Q: What did Project Manager think of the manual design when discussing the ease of use?
Text: Marketing: Great man . Who starts ?
Project Manager: Well I'll uh start just with another presentation , so then we can uh look at th at the agenda uh for this meeting .
Marketing: Alright , great . Alright .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay . I've put some uh new things in the in the map .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Uh oh . {vocalsound} This is it . I don't know the shortcut , so {disfmarker} Ah F_ five . Well our functional design meeting , that's the stage we're in .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Project Manager: And you also ha all three of you have uh prepared something about it .
Marketing: Yes .
Project Manager: Well um in we'll uh just have a look at the at the notes from the previous meeting , what we uh thought we had dec decided . But uh {disfmarker} Uh then we'll uh look at uh the three uh presentations uh from you . I think you have prepared uh all three uh ? {vocalsound}
Marketing: 'Kay .
Industrial Designer: Well , yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Um we'll look at th the new project requirements we uh {disfmarker} I dunno . Y you also have uh received that mail , the new project requirements from our bosses ?
Industrial Designer: No . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Oh I've received a mail with uh some additional requirements ,
Marketing: No . You're the only one . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: and I'll have a look if {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Oh .
Marketing: Alright .
Project Manager: Well I think we should show them before your presentations , because it's not really uh smart uh to uh to include some things uh we can't , because of the new requirements . Well um then we can make some decisions about our remote control functions .
Marketing: 'Kay .
Project Manager: We have to deb we have to decide it in this meeting what our function will be . And then uh we can discuss uh some more closely . Uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: We have forty minutes for this uh discussion ?
Project Manager: Uh yeah , I think so . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Project Manager: Well uh {gap} the closing uh we'll not uh look at it yet .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Alright .
Project Manager: Um {vocalsound} now I'll look at {gap} show {gap} this board . Um {disfmarker} Well uh notes , first meeting . Now . I gave a disc a a presentation . Uh we familiarised ourself with the boards and then we discussed some first ideas . So we said that uh we have to merge the strong points from our uh competitors , and uh look at their uh remote controls .
Marketing: Right .
Project Manager: We should make it uh compatible with our new D_V_D_ and other releases we have , our technical releases .
Industrial Designer: Huh ?
Project Manager: Uh not too many one buttons . One recognisable button in the middle , where you do the most important functions with . And um well they can have two functions , because uh you have a D_V_D_ and a television .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: Um the design has to fit the hand , be original , but also be familiar . {vocalsound} It's uh one of our ideas .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah well that wa It's just thirty minutes ago ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: so it's not quite uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} But well I have to do it .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm , now it's right .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: The materials uh well should be hard plastic with rubber from {gap} , and uh well the labelling of the buttons should be indestructible . It should be uh recognisable at all times .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: It's meant to be easily wiped out , yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yes .
User Interface: Mm .
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: Well fronts were to be {gap} just like mobile telephones . And uh the technical aspects um {disfmarker} And also labelling of the buttons , the functions should be universal standards . Well that's just uh some ideas from the first meeting . It's quite logical al all of it .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Um now the new project requirements , I'll just show them . I got this mail from uh our bosses . Well , teletext goes out . We will not use teletext .
User Interface: Oh .
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: Maybe a new sort of thing , but n but not teletext .
Industrial Designer: I I disagree , but uh it's not uh t it's not my place to disagree I guess .
Project Manager: Well {disfmarker} the second is a bit sh pity because we just said we wanted to d include the D_V_D_
User Interface: Oh .
Project Manager: and they don't want it , because of our time we have for this project .
Marketing: Alright .
Industrial Designer: Oh , alright .
User Interface: Oh , that's a shame .
Project Manager: So that's a shame , because uh especially for the third requirement we want to reach people under the thirty years . Because uh we don't have those customers a lot at th at this point . Um well it's a bit pity because it's just those people want to have uh one remote control for all those technical devices they can uh reach it .
Marketing: Yeah . But let's forget about it . It's just time-consuming ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: so we uh have to go on .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Well and uh our corporate image should stay rec recognisable in our products . So uh we have to uh use uh maybe a slogan , maybe a colour , and um {disfmarker} Yeah well uh on our remote controls the design has to be uh , well as we already said a actually , uh familiar . Uh not only just uh the shape but also our company .
Marketing: Yes .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , we are a {vocalsound} real fashionable company . I read uh I read it on the {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound} Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I didn't know what company we were ,
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: but we we design uh especially trendy uh trendy trendy stuff .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah . Okay .
Industrial Designer: So it has to be uh a modern design . That's important to know , uh when you design a thing of course .
Project Manager: Yes . I I uh noted uh our uh slogan that we have , our company . It's uh we mm put the fashion in electronics .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: So maybe that's a slogan we can put uh somewhere on our remote control or something .
Marketing: Right .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Alright then um we're going to uh have three presentations .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: You want to start ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound} I think I have to start .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Oh you have to start ? I didn't see anything about uh who had to start .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} The order ? No . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Oh no , no problem .
Project Manager: Well s then start .
User Interface: Mm .
Marketing: I I just have to uh to think which file's mine ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: 'cause I was uh bit in a hurry .
Project Manager: Okay . Well uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: I think it's this one . But I'm not sure . {gap}
Project Manager: {gap} You already uh opened uh PowerPoint .
Marketing: Hmm ? Yeah . S Right .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yes . This is it .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Well , I'm going to tell you something about functional requirements .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Um to start with these points . Uh next sheet ? Um at first I tell you something about what people dislike about the current uh controls , because it's uh a smart thing to exclude those things . Uh , furthermore it's very important what they do like and what they do use . {vocalsound} Um then I tell something about um the most important issues . So we have to focus on those three thing three things . And in the end I'll um show you our target {vocalsound} audience or our target product users , customers . Well , {vocalsound} um the first findings are that people um think most controls are very kind of ug ugly .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: That's seventy five per cent of the current users . They don't like it , so we might think about fronts in that section . Um {disfmarker} They also say , that's about uh I thought it was fifty per cent , uh that more money will be spent on uh better looking controls . So it's very important that you design a a nice looking control . {vocalsound} Um the current user uses his machine just about well all of the time for a few functions . Uh , almost every user uses it d the the control for just ten per cent of its capacity . So it's really important to make the the buttons for the common uh tasks kind of big or kind of uh flashy . Furthermore , it's uh {vocalsound} seventy five per cent of the users uh zaps a lot . Thus it might be uh might be smart to make a a big uh zapping button or something in the middle , so you can reach it with your thumb .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} You can zap away . Yeah . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , yeah right .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Right . A lot of losers um users lose their controls in their {vocalsound} in their living room .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: So it might be sensible to make some kind of a button on your television , that's your um your control beeps or something , that you can find this very easily .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: I dunno , maybe that's an idea .
Industrial Designer: Oh .
Marketing: 'Cause it's uh a big {disfmarker} I think fifty per cent of the users loses his its control , within the same room .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Oh ?
Project Manager: It should actually uh {disfmarker} It should actually be loose from the television ,
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: because it can also be used for other televisions . So if you deliver a small uh click-on device that you can put on your television , that bleeps to your remote control , everyone can use it .
Marketing: Yeah but what if you lose your click-on device ?
Project Manager: No you can click it on your television .
Marketing: Yeah but if someone d somebody else uses it in ano other room or something ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah in another room , yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Well yes .
Marketing: Nee but it it specifically says it's uh the the control is lost in the same room .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: So {disfmarker} Well a beeping device would be {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well we'll have a look at it , yeah .
Marketing: Uh furthermore the learning time is a problem . Uh thirty four thirty four per cent um thinks it's it's too uh too difficult to learn . So the the learning curve should be very short uh for the dumbest people should be able to use it .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I think our uh user uh expert should also consider manual a manual for the remote , of course . Uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah but people don't read manuals .
Industrial Designer: I didn't read it ?
User Interface: No .
Industrial Designer: Oh , alright .
Marketing: No .
Industrial Designer: {gap} users to uh add one ? Do you think ?
User Interface: I don't think {disfmarker}
Marketing: I think you should put more time in the in the design of uh pick up and use , than a manual .
User Interface: Yeah . Yes you should {disfmarker} You should could take a look at it and and and know how it how it's supposed to work . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Yep .
Industrial Designer: Yeah alright . Because they don't use it ? Alright .
Project Manager: Well there sh should always be a menu ,
Marketing: Yeah . Right .
Project Manager: but it c can be very short .
Marketing: And it should be consistent with consistent with older remotes .
User Interface: Yeah but nobody reads a manual about a remote control , I think .
Project Manager: Yes okay .
Industrial Designer: Well maybe for the {disfmarker} If you don't recognise a button who d who d who do I call uh wh when I don't know it ?
Marketing: Alright .
User Interface: Yeah right . It sh it should be there , the manual . But but not to explain how the remote works . Only {disfmarker} {gap}
Marketing: And we don't have much time . So it's better to uh put our attention to the the design . So you can pick up and use it , than {disfmarker} I think .
Project Manager: Well we are a design team ,
User Interface: Hmm .
Project Manager: we can say to some uh writer uh make a manual point .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Isn't it part of the of the u
Marketing: Yeah right , right .
Project Manager: So
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: No . No . Never mind .
Project Manager: Well we'll have a look . Um yes ?
Marketing: Next point . Um R_S_I_ .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Well that's about twenty per cent I thought . But uh the designer should uh take it uh {vocalsound} should uh {disfmarker} Wie zeg ik dat ? Yeah , consider the consequences of using your remote .
Industrial Designer: Consider the m Yeah .
Marketing: It should be a good in your hand . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Yep .
Marketing: Right , this is the most important part . Um , we're {disfmarker} Like the requirements said , we're gonna specify of we're gonna target a younger audience . Um , {vocalsound} that's about sixty per cent of the market , so it's uh quite important . Um research shows that they like to have a little L_C_D_ screen on their on their uh zapping uh device . Uh {disfmarker} I thought it was the age between sixteen and twenty , ninety nine per cent of uh the people like that .
Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
Marketing: So it's very important we should definitely have that in our uh designs .
Project Manager: Well with twelve Euro fifty as production cost , we can't uh afford an L_C_D_ uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: It's going to be expensive . Yeah .
User Interface: No .
Marketing: Yeah but {vocalsound} they think it's really important .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: So if we want to s If we have a big {disfmarker} {vocalsound} If we make lots of uh of the stuff , maybe we can uh buy it very cheap , I dunno . We have to uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Well we'll uh consider it uh .
Project Manager: Yeah well uh it's your your task to uh look into the costs uh of those uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: We'll think abo we'll think {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , I don't know . I don't have any information on that . So {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Nigh
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I know . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: No , we'll look we'll look into that later . Alright ?
Marketing: Right . And uh another thing is uh speech uh recognition . They also like that ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: but research is very uh costly . So {disfmarker}
User Interface: I think that's uh difficult to realise also .
Marketing: Yeah , but {vocalsound} it {vocalsound} it might be important for the sale .
Industrial Designer: We have very demanding clients .
Project Manager: It's not yet a standard uh development uh those so {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound} No and we have customers in multiple uh countries I think .
Project Manager: We sh
Marketing: Well I do think L_C_D_ is more reachable than the speech recognition .
Project Manager: Yeah absolutely .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: So we might consider L_C_D_ screens .
User Interface: {vocalsound} No .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah , alright . Well we'll consider both and and see what uh what what we can find , I think .
Project Manager: Yep .
Industrial Designer: We don't rule them out uh yet .
Marketing: Alright .
Project Manager: {gap} 'Kay .
Marketing: Alright . Um , I think that's it . Um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Alright .
Marketing: I think it is sensible to u uh to take this take these points into the notes .
Project Manager: Yes .
Marketing: So you can {disfmarker} Right .
Project Manager: Well you {disfmarker} I c I can uh still see your presentation .
Marketing: Yeah . Right .
Project Manager: It's in the {disfmarker} Well uh next um I dunno who is next .
User Interface: Oh you go .
Industrial Designer: Shall I give a technical talk ?
Project Manager: Yes .
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Project Manager: Well go ahead . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Well uh it is my task to uh explain uh or to point out a working design .
Project Manager: Yip .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} We have that here . Okay , how do you enlarge it , so that you can have the {disfmarker}
Project Manager: F_ five .
Industrial Designer: F_ F_ five .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} F_ five .
Industrial Designer: Yep .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Well , the working design ,
Marketing: Alright .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: that's my uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Next button . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Well alright uh , you know who I am and what I do . So uh we have this . It's a bit uh unclear because I wanted to copy paste something . It was originally in black and white
Marketing: Oh right .
Industrial Designer: but it became black and purple .
Marketing: Purple {vocalsound} .
Industrial Designer: But I think you can read it .
User Interface: {vocalsound} {gap}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , yeah , yeah . A bit .
Industrial Designer: Um well um I think it's important uh for you to realise the basic function of a remote control . Uh well you can see uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Maybe you can select it . So it uh inverts .
Industrial Designer: {gap} And I then can select I can select on the dings {gap} It goes to the next page .
Marketing: {gap} the p the whole picture .
Project Manager: Click . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Nah , uh never mind .
Industrial Designer: Well , you can read it ,
User Interface: Yeah , go ahead .
Industrial Designer: it's not too difficult . Meanwhile , this is a schematic uh um view of uh how a basic remote control works . You have uh basically uh the energy , the power of the of the remote control , uh and the sender , w which is the LED , the the the the the the the the the bulb that sends the the infrared beam to the , no , to the set .
Marketing: Yeah . Alright .
Industrial Designer: And uh the source is of course the user . Uh the user interface is um {vocalsound} uh the {vocalsound} the {gap} the buttons of course .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: And the {vocalsound} the user interface sends uh the the different signals of the different buttons to the chip , and the chip uh sends it to the LED , and the LED sends it to the receiver . That's the that's the basic idea .
Project Manager: Yep .
Industrial Designer: Very basic .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Um well I have uh {vocalsound} uh {vocalsound} put it in a in in in a {vocalsound} a couple of basic steps .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Uh the remote uh is basically just waiting for a user to press a key . It does nothing until uh of course uh the key is pressed . The key {gap} a signal to a chip , uh the chip senses the connection . {vocalsound} uh and recognise the key . So {vocalsound} well you understand .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: The chip uh produces Morse code , um a specific code to indicate that specific button that is pressed , of course . And it uses transistors in the in the remote control to amplify and to send uh that signal again to the to the LED , which is the bulb , of course .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Now the LED produces an infrared beam and signals the , well it's uh very simple , and signals the uh signals to the sensor on the T_V_ set ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: and the T_V_ set uh also recognises the the {vocalsound} the signal , and performs the assigned task .
Project Manager: So it is also why we have to have a button that says uh I'm now busy with a D_V_D_ uh if we had done that . And a button for T_V_ . So {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Ah bu Yeah , but we don't . Uh we {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: No no , but {disfmarker} Yeah . Exactly . Uh well this is uh the basic uh function of a remote .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I've some couple of pictures here . It's a very basic one . And uh {gap} if we if we're going to add an uh an uh L_C_D_ screen to it , it uh won't look anything like this , but {disfmarker} This is very basic uh basically the the shape of um of a remote control . It has uh very little buttons and {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: But it it uh it's it's quite um {disfmarker} Yeah , you can easily recognise the buttons . They're uh far enough apart and an anything . It's not very um uh not very high-tech uh
User Interface: High tech . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: indeed , and it's not very user-friendly . Uh if you look at the shape , it's uh just a simple long box uh shape . So we have to uh change a little bit uh to that , uh so that uh it becomes more user-friendly , and that uh problems like uh R_S_I_ and uh those kinds of thing don't don't oc don't occur .
Marketing: Right . Can I say something ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Um I have a table here about uh the l the relevance of the buttons . Uh the power button is used very much , channel selection , volume and teletext . Well teletext is not an option , so that uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: But I think it's very important to make um the power , channel and volume buttons uh near to the thumb , so you can't have R_S_I_ uh consequences .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , because they are the the most important buttons and you can immediately {disfmarker}
Marketing: Right . Make them big , make them easy to uh to press .
Project Manager: Well but but {vocalsound}
User Interface: You can also like {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: You don't have to look and and search for them .
Project Manager: if you have um the most used buttons all in one place , and you keep making the same um well moves .
Marketing: Right .
User Interface: Yeah , I was thinking you can {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , right . Right .
Project Manager: But if y if you would put it at a different place , then you have to move your hands ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: and that's on of the things about R_S_I_ .
User Interface: Are some of the the the um {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , that's right . That's right . That's right .
Industrial Designer: Well you you can't have any uh every button {vocalsound} under the thumb , of course .
Marketing: We
Project Manager: No but the most important buttons m maybe you can just put them a bit apart so you would reject R_ R_S_I_ R_S_I_ .
Marketing: But {disfmarker} Yeah . That's very important . And {disfmarker}
User Interface: Maybe you can make , for for channel changing , two little buttons on the side of the remote , so you can just do like this . Like some uh little uh Gameboy things or some
Project Manager: Yes I've saw that on m on mi mobile telephones they also have uh those buttons .
Marketing: But is that is that useable ?
User Interface: Hmm ?
Marketing: Do people , uh when they pick up a remote , know that they have to do that ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Well {disfmarker}
Marketing: It's a f it's a new feature ,
Project Manager: Well it it's {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: you can make make a double feature l like a button on the top and under it .
User Interface: Yeah alright , but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well also i if someone puts {vocalsound} picks up his uh remote {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah , but if you s say them up and down , they they'll understand it {gap} , I think .
Project Manager: Yeah . If someone puts up i uh picks up his remote , and he picks up it he he touches the side then he's a already on the next channel .
User Interface: Eighty per cent would .
Industrial Designer: Well , {gap} .
Marketing: Yeah , he feels it immediately .
Project Manager: That's very irritating , I think .
User Interface: Yeah that's true .
Marketing: Yeah , that's right . Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah but {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Right , continue .
Industrial Designer: But in e in any case the the basic function should be uh indeed , and as you say at the thumb .
Marketing: Sorry . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I think that's a good idea , and uh and that the less important uh buttons , like the the the different channels , uh the numbers one two three four five as well , should be uh yeah well not in reach , because uh they don't use it uh all the time . Well it's uh pretty pretty {vocalsound} basically uh as you said .
Project Manager: Yep .
Industrial Designer: And I have some pictures of the inside workings , but uh I don't want to get too technical ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: because uh that's not uh very uh useful for you .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} That's your part of the job . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , that's right .
Industrial Designer: So yeah {gap} exactly {gap} this is uh how it uh looks from the inside .
Project Manager: Yep .
Industrial Designer: And uh well that's about it I think . Oh yeah , I still have this . Oh I had to delete this , but I had to make a schematic uh of the of the new {disfmarker}
Marketing: Alright .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .
Industrial Designer: But I had too too little time ,
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: but uh don't uh don't look at it please .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Well we understand .
Industrial Designer: I I think it's it's clear uh how it works .
Marketing: Alright .
Project Manager: We understand .
Marketing: Yeah , it's clear .
Project Manager: Oh right , no .
Industrial Designer: Alright . That's the most important thing .
Project Manager: Nice . Then uh Mike can uh give the third presentation .
Industrial Designer: Alright . Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: How late is did we start his presentation uh ? {gap}
Industrial Designer: Right .
Marketing: {vocalsound} I dunno . I think uh w About twenty minutes ago ?
Project Manager: Wha Yeah .
Marketing: Losing time losing time . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Well then we have still the time , so {disfmarker} {vocalsound} But we do have to come to a decision , right later on .
Marketing: Yeah right . So {disfmarker}
Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} {gap}
User Interface: Well I thought um everybody on the website {vocalsound} uh would see the same thing , but obviously {vocalsound} that's not the case .
Marketing: I don't think so .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , uh there are different uh {disfmarker} We have all have different home pages , with different links .
Project Manager: Oh yeah ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah right .
Project Manager: Uh ?
User Interface: For instance you couldn't see this . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay , yeah well .
User Interface: Um {disfmarker} Yeah . Well I'm Mike {gap} , User Interface Designer .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: The the method ? Well {disfmarker} I used my own experience with remotes , took a good l look uh at the remotes on the corporate website , which are these two .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Um {disfmarker}
Marketing: These are already in use ?
User Interface: Yes , these are from from another uh manufacturer .
Marketing: Alright , okay .
User Interface: Um {disfmarker} This one is engineering-centred , so this one has the most functions and um things .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Um {disfmarker}
Marketing: Well {disfmarker}
Project Manager: I like user-centred .
Marketing: Yeah , me too .
User Interface: I like user-centr centred uh {vocalsound} uh also the best .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah . We also do that .
User Interface: Um {disfmarker} Well , I thought uh that we uh reduce the the option to control the D_V_D_ also , and teletext and that kind of stuff .
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: Uh so I thought we we we would use more or need more buttons than this one .
Marketing: But we have to reject that , because of the requirements ?
User Interface: But {disfmarker} Yes .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Th that's why this mm is not relevant any more I feel .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Alright .
User Interface: Um {disfmarker} I think this is about the maximum number of buttons uh we'll need .
Marketing: Yeah , right .
User Interface: {vocalsound} I um I kinda like the shape . {vocalsound} I think this is what we talked about . But {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {gap} You can't really see uh the differ from different sides .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: But I think uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: No I've {disfmarker} Well I showed it somewhere . Um {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Uh you can draw it if you {disfmarker} Yeah .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Oh yeah . I think we should go further with the idea of a removable front .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: So we can can uh yeah customise the {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well absolutely , but i th they all have to have something about um the recognition from our company . So we cannot just uh make someone w
User Interface: Mm ? {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound} It's a front . It's not the the whole remote that changes , of course .
Project Manager: No but that's th the side they look uh look at is the front .
User Interface: You can {disfmarker}
Marketing: But it {disfmarker}
Project Manager: So if y if you make a a front with just a a tiger on it , then uh our recognition is totally gone .
User Interface: Mm .
Marketing: Yeah , that's right
User Interface: Or you can you can can put the same symbol on on every remote .
Marketing: Yeah , that's a must .
User Interface: So l like Ericsson does {gap} every uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , we must .
Industrial Designer: We can put it on the on the back side .
Marketing: We must have that .
Project Manager: Yeah well and and {disfmarker}
User Interface: S something like this . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yes .
User Interface: It's recognisable .
Project Manager: 'Kay .
User Interface: Um {disfmarker}
Marketing: We can make a symbol of the company right here . And {vocalsound} if you put a front on it , there's a hole on the front . So the symbol's always on
User Interface: Yeah ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah , so that you don't replace the symbol , yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah yeah yeah .
User Interface: Yeah yeah . Something like that ,
Project Manager: Or the th the the lowest part of the remote isn't changed by the front .
User Interface: in the {disfmarker} Yeah .
Marketing: {disfmarker} Yeah . Yeah , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Those kind of things .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: But let's not focus on the front {gap} . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yes . Okay .
User Interface: Um {disfmarker} Well so uh uh like I said I thought we'd we'd use more function . If we we had to include more functions . But we don't . So um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Yeah . I think this is about the maximum number of buttons we need .
Marketing: Alright .
User Interface: Maybe some less . Like eject we don't need , and some other buttons we don't need . I think uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Mike , uh can you put uh that picture from me on the in the Word documents file ? In Map ?
User Interface: Yeah , I will . I think uh for the remote um uh less is more . {vocalsound} The less buttons the better the design . Um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: We should go with that concept I think .
Marketing: Yeah , I agree .
User Interface: I know .
Project Manager: Alright .
Marketing: I've I've got another point .
Project Manager: Yeah ?
Marketing: Um there are two target audi audiences , and we've uh chose for the younger one .
User Interface: Mm .
Marketing: Um , research has shown that um it's a high interested uh in features . They are high high interested in feature . But they are more critical . Fo Yeah , critical .
Industrial Designer: The younger uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: So {disfmarker} The younger audience .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: So we must um must design uh a control that really speaks to the people .
Project Manager: Well what if we um {disfmarker} I at I at home have a remote that has um the most familiar uh buttons on the top , and the bottom side of the front has a little clip ,
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: a f a little uh {disfmarker} You can click away and then you have f much more functions that most people don't use but s some do do .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm . I think uh the most functions uh underneath that uh {vocalsound} uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Clip aren't used much .
Project Manager: Well but because you say they their features are important , they want m um a lot ,
Industrial Designer: No um mm usually {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah right .
Industrial Designer: But {disfmarker}
Project Manager: but not {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah , but what kind of features ? Like L_C_D_ screens and voice recognition .
Industrial Designer: Yeah I think {vocalsound} m most {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah but {disfmarker} Yeah .
User Interface: But I've {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Most uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Here , look at these numbers . The newest features are , like I said , are uh L_C_D_ and uh speech uh control . Our audience , these people , are very like these uh features .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm . Uh .
Marketing: You see ? So we must build in something , or they will to uh go to the concurrent .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Competitors . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Our competitor . Yeah .
Marketing: The concurrent ? {vocalsound} Competitors , right .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} So , I do think we have to uh have some features .
Project Manager: Yeah . Well maybe w we could uh s
Marketing: Even though they cost a little more .
Project Manager: On um some uh calculators you have lo those little little L_C_D_ th that you can click on or something ,
Marketing: Right . Right .
Project Manager: or that you can click uh out uh of the remote . And if if that's gives you a little bit of sta status information .
Marketing: Like a ticker-tape .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Which programme you are l watching or something .
User Interface: Yeah , that's nice . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Those kind of things , uh because you also have those uh those program recognition for your V_ V_C_R_s . And uh well if y if your remote picks that up also , you they can display which programme you're currently watching .
Marketing: Yeah , right . Yeah right .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah . So it it just signals the the different uh sig uh the different symbols on the screen you have ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: uh because if you change to s channel two you have two on the screen and two on your on your um on your L_C_D_ screen . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: For example . It it could be such a little uh th that you can click in and out and you and you have it .
User Interface: Yeah , we should keep that simple too .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: It will {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: But should it uh really be uh clickable , uh {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Well maybe .
Marketing: No not clickable .
User Interface: No , it should be uh integrated .
Industrial Designer: or {vocalsound} or just integrate inside to try to make it d more trendy . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Nah , no no no .
User Interface: I think {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , just at at the top . So when you s {vocalsound} you sit like this you can can watch .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah ,
Marketing: I think it should be at the top .
User Interface: something like on um some radios in car . You {disfmarker} Where it's , yeah , walking to {disfmarker} Yeah . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah right . It's a ticker-tape idea .
Project Manager: R_D_S_s or something .
Industrial Designer: But that's of course uh a bit more uh expensive than uh the basic uh calculator design , with the scrolling text and {vocalsound} that kind of thing .
User Interface: Wa Yeah .
Project Manager: Well I think it's you got {disfmarker} It just means it's a script that's uh keeps it uh rolling ,
Marketing: Well it's just one script . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: and it's not uh {disfmarker} That's five minutes off uh implementing time I think uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , five minutes of ja ja for programming .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: So I don't think that's the issue .
Project Manager: No .
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Marketing: Alright , we go with the L_C_D_ screen ?
Project Manager: Uh well I think so , yes . Um {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah well we we we still need to know how much that will cost .
Marketing: 'Kay . Right , I don't know if I can find that , but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: We're g No but we're we'll have to look into that .
User Interface: Or maybe you will get that information uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Um we can use this board again , I think .
Marketing: Next time . Yeah right .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: Uh we can put some um decisions about um the controls we want , th the issue . {vocalsound} Where is my presentation ? {vocalsound} Uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , I understand what you're saying .
Project Manager: {gap} Uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: We should have a general idea of how it's gonna look .
Project Manager: Well {disfmarker} I mean we're all here now , I think . These I've already given you . So we have to decide on the different remote control functions . So we want to have a small L_C_D_ screen that's special .
Marketing: Right . At the top .
Industrial Designer: Shouldn't we start with the most important parts ?
Project Manager: Yes .
User Interface: At the top or at the bottom ?
Industrial Designer: The L_C_D_ screen alright {gap} but we should start with the power button ?
Marketing: I think the top is more uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah but {disfmarker}
Marketing: When you s How do you zap ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: You just sit in your chair ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Huh ?
User Interface: Yeah but with with the L_C_D_ screen on the top it gets a bit unnatural .
Marketing: With the remote ?
Project Manager: That thing is terrible .
User Interface: 'Cause most remotes have some space left at the bottom . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah but that's where your hand ball might be .
Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah , no Mm .
Marketing: Yeah , I dunno .
Industrial Designer: And then uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: We'll draw two , and then we'll see uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Maybe we should uh centralise the discussion here . {vocalsound} I dunno what uh you were talking about but {disfmarker}
Marketing: No {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {gap} we are busy with something {gap} .
Marketing: Um he thinks {disfmarker} Yeah , right . He thinks it's better to put the L_C_D_ at the bottom , and I think it's better at the top .
Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Uh-huh . Why do you think it's better at the bottom ?
User Interface: Uh well because most uh remotes have um some space left at the bottom , and that way you can keep the shape recognisable for everybody .
Marketing: But your {disfmarker}
User Interface: I c
Industrial Designer: But you just can put uh the the the the the whole interface a bit down , so that there's room for the for the interface .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Well I d I think that's that's ugly but {disfmarker}
Marketing: The the ticker {disfmarker} The L_C_D_ is like like small . {vocalsound} It's it's wide .
Industrial Designer: Uh-huh .
Marketing: It's not not high . But {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well I th I think Mike Mike has a point ,
User Interface: {vocalsound} I th
Industrial Designer: And and we can {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: because um when when uh when I use a remote I l I hate the buttons but buttons at the at the bottom .
User Interface: Yeah . Power button always {disfmarker} Yeah . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Bottom .
Project Manager: So and and I I like to use the ones on the top .
User Interface: Yeah , y you gotta zap like this or {vocalsound} you want to {disfmarker} Yeah .
Project Manager: So when I u when I have to have an L_C_D_ s scr window {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah right . But {disfmarker} We're making a remote with {vocalsound} with a few functions you know .
Industrial Designer: Well {vocalsound} that's {vocalsound} a bit exaggerated . Well , I agree with you {gap} . It's it's also more recognisable .
Marketing: We
Industrial Designer: It looks more like a calculator to people , if you have the l the the the thing on top . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yes but we we we we don't want that .
User Interface: Yeah you don't want {disfmarker}
Project Manager: We don't want them to look like a calculator .
User Interface: You want uh {disfmarker} Yeah it it it must be a remote .
Project Manager: We want to look it like our original but familiar {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah w well ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: but uh you don't have to throw uh um important aspe {vocalsound} important aspect like familiarity uh completely away ,
Marketing: High-tech {gap} . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yea
Industrial Designer: uh because {vocalsound} I think it's uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Maybe a bic uh better uh white uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} We White ? {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I think it's still important to have it at the top ,
Marketing: Width .
Project Manager: Width . Uh format yeah format ? Line width ? Width ?
Industrial Designer: because it's uh it's more familiar that way .
Marketing: {gap} Th that's not a problem .
Project Manager: Yeah ?
Marketing: {vocalsound} When I draw here it
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {disfmarker} Oh . Huh ?
Project Manager: It's a bit off .
Marketing: Yeah , it's off .
Project Manager: Well . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} A little a little bit .
Marketing: {vocalsound} It {vocalsound} it needs to be calibrated again . Well {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well uh let's uh talk about that later uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Maybe you should another pen .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Maybe that's uh better . {gap} You e you only have one pen for that screen . Yeah .
Marketing: Where ?
Project Manager: It's special pen .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Alright , we have to make a decision now ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: because we don't have much time . Um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: No .
Marketing: I think we have uh a few functions , and we can put uh the L_C_D_ above it , and still have lots of room at the bottom , where you can put your hand .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . I I agree .
Project Manager: I think it should be at the button , bottom . Bottom . The L_C_D_ .
User Interface: At the bottom ?
Industrial Designer: Well I'm the {vocalsound} I I'm the designer , so um {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} In a few minutes {disfmarker}
Marketing: At the bot
User Interface: Oh yeah , oh yeah , I totally agree . Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: So {disfmarker} We are two uh V_S_ two . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Well but uh what what if we we first decide the different functions ,
User Interface: {vocalsound} He's the boss . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: and then look at the design .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Right . Great .
Industrial Designer: Uh we uh we were busy with that .
Project Manager: Because we have to decide this .
Industrial Designer: Uh yeah we should uh summon the the different uh aspects of the thing .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So , we have the power button .
Marketing: And moreover I think that you two should be uh come to consensus about the L_C_D_ s .
Project Manager: Yes .
Marketing: It's uh your it's your job . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well we have a power button .
Industrial Designer: Yeah of course . Uh it's uh . Yeah . W wh
User Interface: No it's our job .
Project Manager: Guys ?
User Interface: For all of us I think . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: While you have to agree , I can say {gap} it's like this and {vocalsound} you must agree . Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , right .
Project Manager: Guys ?
Marketing: Alright , let's keep it central .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} We have a power button , setting buttons , L_C_D_ window , the number buttons {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound} The ten numbers ? Yeah ?
Industrial Designer: Channel , yeah .
Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Volume ?
Industrial Designer: Volume control .
Project Manager: Yes .
Industrial Designer: Um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Uh the mute button .
Industrial Designer: Well let's look at your uh design . Uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: I h love that one .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Uh-huh .
User Interface: I think we we should use something like this um to um {disfmarker} The the channel up and channel down button ? {vocalsound} Yeah , in circle , you know ?
Project Manager: Yes . Yeah . Yeah yeah yeah . Well that's that's also design .
User Interface: And and a volume control also in it .
Project Manager: Yes . Um {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Right .
Industrial Designer: {gap} Yeah .
Project Manager: Well h ho
Industrial Designer: But th th on this remote th these controls are for something else , a D_V_D_ player or something . So {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yes . Yes . They are for some uh video uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yes , as I already said , we could drop some of these buttons . {vocalsound}
Marketing: You should put that uh power button , channel and volume should have the most uh importance .
User Interface: Yeah . I think these should be in one big circle in the middle .
Marketing: Yeah , but what he said about R_S_I_ was {vocalsound} t kinda true . When {gap} {vocalsound} when you uh put them all in the same place , the most used buttons , you're doing the same thing all the time ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: and that's just what R_S_I_'s all about . So it might be smarter to put them a little more away from each other .
Project Manager: Apart . So people have to move their hand . And they get less uh complaints of R_S_I_ .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , it's it's also not good to completely stay in one position constantly with one hand .
Project Manager: {gap} That's what I always do ,
Industrial Designer: Y {gap}
Project Manager: because all my i important buttons are the same place .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . It's good to move uh from time to time . Yeah .
Project Manager: Yes ?
User Interface: Yeah but people don't like it when their buttons are all over the place .
Marketing: Um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well not {disfmarker}
User Interface: They they need to be centred .
Industrial Designer: No but now y W would we have to choose a way in middle ?
Marketing: Frequency of uh button use .
Project Manager: Yes .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Um channels are uh most uh is most used within the hour . You can see .
Project Manager: Uh-huh .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Volume hardly .
Marketing: So the the {vocalsound} channel uh channel buttons should be far far apart , I think , up and down .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Mm-hmm .
User Interface: No I don't think .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Oh .
Project Manager: Up and down far apart from each other ?
Industrial Designer: Far apart ?
Marketing: {gap} {vocalsound} You thinking uh about R_S_I_ ?
User Interface: Yeah but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well not too much . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah but {disfmarker}
Marketing: Y look at uh look at the frequency .
User Interface: No . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Nei not too much , but {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound} The other the other two uh frustrations are far more important . So {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: I think you can have the two buttons of up and down close together , but you don't have uh have to have volume control and and zapping button close together .
Project Manager: Well for example the power button , you can {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
User Interface: Well they are used four times an hour , so {disfmarker}
Project Manager: If someone is constantly z zapping , it's not going to miss , that it that the power button is not right beside it . Because I have someone {disfmarker} But the buttons is way .
Marketing: Nei nei nei n I I totally agree .
Project Manager: So that one can be put away .
Marketing: But just {disfmarker} Yeah . Right . Yeah . I agree .
Project Manager: The power button can uh be uh uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Power bu button should be left at the top . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yes .
Marketing: And should and should be red .
Project Manager: Oh man ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: five minutes . {vocalsound} Yeah , well five minutes left .
Marketing: Right , just make some decisions .
Project Manager: Yep .
Marketing: The most important things we have to uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Um how are we going to do it with those numbers ?
Industrial Designer: C c can you make you make {disfmarker} We can use uh the drawing board now , I think . Uh it it doesn't work well but {disfmarker} But it it would be pretty pretty uh nice if we could just draw a simple thing .
Project Manager: Well I have it here . Yeah well that's going to take too too much time .
Marketing: I do think you have to keep you have to keep it central now .
Project Manager: Yes .
User Interface: Mm . Yeah .
Marketing: Just uh you decide that , you decide that ,
Industrial Designer: Mm . Alright .
Project Manager: Yes .
Marketing: and {vocalsound} ready .
Project Manager: Well the L_C_D_ . Um you are Industrial , you are User Interface . So I think it's going to go to Mike . But you will have to make consensus with {gap} .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
User Interface: Well consensus , um {disfmarker} We we can put it in the middle , so {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well it's a bit hard , because we are going to be uh individually .
Marketing: Nei . We're {disfmarker} No {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: That's a bit uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: We're deciding now , so {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yes .
Marketing: Top or bottom ?
Industrial Designer: Well uh yeah I I still think it's it's quite important though to uh to have it at the top , so
Project Manager: Yes it is .
Industrial Designer: {disfmarker} Yeah . You say familiarity isn't important but {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Well what if we're going to now decide about the functions , and the design comes into the next round ? Plus the d th the design round is still to come huh ?
Marketing: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah d Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , right . Okay .
Project Manager: Alright these functions .
User Interface: Alright .
Industrial Designer: As we we we we agreed , we do have a L_C_D_ .
Project Manager: The number f Well yes , that's alright .
Industrial Designer: So that's that's enough . Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , okay .
Project Manager: W the number function . Are we going to uh do it like uh on Mike's screen with uh one button that says I'm going to do a t two number digital ?
User Interface: No .
Project Manager: How do you want it to do then ?
User Interface: Well just when you push a one one and {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: There's one two three four five six six seven eight nine zero .
Project Manager: It it has to r recognise one as {vocalsound} there could still come more .
User Interface: No , {vocalsound} if you {disfmarker} On most T_V_s if you uh press two numbers shortly after each other , {vocalsound} d it {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Oh , like that . Um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yes .
Industrial Designer: They'd recognise it .
Project Manager: Alright so no button for that .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Th that's the most {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: That that's very easy . Yeah .
Marketing: No .
Project Manager: Okay uh anyone any uh oth other functionalities of our uh remote ?
Industrial Designer: I think these are the the most important functions .
Marketing: Do you still have the pictures over there ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , that's about it . You do need the uh multi Or did uh {disfmarker} No , like this one . You do need them ?
Project Manager: No , we'd uh just said we didn't uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , I know .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: But are we {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Alright , alright uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Now okay .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Um well because we can't integrate it with any other uh remotes , all those buttons on those pictures are uh irrelevant . So just for a television is that all we need ?
Marketing: Right . Yeah , it's most useable this way .
Industrial Designer: {gap} basic function .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Teletext is gone . So all those buttons that {vocalsound} ar are to do with teletext {disfmarker} Oh screen placing .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: We'll have uh those uh buttons about uh {disfmarker} And uh the two important ones we're l f forgetting .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh there's um {vocalsound} screen . You can make it wider and less wide .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: And the button that you can go to A_V_ for your video .
Marketing: Right .
Industrial Designer: Oh yeah .
Marketing: I do think we have to put that underneath a clip .
Project Manager: Those two ? But it's just two , and we make a clip ?
Industrial Designer: Uh just two just two under uh under uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Th that's a bit uh waste .
User Interface: We we can make {vocalsound} make uh a little row of like four buttons down here .
Project Manager: Yes .
Marketing: Yeah . Okay , right .
Project Manager: Or at the top . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I I think uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Your L_C_D_ screen is going to go . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Or at {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: But you you can put uh two or three buttons under uh another section .
User Interface: Yeah alright then .
Industrial Designer: Uh that's that's too complicated .
Project Manager: Yes .
Industrial Designer: You can just put it somewhere
Project Manager: Yeah
Industrial Designer: {disfmarker} They they aren't used much , not as much as those other , so you can put it somewhere {disfmarker}
User Interface: Oh , they can be small or round like buttons .
Industrial Designer: Yeah s bit smaller and s Well uh and and I think more at the bottom . Yeah . Yeah or at the top , yeah . What do you think uh those those buttons ?
Project Manager: Well I think they should in an in an isolated part of the remote .
Industrial Designer: Above or down ? And w where ? Well we design it later . We have it , and we design later where everything goes . Yeah .
Project Manager: Yes ? Yes . Yes . Well any other uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Well if you {vocalsound} you take those th If you {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
User Interface: Why go to video ?
Project Manager: Go to video , that's always on your remote control . To A_V_ uh to A_V_ A_V_ A_V_ .
Marketing: Yeah , but you can z you can zap t you can you can zap to the video channel from zero to uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: The the video channel uh ?
User Interface: That's just zero . Yeah .
Project Manager: Well l n no not at not at my remote .
Industrial Designer: No no not always . Ze yeah zero is a different channel than uh the the video channel .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah , but you can can zap down {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , but when you zap down zero you get to A_V_ .
Project Manager: Yes . I don't .
User Interface: Yes , I think th
Project Manager: I go to ninety-nine . {vocalsound}
User Interface: No , then you press ninety nine .
Marketing: Ah uh well whatever , {vocalsound} .
User Interface: I think go to video is an irrelevant button , but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Th that's the button uh {disfmarker} No .
Industrial Designer: But it's easy to go {disfmarker} {vocalsound} If you are at uh at channel uh fifty five and you want to uh go immediately to the video channel , you do you have to push a to to get below zero .
Project Manager: No you can ch push zero . Yeah . Yeah ,
Industrial Designer: It's more easy to get to uh where the specific uh video channel button .
Project Manager: I I think that one button is uh {disfmarker} I use it uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , but if we're choosing to uh incorporate these buttons , you have to have uh channel setting , if you wa if you have a new T_V_ . You have to set the channels .
Project Manager: Yeah ?
Marketing: Right all th these uh different buttons you have to {disfmarker}
Project Manager: These buttons , I don't have buttons for channel setting uh especially on my remote .
Industrial Designer: Yeah well uh d different screen settings a Yeah , sk {vocalsound}
Marketing: Ah , I do . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: It's it's incorporated with p m plus and down , uh those {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah well y you must have .
Industrial Designer: Yeah y you you you you have screen width .
User Interface: Yeah you yeah you have one one button from {vocalsound} s set frequency o or something ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: and then with plus and min minus you can uh adjust the uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Right . That's the only one we put uh in there .
Project Manager: So we still {gap} have one uh four ?
Marketing: For a screen uh fu uh channel setting .
Project Manager: Ch ch
Industrial Designer: Yeah to uh oh yeah of course to configure the programme the {disfmarker} Yeah .
Marketing: Programme , right .
Project Manager: Okay . Oh the Okay button ? {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Oh you always have in the centre an Okay button , for your menu .
User Interface: Yeah , alright .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Menu button .
Industrial Designer: You should {disfmarker} Yeah . I think that's important .
Project Manager: Channel , setting , menu .
Industrial Designer: Uh {disfmarker} {gap} And and the settings to change the brightness {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {gap} We have to go . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: the settings to change the brightness and the contrast .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Channel , yeah .
Project Manager: So um Save .
Marketing: {gap}
Industrial Designer: Chief ? Chief ?
Project Manager: Yes see .
Industrial Designer: Th the menu menu button is also important .
Project Manager: Yes I have put it in .
Industrial Designer: Then you can uh {disfmarker} Where ? {vocalsound} I don't see it .
Project Manager: Here .
Industrial Designer: Oh Menu , alright .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: I think things like uh contrast and brightness should be um in the menu , yeah .
Industrial Designer: In the menu . And you can uh then adjust it with the zapping buttons or something .
User Interface: Yeah , the {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Alright .
Industrial Designer: Because uh the zapping buttons aren't used then if you are in the menu .
User Interface: Or the volume or something like that .
Project Manager: Guys ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Or the volume , yeah .
Project Manager: We're going to uh go to our uh rooms , and uh we'll have to decide s things on our own I think . So {disfmarker}
User Interface: Your pen .
Marketing: Ah . Great .
Industrial Designer: Yes chief .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Alright .
Project Manager: Well see you uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: I thought we'd uh lunch uh right now , or not ?
Project Manager: W w we have lunchtime , by the way , now uh so uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah this is this is your thing .
User Interface: Yeah , lunch break .
Marketing: Ah . Okay . {gap}
Industrial Designer: I am hungry . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Lunch .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Get into my belly . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Ah . We didn't exactly do everything but {disfmarker} {vocalsound} So {disfmarker}
User Interface: {gap} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: See you later mate . {vocalsound}
Project Manager thought the beeping device was not easy to learn but Industrial Marketing thought the design expert should put more time on the ease of use design than a manual because they didn't have much time. While Project Manager mentioned that they were a design team, they could find some writers to make a manual point which could help maintain consistency with the older remote manual for the users.