclusively the macron (it has “sibī̆” and uses breves for -initial words; the latter use is primarily a mark of vocality, however); I'd love to know the different rationales, especially the OLD’s. I definitely agree with your point about and its ilk; the macron should indicate long vowels, not heavy syllables. It might be worth bringing up these points in the Beer parlour, to attract a larger audience. Re combining-⏓, that should only be used for vowels that legitimately vary in length (, for example). — I.S.M.E.T.A. 11:05, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

 * Actually, I would suggest using a special symbol for 'we don't know', while keeping unmarked (or optionally for emphasis, the breve) for 'short'. Three reasons. First, readers are used to the current convention, so they are used to unmarked vowels representing short vowels. Therefore, anyone that is unaware of the change in convention is likely to interpret the unmarked vowel incorrectly. Second, less words and less vowels need to be updated, making it easier to apply the convention to all the entries. Third, a new symbol will be unfamiliar to the reader, making them wonder what it means and finally leading them to a note saying that vowel length is not known. That is, it would make the vowels with unknown vowel length stand out from the rest, which would be a good thing. We would then get minimally different natūra, cōnsul, maior, sibī̆, Tra̚iānus (just as an example).
 * I wanted to bring this to attention, but I do not really have the time to follow this discussion. So if this needs to move on to the Beer parlour, I ask someone else to do what is necessary. Thank you! 109.123.31.174 16:13, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

 * I take your points, but ̚|˺ (U+031A COMBINING LEFT ANGLE ABOVE) is definitely not the right diacritic for this purpose — for one thing, it's barely distinguishable from the macron. The most intuitive mark for a vowel of ambiguous quantity would be a COMBINING QUESTION MARK ABOVE; however, such a mark appears not yet to have been encoded in Unicode, although Martin Schrage and Karl Pentzlin have proposed such an addition in these three contributions. Without a coherent proposal, I don't think this is worth taking to the Beer parlour; it needs more work before then. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 22:01, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Vowel length of Latin first declension nouns borrowed from Greek and ending in a (ā or ă)
This (IMHO) is a too important matter so that it doesn't belong on a monthly WT:ID or WT:TR discussian page.

Quoting from: Friedrich Neue, ''Formenlehre der Lateinischen Sprache. Erster Theil'', Stuttgart, 1866, p.53-56, §.18 (GB): So ist Plaut. Epid. 4, 1, 10 Cantharā, Rud. 1, 4, 17 nach wahrscheinlicher Vermuthung Palaestrāne. Derselbe Mil. 4, 2, 73 hat Aetnā mons. [...] Aber Verg. Ge. 4, 343 hat Ephyrā nach dem Med., sonst Ephyre; und Aen. 3, 702 Gelā. Tibull. 2, 5, 67 Amaltheā, Prop. 3 (2), 14, 5 Electrā. Ovid. Amor. 3, 1, 7. 3, 9, 3. rem. am. 379. Her. 15, 7 elegiā, A. A. 1, 511 rem. am. 743 Phaedrā, Fast. 4, 177 Electrā, 4, 201 Rheā (als Name einer Göttin), 5, 115 Amaltheā, 6, 501 Leucotheā, Her. 14, 1. 53 Hypermnestrā. Colum. 10, 235 einarā. Sen. Herc. fur. 203 und wohl auch 1009 Megarā. Bei Stat. ist außer den von Prisc. angeführten Beispielen von Tegeā und Nemeā noch Theb. 1, 355. 2, 378. 4, 150 Nemeā, 2, 286 Pasitheā, 4, 45 und wahrscheinlich 7, 331 Mideā, 4, 224 Maleā, 12, 178. 255. 303. 373. 391. Argiā, Mart. 12, 31, 9 Nausicaā (nach dem Voss. c, in mehreren anderen wie Put. Voss. A B C, ist Nausica, in einigen Nasica), und 14, 187, 2 Glycerā (nach dem Thuan., in welchem nec licera ist, und anderen Büchern). Aber wie an die Stelle des Griech. η im Latein. oft ein kurzes a tritt, so ist auch das lange α [= ᾱ] des Griech. im Latein. an vielen Stellen verkürzt, selbst in den nämlichen Nomina, welche nach dem Obigen zuweilen das lange a [= ā] behalten. [... (examples with short a; like 3/4 of page)] und die adjectivisch gebildeten Namen von Frauen und von Ländern auf ia werden wie Latein. Nomina behandelt. [...] Zu dem Nomin. auf ā gehört ein Accus. auf ān, Andromedan Ovid. Met. 4, 756, Argian Stat. Theb. 4, 91, Electran Ovid. Trist. 2, 395, Glaphyran und Glyceran Mart. 11, 20, 3. 11, 40, 1, Malean Lucan. 9, 36. Stat. Theb. 10, 537, Odyssean Auson. epitaph. 5, 2. In diesen Stellen ist am unstatthaft wegen des Vocals im Anfange des folgenden Wortes, hier und da aber ist die Var. -en vorhanden. Die Endung ān findet sich vor Consonanten in Andromedan Ovid. A. A. 1, 53. Met. 4, 670, in Electran Ovid. Fast. 4, 32. 174, in Megaran Mart. 11, 43, 6, in Phthian Ovid. Met. 13, 156; in einzelnen dieser Stellen ist als Var. theils -en theils -am bemerkt. Solche Nomina, welche im Griech. ein kurzes α haben, können auch im Latein. den Accus. auf kurzes an bilden. Prisc. 7, 2, 5 S. 730: Accusativum quoque Graecum in femininis invenimus a poetis proferri, sed raro. Statius in VII (V. 319): Namque ferunt raptam patriis Aeginan ab undis. So Camarinan Ovid. Fast. 4, 477, Cillan Met. 13, 174, Deidamian Stat. Achill. 2, 367, Iphigenian Ovid. Pont. 3, 2, 62, Maian Fast 4, 174, Orithyian Met. 6, 707, Ossan Prop. 2, 1, 19. Ovid. Fast. 1, 307. Sen. Herc. Oet. 1735. Aetna 49. [...] Auch in Prosa stehen zuweilen Accus. auf an sowohl von Nomin. auf ā wie auf ă. Varro bei Non. S. 383 Odyssian (in denselben Worten bei Non. S. 480 wird Odyssiam gelesen), Cic. Divin 2, 27, 59. 2, 37, 79 Politian und tetrarchian, Liv. 45, 31, 14 Antissan, Plin. 35, 4, 10. 35, 10, 36, 101 Nemean und Nausicaan, Flor. 2, 8, 9 Euboean (doch im Nazar. Euboeam)."
 * "Griechische Nomina auf ᾱ bewahren im Lateinischen zuweilen die Länge des Endvocals. Prisc 6, 2, 10, S. 681: Hoc etiam sciendum, quod omnis nominativus in a desinens corripitur, quamvis sit apud Graecos productus, ut Lydia, Syria, Phrygia, Italia, Hispania; unde accentus quoque cum tempore mutatur. In paucis tamen inveniuntur poetae Graecis servasse morem Graecum. Statius in IIII Thebaidos (V. 287): Non Tegéa, non ipsa deo vacat alite felix Cyllene. Idem in VI (V. 508): Te plangeret Argos, te Neméa, tibi Lerna comas Larissaque supplex poneret. Derselbe 7, 2, 5 S. 720: Apud Statium Nemeā, quia servavit a productam, accentum quoque Graecum servavit, id est paenultimam acutam, in V Thebaidos (V. 44): Nec faciis Neméā latas evolvere vires.

That is: So is Plaut. [..] Cantharā, Rud. [..] according to a likely conjecture Palaestrāne. [Other examples: Aetnā mons [...] Ephyrā (else Ephyre), Gelā, Amaltheā, Electrā, elegiā, Phaedrā, Electrā, Rheā (name of a goddess), Amaltheā, Leucotheā, Hypermnestrā, einarā, Megarā, Nemeā, Pasitheā, Mideā (likely), Maleā, Argiā, Nausicaā (depending on text/edition), Glycerā. Note: By context it's said that these should all be nominatives (not ablatives) in -ā.] But just like Greek η is replaced by a short a in Latin, the long α of Greek becomes short in many places in Latin, even in the nouns which according to the before sometimes retain the long a. [Examples of short a, and sometimes in words which can also have a long a according to the foregoing text, like Electră, elegiă, Phaedră, Rheă (name of a priestess), Pasitheă, Argiă, Cassandră, Clepatră, Ledă and more.], and in the adjectivaly formed names of women and countries in ia which are treated like Latin nouns." To the nominative ā belongs an accusative in ān, [examples]. In all these places am is inadmissible because of the vowel in the begining of the following word, but here and there is the variant -en. The ending ān occurs for consonants in [examples: Andromedan, Electan, Megaran, Phthian]; in some of these places is as variant partly -en partly -am a noticed. Such nouns which in Greek have a short α, can have in Latin the accusative in short an. [Latin quotes] [Examples: Camarinan (from Greek which here in WT has a short vowel ᾰ), Cillan, Deidamian, Iphigenian, Maian, Orithyian, Ossan, Aetna.] [...] Even in prosa sometimes stand accusatives in an both from nouns in ā and in ă. [Examples: Odyssian (in another place Odyssiam), Politian and tetrarchian, Antissan, Namean and Nausicaan, Euboean (but somewhere Euboeam).]
 * Greek nouns in ᾱ sometimes retain the length of the last vowel in Latin. [Latin quotes]

I guess that should imply the following: PS: Dictionaries often do not mention a long -ā just like they sometimes don't mention an accusative in -an/-ān or some proper nouns at all; while sometimes they have a form with -ē besides -a or forms with additional vowels instead of -ā like "ĕlĕgīa (ĕlĕgēa, in Ov. ĕlĕgēĭă) [...] form elegeia, Ov. Am. 3, 1, 7; 3, 9, 3; id. R. Am. 379." in L&S. But Georges at least has "Nomin. Phaedrā gemessen bei Ov. art. am. 1, 511." which would mean that the nominative can have a long -ā. So just like it's done in other cases, it should be justified and make sense to assume vowel lengths like in Greek. -Slœtel (talk) 23:52, 18 February 2017 (UTC), 01:03, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Vowel length in Latin terms coming from Greek depends on the Greek, that is when it's -ᾱν in Greek, it's always -ān and not -an in Latin and when it's -αν in Greek it's always -an and not -ān in Latin. (In theory less educated Romans and pupils sometimes could have used -an for Greek -ᾱν and -ān for Greek -αν, but this would have been an error.)
 * If one assumes that a Latin -an (be it -ăn or -ān) is -ān, the nominative should also be -ā. Though it could also have an alternative nominative in -a and accusative in -am. (In practice it could be that sometimes only a accusative in -ān and a nominative in -a are attested, but that's just like with many other forms, especially vocatives, which aren't attested.)

 * What about Latin borrowings ending in from Greek feminine abstract nouns ending in ? There are a lot of them. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 11:09, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

 * The text above should say that an educated Roman could have used it in a Greek way with -iā in the nominative and -iān in the accusative. When Latinising it just like changing Greek -os into -us, -on into -um, it would become -ia and -iam. But if you are asking for examples, I'm don't know if there are any.
 * -os and -us are different in writing and one can differ between them, but -ā and -a would look the same in prose. There are ways to mark long vowels, but they are optional.
 * Depening on edition one can find elegeia/Elegeia/Elegeïa or Elegia from in Ovid, which should be ĕlĕgēĭă (L&S) or ĕlĕgīā (Friedrich Neue above has ā, and ει becoming ī is common). IMHO ĕlĕgīā makes more sense than ĕlĕgēĭă with a change from  to ē. But that should be the feminine  from  and not.
 * It should be very likely that one can find an accusative in -ian/-iān from a Greek word ending with -ῐ́ᾱ, at least in New Latin. It should be -iān and when the nominative is nearby it should be -iā. But I doubt that there is a clear proof for the vowel length. Ways to proof a long vowel are finding a text which marks long vowels or finding a good poem; ways to assume but not to proof a long vowel are finding amnestia near to amnestian.
 * In case of New Latin one could have doubts regarding the vowel lengths. -as/-ās often is short in biblical proper nouns like Lucas in modern European languages and it's short in Church Latin according to . Just like that -as/-ās could have been short sometimes in New Latin, and so -iān could have become -ian. But as New Latin went back to the roots, -ās would be the proper form.
 * Valerius Maximus (1st century A.D./C.E.) has "quam Athenienses amnestian uovant" (The Latin Library). Compared with it should be amnēstiān and then the nominative should also be amnēstiā like in Greek. But I don't know if one can clearly attest this nominative. This book at GB has amnestia near to amnestian, so one can at least assume that it is amnēstiā.
 * -Slœtel (talk) 19:08, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

 * I'm happy to accept the validity of the inference of a nominative from an attested accusative  (with or without direct evidence of vowel length). I think, however, that it's a bit of a stretch to infer from the attestation of some  forms that Greek-type declension and vowel lengths should be rolled out as standard to the entire class of nouns ending in  that derive from an etymological . — I.S.M.E.T.A. 22:35, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Just be the way, similary, I would usually assume that terms from Greek ending in -eus (-εύς -eús) have a diphthong, although it can have two syllables which likely is rare too (Phalereus is attested as Phălērĕŭs). If New Latin is concerned, -ān might be less rarer than in ancient Latin, but that's New Latin anyway. -Slœtel (talk) 20:02, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * As far as I know the accusative in -ān (or more specific -iān) with nominative -a/ā (or -ia/-iā) is rare anyway. Terms where I found a mentioning of an accusative -iān in a dictionary where aetiologiān and sphaeromachiān (both in Sen. Ep.), analogiān (Quintilianus), polītīān and tetrarchia (Cicero, both in the same text), theologiān (Augustinus). While Lewis & Short, Gaffiot and online Pons do not mention this accusative, Georges has it although often without any specific cite or reference and OLD has it with a citaton. For many other terms both Georges and OLD don't give an accusative with -īān, e.g. not for acyrologia, aeschrologia, alogia, Amantia, amphibologia (or amphibolia), anōmalia, aperantologia, apologia, astrologia, carphologia, cōrycomachia, crīthologia, dēmarchia, dilogia, ecclēsia, ēthologia, etymologia, eulogia, geneālogia, genethlialogia, hysterologia, Lamia, macrologia, monarchia, monomachia, nauarchia (or nāvarchia), naumachia, palillogia, perimachia, perissologia, philologia, philosophia, physiologia, pithanologia, prosōdia, tautologia, toparchia, trāchīa, tropologia (some of these words aren't in the OLD). And even if an accusative in -ān (or -iān) is attested, it could be rare and an exception anyway. Personally, I would usually assume nominative -a (or -ia) with accusative -am (or -iam), unless an accusative in -ān (or -iān) or somehow a nominative in -ā (or -iā) is attested. If an accusative in -ān (or -iān) is attested, there could be a usage note regarding the nominative. E.g. as Augustinus has theologian multiple times, his theologia could have -ā too, but one can't see the vowel length.

Comparatives and superlatives
, I've been meaning to bring this up for a while now, but rather unusually on here, comparatives and superlatives of Latin adjectives (e.g. altus) are generally neither indicated in the headword line nor given in the declension table itself, but simply listed below the table. Is this something we want to keep, or should it be changed? In any event, it should be written in to the relevant module (I already asked Metaknowledge, and he thinks it should be changed). Esszet (talk) 01:42, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

 * Comparatives and superlatives were groups that I didn't have a clear idea how I thought we should present them. On the one hand, they are "forms" of the base adjective, but in another sense, they have their own "lemma" and declension, and can carry meanings that are not present in the standard adjective. Since I was wavering about how to tackle this, I never set up anything in the templates, nor generated more than a couple of test cases on Wiktionary. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:48, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

 * I'd like to see them in inflection tables, but their full inflection doesn't have to be there. In other words, the inflection table of should list  and, but things like  and  wouldn't be at  but only in the inflection tables of  and  themselves. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 07:31, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

 * I'd prefer to see them in the headword line, but yeah, not the full inflection, just the two lemmas, as in the Polish word . Esszet (talk) 11:19, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

 * already has parameters for them, so we might as well use them. —CodeCat 12:10, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

 * As CodeCat intimated, many (if not all) of the adjective headword templates have comp and sup parameters, which can be used to specify an adjective's comparative and superlative degrees (as I've just done for ). Pace Aɴɢʀ, I'd rather not see the comparative and superlative degrees in the declension tables, if for no other reason than the fact that some adjectives are comparable and others are not will result either in incorrect information being presented or in aesthetic inconsistency in presentation; however, if you still want to add the comparative and superlative degrees to the declension tables, consider the way ObsequiousNewt did that for Ancient Greek adjectives with . — I.S.M.E.T.A. 00:33, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Any input? Esszet (talk) 19:58, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * So, having been the one to set up the comp and sup parameters in mod:la-headword, I'd prefer them in the headword. Indeed we could add acceleration if anyone uses such things. My main issue is the categories like cat:Latin comparative adjectives. The truth is that Latin comparative and superlative adjectives and adverbs do not function grammatically differently from normal adjectives and adverbs. On the other hand, I do like categorizing such things. I'd prefer Latin comparative adjectives to be both placed under the heading of cat:Latin adjectives and cat:Latin comparative adjectives as opposed to just the latter. — JohnC5 23:56, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

 * I myself would like to keep the positive-degree adjectives separate. How about having a Category:Latin positive adjectives or Category:Latin absolute adjectives of them, and then having it as a subcategory of Category:Latin adjectives alongside Category:Latin comparative adjectives and Category:Latin superlative adjectives? — I.S.M.E.T.A. 00:34, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * ? Subcategories seem to be the way to go here. Esszet (talk) 15:42, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * That could be fine. The current templates la-adj-comparative and la-adj-superlative are wildly insufficient. They should display exactly like the la-adj-3rd-2E and la-adj-1&2 respectively with the added notation that they are the comparative/superlative degree of some positive adjective. — JohnC5 15:51, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * That kind of information goes in the definitions, e.g. . —CodeCat 16:47, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * True, then where should we add the Category:Latin comparative adjectives category? — JohnC5 16:59, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Never mind, they already are subcategories of Category:Latin adjectives. Esszet (talk) 22:48, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * We can still use, and the comparative adjectives category should be added by that. I'm just saying that we shouldn't actually list "comparative of X" in the headword line. —CodeCat 23:14, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I made some changes to la-adj-comparative and la-adj-superlative. — JohnC5 01:45, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Did you mean something else? Those templates haven't been edited since November. Esszet (talk) 14:59, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, technically, I edited mod:la-headword (poorly) so that the usage of la-adj-comparative and la-adj-superlative would remain the same, but the output would change. — JohnC5 15:34, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn't check the actual code. Would you mind getting rid of the "comparative/superlative of" headers? I also think that information would be better off in definitions. Otherwise, once someone gets a bot ready, I can put auto-generation in the module. Esszet (talk) 22:34, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * So, I can easily remove the "comparative/superlative of" text, though the text of the second positional parameter will need to be removed from entries. What do you mean by "put auto-generation in the module"? — JohnC5 04:38, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I've made the changes. — JohnC5 04:47, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Make it generate them automatically and create a nc parameter for adjectives that aren't comparable. Esszet (talk) 14:41, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually, since there are a lot of adjectives that are comparable but don't have the comparative and superlative listed at all (e.g. gramineus), the best thing to do would be to create the nc parameter now, put it in where necessary, and do the bot run afterwards. That way, we won't have a lot of adjectives that are comparable listed as being not. Esszet (talk) 14:56, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok, you were saying autogenerate from the positive templates to the comparative and superlative. I was confused because I had already added autogeneration of the neuter comparative in la-adj-comparative and of the feminine and neuter superlatives in la-adj-superlative, so I didn't know which autogeneration you meant. You're plan sounds good. Please tell me anything I can do to help. We also have a lot of comparative and superlative entries that are not so-labelled that will need to be converted. Also, should we make la-adv-comparative and la-adv-superlative now? — JohnC5 15:22, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I guess, if for no other reason than to put them in categories. I just looked at Category:Latin adjectives, and since there are so god damn many, I don't think we're going to be able to put nc in manually. Of course, I also don't see a way for a bot to be able to detect grammatical uncomparability, so it looks as though we have a problem on our hands. Any ideas? Esszet (talk) 20:47, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was curious how you intended to do that. Maybe have some ideas. — JohnC5 03:46, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Doesn't look like it, I guess just move existing things to the headword line for now and we'll add auto-generation later on. Esszet (talk) 14:49, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

This short reply is put long below, but it's commented out as not to bother anyone.
 * I guess the comparative and superlative fit into the header like as now in.
 * As for the uncomparable/comparable distinction and categorisation, I see some problems. Often one can find a positive and then often one doesn't know whether or not it's comparable, so one can't say whether it's comparable or uncomparable. So one always should have to add something like "|nc=1" (not comparable = true, that is it's uncomparable) manually.
 * -Slœtel (talk) 20:02, 3 May 2017 (UTC), replaced an it at 20:26, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * What do you mean? Can you provide examples? Esszet (talk) 20:05, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * According to Wiktionary, is comparable, while  is not, and  is sometimes comparable. So how should one know whether or not / (= Danish) or  (= dead) is comparable? One could search for all possible comparated forms and look into dictionaries, but that's much work. Hence Latin adjectives without having the parameters |comp= or |sup= in it, shouldn't be listed as uncomparable. Instead one should always have to add something like |nc=1, if one knows that an adjective is uncomparable. -Slœtel (talk) 20:26, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I've edited the entry for Chinese so it no longer says it is not comparable. I found plenty of instances of "more Chinese" and "most Chinese" (with the adjective, not the noun) on Google Books: phrases like "Taiwan is more Chinese than China" and "that was the most Chinese thing I've ever done". —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 20:53, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok, and thank you for mentiong it. Then maybe one could use another English adjective or a non-English adjective as example, but maybe one can find comparated forms of it too. Alternatively one could give the argumentation of some dictionaries, grammars or some people. canoo.net for example explains: "The so-called "absolute" adjectives cannot be compared." but with "Nevertheless, these adjectives are occasionally compared [...] This type of comparison is frequent in colloquial language and in advertising". While for English it should be relatively easy to find comparated forms of such adjectives (e.g. "most optimal" for ) and while it's sometimes possible for German to find colloquial comparated form, it could be different in Latin. Anyway, I don't think it would be a good idea to add adjectives without the parameters |comp= or |sup= in it into a category like Category:Latin uncomparable adjectives. -Slœtel (talk) 21:52, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I guess where there is ambiguity, it should just be put in a footnote (if anywhere). I can't imagine things like 'more dead' and 'most dead' would need to be in the headword line if they're going to be included at all. Esszet (talk) 20:47, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Since it appears that Slœtel goes long periods of time without contributing, does my idea sound good to everyone? Esszet (talk) 10:58, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 * ? Esszet (talk) 23:32, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Quickly outline what you've finally landed on as a solution? I find this back an forth a bit hard to follow. — JohnC5 00:32, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * We really haven't reached a solution overall, the consensus at this point is just to move existing things to the headword line. Esszet (talk) 10:32, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Which "existing things"? I'm probably fine with whatever changes, but I'm still not sure exactly what's going where. Anything is better than the current state of confusion. — JohnC5 14:28, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * If they're already there, just move them to the headword line if they aren't there already. Otherwise, we're going to have to figure out a way to make a bot detect grammatical uncomparability (if that's possible at all). Esszet (talk) 14:55, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Cool, go for it, I say. — JohnC5 15:13, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

I pinged you because I have no idea how to work with bots. Esszet (talk) 17:10, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I can sometimes do AWB stuff, but no bots. — JohnC5 17:37, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Then ? Anyone here know how to work with bots? Esszet (talk) 20:34, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * It's not just knowing how to work with them- you have to have your bot approved by a vote (see WT:BOT). The routine procedure is to make a request at the Grease Pit. If you ask nicely and the bot owners aren't all too busy, someone will usually help you. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:15, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks, I'll do that now. Esszet (talk) 23:33, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry this is so late, but my request simply wasn't taken up…should I just ask again? Esszet (talk) 22:05, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Appendices in need of cleanup
I recently discovered Appendix:Mutations of the letter and sound a in the Latin language, linked at. It is very badly formatted and needs cleanup. The Latin words should be italicized and language-tagged, and probably linked; it should also be more consistently marked with macrons and breves. Some of the Greek was messed up. I began doing both these things, but there's more to do.

I am not sure about the capitalized words (representing the letterforms used in inscriptions); they should perhaps be converted to lowercase.

I think there may be other appendices like this, but as this one was not categorized, the others may also not be. This page was created by User:Liliana-60, who is now blocked from all Wikimedia sites. — Eru·tuon 02:58, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

 * The text seems to be: - and L&S often doesn't mark the vowel length properly and uses capitals for inscriptions. 84.161.19.68 17:55, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Votes/2017-05/Clarifying LDL status of extinct languages
I have created this vote, which mainly impinges on Modern Latin. Although it does not change existing practice, please take a look if you're interested and vote when it starts in a week. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 02:42, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

 * If it impinges on Modern Latin, then it could change existing practice, and then there might be entries or information which would have to be deleted. -Slœtel (talk) 20:02, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Page is incomplete
There should be a paragraph about Old Latin, with a reference to these discussions:
 * Beer_parlour/2014/February
 * Wiktionary_talk:About_Latin/Archive_2

as well as about New Latin, Contemporary Latin, etc. Don't know where to add that. --Barytonesis (talk) 19:29, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Old Latin is considered its own language on Wiktionary, it has its own code . So it should also have its own page About Old Latin. Of course, that page could just redirect to this one to keep it all together. —CodeCat 14:17, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Substantive adjectives/participles
I noticed that an IP and User:Robbie SWE were getting into an edit war at pigmentarius over whether la in an adjective sense should be la. I "solved" this by splitting the substantive sense off into a noun POS. Then I looked at the edit history and realized that the adjective-with-substantive label setup was intentionally done that way by a veteran Latin editor and that this was standard practice. Given that I'm a completely self-taught la-1, I figured I should bring it up here before doing anything further.

The only discussion I could find in the archives here is from a decade ago, so it's possible that revisiting this might be beneficial. The problem, as I see it, is that substantive adjectives have a specific gender and function as nouns, but aren't categorized as nouns or by their gender. They also don't have their own headword line, so this kind of information has to be tacked on with the equivalent of paper clips and duct tape. Yes, I realize that these are also still adjectives, but this arrangement seems a bit ad hoc and clumsy. Chuck Entz (talk) 08:00, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

(Note 1: could imply that the vocative of masculine substantivisations is -ī, but that's just one and maybe a not so good example. Note 2:,  - and possibly / - which are other words ending in -ius and have an attested masculine vocative singular don't proof anything for substantivisations like . Note 3: Old grammars sometimes give a rule like "proper nouns have vocative -ī while common nouns have -ie" or "proper nouns have -ī while common nouns except some exceptions (like filius, genius) have -ie", but the first is wrong and the second probably without attestion.) -80.133.117.77 13:31, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * All quiet on the reversion front, I gave up on finding a reasonable solution so the edit war is averted. My reason for reverting this anon's contribution in the first place was that I haven't seen any other entry where la was used. With that said, I'm glad you brought it up so we can come to a feasible solution within the community. --Robbie SWE (talk) 08:58, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
 * As I understand it, substantive is synonymous with the modern definition of noun, so a "substantive adjective" should always be placed under a Noun header. In the past (starting in Latin and Greek), noun (or the equivalent) was a cover term for what we call nouns, adjectives, and most pronouns and determiners, because these were things that all had case forms. The historical term for what we call noun would have been substantive noun, I think, and adjectives were called adjective noun or (with French word order) noun adjective. Later, those were shortened to noun and adjective.
 * If there are any so-called adjectives of fixed gender with a meaning that is not clearly derived from the ordinary meaning of the adjective, they are probably nouns and should be categorized as such. However, if the meaning is just "someone or something that can be described with the adjective", it's probably not worth having a separate POS section, because you can noun any Latin or Greek adjective in that way, and so that would give several noun entries for almost every Latin adjective. Sort of like how you can add the to many English adjectives and create a plural noun. (However, we do have an entry for the plural noun .)
 * So I think you did the right thing here. L&S and LSJ typically treat substantivized adjectives under the adjectives that they derive from, but that is inconsistent with Wiktionary's practice, in which we always have separate POS headers for different parts of speech. (LSJ sometimes defines derived words under the lemmas from which they derive, which is even more inconsistent with Wiktionary's practices.) — Eru·tuon 09:27, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
 * In Latin gender is important. That is, gender has to be mentioned, and if it's just a label, then the gender has to be somehow in the label, be it,  ,  or whatever. Thus the reverts by the admins were no improvements.   Of course, alternatively the substantive sense could also be put in an own POS section.   In any case, the declension has to be considered too. For third declension substantivisations something like  could be wrong as substantivisations could preseve the adjectival or i-stem declension. E.g. in in New Latin one can commonly find the ablative in plurali (short for in numero plurali or in plurali numero) instead of in plurale. For second declension substantivisations the only question is "What's the correct vocative singular of the masculine substantivisation?" as all other forms are the same. The new entry with a new separate POS section gives a probably unattested vocative which could doubtful - while the old entry with the label did somewhat conceal the correct declension of the substantivisation and while also in some way implying it's -ie which is probably unattested and doubtful too. Maybe properly the table in the separate POS section should have "|voc_sg=?" or something else in it.

Fourth principal part
Wiktionary always lists the supine as the fourth principal part of a Latin verb. But my Latin language textbook (Ecce Romani), a commonly used study program for the Latin language, lists the passive perfect participle as the fourth principal part instead. For example, we have "dico, dicere, dixi, dictum" here on Wiktionary, but "dico, dicere, dixi, dictus" in my textbook.

Which type of fourth principal part is more commonly used? I'm guessing the supine, but my Latin teacher has seldom encountered usage of the supine as the fourth principal part. I'm from the U.S; does it depend on geographical region or something? Please help me out here, and thanks in advance. Johnny Shiz (talk) 21:22, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I grew up in the U.S. too, but my Latin textbooks in junior high and high school always used the supine as the fourth principal part. I think the reasoning is that intransitive verbs don't necessarily have past passive participles, but all verbs have a supine. —Mahāgaja · talk 07:22, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Makes sense. It should also be mentioned that for intransitive verbs, the future active participle is used instead; hence, "ambulo, ambulare, ambulavi, ambulaturus." Johnny Shiz (talk) 20:42, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Latin verbs in etymologies of other languages

 * this section could be made more general. Often I see etymology sections of modern Romance-language nouns that take the modern form back to the Latin accusative instead of the lemma nominative (e.g. "from Latin patrem" instead of "from Latin pater"). So we do need to say that the "lemma from lemma" principle holds for nouns too. That said, however, I feel like there could be a few exceptions. For example, I'd be in favor of explicitly pointing out that comes from the accusative, if only because monosyllabic accusative singulars are so rare in Latin, and this is one of the few cases where the nasal at the end of the Latin word actually survives (in the form of a nasalized vowel) in the modern language. Also, in cases like , , and , it could be worth pointing out that the modern lemma form exceptionally comes from the Latin nominative, not the accusative as usual. —Mahāgaja · talk 07:20, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, we can note the exceptions when applicable. —Rua (mew) 11:18, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

 * What about providing non-lemma forms but linking to the lemma forms? E. g. . Ain92 (talk) 12:26, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I dislike that because it seems to violate both the spirit of the "lemma from lemma" principle and the principle of least astonishment (if I click on a link that says "exigere" I don't expect to be taken to "exigo"). —Mahāgaja · talk 12:30, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Neither do I discern a lemma from lemma principle nore is it astonishing to click on a citation form and land on another citation form (Latin verbs have four citation forms one seeks anyway, Arabic ones two …). Fay Freak (talk) 12:48, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Allowing macrons in quotations
I consider the rules stated on this page quite antiquated. In my opinion, an ideal Wiktionary Latin entry would have fully macronised quotations, at least for non-Medieval works. A prohibition on macrons seems very unproductive; while discussions on their usefulness have been had before, I propose that the use of macrons be made optional. This is a dictionary, after all—a lexicographic resource, and it were ideal to offer readers the maximum amount of help in an entry. ―Biolongvistul (talk) 10:57, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * It is indeed. Now we add stress marks to Russian texts which didn’t have it (so dictionary users can partake of native Russian speakers knowledge of the complicated patterns) and we vocalize Arabic quotations. And texts from antiquity are always manipulated for modern readership anyway. Fay Freak (talk) 12:53, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Laxening other orthographic rules for quotations
Several years ago other medieval/renaissance/early modern diacritics were prohibited in quotations, but in 2015 creating such forms were allowed, how are they supposed to be illustrated? Demanding orthographically normalized quotations doesn't make any sense there, and indeed have been breaking these rules in cõfundantur etc. Ain92 (talk) 14:18, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Admittedly, I had not entirely familiarised myself with the regulations when I created that entry, as well as others of words scribally abbreviated; it was a mistake on my part to neglect to do so, instead merely following the language-wide guidelines set out in WT:QUOTE. I will try to fix the quotations in these in accordance with current rules best as can be done, but I very much agree with you in that not allowing the rendering of quotes with scribal abbreviations makes little sense when it seemingly makes impossible the unique examplification in citation of many apparently permissible entries' terms. —Desacc̱oinṯier 14:56, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Of course if your point is to show abbreviations then it is totally cromulent to go the whole hog and transcribe the text diplomatically; the policy page is an incomplete think tank. But the main issue is that Unicode is not quite apt for computerizing abbreviations. And for the page itself, nobody will ever search such Unicode encodings online therefore. Fay Freak (talk)

Vowel length on entries prefixed with in-
As of late I've noticed a number of pages which all have the same error, Latin words prefixed with in- have their initial vowel lengthened to īn- as I've seen them I've been correcting them to in- after verifying them against Lewis and Short's and the Oxford Latin Dictionary. I don't know if this is a user who is accidently contributing this error or a bot. Most recent page I corrected was insurgo. While I can spot them instantly, just knowing they look off, any inexperienced Latinist could easily be mislead here. The most recent edit correcting the page is from my IP, I usually look up entries in incognito mode since I'm checking 100s of words a night for my projects. What's the best course of action here?

 * Found the culprit "update macrons in la-adj-form: if before two cons, per Bennett corrected by Allen/Michelson; update macrons in inflection of: if before two cons, per Bennett corrected by Allen/Michelson" the long vowel before two consonants doesn't apply in these situations, since in- is a prefix, so and there are many other exceptions as well, just had to fix infestō from īnfēstō, both Lewis and Short and the Oxford Latin Dictionary confirm this is incorrect. Can these changes be mass reversed?
 * who says the prefix in- doesn't have a lengthened vowel before s and f? You can't check with L&S or the OLD because neither of them marks long vowels before two consonants, such as and, which both dictionaries write without a macron. Langenscheidt, OTOH, does write macrons on  and  – but also on  and  (in the latter case adding "(ē?)" as the editors are uncertain whether the e was short or long in this word). —Mahāgaja · talk 06:46, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You have miscorrected these entries. The prefix in- did have a long vowel when attached to a base starting in f- or s-; see this quote from Cicero, which is mentioned in a number of grammars or pronunciation guides such as W. Sidney Allen's Vox Latina: https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Latin_Language/UHFiAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22litterae+sunt+quae+in+sapiente+atque+felice%22&pg=PA136&printsec=frontcover --Urszag (talk) 07:21, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, yes, I see that now. Oxford has proven themselves to be lazy enough to misguide me. Thank you for the update.

Welcome to the website. I don't think it's fair to blame the OLD when they say in the preface that "Normally only long vowels in a metrically indeterminate position are marked". I'm afraid you were simply too rash and didn't take the time to determine the cause of the disagreement. It's all the more evident because the first thing you corrected was, when the vowel length is clearly visible from oblique forms; that this word is marked short in the OLD regardless should have been a smoking gun. I think it's important to recognise this so that the next time this happens, you make sure there's no mistake on your part before you suspect it on the part of other editors. I've reverted your edits; please let me know if some edits were made from a different IP so that I could revert them too. Btw, please don't forget to sign your posts by typing 4 tildes (~), cheers. Brutal Russian (talk) 22:51, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I think it's pretty fair to blame the institution which worked on a book for over 50 years to do the whole "You shoulda known" thing, I find it lazy to purposefully leave out information and leave it to the purchaser to know the difference. I really wasn't trying to act rashly, checking two separate dictionaries before I modified anything. The fact that multiple dictionaries purposely leave out information is all the more alarming. I thought I could rely on such texts, but they're proving more and more unreliable as time goes on. I think macrons are more important than ever with schools often neglecting them entirely. Which is part of the project that I'm currently working on. Most edits I've ever are made from this IP, which is my place of work. ColinJParry (talk) 23:32, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Don't you entertain the possibility that they did it very very consciously? I mean, it's an academic dictionary. Look at the list of editors. What might the reasons be? I think it's evident that they chose to include only those macrons that had been established with certainty, with the aim at making the dictionary error-free and future-proof.1 One has to only take a look at L&S to see the effects of the opposite approach; even on this website these are far from all being sorted out. That said, Gaffiot 2016 and LaNe still include them. These are the two most reliable dictionaries in that regard, by the way, short of consulting De Vaan 2008. You can find both on Logeion.
 * 1: Excluding them from endings like -īx is probably a mechanical consequence of this; even so it's visible from the oblique stem, which is given immediately after.
 * p.s.: Yay for anyone who supports educating people on the correct pronunciation of Latin, and macrons as a virtually inescapable aid in its acquisition. Brutal Russian (talk) 23:51, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Of course they did it "on purpose" I'm still greatly annoyed with it, I think that line of thinking, the "they should know" as a bit of typical British academic snobbery to it. But now I'm seeing this indignātiō should it not be indīgnātiō then? If so, this is why I'm so incredibly frustrated at this point. Because I've now got 3 incorrect dictionaries to work with. I'll look at those you pointed out, but there is a serious lack of macronized materials, I'm actually trying to produce Latin texts with macrons, and I'm coming to fear that nothing is reliable at this point.
 * I wanted to retort that I was reliable, but then remembered that my opinion is subject to change =D Complete agreement on all the lengths is impossible for a language that's no longer directly attestable (no speakers), and the indirect attestations can and are interpreted in various ways. That apparent, epigraphically- and one-grammarian-attested lengthening before gn, for instance, has to my knowledge left absolutely no trace in Romance. It might have existed in some specific sociolect that's left no trace; I think we've been leaving it out, sometimes even in those cases which might have been original . If I find more theoretical substantiation for this, I might change those. Neither Gaffiot 2016 nor LaNe marks them as long, however. Here's a webpage you can sometimes turn to for evidence, but not necessarily for conclusions (which your bot culprit was implementing). As for the OLD, again, I don't believe they were thinking of anything like "they should know". I believe they were thinking "we don't know and there's no Brutal Russian to help us out" xP Brutal Russian (talk) 00:35, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, I appreciate the confidence and resources, which I'll use when I can. I was confused about the -gnus -a -um, and had to reread the paragraph a couple times. And while I understand your forgiveness of the producers of the OLD, I have read every entry, and there are 469 (out of 39,589) entries that are left untranslated and more that are given an incomplete or lackluster translation, such as "fellator" simply being "A type of sexual pervert" or similar. So, to get it straight, you view Gaffiot 2016 and LaNe as the most reliable, I noticed Lewis did have the macrons for the word in question, but was the only one that did.
 * > I have read every entry [...] (out of 39,589) O___O *jaw hits floor*
 * Yes, I noticed that some of these words' meanings were left to the reader's imagination - but all the untranslated words I've seen were defined in the Latin quotation. Lewis is the Elementary Lewis and Short, either from 1890 or corrected a couple of decades later. It reflects the same then-current discoveries and views as found in the scholarly works from that era quoted by the Alatius page (Bennet, Marx). In essence, it included all the newly-postulated longs from recent literature, and in some cases ended up overshooting as compared with the current consensus. The OLD was apparently being conceived shortly after that, while the debate on several of those issues continued for decades after, not to mention the ones that still can't be decided. With enough information and with the L&S being clearly outdated in that regard already by the start of its writing, the OLD editors' decision is understandable. —The two dictionaries I recommend are from the last decade; if in doubt, go with LaNe. Brutal Russian (talk) 00:03, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I may know someone who, while reading all 39,589 Lexical Entries in the OLD, typed them up in an excel spreadsheet because he was tired of there being no real quickly searchable English-Latin dictionary available. Who, also may or may not have written a Vulgar Latin Dictionary of all the filthiest words in Latin, with gems such as oppedo -ere (+ dat.) to fart in the face of... ColinJParry (talk) 01:56, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

title: Wiktionary talk:About Latin


text: 学而优则仕

title: 学而优则仕


text:
學而優則仕

Etymology
From the Analects, Book 19 (《論語·子張》):

Proverb

 * 1) The student, having completed his studies, should enter into government service.

Usage notes
學而優則仕 is both a proverb and a chengyu.

title: 學而優則仕


text: hooks

title: hooks


text: 战绩

title: 战绩


text:
戰績

Noun

 * 1)  military exploits; combat gains
 * 2)  sports ranking

Noun

 * 1) war record, military achievements

title: 戰績


text: 据理力争

title: 据理力争


text:
據理力爭

Idiom

 * 1) to argue vigorously on the basis of sound reason or justice

title: 據理力爭


text:
calmer

Noun

 * 1) A person or thing that calms.
 * Christ was the calmer of a storm on the Sea of Galilee.

Etymology
From, or possibly from.

Verb

 * 1)  to calm, pacify, soothe
 * 2)  to calm down, abate, subside

title: calmer


text: 据实

title: 据实


text:
據實

Adverb

 * 1) according to the facts

title: 據實


text:
cutchery

Noun

 * 1)  administration office

Noun

 * 1) A spice: kitchery.
 * 2) An Indian dish of rice boiled with split pulse, onions, eggs, butter, and condiments
 * 3)  dish of fish, rice and eggs

Translations

 * Imdonesian: kentjoer

title: cutchery


text:
dvärg

Etymology
From, from , from.

Noun

 * 1)  dwarf (any member of a race of beings from Germanic folklore)
 * 2)  dwarf, midget (a person of short stature)

title: dvärg


text:
kääpiö

Etymology
Probably.

Noun

 * 1) midget, dwarf
 * Lumikki ja seitsemän kääpiötä
 * Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
 * 1)  dwarf star, dwarf

title: kääpiö


text: Category:Berber languages

title: Category:Berber languages


text:
डील

Etymology
, from.

Noun

 * 1) bulk, size, stature, body

Etymology
From, from.

Noun

 * 1) body

title: डील


text: Category:Indo-Aryan languages

title: Category:Indo-Aryan languages


text: hostesses

title: hostesses


text: hoaxes

title: hoaxes


text:
hoaxing

Noun

 * 1) The perpetration of a hoax.

title: hoaxing


text: Category:Turkic languages

title: Category:Turkic languages


text: Category:Dravidian languages

title: Category:Dravidian languages


text: Category:Languages of India

title: Category:Languages of India


text: 横眉竖眼

title: 横眉竖眼


text:
橫眉豎眼

Idiom

 * 1) to have a dirty look on one's face; to give someone a dirty look

title: 橫眉豎眼


text:
Toomas

Proper noun

 * 1) Thomas

title: Toomas


text: 树倒猢狲散

title: 树倒猢狲散


text:
樹倒猢猻散

Proverb

 * 1)  When a leader loses power, his/her followers disperse.

title: 樹倒猢猻散


text: Category:Austroasiatic languages

title: Category:Austroasiatic languages


text:
alkenone

Noun

 * 1)  Any unsaturated aliphatic ketone
 * 2)  Any long-chain di-, tri- and tetra- unsaturated methyl and ethyl ketones that are synthesized by a limited number of haptophyte microalgae; the degree of unsaturation is a function of the water temperature

Related terms

 * alkanone

title: alkenone


text:
microalga

Noun

 * 1) Any of many microscopic photosynthetic protists, often living as single cells and floating as plankton.

Translations

 * French: ,
 * Italian: microalga
 * Norwegian:
 * Bokmål: mikroalge
 * Nynorsk: mikroalge

Etymology
From.

Etymology
From.

title: microalga


text:
macroalga

Noun

 * 1) Large algae, often living attached in dense beds, such as kelp.

title: macroalga


text: 树欲静而风不止

title: 树欲静而风不止


text:
樹欲靜而風不止

Etymology
Literally: The tree may prefer calm but the wind keeps blowing.

Proverb

 * 1) The objective laws often go counter to man's desires.

title: 樹欲靜而風不止


text:
Category talk:German words affected by 1996 spelling reform

Should this be 1996 or 1998? — Hippietrail 00:21, 26 September 2006 (UTC)


text: 机不可失，时不再来

title: 机不可失，时不再来


text:
vieren

Etymology 1
From, from , from.

Verb

 * 1) to celebrate

Etymology 2
. Possibly from ; see. Or, possibly related to sense 1 in the sense of "letting go." A third possibility is.

Verb

 * 1) to let loose, to let go

Etymology
From, from.

Verb

 * 1) to celebrate (a religious holiday), to fulfill the duties of a holiday
 * 2) to take rest to celebrate
 * 3) to rest, to take vacation
 * 4) to rest, to wait, to delay

title: vieren


text:
機不可失，時不再來

Proverb

 * 1) Opportunity seldom knocks twice.

title: 機不可失，時不再來


text:
haptophyte

Noun

 * 1)  A kind of unicellular marine phytoplankton, typically covered in tiny scales or plates composed of carbohydrates and calcium deposits

Related terms

 * haptophytic

title: haptophyte


text:
Talk:AG

What does AG usually used after a company's name mean?
 * See the German entry.

UN Code proposal
I propose we add AG=Antigua and Barbuda. Thecurran 22:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

title: Talk:AG


text:
haptonema

Etymology
From +.

Noun

 * 1) In haptophytes, a peg-like organelle attached near the flagella and unique to the group. May function in attachment, feeding, or avoidance responses.

Translations

 * French:

title: haptonema


text: brebenei

title: brebenei


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title: User:Connel MacKenzie/list b


text:
chokolad

Noun

 * 1) chocolate

title: chokolad


text:
xocolata

Etymology
, from.

Noun

 * 1) chocolate food derived from cocoa beans

title: xocolata


text:
巧克力

Etymology
Borrowed from, originally used in Shanghainese. .

Noun

 * 1) chocolate

title: 巧克力


text:
Thesaurus talk:worship

Move this info to Appendix:Religions? bd2412 T 01:28, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

title: Thesaurus talk:worship


text:
suklaa

Etymology
Borrowed from, from , from , from.

Noun

 * 1) chocolate

title: suklaa


text:
csokoládé

Etymology
Via and, from , possibly from.

Noun

 * 1) chocolate food made from ground roasted cocoa beans

title: csokoládé


text:
チョコレート

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) chocolate

title: チョコレート


text:
초콜릿

Etymology
From, from from.

Noun

 * 1) chocolate

title: 초콜릿


text:
šokoladas

Noun

 * 1) chocolate

title: šokoladas


text:
ciocolată

Etymology
. Compare 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) chocolate

Usage notes
Plural ciocolăți is common, but proscribed.

title: ciocolată


text:
theïsme

Noun

 * 1) theism

Noun

 * 1) theism

title: theïsme


text:
шоколад

Noun

 * 1) chocolate

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) chocolate

Etymology
Borrowed from, from , from , from , from a word.

Noun

 * 1) chocolate

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) chocolate

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  chocolate

Etymology
Originally and, borrowed from. The form was borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) chocolate
 * 2)  luxury, success, fortune
 * 1)  luxury, success, fortune

Etymology
from, via and.

Noun

 * 1) chocolate

title: шоколад


text:
théisme

Etymology 1
Probably borrowed from, itself derived from and.

Etymology 2
From.

title: théisme