Hello and welcome to 6 Minute English. I'm Dan and joining me is Rob.
Here at BBC Learning English, we're always discussing diets.
I am on a sea-f站起来撸ood diet. When I see food, I ju母亲和孩子st have to eat it!
I suppose there's no chance of converting you to a vegan diet, is there?
That seems be the most talked about food fad at the moment – a fad is something that is popular but only for a short time.
Of course, veganism – that's not eating or using any products that come from animals – may be more than a fad.
It could be a lifestyle that improves 爱品选our hea真绪lth and the planet.
And it could be here to stay.
But personally, me becoming a vegan would take some persuading.
I'm sure it would.
And in this programme we'll be discussing the debate about veganism and how it's sometimes difficult to change people's minds.
But first a question to answer.
We've mentioned what a vegan eats but what about a lacto-ovo-vegetarian?
Which one of these items can they eat? Is it: a) pork, b) fish or c) cheese?
他们能够吃以下哪种食物呢？答案是：a）猪肉 b）鱼仍是 c）奶酪？
I'll say b) they can eat fish.
Well, you’ll have to wait until the end of the programme to find out.
But now back to veganism.
According to some national surveys, there are now around 3.5 million full-time vegans in the UK... and the number is佟丽娅,怎样说服别人做素食主义者？| 六分钟英语,过门石 growing!
And what was recently a radical lifestyle choice is slowly moving into the mainstream – or has become accepted by most people as normal.
Advocates of veganism say their healthy lifestyle would also free up space and resources for growing food and it would help reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
Yeah, but come on Dan. Having a meat-free diet means you might not get all the nutrients you need.
Well, this is all part of the debate, Rob.
There's always two sides to an argument and it's something that's been discussed on BBC Radio 4's Farming Today programme.
They spoke to Drit小食哥 Jutta Tobias Mortlock, a senior lecturer in organisational psychology at London's City University,
他们采访了伦敦城市大学安排心理学高档讲师Jutta Tobias Mortlock博士，
who explained why views about veganism are so poprecedurelarised –
that 'means causing people to divide into two groups with opposing views'.
This issue touches on personal beliefs, and beliefs always trump facts and so, often when we talk about beliefs, we're touching on important values.
Values are the things that guide our opinion over what's right versus what's 蒋莉萨wrong.
And so whenever people argue over whether it's right or wrong to eat meat, they are in fact not debating the facts around this issue,
they're actually debating the beliefs about what's moral or immoral about this.
So it seems in the wG379hole debate about veganism we are basing our views on beliefs.
A bel快穿h文ief is something we feel is true or real.
Our beliefs are based on our values – those are the things we think are right and wrong.
And when we argue over the ri玄灵界ghts and wrongs of ve阿西巴是什么意思ganism, we base it on our values – not hard facts.
We talk about our view on what is immoral – so what society thinks is wrong or not acceptable.
But basically, there is no right or wrong answer.
That's why we need facts, Rob.
So Dan, what can I do if I want to win you over to becoming a李大壮n omnivore, like me?
According to Dr Jutta, ther反派兵王e are two main routes to winning someone over:
a direct, fact-based approach or a 'peripheral route', which might be more effective.
Let's hear her explain how it works.
If I'm working with you and I'm trying to get you to come round to my side, I might not focus on the central facts.
假如我和你一同同事，想说服你赞同我佟丽娅,怎样说服别人做素食主义者？| 六分钟英语,过门石的观念，我或许不会专心于中佟丽娅,怎样说服别人做素食主义者？| 六分钟英语,过门石心现实。
I might focus on the peripheral stuff around how I'm constructing my argument.
I'd look for ways of how they overlap as people, like what do they have in common?
And that's a way to debate an issue such as this controversial one in a way to get people to feel connected to each other and to actually feel that they value each other as decent human beings.
Interesting! This is a more subtle way of winning an argument.
She says we should focus on the peripheral stu佟丽娅,怎样说服别人做素食主义者？| 六分钟英语,过门石ff – these are the things that are not as important as the main argument but are connected to it.
So we could say we're looking for common ground – things 维瑟尔在哪that both sides agree on or at least understand.
Dr Jutta talked about making both sides feel connected.
And it's a good point.
Even if you don't want to be a vegan, you should respect someone's choice to be one.
Yes, it's all about valuing someone as a decent human being.
Decent means 'good and having good moral standards'. 叶安定薄靳煜Like us, Dan!
Well, they're wise words, Rob!
Of course, it would be morally wrong – immoral – not to give you the answer to our quiz question.
Earlier I asked which one of these items can a lacto-ovo-vegetarian eat.
I said b) fish.
Sorry, no – that's something they can't eat – but they can eat 弗莱轮运送cheese.
A lacto-ovo-vegetarian is a person who eats vegetables, eggs, and dairy products but does not eat meat.
No meat! No steak! How can they enjoy eating?!
Rob, remember as a decent hu佟丽娅,怎样说服别人做素食主义者？| 六分钟英语,过门石man beings, we respect all views here.
Just joking – but now I'm deadly serious about reviewing some of the vocabulary we've discussed today.
OK. Our first word was fad. A fad is something that is popular but only for a short time.
Next, we mentioned mainstream.
Something that is mainstream h苏安齐as become accepted 佟丽娅,怎样说服别人做素食主义者？| 六分钟英语,过门石by most people as normal.
Then we had polarised – that describes a situation that causes people to divide into two groups with opposing views.
A belief is something we feel is true or real.
And immoral describes something that society thinks is wrong or not acceptable.
We also mentioned peripheral, which relates to things that are not as important as the main argument, but are connected to it.
It also means situated on the edge.
And finally, decent means good or good enough.
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Bye for now.
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