Cinnamon 28 Jan 2008 09:18  1. The attack in Muegeln was Indians vs. gays, and one of the Indians seriously injured a German guy with a bottle. Btw, the Indians started the fight because two men were dancing. And if the Germans were that terribly racist -- do you think that 50 real Nazis would have left anyone alive in a fight? What you got was 50 drunk German villagers who had their village party ruined by immigrant homophobes who then claimed 'nazi bonus' as a 'get out of jail free card'. Btw, the Indian guy who bottled the German is going to jail, as the only seriously violent offender in this affair. (in other words, what he did was no self-defense but an attack)2. German Neo-Nazi attacks mainly are verbal, because racist remarks are counted like attacks. Also, Afghanis with a German Passport attacking Rabbis (as seen in Frankfurt) also are counted as 'Neo-Nazis' in the statistics, due to the way the data is collected. I'm not excusing verbal violence, but the physical violence to the level you're suggesting just isn't happening -- Neo-Nazis commit a fraction of the violent offenses that Immigrants commit. 3. 80% of hardcore child criminals in Berlin and Hamburg are of Arab or Turkish descend. They serially commit robberies where children, women and pensioners get stabbed, kicked and racially insulted (Scheissdeutscher, Kartoffel, Deutsche Nutte, etc).No-one has anything against Turks or Greeks(btw, the 'Greek' in the Pensioner attack was of Turkish descend, hence the 'teamwork') but kicking a pensioner into a bloody pulp for politely asking them not to smoke in the tube, where it's banned anyway, and then crowing that the pensioner had it coming to him because he is a German... that is racism. Nearly every week we have such a case, where an old person is attacked (a 83-year old lady was knifed 2 days ago) by an immigrant, not to mention what happens to German children who often get bullied and robbed by racist immigrant gangs their own age. Don't you dare to put a moral equivalence here -- all violence and racism is bad, period. Don't try to make out that Mr.Koch is a nasty populist because he raised an issue that so far has been kept under wraps, mainly because it is it difficult for Germans to accept that they too can be victims of racism. Google the word 'Abziehen' and you'll see that most of the robberies against Germans by Turks have a racist background. Btw, the robbery figures of Germans robbing Turks are ...? (close to zero. What does this tell you?)The immigrant racists who cuss at Germans as potatoes, unbelievers, prostitute, shit-germans, 'opfer' (yes, victim is a turkish abusive term for Germans, go figure) are birds of one feather with the rightwing German neo-nazis. Many of the Turks who attack Germans in Germany are Grey Wolf followers, which as you may recall is the Turkish Nazi party, and for them, a German is just as much of a lowlife as a Jew or a Kurdish PKK member. (the Kurdish PKK is also quite the racist org, but eh)What I want to know is, why one kind of nazi is move likable in your eyes than the other one?Btw, why didn't you show the black victims of Turkish violence in German? There are quite a few of them, but because Turks, and not German Neo-nazis crippled them, they are 'not a topic' for the press. And what of the violent guys themselves? What do you think they do when they get home? Where do you think the violence is learnt? Yes, in their family -- Turkish children get brutal beating by their fathers, and women suffer a high level of domestic violence -- 50% of all Turkish woman will get a beating from their husband in Germany. So what is more racist -- point out racist violence and plan to stop it in all it's forms, or, gloss over the issue, call the victims racists (or unlucky) and leave the perpetrators to inflict more damage on everyone else, including their own family?
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